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Fans react to Seattle Sounders MELTDOWN at Austin FC!
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Ari and Noah of Lobbing Scorchers react and take calls following Seattle's road matchup at Austin FC.
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Introduction and Invitation to Engage
00:00:00
Speaker
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00:00:22
Speaker
Well sir, we got a scorcher today. Gonna be real scorcher today. Why the scorcher today? Well it's gonna be a scorcher.
Club's Lack of Passion and Vision - A Critique
00:00:43
Speaker
There is no passion. There is no vision. There is no aggression. There is no fucking mindset in this football club. Nothing is there. What the hell is there in this football?
00:00:56
Speaker
Two weeks in a row, we have to pull that out. Two weeks in a row, we have to pull that out, Ari. Yeah, yeah, we were just debating. Should we change it back to the old intro or do we just leave it? We we can just leave it. We can just leave it. There's no no reason
Post-Match Reaction: Seattle Sounders Loss in Austin
00:01:08
Speaker
to change it. ah Good evening, everybody, and welcome to your post-match live for the Seattle Sounders jaunt to Austin, Texas. It did not go well. It is another loss that we're going to be breaking down here tonight. This time, 3-1. Folks, the crash-out red card boys are back.
00:01:25
Speaker
The stream is up on another tab and I'm hearing my voice twice. So I'm going have to close that. Noah, what's up, man? How are you doing? How are you feeling? Another L it's bad. It's dire. it seemed like it wasn't going to be that bad for, for a minute there, but it got really bad right at the end. we got the presser pulled up. It's about to start in a couple minutes. You've got your, uh, your, uh, takeout food. It looks like, looks like we're working with some, uh, uh,
00:01:54
Speaker
got a little carne asada. A little carne asada there and some beans and rice. All right. So youre you got to be on the upswing a little bit. This right here, ari this this is the Seattle Sounders.
00:02:06
Speaker
A succulent meal. ah the The Austin FC said, yeah, I'll take i'll take some of that. let me Let me take some of that. I'll take a little bit of that. I'll take a little bit of this um and some of that and some of that, actually. I'll take i'll take all of that because that was terrible.
00:02:23
Speaker
That was, again, terrible. Terrible. Awful, in fact. um You thought they would come out there with some heart in their drive, and maybe they did in the first half, but another meltdown.
00:02:36
Speaker
Another meltdown. And even making it better, Crash Out Red Card boys are back! Jackson Reagan! So back. So back. Let's go!
00:02:47
Speaker
So back. Crash Out Red Card boys. You know, if the squad is going to tailspin, at least bring the Crash Out Red Card boys back. And boy, did they bring it back right at the end. And yeah... It's a it's another L coming off the worst L in the history of the club. We were all locked in on pins and needles waiting to see what the response would be from the team in this game. No, I'll be honest going into this game.
Analyzing Sounders' Performance and Expectations
00:03:11
Speaker
i i was kind of past even really getting that invested in whether they win or lose. It was more just like go out there and look like you have dignity. That was the, that was the admittedly very low bar that I was looking for them to clear tonight. And when they got damned on 10 minutes into the game, I'm not going to lie. There was, there was a moment right there where I was like, okay, this is, this is chalked. This is going off. They're like this, this has the feeling like it's teetering on the absolute brink. Like the fact that they couldn't make it 10 minutes into the game without getting banned on again. it just, it felt, it felt ah bad. But, you know, I was thinking to myself at that point, all right, you got punched in the mouth again.
00:03:50
Speaker
going to respond this time? Last time you got bammed on four more times, including three times in seven minutes at home by your biggest rival. How are you going respond now? It's 127 degrees in Austin, Texas. It looks very unpleasant elements.
00:04:03
Speaker
ah You got bammed on again. You needed a good response in this game and you're down one zero. How are you going to respond? And, ah you know, to be fair, I thought up until the 85th minute, it was, ah you know, there was at least i ah dignity there in some capacity. You know, i know i' I know I'm grasping at straws right now, but like. don You know, Ari, I agree with you. I agree with you. When it was was like, this is not what I want.
00:04:29
Speaker
But I'll take it. I'll take it. But I'll take it. It's 2 billion degrees. We are literally inside of Satan's asshole right now. You're at least competing. You're you're putting up a fight. You scored. you you scored. You competed. You're on a rotated roster. Stu Hawkins looks good. You're getting Paul Rocker gold. 85th minute. Just see out the 1-1. Just chill it out. We'll take the point. I had all these talking points written out for one one where I was going to be like, you know, yeah, not not a great result, not the greatest response you could have drawn up. But ordinarily, ordinarily in Major League Soccer, a one one road trip to ah ah Austin FC when it's 127 degrees and you're coming off a horrendous loss. So, yeah, yeah.
00:05:18
Speaker
Paul Rothrock and Albert Rusnak. That's who they're giving in the hostage video? Yep. Okay. Albert Rusnak. There we go. That's a little bit of a, maybe, maybe they listened to the show. I don't know, but they did yeah. Well, where was I at? Oh yeah. Like the, just the notion of the one, one, you know, it would have been, would have been better. It would have been a step in the right direction. And then they go and do that at the very end, which is just like,
00:05:40
Speaker
I have to question Ari. I have to question Brian Schmetzer on this Oh yes, let's do this. I had this. i had these I have to question what in the fuck was he thinking? I didn't really criticize Brian that much last match because it really looked like it was on the players. I'm curious.
00:05:59
Speaker
There's hostage video starting, but we'll, we'll pick this. up Oh, here we go.
Media and Fan Interaction: Q&A Session
00:06:02
Speaker
All right, guys. Thanks for sitting down media. I'm not seeing hands. i would like to see some, so we can get started here promptly. so we can get going here with Paul and Albert. Appreciate your time. Callahan, I'm going to go ahead and kick off with you and reminder for others, please please go ahead and hit the raise hand function button for us. Callahan, go ahead, please.
00:06:28
Speaker
Callahan, go ahead, please. might need yourself You hear me? Yeah, we can. Go ahead. OK. So this is the fourth straight loss for the team and second straight game where things started to go off the rails and then immediately spiraled away.
00:06:45
Speaker
What exactly has exactlys been going on with ah with these later halves of games and the games getting away from you guys quickly?
00:07:01
Speaker
Well, your question was that it's the second game in a row where things started well and then right away they sparred away. Can you just repeat your question? oh Oh, sorry. a When things started to go off the rails, with when things started to go pear-shaped, it's been going off the rails badly recently. And I'm just wondering what's been what's been leading to that from ah from on your end? and And what do you think the team needs to change going forward?
00:07:29
Speaker
I mean, um yeah, last week was she was and it was a different type of game than today. I think last week we played well for maybe first 10, 15 minutes. um I'm not sure what exactly minute we conceded to today, the 2-1 goal, but it felt, you know, freddie pretty late in the game. um And I would say, yeah, I mean, it was a tough game today, but I felt first half, you know, after giving up a goal, we came back.
00:07:59
Speaker
We ended the half strong. I thought we were really good with the ball. Didn't let them create many chances. um And then, yeah, second half, you know, we we dropped a little bit lower um and a When we won the ball, we couldn't really do what we did first half. We couldn't really connect passes and and go forward and push them back and pin them back. But ah yeah as far as you know performance last week, this week, it's nowhere near the same.
00:08:30
Speaker
It just, yeah, I mean, like you said, it's four games, losses in a row. So I think at this point where we are with four losses in a Yeah, we may need to shift more focus on result rather than performance, because I don't really think that any of us give a shit how it's going to happen. We're just going to have to get away and keep playing ugly for 100 minutes. None of us care at this moment in time, you know looking at the next game, which is a couple of days.
00:09:01
Speaker
We need the result. and and yeah And I think that that that's the only way to to get out of this hole that we found ourselves the moment
00:09:13
Speaker
All right, next question, we're going to over to Jada Evans. Jada, you should be good to ask your question. Go ahead, please. Thanks. I got here a little bit late, but I did hear you, Albert, as far as not feeling that this is the same as the Portland match. Yeah, this ah you guys were playing well in the first half and seemed to have control of the game, but du did cede two goals late. You know, how can you...
00:09:42
Speaker
It's kind of, it kind of seems like it's the same though. I mean, how how do you guys feel that it's so different though? Yeah, I don't agree. this It's same. I think that's, they were two completely different games. You know, this was a game on the road in the
Game Analysis: Management and Tactical Decisions
00:09:59
Speaker
heat. I thought we managed the game, you know, through 75, 80 minutes pretty professionally. And then you know
00:10:11
Speaker
There's couple mistakes on the second goal. that Obviously we went back and then you know we're we're pushing to get a second one. We change formation a little bit. you know We have guys in some different positions we're chasing for a goal and conceded a third. I think Portland collectively, you know we were not together as a huge You could clearly see that and you feel that in the game as a player.
00:10:43
Speaker
Today, I didn't feel that way. i thought for a good chunk of the game, we did you know we took some steps in the right direction from the previous week. But yeah, conceding lay like that kills you. I think we've that's a game where we keep it to 1-1 lay, maybe we find winner. And you know even 1-1 is a pretty good result. now you can get any types of points on the road and then at home. But i don't I don't totally agree with the the first question and the first comment that both games were a landslide.
00:11:21
Speaker
OK. Like I said, I forgot. I didn't hear that part. um But with Jackson, though, did you guys feel as the um the game was progressing that the attitude toward you guys guys from Austin where the tensions getting high there or was it getting more heated as the game progressed and then that kind of spilled over to what Jackson that hard foul getting sent off?
00:11:50
Speaker
No, I think, you know, it's it's a competitive game like this is friendly and, you know, we're not expecting them to be nice. I don't think, you know, they're expecting us to be nice like Yeah, I mean, I think, you know, going back to Jackson's card, I think once he got the first yellow, he was going to suspended anyway for the next game.
00:12:10
Speaker
um And yeah, I think it's frustration. Listen, everybody's frustrated. It's not, you know, what we what we expected. going to lose four games in a row now. um So yeah, there is frustration and that frustration, you know, led to to Jackson making the foul again. but then again they have a clear chance so um i don't believe in one bit for taking the second yellow and essentially the red card. I think, you know, at that point the game was 3-1 with probably seven minutes left. um
00:12:44
Speaker
So yeah, I mean, it is, it is frustration, but you know, no one, no was no one is is mad at Jackson for for making that foul and essentially getting sent off. so All right, we're going to go to Jeremiah Oshin next. Jeremiah, you should be clear to ask. Go ahead.
00:13:06
Speaker
Jeremiah, go ahead. You might be muted.
00:13:12
Speaker
Okay, Jeremiah, we'll come back to you. We're going to go to Noah. This meeting is being recorded. Yeah, we're here, Jeremiah. We're going to Noah. We'll come back to you. I think you're having an issue. Go ahead, please.
Player Performance and Team Cohesion
00:13:35
Speaker
Yeah. um I think, like I said, through
00:13:43
Speaker
large part the day, we responded well. I thought collectively the mentality was much better. um you know, in some of those metrics where you can, I feel like you can measure mentality a little bit and and the duels and whatnot. I felt like, know, I haven't seen the stats on that, but I do feel like it was a more even game in that regard.
00:14:06
Speaker
um I thought we were more aggressive tonight. I thought we backed each other up more. We looked more like a collective tonight.
00:14:19
Speaker
I think tough stretch for us and you know albert and i have been in these administration before together we We as a group have been in some of these holes as a team and I still feel like each time we found a way out of them year after year and know I still have the confidence that we will again you know find our way out of this one and ends you know it's not going to happen. We're not goingnna be just going to start winning, it's going happen with
00:14:53
Speaker
you know Dave Kuntz, steps here baby steps there, I thought we started taking some really good steps tonight. Dave Kuntz, Just as far as we play as a as a team together and we're on the same page but obviously it hurts.
00:15:11
Speaker
Dave Kuntz, This one really hurts. think we put ourselves in a pretty good position to get a good result tonight and know in the last little bit we but our foot off the gas and four All Jeremiah, let's go back to you if your feed works. Can you hear me okay?
00:15:35
Speaker
We can. You know, obviously four losses in a row, I think this the first time since 2013 that's happened to you guys way before either of you were we're on this team.
00:15:47
Speaker
I mean, how do you, though, go about keeping this from snowballing into something even bigger? bigger You obviously have two more road games, you have and then you have another road game and in League's Cup.
00:15:59
Speaker
You know, it it seems like it could spiral pretty badly it it if it if you let it. Yeah, I mean, yeah, you're asking the right questions.
00:16:10
Speaker
And of you know no matter what we sit here are going to say, it's really going to make sense and in some ways. um I would put you know the the snowballing an effect of the losses.
00:16:26
Speaker
We got two more games. has got two different competitions. And we have two more games in MLS.
00:16:39
Speaker
And right now with the stretch that we're having, ain't no game. It's going to easy. And, you know, little 50-50 balls seem to go against us. Little deflections seem to go against us. and And it's, I mean, I've been, we've been in those situations before.
00:16:55
Speaker
You feel kind of like, you know, no matter what you do, this is it's not really good enough. um And the only way we get out of this is with a wi and like i said in the first question It doesn't matter how the win is going to come at this point.
00:17:10
Speaker
um So yeah, we're going to have to find a way. And the next game is is in three days' time. And it's probably a good thing. We don't have to wait a week and then you know have this loss, and another the loss on our mind for a
Coaching Strategies and Team Adaptation
00:17:24
Speaker
week. But it's it's a two-day turnaround. And we play Saturday again. And it's new opportunity. And you know we'll watch film from today.
00:17:32
Speaker
um We'll try and learn as a team from the mistakes. Yeah, but nevertheless, you know it's going to take a while to get us out of this. And then we can probably answer all of your guys' questions with a bit more sense.
00:17:51
Speaker
Yeah, I'd also like to respond to that. I don't agree with that narrative. I think that's a, I understand where you're coming from, Jeremiah. i think that's a fearful narrative. um Yes, we've lost four games in a row.
00:18:05
Speaker
The writing's on the wall there. um It doesn't mean we're going to keep losing. And yes, we've struggled in these games. But I think the way you talk about the future is really important too. And know you guys can talk about that narrative, but that's not going our narrative. What we talk about in the locker room.
00:18:27
Speaker
know i think different guys are goingnna have to step up this is a moment you know, i've I've talked to some of the younger guys who have gotten this playing time this year. This is the one where they have to step up. This is an opportunity for some of them to come in and make some plays.
00:18:41
Speaker
And we're gonna need we're gonna meet those guys right now. And, you know, I think, I encourage you to be surprised. to the open to's going to step up in this next please there will be there'll be some new people would step up and make some place for us and help us get out this moment that we're All right. That's a good place to leave it. I know there's a couple follow-ups, but we're going to let the guys go here so we can get head coach Brian Schmetzer into the media room. Paul Albert.
00:19:14
Speaker
I don't know if you guys could hear my question. no so i can't wait we can't hear what you're saying when you switch the setting, but I think I think i was able to gather what you asked, but you do what do you want to tell the people yeah no i know like what you asked and why you asked it?
00:19:28
Speaker
Yeah, so earlier this week, Paul had talked about how he wanted to us to judge the team based on how they responded. Not based on their worst performance, but based on how they were able to come out next match. And I wanted to hear from them exactly how they perceived this match as their comeback match. And I i agree with Paul in a lot of what he said is that if you look at the metrics, they played a lot better.
00:19:52
Speaker
They played a lot better. wasn't going to bring that up, but since you mentioned it, I was looking at the underlying performance metrics just to see. Not to cope. I mean, in the high test, you can tell that they played a lot better. It was pretty much dead even. I consider that it was 3-1, but it was at least a competitive game for most of it.
00:20:17
Speaker
And then they melted down at the end. But, you know. for whatever it's worth. I think we do have Schmetz sliding in here, so we can pick up on that. But yeah, let's ah see what ah see what he has to say. yeah a Jeremiah, why don't you go ahead and kick us off, please?
00:20:33
Speaker
Yeah, ah Brian, um you know, obviously this is a sort of unprecedented area for you. You guys have never had four-game losing streak under under your time here.
00:20:46
Speaker
ah You know, what what can you do differently than what you did coming into this game? And I guess even coming into the the Portland game. Well, look, I think i think the outcome of the game certainly doesn't bear this out, but we went over a lot of details after the Portland game about different solutions, helping the players, you know, of stuff and stuff that was in our control
00:21:18
Speaker
uh challenges jeremiah that look players don't perform you know and it it starts to fall on me so i know in the past i've said a bunch of things uh you know i think the coaching staff did a good job of you know preparing the game plan i thought we were in the game until the end ah We need to step up and make more plays offensively because look, we can talk about the three goals, which I'm sure somebody's gonna ask me about.
00:21:50
Speaker
But against that particular team, you know we need to be a little bit more goal dangerous to get us out of the slump. ah But you know I think I can say this, ah whatever the al outcome of the game and preparation and all that, the guys didn't quit. They were fighting till the end.
00:22:11
Speaker
So that's that's still there.
00:22:16
Speaker
All right, we'll go next to Noah. Go ahead and ask your question, Noah.
00:22:26
Speaker
think you did in the queue, but no worries. Jada, can go ahead and ask yours, please. Thanks. Brian, you made two changes that early on seemed to work as far as putting Stewart and Peter in Can you talk a little bit, I guess, about that? And then, you know, the goals, yes, they were they were late goals. And it seems like you've had those kind of issues before where closing out has has been a problem in the past. But, you know, there were kind of two paths.
00:22:53
Speaker
Peter did a good job. You know, he went down, the assist. and you know was dangerous on the goal. ah you know Did his defending. I mean, look, in the first half, he got he got you know good somebody to play the ball inside of him, which you know shouldn't happen. But I think overall, Peter was good. Stewart, look, the third goal.
00:23:17
Speaker
Yeah, Christian Ramirez, okay, big kid inside of the box. Maybe Stewie could have muscled him a little bit more, but, you know, Stewart was okay. And he's going to need to be okay because, you know, Jackson's two yellows and, you know, lack of, you know, suitable, you know, guys there.
00:23:36
Speaker
we're We're under it at center back position.
