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TromBonus - 57 - Reggae Rock Primer
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Things are about to get irie as CP/SC tackles the low energy vibes of Reggae Rock! Rob and Joey do a quick pick it up on bicycles before going through the mainstream rock meets reggae scene from its creation in the early 80s to the wide spanning influence of Sublime to its surprisingly vast fanbase in the modern era. All the way they play a game to guess how many streams the songs have on Spotify.
Hosts: Rob and Joey
Engineer: Joey
Editor: Joey
Skassociate Producer: Chris Reeves of Ska Punk International
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Introduction to Reggae Rock and Hosts
00:00:01
Speaker
It's another trombonus episode, it's just Rob engineer joey in a pocket full of dreams as we surf hacky sack and bum on the beach to all the chillest vibes this side of the quad. It's a reggae rock primer on checkered past, the skydcast.
00:00:23
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It's not too long, but it is a song Check the packs when you can't go wrong
00:00:41
Speaker
What up, checkered heads? Welcome to Checkered Past, the SCODcast with Celine and Rob. The show where all roadies lead to sublime with Rome and... Sorry, I just had some pepper. Now it is... Yeah, choo! Explore the history and impact of a different band each episode and hope to bring in new fans along the way. I'm Robyn, this is my co-host with the most toast. Engineer Joey.
00:01:02
Speaker
Metis at you. Yeah, that's what I did. I'm trying not to cough. I just took a sip of pop. A sip of pop? It like went down the wrong tube.
00:01:14
Speaker
So you didn't get to appreciate my incredible joke. I was listening to and processing it. I just wasn't able to comment as I normally do. I think I caught everything though. You know what? I was really proud of Aurodi's lead to Sublime with Rome. I thought that was a good one. That is pretty good. I thought I was like clever. It had layers.
00:01:36
Speaker
Sometimes I have layers, sometimes I don't have layers. You say we have the tops of a hacky sack and then... It was surf, hacky sack and bum on the beach, all the chillest vibes inside of the quad. That baby chuckle, I like that. We've got a... Maybe I'm really leading it in. I think we know what we're talking about today. I don't know if you queued up the song, but did you want to pick it up where we left off? Okay. It's okay, we can include it. This is a cut point.
00:02:02
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Uh, Joey, do you want, I think this might be relevant to what
Mopeds and E-Bikes: A Charming Discussion
00:02:06
Speaker
we're talking about. We are kind of trying to get about outside, but we should talk about bicycles and you, uh, we're talking about, uh, e-bikes and mopeds and whatnot. I thought that was an interesting conversation. We can kind of talk about on pod. Yeah. Um, I, so I own a motorcycle that I purchased a few years ago and I work at a shop that does motorcycles and I just.
00:02:29
Speaker
I don't think I need a motorcycle that goes on the highway. Right? So I have this motorcycle and I was saying to Rob, I was like, you know, I would kind of prefer.
00:02:40
Speaker
just like a moped or something like small like a fifty to ninety cc like a little posty bike kinda whatever moped to just kinda go around the neighborhood or within you know fifteen twenty minutes of my house uh... that i was saying i've been on this internet kick of researching e-bikes cuz nowadays like electronic bicycle yeah nowadays like the moped style e-bikes with like the
00:03:07
Speaker
that tires are like basically what mopeds and stuff were in like the 70s and 80s right and you can't get like in Canada you can't buy like a new moped style motorcycle like or or they're pretty rare they're pretty hard to find and they're really expensive and even if you buy a vintage one that was a weird sound for my mics not to make um even if you buy a vintage one they're like expensive yeah
00:03:35
Speaker
because all motorcycles and stuff are expensive right now. It's still like 2,000, 3,000 bucks. So you can get a pretty solid e-bike for 2,000 or 3,000 bucks. And yeah, I'm interested in them. They're pretty cool. You ever rode an e-bike before? Not...
00:03:51
Speaker
the style that I'm talking about. Right. But I have, we have like- We've done the live scooters and like bikes and stuff, and I've ridden those. And they're good. They're fun. Yeah, they're great. What about those e-bikes that I see sometimes that are almost like little dirt bikes that have like big mufflers kicking off the back?
00:04:10
Speaker
You ever see those? No. Oh, yeah. OK. I haven't seen one with the muffler. They actually make a whole sand. I don't like that. You spew black smoke into the sky. It's pretty wild. Oh, those ones. Yeah, yeah. The gas-powered e-bikes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I guess it's not an e-bike, because it's not electric. But it's like a gas-powered. It's a G-bike. Yeah, like whatever. It's that version of a bike, but with gas. Yeah, I see a lot of those at my work. You know who's a big fan of that? Dr. Dre.
00:04:39
Speaker
Yeah, I bet he rides a G-bike. He rides a G-bike. He's a G, he's got a... He's got a... Any bike that he rides is a G-bike.
00:04:51
Speaker
by virtue of him sitting on the seat. It's a G-bike now. Hey man, how do I make the rules? I purchased a bicycle. Yes. That's also part of this, right? We told the story last, well, recent pod, whenever we recorded it, about our adventures with our U-Hauls. But then,
00:05:10
Speaker
I purchased a bike that same day, wasn't able to pick it up because we were in line for so long. So the bike place that I bought, I bought it from an independent bike place here in Edmonton and they closed restaurant hours, as you put it, Sunday, Monday. And so I had to go pick it up on Tuesday. And what happened this recent Tuesday, Joey, if you recall?
00:05:33
Speaker
What did happen this recent Tuesday? We had a torrential downpour all day. Oh yeah, that's right. It was the only time we've gotten any moisture in months and months and months actually. And it was rainy as all fuck and I still don't have a car so I had to get to work that day and so I picked up my bike and I got rained on as I biked to work and it was miserable. That sucks.
00:05:57
Speaker
Two days later, I rode it again and it was much nicer out and I'm thrilled with my choice. Yeah. I have a upright posture Dutch style bike. A step over? A step over. And she just like, cause you know, I'm going to get old pretty soon, feeling it already. You're on the way. I'm on the way. So I just need something that cruises. Anyway, I'm just, I'm living my bike life. It has a nice rack to put things onto on the back.
00:06:22
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Yeah. So I need to like, you know, get into like saddlebag territory and stuff. So it's going to be fun, but yeah, I'm going to live that bike life. I know Ariane's been a biker for the last like five, six years, like basically since my son was born. And, uh, I'm, I'm ready to get into that world too. Just got to be moving. Got to be
The Evolution and Charm of Reggae Rock
00:06:40
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moving, man. Hell yeah. And so I biked here for record. I don't bike back. Yeah.
00:06:44
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even though it's smoky. That part has been unfortunate. This time last year we'd also talked about how smoky it was. Nothing's changed. I don't think it was quite this early.
