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XII Champs...AGAIN + Who Do We Want in March Madness?
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Welcome to Episode #45 of the No Conference for Old Men Podcast.
Our Houston Cougars are now Big 12 Champs 2 years in a row, after methodically taking down both Iowa St with ESPN GameDay on site & then coming back with a Big Monday payback win over Texas Tech in Lubbock! Next up is yet another Sat / Big Mon set of games hosting both Cincy & Kansas for our final games this season at the Fertitta Center. The 3 Old Men provide recaps & preview the games this week, & then look forward into March to weigh in on "What matchups do we want & which ones do we want to avoid?" come Tourney time.
Please have a listen as the 3 Old Men weigh in & discuss the topic of the week, as well as provide some quick-hit game summaries and previews.
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Transcript
Introduction to Episode 45
00:00:07
Speaker
Welcome, folks, to episode number 45 of the No Conference for Old Ben podcast, podcast where three-year-old guys are talking Houston Cougars basketball with a bit of Big 12 coverage added in as well, and proud members of the GoCougars.com network, the undisputed number one Houston Cougars content provider.
00:00:22
Speaker
We're here today with all three of the old men, Tom Lidiak, former coach, Bill Walker, former player, and myself, Steve Chang, analytics guy for this episode.
Cougars' Recent Victories
00:00:31
Speaker
Well, Cougars go 2-0 this week against the toughest pair of games of the season with wins over ISU at home, 68-59, and then turning around for a quick big Monday win at Tech, sixty nine to sixty one to earn at least a share the conference championship for the second time in two years in the Big 12.
00:00:48
Speaker
An incredible achievement for Samson's program with still three games to go. Just unreal. Now comes yet another pair of brutal Saturday, Big Monday set of games, thankfully at home this time, against what we thought would be two teams at the very top of the standings along with us.
Upcoming Challenging Games
00:01:04
Speaker
Cincinnati on Saturday followed by Kansas on Monday. In the first win over ISU, two key starters were out for ISU and Jones and Gilbert, but hats off to our Houston squad for staying focused and keeping things strictly business in dispatching the always tough Cyclones.
00:01:19
Speaker
While the Tech game, where they were also down two players in Williams and McMillan, it was more about providing a bit of payback of the one conference loss this season in a raucous Lubbock environment.
00:01:30
Speaker
But we pulled it out, and now we can pivot to looking ahead towards
March Matchup Predictions
00:01:33
Speaker
March. So the special topic this week is going to be around... Who we actually think we match up well against come March? Looking at some of the likely one and two seeds and maybe sprinkling in a few three and four seeds as well.
00:01:45
Speaker
So let's get into it. In dissecting our wins against two of the top four teams the Big 12 this week, let's begin with a postgame analysis of the business-like win over ISU at home. Then we'll transition to your thoughts on the satisfying Big Monday win over Tech to celebrate winning the Big 12 championship on their home court.
00:02:03
Speaker
Let's start with you first, Tom. What were some of the things you saw from a coach's perspective in the ISU game?
ISU Game Analysis
00:02:09
Speaker
Well, first of all, if you're unaware that ISU was playing without their two top scores, you were reminded by Fran Fraschilla, I think every, uh, uh, two, three, four minutes, uh, you know, love Fran Fraschilla, but after a while it gets kind of, it gets kind of nauseating.
00:02:25
Speaker
And as U of H, uh, Basketball fans, we know too well about injuries the past several years. So there's not a whole lot of sympathy coming on our end.
00:02:35
Speaker
ah You still got to go out and play the game to win. As far as the game itself, two words ah jump out at me, and that's step back as in LJ, cry or step back jumper.
00:02:46
Speaker
ah The one he's been using since he was in third grade. According to Jamal Shedd, LJ was just fantastic. You know, there some people on the message boards, blah, blah, blah, whatever, saying we reverted too much.
00:02:59
Speaker
We relied too much on just giving ball to LJ and, you know, playing give and go basketball. Just give me the ball and everybody else get the hell out of the way. But, you know, if you got a player like that in your squad and you can get a disadvantage, you go for it.
00:03:13
Speaker
but Some will say, man, we'd been in a lot of trouble if we didn't have LJ this game. Well, you know what? Same thing. You say same thing about the Celtics if they didn't have Larry Bird in the game or Michael Jordan for the Bulls.
00:03:28
Speaker
Man, if Michael Jordan saved us today, well, yeah, it's a good thing you got him on the team.
00:03:36
Speaker
LJ clutch shot after her clutch shot. They were really pressing Milo's 40 feet from the basket. But then again, when you work so hard to deny a guy like Cryer the ball,
00:03:48
Speaker
And then you're up and your point guards grew, so there's nobody help on drives. And Milo's was able to get to the rim several times and score. I thought we had too many possessions ah where the shot clock was winding down. We really haven't had that issue all year long.
00:04:02
Speaker
But gave credit to ISU for playing good defense. Had a 16-point lead. Kind of looked like we might be running away with the game. And... Instead, we turned the ball over several times. ISU wasn't having to play a whole lot of offense there in one stretch because we were turning the ball over and they were scoring on some of those turnovers.
00:04:23
Speaker
And then it comes down to the last minute, minute and a half. Magic Johnson used to call that winning time. And. I think we were up but three or four, and Emmanuel gets the ball. Shot clock's winding down. He's got a good matchup on him.
00:04:37
Speaker
I think they switched out on him, and everybody knows what Emmanuel's going to do. You know, he takes couple of dribbles, and then he hits a step back. Had to be from probably 30 feet from Kingwood, and that was the dagger.
00:04:52
Speaker
ah Emmanuel hits that one. That was the icing on the cake, and and set us up for the Tech game on Monday. Nice. Bill, how about your views of the ISU win from a player's perspective?
00:05:06
Speaker
Well, to piggyback a little bit on what Tom was saying, let's start out with what the TV guys, Sean B. and Farshilla, have harped on ad nauseum over the past two games.
00:05:18
Speaker
We caught a break because ISU and Tech played shorthanded. And in this game, State's top two scorers, Curtis Jones and Keyshawn Gilbert, were out. Did we benefit?
00:05:29
Speaker
Yes, we did. no argument about it. But did people associate our losses ah last year with asterisks because Roberts was hurt, Arsenault was out, Tuggler was out?
