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Minisode 0.3: Lights, Camera, Action!
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Jonathan and Gabriel discuss their recent news debut! You can find what they're talking about at news.unm.edu
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UNM Feature on Breaking Math
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The following clips are not studio quality recordings, they are on-site discussions. Hello, welcome to a brand new minisode. I'm Jonathan Baca. And I'm Gabrielle Hesh. And why are we doing this episode? This minisode is specifically due to a brand new press release on the University of New Mexico Communications website. Yeah, we connected with a wonderful person called Rachel Witt. How do we meet her?
00:02:58
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Well, let's see. Oh, interesting story. I was actually asking for permission to hang up some breaking math posters in the engineering building, right? And when I was asking, the woman who I spoke with is in charge of communications with engineering. I gave her a couple of business cards that Jonathan had recently made for breaking math, and she goes and she passes them around to her colleagues at UNM. Lo and behold, one of her colleagues is Ms. Rachel Witt, who works for the communications
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department at the University of New Mexico. Before we know it, we get an email and they would like to do a story on the Breaking Math podcast. And that of course snowballed into a video. Just a quick aside, I notice I say of course way too much on the podcast. I'm working on that. Sorry.
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That's great, that's great. Nothing wrong with self-reflection. You know what, Jonathan? I like it when you say, of course. Of course. Okay, moving on.
Educational Visuals by Breaking Math
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So recently, just this week and as well as last week, we met Rachel Witt for a two-part episode. You actually may have heard her already.
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Those of you who have heard our very last episode called Evolution and Engineering, she was a special guest on that episode. Before that episode, we sat with her and we did a video interview, and we also gave her a lot of our Photoshop artwork and a whole lot of written stuff as well. So we look forward to reading the interview and seeing the videos. In fact, you all can see it right now if you go to, what's the website for our listeners? You can go to news.unm.edu.
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Right. And we should be one of the stories starting today, in fact, which is why we're making this Minnesota. Now, there's another there's another reason why we're doing this Minnesota. What was what was interesting is when we were talking with Rachel about this story, we gave her a lot of Photoshop work. We don't just have one or two bits of Photoshop. Jonathan is actually a Photoshop artist. And how many pieces of Photoshop work do you have for breaking math, Jonathan?
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I think we've done like 40 at least. Goodness, between 40 and 50 per my last count. Not all of them are up there, but a vast majority of them are. Now, an entire minisode dedicated to our visuals. This is very justified. And you can find the visuals at Facebook.com slash Breaking Math Podcast.
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Yeah, yeah now now it's interesting because when we talk about doing a podcast all about mathematics we realize that That we have you know an auditory format you can hear us talking but frankly speaking I don't know how to do math if there's not visuals so for those who don't know breaking math has a lot of visuals and some of them are instructional we have a video a video a visual on Maxwell's equations we have a visual on
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The on non Euclidean geometry, we even have a very extensive visual on tensors, which are advanced math concept to be frank, you know, actually, that was a really cool, you know, I'm gonna call it a poster, the terminologies, we don't all agree on the terms that, you know, you can call either a meme or a poster.
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Jonathan made an entire poster on the mathematics of general relativity, Einstein's general relativity, not special relativity. This is a much more difficult concept, and Jonathan made almost a tutorial on understanding tensor mathematics, which is used in general relativity. Where can they see that poster, Jonathan? Again, at facebook.com slash Breaking Math Podcast.
00:06:21
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Yes, made purely for your enjoyment. We actually have it at the University of New Mexico, too. We got permission to hang it up, which is really cool. We're really proud of that. I'm proud of that for what you did. I didn't have anything to do with it. I just told you that you should hang it up. Well, you actually really gave me a bunch of advice on the poster as I was making it. But one of our favorite series of posters is the
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Physics episode posters. Oh goodness So so one of my major passions is physics and as we were planning our episode now our physics episode is not called physics It's called language of the universe. It's episode five. I believe yeah Yeah, I actually specifically want to address our our posters or our memes that we made when we were trying to build hype for this episode we had this idea where
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I thought it would be really cool since physics is everything and math is everything. I thought it'd be really cool to pick a series of very iconic photography or iconic paintings or images and just superimpose a physics equation right on them. So, for example, that famous picture of Marilyn Monroe where she's having trouble with her dress on top of a vent. You could see the compressible Navier-Stokes equations.
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So, yeah, as Jonathan had just said, one of the first memes that we made to pass around on the internet to advertise for our physics podcast, Language of the Universe, was on the Marilyn Monroe poster that everybody knows about. Now, Jonathan, can you tell me what was the equation that you superimposed on it? That was the incompressible Navier-Stokes, excuse me, this compressible Navier-Stokes equations.
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The Navier-Stokes equation described the flow of a fluid. People think of a fluid as being wet, but a fluid is anything like air or water, anything that can take the shape of its container. And it's a really interesting equation because it's not understood very well at all by anyone.
