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The One That's Our Season FInale - Part 2
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Stephen hosts this week as Christine joins Ricardo, Jack, and Trish as they listen to more clips and talk Water We Doing and Gush and Go's!
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Season Finale Announcements
00:00:00
Speaker
Hey everyone, we are back for another exciting week of rehearsals. This week we are having our season two finale part two. And we're also going to find out what made Christine say. You know, maybe blame all the elementary kids that ask me insane questions all day or something like that.
00:00:19
Speaker
and why Jack said. Much like a bass drum, it's also a visual. but Yeah, exactly. All this and more, so get out on the field and we will see you back on the sidelines for this week's episode of On A Water Break.
Reflections and Introductions
00:00:35
Speaker
Eight off the Met and go. Welcome to On A Water
00:00:46
Speaker
Everyone, bring it in. It's time for a water break.
00:00:53
Speaker
All right, welcome everyone to the final episode of season two of On a Water Break, the podcast where we talk about everything you and your friends are talking about at rehearsal on a water break. I'm Steve McCarrick and I can't believe it's been 52 episodes this season. I remember it just felt like we started season two with Eric Carr about a year ago, almost 52 weeks ago. And here we are not counting all of our bonus content. We've made it a whole year to season three.
00:01:22
Speaker
so You may have already listened to our part one of our season two finale where we played some trivia. We listened to some clips from the podcast throughout the season. But to continue on here, we're adding in our producer, Christine, and we've got almost everyone from part one here to join us. So this week here, we've got Trish.
00:01:43
Speaker
We've got Ricardo, ah Jack, and then we've got Christine here with us as well. Christine, thanks for popping on for this second half of our season two finale.
Christine's 2024 Highlights
00:01:55
Speaker
Hi everybody. Yeah, how you been? How's your 2024 been going? Well, 2024 is kind of I don't know, it's kind of hard to say it's a little bit of both. It's a little bit of rinse, repeat, you know, guard closet just kind of rinses repeats. And we continue on with the same set kind of stuff with that. My teaching job is kind of rinse, repeat, although I'm enjoying a little bit calmer and quieter year than I had last year. And
00:02:23
Speaker
You know, worked in some travel and, you know, got to go to the west coast all the way to the west coast for the first time back in the summer. You got to check out Disneyland. Well, you heard that from Jeff a couple of episodes ago talking about that. So, um, yeah, you know, good stuff.
00:02:41
Speaker
Well, that's great. I'm glad that you're here. Glad you had a good 2024 so far. And we're here wrapping up season two finale. So we've got Trish Ricardo and Jack on the line with us as well, but We just got done recording our season two finale, something that stood out to me. It was crazy. Just like how long we've been doing this now and how, how frequently
Show Longevity and Achievements
00:03:04
Speaker
this, the show comes out. Like I think Nicole did 17 episodes. I did 14 of them. Like, it's just pretty, uh, pretty cool. This like thing we're a part of here. I love, uh, doing all these episodes, but treasure. Is there anything that, uh, stood out to you from season two or from the finale? We just recorded that you thought was like, whoa.
00:03:26
Speaker
I would like to mention that I won, I think, two out of three or four of the trivia questions. Yeah, because you've been working hard. I would like to, you know, I'd like to give myself a shout out there. um I thought it was really awesome to have Jackie back from maternity leave. I thought that was really great. Yeah, I I heard that Jackie was pregnant and then I have not heard from Jackie since then. Exactly.
00:03:53
Speaker
It's how on a water break worked out for me. We got to split these responsibilities. It was cool to talk to her again. Yeah,
Journey from Guest to Host
00:04:00
Speaker
it really was. So that, and always, you know, recapping WGI and all our good times together always makes me smile. So we do what we love. We love what we do. Right.
00:04:13
Speaker
Yeah, I'm happy to be back on the show here for, you know, another season three coming up and then, you know, continuing down the road of teaching and seeing what more cool stuff we can get up to. I definitely have big plans for 2025, I would say. It starts with the United, but it does not stop there. So I'm excited to tell you guys more as we get on. But excellent. Ricardo, is there anything that you thought stood out from 2024 or from season two?
00:04:41
Speaker
Uh, yeah, the fact that I went from being a guest on an episode to a guest host to a full-time host. So, um, I'm going to say that 24 was kicking it for me. Yeah. I had a good time. Yeah. We've been happy to have you on. It's been, uh,
00:05:01
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I feel like immediately everyone was in agreeance. We were like, okay, so Ricardo should probably have his own show. We should have Ricardo on anytime Ricardo wants to come on. Oh, these guys. That's so awesome. Yeah,
Listener Engagement and Fan Involvement
00:05:15
Speaker
no. This is fun. It's fun by going from being a fan of the podcast to actually being on the podcast and then now having my guest room set up as the on a water break studio for Florida.
00:05:29
Speaker
That's really interesting, though. It's really cool, though, like ah that you came in from this and at first you were just listening to the show and then now you get to be a part of it. um When I first heard about the show, it was like Jeremy from across a dinner table at a mommer's hall. He was like, so Steven, we need you. We need some younger percussion folks up in the mix.
00:05:52
Speaker
it was yeah
Favorite Episodes and Interviews
00:05:53
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so i I got in, Nicole asked me to do like a recording. and It was like a question for something for an episode that was happening. And so I recorded that and then she goes, Hey, do you want to be a guest on the show? And I was like, Oh my God, I love the show. She's like,
00:06:09
Speaker
you listen to the show, I was like, yeah, I was like, I listen all the time. I was like, it's a podcast about the marching arts. Hello, yeah, I'm a fan. Exactly. That's exactly right. Who would have thought a year ago that I would be here on the season finale recording as one of the hosts for the season finale recording? Well, who knows? It's a show for the marching arts buff. Maybe one of you listening will be here on the season finale next year.
