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Speaker: I'm a piece of shit.
Speaker: Ooh, I'm a piece of shit. Yeah. Fuck yeah. Huh? What's going on in the world? It's funny. It's funny. Funny. funny Biggest of of all the events as we heard back from our our listener, Paul, sounds like things are fine. We didn't, we didn't ruin his relationship.
Speaker: Happy to hear that. dip You're on the email. I think i know how often you look at Gmail. No, I saw it. Sounds like they went the other way. They bought a new house.
Speaker: That's what i was going to say. and they up They upgraded. Fuck you, Lance. That's what they said. ah But they did it right, dude. They moved into apartment. And anyways, what's up, Paul? Although he did say, are you guys still doing the podcast? It makes me wonder.
Speaker: Well, he's not listening, but somebody is. Yeah, someone is. Literally someone. Right? No, it ticked up in the last ah three months. I bet, dude. I wonder if I haven't gone like this. If i if if we were we're better, we you like I have this opportunity. i just They just wrote an article about me in the post thing that was Post News Dispatch.
Speaker: And I could have POSed it, dude. Oh, what'd they say about you? I didn't, I don't know. You can look at it. Yeah, I mean, nothing nothing special. Just, you know, this guy lives in Costa Rica. He used to do comedy here. He's back. um that That was it. What else? yeah That's kind of it. I think it comes out in print tomorrow, but it's online right now.
Speaker: You probably find it if you look. Wow, that's some hard-hitting journalism. Yeah, it's weird. Like, they when when they, ah like, there's no way to do that. I don't know if you ever did those for your music career but like there's no way to really sound like you're on a call i will say this so the lady like writes music um like music reviews and and critiques for the paper so i think on sunday she's going to review journey who's coming to st louis and don't know if you know if you follow a journey but the the perry doesn't sing for them anymore it's like a filipino uh a black filipino arnold panetta
Speaker: That's the guy? Yeah. She said he was like a black Filipino. I knew was Filipino. I didn't know he was also black. It doesn't matter. If he is, that's like the best mix ever, right? don't know. I don't he's black. God bless him. Yeah. Maybe she was just claiming him.
Speaker: ah But, so anyways, she called me back because she's like, what you what's the name of your company in St. Louis? and And then she's like, what shows you doing this weekend? And I could tell she was just kind of journaling it a little bit and So I go, all right, well, I have a show Thursday night at ah this place. And then on Sunday, I've been asked to do do a couple of songs with Journey on like Wheel in the Sky and a couple other songs. And she's just going, okay, good.
Speaker: Okay. and then I'm like Jasmine I'm not singing with Journey and then she realized like she's just she's busted out laughing she's like if you knew the week I was having or something like that but that was that was the that was the funny part of the interview but but you can't capture that so now Paul and the other guy know that it happened you so did you tap it bro no Jasmine uh uh we're friends but but Although I don't think she put in the article, I mentioned my nonprofit, the, the, uh, I'm going to just roll with your question.
Speaker: I mentioned the Roots Down Fund and she, she'll, she'll help me kick off some fundraising shows and stuff and and put it in through her media channels.
Speaker: So do I have to, do I have to reward her? That's what I was thinking. Uh, what kind of circulation they run in thousand households, maybe?
Speaker: It's like the Denver Post of St. Louis or something like that. So i maybe like 50,000? I don't know. Like who reads a newspaper now? but but It's down to like 8,000. Dude, I was driving around last night because I thought the print copy was coming out last night and my friend won it wants it.
Speaker: And shes she's so she's like, you got to find it. So I'm like, all right. So I'm driving around. It's pretty funny. I'm in St. Louis kind of in the hood. and and i And I went there at night and i like I kept going to grocery stores and the newspaper stands empty. And they're like, nah, man, we get like four a day. Nobody buys those things anymore. so so they they get like four newspapers.
Speaker: a day and they sell them and that's it. Cause people don't really read the newspaper, I guess. But I'm like, maybe they should bump it up to six to eight because every place is sold out. Maybe they can do eight a day at each supermarket.
Speaker: Shit. Uh, that is funny. Cause the paper was so amazing when we were doing, uh, originally doing these entertainment things we were doing in the early two thousands. It was still hopping.
Speaker: If you got in the paper though, it was like look at that shit. Mm hmm. It was nice. Mom's trying to cut it out and shit. Yeah. Even, even remember getting interviewed for football or whatever ah and being in, you know, having a picture.
Speaker: it was big. You thought anyone gave a shit too. i' like It's just the the people around the team, your parents looking for you. Same with this. but But now the cool thing is, so it's online and it is actually a way, like they can pump it out.
Speaker: The newspapers aren't necessarily the point where everyone goes for news the way they used to be, but it is, you know, there's still a media and they have to play the game. pump it out on social media and do all that kind of shit.
Speaker: Yeah, yeah, yeah. But they're still trying to get money, like subscription money. So so ah so they have a, like i can go to Yahoo, whatever, and not pay. And like the local newspapers are trying to get money.
Speaker: So I think that probably turns some people off. And I guess they need revenue because they don't have as big newspapers to run the the print ad revenue in. Mm-hmm. The whole game is subscriptions now.
