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Daily Arsenal - S1-E115 - The Beloved Arsenal XI
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After our fascinating, and frankly rather fun episode yesterday creating the most hated Arsenal XI, we take a slighly more friendly tone and create the ultimate Beloved Arsenal XI, celebrating all the players that Arsenal fans truly love!
Host : Josh Vince
Guests : Matt, Joshua Duncan, Jamie Patterson, Craig Matthews
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Introduction to the Daily Arsenal Podcast
00:00:01
Speaker
every club every day the global sports podcast network hello hello hello welcome to the daily arsenal podcast brought to you as part of the global sports podcast network it is tuesday and we are following up from our very popular most hated arsenal 11 with a little bit of a role reversal we felt a bit mean yesterday so we're coming in with the most beloved Arsenal 11 now. And I tell you what, it is a full house tonight. Joining me, Josh Vince, your host, we have Jamie Patterson, Matt, Craig Matthews, and Joshua Duncan. Gents, it is great to have you all with us. ah Craig, are you feeling ah are you feeling ready to give out some love rather than the hate we were sharing yesterday? so yeah Of course, definitely 100%. And what about you, Josh? Does it sit well with you?
00:00:57
Speaker
Um, yeah, I think it's one a bit more easier than yesterday's one. Um, you know, I think, I think there's more love arsenals than, than players than we hate. So hopefully, hopefully it'll still be fun as well. I'm sure it will, but I actually found this one in defense slightly harder. I'm not going to lie. Players that I love. Yeah. Um, Jamie, I think you listened to the podcast earlier today and I'm going to ask Matt the same question. Just because we didn't have you on yesterday, who is your most hated arsenal player?
00:01:26
Speaker
Oh gosh. yeah
00:01:31
Speaker
Oh my gosh. I can't think. I actually can't think. Jamie loves everyone. What about you Matt? Do you do you have room in your your very gentle soul and a very grounded man? Do you have room in your heart for hate?
00:01:50
Speaker
I'm afraid I'm a bit too civilized for this question. Do you know what? I respect that. I respect your honesty around it. I mean to be fair there's one name but like it's generic as Van Persie so you know you can have that one.
00:02:06
Speaker
yeah everyone else yeah Well, I mean, Adebayo 1 is the most hated amongst all of us, but Van Persie was very close in there. So let's turn it around. Let's make this nice. Let's make this about the most beloved Arsenal 11. And we're going to do the same as we did yesterday. We're going to go through the positions. We've got a vague 4-3-3 formation. We can mix it up if we
Debating the Most Beloved Arsenal Goalkeepers
00:02:28
Speaker
want. There's no mad pressure on the formation. But starting off, the goalkeeper. Now, Matt, you weren't in yesterday's episode, so we'll start with you. When you think about players who were loved by Arsenal,
00:02:39
Speaker
Which goal keepers stand out for you?
00:02:44
Speaker
difficult one. I think there's no one who stands out where you're like, wow, everyone adores you. But there's obviously, you know, the ones who are successful, people always appreciate the ones who come across. Well, I guess people always appreciate people really liked Ramsdale when when he was here. And in terms of taking away the footballing side of things, and obviously that's rather relevant. of I feel like he'd probably be the most loved.
00:03:11
Speaker
I want to say like the way he carried himself about the way almost as quite relatable. People like that. I think he's probably the one you've jumped to in terms of probably the one to say it's probably it's probably as layman or I guess right. But once again, it kind of comes down to success a lot of the time, doesn't it? Particularly in that position.
00:03:33
Speaker
Interestingly, Jens Lehmann was on Josh and Craig's list of yesterday for the most hated goalkeeper.
00:03:41
Speaker
know
00:03:44
Speaker
you know if if you looked at hated keepers very good like you've got about two options really it feels like yeah Well, you're making a good point. I have Ramsdale in my list. um Really? Yeah, mainly just because the fans loved him. And, you know, he was a personality and he was a force of personality. and Who did you have then, Josh? Because I've got one other.
00:04:05
Speaker
I've got David
Choosing the Most Beloved Right Back
00:04:06
Speaker
Seaman. I think that's a no brainer. I think I've even won a leading court double twice and Arsenal legend. I mean, I don't think he was good enough for us, but I'm pretty sure some Arsenal fans, a lot of Arsenal fans love him. So I think he's a shoo-in for me. Bit of a weirdo, innit?