00:06:36
Speaker
You know, someone that we love talking to week after week. Hey guys, dreams do come true. All you gotta do is ask. Just ask. Literally ask. Hit us up at on a water break on Instagram or or other social medias. We'd be happy to chat to anyone that's a big marching arts buff. but Jack, what about your 2024? What did you think joining the show?
Bass Drumming Community and Future Aspirations
00:07:00
Speaker
I think this last year too, right? Yeah. Yeah. I know. It's been a blast. This past season has been really cool because I've been really focused on doing a one-on-one specials. I loved talking with Rob Jett this year. That was a blast. He's always a treat. That episode was awesome. That was really great. It was just so much fun to just pick that guy's brain. You know what I mean? Like freaking legend. Absolutely. And, um, you know,
00:07:26
Speaker
I really like that type of panel format where where you we're able to bring in those professionals who've had that experience for so long. right And I feel like this is the best platform to really provide like really beneficial information and experienced information to new instructors. so And I know that a bunch of instructors listen to our podcasts, so i mean like it's an excellent Really good resource. So providing that's been awesome this year. Also had a blast bringing on some of the West coast drum majors, the West coast drum majors scene, and then the Scottish game scene to the podcast, a little bit more niche, but I i think it really helps round out the show. And I'm, you know, it's been, it's been fun bringing so many people on so that stories are heard and, and, and great experiences are shared with everyone. So, you know, it's been a blast. I hope you guys have, I hope you guys have enjoyed at least listening to some of those special episodes.
00:08:16
Speaker
Yeah, totally, man. I think it's cool too. Like doing the show, you get to really meet a lot of different people. You can kind of set up conversations that you want to have. Like ah you want someone's brain, you get to just say, Hey, why don't you come be on the show? We're going to make a cool episode and I'm going to get to ask, you know, whoever, whatever drum guy, everything I want to know. I definitely look forward to that with season three. Want to get even more drum people on the line.
00:08:42
Speaker
That kind of brings me towards my first clip here that I wanted to share from season two that I was super excited about. My clip was from the one about bass drumming. Kind of makes sense for me, obviously, but we had an episode I was able to bring on like the tech from RCC and Broken City, a really close friend of mine who's the tech from George Mason and then myself teaching united and we just like did a whole episode about bass drum and we the like impetus of the episode was this cool bass drum clinic that happened out in southern california so it was cool let's uh let's go through this clip real quick and then we can talk a little more about it and i want to wrap this send it to a commercial in just a sec i was thinking of something a minute ago that i think is so cool i go of bass drummers that you put together
00:09:31
Speaker
you know, largest gathering of bass drummers, probably in history. I don't think that there ever would have been a moment where there would be more bass drummers occupying the same space, especially in a higher concentration. You know, so like, pretty cool. What do you mean? He made me think that way when he said that bass drummers are always so like,
00:09:53
Speaker
clicky and and stuck to each other. It's like, wow, this is a giant, giant gaggle of bass drummers that you put together. With the 65 students, 18 texts. I'm not good at math, I just play bass drum, dude. Yeah, I thought that was so cool. They had 65 students, 18 texts like they just mentioned. Every single person in the room was a bass drummer, which like Normally bass drumming might be one of the smallest subsections in the entire drum corps I think you'd be fine like hard-pressed to find a section that has five or less people every single year Might be like maybe tubas, but even tubas I think have more people So I thought it was like super cool that they were able to put it put together an event that it like was all about bass drumming for bass drummers such a niche concept
00:10:45
Speaker
Like, let's make a whole entire episode about this like niche side of drumming that I love so much. so
Drum Major Championship Highlights
00:10:52
Speaker
After doing the show for so long, it it was really like kind of special to me to do one that was so close to home. I thought that was awesome. Definitely want to try to do a Baystrom camp of my own someday on the East Coast. I think that was a huge thing that I learned from that episode. There's a lot that would go into it, but I learned so much about like the undertaking of putting together a clinic. So we'll see about that. Maybe that's something that I can talk about in 2025 upcoming.
00:11:21
Speaker
but What did you guys think? Well, first of all, fun fact, the only instrument that I have ever marched on the field for marching band was bass drum. I played bass drum for three years before I was drum major, all the while I was the color guard director and teaching the color guard, but I marched bass drum. i um and I jumped into the episode because I was like, okay, let's Let's go back to my percussion roots. And it was really fun to hear people like ex the experts talk about like this drum that is so often like people I feel like people overlook the bass drums a lot. But at the heart of the matter, like the bass drums are like the coolest drummers in the baguette. We're just chilling in the back. No one's paying attention to us. We're just chilling back there. And they are always a vibe. My friends have always been bass drummers because you know, it's a vibe.
00:12:17
Speaker
The base drivers are definitely the best people. I can vouch for that. Link, wink, nod, nod. There you go. ah you know Mr. Base One that I happen to live with. um you know I think it's cool, too. I like what you said, Ricardo, as is often overlooked as a section. I would totally agree with that. And really, if you think about it, one of the hardest working sections of the battery, because they have to rely on each other so much. I've heard so many stories.
00:12:46
Speaker
of you know so-and-so didn't know his parts and then we or so-and-so got hurt and then we had to relearn all of our parts for the show you know right beforehand or something like that I mean there's a lot going on there in in a good bass section and you know it's it's definitely an important part of the battery an essential part of the battery And also just from like an execution standpoint, when you see like the baseline, like cooking, like it is a machine. is It is an absolute machine. So like, not only is it like an amazing sound that that instrument produces, but like the visual of it is there's so much you can do in regards to visual. And I mean, like, just go watch, just go watch DCI, see what they're doing. See what they're cooking up there. There's something new and interesting every year in regards to the bass drop. So yeah.