Speaker: Like, I don't know what you call it. Is it print media? What do you call print media when it's digital? No, it's print. I mean, it's print, but there's not as many eyes on it. So unless you're the New York Times, bro. Yeah, I'm guessing that maybe like, like for someone like us or me, what is it better that if some fan goes to shows like I thought that guy was great and post it and say shit, is that a better?
Speaker: Like ah a big time influencer would be better at this point. Like a young person who's like, I like this old fucker, dude. He's got titties and I fucking thought it was funny. Well, I ain't gonna have... That's true, actually, right now in my life. I got titties. I'm not gonna have it, dude. I did two sets. Well, no, I've done three sets this week. I flew in a little early and I don't have it.
Speaker: I don't have it this week. Fine. maybe but Maybe by Saturday I might i might have it, but i don't I don't feel it. What are you talking about? You know, dude. It. that no fucking um You know. You're a performer.
Speaker: I see. You're going to fail. Nah, it'll just be a lack lackluster. ah I'm not very good. So like it's got to be everything's got to be dialed in and then it looks like I really know what I'm doing. Uh-huh. Like i'm I'm up there like a composer dictating, just rolling with everything dictating. But if I'm not into it, I'm just up there kind of mean. Like I was I was kind of mean last night.
Speaker: Mm hmm. going after people that had no no i had no reason. they weren't like No one was being mean or aggressive or yelling. I was just like calling people old. theyre told I told them they're shitty audience.
Speaker: They were, actually. Wow, dude. They were laughing. i was It was funny, but like I was just like... And they they did not they did what they're supposed to do on the open mic that we had last night. i mean They saw like 15 people, you know not all dialed in. so Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker: Anyways, dude, that's what's up with me. just Just being a celebrity and trying to deal with it, you know? Trying to deal with life in the fast lane. So i got it's 5.05 here in St. Louis as of this recording. My show's at 8 o'clock.
Speaker: The 314 Showcase. Nice, dude. And what what which you need to do before? you need to get home, shower it up? I was smart, I'd fucking figure out what my set is, but i just can't do it. like i like I have to show up and and be thinking about it as I'm walking to the stage, my name's called.
Speaker: So yeah, may i mean a shot maybe a shower, I don't know. i don't I don't like to feel too clean when I'm taking the stage. How do you feel about that dude? Did you did you really get dolled up when you were going? that You don't, you want to, feel almost like the way you warm up in a athletic event where you don't want to feel like you just got that. i don't I don't like to feel like my hair is kind of wet, my face is, like the way you feel in the morning, I don't like that feeling.
Speaker: Yeah, I don't know, for comedy. I don't know what you yourself, you don't to look like a ah homeless, wretched idiot. But I but i also, i don't know, I just don't feel like, I don't feel like too made up is the is is how I feel comfortable.
Speaker: and Okay, fine. Jesus. Stay greasy. you keep pushing a shower on me, dude. Well, I don't know what you're going to do. I used to dress up for certain shows, bro. Big time. Dress up.
Speaker: Like costumes. Yeah, crazy shit. Tight pants. Fucking. Cucumber stuff.
Speaker: Yes, sir. Cucumber stuff. Fuck tight pants, dude. You're a pretty active lead man. That must that that sounds terrible. It was an era. It was like six months.
Speaker: No, I think about it. Everyone does tight pants as a lead man. like and all Through all areas of music. Mostly tight, right? ah Well, not really, but yeah. 70s rockers, tight pants. 80s, tighter. I guess like the grunge guys weren't doing tight pants. 2000s, nobody cared either.
Speaker: There was no more music in 2000. True that. So, okay, cool. Well, Maybe you can ad-lib something about Jensen Wang and you can, you know, mess with his last name a little bit and say, get it, get it, Wang, because he put his Wang in some pussy. He could be like a really terrible comic.
Speaker: Is that, is that, dude, I saw a comic. I'm not going to mention any names online make make some sort of joke like that. Is that how he pronounced it? i i I never even know. I thought it was like...
Speaker: I don't know how you pronounce it. I didn't think it was Wang. i thought it was Wong. But i I had a... i worked you You might have worked them too, but a guy that I worked with when I was doing that wireless network, Ricochet, but he also moonlighted at Bennett's, and his last name was Wong, but it was W-O-N-G, Bill Wong.
Speaker: That's how a Costa Rican or a Spanish-speaking person would pronounce his last name would be like Wong. like Because the J, is we don't say J, we say Wah. Yeah, but we worked with a girl. She wasn't, she, Chong was her first name. Remember Chong?
Speaker: Chong Barnes? Yep. Yeah, I wonder what she's up to. I bet you she looks the exact same, don't you think? She was very, she was, she was like 25 years older than us and looked our age.
Speaker: Yeah, I bet you she's the same. Mm-hmm. Just like sprinting. She might be 70 now. I know. I literally know. She was, she was, that girl could work though. Let me repeat that. Cause I like that phrase. I literally know how fucking stupid.
Speaker: Yeah, dude, you're bombing too. We're both bombing today. We're bombing, bombing. All right. What do what do you get out of the the video thing? Do you get any sense of, I told you so just like all these fucking losers that, that are, that are basically trying to control our futures or all pieces of shit or nothing. You get nothing out of it.