00:05:41
Speaker
ah How about Duke making the Final Four, which never comes close to happening, if Shed doesn't go down? And this year, Sharps missed time. Javier's been out.
00:05:52
Speaker
Jawan's been hurt. Cryer's been hurt. Ramon's out for the year. The point is injuries hit everyone. Everyone experiences them at certain times. And, you know, sometimes you're the beneficiary and sometimes you're you not and you're at a loss. It just happens.
00:06:10
Speaker
Back to the game. you know Give State credit. We made the game look easy in the first half, scoring 34, limiting State to a mere 22. ah Clearly, State and Oxlberger made some adjustments at halftime.
00:06:24
Speaker
They really ramped up their defensive pressure on the perimeter, and we didn't respond especially well. Milo, despite a great shooting game, committed four turnovers to only one assist, which is an absolute rarity for him.
00:06:39
Speaker
Sharpen Pryor also committed multiple turnovers, which made the game ah sort of a tale of two halves. And ah State ended up stealing the ball from us 10 times. ah What we did do well was we hit shots.
00:06:52
Speaker
Yuuzhan was 7 of 10 for 19 points. And our MVP, Cryer, who you mentioned, Tom, 11 of 17, 5 of from for Just ah great game. but We shot over from the field,
00:07:07
Speaker
fifty nine percent from three you know giving up thirty seven points in the second half isn't ideal But RD was its typical outstanding self, 59 points for the entire game, and ISU shot under 40% from the field.
00:07:25
Speaker
Despite seven steals defensively, Jefferson and Mancilovich were putrid shooting the ball, shooting 5 of 23 and 2 of 10 from deep. Mancilovich hit a bunch of free throws, so he he did score 16, but We held a lot of their shooters well under their typical field goal percentage.
00:07:49
Speaker
but What concerns me still a bit is Tuggler's fouls. you know But a win over a top 10 team is what really matters, and that's what happened here. So we're good.
00:08:00
Speaker
Yeah, from an advanced analytics perspective, looking at this ISU game, this was the one game we had this year against our key nemesis for the crown last season in the Big 12. This season was more the same atop the conference standings, and both came in as arguably the two most balanced teams in the conference, but definitely with the two most hard-nosed defenses in the conference.
00:08:21
Speaker
With two starters out, it was no surprise that we really disrupted things on offense for ISU. limiting them to 38.5% from two-point range and turnovers on 20% their possessions.
00:08:32
Speaker
The only thing that ISU was able to do on offense was from the three-point line, where they hit 40% of their shots. Again, our one area of degradation on D this season. For us offensively, honestly, i don't think we could have shot any better. Effective vehicle percentage was at almost 64% and 59% from three-point range.
00:08:52
Speaker
Key stat of the game that ultimately kept the game as close as it was was around turnovers, where we had a terrible day on that front with turnovers on 27% of our possessions. Of course, ISU's Inspired D had a lot to do with that.
00:09:05
Speaker
We'll take the 68-59 win, as you guys have both mentioned, and move on because a big Monday road showdown with this season's nemesis was still looming in Lubbock versus Tech.
Tech Game Highlights
00:09:17
Speaker
For Tech, yet another short turnaround for this game, plus the crazy delusional fans in Lubbock. And this was a payback game for the one loss we did have this season at home. Let's begin with you first, Bill.
00:09:28
Speaker
What were your quick thoughts from a player's perspective versus Tech? Well, 69-61 win. i felt pretty confident that I would have ah predicted this one absolutely correctly as I predicted us to win 69-62.
00:09:46
Speaker
of course, missed it by one point. Now, in my defense, I was completely unaware that all-world unicyclist and bowl catcher on her head, Red Panda, would be performing at half.
00:09:59
Speaker
We've always played well when she comes out at halftime and flips countless bowls on her head. had i Admittedly, had I better researched the game and known she'd come out at halftime, I would have adjusted my prediction accordingly.
00:10:13
Speaker
ah What I did know and what I told and texted several friends at halftime was that Tech had no chance in the second half due to Red Panda's appearance. None at all.
00:10:24
Speaker
So... ah Thank you, Red Panda. now This was a really pretty ugly first half. At one point, I yelled at the TV, we need you to step up, Emmanuel.
00:10:37
Speaker
And almost on cue, he hit back-to-back threes, and we were least at halftime, course, prior to Red Panda. of course prior to redpad ah you know They really shut down Cryer and Roberts in the first half, Cryer for the game, but we did hold them to 33% from the field in the first half, which, by the way, was their best shooting half, and 20% from three.
00:11:04
Speaker
Post-Red Panda, we showed that we were the better team. Yuzan needed to take over offensively, and he really did, including that absolute three-point dagger late. Roberts got the ball.
00:11:16
Speaker
He drew fouls and hit his shots, which offset Crier's one of five night. Where we really shined, though, was defensively. Tech shot under 30% for the game.
00:11:29
Speaker
And listen to these numbers for five of the six players who played for Tech. ah Their best player, Toppin, 6 of 18 from the field. Their shooting guard, Anderson, 2 of 11 and 0 of 6 from 3.
00:11:43
Speaker
Their point guard, Hawkins, who hurt us the first game, 2 of 10, 2 of 7 from 3. Kerwin Williams was far and away their best shooter, and he was 4 of 11, all of which were three including a couple of just bombs, deep bombs late that kept the score relatively respectful.
00:12:04
Speaker
ah Tech also committed only three turnovers in the first half, but had 10 for the game, which is obviously attributable to our strong defense. Yeah, playing without McMillan and and Williams hurt Tech.
00:12:16
Speaker
But you know what? Again, if Shed doesn't get hurt last year, we roll through Duke. We roll through NC State. We beat Purdue. We play UConn. And we possibly, at least temporarily, shut up Danny Hurley.
00:12:30
Speaker
you know, it goes both ways. Two final points I'll make. One, and it happened with Tuggler again. He can't be picking up bad fouls, ah the the you know, following the three-point shot late.
00:12:44
Speaker
he can't be limiting his playing time. There's a fine line between aggressiveness and foul, and we need his aggressiveness, but we need it on the floor. And my second point, if there's an award to be given,
00:12:59
Speaker
For the most rude, obnoxious, classless fan base, maybe ever assembled, pro or college sports, congratulations, Texas Tech.