00:23:41
Speaker
All right, next question will go to Nico Moreno. Nico M, go ahead, please. Thank you, Brian. Look after a couple of results like the ones that you guys have had, you know, big decisions have to be made.
00:23:57
Speaker
And I was wondering and if in your opinion, these sort of results point more towards the depth or your top players having to do more? Is it leadership? You know, what is it that you maybe see and assess after these last two games?
00:24:12
Speaker
I think it's all of it, Nico. I think the big players, look, Albert had a motivated performance tonight. ah But, you know, he didn't score. You know, normally in games like this, you need your big guys to step up.
00:24:26
Speaker
You know that ball in the second half when it was still one one you know, he just plays them a ball and their goalkeeper makes a great save. Well, that's Jesus Ferreira and Albert. Those are our two, you know, best attacking players. And the ball maybe been a a little bobbly. Normally I've seen Albert score those.
00:24:44
Speaker
You know, we just have to make those plays. The young guys had come on. And, you know, we talked about Peter and, and and you know, Stuart.
Challenges for Young Players and Team Dynamics
00:24:55
Speaker
But, you know, Snyder's got to find his way back again. i think he's playing with a, you know, a little bit of lack of, you know,
00:25:04
Speaker
want to say this, he's a confident kid, but maybe he's just not you know, because the team's in a bad way, trying some of the things that I know he's capable of.
00:25:15
Speaker
You know, you've got Paul Rothrock, who's think still our leading scorer and needs to produce. He needs to get something. ah You know, we need our set pieces to be a little bit better.
00:25:28
Speaker
You know, and then you take about the talk about the experienced guys. You know, that second goal, that you know, like a draw would have been, you know, a point. But, you know, the ball goes out to the touchline and Paul Areola,
00:25:44
Speaker
You know, he can either clear the ball all the way up the field or he can just knock it against the opponent and we get a throw in and we we kill a game. It's the 88th minute.
00:25:55
Speaker
So I need everybody to do a little bit more. It's not, there's no class. I'm not putting any added pressure on the senior guys. That isn't unreasonable to their status in the group.
00:26:08
Speaker
And I'm trying to, you know, make sure I don't, come on too hard to the you know younger guys who need a little bit more seasoning and maybe a little bit more you know coaching and arm around their shoulder.
00:26:23
Speaker
Okay, Felipe and Makeda, we're gonna come to you next. Go ahead, please.
00:26:29
Speaker
Thank you, Coach Brian. It's a tough moment. How do you keep the guys um up so they don't they don't start mentally going down and this could develop another bad momentum for the team. And then my second question is, looks like the game developed more on the left side of the field.
00:26:54
Speaker
Was that a part of your plan or that was just how the game developed? That was how the game developed. You know, they had two very good attacking players on their right hand side, our left hand side. So it's give and take a little bit.
00:27:10
Speaker
You know, I think we were able to attack them down their right hand side, our left. But, you know, Paul has been one of our more influential players on the left hand side. And then as far as the guys are concerned, I mean, look, they're down, they're dejected, Felipe. But that, again,
00:27:26
Speaker
It's a resilient group. The IMR is in there providing some leadership. We got Steph Fry providing leadership. They're not going to quit. They're not going to give up. We've got two more homes hard road games, but they're not going to stop fighting.
00:27:43
Speaker
OK, I believe Matt, you have a question in the room there down in the Austin, so we'll throw to you quickly.
00:27:49
Speaker
thank but names bernardo on there for soundunders cast so for little today But I think Senator Hart reported that it Newhoo's 300th game. If you mark for the captain, see how you've evaluated his performance today.
00:28:01
Speaker
Well, look, that's a tricky question. Newhoo being the captain certainly has earned that. He's been here a long time. He's been a tremendous player for the club.
00:28:13
Speaker
But I think I can put him in the same category as some of the senior players that haven't stepped up. And, you know, tonight he was dealing with some cramping issues. He was dealing with some, you know, physical fatigue.
00:28:28
Speaker
But, you know, as a captain, you need to provide leadership and you need to power through, persevere, figure out a way. and so, you know, when I took him off, it was because they had just scored a second goal and we needed to put an attacking player on there.
00:28:42
Speaker
But, you know, some of his play early on, he's such a tremendous athlete. He has to help us as well.
00:28:50
Speaker
all right we'll take a couple more here on Zoom. Callahan, go ahead and ask your question, please. Thanks and patience. So Albert said the earlier that he thinks you know that maybe they should start focusing more on the results rather than on the the good play throughout game is this the games.
00:29:08
Speaker
Is this the right attitude that you're looking for looking for your players to have, or is this something that can that can be fraught with danger of like going on tilt during games or something like that? We had talked him about it before the game, so I'm glad he's still listening. We we talked about being hard to beat.
00:29:22
Speaker
you know Some of the dark guards you know at 1-1, closing the game out, slowing the tempo, you know falling over if they foul you, you know some of the yellow cards, the fouls, all that sort of stuff.
00:29:35
Speaker
We have to get back to being hard to beat and doing some of those things to continue to try and collect more points. ah but I certainly do not want to just become a team that that's the only thing they focus on We're a very talented soccer team right now. We're in a little bit a way, ah but when we get healthy and we get guys back and there's real competition, the group's going to respond.
00:30:04
Speaker
All right, follow-ups quickly. Nico Moreno, do you have one still? Yes, Coach, your take on... and You know Jackson Reagan you know he had already gotten that yellow he was potentially going to be out, but now he ends up getting that red, you know just what you saw out of that play in what were the conversation with him.
00:30:23
Speaker
I haven't had a conversation with him yet, but I will because it wasn't smart. right, we'll take two more Nico and to go ahead, please.
00:30:36
Speaker
Hi, Brian. i To kind of build off of Reagan's suspension with the recovering Yamar on top of the unavailability, how do you feel like the team must adapt in the back and approach these games, especially when it comes to building from the back line?
00:30:51
Speaker
Next, man, i has to step up. It has nothing to do with building out of the back. We might have start Tino Lopez and Stuart Hawkins. And it's a you know it's ah it's a young back line with not a ton of experience, but I know what those kids are gonna give me.
00:31:08
Speaker
They're gonna give me effort. They're gonna give me everything that they have. And we'll try and you know make sure we get the tactics right, that we don't put them in positions to fit. All right, Jeremiah, why don't take the last one, please.
00:31:22
Speaker
You know, this is a question I asked to Paul and I may as well, or Paul and Albert both answered this, but, you know, I posed the question of how do you keep this from snowballing? And Paul sort of said, one of the keys is to not talk about it snowballing, but to focus on sort of the positives of of like the positive outcome of that. And I'm just curious if there's anything you can do to sort of change that potential narrative, because it's, I can imagine it it can start to feel like a lot.
00:31:52
Speaker
Well, the team is to has too many senior players on it. I'm not Pollyannic. I am you know more reality-based. And so we will discuss the situation that we find ourselves in, try and find solutions to those problems, and continue to work.
00:32:13
Speaker
I think that's what ah Paul probably is saying in his own way. We can't shy away from the position that we're in. And, you know, we're going address it.
00:32:26
Speaker
We'll address it in a fashion where we give them, again, some ideas and some guidance and some confidence so that they can come out against Philadelphia and see if we can collect some points.
00:32:42
Speaker
Coach, thank you for your time. That concludes the Coach Mast Press Conference.
00:32:50
Speaker
There you have it from ah Brian Schmetzer, Albert Rusnak, and brought the I forgot lower my hand. Oh, classic, classic. but and i didn't it did i didn't I didn't realize it stayed up. i thought i thought it would have reset situation. i thought, so rookie maneuver over here. i think it's the it's the least everyone's collected.
00:33:10
Speaker
What did he say? He was like, I think he did. so I was like, i don't I didn't raise my hand. Sorry. And then he was like, bad I think he did. Oh, well, I think it sounded like I just left it up from the last round of questioning. I do that sometimes. So I guess, man, we got a lot to get to and then we got to take some calls. But before we take calls, I think I want to get a few more takes out there. Where do you want to start? Do you want to do presser takeaways? Did you hear what you wanted to hear? They're basically saying that bad, But I don't know. I don't really feel like there was much illuminated on either of those. What are you going to say? What are you going to say? I mean, you know, think it may have been notable if they would have thrown their hands up in the air and been like, we played well until the 80th minute.
00:34:10
Speaker
i was like There was there was a a little bit of that, but like it was it wasn't like that. They weren't planting their flag on that. yeah When you come off the performance against Portland, you know what? Fuck it. I'll give it to you.
00:34:24
Speaker
I'll give it to you. You can have it. You can have that one. You did play better than your worst game you've ever played in your entire history. So you're right about that. It's just a, okay, can I, can I just like, that is an admittedly low bar. And I want to just clarify because Reese, I saw you in chat, uh, giving me a hard time about the, uh, the underlying stats. The only reason that, uh, that I bring those up, it's, it's not to say that the loss doesn't count, okay?
00:34:52
Speaker
it's It's more just like if you're ah if we're honestly trying to assess if there was an actual baseline of competitive competitiveness coming off a 5-1 debacle against your biggest rival and then a game where the scoreline is three one like I realized that it doesn't matter and it's a low blow bar, but that would be the reason to, uh, to look at that and see if it's at least like, did they actually get totally worked and blown off the field or was there some sort of baseline of competitive fight? That's all I was getting at. Okay. so No, i i listen, I agree with you. I think that there's a situation. i test paired that out too, I think, free like tell melt until the melting until they melted down at the end. But yeah. like It doesn't count on the scoreline and you're still four losses in a row. But I'm also looking at
00:35:39
Speaker
heavily rotated squad, heavily injured squad, but at least they played with some fucking heart tonight. At least they were willing to go out there and play how they should have played against Portland. Now, does that change the problems that we were already talking about literally earlier this week? No, because it's the roster is so thin at this point. There's no there's no like attacking threat. you want talk about This is what I want to talk about first, Ari.
00:36:08
Speaker
Danny Musavsky, useless. Osaze de Rosario, useless. The number nine position as a whole, useless. they have the the The nine has not scored this entire season still.
00:36:21
Speaker
Still. Starting nine. Close tonight. Yeah, starting number nine. Yeah, okay, so let's... Close tonight. let's use that as a jumping off point because I wanted to talk about the lineup and how they came out set up tonight because ah when the starting 11 dropped, I was curious to see what it was going to look like. First of all, you know, is there going to be like message sending guys on the bench? Are you going to change the setup? I really wanted Pete Kingston to start this game. That was an agenda that I was on. So I was curious to see what it was going to look like. And then it comes out and ah you know, the first thing I look at is I'm looking at the double pivot and it's, Hassani Dotson and Snyder Brunel again. How well did that work out against the Portland Timbs?
00:37:04
Speaker
Famously bad. Famously bad. So um the first thing I'm thinking is like, man, like what I really wanted to see them do was put Peter Kingston in the double pivot with Snyder Brunel. I just feel like he can play that position and he's got more of that just like kind of energy and dirty work skillset. I don't know. That's just kind of the, I felt like you couldn't run that double pivot again, first of all. And then also I felt like Osaze should have been starting up top. Like he didn't like the world on fire against the Timbs, but he was one of the probably two guys on the entire team that like brought a little bit of energy at at one point when he came on. So, and, he and, you know, he's just, ah he's got a more dynamic skillset. Throw him out there. what do you have to lose? Like that, to me, it was like a no brainer that he should be starting. And then you can bring Moose on at 60 if it's not working instead of the other way. So I was like, why are they running the double pivot back? Why is Pete at right back instead of,
00:37:59
Speaker
in the as one of the center mids why is Osaze not starting so I came into this game like I don't I think this is a little bit of like banging our heads against the wall here like why would this work significantly better than it did against the Timbs to be fair it did work better but I don't know man I I would maybe I would have rather seen a change up thrown there what did think what did you think of the 11 what did you think of the 11 I felt exactly the same as you. I mean, i we I knew going into it. Well, sch Schmetzer said he was like, i I don't think that this is going to be the change in rotation that I would have really wanted coming off of that Portland
Impact of Injuries and Player Roles
00:38:36
Speaker
game.
00:38:36
Speaker
And I think there's a lot of reasons for that. And most of that is you have like literally five plus starters injured right now. So... People in the chat are saying, what happened to deepest roster in MLS?
00:38:49
Speaker
Everyone got injured. everyone like yeah Like legitimately the linchpin of your entire team injured his, his, his brother, his brother, who has been the most solid center back and, and wingback that you have injured. And then, you know, you're going down the list. You're going down the list. Your double pivot is just a mess. You know, your striker situation in shambles. I mean, what, what, what,
00:39:14
Speaker
Like, I don't know. I didn't know i didn't know what to expect. I honestly thought they were going to roll out the same lineup as as last time and just rock with it.
00:39:25
Speaker
That's especially what they did, yeah i guess, and except Kalani off the bench. And and Peter Kingston. And yeah, I don't know. i think I think I loved Peter Kingston in this game. I loved him a lot. I agree that thought he played pretty well.
00:39:42
Speaker
I am fully on board with your take. Put him higher up the field. Put him higher up the field. Absolutely. there's the thing Here's the thing about Pete Kingston, man. I think there's complacency going on on this team right now. Pete Kingston cannot afford to be complacent. He's still trying to make it. This is what I was kind of what I was thinking about coming off the Portland game is like...
00:40:01
Speaker
You know, we talk so much about the energy and the heart and the fight not being there. And there's just some guys on this team that have been on the team for so long. And like, is it like, can you get up for every single one of these Derbies when you're 10 years into it the same way you did when you were first starting out? You think the S2 fighting to make it version of Nuhu would ever came out like that in a Portland Timbs game at the beginning of his career? Hell no, man. He's trying to make it. He's trying to like break into the team and make his career. That's the exact thing.
00:40:30
Speaker
situation p kingston is in right now and that so that's why i was i'm like they need more of that type of energy and that's why you know stew hawks being out there tonight too that's another guy that's trip fighting to make it i think i thought you the fighting the fighting to make it guys should be out there yeah i know stew hawks played well he had a great time that set up the only goal help us set up the only goal and then i know i know he he he got scored on at the end but ah you know at that point and it was paul ariola's fault yeah you know You know, if we want to talk about a culprit in this game, Paul Arriola.
00:41:01
Speaker
Paul Arriola immediately comes on and plays some of the worst soccer I've ever seen in my life. Granted, he hasn't played a lot. I get it. I don't want to be rude. I like Paul Arriola. I like him as a person. He's ripped. He's also attractive.
00:41:14
Speaker
I got to be honest, this game... Put him on the trade block. well I don't want to see him. I don't want to see him. Those two goals lay at his feet. ah An absolutely idiotic, stupid, dumb, dumb and dumber, stupid turnover that leads to that, that first, that the, the gold, the go ahead goal. And then the second goal, just absolutely like, what are you, doing what, what are you doing? What are you doing on that defensive play? Just awful.
00:41:47
Speaker
Awful, awful, awful, awful. And he has done, he has had two good games this season, and we we just haven't played him. He got hurt at one point. What are we doing with that? What are we doing with that?
00:42:00
Speaker
What are we doing with that? i I don't know. That was that was frustrating because exactly like Schmetz said in the presser, it's like, dude, either boot it as far as you can, yeet it, or hit it off the guy and get the throw in and just close the game out. That's what you guys are trying to do anyway. You guys just delayed the game for 12 minutes fighting about like a possession dispute to try and salt the game. Yeah.
00:42:22
Speaker
See it out. Get the 1-1. Leave with the points. That's exactly you're saying. It's the Peter Kingstons. It's it's it's the Stu Hawkins. It's the Paul Rothrocks of the world who have the dog in them, who are like, this could be my last game. I'm throwing everything out there. It felt like, to me, you're seeing Paul Areola come on the field, be like, oh, I'm so excited. Guys, I'm back. Guys, I'm back.
00:42:47
Speaker
Guys, I'm getting my minutes to come back. Oh, sorry. Sorry, i don't I don't need to cut you off. I don't mean to cut you off. But do you guys want to feel just a little bit better? Just a little bit better? not It's not going to salvage the situation, but for whatever it's worth, the Portland Timbies just gave up an 88th-minute game winner to FC Dallas at Providence Park. So it's nice to see them get taken
Comparing Rival Teams' Performances
00:43:09
Speaker
back. They thought they were on to something after after waxing this. um This zombie squad, they thought they were going to use it to springboard their season. They go home. They got FC Dallas next. They're ready to get it rolling. They just hired a coach, and they just got bammed on in the 88th minute at Providence Park. Oh, my God.
00:43:27
Speaker
And you know what? To celebrate that, let's thank our – we had some questions rolling here while we did that. Or 30 gems. This is a new YouTube thing. I don't know what it is, but give us gems. we're gonna We'll take all of um your new gems. Let's do the gems. Let's take the gems.
00:43:43
Speaker
But thank you, James. And here, question from Curtis Chad, 199. Thank you for big roller here. Curtis, Jesus fan, but where the F is he at? Yeah, we can talk about that. I agree with you.
00:43:56
Speaker
He had a quiet game, but his stats looked good. So, guys, stat sheet, guys. Well, in all in all seriousness, I feel like with him right now, at least in this game, but even in a couple instances in the Portland game, he'll have like – an individual moment or two where you're like, oh, nice pass. Or like, oh, that was a nice play. Like in the Portland game when he set up Kalani with the dummy, I was like, that was a nice play. Tonight he had like a nice pass like, oh, Jesus kind of looks like he's doing this.
00:44:20
Speaker
He was wide open and should have had a ball. Snyder missed him. Yeah, that was a frustrating one too. So like, but like, that's what I mean. There's like a moment like that where you're like, oh, see he's he was in the right spot. That was a good run. But it's like, he's not being consistently influential enough right now.
00:44:37
Speaker
So I agree. And now we're back at the, now we're back at the, like is Ken and Jesus and Ken Jesus. And i I don't even, I don't even care. Moving on. Next question here. Jake got us with the, when does gam make their debut? Never.
00:44:56
Speaker
Yeah, never. What do you mean? They're not gonna spend it. No, no, no, no. They're going to let the game expire. Like, you know, the coupon that you like, or the gift card that you keep in your wallet, and but you like go to that store, you buy things like every week and you're like, fuck, I got to use that gift card.