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That's fascinating. So I love it that we get to capitalize on the fact that there's this wonderful, iconic image. And we say, look, it's not Merlin Monroe. It's the fluid. It's the physics. I just think that's wonderful. Now, that was the first of many, many posters. The other poster was a famous Japanese painting of waves. Yeah. If you've ever seen the Japanese painting of waves, it was made in the 1800s, The Great Wave off Kanagawa.
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That's um, yeah, that's what we did. Um, and yes, of course, they're not waves as in sine waves, but Everything is an approximation. First of all, that's my excuse and second of all, it's a pretty painting and third of all It teaches you about waves. Yeah. Yeah, so I I think that was a beautiful beautiful Picture and actually that was one of the first breaking math original memes. Well, I say original obviously it's the original Japanese painting and
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That was one of the first breaking math memes that was picked up by other websites as well and shared around. So in a small way, it went viral. So I thought it was pretty cool. And again, the funny thing about people on the internet is people on the internet like to correct people. We know that the wave equation we included is for electromagnetic waves. Again, it was our fault. Well, any real, I hear I go correcting.
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Any sort of sinusoidal wave, like even probability waves, but yeah. Yes, Jonathan, when you correct me, can you please start your correction with um, well, actually? Um, well, actually. Thank you. I appreciate that. I just, you know, correct format.
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Now, what was kind of cool is there was a gentleman who shared the wave equation meme on his Facebook page. He then requested that we do one for him. He had this idea of doing a Three Stooges physics meme. And that one's of course about kinetic energy.
Understanding Fourier Series
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the amount of energy that you transfer into somebody's head when you hit them with a wrench. Yeah, yeah. So, you know, again, as we're talking about all of these wonderful pictures, you all can see them. Now, it's not directly on our Facebook page. You just have to go to the photos section and look for any of them that say, language of the universe. That's our entire series of photos. And there's a whole bunch of them. Because again, we know that physics is everything. What were some of the other memes? We had one with the Trinity site. That was
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about the conversion of mass to energy, E squared equals M squared C to the fourth plus momentum squared times the speed of light squared. Do y'all catch all of that? Well, if you didn't, you can see it. There's this enormous mushroom cloud picture that's a pretty well-known picture. Yeah, and we did the iconic but not very original Pink Floyd cover.
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That's right. That's right. And that was actually the idea of, uh, on, on that, on the episode language of the universe, we had a physics professor, a physics lecturer from the university of New Mexico. Uh, it was professor, um, Busharon, uh, Leandra Busharon, and it was her idea to use the pink Floyd album that shows, um, refraction.
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Yeah, and we did dispersion with that. Yes. Yeah. So that was a cool idea. You know, one of my favorites was actually. So when I taught eighth grade physical science, I taught my kids about kinetic and potential energy. And one of the things we talked about was gravitational potential energy.
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That is to say, the higher you hold an object, the more stored gravitational potential energy you have in that object. So if you hold it over your head or if you go stand on your roof and hold it over the roof, you have even more stored gravitational potential energy. And I think that always confused me about that, by the way, is everybody said that the amount of potential energy that you had gravitationally, you measure it from the floor. And that always confused me because I was like, how can you dig a hole and change the potential energy of something that's already there?
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Oh, yeah, yeah, that's that's actually a that's that, you know, it turns out that the real answer is that this is a difference in energy, a difference in potential energy. The absolute potential energy is when an object is at rest in the middle of space infinitely far from everything. Oh, wow. Yeah, if you want to get philosophical there now, that's actually a very question. I'm not going to get philosophical. I want to talk about the poster that you made. It was the perfect poster. So for our listeners,
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If you had to have a poster that really showed gravitational potential energy, what would be the best poster to use?
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was, you know, those workers who were there having lunch, they're on an I-beam, they're on the Empire State Building, it's in the 1930s, we used that one. Oh, I love that poster. My mother bought me that poster when I was young and I had it hanging up in my bathroom. I'm afraid of heights, so it just gives me the willies to see these construction workers so high up there. But, you know, it was just so much fun. It was so much fun to make this series of posters because again, both Jonathan and I firmly believe that mathematics and physics is everywhere.
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and being able to convey that fact through these beautiful, iconic images was just really cool. Now, we have a lot more, so these images are for one episode. We have other things, we have videos, we have applets. Jonathan, what are some of the applets that we have? Well, one of my favorite applets, I mean, we've mentioned the Hypercube applet on here before, and if you haven't checked it out, go to breakingmathpodcast.com slash hypercube.html.
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But we have things like, if you want to see what a Fourier sequence does, well, technically a cosine sequence, but you can go to breakingmathpodcast.com slash applets.html. We have an applet on there that
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draws a Sierpinski triangle, you know, the triangle within a triangle within a triangle. That's a cool one. It's like a Zelda triangle. So if a trif- you know, from Zelda. So if the Zelda triforce kept having more holes and more holes drawn in, that's what's called the Sierpinski triangle. And it does that by drawing one dot at a time, randomly.