00:06:55
Speaker
You think it was later? It might have been later. I believe so. This is May 11th that we're recording this. Yeah, so it's... You know, Armageddon. Fires just burst and out everywhere. Yep. Interior BC, Northern Alberta. Government doing nothing about it. Yeah. Absolutely. Maybe we'll need more fire trucks from other countries to come in and help us. Hey, if we don't do anything about it, then the federal government will have to come and do something about it, right? Eventually, then a state of emergency. We have to make it a state of emergency. Yeah. Why spend our tax money?
00:07:24
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All right. Today we have a fun conversation, Joey. I don't know how like vibed you are for this, but I know, I know you definitely got in the right head space and I appreciate that you did it. Yeah. Oh, and I, I knew that what we were getting into here. So I smoked a fat bowl before we started. We're talking reggae rock today. Here we go. We're talking reggae rock. I thought that was it. So people have been clamoring for us to talk about certain bands that I think. I thought you were going to say reggae rock. No, not specifically. Nobody, nobody's asked for this.
00:07:53
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But they've been asking me for bands that I'm like, that's not a ska band, that's a reggae band, or that's ska adjacent. Maybe we could, and I was like, I don't know if I could do a whole episode about it. I was like, that one band, I don't know, has enough variety or interesting life to talk about it. One we could do, we'll talk about in a second, but I thought it'd be more fun to embed them into this episode and do a primer on.
00:08:19
Speaker
I don't know how better to put this, but like, Ska Punk's sort of red-headed stepsister, which I think is actually the opposite. Ska Punk would be this genre's red stepsister, actually. Yeah, this is probably older. This is, we're talking reggae rock. We're talking reggae rock, we're talking about what's basically
00:08:38
Speaker
You know, the slower version of both genres. You take ska and punk, and you slow them both down. Yeah, you dad rock them a little bit. Yeah, you dad rock the rock side, and you reggae find the ska side, and what you get is something in the middle, which is reggae rock. I'm really...
00:08:57
Speaker
Are you doing kind of a little bit of a chronological sort of? I am not. So I think what's important is that normally when we do these primers, we go chronological order because that's a fun to see progression in a genre. Right. But I think there's something that I learned researching this episode that blew my fucking mind and you're going to understand, you're going to understand pretty early on and we'll, we'll get into the order that we're going to do things, but let's lay the groundwork. Okay.
00:09:24
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So we're going to skip through the seventies, which is when reggae rock really started. You got your lover's rock. You got your like more rockified reggae in the, in Jamaica, you know, the post whalers.
00:09:37
Speaker
Yeah, Joey's already feeling it. It's already feeling. 10cc, the rock bands that do a reggae song every now and then. That happened a lot. Yeah, it happened all the time. It was just weird that that kept happening, especially in the 70s. English bands, man, they were like, we like reggae. Let's do it reggae. Put a pin in that. Put a pin in the English thing, because that's huge to this. But like, we started in Jamaica, in the post-Wailers world, Peter Tosh was dealing with the steel pulse. PW. All those guys. Post-Wailers. Post-Wailers, PW.
00:10:05
Speaker
You know, it was like, it was like two, three, four PW. Yeah, exactly. If people are catching what I'm saying, like, I get it. I said it out loud and I was like, that makes no fucking sense what I just said. Hey, I've been like trying to understand Star Wars timelines that are based on different things for years. I got you. I know what you're talking about. And, uh, and then, you know, so reggae became popular in the UK. Mm-hmm.
00:10:31
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And then all of a sudden you got all the slight crossover hits. And then a bunch of, I hate to say white guys and or mixed race lineup people as well, but you know, a lot of white guys got really into reggae. So what do white guys do when they get really into something and they make their own version of it. And so, you know, it started with some innocuous beginnings and you had the clash, which we talked about in a previous episode, you had
00:10:59
Speaker
whoop whoop, that's the sound of the police. Who we haven't done on Pod yet, but I think we probably will at some point. But I think there's one band that really kicked this off, and it was a mixed race band, but by about 1983 things had kind of shifted in terms of what Reggy Rock became. I think you already know where I'm going with this. So just play number one and we'll kick off the Reggy Rock discussion.
Impact of UB40 on Reggae Rock
00:11:26
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Oh yeah.
00:11:28
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Change the game right like they would already existed for about six seven years before this and they were like touring with Scott playing two-tone bands at this time okay but by 83 like all the two-tone bands had like moved on right got new wave 40 double down on the reggae right and so this is what you get
00:11:52
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just radio radio music just like borderline this is grocery store this grocery store yeah for sure this is a cover yeah from neil diamond right but this the cover has absolutely superseded the original like people will associate this as a ub40 song way more than a neil diamond for sure yeah
00:12:14
Speaker
I didn't play it like a lot of, it's a very repetitive song. The chorus comes in two seconds in and they just repeat it over and over again. It's a perfectly serviceable reggae rock song. And 40 years later, serviceable. But at the time, fucking mind blowing, you know what I mean? People lost their shit over that song. My mom loved that song when I was a kid. I remember that song was,
00:12:44
Speaker
A lot. Yeah, I've heard that song a lot of times it is. It's such an ever-present song It's set the template right like think of a reggae rock song that you know that you are very passionate about Don't tell me it doesn't okay. Don't tell me you're passionate about it or that you've heard recently you listen to 110 seconds ago, right? Maybe 10 minutes ago
00:13:07
Speaker
Don't you can't tell me it doesn't share something in common with you be 40. Oh, yeah. I'll come back to you be 40 Yeah, maybe the clash or maybe the police fucking for sure you be 40 Can't speak to enough and then if you're from England, I'm sure you're like, okay This is like one of the biggest bands of all time is you be 40 right? Yeah, the crossover. This is the they are
00:13:29
Speaker
Like madness is to two-tone like just right we know of them and we know the popular song But we don't have really an understanding of how important they were culturally culturally. Yeah, I Don't think I'm gonna play any more English bands for the rest of this episode Wow, that's how fucking weird that is. That's a regular rock thing
00:13:50
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is such a North American. Turns out there are white guys everywhere. Turns out there's a lot of white guys in the US and Canada more than willing to pick up that torch and run with it. I'm trying not to be dismissive about this. I think I am being pretty dismissive. My relationship with reg A-Rock is that
00:14:13
Speaker
It's fine. Sometimes I'm like, this is pretty fucking sweet. Sometimes, sometimes I'm like, I really enjoy this. Okay. 70% of the time though, I'm like, this is for some of some other people that have no shirt on. So when I hear reggae rock, I think two things. I think, um, somewhere in the realm of like Sublimey 311, like that, right?
00:14:43
Speaker
where there's some funk involved, clutch. People who listen to it might be into clutch, I want to say. Yeah. I know. But like the same, the same dudes with beards are listening to that band. Right. But then the other, the other side. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. No, okay. I'm picking up what you're putting down. Yeah. Just the jam band. You guys like noodle. And then the other side that I think of, uh, is being from Canada.