00:45:10
Speaker
Fuck. I got to use that. get They're never spending that. Good luck. And then another dude, we just got 750 gems. Come on What is a gem? it's some dens Can we turn that into the money? like Give it to us.
00:45:26
Speaker
I feel like I'm a i'm a like a little... You know the little... Oh, what's that? Minecraft. Minecraft. Why did I just totally blank on Minecraft? I'm a little Minecraft guy. ah I don't know. Oh, we got more gems. Oh my God. Mr. Jake. There better be like a utility for gems. Dude, we're going to, we're going to, we're going to bring gems back into your community.
00:45:51
Speaker
This is, we will redistribute all of the gems. Let's, let's, let's jump back into finishing talks about the Paul Areola debate. And I also want to get your takes on Hassani Dotson, because I think we were both very critical of him. And I want to know what your take was on his performance in this match. Ari.
00:46:11
Speaker
Not good. Like, i mean, I don't i don't know. but i'm Kind of in that, like, technically better than the Portland game, I guess. But what does that really get you Bucket?
00:46:23
Speaker
Yeah. is Is that fair? I don't know. like I agree with you. It's like... Wow, thank you. I'm so glad we're paying $800,000 a season for this guy. Really great signing. um we You know what's next about that? Let's eat our crow on that. let's That's what I was going to say.
00:46:41
Speaker
mean thought that was a cook, and we were wrong. And we were wrong. I was wrong. And, you know, I think to be fair to us, like we we watch a lot more of the of the whole league than most people. And so when we see a guy who has played well for a previous team such as Jesus Ferreira or Hassani Dotson, maybe we make the natural tendency to be like, oh, well that's for sure going to translate Jesus Ferreira.
00:47:07
Speaker
bank 50 60 goals for fc dallas why would he not be productive in seattle oh hasani dots and he was like a upper tier probably he was probably top 10 in that position at at points uh for minnesota united is that like a exaggeration like i think he was considered like an all-star level player for them i would say during by the way lost to sporting kansas city today there was a minnesota united fan in my mentions earlier who like literally stalks me and just tries to like send me every time the Sounders do bad, but they're a Minnesota fan. And it's like, brother, look in the mirror. You just lost a sport in Kansas city. Oh, Portland equalizer. God damn it. I know i my bad. I mean, whatever. It's a home draw versus FC Dallas. That's not like a and incredible result.
00:47:53
Speaker
Yeah. But we can't have anything. We can't have anything right now. We can't have anything. These gems are going to go to the Beat Portland Fund. 30 gems and 10 gems and 10 more gems. Gold coin.
00:48:07
Speaker
This one's a silver star. We got a silver star and gems. 10 gems GG. Thanks for the gem. Thanks the gem. Thanks for the gem. You know those, like, TikTok streamers, Ari? you know you know do you know about that?
00:48:20
Speaker
i don't know what's going on with the gems. I don't know what's going on with TikTok. I don't know. All right. Where were we? were talking about Hassani Dodson. We were talking about...
Recurring Late Goal Issues
00:48:33
Speaker
Let's just do this really quickly. Okay?
00:48:39
Speaker
let's look at the next few matches that we have to play. And I want to play a little game called winner loss or draw because this is not going be fun. Is it? I, I, you know, i think that Brian's, you know, big talk, the whole spiraling situation, I guess that Jeremiah was bringing up. Should we talk about that a little more? Like, like, dude, I, they were literally five minutes.
00:49:01
Speaker
Yeah, they were they were five minutes from one wanting that. And if they had one that I don't think the vibes on this show would be incredible. They would not be. I definitely would not be sitting here talking about how how back they are. But like I could have at least diluted myself into the mental gymnastics of like, you know, a one one at Austin under normal circumstances, which these are not normal circumstances because you just got five one by your biggest rival at home. But under normal circumstances, do I take a 1-1 at Austin in July when it's 127 degrees? Hell yeah, I do. And they looked more competitive in the game. or They were way more competitive in the game to be able to get a draw on the road like we're used to seeing a Sounders team be able to do. So like I could have done those mental gymnastics if they had just 1-1 that. But then they they get bammed on for the two one and then bammed on again for the 3-1. And then they get a red card to bring the crash out red card red card boys back.
00:49:54
Speaker
What the hell, man? What the hell was that? And listen, I understand you've got to press for goals. You've got to press for a goal. Like, I get it. I totally get it. I get the game plan. I respect it.
00:50:07
Speaker
But at the same time, what happened? You put in Paul Arreola to press for goals, and then that that decision directly translated into those two concessions. You changed up your whole formation, made a bunch of weird substitutions, shifted everything around. Every time Brian does that late in the game, pushes for a goal, this shit always happens.
00:50:29
Speaker
This shit always happens. Get me in that assistant coach locker room. We're not doing that anymore. We're done with that bit. Bad bit. Bad bit. And then Jackson Reagan. Listen, I appreciate it his teammates defending him. I appreciate Brian being understanding.
00:50:47
Speaker
That's dumb. That's dangerous. That's a dirty play. And frankly, I don't want a Sounders player doing that. And now you have a target on your head when you come back because everyone in the league saw what you did and it was stupid as fuck. That was stupid.
00:51:02
Speaker
New who? ah Yes, new who? No red card. New who? Captain's armband. The only one who seemingly was calm, cool, and collected.
00:51:14
Speaker
Jackson Reagan crash out before a new who crash out? it's yeah I do fear we are spiraling to a point in which... I don't know if it's going That's the type of stuff that happens when you're spiraling. i don't know i don I don't know if we can say that it's a confirmed spiral after two games, but if they are going to spiral, this is exactly what they would do to precursor the spiral.
00:51:38
Speaker
Yeah. So I'll say that. Let's do these games really quick. Then we're going to get to the most recent donations, and then we will open up calls. We know people are ready to call, but we're just going to do this really quick.
00:51:51
Speaker
away at philadelphia union philadelphia union who just played a match in 131 against the new york red bulls how are we feeling on that i mean dude like i just who's even gonna play man like you got stew hoffs suspended jackson reagan suspended knew who looked like he was playing through a knock like at the end of that game here he Maybe he was just cramping, but he was not moving well. Like, I don't think he's going to be 100% for this game. But either way... Game might be back, maybe? Even if he is, like, first game back, I think... I will say, just real quick on that, I think that has...
00:52:29
Speaker
kind of roiled this team a lot more than we probably yeah thought or hoped it would. And CB was thin going into the year and you had, you have, you know what guys um i was sureed you have Mr. Whitehouse going to Washington DC and now he's not even playing. So what, that mean I mean, this is what happens.
00:52:48
Speaker
I was told that, you know, going to the White House was more important than rehabbing. I was told, you know, maybe we should be focusing on on soccer instead of Washington, D.C. And you know what? I'm just going to say it.
00:53:01
Speaker
You know who didn't win the World Cup after going to the White House? Leo Messi. I'm just saying we got to think about it. Everything he touches turns to trash. Regardless of that, then additionally, you're like, what if we re re-signed 48-year-old Kim Keehee who already has an injury history and has already been injured and struggling with it?
00:53:20
Speaker
Guys, we have CB depth, I swear.
00:53:26
Speaker
Yeah, well, and so I will say... ah Stu Hodge, my confidence in Stu Hodge. Yes, this is good take. This is a good take. He was on the bench tonight, and I was hoping he would get in. Play him. I have it on record. him san It's sadness. Yeah.
00:53:42
Speaker
sadness sadness yeah He, on record from other players who play with him, say he is it. He is him. I asked one of a couple of Defiance players who who they played with that they thought was the best, like up-and-comer.
00:53:57
Speaker
Both of them said that they're Gal Glazers. Oh, there's a lot of Gal Glazers. You never know what to make of that when you hear like stuff like that, but that when you do hear that said, it is notable. Yeah.
00:54:10
Speaker
so So, yeah, no, I put him out there. I mean, Schmetz all but said that he's putting ah the Tino Lopez, Stu Hawks pairing out there, which honestly, I'm kind of down at this point. yeah You know, if jackson if Jackson Reagan wants to crash out red card and give one of these young guys a chance while they're kind of punting games right now anyway, like not – intentionally punting, but it's like, what chance do they really have to go across the country to the Philly union who are been one of the worst teams in the league, but look better. And, uh, one, three, one today. Like, I don't know.
Road Game Challenges and Defensive Strategies
00:54:41
Speaker
All right. So, Sadness and um Tino Lopez center her back with Stu Hawk as the substitute. This is one of those MLS road games. And it's really unfortunate that it's timed right now while all the rest of this is going on. this is It's three days away.
00:54:58
Speaker
This. This one of those this is one of those and MLS road games where every year, no matter how good or bad the team is, there are a couple where you look at the injury situation and you look at the travel situation and you look at the form of the opponent and you kind of know what's going to happen before it even happens. And this is one of those games where like obviously no one in the organization and the coaches and the players would never like this would never happen. But from where I sit, knowing how these things go, it's like, dude, just don't even like fly out there, man.
00:55:24
Speaker
yeah Like, there's nothing to be gained. but there would be It's going to be a game where you realize... The only thing I will say with that is that it has happened to me a lot of times where I felt like that going into a game, even a big road game like this, and then they, like, go out and win. They've got to do it. It's MLS, but... they're going to deploy it, if there was ever a time to deploy it, Ari...
00:55:52
Speaker
Take a note out of someone who is banned from the state of Washington from my house, Mr. Haram ball himself.
00:56:04
Speaker
You go to Philly. And you know what you do? You pack it back. You troll. You troll that nil-nil. You pass that ball. You do't you just bunker.
00:56:17
Speaker
Just bunker. I don't think that's going to work. I get what you're saying. ari I get what you're saying. All right, we'll chalk it up as a loss. We'll chalk it up as a loss. Okay. Chalked up as a loss, we return back to the beautiful Pacific Northwest for an August 1st matchup at Providence Park against the Portland Timbers.
00:56:39
Speaker
Hmm. How are we feeling about that? Not great. Definitely not positive given how the last game went. Uh... I mean, if I were to try and make the case for their chances in that game, it would be that, number one, like it's got to be seared into their minds. You would think that they cannot do what they did the last time they played the Portland Timbs. So base maybe from that, there's just more of a baseline of – like playing up to the occasion more. And then what do we talk about all the time in the other direction? These Darby games, it doesn't matter what type of form that you are in the Portland Timbs have been in worse way than this a lot of times and beat the Seattle Sounders. A lot of times we just saw it happen. They were at one, 1.0 points per game and then came into Lumen field and five, one Seattle. So, yeah ah you know, stuff like that can always happen. I guess I don't know how likely I think that is, But like the Timbs do that ah all the time. So why can't Seattle do it? It's just a role reversal because the Timbs are the ones usually limping around. And now Seattle is the one limping around. So so you're chalking that up as a draw, right? A nil-nil draw.
00:57:56
Speaker
I think like it's probably an L. Okay, all right, double L. Okay, we're good we're on to our sorry, I'm sorry. we We're on to our sixth consecutive L. Brian Schmetzer is rolling his boys into League's Cup as defending champions where they scored a Puskas-nominated goal, dominated the champions of CONCACAF, but they have to fly down to the big, bad Toluca team.
00:58:22
Speaker
and play the first ever away game in League's Cup history. Ari, how are we feeling?
League's Cup Match Preparations and Expectations
00:58:30
Speaker
Seattle Sounders versus Toluca opening match of their League's Cup campaign.
00:58:41
Speaker
That's just, it's not... gonna good the only The only thing I want to see with that is, like, you know, does i um does Yamar get back? Does Christian get back? Does Pedro de la Vega get back? You know?
00:58:53
Speaker
ah Because if guys actually start coming back, I think it does. That would improve their chances, would it not? Like, this team without Christian Roldan and without Yamar and without...
00:59:05
Speaker
Dave La Vega on top of that. I know they were already without him, but like you throw the Christian thing on top of that. And then, like I was saying earlier, maybe we can talk about it a little more. The Yamar thing I think is kind of hovering over all of this in a way that I think really...
00:59:21
Speaker
has had a big impact. So, you know, if you, if you actually get those guys back, like Schmetz was saying, maybe you can pull a result there. I don't know, but it's just, it's really hard to predict anything other than L's in any of these games right now. Maybe that's emotional, but like, I mean, I think we've been chalking up this Toluca away game as an, yeah I was chalking that up before, before they started spiraling.
00:59:42
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. And we have no timeline for Pedro. We don't know. And from what we do know about when he does come back, they will be absolutely slow rolling him back into the squad. So even if he is back by that game, he's not playing 90 minutes.
00:59:59
Speaker
Who knows if he's playing 45 minutes? Who knows what he looks like there? Finally, Ari, oh we've done our away stretch. We're back home, and we get to play two matches at Lumen Field.
01:00:14
Speaker
Quintero and Chivas. Chivas... is a very good team. They also most likely will pack out Lumen Field at this point, as the Sounders, in your estimation, will be like seven losses in. um They will probably outnumber the Sounders fans, and it will be a Chivas home game. And Quintero is, you know, I don't even know where they finished last season. um But let's see where they finish.
01:00:42
Speaker
They finished... 12th. They're a mid-table team. They're a mid-table team. They're not better than Cruz Azul of last year. No. So, you know, maybe, like, honestly, ah at that point, they should be a little bit healthier, you would think. And they have a good recent track record against Liga Mechies teams at home. Sorry, guys. i'm not reading the name right. My bad.
01:01:09
Speaker
Kentaro. Kentaro, my bad, guys. Kentaro. My bad. Yeah, i was like, are you talking about Darwin Kentaro? Yeah, that's literally what was in my head was Darwin Kentaro. Okay, so this is this is ah this is where we can talk about some potential cope. Like, do you think that there is ah any path? And I'm just asking the question. Do you think there is a path...
01:01:31
Speaker
Like when Christian gets back and when Yamar gets back specifically, and maybe you get Alex rolled on back at some point, like can, can an improved bill of health help the situation to the point where, you know, maybe they're not a shield contending pace, but they're closer to the team that we saw in the first part of the season than whatever we're watching right now.
01:01:54
Speaker
Yeah. um Before I address that, everyone's telling me how to pronounce the name in the chat. And I believe they're saying that it's Kesarito. Kesarito. KC Keller.
01:02:05
Speaker
KC Keller. So thank you guys for helping me out in the chat there. I really appreciate that. I don't know, Ari. i really don't know. i like I...
01:02:17
Speaker
I feel I hate to be a Doomer. Like, I like to get the Doomers out on this show here. But it's really hard to look at any of this and feel good.
01:02:30
Speaker
or Or that, like, you you pull back a match and, like, something happens. Or, like, you make us I mean, I guess they could sign someone. I mean, come on. Come on. Like, yeah. They did really do Super Nome though, Ari. they they re reallyd They got an international spot now. Do you think that that was foreshadowing something?
01:02:51
Speaker
I can't wait for an interleague transfer. That's going to be awesome. Yeah. Yeah. When they trade, they'll trade like, ah they'll be like, Maybe they could trade Hassani
Fan Engagement and Open Call-In Session
01:03:03
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Dotson. I don't know.
01:03:05
Speaker
I don't know. I have no clue. But should we should we put the call link out? Should we take calls? i feel like Unless you had anything else you wanted to hit. No, I don't care. i don't care about Austin FC. Drops the link. let me Let me pin it as well. But jump on in here and we'll we'll take your calls. Let's get it over with. do Let's do it. Let's do it. Call in Call in.
01:03:33
Speaker
All right, we got Tribe, we got Kenny, we got the usual suspects here to lead it off. Can't wait to hear what you, the people, have to say after another Seattle Sounders L. All right, we get let's get let's get a Tribe in here first.
01:03:50
Speaker
Tribe, what's up, man? Another L at Austin FC. The squad is spiraling. The crash-out red card boys are back. It's bad, my brother. How are you doing? What do you think?
01:04:01
Speaker
Well, I'm so fucking stressed. I have 12 wads of gum in my mouth right now. I can't even chew properly. My my jaw feels like it's going to break. um I am extraordinarily pissed off. on her for Sorry. either Wait, can just put it right here. Yeah, okay.
01:04:17
Speaker
I am extraordinarily... absolute ball knowledge from you. I am extraordinarily pissed off. Jackson Reagan, man, he's but he's our best defender. What are we doing? We're going to lose the game anyways. You can't be doing a red card stopping a counterattack challenge when you're already on a yellow card.
01:04:35
Speaker
That is completely irresponsible, horrible, stupid. Shame on him. hang He needs to hang his head in shame. Honestly, it's very, very poor. I'm pissed at Paul Arriola, who when he first played...
01:04:47
Speaker
His games with the Sounders in those Champions League matches a year ago looked like the best player on the field. We thought we were going a miscatch you. He's gone downhill from there completely. And you can see it in the turnovers and in the misplays.
01:05:02
Speaker
I just feel like we need to desperately sign someone. Everyone's been saying this. There's there's nothing coming out of the ownership or Craig Weibel. Nothing. Nothing. We're not getting anything. And and now we're going to a Caleb crash out because now we're linked to Xavier Gozo's brother something like that. He did train.
01:05:24
Speaker
He did trade with us. Yeah. Yeah. We're going have a full on Caleb crash out. the whole god let's His Caleb did donate. We have a ton of donations that I forgot to get to, but I'll just, I'm going to do Caleb's really quick because go for did he did say, he said, say the letters.
01:05:38
Speaker
Same drop. No, you guys need to get him in here. What an absolute legend he is. But It's just poor. i don't see a way forward if we're not going to be an ambitious club in the transfer market. And it's hit or miss with these young new players. It really is.
01:06:01
Speaker
That's just what you're going to get. You're going to get hit or miss. It's the same with transfers, but it takes time to develop players. We don't really have time with what we're seeing right now from this team. So I'm a little bit worried about about how how we're going to look moving forward, especially with all these injuries as well.
01:06:21
Speaker
I completely agree. Hassani Dotson, what do we do with him? I don't know, man. I mean, fucking send him to Burger King, make him work and use his paycheck to buy someone.
01:06:35
Speaker
I don't know. Honestly, he he's a he used to be a good player. A really good, solid midfielded defensive midfielder um for Minnesota United.
