10. Relating Between the Roles: From Classroom to Boardroom | Norman Tran
Ever felt trapped by labels or expectations that just don’t sit right? Join us for a deeply personal and enlightening discussion with Norman Tran, founder of Relating Between the Lines. He shares his transition from product design to EQ education, with an unwavering desire to make essential communication skills accessible to all.
Our conversation takes a raw and honest turn as Norman peels back the layers of his challenging journey. From grueling co-founder transitions to the emotional labor of stepping down as CEO, hear about his struggle to shed the expectations tied to his CEO title, a battle that was not just professional but also a deeply personal one.
Finally, we explore how Norman managed to navigate the waters of resistance, both internal and external, to find a resolution that brought him more peace and fulfillment. We delve into the significance of emotional labor, the importance of acknowledging it, and the art of commitment to a larger mission. Through all of this, Norman reminds us that success isn’t about titles or roles, but about aligning with our true selves. This thought-provoking conversation promises to inspire introspection and growth.
(0:00:01) - Relating Between the Lines Journey - From product design to education, teaching EQ and soft skills through an experiential program.
(0:09:44) - Navigating Co-Founder Roles and Transitions - Norman’s journey of co-founding a business, overcoming emotional resistance, and shedding beliefs.
(0:15:43) - The Struggle With CEO Identity - facing hard beliefs, let go of identity, and overcame insecurities to find his path.
(0:24:18) - Overcoming Resistance and Finding Happiness - Resolving external resistance to reach a mutually beneficial outcome.
(0:30:17) - Acknowledge Pain, Commitment in Partnership - Discussing emotional labor, mission/vision, and finding solutions together.
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👋 Connect with Norman
- Twitter: @norman_tran
- NormanTran.com
