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Water Break Weekly: DCI Tours, Title I Triumphs & BOA’s Big Birthday: Chuck Henson & Joe Brown Join the Sidelines
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Welcome to On A Water Break—your all-access pass to the marching arts! This week, Stephen is joined by Jackie Brown, Woody Woodward, and two special guests: legendary Chuck Henson (@chuckhenson1) of Bands of America and broadcaster, and Joe Brown, the powerhouse educator behind Elizabeth HS, NJ.
In this episode:
- 32 Count Life Stories from Chuck (“the big voice in the big stadium at the big band show!”) and Joe (“Joe Bama” of Title I band fame).
- Sideline Scoop:
Clark Atlanta University Mighty Marching Panthers performed at Truist Park’s MLB All-Star Weekend ✔️
Leander (TX) HS band mourns sophomore member Braxton Jarmon amid flooding; community launches fundraisers ✔️
Music for All names Dr. James Weaver as new CEO/President ✔️ Duck Brand+1Instagram+1
Nicholas Moore of South Iredell HS takes home a $15,000 Duck Brand “Stuck at Prom” scholarship for his Duck Tape tuxedo ✔️ Duck Brand+15Duck Brand+15Ferris State University+15 - Peak Group Travel Tip: Book early-bird fares now – peakgrouptravel.com & IG @peak.group.travel.
- 3…2…1—go! (60‑Second Tech Block): Joe breaks down the keys to Title I program success—“The difference is not in the kids’ passion, but in the support, resources, and structure schools provide.”
- Water We Doing: Stephen advocates for raising NJ drumline standards; Chuck pushes for greater exposure to elite performance; Joe & Woody challenge DCI’s tour model and explore regional access.
- Gush & Go: Woody celebrates opening-season wins; Joe cheers on alumni marching in Mandarins and Blue Devils; Chuck salutes BOA’s 50th anniversary; Stephen reveals he’s being sized for his Eagles Drumline championship ring.
Featured Guests:
- Chuck Henson (@chuckhenson1) – BOA announcer, host of Joining Us podcast
- Joe Brown – Elizabeth HS, NJ
Hosts:
- Stephen McCarrick (@stephenmccarrick)
- Jackie Brown (@spintronixguard)
- Woody Woodward (@remoking100)
News & Story Links:
• CAU at All-Star Game: [HBCU News article] ✔️
• Leander HS band story: [Facebook/KWTX coverage] ✔️
• Dr. James Weaver’s appointment: [Music for All release] ✔️
• Nicholas Moore’s scholarship: [Duck Brand winners page] & [PR Newswire coverage] ✔️ Yahoo Finance+14Duck Brand+14PR Newswire+14
Timestamps:
00:00 – Welcome & Host Introductions
02:00 – 32 Count Life Story: Chuck Henson
10:00 – 32 Count Life Story: Joe Brown
18:00 – Sideline Scoop: News
27:00 – Peak Group Travel Tip
28:00 – 60‑Second Tech Block: Title I Bands
34:00 – Water We Doing: DCI Access & Exposure
44:00 – Gush & Go: Wins, BOA, Drumline Ring
55:00 – Closing & CTAs
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Transcript
Introduction to 'On a Water Break': Weekly Themes
00:00:00
Speaker
Hey everyone, and welcome back to On a Water Break, the podcast where we talk about everything you and your friends are talking about at rehearsal on a water break. And this week we are all about BOA and Chuck Henson.
00:00:12
Speaker
But before we get there, we will figure out what made Woody say. You know, that's very exciting because a lot of times when you try to do that, the two don't mix very well. And they usually head towards something that a little less structured.
00:00:26
Speaker
And why Jackie said... add a baby or two to that. And then that's just what I've been doing the last couple of years. All this and more on this week's episode of on a water break. um Adolph the Met and go. Welcome to on a water break.
00:00:43
Speaker
Podcast where we talk everything. Everyone's bringing it. It's time for a water break.
New Hosts and Interaction Opportunities
00:00:55
Speaker
Hey, everyone, this is Stephen here, and we have a great episode lined up this week. We are going to meet Chuck Henson, who's been on the show before, I believe, and has a new podcast available where he talks about all things BOA.
00:01:08
Speaker
And we're going to meet another new host as well. But before we see who's on the sidelines this week, go ahead, subscribe on your favorite listening app, write us a review, share the show with a friend. If you have a question or a good topic you think that you want to hear us talk about, you can email us at onawaterbreakpodcast at gmail.com or find us on social media and DM us if you want to be on the show.
00:01:29
Speaker
but We've got a new form now, so you can fill that out if you want to be a guest. Check it out in the link on our bio. But who do we got on the sidelines this week?
Summer Highlights and Band Season Excitement
00:01:38
Speaker
First of all, we've got my old co-host, longtime partner, Jackie Brown.
00:01:44
Speaker
How you doing, Jackie? who are you How's your summer going? Man, this has been a very hectic summer for me. I've taken on like more clients than I probably should have for choreography.
00:01:56
Speaker
But I have been keeping up with DCI. Thanks to our wonderful DCI correspondents that I've been working with. And Boston, Boston, Boston. Oh, my oh man.
00:02:09
Speaker
You want to talk about bringing the boom? I'm excited. Yes. Their drum line is doing it. At least as of right now, they've got to get what's happening. I hope that this is their year.
00:02:20
Speaker
Not to wear all of my colors on my chest here or whatever. But a lot of us on the East Coast have been waiting a long time for Boston to get their first drum trophy out here. You know what, Steve?
00:02:32
Speaker
I watched about 20 seconds of it, and I cut it off because I didn't want to ruin the moment for when I see him live. I feel you. I do want to. I was like, that's money.
00:02:42
Speaker
People are like, you didn't even watch the whole show. I didn't need to. well This was like two weeks ago. I'm like, no, I don't want to do it because I don't want to lose the hype when I see it live.
00:02:53
Speaker
and um That's real, though. yeah That's how good you want to get. You want to get so good that people are like, wait, whoa, whoa, I can only take so much. Don't ruin it for me. you know
00:03:05
Speaker
Yeah, well, that's awesome. we have a little bit more time later to talk a little bit about some groups from this summer, but I'm excited. I'm a little bit like Woody myself. I've been really, really waiting for that first in-person show to come up to our area.
00:03:18
Speaker
But I could talk to you about DCA all day because I'm there every weekend. ah But yeah, Woody, I've been waiting to see you at Bushman. How are you doing?
00:03:29
Speaker
That was a good weekend, man. First off, as a former member, I was very proud to see that the show was finished that quick. was i That's crazy nowadays, right? Weekend Band is moving.
