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Match Previews: Inter-Roma and Lazio-Juventus (Ep. 36)
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Inter vs. Roma: Key Players Missing?
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Hello everybody and welcome back to another preview episode of the Serie A show as per usual. I am joined by Chloe and Nima and we will be discussing two of the bigger matches this match day. We have Inter hosting Roma tonight at the San Siro and then we also have at the weekend we have Lazio playing host to Juves. So two very appetizing matches that really we hope will be entertaining. I had much higher hopes for Roma though.
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Nima, before I learned that Jekyll, who missed the last few days of training due to a fever. He did come back yesterday, took part, but it was just more of a walkthrough session. And then just a couple of hours ago, it was learned Paul Lopez, the starting goalkeeper of Roma, will more than likely miss the match. And I just had somebody from Roma about an hour ago tell me 80% likely that Paul Lopez,
00:02:33
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does not play. So, Roma's best attacker, Roma's new goalkeeper who has been sensational, absolutely sensational this season, both may not take part in the match. So that certainly changes my feelings coming into this one. From your standpoint, and from an entered perspective, I should say, how do you think they're feeling coming into this one?
Impact of Missing Players
00:02:59
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Yeah, I think you're absolutely right. I think it does change a lot because I was also, as I said on the midweek episode of the pod, I favored Roma a lot going into this game. But having said that, there's talk of Lukaku being out with a flu as well and that he might miss the game as well. There's nothing official. As always, if they don't reply or respond when these things happen.
00:03:24
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when they just put the lid on, they just try to suffocate the whole thing. So, I don't know, it depends. I mean, I definitely think that Paulo Lopez not playing, he weakens Roma, but Marchetti is a good, not Marchetti, what's his name, Mirante, is a good replacement. I think he showed that last season that he can do that just for like one or two games.
00:03:58
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Roma are a good team away from home. They play really good football and it's a team that doesn't suit Inter, Inter struggle against teams, at least so far under contract against teams that play the way, the style that Roma do. Chloe, from your perspective, I and Nima, we both think it draws most likely. So just from a more neutral perspective, what do you think about this one?
00:04:14
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I do think that it will be close. I still think that a draw is the likeliest outcome.
Predicted Draw Outcome
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I think I'm inclined to agree with a draw mainly for the reason that it's
00:04:30
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It's an easy thing to say when it's really difficult to predict what's going to happen. Oh, you're calling us cowards, come on. Well, you know, it is the most logical thing to say because these teams are quite different in the way that they approach things. And then so you don't really know what will happen when the two of them join together. They're both good at different things. They're both good in their own right.
00:04:59
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you know, would either of you be surprised if either of the other team wins? Probably not because I think they're both capable of winning so it is a really really difficult one to predict and I think because there's probably
00:05:18
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quite a lot at stake then maybe they would both teams would be happy with a draw whereas neither team will be happy with a defeat so yeah i think i think all in all you're right but i wouldn't i wouldn't bet against some kind of surprise because i think both teams are capable now nima do you have any worry that
Inter's Focus Amid Upcoming Games
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Inter could look past Roma and we all know this crucial, pivotal, whatever word you want to describe it as, Champions League match against Barcelona coming up on Tuesday. Is there any fear from your perspective or any worry from your perspective that they could potentially have their eye on that one more than this one against Roma?
00:06:03
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Absolutely not, because it's Antonio Conte. He doesn't know how to do that. He cannot function. He goes into every challenge as if his life depended on it. So there's no way that that can happen. If Anders Faletti or other intercoaches, I would say yes, but not with this man. He does not know what that means. It doesn't exist in his vocabulary. Every single game, whether it's
00:06:30
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Provercelli, Roma or Barcelona, he goes in with the attitude that he wants 110% and everyone has to fight until they drop dead pretty much. That's the mentality that he's brought in. So I'm not worried about that at all. I think Juventus fans will remember when Juventus Stadium was hosting the Europa League,
00:06:50
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They wanted to win the Europa League because the final was hosted at their stadium. Konta decided to play with the strongest team the week before. I think it was against Kalyari or a struggling Kalyari. It's something like that. I have to say, Nima, there is a certain somebody in my life that supports me.
00:07:11
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but tell him sorry and honestly once a month he's still angry about it. I know he is, I know you're talking about him here, I think it was last week he told me about that again and he hasn't forgiven Antonio Conte since then and I can understand that but that is Conte in a nutshell and it is Antonio Conte in a nutshell he does not know how to do that and it's and it is frustrating when you're on when it goes too far but here is he's exactly what Inter need. Inter need to go
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into this game with that attitude.
Playing Styles: Inter vs. Roma
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Because Roma are no pushovers, Roma are... I don't think people take Roma as seriously as they deserve, which is just a good thing for Roma and Paolo Fonseca. So I'm definitely worried about Roma, but Conte won't allow any of this to happen.