00:13:11
Speaker
You are Big 12 champs and probably national champs. Completely agree. Tom, how about your coaches view on the game versus Tech? Like Bill said, Tech fans, annoying.
00:13:24
Speaker
ah you know they They should hang a banner saying something like, You know, we almost beat U of H without our ah ah top two scores, blah, blah, blah, and all this. But you know what?
00:13:36
Speaker
They only played six players, but that that was their choice. If you take their six players who played, the two that sat out, that gives you eight players. You have Devin Cambridge as the ninth player. Then you have four or five other guys on the bench.
00:13:50
Speaker
You know, why didn't you play those? If death became an issue, you know, why'd you recruit them? Yep. It just happens we had said last year because of injuries last year. We had a said lot come in there and not just in a non-conference game. We had him in there when we played Kansas when we were still fighting for a big 12 title. So ye no sympathy from this Houston Cougar basketball fan.
00:14:13
Speaker
As far as injuries go, heck we lost Sasser. We lost a tremor mark for the season, not just for a couple of games, lost them for the season and still made to the elite eight. So, yep.
00:14:25
Speaker
You know, cry me a river. and I don't want to listen to it, but getting back to the game, was it 33, 30 at halftime? And, uh, it was kind of a kind of rough for where I thought about the 13 minute mark. It was kind of getting sloppy on both ends.
00:14:43
Speaker
Bill alluded to, ah too much fouling. There was a period there where it just seems like, uh, we just, uh, we, I think we had like three fouls on, on one possession. Uh, but you know what? We're the Houston Cougars.
00:14:57
Speaker
Uh, you know, what do we do? we play tough and the tougher team wins. And speaking of that, when they beat us 81 at Fertitta, when McCastlin was kicked out, uh, when they left the locker room, I guess on the whiteboard and Fertitta center, it said the tougher team won.
00:15:16
Speaker
And, um, you know I think we probably got a hold of that. They even had t-shirts made up. It's ridiculous. They had the student body and who else wanted to wear it? Those black t-shirts for Blackout saying the tougher team wins.
00:15:29
Speaker
That's something else. is you know It's one thing to tell it to your team that the toughest team wins, but leave it on a whiteboard for the other team to see when they come in there. Maybe not such a great idea doing that.
00:15:40
Speaker
um and Then we beat them. It kind of looks like maybe Female handwriting. I'm thinking maybe Lauren Sampson, but on our whiteboard, it's a couple of our players ah took pictures of it and put them on their Instagram accounts. It said, uh, back to back big 12 champ and the toughest team won.
00:16:01
Speaker
Uzan scores 62 59. we had the ball and, uh, Cryer drives the lane. He kind of momentarily loses it. He he regains control.
00:16:12
Speaker
He kicks it out to a wide open, uh, Milo's Uzan and Uzan just, uh, just hit a dagger that put us up by six. And don't know if anybody admit ah saw that, but when they were coming out of that timeout, there was a timeout right before that possession.
00:16:27
Speaker
And Milo was talking to Coach Sampson, and he was kind of like nodding his head. And it was almost like he was saying, Coach, we got this. you know, something's going to happen in this possession.
00:16:40
Speaker
And then he hits that big three and then he turns to the bench. I'm not sure if he was looking at Kelvin or. Yeah, it was Kelvin. Or Qantas or whoever, but yeah, just, just a dagger.
00:16:51
Speaker
Milo Suzanne.
Cincinnati and Kansas Game Previews
00:16:54
Speaker
Boy, what can you say about him coming in here and following the footsteps of Jamal Shedd kind of got off the little rocky start. He had some doubters, but now he's he's comfortable.
00:17:06
Speaker
His confidence is sky high, and that's great for us i'll heading into this last stretch of Big 12 play and into March Madness tournament. Yeah, just incredible growth for him over the season.
00:17:18
Speaker
Just so fun to watch, right? So as you guys had both mentioned, yes, Tech had two starters out. And boy, their fans whined about it incessantly after the game.
00:17:31
Speaker
But you know what? Don't give a shit. but We never made excuses, right? When we lost Terrence and Tugler last season or Sasser and Mark three seasons ago.
00:17:42
Speaker
Come on, it's next man up. And guess what? We actually won conference championships both seasons and we lost those players for extended periods of time. So I'm relishing our first season in a while with some, fingers crossed, good health coming into March.
00:17:59
Speaker
Now, from an advanced analytics perspective, this was yet another defensive masterpiece for Samson against Tech. We limited them inside and out, even with Toppin playing this game, with effective field goal percentage for Tech at a lowly 35%, 20% from three-point range, and 41% from two-point range.
00:18:17
Speaker
What allowed them to keep things close was their offensive rebounding, which was ah very, very impressive 42.5%. On the flip side, we shot lights out from three-point range offensively at 50%, and it was the Milo's use on a Jawan Roberts show.
00:18:33
Speaker
And even though Roberts didn't shoot at a high rate. Boy, he was so clutch with free throws yesterday. And we won on the road, celebrating yet another championship on Tech's home court.
00:18:45
Speaker
And boy, how sweet it is. Now let's get to a fun pair of games coming up. Against two teams, we actually thought coming into the season would be at the top of the standings with us in the Big 12.
00:18:58
Speaker
Hosting Cincinnati on Saturday first, and then Kansas on another big Monday matchup. Great matchups that all three of us will actually be in Houston for. So let's provide a quick preview and cover both games together.
00:19:12
Speaker
Tom, you can go first from a coach's perspective on both games. Well, when we're talking about Cincinnati, high expectations for Cincinnati coming into the season by lots of people. And once conference plays start, they just didn't get her done.
00:19:29
Speaker
Probably one of the most disappointing teams to start off conference. Yeah. ah They're in a dogfight now just ah to make the NCAAs. They are playing better the last seven or eight games. I think they're five and two or five and three in their last seven eight games.
00:19:43
Speaker
So they're kind of playing like people expected them to. you know, there's talent there. They got a good coach at Wes Miller. But for some reason, it just wasn't clicking.
00:19:55
Speaker
At the first part of the year, they had some really, really bad losses. So it's going to be a dogfight. We're at home at the Fertitta Center. Like Steve said, knock on wood, we're healthy.
00:20:06
Speaker
ah got three games left in Big 12 play. ah We just need to go in there, take care business on on Saturday. But by no means will it be a quote unquote, eat, eat, easy game.