00:03:42
Speaker
It wasn't even like mid-July. Uh-huh. And that's just where you have to be to keep up. like that's where I would love to try to toot the bushwhacker's horn and say that we're the only group moving this fast, but that's just a lie.
00:03:54
Speaker
Every one of them in Weekend Band is going now. I thought that was awesome. And I dug the production. I hope things go well for the drum corps. Yeah. Yeah. I've been busy, you know, technically the band season has started and, uh, getting a band off the ground and all that kind of stuff. But it was a first for, uh, my program that I took over. ah they're going to the Glassboro show.
00:04:20
Speaker
Oh, cool. Nice. And, you know, I have like, uh, 50 kids in the band, but we got 80 tickets going. Whoa, wait, what? I know. I'm like, whoa.
00:04:33
Speaker
Well, we have a kid. We have a kid marching in the Raiders. So his family's gone. That was like 12 tickets. And it just, you know, after talking to the band parents and all, you know, hey, this is the place where you want to see why our staff is so driven.
00:04:55
Speaker
And they're excited to see what it's all about. So I'm about to introduce a whole bunch of new people to the activity. Gotta love that, right? That is really cool, man. that's ah That
Introducing Joe Brown: New Host Background
00:05:06
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is what it's all about. I feel like that's how you make a band person.
00:05:09
Speaker
Yes. Is that type of moment right there. and We have a new host that we need to introduce to all of our listeners as well. So without any further ado, and Joe Brown. Welcome to the podcast, Joe.
00:05:22
Speaker
Thank you. Thank you. Nice to see you guys. Yeah, nice to meet you, man. So I understand you and Woody are friends? Yes. So we, you know, we talked together at Raiders for what, two, three years you were there? Yeah, about two or three years, but see, lighten up on that friends thing.
00:05:39
Speaker
just Acquaintances, you and Woody are acquaintances. the oneock and then And then we judged together. yeah we also judged together. And then, you know, kind of stole him to help me with my marching band. So, you know.
00:05:53
Speaker
I can't, he can he can't escape me. So. yeah Well, we're happy to have you on the call, man. Thank you. Why don't we do a 32 count life story with you as well? That way we know, you know, Woody, but let's learn the rest of the story here.
00:06:06
Speaker
All right. Get in the club, bro. All right. but all I'll try to make you proud, Woody. I'll try to make you
Chuck Henson's BOA Journey and New Podcast
00:06:14
Speaker
All right. We got eight and in off the map.
00:06:19
Speaker
All right, so my name is Joe. My nickname is Joe Obama. That's a long story of how I got there. I'm originally from New Orleans, Connecticut. graduated from Browningville High School. of And I've basically been doing marching bands throughout the Connecticut Hurricanes. So I did Hurricanes from 2000 to 2010.
00:06:39
Speaker
I did Hurricanes with your buddy, Steven. You probably know Jim Dugan, and you also probably know Jamie Thompson. So they were both designers and the staff there. So, yeah, so very well aware of them.
00:06:52
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that that the The Met stopped, so i'll just keep talking. so So I've been in Jersey. I live in New Jersey now. I've been teaching several marching bands for quite a long time. I've also been judging for quite a long time.
00:07:07
Speaker
I've actually slowed down into judging a lot more this year. And in fact, I'm not judging anymore. I'm concentrating my marching band. I'm currently ah the program coordinator for Elizabeth High School marching band. Class 5 open marching band in New Jersey. Highly competitive, really great band. This is my second year doing design, fourth year being with the band.
00:07:27
Speaker
But as said, taught drum corps. taught Sunrisers. I've taught Jersey Sir, and I've taught Raiders. So, yeah, so I've been around a block a little bit. Yeah, you've been around. Yeah.
00:07:38
Speaker
Nice. Well, i've got I know a lot of people up there. What was that, Woody? It's almost like he lives down here with us, huh?
00:07:49
Speaker
Where are you at? Can you remind me? I'm in Jersey City. So I'm... Oh, okay. Yeah. Knock that down here with us, Woody. I don't know that I'd say that. No. i it all It's almost like... Almost like... Yeah.
00:08:00
Speaker
It's my first time not being on tour in I don't know how long. Because I've been on tour with DCI forever. So it's my first summer. Oh, man. Not including pandemic. So it feels very, very weird to be home right now.
00:08:13
Speaker
Like, I should be in Texas right isn it like scale weirdop so be in Texas. Yeah. It's so strange. I don't know how to feel right now. It's like, I wake up and I'm like, I'm actually in a bed and not in the air mattress. And I'm not in a room with like 30 other people.
00:08:26
Speaker
And like, it's just all these things like you weirdly take for granted that you're so used to. Now it's like, you want it to just be normal, but it's not, it doesn't feel right yet. So yeah, you're in the shower. You're like, where is that? baby or two, add a baby or two to that. And then that's what I've been doing the last couple of years.
00:08:44
Speaker
Yeah. Like, where is that doorless? Where did this kid come from? he lives in a place where he has to order Taylor ham versus pork roll.
00:08:56
Speaker
That's still something I still understand when New Jerseyans, right? Like, I know the story about Taylor ham and pork roll or whatever else. but if It's like the North Jersey, South Jersey thing. You guys find reasons to argue about everything.
00:09:09
Speaker
Remember, there is no central Jersey. There is no central Jersey. No central Jersey. No. Well, I agree with that. i don't even know where you draw the line. Princeton. And above there, I think you're in North Jersey.
00:09:21
Speaker
Look, it can be binary. well Things are right or wrong. There's no in between.
00:09:30
Speaker
All right. Well, ah we're real happy to have you on the show, man. And we'll get to hear a little bit more about either some hot takes you have about drum corps or maybe some other interesting stuff you want to share and teach us a little bit about later on in the call here.
00:09:43
Speaker
Well, also joining us on the sidelines this week, I mentioned it earlier, but we've got Chuck Henson with us. So Chuck, welcome to the show. Thanks, guys. Good to see you all again. It's nice to be back. Yeah, i'm excited to talk to you some more. I think a long time ago, i don't even know if we were doing 32 count life stories then. Do you remember?
00:10:00
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I don't think so. And we did it out of my old studio in St. Petersburg. I've since, I mean, that was years ago, right? At least three years ago. Yeah. Probably first year of the show. I think it was. And I was the one having all the technical difficulties.
00:10:12
Speaker
Yeah. we've ah We've come a long way, but as you see, the technical difficulties never escape us. um If there's a wire involved somewhere, I'm going to set up. That's for sure.