00:13:34
Speaker
Well, a good baseline is GE, especially in WGI. It's a little harder to get it in DCI, but WGI, good baselines are GE all the time. That's going on the T-shirt. A dead baseline is GE. Yeah, that'll be my T-shirt, one of my first T-shirts that I'll put out. I got you.
Teaching Experiences and Connections
00:13:57
Speaker
Well, let's see, maybe we got some good drum major concepts too. I know the drum major, much like the bass line, one of the smallest sections in the drum corps, probably the smallest one, two or three, you guys. Um, Jack, what do you guys, what did what was your clip from a 2024 that you wanted to share with us?
00:14:15
Speaker
Yeah, so the clip that I had from 2024 was from our Drum Major state California State Championship video. So basically I rounded up two of the of the recent Southern California champions and then two of the recent Northern California champions. And so the past four or five years, it's basically been basically been a NorCal, SoCal, NorCal, SoCal win.
00:14:36
Speaker
either way. So it's been going back and forth like mad. So the competition is great here on the West Coast for drum majoring. But it was fun to just sit down with ah the past four state champions and just shoot, um just shoot all the concepts that we had about like, you know, like, what, what does it mean to be a drum major? What was our our experience like? And, you know, like,
00:14:55
Speaker
like like our our journey going through that position. And so the bit the clip is with my my really good friend Chance. we're We're judges now for drum majors on the West Coast, but it it talked about the first time we saw each other. So let's get it played.
00:15:11
Speaker
And then, so the the year of 2018, up in Fresno, it was in this big old stadium and it was so cool getting to like rehearse out in the parking lot, warm up. I remember seeing you two, it was the first time the paths crossed and I was like, you look kind of weird. You're totally baton. And I'm like, you're with my base. It was like the first NorCal SoCal crossover in like 30 years and we're just like,
00:15:35
Speaker
ah heck are you? and anyway i think That was the first year they did a state championship, right? Yeah, exactly. Yeah, since like what early 2000s? Yep, yep, it was. Yeah, so it was great. It was great to out. ah I think we were just so fortunate that our senior year was the year that they brought back the state championship after it had broken apart in the 90s and early 2000s. Our first year was sort of the first crossover event in regards to the NorCal-style drum major and the Hisokal-style drum major. so that
00:16:06
Speaker
bridge work, like that first step towards bridging California back together was awesome. And even though it was like a small moment where I was like, yeah, you look really weird. I've never seen that type of drum major before. Like it was, it's, it's so funny to look back at it now, now that we have that establishment of the state championship and every year we have that going, how things have grown and how we've taken concepts from both sides and really, really pushed the art, the art from forward for drum majors. So,
00:16:32
Speaker
It's a small clip, but it means a lot to me. So, you know, it's been awesome. please i it's crazy um It sounds like a foreign language to to some of you guys, though right? Okay. Well, here goes another fun fact. ah I was a major for five years, um two years in high school, three years in college. and I had no idea that this entire facet of the world existed. And had I known this back in my drum majoring days, I would have definitely liked to have participated in this activity. You need to come to a competition. We type it out, Ricardo. I want to come. Can I bring my mace? You should. You should. And you should do some on the ground on the ground coverage. like like We would love to have you. Oh my god. Oh my god. Producers, both of our producers are here tonight. so um
00:17:20
Speaker
Jeremy and Christine, can we make this an expense for the podcast so that I can get some plane tickets? Get some plane tickets. Hawaii Steven to percussion championships. Okay. And then I just got beat to the bunch there with the buzzer. So I guess you guys know what the answer is.
00:17:44
Speaker
oh Well, definitely happy to have you on the show. I'm glad that we have a a drum major voice. It feels like the show is rounding out in a lot of ways and getting, you know, like all the different sections of the ensemble more represented. So it's been awesome having you and I look forward to all the different stuff that you'll record in 2025, Jack. Thank you, Steve. Christine, what about you? What was your 2024 clip?
00:18:12
Speaker
ah The 2024 clip that I picked was from our good friend Ricardo right here. And ah what I really liked about it was that um it kind of transcended or it Like what we were talking about just a couple moments ago, we were talking about how you know our podcast encompasses so many aspects of the marching arts. And what I really liked about what Ricardo said he was talking about making connections with students. And you know that can happen in so many positive ways, no matter what we're you know what type of ensemble,
00:18:49
Speaker
We are involved with how competitive the the ensemble is. if It's um you
Tribute to Peggy Twiggs
00:18:55
Speaker
know a group that doesn't compete. It doesn't matter. Anytime there's an ensemble and anytime there's an instructor and student, there's going to be that sense of community building. There's going to be that sense of relationship building.
00:19:08
Speaker
And that really speaks to me a lot as a full-time teacher because, you know, that's what I'm doing. I'm teaching, you know, elementary kids how to blow into the right end of the instrument and, you know, play five notes in concert B flat. But I'm also, you know, making connections with kids too, and hopefully, you know, making lasting connections with them. As I'm getting older, I'm running into more of my former students at school.
00:19:37
Speaker
um i Yeah, I Teach right alongside several of my former students some who were my middle school students years ago and some of that were my marching band students years ago and It's really awesome to see them now many of them, you know get into education Maybe they're not necessarily music educators and that's fine They're still involved in making connections with people and making connections with students and building community and all kinds of
Season Highlights and Fan Interactions
00:20:10
Speaker
things like that. I just ran into another one of my former students the other day. I didn't even recognize him. He didn't even recognize me at first. And then a couple days later, he came up to me and said,
00:20:22
Speaker
Hey, you were my band director. And I said, What's your name again? And he told me and just like, you know, fireworks. But I'm like, Oh, my goodness. It's so good to see you. And I hadn't seen him in maybe like 15 years.