00:20:18
Speaker
Since he's like a wounded animal, you know, they've got their backs to the wall. They know like every game for them is a tournament game. It's like an elimination game. So we're going to get their best shot. We always get teams best shot. Yeah. When you play the Houston Cougar, we got a bullseye on our backs and and teams usually give us their best effort.
00:20:37
Speaker
but So yeah, so Cincinnati on Saturday, get one day, Sunday to prepare, whatever. And then Kansas comes to town. If you listen to podcasts, you know how much I love Kansas.
00:20:49
Speaker
not
00:20:52
Speaker
Kansas, to me, they're like front runners. They play pretty well at home, but they get on the road where ah to win on the road, you got to be a tough team and they play possum. They roll over and play dead on, ah on the road.
00:21:09
Speaker
You know, people are always thinking, okay, one of these days, Kansas is going to wake up and and click, but they just have ah too many flaws on that team. I don't know. Roster construction, AJ store didn't work out with them. Don't know what the deal with that is. uh, it's almost like nobody knows what their roles are.
00:21:29
Speaker
ah you know what on offense. They're not connected on defense all the time. ah They played great against us when we played them in Allen Fieldhouse. We'll just see how they play us on Monday. but
00:21:43
Speaker
I have no pity for Kansas. They've won their fair share of Big 12 titles and national titles. and it's It's just a new era of ah college athletics, college basketball. and ah Bill Self has not done a very good job of ah either signing particular players or ah getting them to understand what their roles are. I don't know what the deal is, but there's definitely some flaws in the Kansas basketball team.
00:22:12
Speaker
Yeah. And you're all broken up about it, aren't you, Tom? but I'm just ah i'm just so heartbroken. you know I like to watch Kansas play. I actually used to really like Kansas back when Roy Williams coached them. I just like to watch, as a coach, I like to watch them play.
00:22:31
Speaker
Not so much anymore, especially that they're in the conference now with us. It's like a train wreck, though. You know you shouldn't be watching, but I like to turn the TV on and watch Kansas play, especially on the road because it's probably going to be an L.
00:22:44
Speaker
I love it. How about you, Bill, from a player's perspective? Cincinnati, Saturday here at 3.30 on CBS, nationally televised.
00:22:57
Speaker
Cincinnati, 17-11, but they're 7-10 in conference, ah sitting in 12th place in the Big 12. Cincinnati's shocker to me.
00:23:08
Speaker
I thought... I thought they'd be a real sleeper this year. I thought they'd challenge for a top five spot in the big 12. I thought they'd perennially be in the top 20 this year.
00:23:20
Speaker
And they were at one point, they were 10 and one and they were nationally ranked heading into conference play. Uh, By the way, the other team that I would say is almost as shockingly bad is our next opponent, who was preseason number one nationally. i know.
00:23:38
Speaker
With that said, ah since he's had had a few good wins, but they've definitely had several bad losses resulting in their mediocre record. They did beat a pretty currently shaky Baylor team last night, 69-67. 53, I believe, in Ken Palm.
00:23:54
Speaker
ah fifty three i believe in ken pom really pretty poor all year offensively, but solid defensively. Since he has 10 guys that are playing 10 or more minutes per game, but none that are playing more than 28. So they're rested they will be ready to go for the NIT.
00:24:17
Speaker
Ha! Brutal! Sorry. Ha! you know I'm not even sure i'm not sure who to highlight as some of their top scorers are now coming off the bench. and so Here's what we've got. The one player who has not come off the bench and started all year, Jizzle James, ah the 6'3 guard. He's Edgeron James, former NFL player's son, Hall of Fame NFL player's son.
00:24:43
Speaker
Leads them in scoring about 12 and a half a game. He launched 20 shots against Baylor. That'll probably continue versus us. ah He's quick. He's an inconsistent shooter, but he can get hot, and he leads them in assists as well.
00:25:00
Speaker
Dan Skillings, 6'6 junior shooting guard. He's now one of those players coming off the bench. He's just barely under 10 points a game.
00:25:11
Speaker
He's shooting really poorly this year. He's historically been a decent shooter, but this year he just can't. shoot And so they moved him to the bench. Dylan Mitchell, some of you may remember, six eight junior forward.
00:25:25
Speaker
He spent the last two years at Texas where he started, played against us twice last year, transferred in to Cincy this year. He's averaging 10 a game.
00:25:37
Speaker
This is odd, an odd combination. He leads them in rebounds and steals. He shoots 62% from the field, but 23% from three. And the last guy I'll mention is Seamus Lakotius, 6'8", senior forward. He's their second-leading scorer.
00:25:52
Speaker
He's now coming off the bench, just like Skillings. He's... only at 40% from the field this year, but he's still shooting 36% from three. So we need to make sure he doesn't get hot.
00:26:04
Speaker
You know, this this team has really underperformed this year, especially once they got into a conference play and they're not going to turn it around at Fertitta. Although they do play hard and they will play hard. They'll play physical. They'll defend pretty well.
00:26:20
Speaker
My guess is we'll, we'll likely see sharp, maybe a fair amount on James with, with Cryer. And I think Wilson will get a fair amount of time to play against James as well.
00:26:31
Speaker
You we move the ball. Well, we take advantage of Roberts and Tugler inside where we definitely have an advantage. ah We hit the boards where they're not great and we defend their perimeter game.
00:26:42
Speaker
And this game's a lock. I have us winning Kansas. four
00:26:48
Speaker
kansas Big Monday, 8 o'clock ESPN. They're 19-9 overall, 10-7 in conference. Good for sixth place. This team was picked to be number one overall nationally, and they're in sixth in the Big 12.
00:27:06
Speaker
I would say Cincinnati is up there, and along with North Carolina, maybe the biggest disappointment of the year so far. However, the media, the bracketologists, the ranking people somehow still have Kansas as a projected five seed, while BYU is a projected seven, despite the fact that they have the same record as Kansas.
00:27:36
Speaker
BYU beat Kansas by 34, and Kansas has been less than abysmal if games are played away from Lawrence.
00:27:47
Speaker
ah They're currently 21 in Ken Palm, but they're dropping. And, you know, as their offense continually disappears, that that's pretty much what's responsible for it.