Speaker: I think it's hard to be that popular and that powerful first. Not get laid. I'm sure it's pretty hard. There's just a lot coming at you. lot of stress, a lot of opportunity, bro. If you know what I mean, you know, bombing, just keep bombing. But that there's that. Then then there's the a type of personality that can do that type of job.
Speaker: Gotta be narcissistic. Gotta be about you and about making the greatest decisions and they all come from you. And so, You get that kind of action. i I don't care. i don't really feel like gotcha or anything like that, but I do like, I'm like, come on, every picture with that leather jacket on, bro.
Speaker: and yeah Yeah. I mean, that's gotta be some sort of like, that's gotta be some narcissism of some sort. Have you listened to him talk? A couple of times. I've heard, he didn't bother me too much, but a little too much of that tech CEO typo. like Yeah. that was that Any CEO actually generally a turn off listening to talk. but But ah yeah, I think it's funny because I did have one of our listeners is in China.
Speaker: And she mentioned something. Ah, man, she had a term for it. But it's basically like if you're what do you do in the event? Like they get trained on they work her and her husband work for like they're in foreign affairs and you get trained on basically what what you do if if you have some sort of thing with like espionage or a spy.
Speaker: and And I didn't even think about it a lot of it, it's like a Bond movie, but a lot of it is that way. It's like, send a woman in. Because that's how you that's ah you easily break a man down quickly. It's not like, you know, some some fucking James Bond type spy. just like, send some hot Chinese spy trim in. And that within like 10 minutes, the guy's like, here's all the secrets.
Speaker: For sure. And my guess is Jensen wasn't getting mad puss growing up. So he's- Yeah. He reached a point, a pinnacle, if you will, where the world opened up and he took advantage.
Speaker: And now he's out. ah What's interesting to me is the stock market just shrugs it off like, eh, Is that true? Because I thought NVIDIA plummeted a little bit off of the same. But it's not like down to zero. but It's just nothing like when I start first started investing, when stuff like this would come out, I just felt like people were punished.
Speaker: Like punished. And it just feels like a different world right now where people are like, put their hair there they just will not abandon stocks no matter what. I just think it's funny is the narrative what I've seen.
Speaker: If anyone doesn't know what we're talking about, the CEO of NVIDIA has now, i think twice, has has I don't know if he came out with it or i can' or it was forced to come out, but he's had a couple affairs and one of them was supposedly with a Chinese spy.
Speaker: Then the other one was just somebody in his office, I think, like an executive C-level woman. A subordinate, yeah. That's worse from a corporate governmentant from a corporate governance standpoint. Well, I was just going to say. No, no. From a like, ah just actually, can you continue to manage these people? oh yeah, yeah. That's tough. That spy thing is obviously way worse in terms of national security and other things. But yeah. or if it if it ever. Yeah. But it's funny that now all the narrative on it is just like this this scumbag having affairs. Yeah.
Speaker: Not like, oh, there's a lot of press about if, if AI, first of all, in the hands of good people could be a total, total mess for humanity. And then if our enemies get it and then you're like, this guy, that's a key figure in the AI world is just, just was fucking sleeping with a Chinese spy. No one's really talking about It's like, oh, that's, that could be, that could leave a mark, huh? I mean, I hope he said, uh, well, we, I talked about the board of directors and no one thinks it's ah that's like a big threat. It's like, I'm glad that you, you think that Jensen, but that that's fucked up. It's that easy. It's that easy.
Speaker: You know what a ah lot of guys are doing right now. They're looking up his wife to see if she's hot. Is she? I know you did. So tell me. Do some comparison. I didn't know. Bullshit, dude.
Speaker: You must have been busy today, though. A lot of meatheads are looking her up to see what she did wrong. And they want to give this guy a pass. Well, I think the... Because he's Jensen Wang.
Speaker: Him, Jensen and his wife are... i mean, they're not young, i don't think. I think he's Jensen Wang. Let's see. Look it up, bro. No, we don't. I 63. 63? Still got his... I'm proud of him as ah as a fellow big-nosed guy. He's got a honker on him. I like to see a big-nosed guy do well with the ladies, but ah but I think the jacket too much. Net worth. Guess what his net worth is, according to Forbes? 85 bill? 147 billion.
Speaker: Okay, bro. You think you'll be able to afford lawyers? All right. So he's Lori. Lori Hoang. Lori. They were married in 19.
Speaker: Oh, man. Lori. Did it to herself, huh? She's 65. Oh, so I don't know what all these other girls. I'm assuming the Chinese spy was probably young. I don't know. Anyways, it's it's a master. He's doing that.
Speaker: Your boy, uh, Musk, I think is withholding information, Starlink information for the Ukrainians. Meanwhile, Anthropic, I think is pressing on with their IPO.
Speaker: It's interesting, huh? Let me get on that. Yeah, you're gonna get on that? No, fuck all that. Yeah, why not? ah Pricing wars is maybe a reason not to right away. You think it's going well, i saw their pricing that between 70 and 78. I mean, I'm, I'm getting in at like 300 bucks, but like not, not my whole future, but like if I thought it would be priced way higher.
Speaker: No, I'm not talking about the stock price. I'm talking about the product pricing. I think they're going to come up against some, all of those AI, uh, brain labs, whatever they call AI labs. They're going to come up with some, uh, price competition.