00:08:03
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is it really is a clash of styles. Conte more than willing to let his side sit back, hit you on the counter, whereas Paulo Fonseca, I mean he says time and time again, I want my team to hold the ball, we want to be proactive, we want to be attacking.
00:08:21
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For me, that's why this one is just so difficult to predict because you have two teams on opposite side of the playing spectrum where, again, Conte, he couldn't care less about gifting you possession. That doesn't bother him in the slightest. So, Chloe, is that something that could really harm one or the other because they're just so
00:08:46
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The way these two teams play is so dramatically different, which is why I find this so incredibly interesting. Yeah, that's exactly why I think this will be so fascinating and why it is so hard to predict.
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with two very opposite philosophies. You don't know which one's gonna come out
Midfield Battle: Roma's Chances
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on top. And I think that's why everyone should tune in and watch this match because it's just as much a clash of ideologies as a clash between two of the top teams in the league. I just think it's fascinating. And Will, like you say, Conte doesn't care about the possession. He only wants to win.
00:09:30
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How is he going to, I mean, he always tends to play the same way. How will Romer sort of counter that and how will Fonseca set up his team? Is he going to go all out attack right from the first minute and try and get on top or, you know, what's going to happen? I'm just really looking forward to it.
00:09:50
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the midfield of Icter really going to be pushed over these next couple of matches because they are very thin there. Is that an area of the pitch though where you think Roma could potentially exploit them because I would say Diawara, Veritu are
00:10:09
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One of the main reasons why they've had success over the last well deal what I just returned from injury, but Against Verona that both of them were Phenomenal you could easily make the case that both of them should have been the man of the match Do you think that's one area that aroma could potentially exploit?
00:10:29
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That's exactly the area of the pitch that I'm scared of, because the fact that we're interplaying with probably Borja Valero and Matias Vasino and not Sensi and Barella, who I think would be ideal to face this Roma team. That's what I meant when I said earlier that I think Roma plays in a way that the style of play that they play hurts. And then because it's not just the Diabara and Barretu, then you have Zagnolo and
00:10:56
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Luca Pellegrini who's channeling his inner Francesco Totti right now. He's absolutely fantastic.
00:11:04
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Um, and, and he's, uh, is it Lawrence or Luca? I always
Borja Valero's Fitness Concerns
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get them mixed up. Lawrence. Sorry, Lawrence. I didn't want to interrupt you. No, I'm glad you said, no, I always get those two mixed up. I, it's, it's, it's just like, Oh, I don't know. Nevermind. I should not want to say to him. I know it's Lou is Lorenzo Pellegrini. Yeah. You know, which one I mean anyway, but then you have Lorenzo Pellegrini and zanyolo, uh, who, who, who will, who will definitely hurt. And then on the bench, you have changes in there. You have Mickey Tarion. No, this is, uh,
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That's where Roma are really strong, and that's where Roma will hurt you. Yeah, I mean for me, the one particularly Verityu, I mean his work rate above all has been the most impressive thing for me. I'm sure Chloe can add more to that about how he was for Fiorentina. But I think him sort of being the runner in the midfield with the absences that Conte has,
00:11:59
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I wonder how you match that because you just mentioned Borja. I mean, the poor guy, while he doesn't, he hasn't lost that technical ability. I mean, there's just moments where you see him out there where I just want to throw him on my back and run around for him. Yeah, pretty much. Yeah. Borja, I feel, you know, he doesn't, he looks really old. And just as a side note,
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he's shaved off the beard and he looks really old. He looks like he's on his deathbed at times during games. He's panting for breath. No, it doesn't look good. It's not a good fit. I like the guy. I think he has so much football in him. But I think Chloe said that he was out of
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his legs were gone when Valentina sold them. They were, they were. He didn't have a season where he was clearly finished and then Inter bought him. Yes, Spalletti bought him. And I think Spalletti did right because he needed that kind of a player and he did pretty well in the first season for Inter. And he's a very loyal team player and he's a good character to have around the dressing room. Yeah, I agree. So I think that he's been a very loyal servant everywhere he's been to every club he's been to.
00:13:17
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And for me, it's just very telling that people love him in Florence. They love him everywhere, because he has a very positive personality and everything about him. But yeah, this poor guy is going up against Diabara and Veratou, and then Zagnolo.
00:13:34
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I don't know. Is there like a charity we can give to? It's just mean. It's just really mean. So I hope he doesn't play. There's now rumours coming that Asamuwa might join Brozoric and Vicino. And that, I think, is a smarter thing. That would be a better idea, in my opinion. Yeah, mine too. Because Borka...