00:28:00
Speaker
ah Most of you will remember the miracle ninety two eighty six double overtime win we had at Kansas. The problem is as I mentioned and Tom mentioned as well, is that like last year,
00:28:13
Speaker
This game will not be played at Fog Allen. They'll be on the road, so do not expect another classic. you you know Dickinson's still a presence inside. and K.J. Adams and Badunga have been solid. Badunga was great against us when Adams was out.
00:28:29
Speaker
All three players' numbers absolutely better at home than on the road. And the same can be said for a talented group of guards, ah Zeke Mayo, DeJuan Harris, Ryland Griffin.
00:28:45
Speaker
It's just almost a night and day difference between playing at home and playing on the road. And then the last player I'll mention, of course, A.J. Storr and his multi-million dollar price tag to transfer from Wisconsin is probably actually KU's most consistent player.
00:29:01
Speaker
He's been terrible both at home and on the road.
00:29:06
Speaker
Kansas is a lock for the NCAAs, although they, listen to this, they finish up at home versus Tech, then they come to Fertitta, and then at home versus Arizona.
00:29:17
Speaker
yeah Not easy at all. yeah All I'll say for for this game is, if we play hard, if we're aggressive, we hit the boards, we roll. 76-55. seventy six fifty five Oh, yeah. i I've got a pretty close forecast for that game as well. So nice i mean from an analytics perspective, first this NC game, they're just not the team we thought they were going to be.
00:29:42
Speaker
We all picked them sixth in the league and ranked coming into the year. But boy, have they fallen off a cliff after a hot start. But they're still 53rd in 10 bomb, as you had mentioned. Bill. So since he's number 88 and adjusted offensive efficiency and number 24th and adjusted defensive efficiency and Ken Palm, while we're holding steady at number seven and adjusted offensive efficiency and number three and adjusted defensive efficiency this season.
00:30:07
Speaker
So this will be another defensive battle in the big 12 with some physical play expected. Cincy offensively is just a terrible shooting team this season, just like last season. They're 131st in effective field goal percentage, and particularly weak from three-point range where they're 205th in three-point percentage.
00:30:24
Speaker
Only thing Cincy does well on offense is not turning the ball over where they're ranked 40th in turnover percentage. On D, just like last season, Cincy doesn't do anything exceptionally well, but they're just good all around and very, very physical.
00:30:38
Speaker
But with this year's Cougars team being so well-rounded, it's going to be just a really tough matchup for Cincinnati. As the number three team in three-point shooting percentage in the country, expect us to test their media for three-point percentage D, where they're ranked 98th.
00:30:53
Speaker
And with Cincinnati being terrible at three-point shooting themselves, you can bet we're going to pack it in and dare them to beat us from the arc. Based on the metrics, this is expected to be a 16-point win at home for the Cougs based on Ken Palm.
00:31:07
Speaker
Though since he just beat TCU and Baylor at home, I view this as just a bad matchup for them. So I'm predicting a bigger 20-point win for the Cougs. Then for the KU game, a rematch where you know KU will be looking for payback.
00:31:23
Speaker
you know based on our Houdini act in Lawrence to pull out the win. KU's been playing better this week, but they've still got a tough Saturday matchup hosting Tech, as you guys had highlighted.
00:31:34
Speaker
Even in a down year, they're still coming in at number 21st in Ken Palm. Now KU's 58th in adjusted offensive efficiency and number five in adjusted defensive efficiency.
00:31:45
Speaker
So it will be another defensive battle in the Big 12. On offense, KU has really lost its way this season, being really inconsistent. They don't shoot the three very well, ranking 147th in Ken Palm.
00:31:56
Speaker
And for a team so dependent on the two-point shot, they're really just good from there as well, ranking 75th in effective field goal percentage from two-point range. So expect us to monster inside and pack it in to dare them to shoot from three.
00:32:10
Speaker
Griffin has a monster day versus us from the arc when we were in Lawrence. So assume we'll always be aware of where he's at. On D, KU is still great all around, especially at defending every shot.
00:32:23
Speaker
They're number 8th in effective field goal percentage D, and they're 13th in both 2-point percentage D and 3-point percentage D. So thankfully, they don't pressure the ball much where they're 210th in steal percentage.
00:32:36
Speaker
So in this rematch, expect us to spread them at the arc for threes, bounce with some post-up of Roberts in the paint to keep them honest. I also expect this to be an opportunity for both Arsenal and Francis to get on track heading into March.
00:32:50
Speaker
Based on the metrics, this is projected to be an 11-point win at home for the Cougs by Ken Palm. Hard not to get up for KU when they're in town. So I think we make a statement Big Monday win with a bigger 20-point Cougars and cut down the nets.
00:33:07
Speaker
Now, since we've wrapped up the Big 12 League Championship so early, how about we all look into March and weigh on who we believe we match up well against in the tourney and who we prefer to avoid early on in the tournament.
00:33:21
Speaker
Obviously, we'll do a deeper dive once the actual brackets come out. But for now, let's have some fun and just focus on top two seeds and maybe a couple of three and four seeds we prefer not to pair with, as well as the reasons why.
00:33:34
Speaker
So, Bill, why don't you go first?
Tournament Matchup Analysis
00:33:36
Speaker
And what's your take on the projected top two seeds in the tourney and who you would actually want to pair with and who would you want to avoid?
00:33:46
Speaker
Well, I'm unless the the I think I mentioned it last week, unless the committee is on fentanyl or or something.
00:33:58
Speaker
we're We're going to end up a one seed. We're going to see us closing out the season. We may lose in the the Big 12 tournament. Maybe, maybe not. But I don't see us losing up to that point.
00:34:10
Speaker
And the SEC teams, are are a lot of the top ones are playing each other down the stretch. and Yeah. there's a time for everyone to lose. And unfortunately for them, it's about to hit. And, ah and so I think we end up with a one seed. yeah i agree to Yeah. To beat us.
00:34:32
Speaker
here's Here's what I've written down. The teams have to be tough. They have to protect the ball. they have to rebound well. And there are lots of teams that do that, but ah especially to beat us, I think you have to do two things really well.
00:34:45
Speaker
One, i think you have to have, quick, tenacious guards to cause our backcourt problem, both getting into our offense and being able to get off uncontested shots.
00:34:58
Speaker
Number two, you've got to have scorers and specifically shooters. I'd say at least four scorers on the court and three shooters on the floor to neutralize and and possibly beat our double teams.
