In this conversation, Eugenia Cheng discusses the importance of making math accessible and engaging for everyone, particularly those who have been discouraged by traditional education methods. She emphasizes the intersection of math and art, the dangers of oversimplifying complex issues with numbers, and the need for a more nuanced understanding of equality and fairness in society. Cheng also highlights the significance of mentorship and the impact of gender dynamics in mathematics, advocating for a more inclusive approach to learning and appreciating math as a creative and thoughtful discipline.

Takeaways

 * Many people are put off math due to early education experiences.
 * Math and art should not be pitted against each other.
 * Creativity is essential in STEM fields.
 * Numbers can oversimplify complex realities.
 * Understanding inequality requires recognizing its nuances.
 * Context matters in mathematical reasoning.
 * We often forget important details in data interpretation.
 * Math can be appreciated without full understanding.
 * Building confidence in math is crucial for everyone.
 * Mentorship plays a vital role in academic success.

Chapters

 * 00:00 Introduction to Mathematical Laziness
 * 04:21 The Journey of a Mathematician
 * 06:57 Creativity in Math and Art
 * 09:33 Understanding Inequality through Math
 * 11:57 The Dangers of Simplifying with Numbers
 * 15:07 Political Debates and Mathematical Perspectives
 * 17:15 The Importance of Context in Math
 * 17:44 Category Theory and Abstraction in Math
 * 20:29 Neutrality and the Gray Areas of Equality
 * 24:02 Exploring Equality and Its Nuances
 * 25:17 Mathematics in Real-World Contexts
 * 28:49 The Intersection of Math and Marginalized Voices
 * 32:39 Overcoming Gender Bias in Mathematics
 * 35:28 The Role of Gut Instinct in Math
 * 37:54 The Surprising Aspects of Writing a Book
 * 42:51 Building Confidence in Math for Everyone
 * 46:15 Rethinking Fairness and Structural Challenges

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Unequal with Eugenia Cheng

This week’s episode isn’t our usual deep dive—it’s a behind-the-scenes update. On Monday, Breaking Math vanished from Spotify, Apple, YouTube, and more without warning. After digging in, we discovered a strange RSS glitch that merged our feed with another podcast.

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 * What to expect from upcoming guest episodes

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Breaking Math: When Math Meets a Technology Glitch

In this conversation, Dr. Daryl Fairweather, chief economist at Redfin, discusses her book “Hate the Game,” that frames life and career decisions as strategic games. She emphasizes the importance of understanding economic principles to navigate personal and professional challenges, negotiate effectively, and reclaim agency in various aspects of life. Fairweather shares insights on overcoming barriers related to race and gender, the impact of information asymmetry, and the significance of designing one's own path in a competitive environment. The conversation highlights the necessity of introspection, strategic thinking, and the ability to adapt in a world that often feels rigged against certain individuals.

Takeaways

 * Life can be viewed as a game where strategic decisions matter.
 * Negotiation requires awareness of both your and your employer's options.
 * Workplace bullying can be addressed with strategic approaches.
 * Information asymmetry can hinder career advancement; awareness is key.
 * Barriers in academia can be overcome with strategy and support.
 * Race and gender dynamics play a significant role in economic opportunities.
 * Balancing strategic thinking with empathy is crucial for long-term success.
 * You can still achieve your goals despite systemic unfairness.

Chapters

 * 00:00 Introduction to Economic Principles
 * 03:57 Understanding Economic Cheat Codes
 * 07:08 Navigating Career Options and Negotiations
 * 09:39 Dealing with Workplace Dynamics
 * 11:33 Information Asymmetry in Decision Making
 * 14:02 Designing Your Own Game
 * 15:06 Identity and Power in Economics
 * 17:21 Overcoming Barriers in Economics
 * 25:51 The Impact of Housing on Economic Understanding
 * 30:38 Applying Economic Theory to Relationships
 * 33:02 Winning in a Rigged Game
 * 34:01 Life as a Game: Making Informed Decisions.
   