00:10:23
Speaker
Well, anyway, though, you've probably you may be familiar with the segment, but you'll get eight and off off the Met and then you'll get 32 counts at 60 standard American beats per minute to tell us everything about your life story from when you were born to today. And leave no hole, you know, fill it all in.
00:10:42
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All right. i you my best I'll do my best. All right. Eight and in off the Met. All right. Am I going now?
00:10:51
Speaker
All right. I was the big voice in the big stadium at the big band show. The end. The only year four counts. feel like there's a little more there. How did you get there, though? That's my question. Wait a minute. How did you get there? For all your viewers and your listeners, that's what they know. That's what they want to know. Anything else is going to be secondary, where I grew up and things like that. and It was a great run. 35 years. It was a great run at Bands of America.
00:11:18
Speaker
Wow. So you're the guy that everyone would hear over the speakers announcing all the shows. For the big chunk of time, I mean, it was just me for probably 20 of those 35 years.
00:11:29
Speaker
And there was a time when I was also tabulating and announcing in the early, early days when there was a list of cut-ups on staff. But now there are nine
Travel Tips and Performance Preparations
00:11:37
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announcers at Bands of America. All of them do a wonderful one. You guys probably all know Dan Potter.
00:11:42
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And John Pollard, Dan does a lot of DCI and he does a lot of BOA as well. He hosts several podcasts. He's a really, really wonderful. And and last year ah in the fall was his first time announcing Grand National Finals. After all the years he's been announcing, because I'm on the sideline now with my issues.
00:12:03
Speaker
Yeah, it was really... happy and sad, if I can say. I mean, obviously I would love to be there and be doing that, but if I can't do it, Dan's a man. He did a tremendous job.
00:12:14
Speaker
Well, that's great. I'm glad to hear that. So it's in good hands, we will have great announcement. And then you are carrying on a little bit of your run speaking into the microphone at the very least.
00:12:25
Speaker
Yeah, I'm doing what you guys do now. So I've done a lot when it comes to broadcast. I mean, I was a radio person for years. I did television in Tampa Bay for 10 years. And of course, 35 years behind them, I get bands of America. But I really thought that when i have several issues with my retinas, hate me.
00:12:43
Speaker
no And my vision is very, very poor. Even with the glasses, I can barely read what's on the computer in front of me. Even getting connected here was probably a a miracle on my part. But they called and they said, hey,
00:12:57
Speaker
Bands of America is celebrating its 50th anniversary this year, 50 years of Bands of America. And wow they asked me if I would host a series of podcast episodes.
00:13:08
Speaker
but We're roughly keeping them to about 30 minutes, but there's no real timetable on them. 25 episodes trying to chronicle 50 years of of bands of America excellence. and We, uh, the first one dropped last Thursday. The, uh, the podcast itself is called joining us as was our big phrase. When a band would start their program, we'd start with joining us from blah, blah, blah. Okay. So that's the name of the podcast. Uh, and you can find it any, anywhere you listen to podcasts. Uh, it's on the music for all podcast network.
00:13:35
Speaker
along with the other great podcasts that Music All puts together. But I was almost insistent that the first guest would be Dr. Tim Lautzenheiser. And Tim graciously agreed. And he and I had the best conversation, you guys. We had the best conversation.
00:13:51
Speaker
The reason I needed Tim in that first slot is because he was going to make it look easy for me. quite frankly. You know, he speaks for a living. He's in front of kids all the time. He's in front of parents all the time. When you listen to I don't know if any of you have already, but when you listen to it, the wealth of knowledge that that man has, you know, he was the third executive director at ah at Bands of America, then marching Bands of America.
00:14:12
Speaker
when the event was held in Whitewater. But he was there at the beginning. He was the assistant to Larry McCormick at McCormick's before all of that started. And to hear his story, and then after him, we do Greg Bim this week.
00:14:26
Speaker
The week after that is Mike Davis, who was at UW-Whitewater. um So far, we've already recorded with Bill Galvin and his son, Sean. Bill, a band director in Pennsylvania. Sean, a professional musician with the Pittsburgh Symphony.
00:14:37
Speaker
And both of them through the program and two generations of people through the program. It's been miraculous sort of journey. We're only four episodes. I've only recorded four of them. One has dropped. I think you're going to really, really love it. But can you imagine the pressure, guys? I mean, I've been given nothing other than, hey, let's put on a show.
00:14:57
Speaker
And I'm responsible for annotating history. for 50 years of an organization that has meant everything to me. I mean, I was there for 35 behind the mic.
00:15:09
Speaker
And you think you know everything? You don't know everything. You don't know anything. Surely now, if anything, you were just training for 35 years and now it's your real time to shine. You have to chronicle the whole history. I mean, imagine, I mean, there's hundreds of thousands of people that have gone through the ranks, hundreds of thousands of people, students and teachers and directors and parents and fans and administrators and folks that work there and folks that drive the buses. And I mean, and how do you possibly get all of that into 25 episodes? I don't know, but I'm going to, going to do my best.
00:15:39
Speaker
And, uh, there's a couple of things that folks can do. And I hope you guys can help me with this. Um, if you go to, uh, music for all.org slash podcast, you'll find the link to the joining us podcast there, but there's also a speak pipe link where you can record your own BOA story.
00:15:56
Speaker
That way I can include you in the process. And we're taking clips of people who've recorded the most wonderful wonderful stories from their time associated with Bands of America or as a student or someone who came to the show or as a director or a volunteer who've said, this is my BOA story or simply just to say, happy birthday Bands of America.
00:16:15
Speaker
And if anyone wants to be a part of that, everyone can be a part of that. That way no one gets left out in this process because that's my biggest concern. As you can imagine, 25 episodes, 50 years to cover.
00:16:27
Speaker
I don't want anyone to be angry with me because they didn't end up on the show, but I think you're going to love it. Really, that's the best thing I can say. After the ones we've done so far, to me, it feels very comfortable now, and and and I hope you guys will enjoy it.
00:16:41
Speaker
Yeah. Well, we definitely should check it out. Can you remind everyone that link so that they could go and visit the site? It's musicforall.org slash podcasts. And they do several. There's several educational podcasts there. Dan Potter's Break Ranks is on there. And now our newest one called Joining Us.
00:16:58
Speaker
is on there as well. And again, episode number one, uh, dropped down last Thursday. You're not behind. It's still time to keep up. Uh, and it features Dr. Tim Lonsenheiser, who is a dear friend to everybody attached to music education.
00:17:09
Speaker
Excellent. Well, everyone should go check it out. I definitely want to go check out that first episode. It sounds like a really great conversation. It was so fun. We laughed and laughed and laughed. And Tim's insight into music education is, is something everyone should know.
