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Speaker: Tonight's
Speaker: story.
Speaker: Tonight's story...
Speaker: You know, I've been...
Speaker: I've been trying to do this story for a very long time since basically...
Speaker: Since I...
Speaker: our first season.
Speaker: you know our first season we did episode
Speaker: called the uh jack the ripper and the uh
Speaker: the murders at white uh
Speaker: at White Castle.
Speaker: If you guys want to.
Speaker: What?
Speaker: Listen to season one.
Speaker: We talk about him.
Speaker: and
Speaker: We are going to...
Speaker: sort of
Speaker: Tie in.
Speaker: to the legend
Speaker: and
Speaker: we are sort of going to reveal
Speaker: Who?
Speaker: Oh.
Speaker: Person Behind Jack the Ripper
Speaker: was.
Speaker: And...
Speaker: this person
Speaker: It's um...
Speaker: weird things and some extremely
Speaker: Oh.
Speaker: downright murderous.
Speaker: So...
Speaker: you know if uh you have one loved ones uh
Speaker: you know
Speaker: listening that are sensitive.
Speaker: you know this may not be
Speaker: the story for you, but...
Speaker: Um...
Speaker: You know, if you're not sensitive, then
Speaker: Kick back and relax.
Speaker: is...
Speaker: This person...
Speaker: As...
Speaker: This person, his name was Herman Webster Mudgett.
Speaker: He was born on May 16th.
Speaker: 1861
Speaker: He also was better known.
Speaker: as Dr. Henry Howard Holmes.
Speaker: or H .H. Holmes.
Speaker: um
Speaker: he pretty much
Speaker: He was fascinated with...
Speaker: Sherlock Holmes
Speaker: uh herman mudgett was
Speaker: And he thought that...
Speaker: He could be as clever as Sherlock Holmes.
Speaker: Oops.
Speaker: You know, Sherlock Holmes, a legend.
Speaker: created by Sir Cullen Doyle.
Speaker: And he thought he could, uh...
Speaker: Be just like him.
Speaker: So he changed his name to Howard Holmes.
Speaker: As, you know, take the last name like Sherlock Holmes.
Speaker: But he calls himself HH Holmes.
Speaker: He was American con artist.
Speaker: And he was a sailor.
Speaker: Cure
Speaker: He was active between 1891 and 1894.
Speaker: And he was executed.
Speaker: in 1896.
Speaker: Home Settle
Speaker: engaged in lengthy criminal
Speaker: A career.
Speaker: They included insurance fraud,
Speaker: forgery
Speaker: Swindling.
Speaker: three or four
Speaker: Uh...
Speaker: It was a big mismarriages.
Speaker: It's also a horse theft.
Speaker: A thief?
Speaker: and murderer
Speaker: best known as the beasts of chicago
Speaker: The...
Speaker: or The Devil in the White City.
Speaker: or the torture doctor.
Speaker: His most notorious crimes took place in Chicago around the time
Speaker: the world's
Speaker: A Colombian ex -
Speaker: Err.
Speaker: Expos...
Speaker: Expo.
Speaker: in 1893
Speaker: Holmes was convicted.
Speaker: sentenced to death for the murder of Benjamin
Speaker: Pretzel
Speaker: his accomplice in several of his cons
Speaker: However, Holmes...
Speaker: confessed to 27 murders.
Speaker: including those.
Speaker: Some people who are.
Speaker: were...
Speaker: Uh...
Speaker: verbally still alive.
Speaker: It was believed that he also killed three of the...
Speaker: Priscilla's
Speaker: As well as three.
Speaker: mistresses the child of one of mistresses
Speaker: and the sister of the other
Speaker: Almost was hanged.
Speaker: on may 7th 1896
Speaker: Much of the lore.
Speaker: attached to homes.
Speaker: occurred
Speaker: Also a herb.
Speaker: to the
Speaker: place known as the murder castle
Speaker: a three -story building then you can
Speaker: consumed
Speaker: RKR
Speaker: They, um...
Speaker: Commissioned
Speaker: on west
Speaker: 63rd Street in Chicago, Illinois.
Speaker: Details about the building.
Speaker: along with many of his alleged crimes.
Speaker: were considered
Speaker: accelerated or fabricated
Speaker: Fur.