01:06:47
Speaker
Now it's just, I don't know. It's, it's weird. We got, we signed these players who were top of the league at one point and in our system, they don't seem to be the same. I don't understand it. It it is a system that, that requires a certain type of player.
01:07:05
Speaker
It's a very different system from, from what Jesus prayer was doing at, at FC Dallas from Hassani Dotson, Minnesota. But you would think that these players could adapt a little bit better. Not Jesus. He's a great player still, but Hassani Dotson hasn't really seemed to be him himself, his Minnesota United self.
01:07:22
Speaker
I completely agree. And this is my this is my final question for you, Tribe. When you see that there's only 60 people that have liked the video, but we do have 280 people watching, I mean, what goes through your
Coaching and Management Criticisms
01:07:34
Speaker
head? Because like what goes through my head is that it is it is despicable. It's disgraceful. it's It's like, what are you doing? you're You're mooching without giving us a free like. What are we doing here? you know that's's I'd love to hear what your take is on that.
01:07:49
Speaker
It's called loitering, window shopping. It's poor. It is poor from the public. Shame on all of you. Let's hit that like button. Shame all of Red card. Red card to the public. Crash out red card.
01:08:04
Speaker
Absolutely. Send them all off to fucking... we let's Let's send them over to... Who's a fucking talk in the woods? Send him over to them. He he can deal with them. We don't care. It wasn't a hidden bonus. bonus. it what is a Hidden bonus likes the video. But Tribe, what are your final takeaways before we move on to Kenny here next on the call? I don't have any final takeaways ah because I am so pissed. if i As Jose Mourinho once said, if I speak, I will be in trouble. So um I absolutely wish you guys the best with this stream.
01:08:38
Speaker
Hopefully I'll see you in the next one if I'm not busy. And yeah, absolutely love you guys. Thanks, Tribe. No worries. Cheers.
01:08:46
Speaker
All right. Should we hit these, ah the rest the Super Chats? Yeah, Kenny, we're going to these Super Chats real quick because there's like 7 billion of them. We got 10 gems from Sounder74. Press F, Ari. Press F. Can someone... It's like a little thingy it does a little thingy on the screen and like, guys, send some gems so Ari can see what it looks like. I just press F?
01:09:06
Speaker
No, it's a joke. Guys, he doesn't get it. Guys, everyone make fun of him in chat. He doesn't get it. He doesn't get it. it's He doesn't get it. And then Chicken8boy says, why did Schmetz get a yellow? I don't know. poor That's what I should have asked with my question.
01:09:26
Speaker
Why did you get a yellow? Yeah, oh man, forgot. forgot i absolutely fumbled that. i will figure out. I think he was just letting the ref have it. Schmetz usually never does that. It is it is interesting. that I think you know it's like I'm trying to give the boys a jolt type of thing.
01:09:41
Speaker
Didn't really work. Yeah. Yeah. And we got 20 bones from Bellboy Brady. He seems scared to shoot past two opportunities in front of goal. That's a good take. And I completely agree. he He's been too passive his whole time on this team. I think like he's too deferential, man. It's like you have 60 plus MLS goals to shoot brother. Like he said that he said that he feels snake, but he feels like he's he's overthinking it. He's over. You got to do it, dude. He's got to get you. gotta just You just got to throw caution to the wind and let the chips fall where they may. Just shoot.
01:10:14
Speaker
It's like when you're playing in rec soccer league and you're just like, yeah, fucking I'm gonna blast it from midfield. Who cares? Who cares? You'll get another opportunity. Like what is this professional soccer at the highest level where when you shoot and miss the target a bunch of times, you have a live stream full of 500 people complaining about you. It's like, come on, bro. Just shoot the ball. um Next up we have roar.
01:10:37
Speaker
Was Thomas a false messiah? I don't really think Andrew Thomas has been bad in any of these games, but maybe I'm wrong. I i thought in the Portland game, there was there was a couple where he didn't like help the situation.
01:10:53
Speaker
Sure. But i don't i don't know I don't know if I'm ready to like put him on. i'm not I'm not ready to put him on fraud watch. like back i been so Yeah, I think the the goals that they've been conceding are a lot more due to the Bad News Bears defense than the goalkeeper, but that's that's how I see it. Yeah, I feel like it's that center defensive mid-breakdown where they're just able to open up and spread the defense like crazy. yeah i think that that's more of a problem than Andrew Thomas not being able to like make a crazy save. But hey...
01:11:20
Speaker
we'll We'll keep him on watch. He's on watch. He's on watch now. We got Derek, 19 months. Ufta, yes, Ballard FC is playing soon. Shout out to them. And shout out to Salmon Bay, national champions. Dusty Potato says, when we lose in Philly, does Brian still have a job when he gets back to Seattle? Should we talk about if he's should we talk about if he's on the seat of heat? we basically should we Should we bring Kenny in to talk about it?
01:11:47
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, kenny Kenny. Kenny's ready to talk. Kenny, do we think Brian Schmetzer's on the hot seat? You you take it from here. He's got to be. he's good Well, okay, I have a crazy conspiracy theory.
01:12:03
Speaker
um I think Brian is still experiencing some health issues, and they're not going fire him in this season.
01:12:16
Speaker
Like... They're not like, like, wasn't he getting like biopsies and stuff for like, uh, under his eye, all that bruising and stuff.
01:12:27
Speaker
I don't remember like what the specifics of it, but there was, so there was something yeah like that. but Exactly. Anyway, maybe it's just cause I saw him on like the Kansas on the Providence commercial after the game, you know, got me worried about our old, old, old, old old coach.
01:12:43
Speaker
Yeah. Uh, But this is this game, you know, what a what a letdown. You know, yeah we heard all week how b Brian says he's not eating and he's not shaving. Maybe he should shave and eat.
01:12:55
Speaker
He was a little angry, I think, is barking at the referee. And it rubbed off on Jackson Reagan. Jackson, low IQ, ah ignorant, thug, stereotypical, angry white man.
01:13:10
Speaker
um Stay away from Nuhu with that bad energy. Don't breathe. um Let's talk about some positives. Rothrock scored from his knees. He dropped to his knees. it all this All this team has right now, all this team has and on offense is Paul Rothrock at the far post. There is no other way this team can score. it It's one strat. They have one strat. Actually, to be fair, kind of works, but it's not enough, unfortunately. You have to be able to score in more than one way.
01:13:44
Speaker
The alley-oop off the backboard. Snyder Brunell and Pete King. king that was it was it It was a genuinely sick goal, I will say that. yeah yeah It was nice to see them like slice and dice a defense like the Seattle Sounders again just for one fleeting moment.
01:13:58
Speaker
Slice and dice the defense. Snyder B, I feel bad for him. He snake bit. he He hits it off the post. But then it's like it falls the right to Pauly primetime. Exactly. That's your classic Seattle Sounders goal. I wasn't ready to say we were back in that moment, but I was like, you know, that was... That was at least nice to watch.
01:14:16
Speaker
And then, you know, yeah we were decent in the first half. We were hanging in there. Reagan was quite good in the first half. I mean, he was solid. He was winning all his head. I thought the pullback line looked pretty good. The defense was okay. It was the set piece goal. But other than that, Austin didn't really have anything. Well, on.
01:14:34
Speaker
Let's slow down just a tiny bit there. um So, so um I think it was, it was shortly before halftime. So yeah, getting towards the end of the half. So for like 40 minutes, the defense was really good. And then ah Pete Kingston gets spun really bad. He, he's kind of like um kind of a jockeying the space and goes in behind him and he has to spin really quick. He just gets completely turned, skinned inside out from the passing and he recovers. And then,
01:15:04
Speaker
I think that's when Andrew Thomas makes a pretty good save from inside the box. And um then Hassani Dotson has it and he's looking for his outlet and he dishes it immediately to, it's just, you know, a hospital ball.
01:15:18
Speaker
And um the, the tax coming right back down our, our, our, our the central center of our defense. And, you know, if that leads to a goal, then we're talking even more about Hassani's performance. And, you know, I'm a two, five, three guy. I still believe in him. You know, he's got that dog in him just like we all do down here. Um, and he can still come good, but you know, i don't know if he's still got some lingering issues from his past injuries, you know, and and another Washington guy we've signed who has past injuries. And, um,
01:15:52
Speaker
You know, it's getting to be a lot. We only had six outfield players on the bench again. And
01:15:59
Speaker
yeah, I thought the defense was completely fell apart in the second half.
01:16:06
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. ah any any other Any other takes? um Captain Nuhu, I mean, I just wanted to i mean already highlighted Captain Nuhu, holding it down. Saw a lot of people crashing out about Nuhu. He had that sequence at the end where he cramped up, they made him get off the field, and then he ran all the way up.
01:16:30
Speaker
Honestly, that was the best part of the game. That was the best part the No, but it made sense because the ref was like, you can't come back in. And so he was like, oh, I guess I can't come in right here. I have to walk all the way around. Schmetz was literally like, Nuhu, what the fuck are you doing? And he was like, he was like trying That might have been why he got the yellow. might have been. no no the yellow was way before that but like he was yelling at new who and you knew who was trying to like yell back to explain what what he was thinking but it's like dude at this point just go back on get your ass back just go god gotta love him 300 games for new who i don't think we're making a big enough deal about that um you know he came here as a teenager from you know central africa you know um
01:17:16
Speaker
Barely any professional experience. He came up through the race. Didn't know how to use Uber, famously. Didn't know how to use Uber. Yeah, yeah. I mean, you know, just complete culture shock, and it's a testament to our system and our development and to his, you know, resilience and his, you know, positivity and attitude as a player, all these setbacks he's faced.
01:17:36
Speaker
You know, a lot of people could have, like, ran away from this club. You know, don't want an old strict manager, you know, go get paid more. with having more freedom, but, you know, he's changed his life around in some ways. I'm pretty sure he's still at the clubs in Capitol Hill, man, but he's not eating the spicy chicken and so much. So, um you know, I'm just so fucking proud of New Who, man. And and yeah I still believe in his team. I believe in a lot of these players, you know. Let's get our let's get our best defender, our best midfielder, and our best attacker back on the field.
01:18:14
Speaker
fucking pray because there's no help coming guys there's no help coming you you're getting you're getting cody phoenix and uh and you're getting um pedro de la vega is the new signing it is the same thing as a new signing be grateful it's gonna be a fall signing not a summer signing he's the fall reinforcement he is a fall signing yeah we'll get him for 15 minutes and then 20 minutes and then 30 then and then he'll be injured again and then it'll be the off season and Then we'll get notes. All right, guys, you got a long call list, I bet. Thank you. All right.
01:18:46
Speaker
Bye, Kenny. Good stuff, man. come on Tim said, does the 300 games play into the tattoo wager? No. He's still listening. He's still on it. He can still get a crash out red card, guys. And I won't have to get the new whoo- related tattoo.
01:19:01
Speaker
James, before we grab you, I just wanted to do the Brian Schmetzer hot seat takes quickly from both of us. Ari, where do you sit on it? I would say that it feels like a situation where like not yet in the sense that, you know, say, say there is,
01:19:19
Speaker
a reality where they go pick up a nice win in Philly and then they come back and they, you know, maybe they don't beat Portland, but they take a hard fought draw and then they take an unexpected W in leagues. Cause like, I think there's still things that could happen that temper that conversation, but it's like they have, they have started on a path where if they continue on said path, then that is the going to be the result at the end of the path.
01:19:44
Speaker
that Does that make sense? Yeah, if Brian Schmetzer gets fired, um it's a cop-out firing because the issues that this team is having have nothing to do with Brian Schmetzer. Has he made some, like, maybe poor managerial decisions at certain junctures?
01:20:02
Speaker
ah Sure, absolutely. So has every coach. But bringing in a new coach is not going to solve the problem that you literally had six fucking players on your bench tonight. That you were starting multiple teenagers who have under 100 minutes in MLS. Like, well okay don't I don't know how that's Brian Schmetzer's fault.
01:20:23
Speaker
Maybe he should be advocating for more players, but like... I don't know. I don't, I don't know. Let me, let me play the devil's advocate real quick and then we can get James in here and get ah his take. But I think the devil's advocate would be like, I think what you're saying is true. It's not like the issues at hand are fully to do with the coach, but I think the argument would be like stagnation. Like when you, and when when we, you know, we were talking to Kenny on the last Colin show and he was like making the late stage Pete Carroll analogy. I think that would be the argument. Like, it's like,
01:20:53
Speaker
Sometimes you've just been in a place for so long that it starts to you don't have like the same magic that you used to. You don't your message isn't landing like it used to. And once you get in those situations, you can still be a great go to coach, but maybe like new ideas, new energy, new blood, you can make an argument for it.
01:21:13
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, if you were willing to commit to a rebuild and you were willing to actually have some momentum, but it's like, dude, what's the point? of Like, like yeah that's not going to happen. So you're just going to toss a new coach into a pool of players that's been there?
01:21:26
Speaker
Like, that's not going to change their talent. Yeah, teams that try to do that, it usually doesn't go that well. It doesn't work. like It's like waving the white flag. But yeah, all that's good talking let's get James. James, you ready to go?
01:21:37
Speaker
yeah All right. James. Oh, you're echoing the word. Oh, you're echoing the word. Oh, sorry about that. I think you have our stream open. I didn't. I don't think I do.
01:21:51
Speaker
but i good It's your phone. You cook. We'll be quiet. All right. Regarding Schmetzer, I don't think he's on the hot seat if for no other reason than Hanauer can't afford to fire him.
01:22:03
Speaker
And I think that deep down, Hanauer knows that he can't hire anybody better. You know, you go from the consensus best GM in Garth Lagerwey to an idiot in Craig Weibel.
01:22:14
Speaker
and he doesn't want to do that with the manager. And everybody knows that the real problems are that the owner won't spend and that the GM can't sign good players. So firing the icon of Seattle soccer is not going to go over well.
01:22:27
Speaker
With that being said, Brian needs to change. Okay. I don't think he's ever been a tactical genius. He's not a guy who springs these clever counter moves to depending on the opponent.
01:22:41
Speaker
he He's always been a guy who takes a 4-2-3-1, puts his best players in it, and where his real genius is is in motivating people, he gets them ready to run through a brick wall, and ah that's not going to work anymore. He doesn't have the player quality to just put his best players out there.
01:23:00
Speaker
And so, you know, I looked at this before the game, and I said, well, what are some things that he can do to sort of counter the problems we've saw against Portland, you know, the Swiss cheese midfield? And I'm thinking of all these things like, You know, there's a 4-4-2 diamond. You can kind of divide the midfield up a bit more so people aren't roaming so much.
01:23:16
Speaker
Do 3-5-2, make it a little more defensive. and he doesn't do any of that. ah He puts out the same formation with the same double pivot.
01:23:27
Speaker
The only people that he drops are the kids, KKR and Tino Lopez. Were they any worse in that Portland game than Dotson, than Rusnak? No, but it's the kids who pay.
01:23:39
Speaker
And then as we're going through the game, who gets subbed out? It's the kids, Kingston and Brunel, who combined to set up that first goal. And so Brian has just, it's gotten very stale. He's relying on the same players ah who who just cannot go out and and he he can't just rely on them to go out and ball out the way he could when we had Ladero or Um,
01:24:05
Speaker
um And he's still the zonal marking bullshit that led to the first goal. That's still there. So he's going to have to change. He's going to have to get more creative.
01:24:17
Speaker
ah He's going to have to innovate tactically. He's going to have to take risks on the kids. And he's going to have to bench some of the underperforming veterans. um Again, i don't think he's on the hot seat, but he can't do what he's always done because he just doesn't have the horses for it.
01:24:37
Speaker
That was a cook. That was a cook. I just can't talk because I'm hearing my own voice. Here, we'll mute you while we talk and then I'll unmute you when you talk.
01:24:48
Speaker
There we go. Yeah, that's okay that's better. that's better now now Now we can talk. Noah, do you want to give your take on on the James take? i i like I agree um that it would it would be silly to fire Brian. I'm fully in agreeance there. and also like Okay, why why run the same double pivot?
01:25:08
Speaker
I mean, i think that... what Who else are you running? Pete Kingston and Snyder Brunel. But, like, yeah, okay, that's fair. So, yeah, he's got to change a little bit. But, like, I don't... I don't know. i like i it's you You got played through so bad last game that like if you put another... you put You're putting an even less experienced person in that spot. I think that's the calculation. like That's the only calculation. He would probably say like the double pivot actually...
01:25:38
Speaker
like functioned, functioned okay enough for us to be competitive into the 85th minute of the game and be a couple minutes from taking the one, one, like the the way that what they're probably telling themselves right now is like, yeah, like everyone's going to be flaming us for losing for three, one again, but realistically we were right there to take a road result. Like the Seattle Sounders usually are in these games. And then we spiraled and melted down and crash out red cardboard at the end. But like on the balance, uh, it's not as bad as it's getting made out to be. That's probably,
01:26:08
Speaker
I would say that that's not how they should be thinking of it, but that probably is how they're thinking of it. James? James? Yes. Okay, you're back. Okay, you're back.
01:26:20
Speaker
Okay. Yeah, I mean, that double pivot was, what it was better, and I thought Snyder looked better in this game. I'm, I can't believe how slow he is.
01:26:33
Speaker
I mean, he he he's he's really not that fast for 19-year-old. um Which, you know, again, I mean, sorry, this is a Craig Weibel problem. I mean, the only reason we were able to carry Rusnak and his low work rate for as long as we did is because we had two guys in Obed and Christian who covered nine miles a game.
01:26:57
Speaker
All right, we lose Obed. What do you do? We get Dotson in there, who is significantly less mobile. I mean, this is the thing about Craig Weibel. He doesn't understand soccer, and he certainly doesn't understand the way Brian Schmetzer does, the way Brian Schmetzer wants to play.
01:27:10
Speaker
And so you just get these signings that just don't make any sense. And ah on top of that, they're always injured. So... You know, it's just, um, I see we've opened up an international spot. I don't want to give Craig Weibel another shot to, to get another disastrous Paul Areola contract in there.