00:20:39
Speaker
ah So it was it was really neat. So ricar the clip I have of Ricardo is talking about making connections with students and the fact that you know a lot of the things that we teach them, all these you know wonderful shows and and you know this choreography and this drill set and this bit of music and all that stuff, that's all wonderful. But what's really more important than that and most important is all those connections and memories that they're going to make.
00:21:07
Speaker
so Go ahead, like roll it. They have this little tiny moment with you and whatever that tiny moment is, they go, hey, I remember when he he got a Jolly Rancher for me. Or you know sometimes I take candy out to the field and I just walk around and I sneak him to kids and I hear, eat this. you know like it's You have to do those things.
00:21:27
Speaker
to make the kids want to be there. Make them remember because that's the stuff that they're going to remember in the end. They're not going to remember, you know, five, six, seven, eight. They're not going to remember where you placed. They're not going to remember any of that stuff. They're going to remember the bond that they had with the instructors. They're going to remember the bond. and a See, this warms my heart because, you know, I am in the retirement year. So everything is like the last this, the last that for me right now. And so we just finished our state championships on Saturday. We had our community night on Wednesday night before we get ready to leave. And I looked out in the audience and there were all of these former students that had been color guard members that just came back to the show just because they wanted to be there.
00:22:15
Speaker
and also parents of kids that graduated years ago. And it's really hard for me right now, stepping out of the classroom and into this new role where I'm not directly going to have you know a set group of students that I'm going to follow for four years.
00:22:32
Speaker
um And, but just seeing all of those people there and and knowing that they came back because of that was their home and to be able to make a home for those students. And that's the the one thing that I want to, wanted to always do for my kids is like, make sure that they had a place where they felt loved and at home. And because my directors did that to me, like when I go home to Mississippi, I i still talk to my college band director. I still talk to my high school,
00:23:03
Speaker
Chorus teacher I still talk to my vocal coach like I talked to all of these people because they had such an impact on my life and they made a home for me and I just wanted to be that person for for my kids and I strive to do that still and Hopefully in my new life this will transition over a little bit and I can make that still happen but it's just important how we treat kids
Ricardo's Retirement Announcement
00:23:26
Speaker
and how we What we do and building our programs you can't build a program if you don't have kids that believe in what you do and they're not gonna come back and they're not going to want to continue to work hard for you if they don't feel loved and cherished and That's just my mo. So thanks for picking my clip Christine. I appreciate that. Well, of course, I mean I
00:23:51
Speaker
And also think too about how it impacts them, you know, going forward. And like I said, I get to see some of my former students on a daily basis and I get to see them teaching. I get to see one of them as a principal.
00:24:06
Speaker
And yeah, yeah yeah he's not one of my principals, but he's still in the district and I get to see him be a principal and it's really neat. And I also think too about how I still maintain maintain connections with people that were my instructors or directors. And I just think when you were talking just at Ricardo, it made me think of this past year when I was at Homecoming for Penn State and you know, I'm there in a block of 400 alumni and I was kind of apprehensive about doing it this year because um None of my other friends were available. They all had other things to do and I thought how do I really want to do this? You know because I don't know as many of the other alumni there aren't anybody won't be anybody else from when the time I marched there and And I'm still so glad I did it because
00:25:00
Speaker
I made connections with other people, you know, despite the fact that they weren't people that I marched with. And yeah, and I'm sitting there at rehearsal and, you know, we're getting ready for some announcements and things like this. And one of our former directors is also an alumni. So he marches with us every year. And, you know, he just walked by and I went really wasn't paying attention. And also they felt like a just paddle my shoulder.
00:25:29
Speaker
And, you know, there he was. And he was the director for many, many years and taught hundreds of students, you know, not only as a music professor, but as the director of the marching band. But he took that time just to walk past me and just, you know, give me a quick pat on the shoulder and say hi. And I'm telling you, you know, that means the absolute world to me that he just took that small moment just to say hello.
00:25:59
Speaker
Go State. Right. You got to be somebody's person. And that's the thing that I ah really strive for is the fact that like you know whatever happens, i I want to know that there are kids out there in this world that like when they think back on their high school career and they think about the good things, they go, oh, that was my person. So yeah, it's magic. That's the magic.
00:26:25
Speaker
It definitely is that personal connection that I can remember being what like kind of draws you to the activity as well. It's like one good teacher, one good educator is what makes you from a high school band kid to like a band person. So totally cool for Ricardo to do that for so many students, but for all of us as well, I know everyone on the call does that for all of our students.
Teaching Success and Future Projects
00:26:47
Speaker
So Trish, what do you have for us for 2024, your favorite clip? So i think it was late july early on i guess it was late july
00:27:00
Speaker
aye After we had lost Peggy Twiggs, the legendary color guard instructor, we did a tribute episode to her. That episode meant so much to me for so many different reasons. First of all, we had Barbara Hopkins on the show who was a former 27th Lancer. She talked about being I think it a was late July early on. member of the 27th Lancers and going out I guess it was on late July. the field. She talked about so many of those experiences and I was that little girl standing at the fence watching probably her performing going, Oh my God. So I was, I had moments of fan girl, which were probably the better clips, but I really wanted to use this clip because it was kind of
00:27:46
Speaker
ah Jackie asked us to kind of talk about, you know, kind of our gush you go to be about Peggy and Peggy related and what did we want to say. And Peggy was one of my instructors when I was in Royal Guardsman. She lived in Massachusetts and we practiced in Queens, New York. So it wasn't like she was a full-time regular, but she came in now and again to tell. I chose this clip because I feel like I'm so grateful for that whole period of time in my life. And I feel like the instructor and the person I am today is because of my marching experiences. And I wanted to use this clip because I'm actually thanking her for everything she did and it can't be said enough. So I wanted to say it again on this podcast. so
00:28:32
Speaker
um Let's hit it. ah To Peggy, i would I want to say thank you. I think I said everything I could, Sadie, when I ran into you guys in the Dayton Airport that year. um you know Thank you for... you know, everything that she taught me, everything. I know it was only a really short time. I do have a really short story. So um she also came back with Jerry and George and that whole crew in 1986, which was our Dindata year. Those of you who remember that show.