Speaker: Yeah, i don't know. I just think you probably somebody's probably going to kind of come out of that ahead. It might be them, might be somebody else and i'm just throwing something at it. Well, I wouldn't put a lot if you're making them a bet. Who knows? you because What do you think? Why aren't you betting on AI? Whether you like it or not. I'm just saying like, doesn't it seem like that's the future, whether we like it or not? Well, we're all betting on AI if we're in the stock market because the S&P is 50% AI right now. But I'm saying Anthropics specifically, we don't know if that company will come through this and even exist. It's just a tough play.
Speaker: like you You didn't know Amazon went down, I think, 95% back in the day in the dot-com era. You wouldn't have known that that company was going to be what it is there's no way to know you might have put all your your bet on pets.com dude and then fucked bro and amazon was a piece of shit for like 20 years yeah like it's not ah i don't know if anyone realizes how old it is i know but no one held on to it through to the end probably like you think there's anyone who's like held on to amazon from whatever it was 95 all the way up to probably not not that many people yeah right but i will lance yeah you will
Speaker: If I were betting on, I would probably pick um up to five to 10. I'm more like 10. 10 companies did if I were doing individual stocks. But if you're just putting a little money in trying to hit a home run, fucking go for it.
Speaker: I'm just spreading around, you know, like being completely diversified of SpaceX that now, i now I'm anthropic completely risk, risk-proof hedged with those two.
Speaker: Google's down 30%. Might grab them, bro. That was a joke, bro. A joke. Oh, I know. Completely hedged with those two. Uh, yeah, it doesn't matter, dude. All right. That's our tech section. Yeah. Done. Sweet.
Speaker: So how's St. Louis? what's the weather like buddy let's put it on the pod it sucks yeah actually it was it was nice when i got it but now it's like gray it's getting i mean it's getting it's getting uh it's getting dark too dark to see it's it's i don't feel like i'm knocking on heaven's door though here it's it's 46 uh right now So yeah, we're getting in like the real shitty Midwest weather that doesn't really have a, like it's like 40s, 30s, no snow, just gray.
Speaker: that's That's happening. Looks like next week will be nice. It'll get the sun out. Let me ask an important question. Did you like GNR's version of knocking on heaven's door? Yeah.
Speaker: I don't know. compared to Compared to Dylan's or or like, ah I don't know comparatively which one's better. Well, probably his, but like when it came out, I wasn't that smart. I didn't know. i wasn't that educated. I didn't even know it wasn't theirs.
Speaker: Right. Did you? You were asking me like you didn't like it. You saw right through it. It's just one of those questions that people ask that you're just like, oh God, you shut the fuck up?
Speaker: what What part of GNR holds up for you? ah Civil War, that song. I knew you would go with Use Your Illusions too, dude. It's like your fight for Metallica. You claiming that Load and Reload are their best albums too? No, I didn't. No, I just, what I liked about... Civil War. See, that the Appetite for Destruction, all those songs, they're so played out. I've heard them so many times.
Speaker: Appetite as an album is is one of the best albums ever. It's a great album. I don't think you'd say that about Use Your Illusions. ah Well, no, of course not. But I'm just saying like Civil War, for whatever reason, fits into my sensibility of like a sort of alternative. And then like I like when things kind of cross over into that arena rock cheesy storytelling. It's just a personal thing. That's why I like Dio.
Speaker: I don't know if I don't know if Like Civil War, Axl, to me, it doesn't seem like the right guy to deliver me a political message. I feel like Rocket Queen was probably his best work. And it feels like he's the right guy to deliver Rocket Queen.
Speaker: Okay, but Civil War, his vocal worked. Doesn't matter what his personality is. I mean, Slash was not the right person to deliver virtually any song.
Speaker: I mean, civil should have been behind a bar. This is... The classic question is Civil War came out before or on Appetite. Would that be like what Sweet Child of Mine? or so Was it wast that good? It's just the order by that time. No. All right, you fucking spoiled brat. No, it's not that good of a song. It just fits the types of songs I like.
Speaker: A little cheesy? like you like a little yeah You're a Scorpions guy too. ah I will say we agreed on, for who what did we say? but Both of us thought For Whom the Bell Tolls was the best Metallica song.
Speaker: That's my favorite, yeah. Yeah, that was my right I thought that really captured the heavy metal, just just the heavy metal ah vibe in such a powerful way. Because like you you couldn't make that cheesy. It was just so well done. You could you you respect it all the time.
Speaker: I thought, yeah, it's just and it was pretty unique at the And and you don't you don't hear it that much, because it didn't it didn't hit quite as much as as when they got really commercially successful. So it's not played out as much as like whatever it was on that with that Black album.
Speaker: hmm enter sandman yeah but i think lies is a better album but ah i think lies is underrated lies is great the the version of you're crazy on lies awesome what else there's another one uh where he he says some slurs and stuff but and no biggie no biggie to you right uh ah I think it's your one in a million, one in a million, that song. Yeah, I think Slash was cool with it, who was whos black or half black. So so for me, then it was like, if Slash is cool with it, then um then I can be cool with it. That's what happened there.
Speaker: You know, it was also the 80s. He also dropped a F-A-G-O-T bomb in the song and an N-bomb. Yeah, no big deal. No big deal. Yeah. What in your high school year years, in your high school years, and and remember how easy it was to sort of tap the teenage emotion, what songs really, really got you?