00:35:14
Speaker
So with all that said, yeah I was looking at basically the top 20, and I have six teams that I see because they can score and because they defend the perimeter well.
00:35:30
Speaker
Six teams that could beat us. and Ironically, it's three from the SEC and three from the Big 12. Auburn, yeah Florida, Alabama, Texas Tech, Iowa State, and And the outside team is Arizona.
00:35:49
Speaker
arizona The possible teams to beat us, Tennessee, Michigan State, and St. John's. And I'll just tell you, um Auburn's got scores and they play defense. They're they' one of four teams that are ranked in the top 10 offensively and defensively in Ken Palm. They're one offensively, they're 10 defensively. So they can do both.
00:36:13
Speaker
Florida, number two, they're four offensively and seven defensively. They defend and Well, they defend, and they've got multiple scores. Not great scores, but they've got multiple scores.
00:36:28
Speaker
Alabama, Alabama's a bit of the outlier. ah They're number five offensively. They're only 43 defensively. We'll be able to score with them. They're just such a good offensive team. It's going to be a matter of who can...
00:36:44
Speaker
neutralize the other team's offense the best. And I think that's us ah from our conference. You know, we've seen tech recently, Tom, you had mentioned, we could end up playing tech four times. if We play them in the big 12 tournament, but when they've got all their players, they are deep, they can't score, they can't shoot. and And they defend the perimeter. ISU defends the perimeter, but they're not playing all that well right now, but they'll,
00:37:10
Speaker
They'll get it going. And arizona Arizona has played actually very good defense this year. They could beat us, but I think that's a bit of a read.
00:37:23
Speaker
Tennessee is ah the possibility. They're one defensively in Ken Palm, but they're 27 offensively. They slow down the ball. They kind of play a little bit similarly to us, but I think we're the better defensive team. I think we control Temple better than they do, and I think we beat them.
00:37:39
Speaker
Yeah. Michigan State is kind of a wild card.
00:37:45
Speaker
I think they're going to be the best team coming out of the Big 12. I'm sorry, the Big 10. They're a possibility because they play pretty well at both ends. 21 offensively, 12 defensively.
00:37:57
Speaker
And then the last one, and this is number nine, is St. John's. They're two overall defensively. They've got some talent, but they're 73 offensively. They typically don't shoot very well. If they were to get hot, they can cause a problem.
00:38:15
Speaker
And then real quickly, the four teams that have no chance against us, Missouri, who's rising up the rankings, they could finish top three in the SEC.
00:38:26
Speaker
ah They don't play defense. They won't beat Gonzaga, their defense is mediocre as well. They're not tough enough. They won't beat us. Wisconsin, number seven. And I know, Steve, you and I may be talking about this offline, and it may involve dinner. And I hate the fact that I'll be betting against my former school, but I just don't think Wisconsin's strong enough defensively. yeah you know They actually got rid of the aforementioned AJ Store. I know.
00:39:01
Speaker
They brought in a great, who's been a great two guard for them, Tonje. but I just, I don't see it happening. And the number one team I think has no chance against us would be the team that has the best ratings, number two and offense, number four in defense, and and that would be Duke.
00:39:24
Speaker
Duke has played absolutely nobody in the ACC. Duke may have just as well been in a division two conference. I think Clemson's overrated, even though they beat Duke.
00:39:38
Speaker
yeah I think that whole conference is is not only weak this year, but I don't think anyone in that conference is tough. I don't think anyone that conference defends. Well, Duke could score and they're,
00:39:53
Speaker
Once again, they're number four defensively. But that's against the ACC. I mean, good deal. We'd be one with a massive bullet if we were playing the ACC schedule. You know, you've got Yeah, the statistics are the statistics, but you've also got to take a look at who you're playing. and I think but once you hit the conference schedule, Duke's played nobody. They did just have a huge blowout over Illinois on a neutral floor, but i'm just I'm not sold on Duke. i I think they've got a lot of talent, a lot of offensive talent. They do.
00:40:26
Speaker
I do not think that that they come up against us. They're going to be caught so entirely off guard by the defense that, uh, I just don't see them having a chance. So, yeah, I mean, I think that point is legit, but, uh, I think I've come around on Duke in terms of their ability it and I always have to, and I'll get into it, uh, when it's, when it's my turn, but, um,
00:40:51
Speaker
You know, you could say the same thing about us just a few years ago when we were in the American, right? That's what everyone was saying about us. It's like, yeah, we're were throwing up these gaudy stats against a again ah bunch of nobodies, but we still pounded teams, right, come tourney time. So we'll see.
00:41:07
Speaker
We still played teams in the American your favorite team, Steve, Memphis, ah Cincinnati, Wichita State made, made runs in the tournament. I don't think the ACC is, is at any time during the American was the American while U of H was in it as mediocre as the ACC is this year. Yeah, possibly. How about you, Tom? What were some of the teams that you were zero in on?
00:41:34
Speaker
ah Here's my take. In my opinion, And I'm not going by any data. I'm just going by my eyeballs, what I've seen. I think the top three teams right now in the country are but U of H, Auburn, and the aforementioned Duke.
00:41:50
Speaker
I agree with you. Jeez, used to respect you guys. I'll give you the reasons why. Hey, close to 40 years ago, i used to like Duke, but that was ah back when they had, you know,
00:42:05
Speaker
grinders on the team. i yeah They were good solid players, but they didn't get the five stars. But anyway, I digress. You guys were talking about the ACC once again, grown up. I started watching college basketball probably mid-70s, and the ACC was the shit. I mean, I think there was only eight teams in there, and every single team was ra was really, really, really good. Every game was was like must-see TV.
00:42:32
Speaker
But I don't know. It's it what happened right not much not much there. Speaking of UNC. NIL. Yeah, UNC.
00:42:43
Speaker
ah you know I don't know what they're going to do because Hubert Davis just signed a contract through the next like six years or so ah for them. um so Anyway, getting back to the the topic here, I think the top three teams right now are us, Auburn, Duke.
00:42:58
Speaker
However, if we see them It would probably be semifinal in the final. We've already played Auburn. We were up on them 41-32. That was the game I think Terrence Arsenault terrence arsson was still on ah ah kind of like a restricted minutes thing. I don't think he even played in the second half. It had to do something. The game was played in the Toyota Center, and they didn't have, ah I don't know if it was an exercise bike or something to keep ah to keep his Achilles warm. And yeah that's why he was pretty much shut down on the second half. And JVA had come off like 19 straight days of no practice.