00:29:05
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um Thank you. So there was one part of the show where um I was a saber, and then and in in the middle of Dindada, almost all the sabers went on rifle, except for myself and one other girl, Jackie. And she was like a soloist. So when there was one part in rehearsal where sheet the Denise Banfiglio took the rifles, and she was over there with them. Yeah. So the moral of that story was was that she was so chill when
00:29:37
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She came over and I was spinning by myself and she's like, why are you over here by yourself? And I'm like, cause I'm not in that part and I'm not a rifle. And she was just like, um okay, cool. Like it wasn't anything like get out there or, you know, whatever. I'm just kind of going over my work on my own and that's how she was. And, um, yeah, so that was why that whole episode, I, I, I actually got choked. I'm getting choked up again, but I actually got choked up in that episode a lot of times and, you know,
00:30:06
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Thank you. Thanks for you. That is really cool. It's something that I hope we get to do more of with On a Water Break. I think we do a good job every now and then of like making some really cool historic content where it's just like taking the time to do an episode that really covers something that like you don't think about every day, something that's like more about the basis of drum corps and like what made the activity that we do today.
00:30:36
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And like, and the key players who basically added so much to our, and like, I feel like that's a gem of of this podcast is being able to document those things, right? Yeah, that Piggy Twigs episode was such a really cool episode for exactly that, like just documenting such an important, like,
00:30:56
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Integral part of what made color guard what it is today. I hope we get to do a little bit more of that um For the entire rest of a drum corps as we go throughout, you know doing more episodes in 2025 and beyond so we're gonna be back here with ah Water redoings gushing goes and more content to wrap up season two right after this but let's pop to a quick ah commercial break
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00:32:44
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All right, well, it has been a blast talking about season two favorite moments and other sorts of recaps from the year. But I've got a couple of hot takes that I want to talk about. So what are we doing? What are we doing? What are we doing?
00:33:07
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Trish, I think that one of my favorite things that we added this year has gotta be the water are we doing bit, and I love it for your intro, especially. I got a text from Jeremy when we were when he wanted that and he was like, I need you to record yourself saying what are we doing like five times. So I went in my bathroom, I closed my door and I said it like five times. I was like, what are we doing? it What are we doing? What are we doing? And that's the one they passed.
00:33:40
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And we landed on one of the most New York possible renditions of what are we doing? You could have given us. I love it. Bronx born and raised here, honey. Even you just said it. I was going to say the same thing. And I love that about Trish every time. And that's cool, too, because both what are we doing voices are on right now. It's almost because it reminds me of how sometimes they, like on SNL or something, they have the person that they have. SNL cast members imitating color. So see, you guys are with yourselves right now. Right. In the fourth wall. Perfect. Right, right, right. So I mean, and Josh, you know, we should get Josh out here so that he can talk about his music too. No, I would just want Josh to be improvising with his keyboard and just giving us nothing but sound effects if Josh was here. Well, that's the guy, let's make a deal. You know, the guy that stands here where there's the keyboard the whole time and I forget what his name is, but, you know, we can have that. This is a season three goal. We're going to get like 20 new soundboard things. Oh, gosh. It's like Paul Jay for us. All right.
00:34:54
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all right Well, Trish, why don't you get us started? What are we doing this week? So what am I doing with this? setup that I have here at my kitchen table with this terrible lighting with this light like right over my head. Well, what am I doing? Season three, I'm gonna have a new little setup. So we're we doing redoing our bedroom. So there's a piece of furniture in my living room right now that's going to go in the bedroom and we're painting and doing all that kind of stuff. And my boyfriend, who's a big fan of the podcast,
00:35:30
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He's a kite and remember the kite story He bought me a new desk and a new chair So once we get the dresser out of here, I'll have a whole new little setup That would be like permanent. I won't be moving around with my kitchen in the background. So That's my goal for season three. What am I doing right now sitting at my kitchen table? I won't be much longer What are you doing? You're being the most prolific host of on a water break is what you're doing. I don't know. Thank you.
00:36:06
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Well, that's going to be awesome. I'm excited for you to step it up even further um and just keep on growing the show. We've been happy to have you on here. Thank you. So that's going to be cool. Let's see. I'm excited to see ah what you can cook up back there for season three. But, uh, Ricardo, what are we doing this week? What are we doing about not having our friends listen to the podcast?
00:36:34
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a ands I'm gonna call you out. I'm gonna call you out. My friends who don't even have any affiliation in the marching arts other than they are just my fan support group, listen to the podcast. And it is a weekly thing after the podcast is released on Friday. I started getting all these text messages in my best friend group. Like, oh my God, what was Trish talking about this? And what does Siva was talking about this? And I didn't know this whole thing existed. And then I have to go through and explain all of this stuff.
00:37:04
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but it's really nice to have friends that are supportive that listen to a podcast about a world that they're not even in when all of you who are listening have friends that are in this world that know exactly what we're talking about. So what are we doing about not making sure that our friends are listening to On A Water Break?