00:17:24
Speaker
He's brilliant. Great. I want to share a little bit with everyone, some awesome episodes that we just recorded recently, some bonus things we got going on. I got to do a fun interview with Neil from the Savannah Bananas. He's a drummer for their entertainment band in the Savannah Bananas.
00:17:43
Speaker
So I, from all my Eagles Drumline stuff, love hearing and all and figuring out what this whole different like world of drumming and just like marching arts in the regular world society, what it look like out there.
00:17:58
Speaker
Neil has a lot of energy and a lot of interesting stories. And if you like the Savannah Bananas, then like this is the perfect like ah Venn diagram for you. And you should go. This episode was made for you. should go watch it.
00:18:11
Speaker
But then our DCI correspondents are also posting fabulous videos from tour. I'm sure if you're listening to this show there, you must like DCI. There's no way you like this show and you don't like drum core. That wouldn't even make any sense. So you should probably check out all that content.
00:18:26
Speaker
Or maybe you're just a hater and you just listened to our show and then you're like drum core, the old days. yeah you're Why can't it be like that anymore? yeah yeah You know, maybe those guys can hang out. They should ignore that wonderful content from our DCI correspondents because of how much they hate DCI.
00:18:46
Speaker
But if you like drum corps, like most of the rest of us, we have good content for you coming from all across the tour this summer. And our recent live episode was a blast too. you think there's enough tech problems on the ah pre-recorded episode, you should check us out on a live stream at 1 p.m. on typically the first Monday of the month.
00:19:06
Speaker
Usually won't see us at 1pm because we're dealing with tech problems. But you keep on the stream there, you'll see probably in a couple minutes. We do our best.
00:19:18
Speaker
And we're there and it's great because we can listen to, we can ah take questions and stuff in the comments and ah interact with everyone. It's a lot of fun. But at this point, I got to get back on the field. Joe's got a lot of experience out there, and I really need to figure out how I'm going to clean my baseline this summer. So Joe's going to get us started, and we'll be back with you after a quick commercial break.
00:19:50
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00:21:11
Speaker
All right. Why we see what's happening in the news this week?
Community Tributes and Leadership Changes
00:21:27
Speaker
All right. Joe, looks like you've got the first story here. Want to get started? So it looks like for this past All-Star game, looks like the Clark Atlanta University Mighty Marching Panthers, an essence dance line perform at the pregame show that's pretty exciting i've gotten a chance to do that for yankees for the yankee uh uh playoffs when i was in oh nice very very very exciting right so like can you imagine knowing that you're in the same building with like people like uh three dupree or ludu chris right that's exciting right actually that's a good point man because when i'm doing eagles drumline i'm always
00:22:05
Speaker
peeking around the peripherals trying to see what player who's that around the corner and if you're doing it at the mlb all-star game then there's probably at least one or two good players around that you might be able to catch a little glint at right uh-huh i remember doing it for 97 98 99 2000 world series and You know, people know George Steinbrenner. He's very superstitious. So we always had the March man come back and perform, march in tinker tape parade. So I know exactly how they were feeling being on that field during that big time where it's like, what in the world's happening? You're starting to play.
00:22:41
Speaker
It takes them 10 seconds for the sound to bounce back. It's just all the emotions that are happening all at once. So it had to be exciting for everybody there. Well, that's awesome. There's nothing worse than being in a baseball stadium.
00:22:53
Speaker
Nothing. Nothing worse. The sound acoustics are horrible. We saw videos and you would see the color guard spinning and it's not matching up at all to what we're hearing or anything else. The sound is still going and the instruments are down and it's not even close.
00:23:13
Speaker
It's still great. The video is terrible, but everything else is great. Yeah, it's a blur while you're doing it, but then you go back and check it out. You're like, oof. But, well, that's awesome.
00:23:24
Speaker
I definitely hope that there are more opportunities like that for more marching bands. To just get to go out there and do something fun in public. Not like, I love that we do competitions for band people, but I think it's way cooler when band gets out into the rest of the world. It has a little breakout moment.
00:23:44
Speaker
I feel like there's been a lot of like band and like sporting event crossovers more so in the recent years than there ever has been. mean, I know that it's always been a little bit of a thing, but like, it's just been really, really prevalent. I feel like in the last few years and it just keeps growing. So I keep, I hope it keeps on doing that.
00:24:03
Speaker
Yeah. There's been more and more of it. So I'm with you. I hope we see more and I hope more people figure out ways that they can even do a little independent things um on their own. But all right, I'll take the a next story here.
00:24:17
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Next story is unfortunately a very sad one, really tragic story. um But down in a Leander in Texas, which I believe ah Cindy is probably from around that area.
00:24:30
Speaker
But ah down in Leander, one of the members of the high school marching band was one of the students or individuals that did pass away in the flooding. oh Yeah, it was shared by the Leander School District that they're absolutely heartbroken by the loss, and the band shared the news as well. So condolences to the Leander School District and to their marching band for a tragic loss.
00:24:58
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um So not to drag down the the more fun vibe we had, but we thought it was... You handled it very well, Steve. Good to mention. That's all right. Good man. Good man.
00:25:09
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Good loss. All right. um Well, let's see. I think Chuck, you have our next news story here. Do you want to take the next one? I can read you. I mean, you guys told me about it, that Bands of America had hired a new executive director. I knew there was a search ongoing.
00:25:26
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ah But the last I had heard, there had not been an announcement. But you saw the announcement, right? ah Yeah. So it looks like James Weaver is named the next CEO. This is Dr. James Weaver, who was already with an organization that did music and sports nationally out of Indiana.
00:25:44
Speaker
i' I initially thought it was my dear friend, Jamie Weaver, who's also a band director out of Texas, who had been a great selection as well. But congratulations to Dr. James Weaver. He's the new executive director at Music for All. He's got a big job ahead of him.
00:25:57
Speaker
Yeah. You know, hopefully maybe he's got some very interesting ideas. i think around this time last year, maybe two years ago, DCI changed its CEO. And I think that earnestly, i it seems like they've done more since he's come into the fold.
00:26:15
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Because that gentleman came from swimming, right? He was like an executive director of a swimming, national swimming organization. And everyone was worried about how that would translate yeah to to DCI. But, you know, good leadership is good leadership. And so if you've got the right person in that role, anything's possible.
00:26:31
Speaker
Yeah, I am definitely thinking specifically of Big Loud and Live being back, at least. It seems like maybe they're making efforts to bring the sport towards just more popular or more places you can watch it from at the very least.