01:27:31
Speaker
ah frankly, I'd rather just write out the season and play the kids rather than, and, and wait for him to get voted out in the GM vote rather than lock us down to another three year, $1 million dollar contract. Um,
01:27:46
Speaker
I think it's kind of grim and, and, and I'll, I'll start, I'll, I'll go ahead and just say my last piece here. ah So you don't have to keep muting and unmuting. Hanauer needs to sell.
01:27:58
Speaker
he has been committing financial malpractice ever since
Front Office Management and Fan Dissatisfaction
01:28:02
Speaker
2019. He doesn't have any money because of his own poor decisions. it It doesn't look like changing. He's got to get out of there. And to the listeners in the chat, you can decline to renew your season tickets And let the let the people know that you're not doing it because we're not spending on the team. Because contrary to what Hanauer's biggest cheerleaders like to say, spending does matter in MLS.
01:28:28
Speaker
Thank you very much for having me, and I hope you all have a great night. Thanks, James. Good stuff, as always, James. i Always good to hear from James. Always bringing the heat. I want to hear your quickly, any response you had to to what James said, and then we'll we'll jump on to Blake, who it says your device is not connected. So, Blake, if you if you leave the queue and join back, we'll we'll bring you back in. We'll bring you in next. But, ah like, i disagree with maybe the... Oh, i we see you now, Blake. I disagree maybe with the fact that Weibel doesn't know soccer. I think he does know soccer. I think...
01:29:06
Speaker
I don't know. I don't even know what to think anymore. I just, like, it's not it's not great. The situation's not great. And um
01:29:15
Speaker
no they're not going to spend any money. So, like, even if you get rid of the same thing, you get rid of Craig, who comes in and, but like, I don't know. like so i like getting Does Craig care about this job even? That's what I want to know.
01:29:30
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. uh...
01:29:36
Speaker
Like, I don't even know what's, what's like, what's to... i it just... The thing is, like, so Nico and I were talking about how, you know, yeah, you can get rid of Craig, but, like, that's not, it's not like whoever comes in is going to be giving more money. They're not getting more money. But then there's the other side of kind of how J.O. was talking about it, which is, like, it's not even about, like, Craig. It's, like, send it, like, it's the one mechanism that fans have to send a message to ownership that, like, the way this is being run, we don't we don't approve of it. So, like, yeah. that the whole vote thing it could come down to that as much as anything about like the stuff which i would understand james was talking about with craig's like transfer record or whatever it's it's more it's as much about like sending a message as anything is what i'm saying yeah all right blake we see you are you ready to join in all right blake how are we blake what's up man good to see you
01:30:32
Speaker
ah Sorry, I'm on YouTube too. Hold on one second. You're good. Okay. Can you hear me? Yeah, you're great. All right. First of all, thank you guys for providing all of us fans with the platform to put out all of our grievances, and I appreciate that.
01:30:48
Speaker
um But like context, I'm a Raul Ruiz Diaz guy and Craig Weibel has not provided. And I second everyone that has said everything past the 5-1 game past like the past four years. We haven't signed anybody. And um i want to bring it back to.
01:31:10
Speaker
What Brian Schmetzer has said forever, the the club is the relationship between the players and the fans. And where is that? The club is, you know, it's the winning culture.
01:31:24
Speaker
And i just, I'm not sure what happened when our guys go out there and do not understand the rivalry between Portland and Seattle. And so that's my grievance is that management, the front office and leadership cannot put that point across through our roster, our buying power. And, you know, frankly, just like the guys are not the problem.
01:31:58
Speaker
It's, it's our leadership. And so I second what, I'm not sure who was on right before me, but Schmetz needs to change. It's like, you know, Schmetz is a possession coach and he's a man manager but he's not a tactical manager and so it's like you know it it worked out when we had Lodero and Rui Diaz because we had the firepower to do so.
01:32:28
Speaker
But it's like, what are you doing on the back end? So I don't blame our guys at all. it's It's totally front office and we need to change. And um my thing is, is that I'm going to the Philly game. I'm flying out to New York tomorrow. We're going to drive over. um And I'm wondering... ya I'm going to Chester.
01:32:53
Speaker
I'm wondering if I should be bringing a Craig out sign. and if you guys sign off on that, then I'm going to do it. I think you should do whatever makes you happy. But if you do do it, get a photo.
01:33:09
Speaker
Oh, yeah, I'm going to do it. they I don't think they're going to put me on. The brigade would probably make you the newest, the newest, like, poster child of of the brigade like you might actually be able to take over James's position you might be able to vote James out in a GM style vote is James up for a vote is James up i'm nontrialized james might be up for a vote I'm not testing the brigade I'm just purely speaking from the heart watch out guys we start a mutiny we're gonna start a mutiny careful RSL 2.0 is over and it's not working out so yeah yeah
01:33:47
Speaker
yeah caleb Caleb just got really excited. Caleb is currently... can we Should we bring Caleb on just right this second? Because look, he's clapping. No, no, no, no, no. Oh, oh, oh. Okay. Sorry, Caleb. Sorry, Caleb. yeah Okay. no youre Caleb, I love you and I love your takes, but it's not working out. And I appreciate the info you've shared. It's RSL 2.0 and it's over, dog.
01:34:11
Speaker
It's over. So... the well has been poisoned. Um, ah my other point, you know, back on the game, everyone looks slow.
01:34:23
Speaker
Like I looked at this team when we were playing inner Miami in the least cup final. And I trusted these guys, but I look at them out on the field right now and there's nothing.
01:34:38
Speaker
And it's just like, I understand that we're, dealing with injuries, but like the passion is not there. And I love that meme of the Chelsea guy.
01:34:50
Speaker
the There is no passion. And with all these changes, they they sold our young talent. And it's like all this time, Schmetzer was like, we need everybody to get through the season. He has said that.
01:35:07
Speaker
We need everybody. And then they go and sell all of our young talent. And I don't need to list their names, but, you know... Georgie Atencio.
01:35:18
Speaker
RBW. Yes. So I don't know. let's side what did three of r b w tonight What you're preaching is not what's happening. And so i feel like there's been a shift and it's, you know, I'm, I'm very pissed as a season ticket holder since 2009, I was at the Red Bulls game, saw Freddie Montero score. It's like not the same. So we need to sign new talent,
01:35:47
Speaker
And if we're doing anything with the gam, like, what, like... We need that now and front of house is the issue. And I would love to see what's happening with the medical staff because we're not a hospital. We're not a a rehab for soccer players.
01:36:09
Speaker
We're a football club. We're not here to provide the best facilities in North America for you to be injured and play zero minutes this season.
01:36:20
Speaker
So that's that's all my take is we need to investigate the front of house because there's a serious leadership problem. There's a medical issue.
01:36:31
Speaker
All of our good players are on injury list. And i just have no idea what they're doing because they should have recovered. And now's the time to do it because we're losing spots on the table.
01:36:46
Speaker
So that's it. Blake, we appreciate Absolute fire. Thank you for coming in. In the chat, let's drop a like on this video if you think you should bring the sign and comment in the chat if you also think you should bring the sign. Craig, I will bring the sign to the Philly game. I hope they put me on TV, but they probably won't.
01:37:07
Speaker
All right, Blake, thank you so much for calling in. Appreciate it, guys. Call in from Philly. Call in from Call in from Philly, yes. All right, I will. I will. All right, bye, Blake. Take care. All right, DJ, are you ready? It says device is not connected. We haven't had a DJ call in a minute. We got to get DJ in here. So, DJ, you may have to leave and come back, but if you do. Connect your device. Okay, there is. There is. There he is. Yeah. ready?
01:37:29
Speaker
Yeah. You ready? He's already talking. He's on mute. Okay, okay. I'm bring you on. Can you hear me? My dad Yeah, my bad, guys. My bad. You're good. um Normally, you know, I'll kiss the crest. There's no crest today. i'm I'm extremely disappointed, as I'm sure a lot of fans are today.
01:37:48
Speaker
i won't spend too much time up here. You guys know me, but i just have a couple things to say. One, I'm... Is Brian going to get fired? Probably not again.
01:38:00
Speaker
um There's no one to replace him, right? That's first and foremost, but also it is very clear that the real issue is with the front office.
01:38:10
Speaker
And I just don't know where the disconnect is. I know Jeremy um and Nico and you you both have also mentioned this, right? There's no real correlation between between how much money you spend and you know your performance. But i I want to believe that, but at the same time, look at where we're spending our money, if at all, right? And we're still not seeing the production.
01:38:36
Speaker
and When we don't have players, when when there's such a disconnect between, you know, the starters and who comes in as a sub, we'll see it in the match. And we've seen it in the most recent, you know, few matches as well.
01:38:49
Speaker
So it's like really disappointing to bring on Adira, and he's he's been amazing, but bring on players who immediately mess up, right? I know Paul Areola kind of got fouled and yes, he put the ball back in play, but he did get pushed.
01:39:05
Speaker
But it's like you can't make mistakes like that. Right. And I think the fans just want to feel excited again. And it doesn't really mesh well with how Ryan plays, right? We play a lot of possession-based plays, right? or Or game. But like when you see LAFC, when you see even like Orlando or Cincinnati, an amazing game, by the way, earlier tonight, they're trying to score.
01:39:31
Speaker
And no one on our team is trying to score. Even someone who was the the youngest player that reached 50 goals, right? Jesus Ferreira. Nothing.
01:39:42
Speaker
Right? And we'll be right in front of goal and people are passing the ball. I think it pisses the fans off. It obviously pisses me off. But like something has to change. So for me, yes, we can use our our vote. I'm an Alliance member as well.
01:39:57
Speaker
This will be my third season. um Voting Craig out, I dont think won't change anything either. Yes, it will send a message. But like, if you're just not going to invest in a team, you need to sell it, right? Let some other billionaire in Seattle, you know, some evil billionaire come in so that we can spend money to get players that, you know, bring that excitement back.
01:40:22
Speaker
Right. We want a new oligarch. We want a new oligarch. Yeah. Get us yeah us one of these, get us one of these AI tech oligarchs that just bought the Seahawks. Why can't we get one of those? Right.
01:40:33
Speaker
And you know, i'm being a little facetious, but it's very clear. Adrian has no interest in spending any type of money and we're selling players that have great production and they're going off and doing great things. Right. I'm, I'm,
01:40:46
Speaker
both happy and sad that we sold Georgie, right? We sold Reed Baker Whiting. We're selling these players that are are fairly good, but they couldn't, you know, become starters or get a lot of, you know, playing time. And now they are, and they're being extremely productive and we don't have anything to fill that in.
01:41:03
Speaker
right And now we're feeling the pain of not having Christian on the field, of having Obed on the field. right um And it just sucks. So I'm mad, but like I really don't know what else we can do except complain on Reddit right and complain here. So thank you for giving us a platform to do that.
01:41:21
Speaker
um Do you guys feel the same way? I mean, i listen to Lobbying Scorchers. I listen to all all of the podcasts, ah actually. but I, it just keeps on, i think the common thread is that, you know, just because we spend more money it doesn't mean we'll get top production. But I think even having a player that may have been a superstar in Liga or in the EPL, even if they're only there for a year, there was actually a conversation on Reddit about this earlier the today, even if they play for a year, right, I think it will bring that excitement back.
01:41:57
Speaker
It just doesn't feel like there's any type of energy. It's just like very sluggish, very low energy on the field. And then we'll lose, right? Or we'll give up you know a goal, concede a goal that was very, very prevent preventable. I feel like if we were at least scoring, people wouldn't be as upset, but we're not even scoring either. So we'd love your thoughts on that.
01:42:17
Speaker
Again, I don't want to be a Debbie Downer, but it's just really frustrating, man. No, I mean, this is the other thing before you guys jump in. Sorry. You know, I'm guest faculty at the University Washington.
01:42:28
Speaker
And I used to tell my students, you know, in previous quarters, like, you know, how big of a Sounders fan I am. I still am. But like, I'm sure someone has gone to a game in the, you know, past couple of.
01:42:42
Speaker
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01:42:46
Speaker
oh no did we lose dj he was mid cook i'm still here sorry about that oh sorry about that um yeah my my my screen went black and i was worried um i'm sure they see the match okay sorry about that um but good i'm sure they've seen a match and we're like my my you know My instructor, my my adjunct professor lied to me. Like, this is not exciting at all, right? So like, I don't know what needs to change. all right, I'll stop talking. i would love to hear your thoughts.
01:43:17
Speaker
yeah Yeah, I think so. The whole like spending doesn't matter thing. um That's that's all well and good when you're winning.
01:43:28
Speaker
And that's kind of the point that I've been trying to make is that there there was a long period of time where they were able to say that and they were able to chest up on that. And they had kind of, they, it was earned confidence in my opinion, like it to a certain extent, because they had the results to back it up. The play on the field was at a really high level, but also like they were, when they were winning hella trophies, man. They're the first team to win every single trophy that's available to them. So if you have your your, your method for that, that's pulling those results and you want to sit there and say that then
01:44:04
Speaker
then yeah, you can do that. But like, I think what we're seeing is that you tell a dangerous line with that, where if things stop going your way or you hit a cycle that reaches its end and you have injured DPs and things just start going against you and you get, start getting results like we're seeing these last couple weeks, it kind of actually falls apart and you can't really stand on that. And you're in a situation where now like the outside pressure and the sentiment and the on the fan base is that you're broke that and that you don't care. You're not going to spend money to improve anything and that you're kind of holding on to past glory. And I think anyone who's arguing that right now has a lot, has a lot more to stand on than anyone saying like, well,
01:44:50
Speaker
Well, there's no no there's no like statistical correlation between spending and winning, but, you know, I mean, look at look at what Inter-Miami has been able to do. like the underlying numbers man I think that that whole thing has been misconstrued, though, because...
01:45:08
Speaker
I mean, with every statistic, right, there's outliers. There's outliers on either end. And the outliers on either end are not deterministic of what this statistical, you know, thing is representing. On one end, you have Inter-Miami who can spend every single penny in the entire world. And, like, sometimes it makes them better, sometimes it doesn't. So there really isn't a correlation between spending. But when you don't spend any money at all, at all, at all all yes, that's the problem. It's not that you that that like you need to be spending Inter-Miami money. It's that you just need to spend something. You need to spend a larger chunk of money than what you're spending. You need to go out and be bold and believe that you can sign someone. And maybe that's a $10 million dollars player. Maybe that's a $7 million dollar player. Maybe that's ah you know some something in between. It's not a
01:46:03
Speaker
Signing Jesus Ferreira, which was a really good interleague deal. It's doing that and then also and also spending some money. It's being smart about signing young players, building a roster, doing all of this stuff, being effective.
01:46:19
Speaker
It's just not about, you can't like not spend any money. So, and it's not to defend that article or, or that take or anything like that, because i don't personally agree with it.
01:46:30
Speaker
But like, if, if we are taking that like quote, it's also just true that on either end, That's the problem, right? Like, it it it does correlate. There is a correlation. It's just, if you're looking at the in-betweens, and this is why I don't like statistics as much, it's it's just not, it's just not, like, you have to spend money. And I think me and Ari have both always been on that train of, like,
01:46:56
Speaker
okay, it's time to make a move. like And also, i think we're kind of realists that it's just not going to happen. We've parroted our fair share of the built-not-bought narratives, but I maintain that that was founded based on the results. like that that They have gotten great results doing that, but right now, it's bleak. So...
01:47:21
Speaker
yeah Maybe what mean what once worked maybe does not work anymore or that you you need to just go into it a a new era, a new mentality, a new way of thinking of this because absolutely you can't like keep going down this road. I think we all agree on that.
01:47:35
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, we're hunkering down. Look, I will always be a Sounders fan. It's gonna be dark for a while, right? Until we figure out how to move forward. I have one, two maybe, two thoughts maybe? More so one. i was not happy that they were, you know, bringing out our young guys to talk to the press when we lost. I think that was very cowardly. that i don't think they did that.
01:47:59
Speaker
ah this match or this match day, so I'm happy about that, but they should never do that again, right? Especially when our veterans are just not performing, we should not be trotting them out to get completely hammered and, you know, they have to come up with the wording, right, of we just didn't play well enough or or what have you, but the the truth of the matter is, of the matter is we're just not playing well at all, right? So again, I really think that is a
01:48:30
Speaker
knew who or ruse-nack type of job moving forward, like people that have been on this team for a while and should know how to field those types of questions, especially if the rest of the of the team is looking to them for answers on, you know, how to perform better.
01:48:49
Speaker
um
01:48:52
Speaker
I'll leave it, I'll leave it there. um i know the queue's pretty large. Yeah, we are full house in here. Yeah, I've not called in in and in a while, so I just wanted to show face again. Thank you guys for everything that you're doing.
01:49:05
Speaker
Go Sounders. Guys, it's gonna be tough, but let's continue to support. Oh, this was the last thing. I've met Craig in real life. He's a really good guy, so i know I've been hard on him here.
01:49:17
Speaker
um But Craig, you gotta do better, man. Please save us. Do something. Whatever you can do, even if it is shows some type of dissent between you and Adrian, I think that goes a long way. But, yeah, have a good night, everyone, and I'll see you guys later.
01:49:32
Speaker
Later, DJ. Thank you, DJ. Yeah, I think ah just real quick on what he was saying there, you know, we we skewered them pretty good for sending Snyder out there for a minute 30 after the Portland game. And ah to be fair, tonight, Albert did come out there. Because he literally – literally was forced to because he couldn't home because they have to get on an airplane. But yeah. Because, you know, whatever. At least he did it. All right. yeah That's true. Better. That is better than the the last game.
01:50:00
Speaker
Yeah. Before we wait, we'll be really quick. I just we literally got a billion super chats. I'm just going to do it really quickly. Run through these. I'm sorry to the super chatters. Two gems. Thank you for the two gems. Derek says zero shots. Ferreira strikes again. We did already talk about that. Derek, thank you so much for the two dollars. Those six gems.
01:50:18
Speaker
chili it just says chili don't know what that means but hell yeah w pinata uh with a thousand gems from chad let them cook uh with the 750 gems press f but i didn there's so many gems i'm just going to the dollars craiglist weibolt that's a good nickname you guys can cook on that one Thank you, Kenny, for that. 10 more gems. Patrick, thank you for being a member for 15 months. And we just got a $10 dono from Jeremy Keller. It was 90 degrees here in Redmond today, and I didn't even feel like walking outside to get lunch.