00:04:30
Speaker
got nothing to do with for
00:04:34
Speaker
that's true yeah For some reason I equate him with like Michael Owen and sort of like skulls and that sort of that and sort of that level of strangeness that of like the daughter's toe sucking level of oddness amongst professional footballers, you know, but I mean,
00:04:51
Speaker
If we're gonna throw it out there, I think those are two good shouts. I think Aaron Ramsdale and David Seaman are very good shouts. Jamie and Craig, you nodded with Seaman, didn't both of you? I also had, to be honest, I had two keepers in my head and Ramsdale was there along with David Seaman as well. Okay. And what about you, Craig? Which way are you leaning? Dave Seaman. Seaman, a hiss then? I had man in there as well for what he did in the season. My Seaman got into it and won the double for he had a good as a backup keeper. He was a good backup keeper at the time. Mine as was, yeah. That's very true. I also had Chesney in there because he was a bit of a a bit a character. people kind I think people liked him as he got further in his career after he left Arsenal. We could appreciate him more once he'd gone. ah which And we realized just how crap everybody else was. OK, that's fine. um Defenders. let's Let's go right back. Let's let's say right back. Craig, have you got any suggestions there?
00:05:50
Speaker
I got two. Mm hmm. Backer, Sanya and Lee Dixon. Oh, okay. Excellent. who'd Who do you think sort of holds it for you then between those two? Sanya and Dixon. When it comes to the winning trophy, I think Dixon won more trophies than Simon. Simon won one trophy with what I was with FA Cup in 2014. I think it was. Yeah. But I'll stay for long. I think Simon wasn't
Discussing the Most Beloved Left Backs
00:06:14
Speaker
one of our best runners in a long, long time that we had consistent, hardly injured,
00:06:20
Speaker
but a lot of games for us and I would say maybe him just adding towards him a little bit. Yeah, what about you Jamie? Did you have any? Sanya being one of them but but I there was another name I could have said but then I was like I was then thinking you know what I'm not like I wasn't really too convinced because He started his career decently against Borussia Dortmund and then he had an okay career, but then I was like, I wouldn't have him in my team. I might have maybe said Hector Bellerin providing that he had, you know, yeah, there you go. Exactly my point. Exactly my point.
00:06:57
Speaker
if you Exactly. JD and Craig are are not in their head. like If you're listening to this and not watching it, at the moment I've got Jamie and my top left, Matt and my top right, and Josh and Craig, the bottom left and bottom right, and both of them next to each other in unison just shook their heads as soon as she said the word. That's why I was like... That's why I was really umming and auring because like he had a decent start to his season, but then it just kind of like it really, it just didn't really work out. And then I was like, yeah, there's no way I'm having him, but Bakari Sanya for me would be, yeah, someone I i would definitely have up there. Well, it seems to be leaning in
Debate on Beloved Center Backs
00:07:36
Speaker
the Sanya direction. I mean, I had Bella in down, but mainly because he's, you know, popular for his fashion above his football. Matt and Josh, do you agree with the Sanya shout or is there anyone else you'd want to argue?
00:07:49
Speaker
I'll let Matt lead this one. Yeah. You know what, I'm throwing a fun one out there. No, you know what was really funny, right? About this question in terms of love at all. Yes. It's either players who were either a bit of a meme or didn't play enough, but people have seen afterwards and they've carried themselves really well.
00:08:07
Speaker
or it's someone who's done a lot for the club. Yeah. So I think Bellerin when he first came through, everyone loved him. I think the way Bellerin carries himself off the pitch is brilliant. I think people love it. You know, what he's done with with the tree side of things in the forest and helping the sustainability side of things and obviously the fashion side of things is his own character and everything like that. Brilliant. But the big but his final season at the club, I unfortunately remember pretty sourly the way it was rated in the way people looked at him. Yeah.