Speaker: Um.
Speaker: S -Sent -
Speaker: Sinterlu -
Speaker: Logic.
Speaker: tabloid pieces.
Speaker: with some accounts
Speaker: In -er, in -er
Speaker: estimating his body count to be as high as
Speaker: 133.
Speaker: or even 200.
Speaker: many of those
Speaker: occurrences have
Speaker: pursued due to
Speaker: combination of ineffective police investigations
Speaker: or hyperbolic.
Speaker: Yellow Journalism
Speaker: of the period
Speaker: which are often called as historical records.
Speaker: Holmes gave various
Speaker: conscientious accounts of his life.
Speaker: initially claiming
Speaker: innocence and later he was he was
Speaker: He was possessed by Satan.
Speaker: prosperity
Speaker: Uh, it's...
Speaker: Puh.
Speaker: But apparently for Lane.
Speaker: was made very difficult for researchers.
Speaker: to ascertain the truth
Speaker: on it.
Speaker: on the basis of his statements.
Speaker: For example,
Speaker: He claimed that Dr. Robert
Speaker: a laycock.
Speaker: A fellow medical school classmate
Speaker: was one of the first murder victims.
Speaker: and they killed him
Speaker: 1886
Speaker: for insurance money.
Speaker: However, Lee Cog.
Speaker: died on October 5, 18...
Speaker: 18A9
Speaker: Watford, Ontario, Canada. Since the 1990s,
Speaker: Holmes has often been described as a serial killer.
Speaker: In his book about homes,
Speaker: author Adam Sizzler.
Speaker: writes just killing several people wasn't
Speaker: necessary enough for
Speaker: most definitions for a serial killer.
Speaker: most often
Speaker: has been a series of similar crimes
Speaker: committed over a period of time
Speaker: Usually more.
Speaker: to satisfy the
Speaker: psychological urge and the killer's part
Speaker: Any more?
Speaker: political motives
Speaker: And he adds,
Speaker: murders
Speaker: we can connect the homes to generally
Speaker: and a clear motive.
Speaker: Someone knew too much or was getting his way.
Speaker: and he can be trusted.
Speaker: The murders weren't simply for love or for bloodshed.
Speaker: but necessary part of.
Speaker: furthering his swindling
Speaker: Opinion
Speaker: M.
Speaker: protecting his lifestyle.
Speaker: Who was born?
Speaker: May 16, 1861.
Speaker: And Glemerton...
Speaker: New Hampshire
Speaker: The third child of LeRae Horton Mudgett
Speaker: And...
Speaker: See you a day.
Speaker: Page.
Speaker: Price.
Speaker: With whom?
Speaker: Were.
Speaker: in
Speaker: indicted from
Speaker: are incited from the first english settlers
Speaker: in the area
Speaker: He had two older siblings.
Speaker: Ellen
Speaker: and Arthur.
Speaker: And whatnot.
Speaker: younger brother Henry.
Speaker: as he as an adolescence.
Speaker: As a...
Speaker: and a lesson.
Speaker: Holmes.
Speaker: Attended Phelps.
Speaker: Acceler Academy.
Speaker: before graduating high school with honors.
Speaker: Hey.
Speaker: Jill Menton Academy when he was 16.
Speaker: Holmes parents were both
Speaker: a devout Methodist.
Speaker: His father was from a farming family.
Speaker: And then.
Speaker: Times he worked as a farmer, trader, and house painter.
Speaker: He's also reportedly a heavy drinker.
Speaker: was cruelly
Speaker: or currently be his children.
Speaker: Bums are also face bullying it.
Speaker: by classmates
Speaker: to the Elston Academic.
Speaker: capability.
Speaker: Basically,
Speaker: You know, mostly what everyone bullies about is people being nerds. You know, there's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker: I understand being bullied by that.
Speaker: In one incident, he was forced
Speaker: to stand in front of the
Speaker: of a human skeleton
Speaker: and
Speaker: and put the skeleton's hands
Speaker: on a space
Speaker: to effort to frighten him
Speaker: And er...
Speaker: initially terrified holmes later discovered
Speaker: Acceptance.
Speaker: to be
Speaker: intriguing and claimed that it helped him
Speaker: overcomers worries.
