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The One About Natural Disasters

S2 E47 · On A Water Break
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Join Ricardo as he hosts with Trish, Austin and Joey a discussion with some amazing clinicians about the crazy weather the marching arts has had to deal with, specifically our most recent dealings with hurricanes.

Join us along with guest clinicians

Jeannine Ford - @tarponconservatory

Pat Miller 

Kevin Young - @enkaband

Eros Trujillo - @fixitgrunt

Dive into the "Water We Doing" segment, where the hosts engage in thought-provoking discussions and provide insightful commentary on the various experiences and challenges faced by marching arts professionals and participants.

Celebrate the triumphs and achievements of the marching arts community during the "Gush and Go" segment, where the hosts enthusiastically share their excitement and pride in the remarkable accomplishments of their students, staff, and programs.

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Introduction and Weekly Topics

00:00:00
Speaker
Hey, everyone. We are back for another week of exciting rehearsals. This week, we are talking disaster planning and recovery. We'll also find out what made Trish say, Well, no, I would still need you to chaperone one of the buses. I'm like, it's game one.
00:00:16
Speaker
I voted for 2009 for this. And why Austin said, I want, I want that. I want this one. I want that one. I want this one. And the next thing you know, if, you know, if you're good enough, you might have some drum and horse fighting over you. I think that's funny. All this and more, so get out on the field and we'll see you back on the sidelines for this week's episode of On A Water Break.

Impact of Climate Change on Bands

00:00:37
Speaker
Eight off the Met and go. Welcome to On A Water Break.
00:00:55
Speaker
Welcome to another episode of season two of On A Water Break, the podcast where we talk about everything you and your friends are talking about at rehearsal. On A Water Break. I'm Ricardo Robinson-Shenall. And as FanTober begins to wrap up one thing that some bands had to deal with this year that many did not, it's the ever-changing climate and the scarier and scarier natural disasters that occurred this year.
00:01:20
Speaker
With hurricanes ravaging the country, many bands have had to pivot or almost completely stop their fall seasons.

Judging at a Unique Festival

00:01:26
Speaker
But before we dive into it, let's see who's on the sideline this week. Joey, you're back again this week and you have some exciting guest clinicians you brought. We'll get to them in just a second, but I also heard that you were judging the state championships in Wyoming. Absolutely. um I've been judging for about 10 years at this point, and I thought I'd seen it all. um The Wyoming State Marching Band Festival is held in an ice rink. It's 20 to 20 with the front 20 cut off by the hirsch horseshoe. And that's not the craziest part of it at all. you know Being there in Wyoming in the rural space, like ah they told us, like hey, we're kind of behind the times, and I was expecting
00:02:12
Speaker
you know Not what I saw, like they they're really not behind that as far behind the times as they said. But the other thing that I thought was amazing is if you weren't currently warming up, you were in the stands and supporting the group that was going on. The amount of camaraderie there was incredible. like I love that. Yeah, they would they would say like, you know, from so and so well Wyoming, duh, duh, duh. And like, they would literally call the groups to attention and they would stand at attention as the group paraded on the floor. It was it was so cool. I had such a fun time and it was cool to be around all the trooper friends out there.

Balancing Personal and Professional Commitments

00:02:44
Speaker
I hit troopers bingo for the first time in my life. It was just an awesome experience. Oh, this feels like fun. Yeah. i I had another friend that was judging with you, Ali Weber.
00:02:56
Speaker
And Michael Weber, they were judging at that show, too. So that's awesome. Trish, my love, I was being sober for you. You know, I do, I do fine, too.
00:03:10
Speaker
how's your band's over ben It's been crazy. As a matter of fact, I was so jealous that I couldn't be the on the episode about Bantober because I was doing Bantober. It's been really, really crazy. but it's you know It's it's rough enough. We've state championships on Saturday and Nationals at MetLife Stadium on next Saturday and then we're done and then we jump right into your guard. So all good here. Nice. Well, good skill to you this weekend at your state championships. Thank you. Also good skill to your baseball team, the Yankees.

High Costs of World Series Attendance

00:03:51
Speaker
Oh, now a lot of people up on this podcast that are trying not to hear me, but I could see two faces right now showing their gear right now. I'm going to show my Aaron judge MVP, even though he didn't really do much in the ALCS, it's all good. um That's another episode. That's another issue with bands over. I'm trying to work out. I have to go to a football game Friday night, game one, and state championships on Saturday, game two.
00:04:21
Speaker
you and That's why we have cell phones. You can watch it. I know. That's exactly what I'm going to be doing. um One of the playoff games I was at a show and I had my AirPods in and I was like, oh, I'm listening to commentary, like for commentary.
00:04:36
Speaker
so trying to figure all that out. But you know what? I i sadly, although I am a Yankees partial season circuit holder, I will not be going to the World Series sadly because I priced out my seats section 214A at Yankee Stadium Saturday morning before the Yankees have even clinched three grand.

Experiences with Hurricanes and Community Resilience

00:04:59
Speaker
now wow ah Now they're up to 4,000. So, not happening. Yeah, I saw that the other day. The nosebleed seeds are like, they start at like two grand. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow. All right. Well, Austin, you are down here with me in Florida and you know all too well the issues we have down here, but you know, what's going on with you?
00:05:23
Speaker
We're good. Um, it's been fun. We're finally starting to wind down a little bit of on the back half a band over which is not normal for me which but I'm kind of welcome to it. um Luckily my side of the state didn't get didn't get too bad of the hurricane from what I understand I mean, I wasn't in town, but what from what I understand we didn't even lose power So, you know what? I see there's a win. I really thought there was gonna be a tree on my car There was not a tree on my car. It was okay You did get a win man, especially without losing power in Florida. It's too hot. I know I mean, I wouldn't have been here anyway, but still I
00:06:02
Speaker
i was more worried about the kind I was more worried about the contents of my fridge and my car than anything else. but nothing happened, so I'm okay. Yeah, I'll talk about that later when we get into the weather stuff about my fridge and my car and the power and all of that stuff. But we have a few guest clinicians joining us tonight, all of whom have had some issues with the severe weather this year. And I'm very excited because our first guest is my nearest and dearest and my permanent Valentine.
00:06:34
Speaker
We'll talk about that later on, but the one, the only, Pat Miller. Pat, how are you? I'm doing great. Thanks, Ricardo. It's awesome to be here. So, Pat.
00:06:47
Speaker
When we have guests on this show, we do a little thing with them. It's called a 32 count life story. So you're going to get eight clicks off the net. And then you are going to tell us in 32 counts, don't rush, don't be slow. Don't drag the phrase. You're going to tell us your life story from birth all the way up to, I mean, what you have for dinner tonight, whatever, whatever you feel like stopping is where you stop it. Okay. Okay. Sounds good. All right. You ready to do this? Eight off the net. You're in. Here we go.
00:07:19
Speaker
ah ah Well, I grew up outside of D.C. and um I have, obviously, like most of us, done music just about all of my life. I grew up in Virginia and went to George Mason University, march cadets, late 80s, then started teaching drum corps and teaching high school marching band. And with all of those things, I was a band director for most of the last 30 years.
00:07:43
Speaker
But i I taught in private schools a long time So gave me the opportunity to continue to live in this world and do marching band and all of that I now live in Asheville, North Carolina begin of weather after having spent 22 years in Florida Yeah, all right That's a good story. You left out all the important parts that, you know, the reason Pat is my permanent Valentine listeners is because for the last 10 years, Pat and I have worked together side by side and both of our spouses worked in the food industry. So we would always have a winter guard rehearsal on Valentine's Day and our spouses would both be at work serving everybody else.
00:08:23
Speaker
So we have been each other's permanent Valentine for the last 10 years, 10, 11, 12 years. so Yeah, something like that. Yeah. It's been a good while. It's been a while. It has been a while.
00:08:34
Speaker
All right, and another great perspective we get tonight is from a performer and what they have to go through. So eva's Eva wins performer, Eros Trullio, who is a student at Western Carolina University. Eros, you just heard Pat give his 32 count life story. We want you to do the same thing. You understand how it goes? Yep. All right, you're going to get eight off the bet, and then you are in, sir. Sweet.
00:09:07
Speaker
All right, so my name is Aleister Hillel. I was born in Chapel Hill, North Carolina. um And then my whole marching arts story begins in a little town called Benson. That's where i I like went to high school. And then I went to West Johnston. I performed four years of all the different ensembles and stuff like that. And then my senior year, um I got this amazing opportunity with Joey Montes to create a group called EVA Independent. And so that's where I am. And then currently I'm studying music education here at Winston Carolina University. Fantastic. No arrows.
00:09:44
Speaker
little
00:09:47
Speaker
So Pat, you are now currently making your life as strictly like a drill designer and drill writer. Eris, you are a performer and a student, and you both are in the state of North Carolina. What was it like living in a state that's not supposed to get hurricanes, or should I say living in an area that's not supposed to get hurricanes, and then all of a sudden you get this massive hurricane that comes through and just tears up everything?
00:10:16
Speaker
I will say having lived in Florida for the last 22 years and we've been through our fair share of them when I moved up here in May, it was not on my bingo card that this was going to happen. ah It's been interesting. It's been a very, very interesting process. We didn't have power for 10 days and I was still finishing shows and trying to send off drill and access to Wi-Fi. Yeah, it's it's been an adventure that I don't think I expected to have happen, for sure.
00:10:44
Speaker
Eris, what about you? um So this is really like my first time ever experiencing like a hurricane. And what's weird about it it, it was in the mountains. You wouldn't expect a hurricane to like just show up and tear apart like cities and towns up out here. But my experience so far here, like boots on the ground has been pretty bizarre. I never thought I would see like you know cities that like big cities like Asheville underwater and then like little like towns around it like absolutely decimated and destroyed.
00:11:13
Speaker
oh Um, so whenever it hit, I was still in school. It hit like that Friday morning. And then I clearly remember that we lost like here at WCU, we lost internet and cell service for around 30 hours. Luckily the school here has set up landline so we can contact our families. And I didn't manage to go home shortly after, but, um, I decided to come back and help the people here. Cause I just felt guilty seeing so much destruction.
00:11:42
Speaker
And you know so much lives changed. So I helped clean up some of the areas here and like and some of the ah food pantries around. Wow. You're just a great person you know to think about um others you know in this situation and to go and put in the work. and that's That's awesome. So you do a core style show. Has your program at Western Carolina been affected because of the storm? and school being out all that good stuff oh yeah absolutely it has affected us a lot so um i give you some perspective um before the storm hit we had just finished like our first game of the season so we had only performed once in uniform though so far this season and um
00:12:31
Speaker
whenever it hit, we had only just performed the first movement of the show. But our um or um current band director here really wanted to like you know try to like put on put the entire show together. So whenever we came back um last week, around like Friday, Thursday, we basically did like like half like a mini band camp sort of thing all over again. So we like we managed to put the rest of the show on within a day and a half. And so we went from running like just part one of our show to like the whole show.