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Hate the Game

In this conversation, Autumn and Dr. Anthony Bonato explore the fascinating world of networks, discussing their significance in various fields, including mathematics, social interactions, and even the spread of diseases like COVID-19 in his new book Dots and Lines. Anthony shares his journey into network science, the importance of understanding networks in everyday life, and how they can reveal hidden connections. The discussion also touches on popular culture references, such as Game of Thrones and Survivor, to illustrate the practical applications of network theory. Ultimately, the conversation emphasizes the need to embrace mathematics and recognize the pervasive role of networks in our lives.

Takeaways

 * Networks are fundamental to understanding complex systems.
 * The COVID-19 pandemic highlighted the importance of network science.
 * Mathematics encompasses more than just numbers and shapes.
 * Personal experiences can lead to profound realizations about networks.
 * Everyday life is filled with examples of networks in action.
 * Game of Thrones and Survivor serve as engaging examples of network analysis.
 * The Bacon number illustrates connections in Hollywood.
 * Erdős number connects mathematicians through collaboration.

Chapters

 * 00:00 The Inspiration Behind the Book
 * 03:38 Understanding Networks: A New Perspective
 * 06:13 Networks in Everyday Life
 * 08:28 The Power of Networks in Society
 * 11:03 Real-World Applications of Network Science
 * 13:32 Pop Culture and Network Analysis
 * 15:38 The Bacon Number and Network Connections
 * 21:53 The Bacon Number and Small World Phenomenon
 * 26:34 Network Embeddings and Their Applications
 * 31:04 Graph Theory: Patterns and Connections
 * 35:11 The Importance of Mathematics in Everyday Life
 * 36:57 Introduction and Curiosity in Connections

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Dots and Lines: Hidden Networks

In this episode of Breaking Math, Dr. Noah Giansiracusa discusses his book 'Robin Hood Math', emphasizing the importance of mathematical literacy in navigating an algorithm-driven world. He explores how math can empower everyday people, the writing process behind his book, and practical applications of math in daily life, including social media algorithms and financial decisions. The conversation highlights the simplicity of the math that truly matters and encourages listeners to reclaim agency through understanding mathematics.

Takeaways

 * Math is a powerful tool that can empower individuals.
 * The concept of Robin Hood Math aims to redistribute mathematical knowledge.
 * Mathematical literacy is becoming as essential as reading.
 * Algorithms are deeply embedded in our daily lives, influencing decisions.
 * Understanding expected value can improve decision-making.
 * Averaging guesses can lead to better predictions.
 * Social media algorithms prioritize engagement, affecting content visibility.
 * Credit scores are calculated using weighted sums of various factors.
 * Many important mathematical concepts are simpler than they appear.
 * Mathematical literacy can help close equity gaps in society.

Chapters

 * 00:00 Monetizing Social Media for Educators
 * 02:25 The Birth of Robin Hood Math
 * 05:18 Empowering the Everyday Person with Math
 * 08:01 The Writing Process and Surprising Discoveries
 * 10:37 Practical Math Lessons for Everyday Life
 * 13:22 Understanding Algorithms in Social Media
 * 21:56 Understanding Engagement Algorithms
 * 24:28 The Impact of Mathematics on Financial Decisions
 * 29:54 Empowering Through Mathematical Literacy
 * 32:23 Exploring Key Themes in Mathematics

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Robin Hood Math

In this conversation, Dr. Christoph Bartneck discusses the intersection of swimming and computer science, exploring how mathematical patterns can enhance swim training. He introduces the concept of a formal swim markup language to improve data exchange and training efficiency. The discussion also delves into the visualization of swimming techniques, the importance of mental engagement in training, and the aesthetic appeal of mathematics. Christoph shares insights on the challenges of writing his book and his vision for creating a global community around swimming and mathematics.