Speaker: Holmes.
Speaker: a subsequently developed obsession
Speaker: with death.
Speaker: As a result of an encounter.
Speaker: And begin.
Speaker: Dissecting animals.
Speaker: In 1879,
Speaker: Holmes enrolled in
Speaker: the University of Vermont.
Speaker: For one year in 1882,
Speaker: He transferred to the University of Michigan's Department of Medicine and Surgery.
Speaker: Despite his mediocre academic...
Speaker: performance
Speaker: Holmes graduated in...
Speaker: June 1884
Speaker: Fallen Road, he worked as a...
Speaker: Atomany Lab Un -
Speaker: worked in the end.
Speaker: autonomy lab under professor william jones
Speaker: Inner men.
Speaker: The chief
Speaker: N -N
Speaker: autonomy instructor
Speaker: They were said to have been.
Speaker: Engage in...
Speaker: uh,
Speaker: factoring
Speaker: A facility.
Speaker: Grieve robbery and basic play medical.
Speaker: uh... cadavers
Speaker: Holmes had...
Speaker: appearance and appeared
Speaker: I have...
Speaker: Appearance in New York
Speaker: Hampshire under
Speaker: Norum Wright.
Speaker: A known...
Speaker: advocate a human
Speaker: Alright.
Speaker: Distinction
Speaker: Years later when Holmes
Speaker: was suspended
Speaker: was suspected of murder.
Speaker: It claimed to be nothing.
Speaker: but the insurance
Speaker: For our protester.
Speaker: and admitted to using the cadavers to default life insurance policies.
Speaker: several times in college and around this time
Speaker: Um...
Speaker: you know it
Speaker: And...
Speaker: End up going to.
Speaker: Going to England.
Speaker: to further his
Speaker: Om.
Speaker: You know his medical and
Speaker: or
Speaker: you know
Speaker: what would be a perfect place is if you're going to
Speaker: london
Speaker: Go to the Red Lake District and...
Speaker: you know, finding the, uh,
Speaker: hookers, prostitutes and what have you.
Speaker: You know, they have no families or whatever.
Speaker: We started to pretty much...
Speaker: You know...
Speaker: Learn his
Speaker: learning and to
Speaker: Honest crafted.
Speaker: And...
Speaker: He did that because...
Speaker: That's where Kazeev...
Speaker: crumply ended
Speaker: when he uh
Speaker: And I'm coming back to United States.
Speaker: Holmes moved to Chicago in 1886 in August.
Speaker: Which then he began using...
Speaker: Uh...
Speaker: All the...
Speaker: the surname
Speaker: H .H. Holmes
Speaker: soon after his rival
Speaker: He comes across the drugstore.
Speaker: at northwest corner of southwest
Speaker: South Wallace Avenue
Speaker: West 63rd Street in the Inglewood section of Chicago.
Speaker: drugstore's owner
Speaker: Lizbeth
Speaker: Uh, Holton.
Speaker: Give Holmes a job.
Speaker: April.
Speaker: proved to be a hardworking employee.
Speaker: mentioning buying the store.
Speaker: contrary to several accounts.
Speaker: Holmes did not kill.
Speaker: Dr. E .S. Houlton
Speaker: Homes purchased an empty lot across the street.
Speaker: where construction began.
Speaker: In 1887. And it's two story.
Speaker: Mixed use building.
Speaker: with apartments on the second
Speaker: Floor
Speaker: and retail space.
Speaker: including the new drugstore on the 1st.
Speaker: When Holmes...
Speaker: The.
Speaker: uh decided pay the
Speaker: Architects.
Speaker: for the steel company.
Speaker: Athena Athena iron and steel
Speaker: They took him to court in 1888.
Speaker: In 1892.
Speaker: He had a third -floor tone.
Speaker: Besters.
Speaker: that the suppliers he had tended to use
Speaker: It was a hotel during...
Speaker: The upcoming world.
Speaker: colombian expo
Speaker: Con - er concte -
Speaker: uh con
Speaker: Put Tenere accounts.
Speaker: reports that
Speaker: Holmes built the hotel to lure tourists.
Speaker: Busy next.
Speaker: Expedition.