00:08:36
Speaker
I think if you were to say now I think Bellerin would be right up there because as I say you almost gain reputation by not playing for the club so to speak so I'd say Bellerin is quite high up there and I've got a really funny shout right for the other one which is gonna be hilarious to hear right but I almost feel like he's really liked because he's just a bit of a meme. Can I guess who you're gonna say? Oh Jenkinson!
00:09:06
Speaker
Carl Jenkinson, Jenko! It's been so long since he played for us, that everyone almost just takes him as like, it's just funny wherever he's gone, like he's at Bromley now I think. Yeah he is. It's funny, like everyone just appreciates him. The second he plays,
00:09:24
Speaker
No one was a part of it. He's one of those players who's like quite appreciated, quite liked, just because ease of how he's done after. Just not playing for Arsenal, basically. I mean, by that
Highlighting Beloved Arsenal Midfielders
00:09:36
Speaker
metric, Rob Holding's going to be the centre-back.
00:09:44
Speaker
But i do i do think it's I do think it's a very funny shout out. But I thought you're going to go Ben White. I i forgot that Jenko existed. I'll be honest with you. I love a good edgy take. It's just good fun, isn't it? It is, yeah. I thought Matt was going to go for someone like Debuchi or something like that. I was waiting for him to pull the Debuchi card out. I think the the final or the answer then for this position is going to have to be Sakuri Banya.
00:10:11
Speaker
Zachary Vanya, I don't know. Zachary Vanya. Josh is still shocked here. Are you forgetting he went to city? Yeah, this is my thinking. He went to city. but by the way that that was yeah but That was what I was referring to, the city. But when he went to city, he was really finished anyway. He got the best part of it anyway. I was going to say that, yeah. That's true, but still went. Arsenal really captured. Still went.
00:10:39
Speaker
Arsenal captured his best years and then as soon as he went to City, it was like, it just, yeah, kind of just fizzled out. Over Ben White and and and Lee Dixon. Lee lee Dixon. i strong I just say, Lee Dixon, all my kids, I just say I'm one of them too, so you have to give me a lie there, man. It's Lee Dixon against J.D.'s good books. He's just trying to get J.D.'s good books at this rate. I just don't see how leading he does to get in there. I know he's a bit before our time a bit, but he's an awesome legend, man. He is a hero of the club. He is a true hero. Do you know what? I'm going to cast the votes, the final vote here.
00:11:20
Speaker
It's Jen, no, Lee Dixon. Lee Dixon. I'm going to give it to Josh and not just because he's got a cracking name. Right. We took a long time on the right back. ah Let's go left back. Jamie, who's your suggestion for the most beloved left back?
00:11:38
Speaker
ah Wow. Do you know what? I'm going to throw a name out while you think about it. I actually think in terms of beloved, Kieron Tierney might be quite high up there. Yeah. I think people really, really like him. I mean, when you think about the other left backs we've had, Kalazanac, Andre Santos. Gibbs was popular, but I think that people prefer Tierney to Gibbs personally. um what jo Josh, we'll go to you on this one now because you you had your your last bit was on the right back. What what did you make of left backs?
00:12:11
Speaker
i I think I'm edging between Montreal. Ooh, Nacho! Nacho! Nacho! He was love. He was love. You know, again, I never thought he was good enough for us, but he was love from a lot of Arsenal fans. he was a hang He was a dirt cat, wasn't he? He worked his socks off for that team. Oh, I forgot about Nacho. Oh, wow. Mate, what about you, Matt? where's you Where's your head at this? Is it too much of a loophole to say Louis Skelly?
00:12:42
Speaker
um
00:12:46
Speaker
I love the recency bias. I love it. What about you, Craig? Where's your shout? large winter burn or oh
00:12:59
Speaker
has to be Montréal one of them to all guarantee me. I did have winter bear as well, I did have a bear. Winter bear is good, it's got a lot of gold for us and it's got a lot of matches for us as well, one and all trophies as well, that's not what I thought about him.
00:13:18
Speaker
of a poet hero as well He's a bit of a hero. OK Jamie, I'm going to give you the casting vote this time. It's Tieni's not really in it. It's Montréal or Nigel Winterburn. Where are you leaning with this one?