Guest Clinicians Share Insights

00:13:04
Speaker
So it was pretty cool. It was pretty magical. And then we ended up doing here at WCO, we host um Tournament of Champions, which is like a marching band competition. A huge marching competition. I went there on Saturday. It was good.
00:13:17
Speaker
Yeah, it was it was pretty amazing seeing like like how many bands still came out, even though a couple of them did decide not to come. um we We put on a good show, I'd say. it was pretty It was pretty special what we did here and for the community. So that's what I'm proud of so far. And then um on Thursday, we're heading out to perform at um the Bands of America Super Regional here over there at St. Louis. So that's pretty cool too. Heck yeah.
00:13:46
Speaker
Yeah, that's cool. That's gonna be a good trip too. I think it's awesome the fact that you guys only have one movement of the show on and then all of a sudden you got to have like two day, a day and a half a camp and you put the rest of the show on. See, that's amazing, an amazing feat. Yeah, they can only be done by talented performers and talented directors who can put that on.
00:14:11
Speaker
Pat, in your world right now with getting drilled and shows done for people, what have you noticed has been the trend for people completing their shows? ah All of that good stuff? but Generally, and in most cases, it just slowed the process down. Just getting people, one, I was able to getting stuff in people's hands. It just took me longer individually to do it because I had to write at home and then I had to go down to the hospital to get Wi-Fi.
00:14:39
Speaker
access power and do all those things. We had a generator here, but it didn't give me access to Wi-Fi. But the programs were all, it just, they were all behind schedule. And I have five programs in Florida, and every single one of them was a little behind because of that. It just took them longer to get it done. And that, you know, because some missed a week of school, some missed week a week of half a school up here and in Buncombe County, where I live in Asheville. They've been out for three and a half weeks now, and they're starting to go back at the end of the week.
00:15:06
Speaker
they're finally going to get to go back into school here. The ah school with the director you're going to have on later on today, his school did it kind they did the Western Carolina University show this past weekend and they're not even back in school yet. But they allowed them to start rehearsing and practicing last week at school, all the athletics and and and band and things. So they're finding ways to work around it, but just everything got slower. My process was a little slower and and everybody was just slower and teaching and learning what they had to do.
00:15:33
Speaker
Some programs just had their first show last weekend between missing football games and competitions. You know, it's just, it just really, you know, look at the end of September to the first part of October. And that's, you know, that's, that's, and so that's a huge amount of time right there for everybody's schedule. Even in Florida, that's really the the center part of all their shows. And for other states, that's nearing the end of their season. So it's, as it is up here, there's only like two weeks left of shows up here. And some groups just had their first one.
00:16:02
Speaker
it's just It just took everything longer. Now, unfortunately, everybody is doing it and everybody's getting back into the group, which is great. There's nothing better than when you hear about you know finally able to rehearse, finally able to get their stuff done. But it's it's it's it's been an interesting situation. I don't think I'd ever thought I would experience one of this magnitude. And ah like what he mentioned earlier, the the areas around here, um but some of the towns are just decimated and the fact that they can do anything.
00:16:28
Speaker
is is is impressive just to get any program functioning. I really try not to talk about um the the craziness that we all went through four years ago, but you know this kind of sounds like what we had to go through with COVID and trying to find ways to get music education to continue through the unbearable and unimaginable.
00:16:52
Speaker
and ah you know As terrible as that that experience was for everybody, I feel like in these instances, you know it's proven that it made us stronger, it made us you know think outside the box. So, I mean, being able to rehearse when there's no school, being able to... and like you know I sent UDB drill and like there's kids learning drill on Roblox right now across the nation, um you know finding those directors that are finding opportunities for their students to continue with music education and continue with art.
00:17:20
Speaker
I mean, I applaud them. and and and in this and And in this instance here in Western North Carolina, you know ah ah all of these those directors are just trying their hardest to keep their kids um active and and out of the craziness. And it's amazing. It's crazy.
00:17:37
Speaker
I completely agree with you, Joey. It does, hearing these stories does remind me A, of COVID and B, a little bit what we went up here, what we went through in the tri-state area up here when we had super storm Sandy.
00:17:52
Speaker
I remember that ah we were getting ready for the Superstorm Sandy. this was This was a band director, a go for us. And we worry you know we weren't a super competitive band at that time, which was fine, whatever. But um we had our big festival coming up that Sunday and Sandy was supposed to and did hit that Monday.
00:18:17
Speaker
And I remember the band director calling me. Turns out, the sad part of the story is he ended up, I think he knew, but he ended up retiring at the end of the year, so he never got to do that big festival, but like his last one. But he called me that Sunday, oh or maybe even Saturday, I don't remember, and he said, the festival's canceled. And I said, well, why?
00:18:39
Speaker
And he said, well, because the storm is coming. I said, yeah, Monday, but what does that have to do with Sunday? And he said, well, we can't expect people to come out and watch a marching band show when they're running to the store to buy batteries and.
00:18:54
Speaker
gas and stuff like that. So they canceled it. And it kind of made me think about when you just mentioned COVID, like weren't we trying to, like once we found out we were going to be quarantined, trying to squeeze every little ounce of like freedom out? like I was trying to, at that point, I was trying to say, can't we just get that one show in before we you know before it starts pouring and you' winning on us?
00:19:18
Speaker
one And the same, right, and the same thing with COVID. You know, as a teacher, when I found out that, you know, we were going to not, you know, that Friday, I think it was like the 13th and much of what it was going to be our last day of school, driving home from school that day, I was like, well, I wonder if I should take this, this, this, and this on my way home before I end up in quarantine. So it's kind of like, you know, we're trying to squeeze that little ounce of normalcy that we have. see
00:19:48
Speaker
oh Yeah, and getting back to it as fast as we can, you know? And especially thinking about kids and their mental health, like getting them back to something that brings them joy. Like I just applaud all these directors who jumped on and were ready to go.