Environmental Impact on Game Performance
01:50:51
Speaker
So I'm willing to cut the team a little slack for doing it as well as they did until the 85th minute. I'm glad you brought that up because I was going to say... Let's bring Wade in to help talk about that. All right. Wade, you ready?
01:51:04
Speaker
Yep. Oh, you're there you go. Hey, Wade. What's up, guys? The only point I was going to make on this super chat real quick which was just that, you know, we talked a lot about energy and passion in the Portland game and how it felt like the team wasn't up for the rivalry or a derby of that intensity. ah And today, I think, especially towards the end of the game, it looked like a slog, like they were running in mud a little bit out there.
01:51:30
Speaker
We should keep in mind that it was 127 degrees out there. you You had guys like leaning over in the first half on both teams. Like the end of the first half, both teams looked like they wanted to die. So I actually I did feel like the effort was at least better.
01:51:45
Speaker
OK, I'm not I'm not saying it was like incredible, but it was at least better. better than we saw in the portland match which again admittedly the lowest bar of all time but uh i think i don't want the like ah end of the game and how that looked in elements like that to to change how i think of that hey it was also humid and not a dry heat just saying that's like texas worse texas heat yeah and times worse um Yeah, holy crap. Dotson out, please. Like, can we get a real number six for once? Like, that is fucking killing us.
01:52:17
Speaker
the I don't know how we go from Ozzy Alonzo to JP to Hassani Dotson. What the fuck is this bullshit? people just run through our midfield it used to be you had to go through ozzy's wheelhouse in order to try to like do yes dude yes and people just do whatever the fuck they want to us now it's it's total bullshit there's no christian ruled on there's no christian ruled on like for like at all what nothing like we have no cdm to stop anything from going through like we couldn't if we couldn't stop the counter tonight that looked really bad
01:52:49
Speaker
um man, I really wish we kept Ryan Kent right about now, because at least we'd have like a legitimate depth de piece somewhere. um And no, I understand. like we we we haven't had a like We don't have any number nines or anybody that can score, but we haven't had that all season.
01:53:04
Speaker
like where Yeah, and everybody's point. I mean, we keep pointing at Craig. like First of all, yeah, hold a sign up at that Philly game. Craig out 100%. But I don't think the guy can build a roster. like Where...
01:53:21
Speaker
you had this whole world cup cycle to go and try to find somebody or try to find anybody and you're not making any moves and we're about to go a fifth year it looks like like somebody me put a bet on calci for that i'll i'll put so much money that we're not going to make a move like yeah it's just so It feels like this just feels really down right now, especially after a 5-1 loss going four losses, two goals in four games.
01:53:49
Speaker
like We can't score. um Yeah, just it just feels like utter shit right now. I don't know. That's kind of where I'm at. i haven't felt this bad about this team. Yeah, like probably since.
01:54:02
Speaker
Probably since 2016. Yeah, 2016. And then it was like, holy shit, we did it. Or even 2022. One MLS Cup that year. They were down worse than this. They were one signing you were last. They were dead last. They're as bad as bad as it is right now. they're They're in sixth right now. They were in last. They were 6-12-2 that year and they won um MLS Cup. that was That was worse. That was worse. That was some good cope for you. It felt so good hearing Taylor Twelman just shit on us and then having us win.
01:54:28
Speaker
FLS Cup. Be like, how is this team going to come back? And we actually pull out. Yeah. it But remember, one signing. One signing changed that entire calculus. Well, so this year... Let's go Ryan Kent. That's what I'm saying. No, no, no, no, no. This year, this year, people are saying, oh, there's no Nico Ladero that's going to come save you. There's no there's no one who's going be the the savior in the middle of the season.
01:54:53
Speaker
How about... No already knows what I'm about to say. Pedro de la Vega is going to play the Ladero role in 2026. Save the day.
01:55:04
Speaker
Spear the MLS Cup run. It's going to be a 2016 redux. That'd be wild. deb be but like wait why Wait until it happens. It's going to go crazy.
01:55:16
Speaker
If that happens, I'll get the number 10 tattoo. You guys kind of hit on this already, but like you're not making moves. We have all this GAM and all this money. what yeah Let's talk about the GAM war chest. Is it just sitting there? Is it is in like a safe? like can we go Can we see it? They better have a high interest savings account. That's all I'm going to say. What's the point of like, so we got rid of ah what's his name? I think he was on loan from Visal Kobe, right? That Youth International was playing for.
01:55:45
Speaker
Defiance. We got rid of him to free up international spot, but then we sold him. They fully signed him. Oh, okay. I didn't know that. never There was another player who was on loan from Vasil Kobe. I think that was a different guy. I could be i thought it was him. My bad.
01:55:59
Speaker
but like Why did we sell two international spots and then get rid of this player to free up an international spot? like what I don't know, man. It doesn't make sense. like The more I just look at what Craig Weibel does. i just don't think he knows how to negotiate.
01:56:17
Speaker
I don't think he knows how to sell players to come to Seattle to want to play for this sick-ass club that wins trophies and makes the playoffs every year and is fucking relevant and everybody, like, we are literally the envy of the entire league. Like, people literally hate us because they hate us.
01:56:34
Speaker
Like, I just don't, I don't know, like, what we're doing with this GM and like, yeah, it may not do anything to vote them out, but like it sends a message to at least the ownership, like you guys got to do better or just do something, just do something. That's all I want to see. Just make a move, take a risk, like do something and like I don't know, man, that that's kind of where I'm at with it. It's just so disappointing.
01:57:01
Speaker
I guess last thing is I always tell my friends this because they're they're not new Sanders fans. They've been fans since like 2014 or 13. But i always tell them like how fortunate we are to have a club that makes the playoffs every year. And we, you know, we're going to see what it's like eventually when we stop doing that and we stop being relevant and it's going to be it's going dark days and it's going be really hard so like just like just enjoy it for now because like when those days come it's going to be really really bad it's true and those days have not really come for this club somehow since 2009 but these things are cyclical like that could just be part of it man like it's been like a charmed magic carpet ride to this point but like
01:57:41
Speaker
Every team, every club, everybody has downturns eventually. So hundred percent maybe that maybe that's just where we're at. But I guess we'll find I will say at least we've never lost MLS Cup final at home. Unlike another certain team I know. So there you go. Hang our hat on that. ah By the way, if you ever bring that to it up to a Timbys fan, they fucking hate it. um It's my favorite thing to tell them every single time.
01:58:08
Speaker
and You know, that's, I'm glad we can have a little fun at their expense. Cause God knows they've been having a lot of fun at our expense. So yeah, well, yeah. You know, they don't win trophies. So i wouldn't yeah that is their Superbowl. That is their Superbowl. So like ah we, we have, we understand. Yeah.
01:58:25
Speaker
let's be now All right, Wade. Thank you so much for calling in. We're going to keep our push in here, but yeah, we got to get Caleb in here and then we got a lot, we got a lot more calls, so let's keep it pushing. Thank you, Wade.
01:58:38
Speaker
Caleb, you ready to go? Yeah. All right. How we doing? Real saw Caleb in the building. sticks on wow Wow. That's done. Okay. First on record. Don't ever say that ever again.
01:58:55
Speaker
Don't ever say that ever again, Noah. Because I will rip that mustache off your mouth.
01:59:05
Speaker
Even Ari has more class than you. oh it's true And Ari has given me problems. like you know And we have our problems. But no, what you just said right there, foul.
01:59:17
Speaker
call on you on that one you know caleb your your agenda has permeated so deeply into the lobbing scorchers community that it's seeped outside of just the lobbying sorcerers community and i now see it as just like a regular talking point that we are mainstreamed it you've mainstreamed the the talking point not easy to do so i mean if i may ask i mean like you know like i mean to challenge james um who is the bigger brigader and who should damn sure be the president because to be honest James yes you you put up the valid points but there's one thing that you just don't bring up that I can bring up is because I've seen four to five years of Albert personally when he played here and you have still not brought that up you were the OG and none of you have brought up
02:00:13
Speaker
So if you want to really be an absolute Brigader, I dare you to challenge the Brigade on me on that for your GM spot. Because I would love to absolutely mop the floor with you and actually teach these people a lesson or two.
02:00:28
Speaker
No offense, James. You are still great with wise with your words, but i have to just like, you know, call that what it is respectfully. We'll have to take a brigade vote um here soon. I'm telling on the i'm ah kind of on the Caleb for president train. Sorry, James.
02:00:46
Speaker
Because, like, i I mean, okay. And I'm going to be i'm goingnna be the you know how, like the the like, the evil wizard that makes, like, the mad, the like, you know, the evil clock spell if if something doesn't happen. So I'm going to be lenient here, and I'm going to give Craig the lenient hourglass.
02:01:09
Speaker
He has until September when we play his former club at home.
Expectations for Improvement and Community Support
02:01:19
Speaker
um um That is enough leniency to give it the benefit of the doubt. And if we do not play well against that and have a good record against, you know, especially winning against that team,
02:01:36
Speaker
then we can absolutely pile on the shit storm. Because you have, like I said, to all you fans, which again, you need to like, share and and subscribe because we still have yet to have more like you know subscribers and people to this thing.
02:01:55
Speaker
Please like, share and subscribe. Subscribe to QED Coffee. please ladies and gentlemen please follow the uh the efg for like enough forever glue for evergreen for the ladies of our for on the new platform to let us support our ladies yep we love our ebf we have not we have not we have we have not we have not given our shout outs when like i said a q or to our qed coffee hacks and for men's and full pull wines true so when i say that i mean to say
02:02:26
Speaker
we have really looked at this thing I've given till September because it it it's until then like you because like I said you guys have been very lenient of giving so much time to these fans and you've taught me a thing or two about giving leniency and time
02:02:45
Speaker
so we both have learned something all of us can learn something we're we're all on a growth path together exactly and and i am here for that and like i said the game i give it to i'm gonna i'm gonna hold out because like i said we are banged up there still is i get it the pedro della vega which brian did say he should be in full training next week but that doesn't mean anything like saying that he's gonna get time but at that least that's something i could see and i'm actually happy to hear about
02:03:21
Speaker
Because for once, we could hear that. And then we could absolutely focus on we could start growing. But at the same time, like I said, if we do not have a good record, and especially if we do not beat Craig's former club,
02:03:43
Speaker
then that really speaks a statement. And do do you think that that I'm asking you chat and I'm asking you and Noah, is that lenient?
02:03:55
Speaker
yeah I think that's very i mean that's the star on the hill. I think that's I think we're going to internalize. That's actually going to be my new thing to look forward to. It's like that's because that's a perfect amount of time, right? You get through the whole transfer window and that's enough time to turn the ship.
02:04:13
Speaker
So I think that's I think that's perfect, honestly. Agreed. I think because the, I please, because to be honest, I think that's like because like I said, the leniency of you, of you fans and you people have taught me a thing or two about how to give chances and to really believe and to like, you know, maybe get out and like, get my head out of my own ass.
02:04:35
Speaker
so i literally give you guys all the thanks i give every subscriber and every commentator everybody that has liked shared and subscribed anybody that has just even listened to me thank you from the bottom of my heart i cannot thank you enough it is because of you guys that makes this absolutely like that makes me go because that's what inspired me to stand up to be guerrilla fc and fight for the justice of what we have to be
02:05:12
Speaker
And shout out to Caleb and shout out to the drum set and shout out Pedro de la Vega. Thank you for calling in, Caleb. We will see you on the next one, boss.
02:05:24
Speaker
Appreciate you. One more take a little bit. One more take a little bit. We got, we got to close out. I'm sorry this time. Okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. See ya.
02:05:36
Speaker
Sorry about that. We're, we're getting late here. All right. Hey, Seuss, are you ready? Get Jesus in here. Jesus, how are we? How are we? I'm good, but so far that performance was the worst. And honestly, as a fan for more than more than a decade, it's been the hardest I've ever been.
02:05:56
Speaker
um I got the chain for this made during the World Cup and just for them to play like absolute shit. Playing like what happens if you go on the backyard and you play with a bunch of Sunday league unks you end up just not fighting for nothing.
02:06:11
Speaker
Man, what was and what up with the end of that game? Because like, i think everything you're saying is true. But like, when I go back in on my mind, I'm like, you were literally five minutes from just one wanting a road game. and it would have been, i know, right? if we're hang in that bad't And then you just like melt down You melt down.
02:06:29
Speaker
I mean, i give them i would give him I'll give them the slack. I mean, they played in the hot Texas sun where, honestly, yeah Austin is, I mean, I think an hour away from San Antonio. So, I mean, I know that side of Texas is really bad. and special it but It looked miserable. it looked miserable. like Yeah, you never but you know it was bad when had fans were doing this the entire 90 minutes of the game.
02:06:53
Speaker
And then... Mind you, over here in the Yakima Valerama, it's hard, too. so Hey, I'm in Yakima right now, too. Shout out the dry siders. Come on. Yeah. Yakima, crackima. I can never get enough of it. But my take on this and my take is that um i see I see nothing but dark days coming, but we need to get our head out of our asses. It's pretty much how Caleb was saying. I mean,
02:07:22
Speaker
The reals, Craig Liz Weibel is not beating the RSA allegations. Just like dictator, that's like Mbappe is not beating the dictator allegations. Yeah. Yeah. and Exactly. We need a new dictator. We need Mbappe. Mbappe for GM. Mbappe for GM.
02:07:39
Speaker
And then, well, honestly, well, oh I got to say just I'll bring a sign that says Craigslist out or if I get thrown out of the stadium. That's like how thecent just like ah the Dallas Mavericks did that last year when Luka got traded.
02:07:52
Speaker
you remember that.
02:07:55
Speaker
And then you have Adrian and Howard Glazers. Yeah. Yeah, you have the Adrian Hunter glazers still glazing him. Yeah, it is. we you know We're anti-oligarch on this pod. you know i did I will say I did glaze him in person one time but because I was trying to get him to come on the podcast mainly, which like I just don't think he's ever going to do that, unfortunately. But I did compliment his shoes, and then 10 minutes later, he went into the Sounders locker room and screamed at them for wearing pay-us-more-money shirts. So that was that was fire. I was glad to be a part of that because he was steaming. Oh, i was at that game. I was my first game. a fun fact. He was super steamed on the sidelines, and I could tell, and I was like, you know what I'm to him with?
02:08:38
Speaker
Yo, six shoes. Sorry to interrupt, Noah. um Was that the Minnesota United game last year? No, it was. The World Cup. Oh. No, I think it was Minnesota. Oh, yeah. because I was there at the time, man. Oh, my God. The Monopoly shirts. The Monopoly shirts. Yeah, the Monopoly shirts. That shit was so funny.
02:08:58
Speaker
that was that was great That was a great moment in club history. It really was. Yeah, greatest moment in club history. And also, to everybody who's not subscribed, are you a real Sounders fan or what?
02:09:09
Speaker
Yeah, come on. I know there's people watching that aren't subbed. All of you watching on Twitter, apparently there's a bunch of you. Sub to the YouTube. Please subscribe to this channel, leave a like and comment because they're giving us a platform that I think no else team has.
02:09:23
Speaker
You have NYC, you have NYRB, aka New York Red Bulls. A historic club in the MLS. Do they have a platform to support their grievances? No. Happy foot, sad foot.
02:09:34
Speaker
Happy foot, sad foot. The LAFC guys do that's where we're We're pretty much the only two. Yeah. Yeah. But we're back. Thank you guys for giving such a great platform to the Sounders um community. I mean, i'm I'm always on Facebook and looking at the group chats and all that, and I just ignore it. I'm like, you know what? I'll just go to the safer spot.
02:09:55
Speaker
That's what we're here for, man. That's what we're here for. Well, Jesus, thank you so much, man. We appreciate you calling in. Shout out, Yakima. Thank you much. Thank you. I mean, I lived here for my entire life. And if you see a bunch of people that are coped out or something on some type of whatever, it happens a lot here. and Just keep it. so You're like, just keep it pushing. You'll be good. You'll be good. You'll be pushing. but but My dad's from here, so that's why I'm a little bit of a crackhead, too. So it's all good. Oh, makes sense. it Makes sense. Yeah, but Sounders Till I Die. And thank you guys for having me. Have a good night. And I'll see you guys on Saturday.
02:10:28
Speaker
See you soon. Appreciate you. Shout out Yakima. Shout out. Dry siders. Yeah. all right, Nat, are you ready?
02:10:39
Speaker
Got Nat, Hunch, Timbo, and Nate, and then that's it. no one else calling. you're the final caller. We're not taking any more. Yeah, straight up after Nate. but If you do tap in, we're not going past Nate, so no one else calling.
02:10:50
Speaker
Nat, welcome to the stream. Before you say that you want to leave Stu Hawkins in Texas, I want to defend. I think Stu Hawkins played well, and I disagree with that take. Now I'll hand it over to you.
02:11:04
Speaker
Well, actually want i've I've said enough in the chat. to How I feel about two Hawkins. I've said that in the future. I've said, and yeah, I mean, he's played worse in past games. Set up a goal.
02:11:16
Speaker
He's our worst. He's still the worst player on our team. yeah I think it's crazy take based on how much he's played, which is barely at all. But yeah, yeah we all have our agendas. He shouldn't have fun. Okay. But i I need to, but when I come on here normally, I feel like I am one of the biggest defenders of Jordan Morris and Jackson Reagan and both of these guys.
02:11:42
Speaker
Jordan, where are you right now? Why haven't you said anything recently? He should have been out front and center. I know if he's he's injured, I know that is tough. That is tough. But come on. We have not heard from you in forever. You are getting... Where are you? It's up sitting on your giant stack of money that you're getting paid right now because he's getting paid too much. And at this point, like me as a Jordan Morris defender is like you either got retire, dude, or you got to take less money because this is ridiculous.
02:12:18
Speaker
you gotta bro we we think of him as like mr sounder or like the art like our local seattle kid and he was incredible when he came in and in 2015. and then he did stuff in 2016 2019. he is not the same dude but he used to during those years he would talk about himself or or he would he like would talk about the moment about like, it's so awesome that I'm like playing for my local club and I'm so excited to be here and I care so much.