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Yeah, that's a beautiful applet. Oh, and real quick for the non-engineer listeners, I know we've got a few. Can you explain a little bit about the foyer series and just like what, you know, how can you explain the foyer series to a non-engineer? Sure. Basically, imagine that you imagine you heard this podcast, but you're not hearing it from your podcast player. You see this gigantic tuning fork.
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It's a tuning fork that's the size of the Empire State Building or something huge like that. It's going back and forth and it's oscillating. Then you have a smaller tuning fork, and a smaller tuning fork, and a smaller tuning fork, and they're each vibrating at a different, like some are going loudly, some are going quietly.
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but you put all of them together and you hear this entire podcast. That's amazing. Jonathan, did you just think, okay, I totally put you on the spot there with trying to explain the foyer series. Now suddenly I have this, this world I'm imagining where you've got a million different sized tuning forks and they're all vibrating, but suddenly you hear exactly this, like physically speaking, that's possible.
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Yeah, it is, which is insane. That's just like, wasn't it Tesla who said that, you know, he encouraged people to try to think of the world in terms of vibrations? Yeah, he did. He was good at that kind of stuff. And he actually accurately calculated the some harmonic frequency of the world. I think might have been plasma frequency. I'm not totally sure.
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Goodness, that's awesome. This is why I love this. This is why I love what we do.
Comprehensive Learning Experience
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When you start to think about the world and think about all the ways you can think about the world through mathematics and through vibrations, it's a whole new world. I don't mean to sound like Jasmine from Aladdin, but I'm sorry. I can't help it.
00:15:52
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Yeah, that's a very cool one. See, again, I think you may have said that one is available at breakingmathpodcast.com. And if you go to applets, you can find not only the Sierpinski triangle and the Lorenz transform, but also the, what did we call the Fourier series? Is that what we called it? Yeah, Fourier series. Very good. Nice, nice.
00:16:12
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And of course we do all these visuals because it's like Gabriel said, it's math. And talking about math is not the best way for everybody to learn. I know learning styles is getting discredited as a science, but it's true to some extent.
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In the very least, let's take a page out of advertisers. How many ways can you convey information? You know, you have radio commercials, but you can have visuals, too. Now, I don't know anybody who has proven a mathematical theorem or, you know, who has given them mathematical proof only through auditory means. You know, it seems that having a... Well, there's blind mathematicians.
00:16:51
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Yeah, I guess I use Braille. I stand corrected. You are absolutely right. How dare you? You're right. I was not being inclusive. OK, having said all that, we have this podcast where we talk about mathematical concepts, but we also have beautiful visuals that we spend a long time on. And hopefully the visuals will be eye candy, more than eye candy, because I think of candy, you know, and I think of like it's not nutritious. So what's if it's not eye candy, what is it like an eye? I Brussels sprouts.
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I, well more, because those are gross. You know what I mean? How do you cook them right? Okay. So, so an I gourmet meal. Is that, is that okay? I hope you, I hope our listeners are following me, you know, shoot me an email and say whether or not breaking math podcast.com slash Gmail. Yes. Yes. Not breaking breaking math podcast.com slash no.
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breakingmathpodcast.gmail.com. Yes, or shoot us a Facebook message and just tell us if you like my analogy of a five course meal for the eyes. It is nutritious and it gives your brain something to chew on and digest. That just makes me think of eye monsters eating food.
00:18:00
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Okay, well, maybe it's not working out so well. So yeah, so we just invite everybody to check out the amazing visuals. And you know what? We also want to talk briefly about, you know, as we're planning an episode, let's talk about the whole creative process, what goes into making an outline for the podcast and what goes into our visuals.
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Oh yeah, basically me or Gabriel have an idea and we just, and then we like kind of sketch it out a little bit. And then we basically composite it in.
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Photoshop or Illustrator, and then we put it online. And we do it for all the reasons we already said we do it, but we do it also because we're passionate about this kind of work. We want Breaking Math as part of Santa Fe Trail Media to be an all-inclusive media experience.
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totally. If it doesn't come through yet, we certainly are passionate about this. We are hoping that our passion comes through and that you're able to enjoy the topics as well. So yeah, I think Jonathan, you nailed it. So in short summary, the first reason why we decided to do this minisode was because of the brand new
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news release on the Breaking Math podcast. You're going to see what we look like. There's videos of us. So again, if you want to see the Breaking Math news release on the UNM website, just go to the website news.unm.edu. And you can read the story or watch the video. And then what if they want to see more of the Breaking Math art?
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Oh yeah, Breaking Math Art. Go to facebook.com slash Breaking Math Podcast. Yes. You can also, again, shoot us a message. Did you like the art? Would you like more of the art? What else would help the math experience, the learning experience? And then lastly, of course, we've got our applets available, not on the Facebook, but the applets are on the website. Yeah. And we don't want to say that we're
00:19:55
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that were a small enterprise or whatever, but we're small enough where we will listen to everything that you have to say. That's correct. There are two, there are exactly two of us who are behind Santa Fe trail media and breaking math. So soon we will have more soon. We'll have more, but we have a nice humble beginning.