00:15:11
Speaker
can con and everything there's a band called big sugar right which i don't know if you have on this i don't but i i have wrote it down to talk about it so okay you're bringing it up big sugar is is kind of for me what i think of as reggae rock but also they're really good like yeah like big sugar is a good band it's a little
00:15:34
Speaker
Corny to me. It's a little dad blues based rock like a little bit the the lead guy Gordy Johnson is like a Canadian Celebrity I would say like at least a B-list Canadian celebrity for sure. He's being a rock and
00:15:52
Speaker
Quote unquote Canadian rock star for 25 or 30 years for sure plays a double-neck guitar double-neck guitar Exclusively not just kind of sometimes all the time not just Aaron Barrett on one album and one tour No, and not just for one song. Yeah, just for stairway like he plays it the whole set. It's fucking weird And he also has like a crazy guitar set up, but anyways But they play like
00:16:17
Speaker
a lot of their songs have a lot of reggae influence. Right. And a lot of their hits, like their chart hits in Canada are reggae influenced. So that's kind of like, if I think of like a reggae rock song on the radio, I think of like, Put Your Lights On by Big Sugar or something to that effect. And where does the differentiation between Scott Punk and reggae rock begin? Like at what point are we crossing over?
00:16:44
Speaker
It's different for different people, I would assume, but for me, the difference between rock and punk is pretty stark. Right. And it's kind of hard to define, but like when I hear it, I know it. Right. There's a certain level of like punk music is
00:17:05
Speaker
Written to be punk and and rock music is written to be more rocky, right? I just like I don't know how that well that translates but like that's and I hear it Yeah, like if I hear a fast rock song like a fast AC DC song is not a punk song because it's a fast AC DC song, right? It's still a rock song
00:17:26
Speaker
You know what I mean? But you listen to a band like the Hives and they take a pretty standard rock song a lot of the times and make it into a punk song. Somewhere along that line there's a shift and I think it's the intention of the writing of the song or the playing of the song, I would say. So when I think reggae rock, I think the intention there is to be
00:17:51
Speaker
rock. Right. Like classic rock boomer bends. Yeah. That type of rock mixed with like
00:18:00
Speaker
Bob Marley Reggae. Like, Bob Marley Reggae. You know what I mean? Yes. I'm sure they have big reggae influences all of it, but we're talking about the most pop mainstream reggae you can think of is absolutely the frame of reference. One hundred percent. And when you listen to these songs, like, some are more rock than others, they don't necessarily need, like, electric guitar breaks.
00:18:25
Speaker
It's an instrument, but it doesn't have to have distortion. Like for it to be reggae rock. And sometimes people will be just like, well, this is just a reggae song. It's like you have to really appreciate the fact that these white dudes were listening to rock music when they wrote it to like, again, I'm being dismissive and maybe we can cut this out. Because some of these people are just like, I'm sure they're writing the best music they can. And a lot of them play very well. But there's a difference between
00:18:53
Speaker
someone like chris murray yes knowing intimately knowing the music or someone like esteban who like intimately knows the difference between a reggae song and a rock steady song and a and for a lot of these bands
00:19:11
Speaker
I can't say with definite purpose that the writers of these songs knew the difference between a reggae song and a rocksteady song. 100%. You know what I mean? Like they were just like, ah, that Bob Marley kind of music. Yeah. And so I think like I'm looking through this list and I'm like a handful of these bands, I really like a handful of them I'm fine with and a couple of them I fucking hate.
00:19:34
Speaker
So we're going to really get into it. Like I have such a wide ranging opinion of like, and I'm going to, and as we go, I'm going to try to figure out why I like some, but I don't give, and I dislike others. Okay, this is going to be an analysis of- But you clocked it when we talked because Joey does not know the songs we're playing. I don't. And so he's going to have to play a little game with me. Okay. So we're going to play a song. A little game.
00:19:59
Speaker
Yeah, a little game. We're going to play a song. Maybe you'll know it. Maybe you won't. And then I'll tell you what the game is after the first one we play. So let's start. Oh, I should mention a lot of these songs are in the aughts. That makes sense. So this is like a post-sublime, post-311 world. Of course. Yep. Where those bands are already established and popular, changed a lot of the game for everybody. And now we're into the more like 2000, 2010s. So let's start with the first one.
00:20:31
Speaker
Alright. Cheering. I could not tell you which band this is, but I've heard this song a lot. Yeah. This is Can-Con, baby. I started with Can-Con. Oh, this is Lil' Scarlet? This is Lil' Scarlet. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:21:01
Speaker
Il Scarlet? They're excellent. Dude, that album that's all the covers, like kind of neon green and black and white, I don't know what it is. That's a fun album, a good album. This is off of the EP Demick, which I think is a hilarious theme for it. It's very good. Weren't all of their stuff like... Little funny things. Yeah, funny things, yeah.
Spotlight on Il Scarlet
00:21:30
Speaker
the wallow pedal that's part of it oh yeah got it can't be a reggae rock band with the wallow pedal going on and ill scarlet's got some punk um like credentials as well which is maybe why i give them a little bit more
00:21:47
Speaker
And they play a little faster, like it's not like super slow reggae, it's like they got a little bit of a bounce to it, you know what I mean? Yeah, it's peppy. It's peppy, there you go. And if you take some of those letters, you make another reggae rock band, peppy. Just some of those letters. Yeah, four of them. Right.
00:22:08
Speaker
So yeah, Il Scarlet. They're fun. They're Canadian. Non-Canadians? Do you know? Do you know Il Scarlet? This is the band I was referring to. The one that people ask that we do is Il Scarlet. Listener Ben. This is his most listened to band of all time. Yeah. He is stated in the Discord. So yeah. So now here's the game, Joey.
00:22:31
Speaker
How many streams do you think this song, this particular song has on spot? Wow. And we were going to, we're going to do this cause it'll, it'll, it'll really shed some light on how we're approaching this. Can you give me like a, not like a ballpark, but like a,
00:22:48
Speaker
No, just throw a number out, because then I'll just tell you if you're right or wrong. Okay. How many streams? 350,000. A million. Wow, that's pretty good. A million. Bill Scarlett got a million streams on this, and it's not their most streamed song. They had a song with two million, but this is the one I always think of when I think of Bill Scarlett is.
00:23:07
Speaker
I'm so stone. Yeah. That's a pretty classic line. Yeah. Um, so that's where we're going to start with ill scarlet. And I think this is going to start to kind of give you an idea of the direction I'm going in with this. So I'm going to say that that was a Ben that you did not dislike. I did not dislike. No, I do not dislike ill scarlet. I give them a pass. They're good. They're fun. Yeah. I like ill scarlet too. So onto the next track three on our list.
00:23:45
Speaker
Well that's some reggae. Sure is. I recognize this and can't place it too.
00:24:05
Speaker
Huh. I never checked my sound clash on Fridays. I should check that.