00:13:33
Speaker
I think for me, I've probably just got to lean it towards Montréal. I mean, I never forget Wembley. I just, I never forget Wembley. I just never forget him as a, as a player. Just, yeah, for me, it'd be Montréal. I feel like we're doing Matt Dirty here. Two exit suggestions in Jen Coe and Lewis Skelly being crashed out. In which case we'll start with you for centre backs, Matt. We need two centre backs, beloved centre backs. Who would you say?
00:14:03
Speaker
I don't care for recency bias. I'm not. I can't not just say Gabrielle. Like, I think he is so loved. Yeah, I think the way he's not not even just like, ah you know, like how good he's been and how consistent he's been, but the way he carries himself around Arsenal fans and like off the pitch and everything like that, the way that he joined Arsenal at the very beginning of Miguel Arteta's era. I think he is so loved.
00:14:31
Speaker
and ah feel like the other um um for getting a heap of names i've not thought too much about zeba um' just gonna say so gamble cause i think they yeah adored envelope obvious reasons and ah successful as he was for yeah carries himself brilliantly and A successful centre back and
Top Picks for Beloved Arsenal Forwards
00:14:52
Speaker
was a turncoat in the right direction.
00:14:55
Speaker
He didn't do us over, he did them over. I definitely ah definitely agree with you on Saul Campbell. um I threw out, we kind of discussed it yesterday, I threw out per motorcycle.
00:15:08
Speaker
yeah people love what he's become man um let' if yeah he's like it's like the bfg of well he is the bfg of the arsenal sort of of the arsenal back room you know but you're missing out you're missing that one main guy who got a statue outside it' the stadium yes i know that tony adams is an important player i just i just wanted to throw him out for fun
00:15:36
Speaker
So, I mean, Craig, where do you lean in this? Obviously, Josh is very hard pushing for Tony Adams. I like Matt Schat of Gabrielle. I think that's actually a good one there. Where would you go, Craig? I think Tony Adams' war is done at Arsenal through for Captain Leung 8, 170 trophies. Only Arsenal are a European trophy sort of one of all the captains at Arsenal. A lot of European trophies, but he was the one, 189 at Anfield as well.
00:16:05
Speaker
back in those at those days, so also him and maybe she Saul Campbell and Gabriel, to be honest with you. OK, J-Man, we're going to put you in this position again. Yeah, indeed. This is a horrible question. This is, yeah. Most beloved Saul Campbell or Gabriel?
00:16:29
Speaker
Oh, I'm already typing in what I think is the right answer. this Um, would probably edge
00:16:45
Speaker
Sol Campbell. Correct. Really? Really? Remember he didn't mean what kind of dirty as well, you know. But you've got to remember though, it's the Tottenham transfer and, and know you know, and just him as a player, you know, he was just, he was the kind of centre back you kind of really looked at as like a powerhouse kind of guy, do you know what I mean?
00:17:10
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, yeah, it's the one good thing George Graham did for us is sending him to us. Right. um We've gone on for 17 minutes and that's just the goalkeeper and defenders. So we're going to take a quick break. And when we come back, it's midfielders time. This is going to be, this is going to be feisty. I can already tell. Right. We'll be back just after this message from Zancaster. Here at Global Sports Podcast Network, we spend a lot of time selecting our delivery platform.
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If you're ready to tell your story, check out the link in the show description to learn more about Zencaster. And welcome back to the Daily Arsenal Podcast. We are doing the most beloved Arsenal 11. Sort of trying to make up karma-wise for all the horrible things we did yesterday in the most hated 11. We've got the goalkeeper and we've got the defenders. Now it's time for the midfielders. Now there's a lot of midfielders to pick from in this and we're not looking for the best We're looking for the most beloved.
00:18:25
Speaker
Jamie, we've we've come to you for a tiebreaker twice. I'm going to start now with you. It's it's obvious. There's one midfielder that should be on everyone's mind and it is the one and only Santi Cozola. He has like, I'm sorry, but he's got to be there. There's just no explanation. There's no reasoning. He has to be in there.
00:18:52
Speaker
I could not agree with you, more Matt, we got a big thumbs up from you there. My favourite player ever, to be honest, so a simple one. He was beautiful, wasn't he? Craig, you agreed too? I think I saw a big nod there. Yeah, I agree. Pop low, man. We'll miss him today, man.