02:12:53
Speaker
And he used to still do that. And he was doing that when he got injured the second time. And we'd see, we've gotten so many documentaries about, uh jordan morris about after every injury and it's like it's so important to me he's been so quiet this entire world cup air time in this season so jordan come out say something please and then jackson reagan jackson reagan is the only person on the sounders roster who was selected for the all-star game we have one representative and it is jackson reagan and that guy just got sent off with one of these stupidest red cards imaginable yeah it is it is you're on a yellow card what are you doing though
02:13:39
Speaker
It's so bad. He is suspended up into the... Yeah, he's... Technically, he should be suspended for the All-Star game. Yeah, until... Yeah. I like when... I like to... Why does he get to play in the All-Star game and then be suspended? He should be suspended for the All-Star game. That be tight. I liked when Albert was... He's suspended for the rest of MLS play. Yeah. Until we go the League's Cup. When Albert was like, well, you know, he already was on yellow card accumulation, so he would have been suspended for the next game anyway. I was like, that's not the point. There's two now. Which is a good rule. It was reckless challenge. It's a really stupid tackle. gets two games? It's not...
02:14:20
Speaker
um games it's not doesn't know but do you thought it really yeah i thought that yeah i thought what I thought that what they were saying, that what Rusnak was saying was like, no, man. like it's No, I'm pretty sure they stack.
02:14:31
Speaker
Okay, tight. That's even better. That's what this position group needed is for him to get suspended for two games for that. To be fair, i'm not that's not confirmed, but we will figure that out. I'll find that out. and Okay.
02:14:43
Speaker
but Yeah. Yeah. About the All-Star game also, just about that, like, i was just thinking, like, who should be our one representative? I mean, like, I feel like our one representative for right now has to be Rothrock since he's the only one scoring like if anyone on our team would deserve to represent the Sounders because we are it's still crazy we're in six we are going to make the playoffs this year which is terrible because the front office is going to continue with getting away with what they're doing we're gonna to make the playoffs this year see we averaged 1.58 points per game we're still in six bot Austin is still in second to last in the in the Western Conference like
02:15:26
Speaker
We're still drastic. Like, we're still a drastic... Oh, my God. That team is so bad, bro. Yeah. Okay, allegedly... But they deserve to win today. They deserve to win today. They were so much better than us. We looked horrible. And, like, people have been saying, like... Like, we watched the... Like... Like... What the guy...
02:15:47
Speaker
two ago a Wade um was saying about how like, yeah, like teams hate us because they ain't us. it's It's true. Like people come out for the games against the Sounders because, and like when we go play away, usually there's usually a lot more home fans because people know the Sounders are good and they have good players and exciting players. Right now we don't have exciting players coming to town and it's just easy for teams to go in. Even like MOS today, the Instagram is still posting us,
02:16:18
Speaker
posting about us like it is like the normal sounders when like that we do and like we're so much worse than what we normally are and this is it is just it's so frustrating jackson's got to do better um and i got to last thing i'll i'll say here because i've said enough about morris and reagan like please come out and say something but uh weibo back to back to what people were saying about weibo like Webel, everyone keeps saying that he seems like such a nice guy. so it's it feels so So people are like, we need there to be a big change.
02:16:56
Speaker
And Webel might be the guy who's gonna who is gonna like who the club is going to throw under the bus. and And the fans are feeling like, oh, but he's so nice. So do we want him to do that? So With that being said, like I want to root for Weybel because he is a nice guy. And with that, Weybel, come out, take a stand against Hanauer and be like, guys, I'm trying to go fight. You have nothing to lose at this moment.
02:17:25
Speaker
You are either going to get fired that way in like a hostile stuff and like... Go down swinging. Yeah, you'll be remembered that way. Burn the bridge. not, he's not going anywhere.
02:17:38
Speaker
What team is hiring after that? Maybe like... You'll get like, in a it's a boys club. You get like an assistant, whatever. He'll get a, he'll get along somewhere. He's not, he's not getting a better job than this. He's, he's going either to the USL championship or he's going to go to like, I don't know. One of the bad ones teams like DC United, who doesn't care. I don't know.
02:17:57
Speaker
Uh, like guys, we're still not them, but like, we're going to make the playoffs, but like, still like, Take a shot, Wable. Like, come on. Make people remember you. Most people don't know who he is. No one knows what his name is. I like this take. Leave a legacy. Yeah. yeah Leave a legacy, dude. People still think our GM is Garth Loggerway, probably, because people at least know who that is. No one knows who Wable is but outside of us and RSL fans.
02:18:21
Speaker
I hear Garth's looking for something to do.
02:18:25
Speaker
Yeah, maybe he's still he finds the sauce again from failing at Atlanta. Who knows? That'd be, that'd be a, I, that would be like the USMNT hiring Berhalter again. If we, if we bring back, what do you think the fan base reaction would be if they brought Garth fired Craig wives, but then brought Garth back?
02:18:48
Speaker
i have It would be really interesting. He did win are he did come and and we won MLS Cup. This team couldn't stop winning when he was here. du this He was addicted to winning. He couldn't do anything but win. He didn't know how to do anything but win.
02:19:03
Speaker
If he came back and then Hanauer left, the the brigade would go nuts. Like, the fans would go absolutely nuts. If it's like, okay, Hanauer is gone, Garth is back, he was the guy who came in, we won trophies, he starts spending money. That would be that'd be an amazing timeline.
02:19:22
Speaker
There's no way that's happening. Anyway. all right I was unclear in my research about if yellow card accumulation does count. People are saying it's confirmed two games.
02:19:34
Speaker
I did, but I saw information that was opposite of that, so I reached out to a couple of our MLS point of contacts to confirm that, and we'll make a social media post about that later on.
02:19:46
Speaker
Yeah. Well, Nat, any final thoughts? great It's been great. um I am still... Wondering um why David Goss hasn't said anything about Vermont Green losing yeah a final to Salmon Bay FC. Goss, we're calling you out.
02:20:08
Speaker
Yeah. David Goss, like, ah what did you guys... You guys had to say something bad about the color green. Like, I feel like he should have to say something. Yeah.
02:20:19
Speaker
We did make a bet in the last... And we lost. We lost. Yeah. we So, um... Let's ah fix that. All right. um All right. David Goss, I will be giving you a phone call tomorrow and harassing you. So get ready. All right, Nat. Thank you so much for calling in. We're going to finish it out here. We appreciate you as always. And have a good night.
02:20:42
Speaker
Go Salmon Bay. Happy Salmon Bay Day. Happy Salmon Bay Day. yep
02:20:49
Speaker
Hunch, will you start this call while I use the bathroom? Yeah, i got you. literally have had to pee for like at least an hour. So go for it. Go for it. We got hunch on stage right now.
02:21:01
Speaker
Hunch. It's another L it's a three, one at Austin FC. The squad is spiraling. The vibes are bad. The GM's under fire. The owner's under even more fire. The people are upset. It's a disaster. It's a debacle.
02:21:14
Speaker
What do you, what do you think? What's going on? Man, I'm tired. I'm just tired. ah Of the team or just in general or both? I mean, i mean yeah. like ah There's so many things. There's so many.
02:21:27
Speaker
So many things. i So I think back like more than 10 years ago, even going to the games, I would come back home sometimes that same day, maybe the next day, and I'd rewatch the match because we'd go down, but we'd come back fighting and it it was exciting to watch.
02:21:45
Speaker
I haven't been able to rewatch any matches in like the last two years, with the exception of like the Cruz Azul. what I do when they when they play really well and they win and they're doing well is I'll just abuse the highlights I'll watch them like 500 times like I had definitely not doing that with these last two games I'm never watching the highlights I think of either of those games no I no I'm not definitely not and yeah I mean it's just where is that so we just went to Austin we talked about you know what a double rotation
02:22:22
Speaker
We faced this exact scenario two, three years ago. We played the youngest squad that MLS has ever seen a starting formation on the field and won. Yeah, and then brought Rui Diaz off the bench to bam a 50-yarder on their head and win in their stadium. And that that's what this team, this team used to do stuff like that.
02:22:42
Speaker
yeah we're in this scenario in this scenario where's that fighting spirit like where where are those players where's the where's that coaching staff that's making that recommendation oh wait we keep selling all that young talent that's what's happening we're selling both ends of this which by the way they've already sold the international spot from tusokunomi to uh dc united for 75 000 in 2029.
02:23:05
Speaker
Sick. I can't wait for the 75,000 in 2029 to take the field for his MLS debut. Well, to be fair, you know, Yusuke Nome wasn't playing, and he's older than Jesus Fura. So that 128,000 in game we're going to get for selling his slot.
02:23:22
Speaker
I mean, ah kind of smart if you think about it. But, yeah, I've just not seen the fight. what The other thing I'm not hearing, although at least I'll say it's honest.
02:23:37
Speaker
Brian is even saying, like, you know, I don't know. Everything is wrong. You there's not enough fight. There's not enough intelligence. There's not enough um plays on the ball, off the ball, shooting, defending. It's all wrong. It's basically what he said in the in the post here.
02:23:51
Speaker
But what I'm not hearing from necessarily – well, he did say it's on him. But I'm not hearing from, like, the other players or anything else saying, like, I'm accountable and I'm gonna make sure we get ourselves out of this. Like I'm not seeing anything.
02:24:05
Speaker
Like, yeah, I'm gonna see it. And the thing that really drives me crazy is this, this team, these players have had a pretty freaking charmed life being at this club for this many years because they don't get negative press. They don't get negative pressure like they're getting now.
02:24:21
Speaker
It's not like they've been dealing with this for four or five, six years. Like there's no reason. yeah they shouldn't be stepping up and saying something to the lines of like, we don't like this either. We're going to do something about it.
02:24:33
Speaker
They're shirking it. And that comes from leading by example, in my opinion, from the field. And yeah, Christian and Steph and all that. But those guys, no offense to them, have one foot out the door, like less of their careers in front of them or more of the careers behind them and less is in front of them at this point.
02:24:54
Speaker
And we don't know where this is going. Oh, God, that is just terrible. I just immediately opened my phone because I needed a little hit of dopamine, and this is just immediately what popped up, and now I'm like, I'm just going to actually stop now. Cody Baker in a Revs jacket. i just i can't do it.
02:25:13
Speaker
hunch uh hunch did you see the press conferences tonight of you yeah i was watching the channel here yeah so like what did you think of their answers because listening to you talk it through right there i think like for most of it i kind of came to the conclusion that we were talking about of like what do you even really say in this type of situation like there's it's not like and i think rusenak even said there's nothing that i can sit here and say that's going to fix this like we have to go out on the field and fix it and that's pretty much as simple as it gets but there was a There was a little bit even from Rothrock, who like we love and we appreciate the fact that he comes out there. But they were both kind of say they took exception to the notion that this game was as bad as the Portland game. And there was a little bit of like, man, i thought my question was good.
02:25:53
Speaker
I thought my question was the best. We couldn't hear it. noah So i don't I didn't hear it exactly. i heard But like there was. there was a little bit of like, you know, it was a lot better than the Portland game. And we, we just have a lot of stuff going against us right now and we're going to like get out
US Men's National Team and Leadership Concerns
02:26:08
Speaker
of it. And it's like, and I was feeling like this, listening to the, to the USMNT guys rap as well, where they were, they were talking about like, we're pretty happy with how the world cup went like, yeah, bad last game, but you know, it was pretty good or whatever. And I, you know, I'm, I'm kind of, am I a boomer for wanting just someone to be like, no, fuck this, man, this isn't good enough.
02:26:27
Speaker
This sucks. This isn't good enough for the fans. We hate this. like i like Say something like that. I don't know. like well so that That traditionally would come from your captain, and no offense, but Nuhu's not a captain.
02:26:38
Speaker
he's not like He's not like the media guy like that. Well, it's not media, nothing. No one on the team is looking um during the game on the field at Nuhu to like... what What do we do? Like, you know, are you going to start the engine here? What's going to happen? He's probably going to flip off the ref and get sent off with us another red card is what's going to happen. but And I don't blame him. like a Coach is like, okay, you know, he' deserve he's been here 300 years. Okay, fine.
02:27:01
Speaker
But that's – if the guys in the field need a leader to dig them out of hard situations, you need someone who's behaving at least like a Rothrock. and i mean couple things you hear the the the old statement nature abhors a vacuum meaning if they if they're devoid of leadership it will fill itself eventually it'll come from somewhere and you may not like it when it does meaning the players the coaches whoever but you leave it long enough something something's gonna happen something's gonna change and it could be counter to be me
02:27:32
Speaker
yeah The other thing, well, back to your point of the press conference, I like, and this is the worst thing that you know somebody doesn't know what they're doing. i disagree with the question. What?
02:27:43
Speaker
A question? question's a question. a question it's not It's not a statement. but It's a question. like It's a question. Well, to be fair, there are some people who do ask statements, but I don't think the question that was asked in that no it wasn't press conference was a statement.
02:27:59
Speaker
No. So you're completely right. And that the first guy, like he came out on fire. That's the first couple questions. You can tell he got thrown off by Rusnak. Rusnak challenged him. and then he I've actually i've been there where a player's been like, what are you talking about? And then I'm like, I freeze. I'm like, oh, I don't even know. like Well, it was something like spiraling. woodskin And JL said similar. It's like, you know what are you going to do to prevent this?
02:28:23
Speaker
And then it was pointed out that at the last game it was stated that well judge us by our next results judge us by a response that was my question i was when so it's like all three one loss are we trending in the right direction because we're losing by less and we're gonna lose two to one and i'm gonna see that as a success in the next game like well it was five now it's three now it's two right direction guys what That's what I'm talking about, though. There was a lot like there was there. They were like, well, no, we were we were a lot more competitive in this game. It was back and forth. It was one one till the very end. But it's like, yeah, but then you melted down, got a red card and conceded two more goals. So, yeah.
02:29:01
Speaker
Yeah, there was no excuse for that. um I actually predicted pretty much late in the first half, and I should have put it out, that Jackson going to frustrated and get a second yell. And I even thought if I'm him, I would have done it much earlier because I was like, just send me out this game. Like, i don't care.
02:29:18
Speaker
And the thing is, is it's hot as shit. it's yeah Well, it's also, i give up. And i know there's nothing else that this staff or this team is going to do to dig us out of this. So just whatever.
02:29:30
Speaker
That is a sign of not the mentality, but the spirit or lack thereof that this team has right now. And I'm not trying to like, so gas on the fire here, but I mean, this looks like 2016.
02:29:47
Speaker
and The team is acting like they did in that year, which by the way, you pointed out that we made that one signing. Yeah. The other thing that and if you want to give Garth some credit, that's a one-two punch.
02:29:58
Speaker
That was the season we lost Obafemi two days before the season started too. So he in six months went from losing Obafemi to gaining Ladero. Yeah. Do you think this front office is capable of either of those moves?
02:30:12
Speaker
I mean, come on. And i don't I don't blame it all on Craig. i don't I think he's out of his depth, but I think he's also out of his resources. Yeah. Yeah, that's a tough position to be in. being Being already maybe out of depth and then additionally not helped by any of those.
02:30:30
Speaker
Like anything else. Well, he might he may have spent all his cards signing De La Vega. And since that has basically imploded That was a great signing, and it's really fun to watch him play in the 15 minutes that he does. and ari Well, he's coming back for his his season, which is the Leagues Cup, and then he'll be done again in about a month and a half. He's the best Leagues Cup signing of all time. yeah yeah yeah I'm not even trying to be like the believer on that. I'm just saying that that's all there is. That's all we have to... like
02:31:02
Speaker
Like, I understand why you dismiss it offhand because of like the track record. But like what ah what else is if you were to craft the case in your mind of how to get out of this? What other case could you craft other than him being a key character?
02:31:16
Speaker
what so would i cra well So is it already elimination? i don't really remember League's I cared about what we wanted, but I don't know anything else about it. Is it elimination from the jump?
02:31:28
Speaker
it We had to move on? um for is a group nothing thing where you yeah know it's the No, it's the big it's the members is the big group thing. like There's one group teams. There's another group of like... Or no, it's the it's just done by League.
02:31:41
Speaker
No, it's done yeah only a certain number of leagues can – it has to be even. And you only play – yeah, it's so – So we can't lose the first game and be out. No, no, no. Because that's the way you get Patriots of Vegas. We just bomb out in the first game It's really hard yeah for them to be able to come back and actually qualify for the next round. That is true. If the format's the same as it is, as it was last year, if you get waxed in your first game, you are effectively chalked and you're not actually chalked, but you're effectively chalked. And the Sounders like they got first place out of 36 teams in that last year. so apparently the gods,
Team Regression and Missed Opportunities
02:32:20
Speaker
I guess, but they they were undefeated as they like to tell you. Yeah. Yeah. ah So was it, is it three games before the decisions ran? Yeah.
02:32:28
Speaker
Yeah. And is it are we playing all away? I don't mean not't even know. No, only one is away. Okay. the league Only one League's Cup, but the three games before that, two are on the road. Yeah. So if we do get banned in the first game, we could get two lame duck matches here in Seattle.
02:32:45
Speaker
That'd be kind of sick. Yeah. The Chivas game will be something. Yeah, at least we have Jimothy. Man, I don't mean i don't know. i don't i don't I have no idea. Like...
02:32:58
Speaker
but They've burned the candle at both ends. They've sold their youth. They're not signing anybody else. It's like, this is a regression to the means. like And this is this is two years in the making. like ah That said, it's only the fourth loss in the season. And given when they started it so well, it's like, you know, it's not scorched earth, but it's not freaking good. And they flushed away. that's I think that's the thing. That's the thing for the last three years for me, is if they just had that one or piece one or two piece more, what they could have done with what they already had would have been like domination. Like they, they could have been the caliber of what they look like and it's tout to be with just those one or two more pieces. And just really, I mean, we may have pulled another NLS cup in that time, but we're, we're on that, like treading water. Keep just as long as you can breathe, as long as you can float, as long as you can tread, that's what they're happy with. And I just, it's not fun.