00:24:17
Speaker
So this band is name checking all the big reggae bands that influenced them. That's fun. They could probably tell you the difference between reggae and rock steady. And there's a reason for that. Can you gather what this band is?
00:24:36
Speaker
I think it would be like a reggae band, like people who know their shit. They have bonafides. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's the one and only Long Beach Dub All Stars. That's why I recognize it. AKA Sublime with Noah Bradley Noel. Right. Yes. You know, I probably haven't listened to those first two or three Long Beach Dub All Stars albums in
00:25:00
Speaker
I put some time into them. In their early aughts, I put some time into it. I listened to them while skateboarding a lot, so they were on, and I heard them. But I don't know if I ever... I think I...
00:25:13
Speaker
moved past my sublime thing. Right. And kind of like. They scratch a, they definitely scratch a sublime itch for a lot of people. And that Will I Am song I remember was like pretty, pretty popular for a minute too. Yeah. Yeah. So, uh, how many streams do you think they have on Spotify? Oh, that's gotta be like, cause long beach of all stars is a pretty big band. That's gotta be, uh,
00:25:37
Speaker
4 million. 10 million. 10 million. Wow. 10 million streams for the Long Beach. I'm just going to start making my guess and then timing it by like three. It seems like you're undershooting. 2.5 to three. I will say you're understanding sort of my surprise as well. Okay. Because I'm also surprised by this level of engagement that people have. Let's move on to the next one. It's super accessible though. That's why.
00:26:05
Speaker
It's so accessible. It's vibes without having to get it. That's the best thing I've ever heard. It's just super accessible. That's why Nickelback does so well, because it rocks. But you don't have to get it. It just rocks. Right. You don't have to know anything about it. That's it, right? All right, here's the next one. Number quattro.
00:26:46
Speaker
Probably never heard this band before. Or maybe you do. You know I kind of recognize it a little bit, but I don't know because a lot of this stuff is... A lot of these guys sing like this. Yes, they do. Yeah.
00:27:03
Speaker
It's a band called Belly Who. And they were a warped tour band, late-warped tour, like 2012. Oh, okay. So maybe I didn't knock you off then. Praying at the altar of sublime.
00:27:18
Speaker
Like, 100% bowing and praying, lighting candles. They seem like a band that has, like, Bradley Knoll, like, um... Oh, yeah. Those candles, the... Like, the praying candles or whatever, and the, like, glass with the Virgin Mary, but, like, with Brad Knoll on them. This band feels like they have those on the amps, you know?
00:27:49
Speaker
They definitely got like a rug in their jam space. Well, it's just all this merch. Sublime merch is easy to find. Like, I'm sure they had no problem finding that kind of stuff. You can find it at Walmart. Yeah, that's right. It's the same as the Misfits skull. You can get it all everywhere, right? You just got to get the sun. How many streams do you think that bad boy's got on the old Spotify? I don't know if your game is going to keep going up and up and up.
00:28:17
Speaker
You never know with Rob. I do never know with Rob, but I feel like Long Beach to Ball Stars One probably has more streams than that. And Long Beach had four million, you said? Ten. You said four million. I said four. The answer was much higher. So I'm gonna guess for this band that it is eight million views. Thirty seven million. What? That's wild. Did they do well overseas? No, they were just a touring American band.
00:28:46
Speaker
37 million streams. That's Ballyhoo, a band you definitely heard of before I started this podcast, right? Wow. It sounded so familiar though, like all of this stuff. I know. I mean, all right, let's go on to the next one. This is fun. That's how they get you. I'm really enjoying this. This is exactly how I was hoping this would go. All right.
00:29:16
Speaker
You might know this song. This song you might know. Yeah, go ahead. Let's kick it off.
00:29:30
Speaker
I am dancing. I like this. Yep. We're vibing. Me and Joey are actually kind of
00:29:51
Speaker
I have no idea who this is, but... You've heard of them. Definitely heard of them. If you've heard of Sublime, you've heard of them. These are all bands that I like heard of like a decade ago and then forgot about. This band was going in the 90s. This is contemporaries of Sublime.
00:30:18
Speaker
Yeah. Scientists, Sublime's record label, Skunk Records, one of the few bands that was on there.
Slightly Stoopid: A Blend of Reggae and Punk
00:30:25
Speaker
How much of the song did you put on here? It keeps changing! Like, the guy's just like, he's like whatever reggae vocal trick he has, he just put a new one on, it's bananas. The song is crazy. Yeah.
00:30:44
Speaker
This song is called Officer if that gives you a clue. They also use the force because they are a Jedi. I don't know if that gives you any tips. I want to say Red-Eyed Jedi has something to do with this.
00:30:56
Speaker
Slightly stupid. Slightly stupid. A band that I've resisted listening to. I know. Me and Joey have talked about it before because I have told Joey that the longest barrel ride, their second record, is fucking awesome. And it's really, really good. But this was on their third one when they went mainstream and they did a lot of hip hop stuff. But before that, they were basically just sublime. Yeah. And they just did reggae and punk. And they're really...
00:31:21
Speaker
I love Slightly Stupid. I'm a big fan. I almost, because I listened to so much Sublime before, I actually almost prefer Long as Barrel Ride by Slightly Stupid, just because I'm not as burnt out on it. If I hear Johnny Law come on, I'm like, that song fucking is awesome. But how many streams do you think that song has on Spotify?
00:31:45
Speaker
47 million 43 you're on the right track slightly stupid very popular band they are and they do well overseas they're constantly touring yeah constantly they're always on tour and they crank out records like they just crank them out like they just know it's not like they they figured out their rhythm and they know what they're making and they don't really make like straight reggae songs as much anymore it's just like they're kind of a jam bandy sort of kind of just make loose like vibey stuff now so yeah yeah
00:32:30
Speaker
for the listeners every time a song comes on i like make direct eye contact with joey to see if he figures it out yeah i don't know if i recognize this one like i mean you know this band do i oh yeah we talked about this band a bunch already in their
00:32:35
Speaker
Alright, let's move on to the next one.
00:32:59
Speaker
Previous iteration I'm trying to pick up the vocalist Controversial vocalist Really? Yeah people are not a fan of this vocalist I think he wasn't a good fit for the band
00:33:17
Speaker
But they were still incredibly popular, sold records like crazy. Wait till the song is over and then I'll tell you. It's giving hints. This is like, soft as hell, but it's fine. Yeah. It's a little band called Sublime of Ecarome. Oh, that's a later... Yes, that's a later Sublime.
00:33:44
Speaker
Soft as hell. Soft as hell. People are not a big fan of that Rome guy and he's not in there anymore. Uh, but he's doing, aren't they, isn't he also still touring as some version of Sublime though? I don't remember how that works. It's all stupid. And Sublime is actually back sort of with his little, little law, whatever his name is. Yeah. What a confusing situation. How many streams do you think that bad boy's got?