00:19:11
Speaker
the the one thing The one thing that really breaks my heart is the fact he never said a proper goodbye to the Arsenal fans. We never got that goodbye, we just never had that proper goodbye and that still hurts to this day. Yeah, it does. I think he'll come back And I think he'll say a proper goodbye at some point. There might be a testimonial or something like that. That would be nice. Love to see him. bever Yeah, we do actually. Yeah. Is is he still playing or is he just retired? He's still playing, I believe. Mikel, if you're listening.
00:19:46
Speaker
Was it a recent Arsenal game as well? Like the last time is the get to it yeah late so yeah yeah yeah it was He's probably one of the most universally beloved Arsenal players that we've ever had. I think whenever you talk to an Arsenal fan about Santi Kezorla, they just immediately light up. It's one of those things that just brings them joy. I mean, that's the easiest entry we've had all day. That's great, Santi Kezorla. Josh.
00:20:13
Speaker
There's a lot of others to pick from. be In this formation, we're giving ourselves three midfielders, because there's a lot of strikers who are very beloved as well forwards. So midfielder beloved, who you think him to go alongside Santi? Well, he is a midfielder, but he's more than attacking midfielder. That's fine. I had to I was gonna say Robert Perez. Okay. of robert perz I think yeah, I think Even though, you I think even he's asked, he's asked, I think he didn't even want to leave i have a video. we I think when good to want to get rid of him, it was catching on a bit. So I mean, he was a bit upset with leaving as well.
00:20:47
Speaker
Um, I was thinking Patrick Vieira, but one thing I he didn't like about him is that he used to flirt with transfer when it was transferred needs to flirt with other teams. He's do a lot. I need to get my nerves. So I didn't really put him in there just, just for that. So I think I'm edging just Robert Perez. I kind of agree with you on the Vieira front. He was an icon, but it doesn't necessarily mean he was beloved. I don't think Craig, where do you stand on the Vieira?
00:21:13
Speaker
he did He did a lot for the club, but I don't know what his commentary said about the whole flirting every season. His names were Grand Madrid, and one season they could mime out, and one season, then when we finally got rid of him, then you like he didn't do it came back to us for that game and got the offenders and the Champions League and we beat them.
00:21:30
Speaker
So, honestly, whose food of it they often there are groupovage umant here I I I quite like the Perez chat. I'm going to preemptively put him in for now, but I'd also like to turn to Matt for the next pick. So, Matt, who would you like to throw forward? It's a difficult one. It is. midfielders is a difficult one because there's so many beautiful Arsenal midfielders.
00:21:58
Speaker
I think this is this is all very subjective to who you speak to as well. So I feel like the older Arsenal fans, there are certain names which just won't not be in the team. So like Dixon will Adams will and players like that 100 percent will and then to the younger of lot there will be.
00:22:15
Speaker
and quite a few with the current squad even or the last five to ten or so years it was very subjective but a few names uh i mean like one obviously obviously didn't watch or anything like that but the way like david rocastle is spoken about oh yeah no i that's a big shout yeah in terms of the love and affection from yeah from the club that is a fantastic shout who i'd completely forgotten please carry on man Yeah, so he is the way I always see him spoken about nowadays, almost like we've got our version of him nowadays in terms of how loved the kind of soccer is. Yeah, that always just like sticks with me in terms of how highly he's loved and rated and everything like that. Yeah. And then I guess that final slot or obviously subjective final slot. Yeah, say we've already got our three sorted that final slot.
00:23:08
Speaker
It's difficult because you have players like Wilshire who obviously really loved. But obviously the injuries and people always hold them in really high regard, but just those injuries and because he didn't play as much as people would have liked him to, he didn't get held as high of regard potentially, you could say. I feel like Aaron Ramsey's in quite a similar boat too. I think he's another really loved player. I feel like Thomas Rizzicki was another really loved player. Yes, he's on my list. I was about to mention him.
00:23:43
Speaker
And then a final a final name, more defensive, because maybe the team needs a bit of balance. There's probably a lot of bias, but Gilberto Silva. I was thinking him too. You know what? I knew JD. I was waiting for JD to make it than this. Yeah. JD, you love a bit of Gilberto, don't you? He does. Yeah, I think he's underrated. I think he's so underrated. He is maddeningly underrated. like I'm willing to put four midfielders in.