Updates and Tributes

00:20:04
Speaker
All right, I think it is time for us to do a little bit of news.
00:20:26
Speaker
So I'm gonna go ahead and start off with some news that is wonderful for our On A Water Break family because we have a new addition to the On A Water Break family. So on October the 11th at 1239 p.m. baby Marianne Lynn, our own Jackie Brown, her baby came into this world
00:20:54
Speaker
seven pounds, 10 ounces and 20 inches long. So guys, I know that like you don't get to know all of the behind the scenes stuff that happens for auto water break, but In our chat group, you know Jackie was saying for days, she was just like, I want this baby out. It's time for this baby to come. And she came through baby Mary and made her entrance into this world. And she is absolutely beautiful. If you have not gone and checked out pictures, you can check her pictures out on Jackie's personal.
00:21:27
Speaker
social media accounts. And there are some pictures, I believe, on our on a water break ah social media, as well as the Spintronic social media. But Jackie said her goal was for labor to go faster and be better than the labor with Victor, which is where the epidural didn't work. And she reacted to everything that gave her because of allergies. And it took two hours of active pushing with Victor.
00:21:51
Speaker
so Baby Marion had different plans. Baby Marion had cooked long enough and she only had three minutes of active labor and she pushed twice.
00:22:04
Speaker
I mean, it's so exciting. It's so exciting for all of us. I mean, we were here, we were here for the pregnancy announcement and here we are at the birth announcement and we've, you know, kind of been with her on chat every step of the way and it's just really, really great. So congratulations. Yeah, we're so happy for her.
00:22:23
Speaker
Austin, what do you got, sir? Well, first of all, I'm happy for Jackie. That baby looks healthy. I'm loving it. Two hours is much longer than three minutes, and I think we beat a goal, and I don't think we can get much better than that. What? Can I just say before you say that, I want to smell that baby's head. I know. I want to smell that baby's head. They smell so good. I can't wait to smell that baby's head, unless it's Jake.
00:22:51
Speaker
But Midwest Combine um is doing an experience camp again. It was an absolute hit last year. um So if you are interested in marching drum corps, I highly, highly, highly recommend getting out to this camp, but if you especially if you live in the Midwest. So all the drum corps that are going to be there, it's one big old camp. It's going to be at Oak Creek High School in Wisconsin. um It's a registration fee of 50 bucks on October 27.
00:23:20
Speaker
um where Phantom Regiment, Madison Scouts, Blue Stars, Cavaliers, Colts, and River City Rhythm are all going to be in attendance looking for you to join their drum corps. So it's pretty much just like a big old open house. So you get a full day of instruction, ah like two or three staff members from every single drum corps will be there. You'll get a t-shirt, a sticker, and lunch that's all included in the 50 bucks.
00:23:49
Speaker
ah How cool is that? I know, right? It's such a good way to kind of like, so it it kind of feels like, it kind of feels like an NFL Draft Combine in a way.
00:24:01
Speaker
They're coming here to look at you and they're like, hey, i want I want that. I want this one. I want that one. I want this one. And then next thing you know if you know, if you're good enough, you might have some drum course fighting over you. I think that's funny. It's cool to have groups do things together. yeah but that Doing things together is such a cool way to make it happen. It doesn't seem like we do as much of that anymore.
00:24:22
Speaker
Yeah, the the idea of camaraderie, especially with how how difficult it is to be a drum corps these days, I think is is is great. And the fact that they're willing to work together. I mean, how hard is it? We all know how hard it is to create a team that works together, to work with the same kids. Could you imagine creating teams that work together? I think that's pretty incredible. right Yeah.
00:24:43
Speaker
Yeah, I mean the whole goal of it is just like get it's like kind of like get your feet wet. It's like a half. It's kind of like a half day thing. So you do so this can I got the DCI has got the schedule posted. So 8am registration 9 9am to 12 you're going to do just sectionals.
00:25:00
Speaker
You'll have lunch for 45 minutes, so 12.45 to 3.15. You'll do more sectional instruction. And then at 3.15, there's a Q and&A session with all the core directors that are going to be there. And then at 4 o'clock, there's going to be an info fair with individual core.
00:25:17
Speaker
So I think it's a great opportunity. You get to show up, you get to do a little bit of drum pour. You get to find out who's about what. You get to go figure out where you want to go. And then all the reviews from last year were saying it was it was so such no pressure. It was so fun. like I didn't have to worry about like messing anything up. I didn't have to worry about an audition. I didn't have to do any of that. It's like a love drug. It's like a drug called a charcuterie board. You know, you get a taste of this, a taste of that. Exactly. You know we love a charcuterie board. Charcuterie board.
00:25:47
Speaker
like what you did oh joey oh but I had to lighten it up before my news story.
00:25:58
Speaker
OK, yeah, where point yeah, um I'll jump right in. WGI mourns the loss of Virginia Balsarek. I'm going to read exactly what WGI put on their website, because I think it's just beautifully put. And I don't think there's any any words um past ah you know what they've put in. So I'll read it here. ah Virginia Balsarek could cherish and dedicated WGI World Championships volunteer passed away peacefully on Friday, October 18th.
00:26:28
Speaker
Her commitment to WGI spanned over 40 years, leaving an enduring impression on generations of performers, staff, and fellow volunteers. um A service to honor Virginia's life will be held on Friday, November 1st, which I think is ah when this podcast is going to come out at 3.30, followed by the rosary at 5.30 PM at the k Crass Funeral Home in Milwaukee.
00:26:51
Speaker
Virginia Balsarek was a beacon of selfless service demonstrating how one person can make a profound difference. Her spirit of service will forever be remembered and her absence will be deal deeply felt but within the WGI community. um I have, and I think we all do, have pretty um personal and and heartwarming stories um with many WGI volunteers. I mean, sorry.
00:27:22
Speaker
Um, you know, it's okay. We know. Yeah, I mean, they're here for you. Yeah, they they they do so much. And you know ah my significant other jumped on as ah as a volunteer this past ah winter. And she just absolutely loved the experience and loved helping out. And that's that's where those people but belong. And you know they make the experience for the students and the staff so positive. And um you know when we lose somebody like this, I think it's um
00:27:56
Speaker
I think it it is deeply felt and um you know um it's just it just sad. and I really appreciate everything that WGI does and the volunteers are just an extension of that. and i think um I think that as we rally around um losses like this, I think it's important to to to find time and you know make sure that the last times you say things to people are are positive and and you give everybody a hug when you can. Amen. Because you never know.
00:28:24
Speaker
When the, you know, the last time is going to be a so sorry, I teared up there, but yeah, I'm dead. I have a deep part and a big part in my heart for all WGI volunteers.

Community Support and Fundraising Efforts

00:28:35
Speaker
And I'm really like that. Just the same thing with like band parents and everything. It's just, um you know, it's, it's sad to see them go. And, you know, I love the work that they all do. So.
00:28:44
Speaker
Yeah, I had the wonderful privilege of knowing Virg from my time marching the Cavaliers because she was one of our Cavalier mothers. And you want to talk about being just the nicest and kindest person, but also being that strong mother figure that like 140 young men need when they're all surrounded by each other and Virg was able to do that. she was just loving and she was sweet but she also knew exactly how to get us together and because we loved and respect her so much you know we we did what mama bird said anytime she has did she have a like a family member in the core or previously or
00:29:24
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Just one of those wonderful people. I am not sure if she did before or not. I know definitely not when I was marching there. So just one of those wonderful people who wants to do good things. Who always wants to help and do good things. So she was always there. I'm telling you this activity would not function without people like that. Right.
00:29:45
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It's what it is. Like without those volunteers, without those grandparents, without those people who are just willing to just volunteer and give their time, we wouldn't be doing what we're doing at all. They definitely, they keep this activity running and silently too. All right, let's let change the tone just a little bit. Pat, what do you have for us? ah Well,
00:30:12
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ah This past weekend on Sunday out in Mooresville, North Carolina, which is just a little north of Charlotte, a band director from Lake Norman High School um put together a a big fundraiser, basically a benefit to raise money for ah for North Carolina, for Western North Carolina and all the disaster going on with the hurricane, as we previously mentioned, and had people from elementary school kids all the way up to retired musicians show up. Everybody could just bring your instrument and show up and play.
00:30:41
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And they raised had people donated money, donated items. ah They were working through an organization, but the Samaritan's Purse, and they were collecting things and supplies and getting things to them so they can bring it and deliver it to Western North Carolina. And they said it was just an ah an amazing experience and a whole small U-Haul truckload full of items they got donated. um But they said the amazing part was just the fact that it was 10-year-olds up to 80-year-olds altogether.
00:31:09
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just mixed in playing music, having a concert, and doing what musicians do. which is you know that's I've always considered that to be one of our um one of our gifts as musicians that we can perform and create music for people, whether it's in ah in a and a great, happy situation or an unfortunate situation where you're trying to just help out. and they had a It was an amazing event and they're still going to continue to collect things as they can. um Just ah ah a great a great opportunity for somebody on this side of the state and a whole bunch of people to get together to try to help out fellow North Carolinians and all of the things that go along with that. I think that's about it. Yeah, I love I love stuff like that just because that's it kind of hits home to me because I don't know if you guys know this. I am also from North Carolina. I'm from I'm from the Charlotte area. So like seeing all this stuff out of Western North Carolina, like talking about the TOC show. I went there as a high schooler.
00:32:02
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every like pretty much every single year. So watching all this go down it's just it's heartbreaking but at the same time like looking at all these things that all these people from my hometown and people from Florida and people from Georgia, South Carolina and honestly the rest of the country are doing to help get things into Asheville and surrounding areas and a lot of those small rural towns it's just it's heartwarming to see because it it just hits it just hits a little bit close to home and I'm sure Joey can ah relate to that as well.
00:32:32
Speaker
Yeah, absolutely. it's um i've i've I've only lived in North Carolina for three years, but um you know how welcome I felt and people have been like, how does it feel change you know moving and doing all this stuff? And and this honestly feels like home. like It doesn't feel like I'm missing anything. And so for um i've I've kind of become a a big like, whatever I can do to help the state, let's make it happen. And I'm i'm i'm planting my roots. And so when we see beautiful stuff like this, I feel like I'm in the right place. It's the right time.