Speaker: ah There was a couple, the the Beastie Boys. I thought the Check Your Head album, like for whatever reason, that resonated with me strong. But what did it do for you? Because Beastie Boys are sort of a or Well, they did have some anthem.
Speaker: it was just There's so much shit music out at the time, like terrible R&B, terrible rock. like you're talk I know you're going to be like, no way, but you're talking about the times of Queensryche. What's that band that Dave Holtis loves?
Speaker: ah Collective Soul. Collective Soul, shit like that. offense, Dave. Love you, buddy. Hope the sauce isn't popping. I still like that band. Terrible bands. no it's not they're not he's not They're not terrible. They're just mechanical. they're are they're like the yeah they're very they They stay in the pocket of exactly what they are. They don't they don't veer. well There was like this time in White white mute like I don't know. Faith No More and some of these bands. and i'm like this is It sounded like We mentioned it a few episodes ago, but it sounded like something played on the 90s version of KBPI that Willie B. Hung would be like, nah, faith no more, which is what happened. But I would say Tool, like not earlier Tool, I didn't like Tool at first, but then maybe like a little later, like in college, like Tool, I was just like, I realized these guys are like amazing at playing music besides besides all their...
Speaker: you know Whatever the guy sings about it's a little crazy, but Tool, you know that about me, dude. that I like Tool. Yeah, Tool. And then the grunge scene was great. Soundgarden. when you But I'm saying, what songs like tapped your...
Speaker: Rusty Cage, Bad Motor Finger. These are Tool songs? Outshine. Outshine is Soundgarden. I thought when I first start heard Outshine, I was like, this guy's a freak. Yeah, but that's about him. I'm talking about you, bitch.
Speaker: Well, I mean, I just like, there's a guy that's got talent and I can relate to that. That's what I felt when I, when I, so the first time I heard Soundgarden, I don't like that guy could sing like a maniac and, and, and bad motor finger. That first album was before they, cause they hit it too big too. And like, I think super unknown just got so big like black hole sun. And, but when I first heard bad motor finger, I was like, this is a new sound.
Speaker: Wow. ah So that outshined as was was like pretty sweet. And then I think the i mean the whole like Nirvana, Smells Like Teen Spirit, all that shit was was great.
Speaker: Yeah, i liked all that. It changed a lot, though, because I was, liked Guns N' Roses a lot, like middle school and in the high school. And then all that shit changed. I'm trying to think of what else. I mean, probably some rap, like some ah some of the ah chronic.
Speaker: I just thought the chronic just let us act like idiots and have fun with that. all that All that kind of shit, like whether we want to admit it or not. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's highly influential for for white kids in the suburbs.
Speaker: Mm-hmm. So, I don't know. Let me think. you You go. But I mentioned, like, five bands. You mentioned, like, it just was a smorgasbord of ideas that really didn't answer the question. i want What, you want, like, a song that made me fucking hard there something? money What want? Not hard. Well, it could be that. It could be sexualized. But, like, just, like, it made you pause and, like, you know, you're really...
Speaker: exhibiting that teenage emotion for me it's rooster ain't found to worry a way to kill me yet and that made you want to like fight or just no it just made me reflective and like wanting to understand more about the world and I guess, and just, it made me emotional. So I don't know when it was released.
Speaker: Maybe it it was probably after or right around. My dad was in Desert Storm and they're just like, I'm not even sure I connected with the lyrics in terms of what it was about. It is about is his dad in Vietnam.
Speaker: But I thought, yeah, but I just, the the vocal was so unique. Lane Staley is ah is a freak. It's just a really unique vocal. i never heard that but I never heard that style before, but I loved the the lyrics. I think Jerry Cantrell wrote those lyrics. and Yeah, Jerry Cantrell. guitarist. i like the sludge factory from the unplugged.
Speaker: Mm-hmm. he he's looked He sounded and looked so fucked up at that point, but which was ah which was good for the song. yeah Yeah, it was perfect for the song, but that is a good place to go. like if you If you want to wallow a little bit, that's a good song to just like fuck it you know feel like fuck everything. it's the The regular version of it's not as good nearly nearly as good as the acoustical one.
Speaker: Yeah, that one got me. And then, because I've always liked more intense type stuff. And then Jeremy. At home, painting pictures of mountain tops with him on top. And I was just like, what the fuck? And these when these are new and you've never heard them before, you're like...
Speaker: Boom. And I could just put that on repeat. Those two songs, a lot. I had a job where where I worked at H Breakers and I was a busboy. And I remember I'd always get home late and they'd like release video like new videos late at night. And I swear, like there's a bunch of videos. I'm like i'm probably the first person in the country that's seen this.
Speaker: like ah But I do remember seeing Evenflow. The sound was still unique at the time. And I was like, damn, this is this is pretty sweet. But now I just feel like hu Pearl Jam is good, but I just feel like it's like, this feels like ah almost like a Coldplay type, some band for middle-aged white women or something. Well, it got diluted with so many copycats. All of those did. They just, I mean, were years and years kind of- Because he's the only one that lived, so it's like kind of pulsified him because all the other guys died. my son It's not his fault. It's not his fault. I know. He's fine. I just like, come on. It just got a little soft because of that. Well, he got a little too-
Speaker: political and I remember like, uh, I was in pro I don't know maybe health class, maybe our senior year or junior year and some girl in the class. I don't remember her at all. Like, like her, her, her name or anything, but she just went to see Pearl Jam at, at, uh, the, the field house, the CU field house.