Takeaways

 * Programming languages can optimize swim training.
 * There's a gap in literature between math and sports science.
 * Data exchange in swimming training is challenging.
 * Visualizing swimming techniques aids in understanding.
 * Mathematical patterns can enhance training routines.
 * Repetitive tasks in swimming can be likened to repetitive songs.
 * Engagement in training is crucial for success.
 * 

Chapters

 * 00:00 The Motivation Behind Swim Training Patterns
 * 02:32 Intersection of Swimming and Computer Science
 * 05:56 Challenges in Measuring and Documenting Swim Performance
 * 09:32 The Role of Patterns in Swim Training
 * 11:54 Mathematical Patterns and Their Application in Swimming
 * 15:14 Exploring Repetitiveness in Music and Swim Training
 * 18:08 Art Projects and Mathematical Patterns
 * 21:13 Fermat's Theorem and Impossible Squares
 * 23:14 Making Math Accessible in Swim Training
 * 26:40 The Importance of a Shared Language in Coaching
 * 27:35 Applying Pattern-Based Approaches to Sports
 * 29:17 The Role of Structure in Training Across Sports
 * 30:02 Current Use of Frameworks in Elite Swimming
 * 30:10 Innovative Training Philosophies in Swimming
 * 32:30 Programming Languages and Their Applications in Sports Science
 * 34:56 The Joy of Writing and Creating
 * 38:59 Challenges in Writing and Communicating Mathematical Concepts
 * 41:37 The Journey of a Book and Community Engagement

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What are Swim Training Patterns?

In this episode of Breaking Math, Autumn explores the complex world of AI ethics, focusing on its implications in education, the accuracy of AI systems, the biases inherent in algorithms, and the challenges of data privacy. The discussion emphasizes the importance of ethical considerations in mathematics and computer science, advocating for transparency and accountability in AI systems. Autumn also highlights the role of mathematicians in addressing these ethical dilemmas and the need for society to engage critically with AI technologies.

Takeaways

 * AI systems can misinterpret student behavior, leading to false accusations.
 * Bias in AI reflects historical prejudices encoded in data.
 * Predictive analytics can help identify at-risk students but may alter their outcomes.
 * Anonymization of data is often ineffective in protecting privacy.
 * Differential privacy offers a way to share data while safeguarding individual identities.
 * Ethics should be a core component of algorithm design.
 * The impact of biased algorithms can accumulate over time.
 * Mathematicians must understand both technical and human aspects of AI.
 * Society must question the values embedded in AI systems.
 * Small changes in initial conditions can lead to vastly different outcomes.

Chapters

 * 00:00 Introduction to AI Ethics
 * 02:14 The Accuracy and Implications of AI in Education
 * 04:14 Bias in AI and Its Consequences
 * 05:45 Data Privacy Challenges in AI
 * 06:37 Mathematical Solutions for Ethical AI
 * 08:04 The Role of Mathematicians in AI Ethics
 * 09:42 The Future of AI and Ethical Considerations

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AI Ethics: Algorithms Go To College

In this episode, we explore the intricate mathematics behind Sp0tify's (ok... and other's) shuffle feature, revealing how it is designed to feel random while actually being carefully curated. We discuss the psychological implications of randomness, the Fisher-Yates shuffle algorithm, and how engineers have created a system that respects human perception of randomness. The conversation delves into the philosophical aspects of curated randomness and the broader implications of mathematical principles in technology and human experience.

Takeaways

 * The shuffle feature is not truly random.
 * Humans struggle to recognize true randomness due to cognitive biases.
 * The Fisher-Yates shuffle algorithm is a standard for randomization.
 * Uses psychological techniques to enhance user satisfaction with shuffle.
 * Dithering is a method used to create a perception of randomness.
 * Shuffle feature analyzes multiple dimensions to optimize song selection.
 * The algorithm incorporates noise to maintain unpredictability.
 * Curated randomness is prevalent in various technologies beyond music.
 * Humans prefer sequences with fewer clusters to feel more random.
 * Mathematics can reveal insights into human behavior and preferences.

Chapters

00:00 The Hidden Mathematics of Spotify Shuffle

05:56 The Art of Psychological Randomness

07:58 Philosophical Implications of Curated Randomness

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Random Shuffle Isn't Random At All

This conversation explores the intricate relationship between mathematics and artificial intelligence (AI) for people who don't want to get too math heavy and want things simplified as much as possible. It delves into how algorithms, machine learning, and various mathematical tools like linear algebra, calculus, and statistics form the backbone of AI technologies. The discussion highlights real-world applications of AI, the ethical implications of its use, and the importance of mathematical literacy in an increasingly AI-driven world. Ultimately, it emphasizes that understanding the mathematical foundations of AI empowers individuals to engage meaningfully with technology and its impact on society.