Speaker: in order to kill them and sell their skeletons
Speaker: to nearby medical schools.
Speaker: although he did have a history of selling
Speaker: stolen cadavers
Speaker: into medicine
Speaker: medical schools.
Speaker: Holmes had acquired these
Speaker: wears through
Speaker: grave robbing other than murder.
Speaker: Otherwise, there was no evidence that Holmes ever murdered.
Speaker: exposition goers on the premises
Speaker: The old press labeled
Speaker: Don't need it.
Speaker: building as Holmes Murder Castle.
Speaker: claiming the structure.
Speaker: Contains secret torture chambers
Speaker: Trap doors.
Speaker: Gas chambers.
Speaker: and basement
Speaker: Crematoriums.
Speaker: None of these...
Speaker: saturated claims are true.
Speaker: Other accounts stated that the hotel was made up.
Speaker: of hundred rooms that laid out like a maze
Speaker: for doors.
Speaker: opening into brick walls.
Speaker: windowless rooms and
Speaker: dead -end staircases.
Speaker: There
Speaker: In reality, the third floor hotel was...
Speaker: model a size largely
Speaker: unremarkable and
Speaker: Thank you.
Speaker: On.
Speaker: completed due to Holmes
Speaker: This...
Speaker: uh this
Speaker: disruptors
Speaker: with the builders it did contain some of the hidden rooms but they were used for
Speaker: and furniture homes.
Speaker: brought a but bought on credit
Speaker: did not intend to pay for.
Speaker: Moms did not kill and...
Speaker: alleged.
Speaker: Holmes did not kill an alleged Castle victim.
Speaker: Miss Kate.
Speaker: A derky.
Speaker: who turned out
Speaker: to be much alive.
Speaker: In his confession, Holmes stated that
Speaker: is an unusual method of killing.
Speaker: was this
Speaker: suffocate
Speaker: his victims use their own
Speaker: Various means, including overdose of McCloroform,
Speaker: overexposure to lighting gas fumes.
Speaker: and trapping them in Alice's vaults.
Speaker: Holmes also claimed to have used starvation.
Speaker: and to have burnt
Speaker: victims alive in his castle.
Speaker: Almost.
Speaker: hotel was gulped in the fire and started by unknown arsonist shortly after his arrest
Speaker: but largely
Speaker: Re -er -
Speaker: largely rebuilt and uses post office today
Speaker: or post office until
Speaker: 1838
Speaker: size enormous
Speaker: a murder castle, homes also known.
Speaker: owned a one -story factory which claimed
Speaker: was used for a glass bending.
Speaker: It's unclear that the factory...
Speaker: furnace was ever used.
Speaker: for this purpose.
Speaker: It's a
Speaker: is spectrally they've been using
Speaker: destroy incriminating evidence in his crimes.
Speaker: home's mistress
Speaker: 31 year old
Speaker: Uh...
Speaker: Julia Smythe.
Speaker: was the wife of Dr. Louis Connor.
Speaker: He also moved into his building and began to work in.
Speaker: in its pharmacy.
Speaker: pharmacy's drilling counter
Speaker: After Connor found out
Speaker: Smith's Affair
Speaker: with Holmes.
Speaker: Quit his job and moved away.
Speaker: leaving Smith and their five -year -old daughter Pearl Connor behind.
Speaker: Smith gained custody apparel and remained at the hotel.
Speaker: Tending a relationship for homes.
Speaker: Julia and Pearl both
Speaker: disappeared on Christmas Eve in 1891.
Speaker: Holmes definitely claimed that.
Speaker: Julie had left.
Speaker: and specterly
Speaker: to visit her dying sister.
Speaker: But then...
Speaker: changed his story and said that she had
Speaker: that her former husband
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: Oh
Speaker: Ultimately, Holmes later...
Speaker: claim that Julia had actually died during an abortion.
Speaker: Despite his medical background, Holmes was likely to experience...
Speaker: on carrying out is abortions.
Speaker: or more true
Speaker: uh morally
Speaker: from each procedure was high at the time
Speaker: Holmes then claimed that he had
Speaker: Poison
Speaker: Pearl?
Speaker: Lucky the high.