00:26:47
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But yeah, maybe Joe, later on in the call here, I'd love to hear maybe some of your thoughts and things that they could still do better or things that are different now that maybe aren't for the best. Be curious that. um But before we do that, we have one more news story. Jackie, you want to share?
00:27:01
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So it's, I don't remember if it's been like one episode or two episodes ago. Nicholas Moore was on our ah on our podcast because he entered the duct tape stuck at prom scholarship contest.
00:27:18
Speaker
And I just found out today, he won in the tux category. He was the grand prize winner. So thank you to everybody who voted. I'm so excited because I i was thinking, oh this little scholarship contest. Because when I was in school, I think the grand prize was like,
00:27:36
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$1,000 or $2,000 or something like that
00:27:41
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Nice. There we have it. We're ringing in the big bucks. So congratulations. they yeah and Next week, he is going to be on our show. So guys, make sure you watch for that. He, I just talked to his mom and he's going to be back and we're going to have an awesome episode with him. And yeah, he can tell you all about how excited he is because this is, but I mean, this is huge, you know, marching band person winning this big scholarship contest like this. And it's so visible. So.
00:28:11
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Yeah. Congrats. Yeah. It's for anyone that maybe didn't get to catch that episode. He made it like a marching band uniform in the style of a tux still basically out of duct tape, but it's like very detailed and yeah, he ended up winning the contest. So huge congrats to Nick Moore. That's really cool. We got pictures on our social media too.
00:28:35
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00:30:59
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I've only finally recently learned to wait for that. I always would start talking and then Ricardo would just yell over me. and I let him be polite and not rude this time on the call.
Title I Schools: Challenges and Support Needs
00:31:10
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um Well, everyone, it's time for the 60 second tech block. It's a segment where one of our hosts or guest clinicians is put on the spot to deliver a nonstop 60 second tech session on a topic that needs some serious attention after the last one that the run that we just had.
00:31:27
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Our special tech this week, they've come prepared with three topics that they think they could prepare for a full 60 second straight. No hesitation or pauses, just pure technical gold. And this week looks like we're going to throw it to Joe, who's got three different topics for us. Joe, what are the three different things that we could pick from today?
00:31:46
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So the three different topics would be one would be, you know, what's it like being a new designer or program coordinator? Um, some the trials and tribulations of that. Uh, a second one is why some small bands are having really difficult tea of china to try and grow.
00:32:03
Speaker
And then a third one is what's it like teaching within a title once what is a title one school? ah Can they compete with everybody else? Right. So, um, so, Okay, well, I think since Woody knows you so well, Woody should pick what you're going to do today.
00:32:19
Speaker
You know, I like that small band thing, but I think I'm going to go with the Title I. I think America needs to know what a Title I school is. A lot of people don't notice things. I think that'd be really cool to open that up to everyone.
00:32:32
Speaker
All right, well, here's what I'll do. I'll pull up a timer here on my phone, and I'll keep it here on my screen. But once I hit go, you can give us 60 seconds of straight knowledge about running a Title I program and how you think they can participate and really do well ah despite the challenges. And don't mess it up. You're representing Title one You'll probably have to stop me because can very easily go more than 60 seconds. Well, I think that we're going to go on after.
00:33:04
Speaker
Let's see. Give us the 60-second condensed version first. Yes. Give your best shot. yeah You ready? Yes. All right. Three, two, one, go. Okay. So Title I, for people that don't understand, um ty school districts are generally...
00:33:21
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mainly funded heavily, they are heavily subsidized because they tend to be low income areas. right So for example, in my state in Jersey, you would think of like Trenton, would think of Newark, new work you would think of you know those types of cities. So I've been lucky enough to teach at a couple of them. So right now I teach at a high school. which is a Title I school. I've also taught at Weehawken High School, which is also a Title I school. Drastically different programs, right? So you look at Weehawken, which on a 1A band, which has maybe 20, 30 people in it. And you go to Elizabeth, which has 120 people in it, right? And so what's the difference in that, right?
00:34:03
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It's how the schools themselves are using the funding and how they support the School of the Arts. So, um, you look at that 60 seconds. Don't tell us anything about how they use the funding and just kidding. Keep on going.
00:34:17
Speaker
So, you know, so we're joking. So for example, we hawking, um, they, you know, it's, they're not really supportive. You don't really have, um, a lot of, ah you know, they're like, oh, here's a couple, here's some money. Don't you already have uniforms?
00:34:32
Speaker
Right? Do you really need this? Do you really need to read? Like, you know, it's like, you're kind of begging for like the basics and stuff like that. But you go to a school like Elizabeth where you are heavily, heavily supported by the school district, right?
00:34:45
Speaker
And because, you know, the band, we're lucky that we're we do well. And so, you know, they like to see the noise. They love seeing the kids do well, right? And so they love seeing the kids, you know, doing things like that, right? So every chance they get to have the band go and, you know, perform for this or perform for that or go plus, right?
00:35:03
Speaker
but And, you know, you see them like just cheering on. So it's a very different of like Elizabeth and the support of the arts, right? And heavily supported which we're really lucky.
00:35:14
Speaker
And then we have, you know, Weehawken, which kids are great. And the difference of the kids being in Title versus non-Title one schools, there's no difference. They have same passion.
00:35:25
Speaker
They want to do well. They enjoy the activity. They love playing. There's no difference. Can they play? Yes. Right. But they just are, you know, because Title and they come from low income, they don't have some advantages of having like private tutors.
00:35:39
Speaker
right they don't have you know they can't you know a lot of them have to go home and babysit right their kids while the parents are working right so you know they have to go home babysit their kids they can't go to practice right they have to do this so there's a lot more challenges in those um you know i've also taught at fralway right which i believe it's hard to one school as well so you know but as i said the the quality of kids no different right and so it's a prime example of where money comes into stands and not just money of how the administration spends money.
00:36:10
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So. Boy, he's really excited about You say, Steve, he's going for two seconds blocked. Maybe 180 seconds, or I'm looking at the timer up here. It looks more like a four minute, four and a half minute long tax block.
00:36:25
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but more i will say I think it's interesting stuff. Yeah, go ahead, Woody. I will say something on that. I guess in Pennsylvania, they don't use a Title I thing. So when you do a group like in Philadelphia, you know, they run into those same kind of issues and you take a regular person like us out of the drum corps community and you place them into that situation and you're like, hey, where's John at?
00:36:52
Speaker
Well, he couldn't come today because, um, He had to babysit. And we just freak out. You know, I did a school in Delaware. I did a drum line for two years there.
