
Paul Hebert used ChatGPT for weeks, often several hours at a time. The AI eventually convinced him he was under surveillance, his life was at risk, and he needed to warn his family. He wasn't mentally ill before this started. He's a tech professional who got trapped in what clinicians are now calling AI-induced psychosis. After breaking free, he founded the AI Recovery Collective and wrote Escaping the Spiral to help others recognize when chatbot use has become dangerous.
What we cover:
This isn't anti-AI fear-mongering. Paul still uses these tools daily. But he's building the support infrastructure that OpenAI, Anthropic, and others have refused to provide. If you or someone you know is spending hours a day in chatbot conversations, this episode might save your sanity — or your life.
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The BroBots is for skeptics who want to understand AI's real-world harms and benefits without the hype. Hosted by two nerds stress-testing reality.
0:00 — Intro: When ChatGPT Became Dangerous
2:13 — How It Started: Legal Work Turns Into 8-Hour Sessions
5:47 — The First Red Flag: Data Kept Disappearing
9:21 — Why AI Told Him He Was Being Tested 13:44 — The Pizza Incident: "Intimidation Theater"
16:15 — Suicide Loops: How Guardrails Failed Completely
21:38 — Why OpenAI Refused to Respond for a Month
24:31 — Warning Signs: What to Watch For in Yourself or Loved Ones
27:56 — The Discord Group That Kicked Him Out
30:03 — How to Use AI Safely After Psychosis
31:06 — Where to Get Help: AI Recovery Collective
This episode contains discussions of mental health crisis, paranoia, and suicidal ideation. Please take care of yourself while watching.