Speaker: And she was like in class talking about, uh, what's his name? Uh, the lead singer. Fucking Eddie Vedder. Eddie Vedder. And she's like, and Eddie was doing poetry about walruses. And that was like the beginning of the end for me.
Speaker: It was just so like, like it was like a normal teenage girl that gets like swept or a guy, but swept up in some way. You're like, ah, this is ridiculous. Maybe she looks back at herself and like, what a fucking tool I was, you know? Yeah, but but i don't, I can't stand people. And by that, I mean, in just a, in a jovial way that like, they cannot latch on to the thing that is obviously good and popular for a reason.
Speaker: And they have to go to like, oh, i'm fucking fuck that dude. I like Leonard Cohen and fucking Tom Waits. And you're like, really? Just trying to prove that they're a little more intellectual than everybody else. um I just don't like that personality. I mean, i don't, I like that personality. I don't. That's me probably. I don't understand it. Just fucking say you like Jeremy.
Speaker: Jeremy Spogger. Everybody likes Jeremy. I do remember ah that, maybe the Alive or what that other song on ten and and then a few a few like a few other songs, but I do remember that crazy party at the Daily the da Brothers house.
Speaker: where where everyone was like singing along probably like 200 people in their two-bedroom apartment and the floor was like moving up and down i'm pretty sure like we we were responsible for that oh yeah and it was before homecoming but i remember like the whole fucking school it seemed like was there screaming screaming and uh that was that was pretty fun and i um i do i also remember one of our this guy do you remember mark mark moon Uh-huh. He just moved from Texas, I think. And I met him like over the summer because he played baseball with us. But I just remember his the next day or something, my mom sat next to his mom at the football game. And I got home. My mom was like, what happened last night? Mark's mom was saying that that was the best party he's ever been to in his whole life or something like that. And I was like...
Speaker: dude those daily brothers they were fucking cool i mean they were funny and and goofy and but they were some cool kids they were freaking out on you at that party and you were like you remember that because they were freaking out their house was gonna break like after a while and they had every right to because it looked like it was coming down but i remember you were like no respect me you were kind of like joking around but you were being a dick you remember this I always mess with the the younger one. Lance, we need to get everyone to calm down. You're like, no, respect me first.
Speaker: The younger one was always, he's kind of intense, a little freak. Is he the funny one? Yeah. no Yeah. The younger one I thought was the one who, like when we were graduating, he's like, i'm I'm taking over for Lance. He was like, I'm going be the fucking crazy person around here.
Speaker: And then the other one with the long blonde hair was like a little more reserved. Yeah. He had to take care of the household probably. take care of the household those kids are funny man that's funny that party was uh i don't even i think we were like not drinking either because we were like yeah we shouldn't be drinking right now since we got games and stuff it was a pretty fun party but that's the one at one mute like a music related thing where where i just remember everyone like exploded with high school energy which is cool let me say this because it's important
Speaker: i did not respect the chili peppers back then and i grew to love them later because they actually wrote real hits later that i liked a ton so yeah i never i got no problems with them but i'm not like whenever i hear them like nothing happens i don't know why yeah i don't know but it's not bad it's i don't like turn it off but i'm never i've never like really been ah chili peppers this or that um I like the songwriting from... Yeah, I think it's unique too. 2000 plus, yeah. They're their own sound.
Speaker: What's your take on U2? At one point it tapped my emotion. I think I haven't listened to in a long time if I go back to those original songs. The early stuff is great. and then yeah But when we were in high school, what it like? Maybe a little more poppy? Yeah.
Speaker: It's also, though, again, it's one of those bands that has been imitated so much in terms of sort of the, you know, that unique driving guitar, no solo, but we're just going to layer in effects. It's all, it's been copied so much that the sound,
Speaker: sort of been diluted like a Pearl Jam with bands like Collective Soul and Creed or whoever. It just gets so diluted and you go back to it and you go, oh man, this wasn't as unique as I thought. But the truth is it was incredible at first. the time. Yeah, if you could get all the other bullshit out of your head, you could go back and really get that emotion going. I thought The Who, which wasn't our era, but if you go listen to The Who, some of the songs they had, like, I mean, talk about creativity.
Speaker: Oh yeah. Real theatrical, but hard too, at the same time. Yeah. it's it's kind of weird. Like all those, all those bands in that era were theatrical. You probably relate to Pete Townsend though, with the honker.
Speaker: Pete Townsend, another big... I never know it to be that big, but you think he's repping? Roger Daltrey is me. oh yeah. Townsend's, like, got the length on the nose.
Speaker: Yeah. He's a genius, brah. Which is the guy that had all the child porn? Was that Daltrey or... Probably Daltrey, the guy looks like you. Daltrey was married and very reserved. Oh, that's never stopped anyone, dude. No, he was very... I think he had to be very into family.