Nominations and Disaster Planning

00:33:03
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um It's a, it's a unique, we've, we've only been here five months and the, just the way people are here is, is blowing us away. Like we fell on, we fell in love with the city really quick and the people and it's, and and unfortunately you see, you see more when things get bad and
00:33:19
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the amount of of good that we have seen people do for each other and and the restaurants in town, because the city is made up of restaurants that are all local places and they're all giving away free food and things for people that anybody comes by, you need food, come by, we'll give you. I mean, it's they are it's been a, um it's a shame that it takes this sometimes to see it, but the the way the people are here, is it's something pretty special. And to see that happen then around the rest of the state and the country has been a, ah it's heartwarming to get you. You just hope it never has to happen, but when it does,
00:33:47
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people step up and they do anything they can for others. All right, Trish, I'm going to throw this over to you because you have a very important announcement for us. I do. So WGI is accepting nominees for the WGI Hall of Fame for ah the winter color guard activity. This time a percussion is accepted on an even number year.
00:34:13
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Um, so as much as many people as are in the hall of fame I could think of a ton of people who have not been nominated yet So if you know one of those people and you you know You really have always thought about nominating them now's the time you have it till november 15th at 11 59 pm And you can get all the information on how to nominate someone at wji.org slash 25 HLF nomination. It's all there. And I mean, it's, you know, it's just such an incredible opportunity to recognize, as we were just talking about, so many the people who' have done so many good things to help us get to where we are. I mean, you know, it's, it's just really important that they be recognized. So yeah had no if you ever but thinking about, oh, that person should be in the Hall of Fame, get it going now.
00:35:14
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Okay, it's time to work on that new ending for this weekend and we'll be right back as we dive deeper into disaster planning with Kevin and Janine.
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00:36:45
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So I don't want to waste any time at all because there is lots to discuss as it relates to disaster planning. As climate change ravages us more and more in the marching arts, we have to adapt, as we always do, to make everything amazing for our students.
00:37:02
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Joey, why don't you introduce our first clinician? Absolutely. I'm i'm ah i'm super excited about this fellow North Carolinian. um Kevin Young is the band director at Enka High School. He's been there for eight years. He was also at the Asheville Middle School for four years. ah Kevin, how are you doing?
00:37:22
Speaker
I'm great. How are you guys? Loving it. Loving life. We do something really cool on the podcast. We do a 32 count life story. um So in 32 counts, you get eight off the Met and you're going to tell us everything from the day you were born to what you had for dinner tonight. Are you ready? Let's do it. All right. Let's go.
00:37:42
Speaker
Yeah, so I was born in 1990. I'm a fellow at Western North Carolina. You know, that's where I grew up. I was raised. ah Let's see. I've been at the band director at Inca High School for the last eight years. I'm very excited about this year until, of course, what we're going to talk about tonight. um So yeah, in dinner tonight, we had tortellini that my wife cooked right after work. So we're very excited about that too. Awesome.
00:38:10
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Uh, Kevin, how was the tortellini? It was excellent. Yeah. Love it. Now I'm hungry again.
00:38:18
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Especially after March being rehearsal.
00:38:22
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boom Okay, Kevin, we are going to get back to all of your adventures in a minute, but I have got to give the mic over to one of my besties out there, all the way from up the street in Tarpon Springs, Florida, the one and only Miss Janine Ford. Janine. Hi, bestie. Hi, bestie. How are you? I'm fantastic. How are you?
00:38:50
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Good, just getting off of rehearsal. So my voice is a little hoarse. I'm sure you guys understand that. Oh yeah, we totally do because I just came to rehearsal too. So I got you. Janine, you just heard Kevin do his 32 count life story. Now it is your turn. You are going to get eight counts off the mat and then you can tell us from birth to what you had for dinner tonight if you want to. We are here to listen. You ready? I'm ready. All right, here we go.

Challenges and Successes in Disaster Recovery

00:39:22
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Okay, I was born in Boston. I've been doing drum corps since I was four years old. I marched in Cadet to Bergen County, caught ah taught at Crossman and Carolina Crown. My husband is the band director of Tarpon. I've been here for for a very long time. ah We have two color guards at Sunset Hills Elementary School, one color guard at Tarpon Middle, two at Tarpon High. um I have two wonderful children. One is in luxury real estate, the other is ah DCI, WGI, and a nursing student. And that's it. Having a dinner or so.
00:40:01
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overwhelming and it is It's a little bit intimidating when you try to pack so much stuff into short amount of time, right? Okay, guys, so each of you has had to deal with some pretty extreme circumstances this year. So ah Let's talk to each of you about what you've had to deal with and what are you doing to make things work. Kevin, we'll start with you.
00:40:24
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Yeah, so we're still not even in school. We we didn't we went out of school, I think September 27th was our last day, um and then the storm came to 28th and just completely wiped out neighborhoods. and I mean, it's really, really insane for this area. you know We're 2,000 feet above above sea level, so it's like you would never have thought 20 feet of water would just rush through a city like Asheville.
00:40:49
Speaker
So we actually start back school this upcoming Friday. Thank the Lord. We're happy about that. But it's on a weird weird schedule. But at least we're there. We can flush toilets. So they're going to let us go back just because of that. Yep.
00:41:03
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I never thought I'd take for granted flushing a toilet until now. So, um, but yeah, so how we've made things work, you know, for about two and a half weeks, we didn't do anything. We couldn't, we, we learned our last set of drill, uh, the Friday before the, I guess a week exactly before the hurricane came through.
00:41:20
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and We had one rehearsal and then that was it. and Then two and a half weeks, we were like, what are we going to do? you know Water was out of the entire city. Eighty percent of Asheville did not have water for over two weeks and there are still some parts that don't have water. um so We've just really tried to bring morale by you know messaging the kids, keeping their spirits up, you know just having a two-hour, you know come get your instrument, take it home and practice. in We all know they hung out and talked to each other because they want to care about each other. so so you know we We try to do things like that and then finally got the green light last Monday to practice for a maximal two hours a day. so we would We did that all week last week. Awesome. Yeah, I think it's probably good for your kids to be able to get back to that normal sense of something and yeah taking that time to be with each other and and just bond and fellowship with each other. i mean That's important to those kids.
00:42:11
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Yeah, we went to our first contest Saturday, so we were very excited just to you know show up and do something and you know survive that. So they were they were just excited to be able to have that opportunity again. Yeah. what did ah What did that first rehearsal look like?
00:42:25
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Oh, gosh. ah Well, you know, so our director, Noah Bellamy, he writes a lot of numbers. So we were like 107 sets. I was like, you know, what are we going to remember that, you know, there's 107 sets and we just did like 40 in like a week. So.
00:42:42
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uh it was interesting it took them about two reps but after about two reps the kids were like oh yeah i go here i go here i was like wait a minute y'all actually remember that like that's surprising uh because normally i would say they don't remember half of what they learned most of the time but they really did a nice job and like They maintain so much. and I was very proud of what they were able to do. And a lot of kids, especially my drum line, really practice over that course of two weeks because they didn't have power. They've had nothing else to do. So so maybe I should just take the power away more often. Take take the power and the phones away and we'll all see how much better our kids get, yeah? Yeah.
00:43:19
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Most of your kids end up being okay after all that stuff happened? Yeah, so where we are, we're 10 minutes west of downtown Asheville, so we're actually in Candler. We got hit hard, but not like downtown. like I know you've probably seen the pictures of Biltmore Village and things like that. i mean My wife works at the hospital and she was there for like four days. and ah We went and saw her because you know we didn't have cell phone service either for almost a week.
00:43:45
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And you couldn't get out. I mean, the whole place was just underwater. It was crazy. I've never seen water like that. So, but yeah, for for our kids, it was pretty okay. But there's a lot of places that cannot even, you know, go back. Little towns, Chimney Rock just wiped out. no You can't even get to it. Wow. You know, I was talking in the first segment about, you know, in Florida, we know that hurricanes are coming and we kind of prepared for them. You guys in North Carolina,
00:44:15
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you did not expect this type of situation from a hurricane. You know, mostly you thought maybe you would get some rain from a low pressure system, but it was still, you know, fierce winds and extreme amounts of rain. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I think the craziest thing for us is that it rained two days before nonstop. So the ground was already soft and you know, just, it just crazy. And then, then the hurricane came in that next morning and just like, it went, I mean, I couldn't believe the amount of rain and the trees and I mean, the, the wind just blew over like half my, my fence that we built when we bought this house and just like never expected that. Um, and we were supposed to host our 50th band festival the day after Helene and I was on Thursday night going, Hey, we might still have a hostess. And I was like, yeah, that ain't happening now. So we, you know, of course cancer, but yeah, it was, we, you'd never expect that around here ever. Yeah. Well, I know that.
00:45:10
Speaker
Janine and I got to see each other ah the week after Helene happened. And Helene didn't even directly hit us on the west coast of Florida. It came near us and flooded out everywhere and flooded Tarpon Springs heavily. um And I was with Janine as we found out that Milton was heading directly at us. So we were having a conversation about what had happened in the first hurricane.
00:45:36
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while simultaneously starting to think about how we were gonna prepare the next day for Milton. So Janine, tell us you know your story of what was going on in Tarpon that week, because you had some sad stories, but wonderful as well. You know, ah first and foremost, I just wanted to say thank you for for hosting this. And Kevin, you know my heart goes out to you and your band family and your area. Like Ricardo was saying, um I think what's different is, um and not that having time to prepare, prepared us for what was coming, um you know, I'm just kind of reflecting as you were talking. And I just remember like packing up our family and, you know, with my kids going like, you have one backpack, you know, whatever you can fit in that one backpack, make sure it's a great memory, um you know, and and just kind of trying to explain the significance of
00:46:32
Speaker
what you have in that backpack could be the only thing that you have. you know And just driving away from the neighborhood, just thinking that was the last time we were going to see the house, the cars, and everything. um So yes, the first hurricane hit Tarpen pretty hard. ah We lost, I'm sure a lot of you know, Molly Favre and Tyler Edrington. um you know They lost the whole downstairs of their house. They lost their car. We had 10 to 15.
00:47:01
Speaker
um students lose just about everything um you know and just kind of reflecting back on that moment you know I think for us it was we lost electricity just like Kevin you know and just not being able to find out whether or not all of the kids were safe was something that was a little hard for us um and then when we were able to I think it was something like ah 900,000 people in our community were without power. So, um you know, it took us a long time just to even navigate. Is everybody okay? um Is everybody safe? Where did they relocate to? How can we kind of get in touch with them to see whether or not they're even in the area? We had a lot of kids that went to the Carolinas um or Atlanta just moved out of the area just to escape, you know, the first hurricane.
00:47:58
Speaker
um So, just like Ricardo said, you know, we're dealing with the first hurricane. We're realizing that everybody's safe. um We lost a lot. You know, the debris that's on everybody's front lawn um is just insurmountable. um And that is still there. You know, so we're finishing one hurricane. The next one's coming in. We have all this debris everywhere. And, um you know, somewhere in between all of that, we had one rehearsal.
00:48:26
Speaker
And just like Kevin was saying, the door opens to the band room, to the guard's face, and kids are just walking in. And and they're just you know they're kind of crying. They're so happy. They're hugging each other. um And it was in that moment that you realize the materialistic things really didn't matter. It was the love and the connections. And just seeing them have that moment was, for me, life changing.
00:48:51
Speaker
um you know so Fast forward getting out on the the field, just like Kevin was saying, you know it it took us maybe one or two reps and you know the the energy, the effort, the um camaraderie, the connections, everything just kind of locked in and you know they they they were they were in it. So um you know talking to a few parents, you know the parents were super excited that we were able to create that energy for the kids because they felt like Not that it relates to COVID really, but like in a way it does um because for us it was, um we we felt like we had lost everything. I'm sure Kevin, it's the same thing, you know? So we're coming back together. The parents are like, we want our students, our we want our kids to to be kids. We don't want them to deal with devastation and loss. And, you know, we want them to be happy and, um you know, to have this opportunity.
00:49:48
Speaker
So going into our first competition was great. you know we were able that's where you know I met up with Ricardo, and you know then we realized this other storm is going to be worse. you know I live in Oldsmar, so it was one of those places where all three bodies of water um were going to hit us. And um you know we just that's when reality really, I think, hit us all. um So I feel like I'm being so like down.
00:50:15
Speaker
um But there's there's like a positive to this, you know, so the second hurricane hits We're all okay.