02:33:51
Speaker
It's not fun. It's not fun. Hunch. Yep. Do you have anything else? I think. No, i'm good, man. I know it's been a long one, but but as somebody has stated, it's so important to have these post game. Like it really is. It builds community and it, it commiserates. It lets people vent.
02:34:07
Speaker
It lets people find out the positives. Hopefully i think this is the darkest time that we've had to cover since we started this show. Yeah. ah My, hope my hope would be that like it's, it can, it can act as a place of respite. Dude, that that five hour live stream we did after leagues cup was one of the most euphoric moments in my entire life but see see moments like that would not hit the same if we didn't have to deal with shit like this if you were just if you were just like on the high the whole time then like it wouldn't like you wouldn't appreciate it as much this is such cope but like i think there is some truth to it But it's it's ah it's an analogy for the game overall. Like, you could be at a 0-0 tie for whatever duration, and then suddenly you score, and it's your pure euphoria, and then you give up a goal 90 seconds later, and you like you're right back down to where you were. But you just know there's the possibility...
02:34:57
Speaker
You could score again. It's right there. You're just waiting for it because you know what both sides of it are. So and it's a microcosm for with you know the whole overall situation.
02:35:08
Speaker
So like I said, I appreciate it. It's just been a gut punch between the U.S. crashing out like they did and now these two yeah games. I was thinking about that too. Like the the back-to-back at Lumen Field of the U.S. crashing out like that and then the the Sounders getting waxed by the Timbys like that. That's just that's just a tough scene.
02:35:28
Speaker
Yeah, it's nothing good. And going to be while before we have another home game. So thanks guys. That's the truth. All right. All right, Nate, you are up and then Tim or Timbo. You were in the queue. You just had to drop out. Yeah, we'll get, we'll get Timbo and we'll get Timbo and Nate and Timbo. Cause you've been here. All right. You ready?
02:35:48
Speaker
yeah naep okay welcome man tip sorry don we're just good We're doing Timbo for it. You've been here. you got my my My stuff, reloading and stuff is down i'm dropping in, dropping out. yeah yeah yeah good Timbo, 3-1 L, Austin FC.
02:36:04
Speaker
Fourth straight loss. The squad's in shambles. The Crash Out Red Card boys are back. It's a disaster. It's a debacle. Why why didn't why don't we get the Crash Out Boys last game? That's what i was I was asking for. That would have been a better time to do it. in A better timeframe to do it.
02:36:19
Speaker
um Yeah. on On Jackson Reagan and, and it's really unfortunate. It's a really unfortunate error. Like, and and I think a lot of the defense has been put on him with the AMR being out, but now he's out now too. So yeah,
02:36:35
Speaker
um i'm not really looking forward to seeing tino lopez like back in but there's always opportunity to not get destroyed by philly like they're not a good team in the east right now but solvent brothers are gonna be back i mean they are the worst team in the league like numerically so well we we have not We have not been ah winning against teams, like at least on the table below us, like we should ah should be. and that And that is what it is. like It kind of speaks to a larger problem.
02:37:06
Speaker
um I don't think Brian's responsible for this. I know i know that people are kind of like, well, he made these changes and then the game changed. it's Yes, that's true. But I don't... I think...
02:37:16
Speaker
Paul Arreola coming in. I honestly thought they they made subs to go win the game i both for both Austin and and the Sounders at that point. and tell It's a 1-1 game. we're We're bringing in some heavy hitters in Paul Arreola, and does a stupid giveaway. And Brian spoke to it in his press conference, too. I know there's going to conversation and before Philly between him and Paul about, like, what the You know, like brought you in there to go win it for us. You have more pedigree. Right. you You've been around the block.
02:37:45
Speaker
Right. You know, this is a guy who who is has been a star in the league, has been on the U.S. men's national team. Like, what are we doing? But I think the other frustrating thing I saw in that play was they brought in KKR.
02:37:58
Speaker
And he just it seemed like he was just standing there and they kind of went through him to a certain degree, too. And that's something I don't expect to see. yet I really think plays better than that. but I don't know if that's why he's on the bench too, to a certain degree, right? I felt like the two the two guys we brought on kind of shit the bed, whereas they brought on Christian Ramirez, who was a great signing for Austin, you know, based on the fact that Ramirez came off, ah I think there was like a cap issue with LAFC.
02:38:30
Speaker
They pick him up. he He's done good things, did great things for them tonight, i think. controlling the, like, it just, they they were playing smarter ball to a certain degree. And that's, I think that's just frustrating to see you too, because we have those caliber of players.
02:38:43
Speaker
um They're all around the league and and ours didn't show up or haven't been showing up, at least most of the veteran side. i And I want to hear more from Paul Ariella too. Like, I don't want to hear from Roth, Paul Rothrock. want to hear from Paul Ariella about like, well, what was going through your head when you, that play, you to clear the ball or like, what were you, what were you thinking kind of situation? I think on that note, it's time to give Paul Rothrock the captain arms ban. I was just thinking that. If you're going to send him out during all these law after all these losses to answer for it when he's actually playing well. He's the most eloquent.
02:39:17
Speaker
He is the most die-for-the-badge guy. He fights for his teammates. He gets up in people's faces. Maybe he doesn't have as much pedigree and status as everyone else, but he's what you want in a captain.
02:39:32
Speaker
He can bring his guys back. i think I think it might be time to think about it. Definitely Sounders till I die kind of player. And that's... that's we We've seen... you know Even when I saw him walking off the field um last week, like you just look dejected like he It looked like somebody had stabbed him in the back and he had to essentially walk off the field. you know It's... um Yeah, I totally agree. I'm not going to hold Nuhu too close the fire on this one. i don't I think he had cramps and stuff and like...
02:40:05
Speaker
It's hot. And that's the other thing that people were asking about why Brian got the yellow card. There's an issue with the line judge getting new who back on the field at some point, like they brought medical attention over to him because I tried to get magic spray or cramps or whatever resolved and they held them off longer. And there was a big kerfuffle about that. And I think that's how Brian went over to the fourth and said something about it. Maybe that was it. Yeah.
02:40:29
Speaker
That's, that's how Brian got the yellow, which is very usual for Brian, but I'm glad to see it. like
02:40:36
Speaker
I'm glad to see Roosnat cussing tonight. i'm like We might need to get a little bit nasty here to fucking get some positives going. What
02:40:48
Speaker
else do want to say on Tsukunomi? Why don't we try him at number nine? like We cut him this week, but maybe he maybe he's guy you put in. He got a total of zero minutes. Signed him. Never in the end cut.
02:41:03
Speaker
like give give me He was an interesting character. He 25 and he had not had any real starting minutes. He was really good in next pro, but and i like I saw him play well for the defiance. Yeah. Yeah. and He seemingly couldn't cut it in training and stuff with, I don't know. i don't know. but ah I mean, yeah, that's a thing too. I mean, really, really would love to have, let me, let me look at this list here. Okay. I want to go down the list. Georgie.
02:41:33
Speaker
RBW, Atencio, Leyva, Vargas. Georgie's been average, though, to be fair. in fairness I mean,
Optimism for Young Players and Tactical Insights
02:41:40
Speaker
we can we can bring up Leo Chu, who's back in Brazil. like there's There's other guys. Give me Danny Leyva. Give me Danny Leyva. That's the biggest one for me. ah Danny Leyva, this double pivot.
02:41:51
Speaker
Definitely better than Dotson. has Has way more experience than Dotson, it seems like. um Ari's smirking like, that would suck still. No, sorry. I know i i've accidentally put my cursor over our stream on a different tab, and it just was the Chelsea guy yelling. Sorry.
02:42:10
Speaker
i I'll let you guys get to him, though, because that that has been a nice opening and closing. It's very yeah therapeutic. Yeah, we got to throw him on for the outro. Oh. Tell them about ice cream still works, unfortunately. It does it does make me feel a little bit better after these games.
02:42:26
Speaker
Yeah. but And then I guess the last thing, totally unrelated, but y'all should go see the Odyssey on IMAX. I saw it today. want to. I need to go see it. And and i got I got emotional. You'll feel you'll feel good about A captain of a team. telling that's a that's lot You know what?
02:42:44
Speaker
lena Ryan needs to take the team to go see go see the Odyssey on IMAX. We are cooking. That is a brilliant idea.
02:42:56
Speaker
Team bonding and inspiration all in one fell swoop. I think they should should get get to Philly a little early. It is a three-hour movie, so just just be prepared. It's an odyssey.
02:43:07
Speaker
Be honest. side it definitely I don't generally go see movies, like it's go to the theaters anymore. and I don't think a lot of people do, but this is one i will say out to the sound distinction. and And Brian and the team, go see the Odyssey.
02:43:19
Speaker
Make it a team event. It'll be a good thing. Love it. Well, thank you for that Odyssey, Timbo. We appreciate it. We'll see you next time. Be good. Yeah. See you next time.
02:43:31
Speaker
Nate, are you ready to close us out? Nate, you're closing down the house. Turn your camera on. i don't i don't have a camera. Sorry. I thought you might have had it off. No, no.
02:43:43
Speaker
um So I felt like tonight was kind of a rehash of some of the the issues from last season where Jesus and Albert kind of want to play the same position, where Jesus kind of wants to come inside more. There's no real vertical threat on that right-hand side. And obviously normally we compensate for that with the the fullbacks coming up.
02:44:00
Speaker
But, ah you know, as as soon as that doesn't work perfectly in our favor, there's just no attacking threat from out wide on the right. And it feels like it tilts the field super far to ah towards the left hand side. Paul Rothrock kind of carrying that burden. Obviously, tonight it was the heat that was the issue. you just can't send your fullbacks up and down the line for for 90 minutes straight there. So did you guys kind of see that while you're watching the game? What are your thoughts on that?
02:44:23
Speaker
Yeah, no, I think that's exactly an issue. And we were also talking about like the one-dimensionality of that. like they Have they scored a single goal this season that's not Paul Rothrock crashing the far post?
02:44:39
Speaker
like I don't think so, yeah. but There's a couple of penalties. It feels like every time they score, it's the same way, and that's usually a sign that other teams are going to be able to hone in on that and stop either stop that. Or it's like, you know, you might get a goal, like one goal in a given game, like they did tonight, but you're not going to be able to consistently score like that. Like you have to be able to hurt teams in multiple ways right now. It's spamming Roth rock down the left, which I'm, I'm in favor of that, but like, you got to have something else in the, in the bag.
02:45:11
Speaker
Yeah, it just feels like with him and Ferreira Ruznac on the field, they just want to they just want to occupy the same spot, and it's just not working. so Which they had gotten they had gotten better about that. It's kind of frustrating to see it backslide. I feel like it was looking a lot better really up until these last few weeks. They had, they had I thought, figured out how to coexist, but apparently not.
02:45:31
Speaker
Yeah, honestly, with how good KKR's looked on the overlap, like I think it's time to to try him out at right wing there, see what he can do. Yeah. I don't think that's a bad pick. they ran they They've run him out there a couple times. They did last year, and it was it looked kind of good.
02:45:47
Speaker
Yeah, he's he's got the sauce. He looks like he can you know he's a threat to do 1v1 and then you know hit that pullback to the spot for whoever's crashing. And I think he's limited defensively as a right back. like And I think that that got exposed, exposed against the Timbys. Yeah.
02:46:00
Speaker
ah he's very athletic. He's very fast. He's very talented at attacking, but he's not like a lockdown defender right back. Like Alex rolled on or like knew who is it left back? Yeah, absolutely. And I, liked what Pete did today. so I thought he looked good. I thought Peter Kingston was the best. Why did he get summed out?
02:46:17
Speaker
That was insane. Was he, was he just tired? he not? Oh, I think he might've been cramping. yeah Yeah. Yeah. Probably a match fitness or a tiredness thing. Yeah. Yeah, I would love to see that. think he did technically get an injury sub. So I think he was. pete This is my this is my agenda of the moment. Like Pete's a starter.
02:46:33
Speaker
I don't care if you have to put him at right back or if you move him into the double pivot or if you put him on the wing, which is, I think, where a lot of people who watch him play in his like earlier career think that that's actually his best position, I think. But like it's a mentality thing. He's fighting for his his career.
02:46:50
Speaker
Right now to like be an MLS player so he's never gonna go out there and not give everything and I thought like he was i don't question his effort in this game. Oh yeah absolutely not I think all the young guys look you know at least good enough to keep getting starts but you know some of the guys from like premium roster slots, you know Hassani Dotson i'm kind of over. You know, Areola, I have a little bit more patience for him because he's had good moments and everything. But it's just like if you're taking up one of those spots and you're not you're not performing, like, I don't know, get get ready to learn the bench, you know.
02:47:22
Speaker
Completely agree. um Anything to close this out here, Nate, before we go? I appreciated your your your tactical analysis and and genuine like pure takes on this match. I felt like that was a nice ah closer here to kind of sober us up from all the emotion.
02:47:41
Speaker
No, I appreciate that. And yeah, I love the Rothrock shout for captain. I think he's one of the only guys in the roster right now who's, ah you know, like living up to his contract. So, you know, how do you reward him? Give him the armband.
02:47:54
Speaker
you Signed an extension for 500 K a year and he's still outperforming it. Oh yeah. It's crazy. Well, Nate, thank you so much for calling in and closing out the show for us. You rock.
02:48:06
Speaker
And hopefully you'll call in on our next one. All right. Yeah. Thanks guys. Take care. nop See ya. Woo. Marathon stream and Ari, let's finish out with these super chats and then we're done.
02:48:19
Speaker
Um,
Concluding Thoughts and Community Engagement
02:48:20
Speaker
this was basically as long as our Timbers stream. So, um, we've been cranking these out and if you're appreciating that. Honestly, yeah. Like the, I think with these kind of, this kind of,
02:48:30
Speaker
not unprecedented, but they haven't struggled like this in like a decade. So the fact that everyone is so locked in and engaged and keeping us going for a three hour post game stream, like shout out to you guys. Like we only do these for as long as we have callers. And the fact that you all just feel so passionately about this team and wanting to get your takes out there and voice your agendas and grievances, like, like we love it, man. Like that's what we're here for. So yeah.
02:48:55
Speaker
Absolutely love it. Well, we've got some gems. I've enjoyed this new gems thing. I just want to know what they, like, if it's just like gems that don't do anything, I'm going to be pissed. No, I think we get money. I think we get money from them. But so give us some more gems. Disc golfer. Thank you for being a 19 month member. I feel like we haven't had a disc golfer call. Yeah, just call in next time. We miss you. We love you. I don't know who's at fault right now, but something does have to change before I want to spend money on this club again.
02:49:27
Speaker
That's very fair. I think there's lot of common sentiment. And like, if the, if they don't want to, if they want to dismiss this as like ungrateful fans who are not giving enough equity to the trophy case and don't know what they're talking about and you want to flex built, not bought and thumb your nose, you can do that. But eventually if it keeps going like this, people are going to feel like that and not want to spend the said money. Like, I think it's funny that the season ticket renewals went out the same day as the Timbs game. Like, i go okay guys, like,
02:49:57
Speaker
Not going to tell you how to how to run it, but... But careful. Careful. Yeah, I agree. And, you know, if you don't want to give the Sounders money, but you want to still be involved in supporting soccer, there are plenty of other opportunities to do that, including becoming um a YouTube member with Lobbing Scorchers. Or you can check out, we're doing ah a new project at lobbingscorchers.com. Hint, hint. If you made it through all the way, go there, check it out. Just maybe sign up for the email to know when that gets launched. But also, yeah, watch our videos, like our videos, drop us some gems or whatever. um
02:50:36
Speaker
So there's other ways. But I think that this is like withholding your season ticket deposits and this vote on the GM. It's going to be a tough time for ownership over the next few months. We got another we got 1000 gems. We got a Corgi. We got a Corgi with 1000 gems.
02:50:55
Speaker
And Greg says, thanks for your show and providing a place to vent. It's as much cathartic for us as it is for you guys. So we appreciate getting to just spend some time in the community of awesome like-minded people. It makes the L's a lot, not as bad.
02:51:11
Speaker
It really does. Like, it's kind of the best. And last but definitely not least, two recycled organs. At least we still have Jimothy. At least we still have Jimothy. And that's that.
02:51:24
Speaker
Thank you all for watching. Oh, there's one more? oh we just got another one. got a 10-bomb to close it out. 10-bomb to close it out. A few bucks for y'all. Thanks for the catharsis after these rough nights. Some hope you have rolled on. We'll shake up the vibes when he's back on the pitch again.
02:51:39
Speaker
I believe in Captain Christian as well. Ari, take us home and... Yeah, i mean, let's let's wrap her up right on that two hours and 50 minutes. So, yeah, thank you guys for tuning in Appreciate you guys ah again. Like the fact that the team is doing so poorly right now and we still have our our shows go off like this.
02:52:03
Speaker
ah we We love that for our for our view counts, but we also love that we can be a place where the fan base can gather and just have these conversations and vent together and commiserate and all that good stuff. So we will see what happens from here with the Seattle Sounders, you know?
02:52:22
Speaker
they are They're in a situation right now where they're a wounded animal. Everyone is down on them Everyone thinks that they can't do it. Everyone thinks that the GM is going to get voted out. Everyone thinks that the owner is broke. Everyone thinks that the DPs are bunk. No one thinks that Pedro de la Vega is coming back. No one thinks that there's any hope right now. So you know what? It's in, it is in their hands though.
02:52:47
Speaker
It's in their hands. They have these games to play coming up. How are you going to respond? Are you going to lay down and die? Are you going to go down without a fight? Or are you going to, are you going respond? And at the very least, if you're going to go down, are you going to go down swinging? That's what I'm going to be looking for. Cause that's, that's frankly what I want to see. If you are going to go down, go down with a fight, but We're going get out of here on that.
02:53:09
Speaker
Appreciate you all. Love you all. We'll be back at it. Uh, Saturday for Philly. So we'll see you in the podcast on Friday and a podcast on Friday. Also go check out our, um, our world cup awards podcast that we dropped yesterday. Yeah. So that's, uh, that's out now where we go through and relive the world cup. If you want something to take your mind off this team, but on that, we're going to get out of here for the night. Appreciate y'all. Love y'all. We'll catch you next time.
02:53:36
Speaker
Peace. Bye.