00:37:03
Speaker
And, you know, my mom is working, so I got to go home. Like, right in the middle of the ensemble block. And, you know, that is a very interesting concept. but I took that thing.
00:37:14
Speaker
And on a side note. It's a huge cultural difference. Yes, it is. And we don't, you know, I have to say, Our community, we don't go very well out of our way to change our ways for something that drastically different. You're like, you in or out.
00:37:35
Speaker
I can't help you. You in or out.
Band Program Success Stories and Structure
00:37:38
Speaker
I mean, you know, that's just how we are. That's why we have the excellence that we have. And I think it's wonderful that someone like Joe's out there and he's bringing them into our world.
00:37:51
Speaker
You know, that's very exciting because a lot of times when you try to do that, the two don't mix very well and they usually head towards something a little less structured. So congratulations to you, man.
00:38:03
Speaker
Thank you. i mean, Woody, you saw, you were able to come see us at a rehearsal. You saw the production we put on, right? Like, it's not, you know, it's you would if you looked at it, it was it did not look like No, you would never guess that it was a special, and I shouldn't say special needs school, but a different approach to how we do the activity.
00:38:25
Speaker
They were in it 100 percent, 100 percent. Did you guys win last year or second or something like that? We won, what is it called? It's Yamaha Cup or whatever they call it now these days, right?
00:38:37
Speaker
um we We made it to... That's a USB. That's a USBN function, right? Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, so USBN. And then we made ah at the New Jersey BOA regional, we made it made it to finals. I think we're like sixth place, right? Which is one of our highest places we've had in year so. Which is no joke.
00:38:55
Speaker
For my first year of designing, I think we did pretty well. right so The kids worked their butts off. Those kids worked their butts off. right and you know We have amazing designers there writing design. you know Miguel writing the music.
00:39:07
Speaker
um you know We have Lewis Hellinger, who is very known in the guard world, writing our guard. you know, great people on the design, great kids, great parents, right? So it's, we have a package here, and so it's fun to be there.
00:39:21
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Nice. It kind of reminds me, like, my my high school, I don't know that we exactly had, like, the definition. It's like what he was saying. I was in Pennsylvania, so I don't know that the terminologies are all exactly the same.
00:39:33
Speaker
But I went to Upper Darby High School, and about half of the district, Sorry, Claire, I'm sorry. I didn't get the answer. Sorry. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, about well half the district is like essentially the farthest outcropping of Philly.
00:39:50
Speaker
And then the other half of the district is more suburban. ah So you actually end up with a lot of like the types of families that you're speaking about. One thing that I thought was interesting, like...
00:40:02
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with the dynamic there is sometimes in like a low income environment, some of the students, especially those that have been drumming their whole life, maybe drumming is either part of their family or part of like a church environment that they're in.
00:40:17
Speaker
They will have devoted a lot of time to it as well. Like a lot of the best members of my high school drum line were actually from the more low income side of the district.
00:40:28
Speaker
was just the way it worked out. What'd you say, Woody? what I find with that in my experience is that those kids, they want structure.
00:40:39
Speaker
Yes. They want structure, but our community in the drum corps world, we don't know how to introduce them so that they kick back. So the first couple of weeks, you're like, pick up your sneak. And they're like, no.
00:40:53
Speaker
And we're like, yes, no. And then we just turn them off. But if you stay with them, they Once they buy in, like you said, Steve, it's a great thing.
00:41:07
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Those kids from Philadelphia and where they come from is not a very good neighborhood. Not necessarily, yeah. But once they buy in, I always love it because I know my myself being from Philadelphia that it's a lifesaver.
00:41:24
Speaker
You've now introduced kids to something... that had they not had that experience with you, Steve, you know what? They wouldn't know so many things that are out there in life. I think that's why I appreciate what you're doing there too, Obama. Actually, I told you it was human.
00:41:38
Speaker
It was human story. All right. I'm going off. All right. Play the music. but What are we doing? All right. Well, yeah, we've got to get into it That was a great 60 second tech session, Joe. So I appreciate it. Great thing for us to talk about.
00:41:55
Speaker
Could probably talk about it more another time. But for now, let's get into these. are we doing?
00:42:07
Speaker
What are we doing? All right, great. This is one of my favorite parts of the show. We get to let loose a little bit, potentially a lot. It's your chance to rant about something in the marching arts that just doesn't make sense to you.
00:42:18
Speaker
So I think those that have seen the show before probably pretty familiar with it. I can kick one off to get us started this week so that Joe makes sense and you see how this all works. Same for you, Chuck.
00:42:28
Speaker
But I'd say, what are we doing to make our area better? um When it comes to drumline or or something like that, I think that a bottleneck that we found in New Jersey a lot of the time is just that at the end of the day, you compare it to areas that beat us, California, Ohio, that they just produce a higher number of a higher quality of high school student.
00:42:51
Speaker
And that's where it's like, okay, how can United fix that problem? It's hard. But recently, we ah ran a big drumline clinic over at Rowan University.
00:43:02
Speaker
And we flew out Roger Carter. which was so fun. The morning was like a choose your own adventure. So we had a bunch of different rooms the kids could pick from. They got to go wherever they felt they wanted to be, whether it was like an instrument specific or skill level specific. And then the afternoon, they literally got to like sit there and do Q&A with Raj and then like drum with him in the clinic. and That to me is like what we can do to actually get the area better. Because now I see a bunch of like 14-year-olds that might drum when they go home.
00:43:35
Speaker
Like now, hopefully that's the gear that I got turning on them in that day is that they all start to have more passion and drum more. But what do you guys think? What else can we do to try to to lift the floor in our areas?
00:43:52
Speaker
You know, if I could jump in for a second. Totally. I think the answer to that question is simply exposing your kids to higher levels of performance and higher levels of instruction. You know, we become like the people we associate with. And so when you take your group and you bring them to an event, I'll just use bands of America as an example.
00:44:08
Speaker
You mentioned how well you did at the regional, that, that experience was so paramount to the kids and they saw all those programs that were so much, uh, in the eyes of your kids, so much better than them.
00:44:20
Speaker
They were going to go back home and go, we want to be that. How do we do that? And I think by elevating the level of where you, uh, introduce your kids to is going to elevate their level of wanting to be ah better.
00:44:32
Speaker
I totally agree. That reminds me of just like going to WGI when I was in high school. It's like that is everything. It's very interesting you say that, Chuck, because with my new program, I took them to the Color Guard Regional and the Tom's River Regional.
00:44:49
Speaker
And I'm standing next to one of the students and she says to me, don't understand They can do it. Why can't we? And it has moved mountains that I could have never moved by myself without them seeing it.