Building Resilience through Music

00:50:25
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We have no electricity. We have no water like Kevin was saying, you know um We're not allowed to use the drinking water. We're not allowed to flush toilets and all of these things and slowly ah Pinellas County starts to come back from it. We see pockets of electricity coming back on. um We're able to get in touch with our students and I think that was Tuesday, um you know, and we're we're supposed to be hosting our competition OMF. And so um I remember having a conversation with my husband and we're, you know, the uncertainty of one, can we pull this off?
00:51:05
Speaker
You know, are there enough bands in in Florida that are able to come to the competition? Should we even try to do that? Is the community ready for that? You know, so like we're just dealing with all of these emotions and the superintendent, his son is in the band and he ah sends out a message and he said, you know, Pinellas is coming back to school on Wednesday. And that was the first thought where were we like,
00:51:33
Speaker
Hey, can we do this? Do we have enough time? it does that Does the community want that? um And you know I think it's it it really put life in perspective for us going like the arts. They really do make a difference in kids' lives. 100%. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And again, like.
00:52:00
Speaker
I'm trying not to get emotional, um but it is still, I'm i'm sure Kevin, um it's it's still raw. Ricardo, you know what I mean. yeah but like When when you you you just have so much love for these kids and they've worked so hard,
00:52:21
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you know And I think that we all just felt like we needed to present an opportunity for them, whatever that looked like, whether it was a full show or just part one and part two, you know to just to just try to um you know bring things back to normal. And so um you know we were we were fortunate enough to be able to do that. We had our contest on Saturday. ah We had 23 bands. The stands were full. um you know And each group had a standing ovation.
00:52:52
Speaker
um No, and it was so amazing just to see them, um yeah you know, again, it's like that first WGI that we came back from COVID, you know, and it was like, it didn't matter what you did. It didn't matter how well you did it. What mattered was you were there, you were present, and, and you know, everybody could could appreciate, um you know, what whatever it was that you were providing.
00:53:18
Speaker
Yeah, I always feel like whenever we go through something like this, you know, I remember back when I went through Katrina when I still lived in Mississippi and being out of school for days. And the first thing that we were able to do was to go back and have a band rehearsal.
00:53:33
Speaker
just the amount of understanding that every single person in the organization went through something serious and traumatic. And this was the thing that we get to do to bring us back to our normal selves, to get us back in a spirit of creating and performing and just that level of passion. And like you said, taking your mind off of the devastation because, you know, driving down the street here in my neighborhood, there's still all of the debris from my yard is in my front yard right now.
00:54:03
Speaker
You know, there's signs still blown over. There's still traffic signals in town that, you know, are blown upside down or they don't have power. And the Hurricane Milton actually touched land in Bradenton, which is where the school that I teach is. And I got to see this amazing picture yesterday of the eye and what the eye looked like as it was coming across through the town. And it's just an eerie feeling. and it's And I'm so, but the first thing that I thought was, I'm so glad that all of my kids are okay. then Stuff can be replaced, you know, we can relearn show, we can not do the entire show, I just want my kids to be okay. And it seems like they've come out of it and they're they're eager, they're ready, they they have more of a fire within them because they lost time and and they wanna be with each other and hang out, but they also wanna make sure that they're like,
00:55:01
Speaker
respecting their friends who did lose things. We had kids that lost homes, that lost cars. um And you know there's there's sadness in all of it, but there's also this rebirth that happens. So it's an interesting process.
00:55:17
Speaker
Yeah, and and and I agree with everything that you just said, Ricardo. I think, too, in all of that, you know, it's like we have this energy here and we're able to, I'll say, control that. um But they are still having difficult times because they're driving back home. um You know, 10 to 15 of our our families lost their cars, lost everything. So, you know, where we're in control here, they're still going back home.
00:55:44
Speaker
to you know the devastation. And I think that that's why it's so important that we were able to provide um you know some sort of normalcy to them. you know we And adaptability is a huge thing. you know We're trying to teach them to adapt to unpredictable situations. And whether it's weather or whatever the disruption is, you know ah find alternative ways to be successful. Yeah.
00:56:12
Speaker
Kevin, I'm gonna throw this over to the you now. So what has been the best thing that you think has come out of this tragedy? I think that really truly the best thing, it's just the seeing the kids resiliency and seeing like them not take for granted what the fourth of the storm did. you know They would take for granted what even a water break or we would do this, we would do that. And just like seeing them come to this activity and really give it a much better effort and just really dive into it and believe in themselves and go,
00:56:46
Speaker
you know tomorrow this could change the next day this could change and the next day this could change and they just continue to work through that um you know and just being good humans you know i think that these types of situations change people um i know like for us like the first couple days it was like hearing the stories afterwards of people getting shot over gas or not being able to eat in grocery stores. like i mike yeah but I would have never thought. like We didn't have a gas shortage. We didn't have a grocery shortage. It was just people freaking out. and Then the next thing you know, five seconds later, everyone is helping everybody. Every neighbor is helping everybody. They're walking through the neighborhood.
00:57:31
Speaker
Um, seeing my kids at Ingalls in line or in line to get gas somewhere. Cause I live like 45 seconds from the high school. And, uh, so I see the kids all the time in the community. So just really seeing them and seeing what this can do for people and bringing the best out of humanity. Cause even in the bad, the darkest times to that I think there was so much more good that comes out of it and just, you know, people that just.
00:57:54
Speaker
They care about people and just seeing that in our kids and our program and our administration. I mean, I had my administrators bringing, you know, big trash cans with water that I had to, you know, scoop a bucket out. The kid used the bathroom, throw it in the toilet and automatically flush this, you know, just like seeing in that commodity and coaches and just everything that not only the arts, but athletics. I mean, we started athletics and band at the same time. um That was one of the first things our superintendent allowed to happen. He was just like, we've got to get these kids something.
00:58:22
Speaker
And so I really think that's the most important thing that's come out of it. Yeah, absolutely. Janine, you always have these little pearls of wisdom, and I love it when I get them in text messages or in conversations with you. So what advice would you give to people after this situation? Just don't take life for granted, and don't take people for granted, connections for granted. um you know And when we're talking to the to the students,
00:58:52
Speaker
trying to get them to understand that you know tomorrow is not promised to us. And um that's hard at 13, 14. They feel like they're indestructible. And when they they walked in and just to kind of just have them breathe for a second and you know see that their friend made it through this and to be able to you know to see them, to hug them, that was a reality check for all of them.
00:59:22
Speaker
um So I would say don't take things for granted and really teach team spirit. I think that that's a big thing too is, um you know, the chat, you know, faced all of these challenges and the uncertainty of the season.
00:59:38
Speaker
I think um you know we're learning perseverance, we're learning determination, we're learning all those great buzzwords, but I also think that um you know the team spirit and building each other up is is a good ah good tool to have as well. Okay, how about we switch all of this up and hear from each of you in a segment that we like to call, what are we doing? What are we doing?
01:00:08
Speaker
like What are we doing? Okay, Kevin, you are first up. Tell us, what are we doing? You know, I'll repeat something I said earlier. is What are we doing riding 107 sets of drill for for kids?
01:00:29
Speaker
I'll say it. yeah ah I know it's my fault. That's what it that's what it is. My brain goes crazy. and I go, I want all these ideas together. and you know and The reality is these are you know high school kids and not many of them are drum corps and they don't do that kind of stuff for in all the time. Kevin's going to tell you that we didn't have 107 sets in our drum corps show this summer.
01:00:49
Speaker
ah Well, I will say this, I mean, when I say 107 cents, that includes the holds, that includes the holds too. So it's, you know, it might be move 16, hold 30 something or whatever it is. So when I say 107, I'm really mean, you know. Again, were like we didn't have 107 cents in our drum course this summer. So what are you doing?
01:01:07
Speaker
yeah you so that your kids it So that your kids will like, where they'll remember this forever, they'll be like, remember, in 2024, when we had the hurricane, and we still learned 107 sets of drill, like that's that's why. the The kids are gonna say, well, what are you not doing, they're in 107 sets. 42 sets for a show, what are you talking about? Back in my day,
01:01:36
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Yeah, I definitely didn't do that many, for sure. Oh, man. Yeah. So yeah, I mean, that's that's right that's it. you know What are we doing with that? And you know just thinking back to the hurricane. like What are we doing now? You know, what are we doing right now? And we what we're doing is we we are hanging on. We are learning. We're making the best of it. And the kids are, you know, ah the the progress they made from last Monday to really today was just unbelievable. It's nine days from even Saturday and we've had one rehearsal. So just, it's just, yeah. So we're, we're just very excited. Yeah. Keep trucking. Keep on the truck. You guys do okay.
01:02:17
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Yeah, we did all right. You know, in the day show, we are electronic ether concord ripped out on the way back. But you know, so no sound. And when you're doing when you're doing the airplane show, you got to have you got to have some sound. So just you see electronics. Hey, yeah, I know. I'll play Markworth on that one.
01:02:37
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sydney It's your turn. What are we doing? I'm gonna like tag on to what Kevin said. So what are we doing? um Trying to put on 11 minutes and 56 seconds worth of a show.
01:02:53
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um Have it be just as produced as as if we didn't have two hurricanes and rivers overflowing um And attend the BOA Orlando regional this Saturday um You know, I think we're crazy um but I also think that it is a great thing because I it gives the kids a um a goal and right now it's just it it forces them to just be future orientated and not ah not so much look at the past and just kind of have a goal for the future. So what do we do? I don't know if we have 114 sets, so I'm going to count, Kevin. and I hope you do so. dont feel so bad You guys are are superheroes for that. So that being said, you know what? I think that we need to have our gush and goes.
01:03:49
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Great job, everyone. Set your equipment down. Gush and go.
01:03:55
Speaker
Okay, Kevin, you get to go first. What are you gushing and going about this week? Oh, man. We were gushing and going over some Top Gun. That's the end of our closer. And we are just like, you know, we got electric guitar standing on a real airplane. We've got a real airplane on the field. And we were just gushing all over that and just, yeah, look at, yeah, yeah, Jose. I'm being serious. We have a real airplane. No, it's not a lie.
01:04:18
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A real airplane on the field. What kind of airplane? it was like It was actually a crop duster plane. a School in Georgia, South Paulding, I think used it for two years. and yeah so we We bought it and we know really want to do this airplane show. or Our land of the sky show was but you know supposed to be at the end of september but now it's like november 2nd and so we were trying to do like a show that you know contributed to jets and that's because that's our name the ika jets and all that so we tried to tie all that in and i just happened to see this airplane i was like i'm crazy i'm gonna go buy this airplane and we turn it into you know like a top gun thing and we get the little guitar player on the the plane it lights up smokes all that stuff so yeah we're gushing over that right now
01:05:01
Speaker
sweet What is that? How do you travel with that? What how do you break? it it's live table so oh Sorry, my bad. Yeah, you just landed my that Well for the right we did we didn't put a nose on it So it looks more like a fighter jet because um you know You don't want a crop duster plane on the field for top guy So we did we we did we did edit it a little bit but uh, yeah So it actually the way that those guys engineered it they ripped everything out of the cockpit and except for the seat And they put it all on wheels. So the the wings come apart
01:05:32
Speaker
the tube, the cockpit and the something lodge. I can't remember. I'm not a fuselage. Yeah. Thank you. Fuselage comes apart and it just rolls. if We roll it out on the field wow and the parents you put it together. You can take, I can take it apart by myself. I can push three quarters of it. I cannot, the cockpit, I cannot push by myself. That thing's like 300 pounds. Let's take some money. how do you well ah how much How are you selling it at the end of the season? how can i and i I want to do something with it right now. We we are going to sell that and the flight seats that we bought and the whole nine yards, so