00:43:38
Speaker
Yep. And we still had a nine point lead. Give credit to Auburn. They made the plays down the stretch. I think it was like our second game, Auburn's second game. That little guard they had, Pettiford, first game, I think he had zero points. Whoever they played, he had zero points. And so He went off against us for like 19 or 22 or something like that.
00:44:01
Speaker
I think, actually, I think if we make it all the way and win it, some of our, maybe our toughest game would be if we had to play ISU or Tech, like in the Elite Eight.
00:44:14
Speaker
Not sure how the seating will be. agree. Just because of the familiarity that both teams have for each other. ah You know, it's hard to play a team three or four times Now, there's a disparity in how good teams are, there's no problem playing a team three or four times if you're just so superior to them. But ISU and Tech are no slouches. It depends on where the game's played. It depends on a lot of stuff.
00:44:38
Speaker
Health is going to be a big issue. Knock on wood, hopefully we go into NCAAs and everybody's 100% healthy, which we haven't been able to say since I don't know when, maybe back when Galen and and Corey played, Corey Davis played, but That's the way I see it. There's some other teams there.
00:44:57
Speaker
Florida, I just saw them ah last night. They were down thirty nine to thirteen i know to a Georgia team. ah Tennessee has had their moments, so ah not so great moments. A&M, I think I'm looking here as I speak.
00:45:15
Speaker
They're about to lose to Vanderbilt at home. Beautiful. Vandy's a good team. yeah But you know on your home court, you're probably expected to beat Vanderbilt if you're looking to get like a second seed is what yeah but they're talking about.
00:45:30
Speaker
It's ridiculous. That's that SEC bias maybe coming into play. If you notice, A&M did not make my list. ah Okay. Yeah, keep them out of your mouth, right, Bill? Well, I just don't think they're that good. Yeah, neither do I. Yeah. but Like I said, maybe some of that SEC bias coming into play.
00:45:51
Speaker
ah You know, lot of high-scoring games in the SEC, high 80s, 90s, some games into the 100-point. So I'm kind of wondering how good the the defense that's played in that league.
00:46:05
Speaker
Bama is really offensive-centric, you know. yeah I heard Kelvin once say, if you walk into a practice, within 30 minutes you can tell what a coach emphasizes, whether it's ah offense, defense, blah, blah, blah, rebounding, whatever.
00:46:19
Speaker
My guess if you walked into a Nate Oates practice, they're working a lot time on offense. You've got a lot of firepower, though, but then again, if you take away transit the baskets and you take care of the ball, then it becomes a half-court game, and it's a whole different ballgame.
00:46:36
Speaker
For six games in a row, is to me, it's kind of kind of tough. um they I think we've played the perfect blend of... I know. It's killer. What's that again? Alabama's 3-0 against us over the past three years.
00:46:49
Speaker
Yeah. And with 12 losses last year, they made a run all the way to the final four. yeah Lost to UConn.
00:47:00
Speaker
No, I give them credit. I give them credit. But I'd say we played Bama a second time. Yeah, I love it. We beat them probably, maybe like in the Elite Eight would be probably a ah matchup there, but I'm taking our chances on any team we play. I still say we're going to win it.
00:47:17
Speaker
Agreed. Just because we're the Houston Cougars and we play defense, we rebound. A lot of people are saying this is so Kelvin's best offensive team since he's been yeah at U of H. We've proven we can win different ways. you know we're We're a true team.
00:47:34
Speaker
ah by definition, it's because we don't have to rely on the same guys game after game after game yeah or for scoring, et cetera. You know, the other day it was LJ. The other day it was Milo's.
00:47:46
Speaker
Jawan had a stretch of what, about three games there where but he was the guy that was scoring a bunch of buckets. Emmanuel, you know, last year, what did he have, 30 against A&M in that A&M game? Or was it the Duke game? I can't remember. Duke game, we didn't score that much, so it had to be the A&M game. But you know it could be It could be a manual.
00:48:07
Speaker
So a we're a true team in the sense of the word in that you don't have to shut down one guy. You shut down one guy or try to shut one guy down, it opens up opportunities for other guys because you're playing four-on-four then. Yep.
00:48:22
Speaker
Yeah. Oh, interesting list, guys. So when I view things from an advanced analytics perspective, And I went to bracket matrix as well. And I'd say, you know, quote unquote, the likely top eight for the top two seed lines will be everyone's got Auburn, Duke.
00:48:39
Speaker
I think Bama, given their non-conference wins, will still get a number one seed. And then I think it's either us or Florida as the number one seed. And I'm going to say it's going to be us. Then on the two line, we probably got Florida, Tennessee, Michigan State, and For now, people still have A&M, so I've just got them tentatively there, even though I agree with you guys.
00:48:59
Speaker
They're not good enough to be at that seed line. And then at number three, I've got ISU, Tech, Wisconsin, then possibly even St. John's because I believe they're going to win out.
00:49:10
Speaker
And then for the four seed line, I've got Arizona, Michigan, Kentucky. And then kind of a surprise team, either Clemson or Maryland, because I think certainly certainly Clemson will will win most of their games. And Maryland, I'm actually pretty impressed with, though I think they lost today.
00:49:25
Speaker
If we're a number one seed, only team I would really slightly prefer to avoid as a number two seed is probably Florida, since they're the most balanced of the teams in that group.
00:49:37
Speaker
Because they're fourth in adjusted offensive efficiency and number seventh in adjusted defensive efficiency. But the others like Tennessee, and Michigan State, A&M, they're all defensive focus with gaps on the offensive side of things.
00:49:48
Speaker
And with time to prepare, I think we shut down all of their preferred actions on offense. Though honestly, even now, I still think Florida is overrated as well, especially after watching the game yesterday versus Georgia.
00:50:01
Speaker
They're built like us in terms of size. They play rugged D, but their bigs are primarily less athletic bruiser types, which I think we do well against given our athleticism and length at those positions.
00:50:15
Speaker
But if this plays out the the way we're expecting it, where we're in number one, I think Florida gets placed in the East with Duke anyway. So I don't think we're going to be matched up with them. Now, God forbid, if we end up being in a two seed, the primary team I like to avoid until the final four is Auburn.