00:34:18
Speaker
54 45 only 2 million more than the slightly stupid song and I will say slightly stupid biggest streaming song has more than that one and it's slightly stupid Arguably more. Okay. So yeah slightly stupid's biggest song is closer to the Sun not a reggae song 128 million for that one Wow, and yeah and sublime with Rome at their biggest hit 45
00:34:36
Speaker
That has to have a lot. There's sublime in the title.
00:34:44
Speaker
Really? Wow. Was that wild? And what's Sublime's biggest? What a fantastic question you're asking. What is Sublime's highest Spotify stream song?
00:34:56
Speaker
It's got to be what I got. It's got to be what I got, right? Yeah, for sure. What I got. Has to be what I got. It isn't. Wow. And not by a long shot. Really? Yeah. What I got is their second biggest. Really? Santeria is their biggest one. Oh, okay. Yeah, that makes sense. That's fair. What are the numbers? 744 million. Wow. What I got, 465. That big of a disparity. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's like almost double. Holy smokes. That's crazy. That people talk about not practicing Santeria.
00:35:26
Speaker
Yeah, is Smoke 2 Joints in the top five? Nope. Bad Fish is third. Oh, yeah. Wrong Way is fifth. Yeah, that also makes sense. Doin' Time is the fourth one. That's kind of surprising. Yeah. Doin' Time fucks, that's like one of the best ones on the list, I'd say. So nothing from self-titled, or nothing from 40-ounce in their top five. Crazy. Isn't that crazy? That is great. Blows your mind, right? This is all mind-blowing. Wow. All right, we got one more song before we take a break. We're chit-chatting. This might be a little juicy of an episode. All right, here we go.
00:35:57
Speaker
Oh yeah, that's real reggae. It's slow. So, I have a theory as to why these songs do so well. Okay. And I know you make a good point about how accessible it is. It's really easy to get into. Yep. The biggest, most popular songs are love songs.
00:36:28
Speaker
and they're like either vibey or I actually think that there's something, and when we get to some later songs, I think there's something about like stoner love songs that people really like.
The Appeal of Stoner Love Songs
00:36:41
Speaker
Lovers reggae rock, if you will. A little, yeah. It's like, but it's not quite Lovers Rock because it's like so overt about it, you know what I mean? Yeah, it's this real horny reggae.
00:36:55
Speaker
It's not even horny though, like their songs aren't like, let's fucking smoke some weed. That's sublime. Right. Everybody else is like, I want to hold your hand while we smoke this bowl. Okay. You know what I mean? Like it's like very sad. Like they roughed the edges down and just like scrubbed it so that people could be like, Oh, that's such a cute song. You know what I mean? It's just a theory.
00:37:19
Speaker
How many streams do you think that guy got? What was that, by the way? Oh, sorry. That is a band called Revolution. Okay. Yeah. Which I've heard this record before, and it's not bad. I've seen... It's not incredible, but it's not bad. Internet has tried to, has offered revolution to me. I've not accepted, but it's been offered. It's not much of a revolution, but I get it. It's a bit of a revolution. And the first track on that record is really good, but how many streams do you think it's got?
00:37:45
Speaker
Remembering that Sublime with Rome, last one, was 45. Slightly stupid, cracked 70. That was like slower and more accessible, I would say, even those other two. 48. Pretty close, 50. You're getting there. Still 50 million for a band that sounds like that. Yeah, that's not for me. All right, let's take it. But also.
00:38:14
Speaker
If I walked into a head shop, and that's what was on. Of course they were playing it. I'd be vibing. They understand their audience. Yeah, they're fine. All right, let's take a break. And when we get back, we got seven more of these bad boys. Cool.
00:38:35
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00:41:18
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Welcome back to Checkered Past. Joey and Rob here, and we're talking Reggae Rock, and it's been an adventure. We're rocking. We're hacking. We are hacking. We're hacking some sacks with this one. We're hacking. We're buying some screens to go in our pipes. We're standing around in the alley with our phones blaring Reggae Rock.
00:41:46
Speaker
All right, let's look at this next one. This is track eight on our list here. Let's see if you recognize this song. This had some heat for a little while.
00:42:12
Speaker
If you were listening to Sonic at some point, the live version of this was going on there. Oh really? I don't know. But Sonic loves, Sonic is a radio station here. I'll turn it on. It's fine. You know, this is, again, like,
00:42:39
Speaker
It's a little dubbier. I like that it's a little dubbier than some of this stuff has been. I like this dancehall beat thing. Oh, this part's kinda familiar, maybe. He loves God. Is it Metisia? You got it, Joey. Metisia? At you? Yeah.
00:43:05
Speaker
Yeah, I don't believe he markets himself this anymore. I haven't kept up with him. But when this, he was a acidic, reggae rock. Jew guy. That was his thing. Yeah, that was his old deal. His whole thing. Yeah. And he beatboxed. That was the other thing, right? Oh yeah, he beatboxed. He was a big beatboxer. And then he put out a song with someone that blew up like a,
00:43:34
Speaker
Still blazing, still blazing, still blazing. That song. Oh, sure. And that went pretty big. And then his next album, he hired Dub Trio to be his live band. Yeah. When he toured.
00:43:46
Speaker
Which is sick and I've been a proponent of dub trio for a long time. I believe Sly and Robbie has also recorded with him at some point. That's cool. So yeah. Yeah. I'd say his bona fides are there for when it comes to reggae and reggae rock stuff. Absolutely. I think he knows his shit. Is he less, he's less sticky these days though? I think so. I think he pulled the, the, the shtick down a little bit. Cause it was, it was to the point of shtick.
00:44:08
Speaker
It got a little bit in that direction. And I don't think he wanted it to be that way. I think he genuinely was like, I want to write religious reggae songs. Yes. And I want this to be my thing. And so I don't really knock him for it, but it did get to the point of like, it was like kind of a shtick for sure.
00:44:26
Speaker
But the Live at Stubbs record, that was what popped off. And then he did the full lengths, and then he got to where he is. So that's King Without a Crown, Madison Yahoo. How many streams do you think that guy had on the old Spotify?
00:44:41
Speaker
That's got to be quite a few. Uh, 53. Spot on, Joey. Oh, yeah. Spot on 53 million on that one. Nicely done. Quite a few. That's exactly quite a few. 53 million. Yeah. And that's the kind of heat Madison Yahoo has. Yeah. Yeah. All right, let's play the next one. Number nine. Here's a band I've seen live. Yes, you know it is.
00:45:10
Speaker
We're taking it down. That is chill. And a real piano. A piano sound on a keyboard. I saw them at Warp Tour on a tertiary stage. Okay, that gives me an idea of how big they were. Yep, make sure I got them just packed and feel alright.
00:45:41
Speaker
Couldn't tell ya. This is pretty chill though. This is... This has got some real chill vibes. Sleepy time. This is melatonin rock. Wait, here it is. Oh, I see what you're talking about now. Oh yeah. Yeah, it's romantic.