Speaker: the circumstances of her mother's death
Speaker: a partial skeleton
Speaker: possibly a child's
Speaker: around pearl's age was found
Speaker: when excavating the home seller
Speaker: Pearl's father was the key witness to Holmes' trial.
Speaker: in chicago his other one
Speaker: was 23 year old Emmeline.
Speaker: Sig...
Speaker: Sigand.
Speaker: Begin work in the homes building.
Speaker: on May 1892 and worked with him for six months.
Speaker: Holmes reportedly hired.
Speaker: Sagan as a secretary.
Speaker: Too hard.
Speaker: connection to a doctor
Speaker: who peddled a vaccine.
Speaker: that allegedly occurred
Speaker: A cause.
Speaker: Who?
Speaker: Who saw?
Speaker: Or...
Speaker: Second.
Speaker: in the weeks before her disappearance noted that she appeared to have
Speaker: lost interest in homes
Speaker: and their relationship
Speaker: See you again.
Speaker: was last seen in
Speaker: December 1892
Speaker: Her parents were informed that she had
Speaker: left a married man named robert phillips
Speaker: authorities.
Speaker: hypothesized as she
Speaker: Gotten pregnant by homes, possibly.
Speaker: being a victim of another failed abortion that holmes
Speaker: try to cover up
Speaker: Or empty luggage trunk.
Speaker: was sent back to her mother
Speaker: In Anderson, Indiana, her skeleton was found by police in the home.
Speaker: Chicago.
Speaker: This year.
Speaker: with the hope of h
Speaker: uh with mg chapel
Speaker: Who admitted it.
Speaker: Having...
Speaker: Uh...
Speaker: Err!
Speaker: Er, art?
Speaker: Articulated.
Speaker: Three skeletons.
Speaker: H .H. Holmes. In early 1893, a 24 -year -old
Speaker: one -time actress
Speaker: Walima.
Speaker: Willa Lima Mini
Speaker: Williams.
Speaker: Move to Chicago.
Speaker: Our homes claim to have
Speaker: Met her.
Speaker: Um...
Speaker: and employment uh and employment office
Speaker: believed to be actually met her in Boston several years earlier.
Speaker: He wasn't going to
Speaker: Bayeret.
Speaker: Right. His.
Speaker: Other alias.
Speaker: gordon holmes offered her a job in the hotel as a personal
Speaker: stenographer
Speaker: and she accepted
Speaker: Holmes pursued Williams to transfer the deed to her property in Fort Worth, Texas.
Speaker: to a man.
Speaker: Name.
Speaker: Alexander Bond.
Speaker: which was another alias of the Holmes.
Speaker: And.
Speaker: April 1893
Speaker: Williams transferred the deed.
Speaker: with Holmes.
Speaker: serving as an ornery.
Speaker: Holmes later signed the deed over to Brazil.
Speaker: given the
Speaker: alias
Speaker: Vincent T. Lehman.
Speaker: in the following
Speaker: Month.
Speaker: Holmes and Williams.
Speaker: Uh...
Speaker: presented themselves as husband and wife.
Speaker: Rent an apartment in Chicago's Lincoln Park.
Speaker: Noni um
Speaker: Minis.
Speaker: younger sister
Speaker: 18 -year -old Anna Nene.
Speaker: Williams.
Speaker: came to visit on July 5th, 1893.
Speaker: She wrote to her aunt.
Speaker: She
Speaker: Player 2.
Speaker: the company brother harry
Speaker: to
Speaker: Alright.
Speaker: Europe.
Speaker: In it.
Speaker: she has signed the off the message
Speaker: Brother Harry
Speaker: Holmes.
Speaker: Also says that you need.
Speaker: never trouble anymore about me
Speaker: Uh...
Speaker: financially or otherwise in her sister
Speaker: or see it to me.
Speaker: I hope the other... I hope you're...
Speaker: Hard days are over
Speaker: Uh, afterward.
Speaker: neither minnie or nanny
Speaker: were ever seen alive at homes
Speaker: Use Minnie's name.
Speaker: in the future scans. Oh.
Speaker: This guy never stops.
Speaker: 68 -year -old creator.
Speaker: of homes.
Speaker: named John Rethro died of
Speaker: Epoxy.
Speaker: And at April 17, 1891, in the Castle Drugstore,
Speaker: Uh...