00:50:31
Speaker
I mean, to me, they're the most balanced team I've seen in the last five years, along with last year's UConn team and then the Baylor team in 21. Now, with where our team is at today, I think we can beat them, but I'd rather not find out until the final four, preferably.
00:50:49
Speaker
Of the other teams, I wouldn't mind being paired with either the other likely SEC teams, Florida or Bama, because I think we match up well with them, even though we've lost to Bama the last three times.
00:51:01
Speaker
And though I do believe Duke is overrated, given how light the ACC is, What causes me some hesitation, though, is their overall length. If you look at their lineup, all their wings and guards are 6'6 or above.
00:51:17
Speaker
And length at those positions have given us problems historically, both from a scoring perspective as well as from a guarding perspective. Though I don't, you know, I agree with you, Bill, where I don't think Duke's group of freshmen have experienced our level of intensity yet.
00:51:34
Speaker
So even here, i like our chances, but if given the choice, if we're a number two, I prefer not to be matched up in their region. Now, if the remaining teams in the top 16, I'm going to eliminate all the other Big 12 schools since I'm hopeful, I guess, the committee spreads out the teams as best they can, like they've historically done.
00:51:55
Speaker
Probably the two teams I'd like to just see in another bracket, maybe earlier on in the tourney bracket, are Maryland and St. John's. Maybe even Clemson too, but I'd say Maryland and St. John's.
00:52:08
Speaker
St. John's because of how hot they've been and Rick Pitino. I mean, he's a great coach. And even though their offense isn't very efficient, you know, they're a pressing team and we don't like to be pressed either.
00:52:21
Speaker
But Maryland and Clemson are solid balance teams that have been, I believe, somewhat overlooked. Maryland because they're young and Clemson because they're in the ACC. But if you look at how they've played, they, you know, they've got, especially with Clemson, they've got older kids.
00:52:38
Speaker
They made a run last year as well. So yeah. I mean, in the end, I think our team is so good this year. that Clemson's been overlooked because they're they're just not that good.
00:52:49
Speaker
I mean, Ken Palm, they're actually not that highly rated either, right, given where they're at. But I put a value on age, too. I think they've got an older team, so we'll see.
00:53:00
Speaker
If I could avoid them like earlier on the in the tourney, I'd just as soon see them later on. But I guess we'll see after these next couple of weeks, but it's always fun to kind of speculate and project out the potential matchups, especially since we've already wrapped up the Big 12 at this point.
00:53:17
Speaker
The one team that did not appear anywhere on my list of, of 20. And I, you know, mentioned 13. Yeah. yeah ah The one team that did not appear anywhere with Tom's favorite team, Kansas.
00:53:34
Speaker
You got it. Oh yeah. Hey, you know, yeah Utah state. I mean, another, another team that none of us have mentioned are kind of the other, big east teams right no one mentioned yukon no one mentioned marquette no one mentioned creighton either right so they've kind of good reason good reason they weren't mentioned yeah they've kind of fallen off too right this season so i was never a believer in creighton no no no but getting back to kansas and they continue to play the way they do they have like um
00:54:08
Speaker
What do you think they're ranked? Five? Five seed, maybe? They're a five, but... got a 12 seed, over five seed, written all over them. With the three games they have left. Exactly. With the three games they have left, Tom, they could easily be a six.
00:54:22
Speaker
Yeah. Okay. I imagine they're going to be a six. So six for 11 over a six, whoever. might easily happen. Yeah. So let me ask you guys this on a completely different topic related to the tourney and kind of the big 12 in general. Do you guys believe Baylor will make it still?
00:54:44
Speaker
I mean, they've been in a tough, tough stretch as of late. I just think the bubble looks so weak this year. The teams that are on the bubble. Man, I mean, it's it's probably some of the weakest bubble teams I've seen maybe forever. Just bad bubble teams.
00:55:03
Speaker
I haven't looked at their... And there are only three games left yeahp in the Big 12 in the regular season. I don't know who Baylor's playing, but right now, the last I saw, they were a projected 10 seed. So that's... you know When you consider all the...
00:55:21
Speaker
All the teams that are, and I'm saying this in air quotes, are mediocre. The smaller teams that win their conferences, that's right down near the very end of the at-larges.
00:55:35
Speaker
So yeah, buter Baylor could be in trouble. Yeah, because they've got Oklahoma State at home, TCU away, and then they play us. So... I don't know. Okay, so they could go two and one.
00:55:48
Speaker
They need to go two and one. Yeah, was going to say they need to because they've lost three in a row at this point. Yeah, they need to go two and one. By the way, one thing I wanted to bring up, I was stunned.
00:55:59
Speaker
A couple of us were looking at this. Joe Lenardi from know the ESPN Bracketologist put out a... the entire bracket and who was going to win everything. And he had, I think Alabama and Auburn and the in the championship.
00:56:17
Speaker
He had us. It's funny today. He had us a one yesterday. He had us a two. And, and in that bracket, he had us a two and us losing to Alabama, but he also had a number one seed losing to a 16.
00:56:35
Speaker
Really? And that was, What, Duke? The mighty, formerly Rick Smith's-led Marist over Duke. Really?
00:56:45
Speaker
In one, yeah. And then, funny enough, despite the fact that I just was not too complimentary of them, he had Alabama-Auburn-Michigan coming out of that region.
00:57:01
Speaker
as a four seed and a five seed Clemson making the final four. Wow. You know, as much shit as Lenardi gets, I'm surprised that Jerry Palm doesn't get more shit. I have more, i typically have more issue with his bracket predictions. I mean, Lenardi at least had changed ours to a one seed right after we,
00:57:26
Speaker
beat tech. Jerry Palm, he was on the radio today. He still had us as a two seed. It's like, what are you looking at? Right? So. and Behind Florida.
00:57:37
Speaker
yeah Yeah. And Florida had lost, right? We had already had some big wins. So it's like, what do you was looking at? Right. He was on the radio today. And not only did Florida to lose, but to be down 26 points in the first half,
00:57:51
Speaker
To four and ten Georgia team. Yeah, that's not a good look. Yeah. yeah Every team that we've lost to is going to be in the tournament. No question. No question. San Diego State's still good enough. They're in.
00:58:06
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