00:24:07
Speaker
I'm very happy to do that. and i was going to men
Conclusion and Future Discussions
00:24:10
Speaker
I was going to give another honourable mention yeah to someone we've not mentioned. I want to see your guy's opinion on this, but Cess Fabregas? No. and who No, not really. No. He did well. But yeah, I thought he did well yeah in that sense. Would you guess he was a legend or as a loved player?
00:24:34
Speaker
I think he was a loved period player. Like, I think one of those where Arsenal have had a lot of really talented players, but they've either ditched us, become legends, or struggled with injuries. And I think he falls into the category of ditched us. Some people still feel really strongly towards him. like Some people still love Alexei Sanchez nowadays, for example. But they equally stiffed us and can't be in the most lovable 11 in my life. We call those people wrongans, Matt.
00:25:03
Speaker
snap chair so so far we got kathala we got pires we got roe castle i i honestly i actually think silver would be a really good shout in that i was also going to suggest abu di abi was a much loved, more people loved Abi. Again, though, with what Matt was saying about Wilshire, didn't really see enough of him because... Injury plagued, unfortunately. Yeah. um Alexander Kleb is another name, was loved, but left, like we discussed yesterday, Craig, left in dodgy circumstances, wasn't like the happiest. But also Reiss and Martin Erdogan, like Martin Erdogan, he is a loved player.
00:25:44
Speaker
soap so probably all So... Lee and Brady as well for our time, but it was a good trip also. It was very big at that point. It's a hard one, isn't it? It is, yeah. Yeah, difficult with midfield, yeah. Do you know what? What I'm going to do is in the last midfield spot, I think because of everyone's reaction, I'm going to put, for now, in brackets, Gilberto Silva, because I think we can all agree, absolutely adored by the fans. If we decide with us with our forwards that we'd rather go for just two forwards than we can have silver in the squad. Cool. Okay. Well, we'll see how it goes. Yeah, but we'll come back just after this break when we hear a message from the global sports podcast network and we'll talk about the forwards. See you in just a second.
00:26:29
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00:26:59
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Global Sports Podcast Network. Every club. Every day. And welcome back to the Global Sports Podcast Network. It's the Daily Arsenal Podcast and we're discussing the most beloved Arsenal 11. There are arguably either two or three forwards left to pick from and I'm going to pick them for us. Two forwards. It is very simple. It's very obvious. It's Nicholas Bentner and Olivier Giroud. The two most beloved Arsenal forwards. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. I thought we were, I thought Kai Havertz would have been up there as well to be fair.
00:27:36
Speaker
60 million down the drain. King Kai scores again. But on a serious note, Craig, ah there are some obvious names that we have to mention. Who's the one that we should just get done straight away? Is TT that man?
00:27:54
Speaker
Yes, but I like to write before teasing the others with you. Yes, yes, yes, yes. I'm 100% honest with you. I'll say when I was growing up, I was a guy, everyone loved Ian Wright. Everyone else will find you love Ian Wright back in the day. So I have to say Ian Wright. Ian Wright done his workouts with me and then squeezing on with you as well.
00:28:14
Speaker
Ooh, okay. I do agree. In terms of the beloved players, Ian Wright is probably up there with Santi as like the big loved ones. Jamie, is there room in this squad for Thierry Henry?
00:28:29
Speaker
You've got to hope. There's a reason why. i watch you for this plan He is unbelievable. that you That is just that's got to be the most ridiculous question ever. I mean,
00:28:46
Speaker
ah they we could go through at the back. We've got to make some sort of who cares about the balance or the logic of the team. We need as many midfielders and the same three forwards.
00:28:58
Speaker
so I think you're right. Yeah, so I mean, Matt, who's the third forward for you, then? Honestly, he's he's he's so loved by Arsenal fans nowadays. Got to be Lucas Perez now.