00:46:09
Speaker
But it's not like horny, it's like, just like, hey man, I got this pipe for you, I got this bong for you. Yeah, you wanna come smoke? That's the kind butt, dude. Yeah, so the song is called Bowl for Two. The band is called The Expendables. The Expendables. Okay. I can recall hearing that name. Do you have a guess as to how many streams they have on Spotify?
00:46:39
Speaker
Well, I mean, let's go through the list. They had Sylvester Stallone in that band. They had, Bruce Willis was in that one, I think. They had, who are the other old guys in that one? I believe Jason Statham showed up at one point. So I mean, that's a lot of star power. So I would say that's going to equate to a lot of listens, but they were a warp tour band.
00:47:06
Speaker
So, and I don't know about their like international thing, but the numbers have been going up. So. And how, how, how much like power do you think a song called bowl for two would get? And think about how like worldwide 420 network is out there. Um, I'm going to go with.
00:47:31
Speaker
50 million. 81. 81 million listens. Holy smokes. A bowl for two by the Expendables. That's wild. 420 Nation is out there. Yes. A lesson in 420 Nation is this episode. 420 Nation is out there. Okay, so we're about to hit number 10.
Pepper's Unique Sound
00:47:52
Speaker
Who haven't we done yet? Who do you think should have definitely been on this list that hasn't been approached yet?
00:47:58
Speaker
That seems... I don't think about this stuff. Just think about it a little bit. It sounds like the internet really wants you to be into this music and you've resisted the urge. I have. They all got... Isn't there one called Bad Fish? Isn't there one of those bands? Just like a band that has like a sublime. Yes, I'm pretty sure there is. Probably. Probably maybe that one. Oh man. Yeah, we've gotten more...
00:48:29
Speaker
Yeah, I can't think. I don't know very many of their names because they're all kind of mushed together for me. They're all kind of a homogenous, sounding reggae thing. We're about to get to a band that I actually do enjoy. Okay. So this next one is actually a band I like. Maybe there's only a less homogenous. I don't think so. I think it's going to sound the exact same. Okay. This is also a band I've seen on Warped Tour on the main stage.
00:48:54
Speaker
One of my all-time favorite bass players. I feel his bass tone, especially live, is fucking phenomenal. This one's pretty heavy on the dub vibes too. I like that. What do you think of that little, like, truly keyboard
00:49:22
Speaker
big fan of that and like the the reverb also contemporaries of sublime okay but not in California not in California no across the ocean from California which pond Rob the Pacific pond
00:49:47
Speaker
into the middle of the Pacific pond. There's a little island over there. Uh, Australia? That's a good guess. Not that far. Come back a little bit. You went too far, Joey. You went too far. Hawaii? Yes.
00:50:05
Speaker
Well, I think I cut that song off a little early. Anyway, yes, because it's very, very vibey, very dubby off of a little album called Kona Town, one of my favorite reggae albums. That's pretty wide. A band called Pepper. Oh, OK. Yeah, that I never really listened to, but I do recall you talking about them. I have heard a song. I am a fan. They're quite good. Yeah.
00:50:28
Speaker
How many streams do you think that bad boy's got on Spotify? Oh, the last one at 80-something, so this has got to be 9... 60. 96. 96. Wendell too high. 82. Still, for that song, remember, this still is exceeding Sublime with Rome.
00:50:52
Speaker
That's pretty insane. And I think we've just crested Slightly Stupid. That song is like the first one now to get over Slightly Stupid's biggest song. And these aren't songs that are...
00:51:07
Speaker
in the zeitgeist and are going to suddenly pop off. You know what I mean? Like the disparity in the amount of time that a song has been out, I don't think is going to make that huge of a difference for a lot of these songs. You know what I mean? No, no, exactly. And there's basically on this list where we've got two kinds of songs. We got the poppiest, most poppy song. That's like a minute in you get your chorus. Yeah.
00:51:34
Speaker
And then you got the most like sluggish, dubbed out, like vibey songs that don't get to a chorus at all. And if they do, it's like a minute and 40 seconds. And the song is just a total vibe. All right, let's move on to the next one. We only got a handful left. We only have four left.
00:52:04
Speaker
Okay. This band is an international touring band. Okay. Who I will admit I never heard of before researching this. Really? I was pretty shocked when I saw that they were this high on the list. Yeah. I guess the question is, Rob, do you get it? No, I don't get it. I don't get why this one's so much more popular. I'll wait till I hear some focus first before I make my comment.
00:52:32
Speaker
if there are ever vocals there are this is one of those minute 40s songs right i mean it is just a vibing reggae jam this is all right
00:52:55
Speaker
I don't know if I still agree with my initial thing. I was like, it sounds kind of British, like kind of UK vibe to me with the reggae, the way the reggae was, but now I hear this vocal and I don't think that anymore. Now it sounds like the Chainsmokers. Yeah. Yeah. Another get high love song. You know? Yeah.
00:53:22
Speaker
Why are we still smoking spliffs? There's enough weed to just put weed in there, man. Why gotta put the tobacco in there?
00:53:31
Speaker
I will defend to the death your right to use a tobacco leaf to wrap the weed with, because I'm a fan of a blunt. But why are you putting tobacco into the weed? I just, it's, people on the East Coast smoke like spliffs and it's weird and it makes my head hurt. I don't like it.
00:53:54
Speaker
Stop it. That's my message to you, spliff smokers. Just smoke regular, just smoke weed. If you take anything away from this episode, it's just smoke weed. Stop smoking spliffs. Yeah, stop smoking spliffs. The band's called Stick Figure, and the song's called Smoke and Love, and what do you think the streams are on that guy? You know what? I have, as you said, the internet's been trying.
00:54:19
Speaker
And I have heard of Stick Figure. And I have heard that they're massively popular. So I'm going to go over 100 mil this time. 104 mil. Overshot again, 87. But not by much. It's still pretty big. For a band that I arguably did not, I think they did get a radio hit. I think they were a top reggae hit.
00:54:43
Speaker
Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I've only ever like peripherally seen of them, but I didn't know that they are... They're a headlining band. Really popular. Really popular. This is the type of band that like sells out colleges, which is like a lot of these bands. And then this is like exactly that. I mean, that's prime hack territory. You got to go where the hack is. You got to go where the hack is. Get your hack radar on and just like fucking beep, beep, beep. Oh, it's over here at this college. Of course it is.
00:55:10
Speaker
You think there's a hack app? I think that really tells you where the hacking's happening. Shit, it's just every time I download the hack app, though, the government's after me. Okay, let's go on to the next one. We've got three left. This is number 12. This is another band I've never heard of before we did this. Okay.
00:55:45
Speaker
Not for me. Wow. So this is, we've turned a corner and this is not. This would already be a skip if this came up like.