Concluding Thoughts on Resilience and Humor

01:06:04
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for sure. Halloween, here we go. Does your Jets team have an Aaron Rodgers on it too? No. No. I think our Jets.
01:06:16
Speaker
Our football team has the same record as the New York Jets. Oh, okay. I live in New Jersey and although I'm a Giants fan, I'm sure there are plenty of people, even in my neighborhood, that would be willing to give you Aaron Rodgers for your team.
01:06:34
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that
01:06:38
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I don't think that'd help us. Okay. This has become the sports ball episode more than the hurricane relief. It is all about sports. This is the on a water break from a sports ball game podcast. We're actually partnered with MLB and NFL and the NBA. So thank you. Thank you to our sponsors.
01:07:00
Speaker
Janine, what would you like to gush and go about this week? Well, I know nothing about sports guys, so I'm sorry. I i know what's his name, Tom Brady, only because I grew up in Boston. So that's the only real name that I know. um But my gush and go is, um ah the the kids came up with some catch phrases. So ah they call themselves, we are tarpon, sorry, we are Tarpon Springs, we're built for tough and we are awakening from the storm. The show is called The Awakening. So they're running back to their sets and you know they're just kind of screaming all these things and ah they call themselves the storm. um Something funny too is ah in some of the choreography, if they release and the toss is a little too fast, they're like, whoa, whoa, it's not hurricane Milton. It's only Tarpon.
01:07:59
Speaker
I'm not sure if that's the right thing that I'm letting them do because, you know, it it's it's it's softening the the the mood and all that. Yeah. so I love that. We all cope in different ways, you know? Kids will be kids regardless of where they are. is doesn It doesn't matter if they're from a little tiny town in Illinois, they're from Hebron or Tarpon Springs. Band kids are still band kids. a band kid. Mm-hmm.
01:08:30
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That's awesome. Oh man. Okay,
01:08:38
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okay so this was amazing. Thank both of you for being here, being so open and honest and raw with us about your experiences. and this devastating time and how your band programs are slowly but surely coming back to normalcy and thriving. Kevin, where can people find you or your band on social media? Yeah, they can just look up Inca Bands on Facebook or Instagram or go to our website at IncaBand.com. ah not Pretty easy. Awesome. And Janine, what about you?
01:09:10
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Oh, well actually, can i can I do a plug really quickly? Please do. So, you know, the Tarpon Springs community, and again, Kevin, probably the same thing for you. um You know, they've always sponsored the band programs and, you know, they've helped us with um you know just uh donating to the kids and all of that and right now um if anybody wants to come down to the tarpon community we're trying to rebuild the sponge docks so they could really use patrons uh come to the restaurants uh go down main street there's some great shops and everything like that so the community that has helped ah you know the color garden and band program
01:09:53
Speaker
um you know and they've always shown their support. Just wanted to see if there's anybody out there that you know could come down and show their support and you know get some ah Greek food, purchase some sponges. you know There's all-natural sponges down at the sponge dock, so you know come and help our community rebuild.
01:10:14
Speaker
Definitely the sponges that I use at my house are all from the sponge dock. So you know what? It's time for me to make a trip up there and come grab some more. Where can our friends find you on social media, Janine? Okay, um so you can find us on social media. We we have numerous accounts. Tarpen Springs Percussion has their own social media. Tarpen Springs Conservatory for the Arts. That's more the marching band. Tarpen Springs Color Guard. So we're on numerous entities in the social media realm.
01:10:46
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um And Instagram, i I think we probably have um numerous, you know, Instagram accounts as well. So just start Prince Springs and you'll find us. All right. Okay, everyone, back out for a few more chunks and then a full run. What are we doing? And where gush and goes are next.
01:11:19
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Hey everyone, it's Jeremy, your producer from On A Water Break, and here are your announcements coming from the box. While you're enjoying this amazing episode, don't forget our other episodes, including the one about Peggy Twiggs, the one where we go behind the scenes of the Olympics and the marching arts.
01:11:35
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01:12:01
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01:12:22
Speaker
what a great conversation with Janine Ford and Kevin. You know, I just love me some Janine, guys. She is just the Living breathing example of how to do everything right and just is always so cool ah She warms my heart, but guess what friends it is time for what are we doing? What are we doing?
01:12:55
Speaker
What are we doing? Okay friends, you know the deal This is your time to dish or rant on something that just drives you crazy and ask, what are we doing? Trish, what are we doing?
01:13:13
Speaker
Well, I'm almost ready to change my what are we doing to what are my friends doing spamming me in the group chat about my beloved New York Yankees. So I'm almost ready to change it to that. I got a Dodger fan up in here. I got an Astro fan up in here.
01:13:39
Speaker
I don't even know what's going on, so I'm almost ready to change it to that. However, what was I doing two weeks ago why not when I had a band show, well, I didn't have a band show, I had a Sunday show that weekend, and I watched a marching band show on flow marching in Texas. So like what was I doing on a day off?
01:14:04
Speaker
um But there was some really cool stuff, but there I do have some questions. I don't know if any of y'all are from Texas or have been around the Texas scene at all. Oof, what was that wind doing? Oh my God, like what was that wind doing? Those poor guard kids, I mean, from from jump. I mean, it was bad. The wind was so bad. I felt so bad for those kids. But another thing that I noticed,
01:14:33
Speaker
judge blockers, you know, those props across the front. Are those a thing again? Cause we ain't seen those in Jersey. Yeah. Oh yeah. They make your appearances. They're in and out every now and then. Cause I was talking to my band director about it. We ain't seen those in Jersey in like a minute. There were some at UA finals last year.
01:14:54
Speaker
I don't know why. It's actually a cool concept. We've used them before in the past, but I was like, every single band had judge blockers. I was like, are we doing that again? Or are we not doing that? Bring it back. Up here in the Northeast, are we not cool anymore? Should we be doing that? I don't know. But that was my takeaway from that show, some incredible performances, but a couple of moments.
01:15:21
Speaker
You know, they say, they say that there's no defense in marching band, but maybe, maybe there is. This is an interesting, it's an interesting take. Yeah, I'm here for it. I didn't even think of it as a judge blocker. I'd never heard that term, but, uh, now I'm the fan and that is what I'm going to call them permanently. Yeah. I mean, I, that's, that's what they do. That's not why we use them, but that is what they do. I just thought of them as equipment blockers. So I didn't have to see people's yard sales all over the field. I like about that.
01:15:50
Speaker
It cleans the field. Pat, speaking of you and cleaning the field, what what are we doing? This is an interesting one because I was a little challenged on this one. um But I will throw in what is in my brain right now, which is um what are we doing finishing the fall season while simultaneously designing for the winter season and for the summer season for those of us that are designing in the summertime?
01:16:18
Speaker
this week i personally attack Yeah, well, you know, I mean it's it it's just what it is and and it doesn't happen like this necessary because of the summer the summers that they want because that's the one that requires that almost a 12-month a year system so you have that lined up with what we're doing in the winter and what we're all doing still now and it's just ah I had I had a wins call a drumline call a drum corps call and then other fall things happening all in the first two and a half days of this week, or one and a half days of the week. And it's only Tuesday. So, you know. Oh, I got you beat. Just in today, this afternoon, I was at my regular job, which is at the school district office. I left there, had a conversation about the drum corps on my way to a marching band rehearsal, had marching band rehearsal while one of my design clients was texting