00:37:27
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e ah Jeremy, quick to applaud that one. Guilty as charged. No, you're right. i said ah i At this point, I really need to get more people listening to it, man. Because even when I was listening back, something I thought was cool was when I was listening back to figure out what clip I was going to present to the show. Because like honestly, a lot of the time I record the show, I don't necessarily always do a good job of listening to it back after the Oh, listen, I do not listen to myself. I listened to the first episode that I did and I was like, this is weird. So I 100% full, full disclosure listeners. I don't listen to the episodes that I'm on just because you're here I live through them and I don't want to hear my voice, but I do go back and listen to all of the episodes that I'm not on to hear what my friends are talking about. Mostly so that I don't seem stupid when I get on the podcast the next week.
00:38:23
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Just look at this great conversation. I mean, like I said, my friends that don't do this, like they have genuinely become listeners of the podcast. That's awesome. My husband listens to the podcast. i was like I called him the other day and he drives around a lot for work. and I was like, what are you doing? He was like, oh, I was listening to the the one of the episodes of your podcast. I was like, oh, which one? He was like, oh, you're not on it. Don't worry about it.
00:38:48
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like ah that's devotion that's But hey, that's good, you know, we're getting we're getting the word out to the quote civilians as well, right, you know, that's right true. Those who are not marching arts people, maybe they're going to learn some more about what, you know, all of us, you know, strange marching arts people do and, you know, get a little bit more maybe broader horizons about what it's all about so they understand what all of us crazy people are doing all the time and you know driving all over the place and going to hours upon hours of rehearsal and all these yeah things. so yeah you get this is Listen, band directors, color guard instructors,
00:39:30
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When you have to answer all of those crazy questions about all of the things, just tell your parents to listen to the show. They'll give insightful information and they'll be up in the know. And then you can have meaningful conversations with them while you're sitting around on a water break.
00:39:49
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Chaching, got the branding in there. I got the branding in there. I did it. And you got the sound effect, too. Yes. Well, i i'll I'll put it right out there. You're exactly right, Ricardo. In season three, I could do a better job of getting even more of my people to listen. We do something cool. It'd be fun to get ah even more folks in the fold and seeing what we're ah what we're up to here at on a water break. So I'll take that as my personal to do. But for now, in the meantime,
00:40:24
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Jack, what was your water redoing for this week? What are you kind of thinking about? Water redoing about getting young instructors onto the podcast for next season.
00:40:36
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i think I think I would love to have a podcast to just have a round table with young instructors. And, you know, like, let's even take it a step further. Let's bring some seasoned veterans in to just have that crossfire conversation on the podcast. I think that would be really fun to listen to. And I think, you know, it's a learning experience for everyone, you know, always learning, always growing. Right. So I think that would be a blast. Right. Yeah.
00:41:06
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I mean, I totally agree. I want to get more percussion people on. I ah still feel like we haven't gotten as much percussion as I want. And now to be candid, the amount of percussion that I would want is like.
00:41:20
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you know, nearly 100%. Not quite. The shows opened my mind. I'll take like 95%. But like, ah we you're here we're a little lacking up until there in this point. So maybe next year we can get a little bit more drum shows going. I'll try to get some of that cooking for us when I'm the host at least. Love it. ah Christine, what's your water we doing this week?
00:41:49
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Oh my gosh, I don't even know. I was thinking, I was like think listening. Gosh, I was listening to you guys talk and thinking, well, yeah, I can agree with that. And I can agree with that. And I can agree with that. And then I'm just kind of stuck right now. I don't know.
00:42:05
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you know Maybe blame all the elementary kids that ask me insane questions all day or something like that. I'm i'm just kind of like brainwashed right now. I can't even think of anything. Were we saying something recently in our text chat, something about ridiculous questions that kids ask? or that No, it was Joey.
00:42:25
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On a recent episode, okay he said ah something about you know the kids asking like these ridiculous questions. And I text all of you i guys, guys, this is every day, all day for me. you know So I guess maybe it's part of that. you know like What are we doing? And you know some of the kids, even the older kids who should know, they still, you know what's going on? I mean, um i mean Whitney texted us a story.
00:42:53
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from BOA, one of her student leaders. Oh my God. One of her student leaders got themselves into quite an interesting situation and injured themselves because they were trying to retrieve an electronic device. so I still can't believe that was real. Yeah, but it was very validating because it's like, hey, here's one of the top bands in the country at a national competition, right?
00:43:26
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And it's happening everywhere. So hey, maybe that's my what are we doing? What are we doing? Not you know using common sense sometimes and maybe thinking through. Common sense does not exist. Right. Yeah. Thinking through before you ask the question and stuff like that. you know Maybe that's it.
00:43:50
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Yeah, well, it's pretty crazy. I mean, even just talking about, like, crazy stuff our students will get up into, my students need to stop watching the news. I don't want to hear about the ditty parties. I don't want to hear about anything like that. Stop! I don't know what it is about being 15, but my little drumline students cannot stop being little edgelords all rehearsal long.
00:44:19
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bringing up anything that they see in the news. Do you guys deal with that? No, no, not ditty parties. No, I refuse to believe that this is just my high school. My 15 year olds make jokes about this. No, I mean, but they are, but I think they're getting their news from TikTok and it's just amazing. And they think they're watching the news, which is a whole nother topic of conversation for when honor water break goes political, but we're not going to do that today.