00:29:11
Speaker
Just like, obviously Arsenal fans so loved forwards. And obviously, there's a recency bias. But I just can't not say that Saka would agree where it's like,
00:29:25
Speaker
No one. I think the front, el like really easily, like I think Henry Wright and Saka pick itself so, so easily. Henry, because you can't not write because he's adored by Arsenal fans and obviously, you know, the fumbling side of things and everything, the way he carries himself, the way he's always involved in projects with a club. And because I could just can't not be there. So obviously we've had a lot of a lot of top forwards, obviously, your bird camps and everyone like that who were just absolutely loved. But those three are just ahead. of Yeah.
00:29:54
Speaker
I'd like to make an honourable mention for I think somebody who is loved probably more because of the tragedy involved in this story, but also Jose Antonio Reyes.
00:30:06
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like yes very loved player um like obviously very sad what happened to him i think a lot of the love for him possibly stems from that which sounds like a really dickish thing to say but it is really is kind of true i mean there's also brilliant there's also brilliant memories in like europe and stuff where he played for us but he was he was a wonderful player they're not not um to what's it called make it bitter or sad or anything as well but i think there's another player who's in that exact same vein if you will uh who you know kevin campbell like absolutely love oh yeah oh god kevin campbell geez
00:30:44
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I think, right, there's too many good, right, we need to lose a defender, guys. We have to lose a defender at this point. um chrisaga It's time to go.
00:30:56
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um i mean At the moment, he's not even in it. We got Lee Dixon, Tony Adams, Saul Campbell and Montréal. ah yeah I have a horrible feeling. like I think I know who you're going to met. I think I know who you might drop. I know who I want to drop. Go on Josh. Go on Josh. Go on JD.
00:31:17
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It's got to be soul, you know? um I think it's got to be soul. The only reason why, because the way he left, put a sour taste in Vastle and that's the only reason why. He didn't leave in the best way, but he came in the greatest way. So it's kind of conflicting. He's a bit conflicting guy, but I think he's the only one I can see that probably there's a bit of, you know, there's an error there.
00:31:39
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Yeah, I do a agree. And the last thing that we have to do, obviously, now, Josh reminded me of this yesterday. And ah through, you know, very well renowned manager under the bus. Josh, who is the most beloved Arsenal manager? This is really, really hard. I bet. I i bet.
00:32:01
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It's, you know, because I want to say Wengor, but he was hated as well. He was hated, especially at the end. yeah He was hated. So, but I can't not say Wengor because... I'm going to... freddie youngberg Then there's george George Graham again. And I don't want to pick him. No, because he was the Tottenham. Matt made the absolute perfect point, who I was going to suggest as well. Not for the managerial stint, but he's beloved Freddie Lemberg.
00:32:32
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Freddie Loomberg.
00:32:38
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Josh, you really managed. Even better. About 31 west time away. Yeah, that was a good win. He's beloved. Go Craig, you can say something then. Nah. I can't have that man. Yeah, for real, for real.
00:32:58
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Matt, I think it was a great shout. He was my one. I mean, Jamie, it's us and then it' it's got to be us. You know, you know the the the jackets, you know, him and his jackets and, you know,
00:33:17
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Nothing more you can say really. I'll be honest, whenever I'm struggling with a coat, I do think to myself, Arson would be proud. You know what, I had that dilemma yesterday. I was with my girlfriend yesterday and I was trying to do up my jacket and she turned round and she was like, you're doing a venga. And I was like, uh, crying too. I mean, that part at Old Trafford, when you just say Elizabeth's hands,
00:33:42
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yeah yeah um yeah that's a so funny thing iconic massively iconic do you know what this means gents it means we have our most beloved arsenal now yesterday in the most hated arsenal 11 it was a banging team let's see if we agree with that on the most beloved Managed by the great Arsene Wenger, David Seaman in goal and along the back line a back three of Lee Dixon, Tony Adams and Nacho Monreal. Making up the midfield, Gilberto Silva playing alongside David Roecastle, Robert Perez and Santi Cozola.