Takeaways:

 * Mathematics powers seemingly magical technologies like AI.
 * Algorithms are sets of instructions that guide AI processes.
 * Machine learning finds patterns in data through trial and error.
 * Linear algebra organizes data into vectors and matrices.
 * Calculus helps AI find optimal solutions to problems.
 * Probability theory allows AI to express uncertainty in predictions.
 * AI applications include medical diagnostics and financial algorithms.
 * Self-driving cars use mathematics to navigate and make decisions.
 * Mathematical literacy is crucial in an AI-driven world.
 * Understanding AI's math gives individuals agency in technology.



Chapters: 

00:00 The Mathematical Heart of AI

03:28 Mathematics in Action: Real-World Applications

05:33 Empowerment Through Understanding Mathematics

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Algorithms & AI Simplified - The Not So Mathy Version

This conversation delves into the intersection of quantum computing and cryptography, focusing on the implications of quantum computers for current encryption methods and the necessity for post-quantum cryptography. Dr. Dustin Moody from NIST discusses the threats posed by quantum computing, particularly through Shor's algorithm, and the ongoing efforts to develop new cryptographic standards that can withstand these threats. The discussion also covers the role of NIST in standardizing post-quantum algorithms, the mathematical challenges involved, and the importance of preparing businesses for the transition to these new systems.

All opinions are of the individual scientist and do not reflect the opinions of NIST or the federal Government.

Takeaways

 * Quantum computers harness principles of quantum physics for computation.
 * Shor's algorithm can efficiently factor large numbers, threatening RSA encryption.
 * Post-quantum cryptography aims to develop algorithms resistant to quantum attacks.
 * NIST is leading the effort to standardize post-quantum cryptographic algorithms.
 * Lattice-based algorithms are promising for post-quantum cryptography due to their efficiency.
 * Businesses must be proactive in transitioning to post-quantum cryptography.
 * The Harvest Now, Decrypt Later threat highlights the urgency of transitioning.
 * Quantum key distribution offers theoretically perfect security.
 * Different cryptographic algorithms are needed for various applications and devices.
 * The future of cryptography will rely on new mathematical challenges to ensure security.

Keywords

quantum computing, cryptography, post-quantum cryptography, NIST, cybersecurity, Shor's algorithm, digital signatures, lattice-based algorithms, encryption, quantum threats

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What is Cryptography?

Breaking Math is a deep-dive science, technology, engineering, AI, and mathematics podcast that explores the world through the lens of logic, patterns, and critical thinking. Hosted by Autumn Phaneuf, an expert in industrial engineering, operations research and applied mathematics, and Gabriel Hesch, an electrical engineer (host from 2016-2024) with a passion for mathematical clarity, the show is dedicated to uncovering the mathematical structures behind science, engineering, technology, and the systems that shape our future.

What began as a conversation about math as a pure and elegant discipline has evolved into a platform for bold, interdisciplinary dialogue. Each episode of Breaking Math takes listeners on an intellectual journey—whether it’s into the strange beauty of chaos theory, the ethical dilemmas of AI, the deep structures of biological evolution, or the thermodynamics of black holes. Along the way, Autumn and Gabriel interview leading thinkers and working scientists from across the spectrum: computer scientists, quantum physicists, chemists, philosophers, neuroscientists, and more.

But this isn’t just a podcast about equations—it’s a show about how mathematics influences the way we think, create, build, and understand. Breaking Math pushes back against the idea that STEM belongs behind a paywall or an academic podium. It’s for the curious, the critical, the creative—for anyone who believes that ideas should be rigorous, accessible, and infused with wonder.

If you've ever wondered:

 * What’s the math behind machine learning?
 * How do we quantify uncertainty in climate models?
 * Can consciousness be described in AI?
 * Why does beauty matter in an equation?

Then you’re in the right place.

At its heart, Breaking Math is about building bridges—between disciplines, between experts and the public, and between the abstract world of mathematics and the messy, magnificent reality we live in. With humor, clarity, and deep respect for complexity, Autumn and Gabriel invite you to rethink what math can be—and how it can help us shape a better future.

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