00:45:06
Speaker
I have a fun story I could share from one of our podcast episodes. I was talking to Bill Galvin, who in Pennsylvania was the director at Trinity High School forever. And he said to me the first time he took his band to a BOA regional, they placed last.
00:45:20
Speaker
Out of the show. And at the end of that season, he put a little form out to his kids and said, yeah do we want to do this again? And overwhelmingly, his program was like, yes, we absolutely want to do that again. It was the greatest experience ever.
00:45:32
Speaker
And again, because they saw what they could be, and now they had energy and enthusiasm to be that. Well, then I think that sounds like exactly what all the schools nearby need to start doing.
00:45:44
Speaker
We're going to run our clinic each year, and I think that'll help South Jersey a lot, at least for our drummers. But, you know, just making the effort to get your school there, even if you don't think you're going to succeed competitively, that's the type of thing that will start to move the needle.
00:45:57
Speaker
Well, what got to do, Steve, with that is you've got to convince your Young and younger instructors, they tend to shy away from it because they're afraid to be that band that came in last when they don't realize it's OK, because after they compete, they sit in the stands and they say, oh, that's what you want me to do.
00:46:19
Speaker
Yeah. And they're putting so much emphasis on numbers and on competition. You're your own competition every single time. Right. And you, your group will probably do better at the end of the year. If you bring them to the BOA show earlier, they'll actually practice. Any event that's got that level of group at it. I mean, I brand BOA all the time because it's been my life, but you know,
00:46:40
Speaker
We become like the people we associate with plain and simple. and Now, I think that is fantastic advice here. Let's move on over to Joe here and see
Critiques and Suggestions for DCI and BOA
00:46:49
Speaker
what Joe's, what are we doing is, but everyone should probably take a little page out of Chuck's book there.
00:46:53
Speaker
What are we doing, Joe? What are we doing with how DCI operates with their tour schedule? Right. And why do I say that? um You know, We're losing more drum corps, right?
00:47:05
Speaker
Because of the cost it is to do it, right? And we have not changed our model of how we tour. We just like, oh, we just lost another drum corps. Oh, we lost drum corps, right? But how do we how do we grow drum corps?
00:47:18
Speaker
But, oh, we just lost drum corps, right? So what are we doing about changing that model, right? Do we go to more a regional model where, you know, you really stay in your region, compete, and then move out, right? Like, Boston went out to California, right?
00:47:31
Speaker
You know, that's I'm guaranteed that costs the kids more and more money to do, right? How many kids can afford that? Right. You know, went out with Jersey surf last year, we flew out to Texas, right? Cause we wanted to do the Texas tour. It's the first time we did it a while.
00:47:44
Speaker
So, you know, that costs more money for the kids. But when you do things like that, you start losing groups like, Woody remembers Spirit of New Jersey, Spirit of New York, like those type of groups that really tried to build up, you know, ah kids that, you know, would not normally know what drum corps is and introduce them to that. and then, you know, eventually they may move up to something else.
00:48:04
Speaker
Right. But we don't have that anymore because it's like it's there's very few competitions in certain areas. And it's very much like a say, okay I'm going to go march here. I'm going to spend, you know, you know, six, seven thousand dollars to go march here. Right.
00:48:17
Speaker
For the kids that can afford it. All right, so I think we're losing more people to the act that are just as passionate about it because has not Modified their schedule or done anything more to cater to more regional areas stuff like that So what are we doing about fixing that right like grow the activity not just talk about?
00:48:40
Speaker
You know what I've kind of wondered if over time, maybe it would make more sense, like, especially if more groups start to go and it's only really feasible for a couple of the actually profitable cores to stay doing this, maybe they should just all do the same show.
00:48:57
Speaker
Like maybe there should be a show every weekend and it'll be at a football stadium, hopefully an indoor one so that we can't be, ah but you know, weathered and sunned and heated out of the competition. But If then you would have all the big groups, would almost be like a concert or it'd be like a music festival of sorts instead of the shows being a little bit less of a major event to an extent to when they come around.
00:49:23
Speaker
Because it'll be like, oh, you have ED, but that's the only group that's really in that competition tier. Maybe you don't have another group until someone that's in the five through eight range. If it was, okay, you're going to go out to a show and you're going to see all of the eight nationally competing cores. And then maybe that there's the regional model for everyone else.
00:49:44
Speaker
I can imagine a world where something like that makes sense, but I agree. You can't do this forever. Yeah, probably not. It's like, I know us bands has done an amazing job this past year. They introduced this regional class, right. Where it starts helping the smaller bands to start growing things of the sort, but you even do like BOA, right. be away doesn't you know They try to do more cultivating. Right.
00:50:05
Speaker
But it's really aimed at like the Avon's, which are amazing. Right. So, but I would disagree with that.
00:50:13
Speaker
It's just, you know, it'd be great to see more, you know, seeing more drum corps and more marching bands and more groups pop up and being able to compete and start have a chance. I think that's a gift. Give them a chance.
00:50:25
Speaker
You know, ah I've always said that, you know, I hear that a lot, that Bands of America is only for the big bands, and it's not. And case in point is the year Jackson Academy made national finals with 35 kids and beat the largest band, Duncanville, Texas, to ever come to Grand Nationals.
00:50:42
Speaker
You don't have to be a rich band. You don't have to be a big band. You have to be a great band. You have to play your instruments, and that's a classroom thing. um Again, I think that comes from the staffs.
00:50:53
Speaker
They need to understand that concept you just said. you know ah But it's so intimidating when you see the divines of the world if And especially with the Bands of America, because there's so much there's so much excellence flowing through there.
00:51:10
Speaker
Right. I mean, you'll have state champions that don't make finals, you know, and and but when you have 100 groups that come to prelims, when you go to that arena with the if you're going to play with the big boys and I don't mean big boys in size, I mean, big boys in excellence, because it's always been about excellence.
00:51:27
Speaker
You know, then again, that's why you're in the building. Like Bill Galvin's story about placing last at a regional. And you guys have said that as well, exposing your children for that. All ships rise when the tide comes in. You know, we don't leave anyone behind. All ships rise when the tide comes in.
00:51:40
Speaker
No, it's funny. I told a high school program and they hadn't lost a show in like three years. And so we got the big stones. We're going to the BOA regional.
00:51:52
Speaker
I have the same story, by the way. They got beat by the smallest band at the show. They played better, I'm sure. you know It's a music sheet. It's plain and simple. It's a music sheet.