Speaker: Brittle.
Speaker: Okay.
Speaker: claps and died shortly after holmes
Speaker: Uh...
Speaker: poured a black liquid down his throat.
Speaker: occurring to an illness
Speaker: Foul play was not suspected.
Speaker: 1885
Speaker: Was he?
Speaker: What does he put it as?
Speaker: oh castor oil or something
Speaker: I'd be a little suspicious myself.
Speaker: is determined that
Speaker: Earl's life was ensured that Holmes
Speaker: have profited from his death.
Speaker: In 1891, Emmy Van Tissel...
Speaker: This appeared after working at Holmes Drugstore.
Speaker: Vamos...
Speaker: spoke her of her
Speaker: This is confession.
Speaker: In 1887, Tesla's name was cited in a list of
Speaker: Suspective victims of Tessa's mother believed that she was...
Speaker: Russell Victor.
Speaker: Dr. Ressler.
Speaker: was another victim.
Speaker: He was in the office at the castle, went missing in 1882.
Speaker: Homes.
Speaker: mentioned killing rustler in his confession
Speaker: Oh.
Speaker: Kitty Kelly.
Speaker: A stenographer for Holmes went missing 1880.
Speaker: Two.
Speaker: John Davis of Greensville, Pennsylvania.
Speaker: When visit.
Speaker: the 1893 World's Fair.
Speaker: And just vanished.
Speaker: In 1820.
Speaker: is declared legally dead.
Speaker: Hmm.
Speaker: Gee, I wonder why.
Speaker: Harry Walker brings Bergeniano and missing in November 1893.
Speaker: He was alleged to have insured his life.
Speaker: over to Holmes for $20 ,000.
Speaker: and wrote to his friends that he was working for Homestead Chicago.
Speaker: well gee i wonder what happened to him after that
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Holmes claimed the $20 ,000.
Speaker: I'm some pretzel too.
Speaker: George.
Speaker: Thomas.
Speaker: to a missus swamp
Speaker: I'm
Speaker: Pumagi River in June 1894 and killed him.
Speaker: and disposes body
Speaker: let's confess to the murderer to his second wife
Speaker: Offered coal.
Speaker: of Baltimore.
Speaker: disappeared after receiving a telegram of Holmes.
Speaker: to come to Chicago in July 8, 1984.
Speaker: in 1894.
Speaker: Burbank's bank book was found.
Speaker: with human hair.
Speaker: and the chimney flew in the castle.
Speaker: Bye.
Speaker: Holmes was alleged to kill two people in Link Country.
Speaker: Illinois is in 1890.
Speaker: The deaths were confirmed in 1919.
Speaker: 23 years after that.
Speaker: Execution.
Speaker: When the remains of the unknown.
Speaker: man and woman found in a farm and it's just
Speaker: He just ain't stopping killing here.
Speaker: Oh.
Speaker: 27 killings
Speaker: which holmes confessed
Speaker: Only eight are confirmed.
Speaker: with one other
Speaker: consider probable
Speaker: Robert Leacock was allegedly murdered by Holmes.
Speaker: But...
Speaker: Um...
Speaker: allegedly he died of natural causes in november 5th
Speaker: In Canada,
Speaker: This claim was disproven.
Speaker: Rogers of Megantown.
Speaker: Morgantown was Virginia.
Speaker: was alleged killed by holmes
Speaker: um he's
Speaker: he supposed victim later found to be alive
Speaker: Paint is proven.
Speaker: Um, Lizzie.
Speaker: a domestic worker the castle restaurant
Speaker: which allegedly smothered
Speaker: the vault because of Holmes believed a janitor
Speaker: Quentin
Speaker: was too interested in her
Speaker: Okay.
Speaker: This claim was unconfirmed.
Speaker: Sorry.
Speaker: It's kind of hard to see if it is or isn't.
Speaker: It hasn't been.
Speaker: Firm.
Speaker: rogers the banker from
Speaker: North Wisconsin was allegedly murdered.
Speaker: And by Holmes in 1891 helped with the.
Speaker: an unnamed accomplice
Speaker: no evidence supported this claim
Speaker: but there's no disappearance of wealthy men.