01:17:11
Speaker
from another school. And then on my way home, I was having a conversation with another design client and then I got on this podcast. So it never stops. Yeah, it's what it is. And I'm doing, I'm doing River City this year. So that has brought back my summer. My summer schedule has now not gotten busy, but it's, it definitely has added one thing to my list. That's incredible.
01:17:36
Speaker
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I actually just ah had a phone call on Thursday about fall 2025.
01:17:45
Speaker
Yeah, what? Yeah, I mean.
01:17:51
Speaker
What are they doing? What are we doing? We haven't even finished this season. Yeah, they're like, it's not working out with this drill writer. And I was like, well, you should definitely spend the rest of the season with this drill writer. And they're like, yeah, but we've already picked the show. We we know what our numbers are going to be pretty consistently every year. We're just lining this up. And we want to know where you jump on these design calls that start November 12. I was like, that's crazy. Oh my god. We're not even done November 12. Yeah.
01:18:20
Speaker
and now that'ss the way we ever is for us um my goodness I said i'll i'll I'll jump on calls after Thanksgiving. I need to give myself a break.
01:18:32
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yeah
01:18:34
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Oh my goodness. That's a good what are we doing? That is a good what are we doing. Eros, tell us what are we doing? I guess my what are we doing isn't too crazy since I'm not a band director nor a show designer.
01:18:49
Speaker
or a tech just yet, but yeah the the common issue I found with with a lot of like different ensembles and programs I'm in is like like like my higher-ups or my directors always posting like important information at the last minute.
01:19:05
Speaker
it's kind of like my thing too because like you for example the BOA trip here like we just got our schedule like today and it's not Thursday or sometimes whenever I mar i i did drum corps two years with a corps down in Georgia called Atlanta CV and sometimes like I wouldn't get that information until the day of the show so and then my other one kind of would be kind of silly but like Like it's whenever like I try to like find my shaco and then like someone takes my, my, my like shaco and like, yeah.
01:19:40
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what we got numbers for original stuff we got numbers on them yeah We all love how arrows had like, no, what are we doing? And came up with two.

World Series Excitement and Baseball Humor

01:19:51
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Yeah. love that Welcome to the podcast arrows. You're now a host. Good work.
01:20:00
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Eros just casually threw Joey under the bus right there. I love that. Yeah. I was like, I was like, that's definitely me. Yeah. Things are much better this year at Eva. We've definitely been mom and pop and like, Hey, just come this weekend and we'll figure it out. Uh, but yeah, I'm, I'm also who's, who Eros is complaining about right now as a former director of his. Well, Joey, but so wait that's the perfect segue into your, what are we doing?
01:20:28
Speaker
i don't want I don't want to make Trish upset, but yeah, i'llll i'll it'll be this is a teamwork thing here. I'll say, what are we doing ah having a band competitions the weekend of the start of the world series? Yes. Yes. That part. That part.
01:20:46
Speaker
Let's do that. I will say I'm very excited for this World Series. This isn't band related, but oh my goodness, it's the only thing that I do that's not band related. And it's it's support my my ah Los Angeles Dodgers. um go go Go Dodgers, go Yankees, honestly. um after After what is it? What is it? 40 years? 40 years we're back together in the series? yeah No. So it's one time we get to compete?
01:21:11
Speaker
I was an Orioles fan. um know I've been an Orioles fan since I was a kid. So the fact that they left after the first couple of days. It's like the American League is up in here anyway. But i was happy I was happy that the Yankees and the Dodgers, because that's like that's old school. that's that's the yeah you know It should be that way. That's a big rivalry, yeah.
01:21:27
Speaker
i had it so I had a conversation with my band director today, and the original is a game Friday night, and we don't perform at the away games, but since the color guard sort of has to go or wants to go because the football team's are really good, I make them bring their equipment and we spin just like we would be performing at halftime, like, all right, we're going to come out at the end of first quarter, and then we'll go watch the other band, and then you get your snacks, and then we're going to spin again.
01:21:53
Speaker
So, um, we were a little short on staff for buses this weekend. I was like, even before the Yankees clinched, I was like, listen, of the color guard volunteers to stay back at the school and practice. I think I'd do a little like, yeah. Oh, you know, you're missing the game, but I'll have one of the moms bring hot chocolate, you know, all that kind of stuff. Right. So I thought that was still the plan. So when like arrows is over here talking about you didn't get the schedule until you know today, I didn't get the schedule for the weekend today. And I was like,
01:22:23
Speaker
Oh my God, it says on here, everybody's going to the game. So I texted the band or it goes like, what's the deal with Friday? And she's like, well, my plan is we'll just take, still take three buses, but we'll just put all the equipment on one bus. So nobody has to chaperone this bus. I was like, all right, so I'm good. Short rehearsing with the color guard. So like seven 30, let him go. She's like, well, no, I would still need you to chaperone one of the buses. I'm like, it's game one.
01:22:52
Speaker
it's gameline but yeahll and so right ill I is really good, so they don't stop the clock after it gets to like 35 nothing, so hopefully it'll be, and I'll be home, so. I just really hope that the video just comes out so everyone can see Trisha's face, which she said, it's game one.
01:23:15
Speaker
im the level of disappointment and disrespect. ah You know, there wasn't an Astros fan in here who has, who has had to put up with this for the last seven years. That's your problem. Simultaneously watching baseball and doing band. It's been fun. And it's, and it actually is not as hard as you think it is. I know, I know you think he's an audience fan of rookies.
01:23:45
Speaker
Yeah, but don't they Astros have a way to tell you before the game? They got a way to figure everything else out wires and everything else don't they have a way to tell you before the game whether they're gonna win or not They're playing at home are they playing away we can't win at home, but we can win on is it like two taps on the trash cab we're goingnna wait to know my retail on the trash can Oh, here we go. This is what happened now. i was I knew this was going to happen. Every time. Love it. All you listeners out there, the girl not only knows the marching arts, she know baseball too. Okay.
01:24:26
Speaker
oh and sports ball i do I do have to clarify that this happens in the group chat as well on a on a somewhat consistent basis. It does. So this is not just podcast things. This also happens via text. i I'm just glad I brought it to to life so the listeners could could see what goes what goes on behind the scenes. Appreciate y'all.
01:24:54
Speaker
All right, Austin, it's your turn. What are we doing? Oh, goodness. All right. First of all, what are we doing not canceling the World Series? Because the Yankees and the Dodgers both suck. But I'm done. I'm done. I'm done. I won. The Dodgers both suck. So we should what are we doing not canceling the World Series?
01:25:14
Speaker
Austin, and when I get my season ticket package at Christmas, because my boyfriend is very generous, and gets me a season ticket package at Christmas, if I have an Astros game on there, you coming up and you going with me. Because I want you to get everything that's said at Yankee Stadium. Everything that's said at Yankee Stadium. You know what? I'm OK with it. I'm OK with it. I'll go. I will go. I'm going to probably get some sort of food or beverage item thrown on me at one point, but I'm about it. Oh, 1,000%.
01:25:43
Speaker
And it might be by me. I would also like to go. A Yankees fan, an Astros fan, and a Dodgers fan enter Yankee Stadium. What could possibly go wrong? but I don't know much about sports ball, but I don't know that that's going to work out well for somebody. No. Not me. I'll tell you that right now. No. It's not going to work out well for me. Old school jump course.