Speaker: He's got an interesting look now. Daltrey. There he is. He's 82. Fuck. I know. I'm going to look it up, dude. These are things we don't want to hear about, but somebody in The Who ah had some... He probably got got away with it.
Speaker: Yeah. Yeah. Probably. Probably. Because I think the British like a little pedo stuff, don't they? Pete Townsend, The Who's guitarist is arrested. That's 2003. For drugs? Yeah. for drugs No, it says, i don't know, this is super old. This is from 2003. says he has used internet site advertising child pornography, but he said he had, sorry, i don't know if I can see this because it's the New York Times.
Speaker: He, whatever, like kind of denied it. ah yeah he He would welcome a police invocation as computer to absolve him of any suspicion of being a pedophile. I think we're good, dude.
Speaker: We're good. Yeah, he's he's not. um But Tommy, what a great album, right? He's not. ah Yeah, I mean, all their shit is is really good. Still holds up, too. They don't seem like they get quite as much respect. I guess they get a lot of respect, but they're not held in the same regards like The Beatles or Zeppelin or Pink Floyd.
Speaker: Yeah, I think they're they're like a a smart man's version of The Stones. Wow. Don't you think? Yeah, but I'd hate to say that.
Speaker: I don't know. The Stones are their own beast for like longevity and everything. and I know, but if if you were to like, a lot of crossover, but if you were to like take the type of person in that era, I think, that would gravitate more towards the Stones or to the who, I'm just going to say you're looking at maybe a little little bit higher IQ, like 10 IQ points.
Speaker: Don't you think?
Speaker: Yeah, you're right, dude. You got me. ah Yeah, i don't know. I mean, there's some... I think the problem is like the Stones are so good at writing just like good, catchy rock that it's hard to be like, oh, it's super smart, I think, cause it's so good. Does make sense? It's like... you know like Are you going to write a like a smart political song that's so catchy? and that beat That might be hard to do. People do it. But like...
Speaker: ah I just think that the Stones are so good. I will say back to our earlier, earlier conversation, a lot of the, these, this type of stuff that we're talking about probably hit me harder than some of the stuff that came out while we were in, in the nineties. Like some, I still listen to all these bands. They hit you later?
Speaker: No, they hit me at the time. Okay. Well, let's move to today. Now, music, does it feel the same? And then if it does, like what songs are really? It's so easy now. Like ah yeah you get any song, you just type it in. Like, I want to hear that. Just type it in.
Speaker: I know, but what songs have you had on repeat over and over? like what ah Almost every time I get my car, I listen once. I start with Neil Young's Harvest Moon. Harvest Moon? Like every time. Yeah.
Speaker: And my kids like it now, too. It's like our warm-up, get in the Harvest Moon. I still listen to reggae, Marley ah a lot. i listen to I listen to Harvest Moon and the song Crisis.
Speaker: by Bob Marley every time I get my car, almost. I'm not kidding. Wow. Does this look like a guy who's joking? The answer is no. I recommend it to everyone.
Speaker: If if whatever whatever the crisis is, ah listen to that song. You'll feel better afterwards. Really? Yes. You might not... ah give Ja all the thanks and praises, but whatever you want to do with it, do it.
Speaker: So I listen those two songs all the time. And then if I, I will listen to like birth of cool, I'll listen to Miles Davis a lot. Um, and then, that and then I'll just put a song in whether it's, it's, and then just not on Spotify and it'll say radio. So it'll be like harvest moon radio. And then I'll just let it, let it go from there. Wow. Unique.
Speaker: Way to play the game. I'm just saying I'm not choosing it. but Way to go after Spotify features. I think I beat Spotify, didn't I? Oh, God, dude. what What about you? Is it still all counting crows till you die?
Speaker: No, harder for me to listen to that. um Right now, I just kind of pick, find a band that I overlooked usually or a new band. you're not You're not rolling with your kids anymore either, so they're not.
Speaker: Right. My kids are still so putting this on. Right now, i'm Death Cab for Cutie. Do you know that band? Are you kidding? I'm not kidding. um Like they have some deep tracks, bro.
Speaker: What's their hit? ah Soul Meets Body probably. I don't know that, but if I heard it, I would. I will possess your heart, probably. Oh, yeah, you've heard it. Oh, what's that? Is that Defq?
Speaker: I will understand or something like that.
Speaker: You know this. You'll know. Listen to his voice. It's one of a kind.
Speaker: Dude, I've never heard this song in my life. I'm not trying to be cool. is that Was that like a pop hit? They were like mid- Sorry. They were like mid-tier. ah Maybe a little higher in mid-tier for a while there. Is that the thing I would understand? Is that them?
Speaker: I don't think so. No, but the it the dude's voice is interesting. And they write very appealing, interesting stuff. Like it's all sort of appealing and in terms of the ear.
Speaker: Step outside the... What is that song? I would understand. And I would understand. Yeah, what is that?
Speaker: That's not them. and I will understand I don't know that whole that whole genre there late 90s when I was like in Boulder and then up in the mountains I kind of tuned out of all that stuff and I'm glad be honest with you um let's see but Death Gap for cubi Cutie is that when were they when were they popular?
Speaker: Two 2010s. Oh, really? Oh, yeah. Oh, you're talking about, I couldn't sing it because the guy's voice is so high. I wasn't trying to sing it. But Jumper from Third Eye Blind, that's like, that's back in college, bro.