00:34:22
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with a front line of Bekaya Saka, Thierry Henry and Mr Arsenal himself, Ian Wright. Oh wow, no room for Berkampf. No room for Berkampf. No room for Berkampf. No room for Berkampf. No room for Berkampf. No room for Berkampf. No room for Berkampf. No room for Berkampf. No room for Berkampf. No room for Berkampf. No room for Berkampf. No room for Berkampf. No room for Berkampf. No room for Berkampf. No room for Berkampf. No room for Berkampf. No room for Berkampf. No room for Berkampf. No room for Berkampf. No room for Berkampf. No room for Berkampf. No room for Berkampf. No room for Berkampf. No room for Berkampf. No room for Berkampf. No room for Berkampf. No room for Berkampf. We'll No room score 20 goals as well. It is mad for Berkampf. that Burkamp's not No room in there, isn't it? Yeah, really. Yeah, it doesn't. Yeah, it really doesn't kind of... I think with him. I think with him, I love Arsenal fans. I know he's going to fly in, but if he wasn't going to fly in, we would have won so much more Champions League games. If he sorted himself out and knocked himself out for flights, he would be the first name on this list. But he didn't, so he doesn't even get a look in.
00:35:17
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anyway but then by the way Oh, who's the captain of? Yeah, who is? I would, I would say two names and I would say it in terms of the most beloved as opposed to the actual captain. So I would say the most beloved. I would go either Ian Wright or Santa Cazola. Oh, you read my mind.
00:35:37
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no i would have i add him
00:35:44
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No. Listen, when he had that drinking problem, right? Wenger said that, okay, none of us are drinking because Tony can't drink. We're all not drinking. You know what I mean? He is Tony Adams. Yeah. tiny animals so be like The whole squad.
00:35:56
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Yeah, I mean, and you know, the guy, I mean, the guy's a legend in it. I mean, I think he is beloved by that. I know that period is again, it was quite a long time ago. And I don't think none of us were kind of young at the time to actually remember. But he is loved. And there's a reason why there's a statue outside there for him. So he has to. Yeah, of course. Oh, you agree, don't you, Craig?
00:36:19
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I'll say old school, old school fans say Tony has a musical sound and say Santi Cozzola. Is it the mix of both? I adore Santi and Santi is a dawd to the high heavens. I also just think Sak is a dawd more.
00:36:36
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I think he is a little... I mean, he does no wrong. So so so this question I'm going to ask all of you, who do you think should be off of future captain there? Say if the oil guy leaves in the future, would you and Saka split up the plot? Would you give Saka the captain to the time in the future? I'd give it Deckers, Declan. I would, yeah, I'd probably go, yeah, I'd go Deckers as well, to be fair.
00:37:01
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actually He's had he's had captains he's had ah experience of being captain at West Ham, so it kind of does seem right to give him the armband. You know who's the biggest captain, though, without probably ever going to be our first team captain? Gabriel. He is such a captain. And like he's just so immersed. It wouldn't surprise me if he even gets it ahead of rice. I'm not sure if he would. And that's obviously saying that Erdogan isn't the captain, which any of those three brilliant, obviously, Zachary mentioned. But he is such a captain, isn't he? Yeah, I'm not a leader. A true, true leader.
00:37:36
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Well, I mean, that is it for today's episode. We have created the most hated and the most beloved Arsenal 11. And just before we go, Josh and Foster Cogrig still has a job.
00:37:50
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we said yesterday you seen an interview yesterday no he was he just looked he said like oh did he did he did he say something about the players a tired male yeah yeah but yeah in I was looking at a video on TikTok and it basically the caption said my players are tired mate and he went on to go and say it in the interview Oh, honestly, the point and he was talking about then he was there talking about struggling with the whole Thursday, Sunday, Thursday, Sunday, Thursday, Sunday transition as well. I've i've got it here. here i'll pay it Like that, by the way, I'll try and do my impression. Oh my gosh. Here we go. Scraping guys. Scraping because they're tired, mate.
00:38:33
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I can't. If we'd not played Thursday night and I hadn't rotated the team, do you think it would have been pressing a bit more aggressively today? It's the eyes down. They cannot look at the camera. Anyway, I just thought we'd bring it up because we did discuss whether he'd have a job yesterday. Anyway, that is it.
00:38:51
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thank you so much for listening we hope you enjoyed us making our ultimate beloved arsenal eleven i was your host josh vintce massive thank you to those who joined me matt jamie patterson joshua duncan and craig matthews it was a big old team tonight and we really hope you enjoyed everything we had to say we'll be back tomorrow where we're discussing the problem
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