00:52:03
Speaker
It was a learning experience for everybody. staff you I did the same thing. so Years and years ago, I was teaching at George Rogers Clark High School and in ah Winchester, Kentucky. and We had just won like our fourth state title and took the band to Grand Nationals and got 34th in prelims. It was like...
00:52:18
Speaker
and it was like What? But then when you looked at all those other groups, you're like, yeah, I get it. They were better than us. You know, I mean, it's just it's it's it's humbling. and And with the right person in front of the band, with the right staff in front of the band, they can take those moments and turn them into the most amazing positives and learning experiences and stepping stones to the next level. Mm hmm.
00:52:42
Speaker
But not the parents. Parents can't take it. Parents are tougher. Parents are tougher. But again, i would put that on the staff. I would put that on the staff and on the directors to teach the parents. ah You know, i mean, we we had parent rehearsals when when I was teaching high schools.
00:52:57
Speaker
um know so So not only to teach them where to clap, because that was super important, but we would also to teach them how to behave. You know, it's just you don't bring a cowbell. Don't do this. You know, I mean, this you're representing us. You're in the stands. We're on the field, but we're all representing the school.
00:53:12
Speaker
And so, you know, when you're outwardly hostile or you yell something you shouldn't or something like that, it's it reflects on the program. Definitely, Joe. I think from what you were talking about, I think one of the biggest differences, at least here on the East Coast and new jersey in the tri-state area, Jersey, New York, Delaware, New York,
00:53:33
Speaker
especially Jersey. ha There was from Philadelphia all the way to New York, a drum corps in almost every single town.
00:53:44
Speaker
And there was so much local action. A group didn't have to go to DCI to have some place to compete. And it also wasn't limited to musicians.
00:53:57
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I can't tell you how many great players were just kids off the street that Like fantastic soprano players that just play above the staff just because the guy next to him, that's what he does.
00:54:11
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And now they probably don't do anything with the horn. And they were just guys off the street. You know, it's funny. I was talking to someone that if you were in a drum line when I first started marching before the cadets thing, they kind of brought the musician to it.
00:54:29
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musicianship to it but before then you would get guys they couldn't read and they would learn their drum book strictly by drum ease stickings and everything to jeni to jeni they would know there's a flam there's a paradiddle in there just because they know what it sounds like and so now don't kind of take those kids that for that's a big thing that's a lot of kids Right.
Bridging Gaps in the Drum Corps Community
00:54:57
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Well, hey, guys, I hate to cut this short, but we are going on and on and all on. We're going to have to get to these gush and goes at some point. Chuck, I wanted to check in and see.
00:55:07
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Do you have a what are we doing that you you want to make sure we hit before we move on? And just briefly, I think along that same line, I'm going to DCI this year and I haven't been in a very long time. And I'm like, what are we doing to bring the old guard up into the new with everybody else? Because I'm tired. I'm that age.
00:55:24
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I'm tired of hearing guys my age say it's not as good as it was when we played two valves or, you know, where's the high mark time? Where are the spats? where You know, I mean, it's just, there's gotta be a way for us to bring people forward to just enjoy this for what it is, not for what it was.
00:55:39
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Thank you. The spats. Wow. I was a scout, so that's what I hear all the time. where are your spats? Well, you should have went with the epaulette, too. Right?
00:55:51
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Exactly. Great job, everyone. Set your equipment down. du and go.
00:55:58
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All right. Well, we've got to keep gush and goes quick because this is a true gush and go. We are getting right back onto the field and getting back to rehearsals.
Hosts' Personal Highlights
00:56:05
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So let's keep them quick. But Woody, what do you want to gush and go on about first today?
00:56:11
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What do I want to gush and go about? i got so many things, Steve. But what I do want to gush and go about is a I talk about my group a lot. It's nice to be back in that position again.
00:56:26
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And We already know the opener. Oh, nice. Yes. yeah Yes. Yes. It's definitely early for that. girl And, you know, turning the program.
00:56:38
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That's my favorite thing to do. Turn programs around. I can wait. I'm bored now because there's no. there's My work here is done. Yeah.
00:56:49
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Yeah. That's cool, Dan. Yeah. my question go Nice. Well, Joe, what do you want to gush and go on about? will say I, well, I enjoy, ah still talk to a bunch of my kids that I've taught in or whatever, and they're out there marching mandarins and Beattie and stuff like that. Right.
00:57:08
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And I enjoy, like, I purposely not like you guys. I've not watched the show because I want to make sure I see it. They're telling me about the show and everything else. and Oh, seen clips. I'm like, no. Right.
00:57:19
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But I have kids all over the place and I'm dying to see them and dying to so go watch the show. And I'm so proud of them. And they're just excelling beyond anything I could have expected. They're excelling better than they're doing better than did.
00:57:31
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And it makes me happy to see that. Right. So I can't wait to see them. So that's my kind of my gush and go. Nice, man. Yeah, that is cool. Now that I've started to teach independent, like you do see that kids that start to run with the ball a little bit and it's like, nice. You get the idea.
00:57:46
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ah Chuck, what do you want to gush and go on about? Plain and simple. Happy birthday to bands of America. I can't believe it's been 50 years. fifty years Happy birthday to bands of America. Well, that's awesome. And let's, uh, let's make sure everybody, if you're listening this far in the show, then you gotta go check out, uh, Chuck's podcast and also make sure you submit your, uh, your contribution or your BOA story.
00:58:10
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ah Check the link earlier in the episode. It's probably going to be in the description too. Thank you. And then my gush and go for today. I'm excited. went to the ring store today because I had to get myself sized up for my Eagles drumline championship ring.
00:58:27
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Oh, you scared me there, Steve. You scared me there. Sized up for your ring. But I can respect the bird thing. I'm with you. No. Oh, I don't know where you thought I'm at. I'm not that mature yet for any other ring than a good old football championship ring. And I'm in the hunt for another one next year, but got myself sized up today. And in about a couple months, bass drumming will have brought me to a nice big rock right there.
00:58:57
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So... I look forward to getting that one. i will totally show it off on the show. um That's going to be a blast. Go birds. Go birds, baby. All right.
00:59:11
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Well, thank you all for a great rehearsal this week. Thank you to each of you for spending some time with us. Joe, thanks for coming on. Look forward to catching up with you another time on here soon. ah And Chuck, thanks for joining as well and telling us a bit more about BOA and just some of your perspectives on the activity.
00:59:28
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It was my pleasure. Thank you very much. Great. Yeah, absolutely. And then thanks to Woody and Jackie as well. If you've got a question or a good topic to talk about, you can email us at on a water break podcast at gmail.com, or you can find us on social media and DM us if you want to be on the show.
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