00:55:56
Speaker
Bands, if you put note albums, they got this song on it. Sorry, dude. This is a hardcore political song, too. Like, this is a hardcore political band. Get me interested in the song so I'm interested in what you're singing about, please.
00:56:15
Speaker
But this is fucking melatonin. It's melatonin raked, like you'd call it. Holy moly. Oof, sleepy. 15 milligrams, like a lot. Also another international sensation. And probably, actually, out of all of these bands, this one is the one that has the most international appeal.
00:56:43
Speaker
Okay. And it's a band called Soja, S-O-J-A. The song is called True Love. What do you think is this? Yeah. What do you think the streams on this bad boy are? 90. 101. 101. We broke a hundred. We broke a hundred. That's wild for that song. That song has a hundred and one million streams. People that have that on their, like, go to sleep playlist, right? Yeah.
00:57:10
Speaker
Like maybe that's what it's for. Yeah. Maybe like you go to sleep and you absorb the protest, like vibes. So when you wake up the next day, you're like ready to take on the powers that be. Yeah, right. Like I'm into the message. But with love. Yeah, but with love. I'm into the message. I just like, like I said, make your song interesting so I care what you're singing about. I'm sorry.
00:57:36
Speaker
All right, second to last song. I'm getting, we're, I'm just getting real excited for these last couple. I'm not going to lie. Let's listen to this. The hook in this song makes no bloody fucking sense. Very modern.
00:58:02
Speaker
This has got to be like 21 pilots or something, I want to say. So close, oh my god, you're right on the money. Yeah, it's one of those types of hoops for sure. I'm going to make myself sound old, but this is like, I can't get into it, but I understand why the kids are into it. You know what I mean? Yeah, but this...
00:58:30
Speaker
Calling out the 21 pilots that like so close. Yeah, it's so such a similar I don't know enough of those bands to know which band this is but that's to know which one it is. Yeah, cuz it's The fucking dirty heads if you know, oh my yeah. All right. Well, that song is called vacation a a a
00:58:53
Speaker
That fucking look is stupid people love it kids love it, you know, the kids love it and that's not for me I like the trap beat in it. Yeah, I like the drum, but it is super modern for me Yeah, but for me not not really for me and how many streams do you think that guy's that's gotta have a shitload of streams like I
00:59:14
Speaker
Fuck, doesn't that sound tailor made? That sounds like it has a buttload of streams. I'm gonna go 200. Quarter mill. Really? 250. 250 mill. Quarter bill.
00:59:26
Speaker
That's a lot. So now, okay, we're going to set the stage before we get into this last one. Anyway, that song, I have whatever. It's not for me. Dirty Heads are huge. Huge. So big. Just that 21 pilot style of like, I do think I get why people get it. It's not like Linkin Park where I just don't get it.
00:59:48
Speaker
And actually there's a direct lineage from Lincoln Park right to bands like that actually. Yeah, I'd say so. For sure. But it's not that I don't get it, it just isn't my jam. And so that had 250 million. Yeah. Okay. EB40's red red wine has 615 million.
01:00:12
Speaker
Wow. But it's, it's the classic old songs get the benefit of time. Yeah. And also that one in particular is like, was on a bajillion compilation. If you own a grocery store, you could queue up a Spotify playlist, shove it on there and it's already playing 12 times a day. You know what I mean? So like fucking Safeway is probably like cruising on red, red wine. You know what I mean? Um, and then we said Santeria had 750 million. So that's where we're at.
01:00:40
Speaker
Now let's go into this final track. Dad, I can't believe you haven't called out that we haven't talked about yet, because this song is ever
Magic's 'Rude' and Its Popularity
01:00:48
Speaker
-present. Really? Yeah. Oh, yeah. This fucking song. Wait, we've got to listen to this. Have you ever listened to the lyrics of this song? Yeah. Do you know what it's about? Yeah. I'm going to turn it up.
01:01:10
Speaker
Is this a slow version of it? Is it actually just this slow? This is what I got. Maybe I did get a slow version of it. It does feel a little slower, right? Yeah. Yeah, that's okay. Still, this song is so fucking popular.
01:01:48
Speaker
If you're Canadian. Everywhere. Everywhere. Everywhere. I don't even think they're from Canada, are they? I thought they were. Oh, maybe they are. Let's look it up.
01:02:00
Speaker
Yeah, Talking Magic and Celine just showed up. Yeah. Where are you at? The chorus.
01:02:07
Speaker
Well, they are from Canada. We started with... Okay, so we started in Canada, now we're in Canada. What do you have to say about that song? We think we got a slow version of this song. Okay, but still. I love this song. Okay, what do you think... Exclamation point. Yeah, well they have an exclamation point, like how fun has a period. Celine and Joey, how many streams do you think that song has on Spotify?
01:02:35
Speaker
So the are they Canadian? Yes, okay, so I don't feel that's why I don't think it's that worldwide though No, it is a worldwide hit Robert Yeah, it's like it's like reggae weekend, okay, uh kind 10 mil
01:02:53
Speaker
Do you say 10 million? We've already hit 250 million with dirty heads. Oh, so I'm all out of whack. And we've already established that the big heavy hitters like Santa Maria are like 750. I have no idea.
01:03:09
Speaker
I'm gonna go 500 mil. 1.5 billion streams. Bub, bub, billion. Bub, bub, billion. They are reggae fucking red. Fucking rude. Reggae weekend. Weekend. Right? How insane is that? Thanks for coming, Selene.
01:03:29
Speaker
That's insane. Not insane, but that song, actually, when I walk into a grocery store, they see my checkered past hat and they're like, oh, that guy. And they queue it up because it plays every time I'm in the grocery store. Every time, look at that shit. That's insane. There's another comma.
01:03:51
Speaker
There's another comma. And they're halfway, and it's halfway to two billion. Like halfway through another billion to two billion. That's right. We went from 750 million for Santeria. This is twice as popular. Rude by Magic. That's insane. Their next closest hit is 159 million, and that's the acoustic version of that song. Wow. That's crazy.
01:04:16
Speaker
Like, let's listen to the actual version. Maybe I'm gonna... Yeah, that sounds... Yeah, it's faster. A little bit faster. Yeah. So maybe I'll send the actual one and we can just put it on under. But yeah. So, whatever version I got, I pulled off the... I thought I pulled the album version, but maybe I didn't. Or something got weird when I uploaded it. But still... Okay, Joey, what's that song about? What do you understand that that song is about? That guy is him.
01:04:46
Speaker
He wants to marry his girlfriend. He goes over to his girlfriend's dad's house. He says, look man, I want to marry your daughter. And the guy goes, nope. And then he sings the chorus of the song. And then the guy says, the answer's still no. And then the guy's like, hey man, why you gotta be so rude? Don't you know that I'm human too?