Speaker: in north
Speaker: Wisconsin towns claim highly
Speaker: suspect.
Speaker: julia connor downboard child and pearl connor
Speaker: were moored by homes of christmas
Speaker: Murder is confirmed.
Speaker: and this goes on and on and on
Speaker: and
Speaker: You know, he ended up killing Benjamin.
Speaker: a britzel
Speaker: Um...
Speaker: criminal past.
Speaker: Oh, Zibarine.
Speaker: Bye.
Speaker: Let's see.
Speaker: is a carpenter with a criminal pass to exhibiting
Speaker: It could be
Speaker: We have investigated some...
Speaker: Same building. Homes used pestle.
Speaker: There's a right hand man several...
Speaker: Uh...
Speaker: criminal schemes.
Speaker: so we could turn you later
Speaker: Scribe.
Speaker: and so as homestead
Speaker: a creature.
Speaker: with insurance companies passing
Speaker: Rescuing for arson.
Speaker: homes left chicago
Speaker: And...
Speaker: Alright.
Speaker: appeared in fort worth
Speaker: We had...
Speaker: appear in a property in Williams sisters
Speaker: modern -day convenience street and second street
Speaker: or once attempted
Speaker: to build a
Speaker: incomplete structure without pain is
Speaker: So players are...
Speaker: contractors.
Speaker: Gee, I don't wonder where that one's at.
Speaker: That's hung a little wide.
Speaker: Old donut.
Speaker: The one.
Speaker: wants everything you don't want to pay it
Speaker: Let's see, in July 1894,
Speaker: Holmes was arrested and briefly jailed.
Speaker: For the first time in the charge of selling mortgaged goods at St. Louis, Missouri.
Speaker: It's probably Bill Dow.
Speaker: While in jail, stuck up.
Speaker: Hey.
Speaker: He struck up a conversation with
Speaker: with a convicted outlaw named
Speaker: Morn.
Speaker: Hedge path.
Speaker: who was serving a 20 -year sentence.
Speaker: Err...
Speaker: concocted a plan to swindle
Speaker: an insurance company out of $10 ,000.
Speaker: by taking out a pulse on himself
Speaker: than faking his death
Speaker: Homes possessor.
Speaker: promised
Speaker: H -Path, a $500 commission.
Speaker: and exchange it.
Speaker: of the name of a warrior could be trusted.
Speaker: Ansoise.
Speaker: directed to...
Speaker: to a young St. Louis attorney named
Speaker: Jeff Ho.
Speaker: Oh Holmes.
Speaker: Scheme was brilliant and great to participate.
Speaker: Nonetheless, Holmes planned to fake his death.
Speaker: And when the insurance company came suspicious,
Speaker: refused to pay homes did not press the claim
Speaker: Instead he...
Speaker: and cocked a similar plan with pretzel
Speaker: Um,
Speaker: Press load.
Speaker: agreed to fix his own death
Speaker: so that his wife could collect $10 ,000 life insurance policy.
Speaker: which was split in the home.
Speaker: Holmes and Ho
Speaker: the scheme which was to take place in Philadelphia.
Speaker: I called for Pretzel to set him up with an...
Speaker: inventor under the name of Bea Perry.
Speaker: Thank you.
Speaker: in
Speaker: then we killed a
Speaker: And then...
Speaker: be killed in
Speaker: disfigured in lab explosion.
Speaker: Holmes was the fine accomplice.
Speaker: the cadaver
Speaker: play the role of pretzel.
Speaker: Instead,
Speaker: Holmes kill pretzel.
Speaker: September 4, 1894, by knocking him unconscious.
Speaker: with chloroform.
Speaker: setting his body on fire with
Speaker: Ramazine.
Speaker: Which is...
Speaker: Oh.
Speaker: his confession
Speaker: Holmes implied that Pretzel was still alive after he used chloroform on him.
Speaker: Before he sat on fire
Speaker: However, forensic evidence presented...
Speaker: Holmes' later trials show chloroform had been administered.
Speaker: After.
Speaker: president's death in fact the insurance company
Speaker: wasn't where
Speaker: presumably the stage of suicide.
Speaker: Extant Holmes would be charged with murder. Holmes collected the insurance payout by assist the genuine pretzel corpse.