00:44:51
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Talk about a crossbar. Great job, everyone. Set your equipment down. Gush and go. All right. So ah Trish, what do you got for us to gush and go on here in our last episode of season two? So I keep forgetting this every time I record, um but it is a good gush and go every time I'm like, I shouldn't have done that one. So a few weeks back at US Dance New Jersey State Championships,
00:45:18
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ships um I'm bringing my color guard to the gate and I had my auto water break backpack with me and I'm standing there like getting ready to we're getting ready to go on the field and Some guy from US bands turns around tasks and he goes. Hey, how are you? I'm a big fan And I turned around, I was like, what? And he's like, yeah, listen to you on the podcast. He's on my back, but he's like, I listen to you on the podcast all the time. So we took a selfie. We did a quick little what are we doing video, but okay. 15 minutes of fame. So we're getting out there. People are listening and people are recognizing us. So that's actually so cool. Yeah. Wow.
00:46:04
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and getting noticed from the podcast in real life is like I've yet to breach that one. That would be a pretty crazy one. It was cool. It was cool. Well, that's awesome. I'm so so proud of the show growing in that way because there's not there's not a ton of like shows out here for the marching arts. So as far as it goes, we really we've we kind of build up a good little thing. If you if you're a big marching arts buff, you might listen to on a water break. At the very least, I would argue you should.
00:46:35
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but Ricardo, what do you got for us this week to gush and go on about? Oh my goodness. So after 29 very long years of being a performer or being a high school marching band, calling our director, I have just retired from the marching band round and I did it with the W by winning the Florida marching band championships. So I get it.
00:47:04
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Congrats. Good job. It's a little bittersweet. For those of you who follow me on Facebook, I did a recording from our last outdoor rehearsal, and I was down on the field with the kids. I almost got hit by a flag, and one of the kids was like, get out of my way, which I was like, yep, I trained you right to not worry about who's on the field with you, but to just do your job. um But it's it's a little sad, and I'm going to miss having that interaction with kids every day and doing all that stuff but it was really nice to like go out with the wind and like all of our hard work and through
00:47:40
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Three hurricanes this year, the tropical storm that started at the beginning of the school year, but this little bit and then the two major hurricanes that came through, we still somehow managed to get it all together, and the kids worked really hard in the end. And a lot of it was, they knew it was it was my last one, so they they wanted to make me proud, and Lord knows they did. They made me very proud. so I'm guessing about that and I'm going and not having to be at a marching band rehearsal anymore. Which also means stainless plug. um I am available for consultation. So, you know, if you need someone to be an eye for you, up hit me up. Well, congratulations, Ricardo. That is very well deserved and ah no better way to go out than to go out on top. So enjoy that one. Um,
00:48:33
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Jack, what do you got for us for Gush and Go's for this week? My Gush and Go for this week would have to be seeing two of my seniors graduate through their final competition. They both took birth One went to the NorCal Bay Regional then the other one went to the Valley Regional for NorCal and they both came away with like a score of 94 so it was like an outstanding performance from them and it these two Performers were amazing. They're the first the first girl drum majors that had been part of the position for the for the drum major position for their respective bands and the
00:49:16
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Kick butt they were so empowering and it was just so awesome to see um To see such strong inspiring leadership and that's the type of that's the type of stuff that bands that that like bands need to see you know um And I I'm gonna be the first one to say it's totally a male-dominated field. I think drum majoring and And the more women we can get in that art form, the more the better it's going to be. you know And so to see them take that step is just, I mean, it makes it makes my heart sing. So that's what I'm gushing and going about this week. Nice. Yeah, it's cool to see like even more people get involved with drum majoring. And really, like I bet that drum majoring and bass drumming have a similar thing going on where like
00:50:01
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It grows so much, because it's really not a lot of people do this. So every year, it's like becoming a bigger and bigger. And boys in color guard. We need we need more boys in color guard. All across the board, growing and and seeing it become a more like ah inclusive and just big picture type of activity that everyone can do. Love to see it. um Christine, what are you gushing and going on about this week?
00:50:30
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I'll get a gush and go about a really great rehearsal that I had just earlier today. Now I understand that I teach elementary band and I know that those kids aren't marching anywhere, but eventually hopefully some of them will. And you always have to remember they got to start someplace. And if we don't sit them down and make sure that they put, you know, their left hand on top of the key but clarinet, and they put their right hand on the bottom and they play, you know, quarter notes and eighth notes correctly. They're not going anywhere else. And, um, I had,
00:51:06
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ah Our schedule at our school doesn't allow us to have full band rehearsals until right before the concerts. So we have only small group lessons and then we put them together for like two rehearsals and then they play a concert.
00:51:22
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And um yeah, so we work a lot of magic. and um But anyways, we make lemonade out of lemons every day. But when i what I meant to say was is that I had many students today experience their very first band rehearsal ever in their lives.
00:51:47
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and oh wow yeah And I was and another teacher and I worked together to teach this band. He and I i split the band between us and we were just amazed because um You know, the the teacher I work with, he was my student teacher several years ago, and he and I have been working together for a couple years now, and we just looked at each other and we said, oh my gosh, this is one of the best first band rehearsals we've ever, ever had. They rehearsal etiquette.
00:52:19
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was impeccable. It's like we didn't even have to say anything to them about rehearsal etiquette. It's like they knew exactly what to do. The younger kids watched the more experienced kids and are more experienced kids that played last year, set the example and you know show the younger kids what to do. And it was just this awesome coming together of, again, some kids who had never, ever been in a band rehearsal in their life.
00:52:48
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And you know you do take a lot of things for granted when you're an experienced person when it comes to participating in ensembles. All you guys know how to walk into a rehearsal and get yourself ready to go. You know how to do that.
00:53:06
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okay These kids, they don't know how to do that. They don't know that the flutes are going to sit up front. They don't know that the drums are going to be in the back because they've never been in a band rehearsal in their lives. um They don't know that the music stands go up and down. I mean, it's all kinds of things like that. So it was it was just wonderful today. And then the principal stopped in.