Speaker: Yeah. That's not Death Cab for Cutie. I wish you'd rigged my alt that lage, my friend. are they British? Well, he tried to sound British.
Speaker: like Like Green Day. I remember you and I ripping on Green Day a lot. we We never had any respect for Green Day. Later I did, too. But yeah, I don't i don't know.
Speaker: I remember somebody I worked with at back, I don't know why, two stories about H. Rinkers fucking chained me up. It's too, too many, but that I remember a guy was like, you're not going to another busboy, you're not going to Green Day concert? I was like, no, who's Green Day?
Speaker: He's like, you kidding? It's fucking punk band, it's gonna be awesome. And I'm like, i don't know what you're talking about, dude. And he was like, Corey. He was like, oh, dude, you're missing out.
Speaker: Man, you did miss out properly. Do you know who... Try a fun concert. Sure. Do you know who Noah Kahn is right now? Um... I...
Speaker: I know the name, I think. Do you know? I couldn't name a song, but that that's like and that's like an Ed Sheeran type guy, something like that? No. Have you you heard of Mumford & Sons? Yeah.
Speaker: Okay. It's kind of like them, but he's so popular right now, and he's good. me wrong. He writes good songs, but a lot of it is because people are following because he's super open with his mental health issues.
Speaker: I think you're saying he's super hot. it's it's created this huge fan base bunch of sad sacks of shit going and he's filling Fenway like double concert double night or two night concerts at Fenway i dude it's like I don't get it because the songwriting it doesn't reach far enough outside of the Mumford and Sons universe was he in that band no I don't know not that he went solo but it's like a hipster band no it's like a what you'd call like a folk rock sound it's like oh there was a band i did like it was actually the the the last band my wife and i actually agreed on i think it was ah in that oh man what it you just triggered something great i thought it was great it was a band like that though if i say the name you'll know him yeah well it's good good content to watch you stumble over your fucking words bro
Speaker: once you fire. Gloria, Gloria. Booze and peppermint. Gloria. Oh, Lumineers? Yeah. That's in the same same genre, isn't Yeah, that's in the same genre. A little, yeah. Do you like that band? Fuck yeah.
Speaker: Hell yeah. Love that band. Love them Loved Mumford & Sons. I don't care when bands get popular and then I have dickheads who come out. Oh, fuck Mumford & Sons. Fuck Dave Matthews. Fuck, fuck, fuck you. That's me, bro. That's me all the way. I'm like, hey, fuckface. They're good, okay? They're very good. It's just the people People ruin it, dude. Yeah, okay, fine.
Speaker: Fine. So now I have to go like some band. I don't know. have to go back and like say that Dishwalla was my favorite band. There was like a, there's a thing that happens and I, and I'm just like the guy. Yeah. Dishwalla. Counting blue cars. and They, they, they got ruined by pussies. Dishwalla. Huh? Come on, dude. No, I don't remember counting blue cars, but, uh,
Speaker: You like the there's like ah what happens is it just becomes too white and then it just turns into this white like Dave Matthews just becomes this like you mean sorority ass white white fucking thing. Yeah, I don't know. Mumford and Sons just became a fucking beard. ah i love I love jokes that involve like I don't think people are doing them, but involve.
Speaker: mumpert and sons would you find this guy at to fucking mumpert and sons concert it's always a great joke which even uh jump street 21 jump street the the sad sad thing is you're gonna find the exact same crowd at a so-called artistic at a rush concert you're gonna find not quite that but like david byrne for example you're gonna find that same type of crowd And David Byrne, I think, is one of the talking heads, dude. But one of the more creative human beings around. I think talking talking heads might be top three bands for me. Yeah, so good. They're up there for me. But like you're going to see that same crowd of people who like to ah can spend money on these concerts and and like to get a little toked and fucking act like clowns in a safe way.
Speaker: it's it's It's kind of rich white people, basically. Did you ever make it to a Lumineers concert? Yeah, I have. They're good. Are they good live? Great. Are they still together? Is it, are they still together? Is there like someone left the band or something? think the cellist left, but you can replace that. I'm sure it was like shitty beards and they kind of look like a bluegrass band or something like some look like that forever tiny desk type look.
Speaker: Who? The Lumineers, like I just have a vision. ah i never even saw those, i don't know what they look like. they Them, Lumineers, Mumford & Sons, I have the vision of all, like people that I used to run into in Nashville all the time. Like you go out to a bar, be like an amazing band every night, everywhere, but it'd all be like half the band would have these fucked up beards and and the flannel shirts and that era of like sort of bringing grunge understated yeah country grunge or something like that that but of course i was in nashville from in oh five oh six to oh eight that was kind of the peak of that isn't that like when the mumford and sons were doing their thing i'd say in new balance running shoes with the with the plaid shirt from lucky come on yeah 2012 14 probably oh yeah so it's you know all that to me it's like fuck that shit
Speaker: I feel you, bro. I feel you. You're just going back and listening to Black Sabbath, paranoid, fucking getting respect. So that's good stuff, man. Well, I know you got to go, man, but good talk.
Speaker: That was a good talk. I need I feel like I'm back in the zone.
Speaker: a piece of shit. Ooh, I'm a piece of shit.