Speaker: Moms then manipulated
Speaker: Pretzels.
Speaker: uninspected wave
Speaker: carrie ellis canning
Speaker: to loan
Speaker: Three of her ch...
Speaker: five children
Speaker: to be placed in as custody.
Speaker: The three children were placed in Underholm's care.
Speaker: And 13 -year -old Alice Pretzel, 9 -year -old Nellie Pretzel.
Speaker: and seven -year -old Howard Robert Pretzel
Speaker: Um...
Speaker: homes and the three pretzel children
Speaker: traveled throughout the
Speaker: northeastern United States into Canada.
Speaker: It's super
Speaker: There's a...
Speaker: simultaneously
Speaker: escorted carry along the
Speaker: parallel route
Speaker: While using the...
Speaker: various aliases and line of carry
Speaker: Get our, connect our.
Speaker: concerning her
Speaker: our husband's death by claiming pretzel
Speaker: was hiding in London.
Speaker: as well as lying to her about the true whereabouts for three missing children.
Speaker: Troy.
Speaker: just before entering canada are were
Speaker: They were only... They were...
Speaker: separated
Speaker: at only a few blocks.
Speaker: Bye.
Speaker: And even more.
Speaker: Er...
Speaker: More courageous move.
Speaker: those was staying at another location with his current wife
Speaker: has
Speaker: was unaware with this whole affair
Speaker: Holmes later confessed to murdering Alice and Natalie.
Speaker: on October 25, 1884 by forcing them
Speaker: into a large trunk.
Speaker: and walked in with him inside.
Speaker: He drilled a whole lid in the trunk.
Speaker: and put one in the hose.
Speaker: through the hole.
Speaker: attaching the other end to a gas line.
Speaker: and fix it.
Speaker: The girls.
Speaker: Holmes...
Speaker: bury their new bodies in the cellar.
Speaker: A rental house.
Speaker: At 16...
Speaker: uh saint vincent street in toronto
Speaker: Frank Greer has a
Speaker: Philadelphia Police Department
Speaker: SECTO
Speaker: Assigned to investigate the home zone.
Speaker: I found, I found a...
Speaker: beneath the three feet.
Speaker: a bone of form, a human being.
Speaker: He discovered that...
Speaker: there were the girls
Speaker: And um...
Speaker: He was captured and...
Speaker: And it was executed.
Speaker: and there's also
Speaker: On the...
Speaker: Where the murder house was.
Speaker: at 63rd and Wallace Streets in Inglewood.
Speaker: It was the post office.
Speaker: was modest somewhere in there
Speaker: Y 'all break blood in.
Speaker: when many built during the year.
Speaker: New ideal era under president.
Speaker: of Franklin Delano Roosevelt, the Chicago Trends yet.
Speaker: Authority Green Lane.
Speaker: Runs.
Speaker: available a trestle behind the post office.
Speaker: Um...
Speaker: Concrete freight train.
Speaker: runs through it
Speaker: just the east.
Speaker: in eagles
Speaker: carbon the stones hanging in the front doors the post office
Speaker: I'll sign a three -year...
Speaker: uh
Speaker: I'll bring those up one...
Speaker: Um...
Speaker: And once black, now a fade of blue.
Speaker: a circle next to the doors
Speaker: Um, you know, where the, where the, um.
Speaker: Mainly where they stood there, you know, where the...
Speaker: Murder House.
Speaker: Oh, stud.
Speaker: This is the post office.
Speaker: and they said that
Speaker: There's some ghosts in there.
Speaker: Where in the meal room and everything, they hear footsteps and...
Speaker: Oh.
Speaker: Cries and...
Speaker: And.
Speaker: you know other voices and um
Speaker: you also could take the tours around them
Speaker: Same.
Speaker: same spot
Speaker: and around the campus.
Speaker: And there's also...
Speaker: Pictures.
Speaker: of the murder house.
Speaker: of
Speaker: what his diagrams look like and stuff
Speaker: That's it.
Speaker: and
Speaker: If you wanna...
Speaker: You want to see that? It's online.
Speaker: But there you go
Speaker: Um...
Speaker: Jack the Ripper is now...
Speaker: HH Holmes.
Speaker: And...
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