00:53:31
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And to find a student that he needed to give something to, and he complimented the kids. He goes, oh, you guys sound great. I said, wait, wait, wait, wait. I said, stop. And I said right there, you know so the principal can hear it, all the kids can hear it. I said,
00:53:49
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to the principal, you've got to know these kids, so many of them are in their very first band rehearsal ever and they are doing an absolutely amazing job. They are just jumping right in and they're doing exactly what we need them to do. And it was one of the best first band rehearsals I have had ever in like over 15 years of teaching elementary band. So it was really cool.
00:54:15
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Yay. yeah that's awesome i know and you know I still looked out and I still saw kids that you know maybe were looking at the wrong line of music or you know forgot where their fingers are supposed to go on the keys and all this sort of stuff, but it didn't matter because they were all trying their best and they were all focused and they were all really engaged with what we were doing and you know really doing exactly what we needed them to do so yeah so there it is there's the foundation you know you can't you can't have the the fun fancy stuff without you know the basics happening first
00:54:55
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That's so cool. It's kind of funny because like as music teachers, I think so many people want to teach like at the higher level or whatever, what you might consider like a more flashy thing to teach. But all the time when you ask a student, like who their most impactful educators were, you hear about like some of the very first educators that they had, like the people that did teach them that, you know, the drums are supposed to stand in the back, like stuff you take for granted.
00:55:25
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someone had to actually teach it. It's really cool to hear that it's going well for you and that your students are they're getting the right experience and they're learning the right stuff. So also thank you for your service because I know day in and day out that those kids those kids they uh They make some very interesting sounds from those instruments. They do. and you know i've had to I will tell you this to say, you mentioned that, Jack. I have unfortunately had to talk to other adults in my building about not making comments about that.
00:56:01
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And i've I've run into that at least maybe three times in my career. Oh my gosh. Just twice this year alone. And one person in particular I did speak to then and I said, you need to understand that this is just what we do and this is how we learn.
00:56:24
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And please don't make comments about, you know, what the sounds that you hear my students making because it's it's not helpful. Yeah. out of this Yeah. Yeah. I mean, yeah, we make we make weird sounds and those weird sounds are going to turn into really beautiful sounds. And I, you know, I've had people make comments to me such as I'm really glad I'm not a music teacher because then I don't have to listen to the kids play badly all the time.
00:56:54
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Oh my God. See, this is what comes out and I was saying, you know what? I'm going to add that I can fix these sounds, but you can't fix your face. Yeah. I was saying. You know, I actually, I even correct students if they use the word noise at all. I say, no, no, no. This is, you know, well, my instrument doesn't make that noise. I said, that's right. Your instrument doesn't make that noise. I said, because instruments don't make noise, they make music. And I just, you know,
00:57:24
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I gotta sing it right there. But you know, I know that they have parents at home that some of them have parents at home that don't want to listen to their sounds. And, you know, it's it's hard. So you just got to support them every step of the way. So, Stephen, you got to do your gush and go make the rest of us stop talking. No, I like to just sit and not talk and let you guys keep on rambling. And we'll get there when we get there. But my gush and go, I want to know, like, ah Oh, well, I guess I had more of a, what are we doing? My gush and go, I'm probably very happy about ah United and looking towards ah Bush this upcoming summer. I'll be back teaching drum corps at the Bushwhackers, teaching the bass line there, which will be great. Oh, I'm a Bush alum. Oh, come be a Bush member. Nothing's stopping you. I guess.
00:58:19
Speaker
but yeah She said no. ah nothing I said, yeah, I guess nothing is stopping me. I'll be back teaching Bush. That'll be fun. I'm really excited about that. I think UP base is off to a great start, even better probably than last year was. So that that's just really cool for me. Like being a young educator, as we've talked about, I finally kind of have the chance to like,
00:58:44
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Establish something at like ah the world-class level and build it year every year so this is my first chance to like build upon what I established last year, and I think that we're Doing great where we're picking up right where we left off but with younger kids and months ahead of time so i'm excited to see where that goes and i do wanna rap with a quick what are we doing my what are we doing was gonna be a i wanna know what are we doing in between on samples during dc i live streams this year. I feel like there are certain podcasts out there on the internet that do a good job creating a content for the marching arts that could be.
00:59:29
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Very well utilized in that sort of space. And I just want to ask, you know, what are we doing with that time? There's like about five to 10 minutes between ensembles that you're going to need some idiot to babble on for a couple of minutes in between, you know. so I also would volunteer to tap dance.
00:59:50
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we've got more than enough talent. and ah Clearly, we've got a lot of ideas for what we can do with those five to 10 minutes. Ricardo, we should record your tap dance and then have that as like one of the outro like bits, like just randomly sprinkle it in there. Conically speaking, yes, I am a classically trained dancer, but I'm terrible at taps, so it would be entertainment just to watch me. Much like a bass drum, it's also visual.
01:00:18
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but but Yeah, exactly. she and hey It's called gush and go, not gush and stay. Let's go. All right, well, thank you for a great rehearsal this week. Thank you, everyone, for a great season. Thank you to all our hosts. Thank you to our other guest clinicians throughout the season. Everyone was very amazing throughout all the episodes. ah Thank you for everyone on the call tonight, Jack, Trish, Christine, and Ricardo, and Jeremy as well. ah Couldn't do it without Jeremy.
01:00:52
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That's always been the case. So we've got some exciting new things planned when we launch season three. It'll be happening very soon. One more thing. Don't forget we've got our YouTube channel now where you can see all of our lovely faces, our reactions to the things we talk about as well. ah Go ahead and subscribe. You don't want to miss those visuals. They are not to be missed.
01:01:15
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01:01:46
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