Growth and Collaborations in the Music Community

01:26:10
Speaker
Oh, goodness. um Yeah. What are we doing?
01:26:15
Speaker
trying What are we doing not watching all these fabulous BOA bands at their regionals?
01:26:23
Speaker
Like i got all I got a little snippet of the Super the super Regional in Indianapolis last weekend. Goodness. and you're You're leading into my what are we doing? Do you want to kind of team off of this for you? Let's do it. let's let's let's get So I am, um i'm i'm not like I'm not purchasing another streaming service just because I have plenty. um So I'm getting my little snippets of the BOA season from social media. What are we doing getting to that one moment where we build up and it's like a beautiful solo is playing and then we're going to get to that moment up where there's about to be an amazing flag feature and then we cut it off.
01:26:59
Speaker
Yes. What are we doing about that? It's happening. I hate to say it. It's happening in Texas more often than anywhere else right now. I just want to see a little double flag feature. I just want to see that big giant swing flag open up. Like, that's what I live for. And give me like 32 counts of that phrase. And then you can cut it off. They cut it off on count one every time. Every single time. The thing is, if you kind of watch and listen musically, it kind of cuts off too. I'm just like,
01:27:30
Speaker
Yeah. Where's the effect moment? What are we doing? You get me there? And it's like, oh, great. Yeah, we're not there yet. OK. I get this just like snippet and a little taste of it. And then it's gone. It's just, uh, it's driving me crazy. What are we doing? he's been talking um Cindy's been talking about that. Great job, everyone. Set your equipment down. Gush and go.
01:27:51
Speaker
All right, people. We are now to our gush and go's, Trish. I think I already know what you're gonna gush and go about, but go ahead sister. I was gonna gush and go about my winter guard going to Dayton for the first time this year, but if you want me to do the Yankees or in the World Series, I can do that too. No, we've had enough of that. I'm gonna go back to what are we doing about making our podcast about the marching arts all about sports ball.
01:28:22
Speaker
So my Northern Valley Winter Guard, Divide Schools Winter Guard, who um has been in this business since made this myself from novi we delay now relay, now it's last again, is going to Dayton this year. Congratulations. Thank you. It's super exciting. Is this your first time to take this group too? This group, yes, this group, this group, yeah.
01:28:51
Speaker
So I'm excited. It's a fun time when you get to go for that first trip with kids. The logistics are making me crazy because the band director's doing this for the first time. And that's why I'm texting y'all in the group chat. I'm like, dude, how y'all getting your kids there? Because $12,000 for a bus from New Jersey is a lot of money. But I think we're going to fly. And we're looking at what we're going to do about that. So don't be surprised. WJ has it discounted. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We're looking into all that.
01:29:21
Speaker
um Look at the group rates on Southwest. Oh, okay. um I'll take any advice I could get, obviously. So yeah, so it's it's really exciting. I mean, I remember the first time I even brought them to a show in 2016, a little novice group, and now here it is.
01:29:38
Speaker
Here we go, so, you know. It's growth. And the kids keep talking about on a water break. So they're like, can we be on it? I'm like, I don't know how that works, like with clearances and school stuff, but whatever. I'll get them, you know, they might swing by the tent, you know, and whatever. That'll be cool, but really excited. Awesome. All right, Pat.
01:30:04
Speaker
ah I'm actually super excited to be hopping on the team at River City and we're also bringing out a wins group this year. So we're we're doing two things with them. So adding to the wins groups and WGI, which is always an exciting part while still being a part of of what I do with Horizon and and some other groups. And so just having a ah new team to work with and and continuing to grow that that part of the activity is kind of a ah ah goal of mine since we started all that. I'm just excited about it. Hey Pat, what class are they coming out in? Hey class.
01:30:34
Speaker
Heck yeah. Yeah. Nice. Iris, what do you want to gush and know about? a um as a as a As a music a major and here at WCU, I just kind of want to gush and go about how like I'm passing my classes and surviving my second year here so far. So college is hard, especially as a music major when you have like, like, bazillion, jillion classes. And yeah.
01:31:08
Speaker
That's awesome. All right, Joey. I really don't have anything other than we're we're almost done with band here in North Carolina. We got two more weeks. um So we're just going to continue pushing. BOA is coming up. So I'll see everybody there. It sounds like I'm going to be um at Midwest this year. So if you want to come hang out of Midwest or in Indy here in ah in about a month, come Come hang out. Come say hi. Let's vibe out. um And starting winter stuff. Eva's got their first audition coming up in two weeks. We're super excited about that. And that's about it. Yeah. I'm just abandoned. Nice. Yeah. Austin, what are you guessing and going about? I got two. But I'll make it quick, I promise. So Jeremy, don't yell at me.
01:32:01
Speaker
um yeah First of all, um officially announced, I am gonna be doing design work for ForwardWinds out of Arizona.
01:32:13
Speaker
I'm going to be coming in open class. we're not going I don't think we're going to go to Dayton this year. We're just trying to get ah just trying to kind of reestablish the program, get a couple of things working. But I'm really excited to get to work with the team. seems like Seems like a great group of people so far. I've had great conversations with them. But I would not be in the position without my dear i would not be in this position without my dear friend Pat. That's my other gush and go. Having people like Pat in my corner to support me.
01:32:42
Speaker
We love Pat. He's been around for... He's been around my career for... He marched with Jesus, so... I know he did. Oh, wow. But he's not as old as Todd. No. I'm AD. He's BC. Exactly.
01:33:04
Speaker
All right, well. okay Yeah, he's great. I love Pat. He's been around since 2017 and he's taught me and we've taught together and it's just it's just a such such a fun relationship that we've had. And shout out, just a quick shout out to Pat. And we got to go to Hawaii in the fall. We did go to Hawaii together. Yeah, I'm jealous of that. Well, I am gonna gush and go and and say that today I finished writing my last feature for my marching band show.
01:33:32
Speaker
Now all I have left away are transitions. Oh no. Yeah. Oh no, not the transitions. Transitions have now. So, you know, we're in a good place. Okay. Can't wait to see them.
01:33:50
Speaker
Hey, it's called Gush and Go, not Gush and Stay. Let's go. Thanks everybody for a great rehearsal this week. Thanks to our host Trish. Joey and Austin. Eros, where can they find you on social media? um I have an Instagram. It's it's named ah Fix-It Grunt. So F-I-X-I-T-G-R-U-N-T. So if they want to follow me, they can follow me there. Awesome. And Pat, what about you?
01:34:26
Speaker
Uh, just Pat Miller on Facebook. And I also have Pat doing things on Instagram, which I have to get going again, but it's a fun one that my daughters put together a couple of years ago. Shows what I'm doing at the time. Cool.
01:34:40
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