01:05:12
Speaker
i'm gonna marry you anyway fuck you but not the fuck you part it's not even a fuck you it's just like this i'm really getting into the weeds of this song but the story of this song really feels like it's just like this like fucking probably bum like i'm not gonna laugh he probably was like the most hacking sack stoner hippie dude ever is like
01:05:36
Speaker
Hey man, I'm going to marry your daughter." And he's like, the fuck you are. And he's like, hey man, why are you so rude all the time? Why are you going to be so rude? Why are you going to be so rude? Why are you going to be so rude? Why are you going to be so rude?
01:05:57
Speaker
This story has no good characters. The protagonist is unlikable. I love your daughter. I'm gonna marry her. I don't think so. Why you gotta be so rude?
01:06:09
Speaker
God! And again, again, remember my theory, stoner love songs are just like... I never really thought of that song as a stoner love song. I kind of just thought of him as being like a loser. But also, I thought it was clever wordplay that it's why you gotta be so rude and it's like,
01:06:32
Speaker
A reggae song. A reggae, sky reggae song. Yeah and like I appreciated that amount of it. But I've heard it so many times. Like sometimes. It's so popular. And I have no idea what the rest of that record sounds like. Like I mean I'm sure they have one or two other hits. They had to have a peripheral hit or two.
01:06:52
Speaker
Apparently not, apparently they could not escape that hit. They couldn't escape. Like, look again, I'm showing Joey the fucking Spotify streams on it again. And 1.5, it's not even close. Play No Way No. Just play it into the mic. We'll see if it picks up. 76 million on this. Yeah, okay. And maybe it's the can-con-iness, but I remember this song being on the radio too.
01:07:27
Speaker
I mean, it's a similar vibe. Yeah. And it's no way, no, no way, no, no way. Oh yeah, I do remember that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, but again, that might be the Canadian, that might be the can con. Do you know what I mean? Just a one and a half billion. Yeah. Doesn't that blow your fucking mind? That's wild. That's a lot. So, okay. I know I hyped it up at the beginning, but that was really what like,
01:07:52
Speaker
When it came to like building this episode, I just could not wrap my head around. Hold on. So our previous like mind blowing, uh, number thing was, is the weekend, right? So the weekend had, uh, yeah, I mean, blinding lights, blinding lights has quite a bit more, but, but sorry, I'm just curious what the numbers are on that. Just for like a reference of, uh, Oh, sure. Okay. So, so weekend.
01:08:23
Speaker
with no E, with no third E. Yeah, right. So he's 4.2 billion. So I mean, root's like a third of the way there. Yeah, a root is a third of a weekend. That's pretty wild. And what was some of the other ones? Like I want to say, like this is great content, you can cut this out. So Chop Suey is 1.3 billion.
01:08:51
Speaker
So it's like a chop suey. It's a chop suey. It's basically just surpassed the chop suey. It has surpassed chop suey, right? Yeah. Okay. And what was that Papa Roach song again? Last Resort? Last Resort, right, okay. Which I should know, right? And Papa Roach, 1.1 billion. So, so Rude falls in the system of a down Papa Roach level of popularity.
01:09:21
Speaker
That's pretty big. But as a one-hit wonder, arguably as a one-hit wonder, that had another hit but nowhere near. From a Canadian, I believe, like, sound, like Bedouin sound clash, ill-Scarlet-adjacent band.
01:09:36
Speaker
Right, Ill Scarlet, one million. That's wild. This is 111 times, no more than that, 1,400 times as popular as 1A by Ill Scarlet. That's wild. Just crazy. From Toronto based in Los Angeles. That's why I thought, because I thought they were an LA band, but they're from Toronto based in LA. Anyway, Reggy Rock,
01:10:03
Speaker
How can you be so rude? Fuck me. Why you gotta be so rude? And I'm so glad we got a cameo from Celine on that. Yeah, yeah.
01:10:10
Speaker
uh so here's some other bands we didn't get to talk about uh pacifiers and other like uh which is a pass a fire pass a fire dude yeah that's a clever little like passive do you get it they're like a political like reggae rock band um zox which is actually they're ska adjacent uh they have a violin that does the skanks
01:10:35
Speaker
Oh, it's very cool yellow card. Um, yeah, I'm no much, much different. Skindred. That was, I was thinking of talking about Skindred. Uh, supervillains are also Scott coded. And so I didn't put them on there. Cottonmouth Kings obviously do a lot of that kind of stuff. Yep. Dispatch, which is like a, like a jam band that do a lot of reggae fusion. Actually jam bands do a lot of reggae fusion in general. Uh, didn't do the clash sublime three 11. Cause we did that already long beach short bus. I skipped cause we did long beach double all stars.
01:11:05
Speaker
Easy Star All-Stars, I thought about it. I didn't think it was appropriate. I would say they're more reggae. I think they're more straight up reggae. I'd say they're more reggae with rock influences rather than... They take the rock songs and make them reggae. But I don't think that there's a rock influence necessarily as much. There's some more like punkier bands like Giant of the Cat that I kind of kept away because I thought they were more punk.
01:11:26
Speaker
more local bands that are just maybe too obscure like Operator 780 or Operator 780, they're from Edmonton. They're awesome. Subcity Dwellers from Winnipeg. Then there's some other kind of bigger bands like The Movement and Iration, which I didn't want to get things too, too samey, but they sound a lot like your Ballyhoos and your Revolutions. Michael Franti and Spearhead.
01:11:47
Speaker
He was like a rapper that ended up going reggae for a little bit in the early on snoop lion Yep, you know what? I didn't put snoop lion on here fruit juice. Listen to snoop lion Listen to reincarnated. It's great If you're just like if you're sitting outside in the Sun and you've never listened to it fucking call it up on Spotify and listen to it It's a free fun record and then Joey nailed it. Uh, you know big sugar. I didn't put any big sugar one of them that I thought of that I
01:12:14
Speaker
Honestly, I've been trying to get onto the pod for a long time. Maybe we'll just play it on like a miscellaneous type thing or something. Uh, but heaven is a half pipe by OMP is a song that I feel like fits into this genre pretty well. And I don't know what any of their other songs sounded like or anything, but that song is like, uh, this feel for sure and a ripping tune. I love that song.
01:12:39
Speaker
That's it. We did it.
Mixed Feelings on Reggae Rock
01:12:40
Speaker
Reggae Rock. We done did it. Another primer, I guess? Although I feel like we were pretty kind of mean to a lot of these songs, but that's fine. It's our preference. We don't love this kind of music. I had a couple I liked. You know what? Overall, I enjoy it. Like, I mean, I like reggae.
01:12:55
Speaker
Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, I like rock. I like reggae. Some of this stuff is a little cheeseball to me. Some of the slower stuff is just boring for me. But I mean, that's me. That's me. Maybe this is the exact vibes you're looking for on a hot Saturday afternoon, right? Yeah. I mean, I literally, I think I told Andy B that like my preferred BPM is like 320 or something. So like, you know, take what I say about those little songs with a grain of salt.
Episode Wrap-Up and Future Teasers
01:13:25
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01:13:37
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