00:14:02
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He doesn't have the physique, he doesn't have the pace. Yeah, I agree.
Lazio vs. Juventus Match Preview
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Okay, let's move to Lazio Juve. I apologize that we spent, this is probably going to end up being a 20-minute podcast, or I should say a 20-minute episode. I apologize that we did not move to Lazio sooner.
00:14:19
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My condolences to the Laziali ahead of time that are listening to this, but there should be another one. I'm not trying to coward my way out of making like a prediction. I think predictions are stupid to begin with, but truly this one between Lazio and Juve,
00:14:37
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I have no idea what to expect from this. I mean, so much of me says that Inzagi has sort of gotten like his demons off his back this season, I guess, so to speak, because he's gotten so much better results. And after a bit of a shaky start to the season, they finally have found balance. They found consistency.
00:15:02
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Melinkovich Savage, I think, has performed brilliantly. He's been very good as of late. I just feel like, and I could ultimately look like an imbecile for saying this, but I feel like this could be one of those matches where if Lazio lose, it could be one of those things where it sort of snowballs out of control. Because I'm just so used to that happening for Inzaki. We have not seen
00:15:30
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those contained consistent results from him. He'll go on a great run like they're on now and we just wait for them to trip up and it just sort of snowballs from there. Does anybody else have that feeling or is it just me?
00:15:42
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Yes, yes, I have that feeling, definitely. But on the other hand, I do think that if Lazio surprise us and pull off a win against Juve, let's face it, they've done it before. Yes, they have. If they beat Juve and if they win the following match as well, I will hold my hands up and I'll say, I think Inzaghi has overcome his inconsistency issues.
00:16:10
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However, I just have the feeling like you, John, that this could be the moment where it starts to unravel. It almost seems too good to be true at the moment. And I think, I don't think anyone can really blame us for that. So don't at us on Twitter.
00:16:29
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Or if you do, write a song about me and Chloe, we're kind of jealous. Yeah, we haven't got a song, come on. We've got no songs, yeah. No, Lazio have shown this kind of thing before and we're only going off previous form and previous experience with them. So, you know, you can't blame us. That's my final word.
00:16:53
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Well, we know that Ciro Immobula is going to score a goal because that's what he does this season. I mean, his stats are absolutely mental, the way he scores. And he's really peaking. He's reaching his peak as a player. And I think he should be respected. I'm not going to underestimate him anymore. That's for sure. So I'm thinking he's going to score. But I do think that you are going to win. And I think that after what happened last week against Asuolo, Juventus, I feel bad for Lazio going into this game.
00:17:22
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because they're going to meet a Juve that are hungry that are next week in the Champions League. They have absolutely nothing to play for, having won the league. Exactly. Yep. Good point. So this is the one that they're going to give it to Lazio, everything they have. They're going to attack them from the first minute. And this is exactly like both of you alluded to, kind of, that this is a test for Inzagi and Lazio to see if they can get something out of this game. Maybe not win, but a draw and withstand.
00:17:51
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the attack that I think that Juventus are going to have and the pressure that Juventus are going to put
Immobile's Form and Lazio's Consistency
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them under. It's going to be very interesting and I think it's going to be an open affair in the sense of goal-wise. But I do think that you will win something like 3-2 or 4-3. I expect spectacular from this game. I really do. Are you expecting goals as well, Chloe?
00:18:13
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Yeah, I think so. I think you may have consistently scored and conceded this season. And you know, Laxio like to score goals too. So I'd be very surprised if we didn't see quite a few goals and quite a few twists and turns in this game.
00:18:28
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I think in the past, Immobile has been very much a guy who can score a load of goals against smaller sides, but not so much against the bigger sides. If you look at his track record, you'll see that pattern.
00:18:43
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I think he is getting stronger and I will be interested to see if he can actually score and if he can do it in the very biggest of maps like that when Lazio are flying high. Then again, I think if he does, I think you have to say that he is going to earn the Cabo Canoneira this season. I mean, he's so far in front already.
00:19:13
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So it will be interesting to see how he reacts as well, I think. Yeah, I think so too.
Immobile's Future: Stay or Move?
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Before we go, just real quick, I saw this debate happening on my timeline and every time Immobile goes on a really strong run of performances and goal scoring like he has this season, he's been absolutely incredible. I always see this debate pop back up as to whether
00:19:33
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he's ready or has matured since he had the issues in Germany and Spain and if he really is ready for that sort of big move to I don't know name whatever club you would like I see this debate pop up often and I think we've given our opinions on this before
00:19:50
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But I guess let's just rehash it again. I think, or at least I believe, and I'm going to hypothesize that all of us are of the opinion that the marriage between immobile and Lazio is about as perfect as you can get, and that immobile would be insane to try and have his hand at doing this again, of making the big jump.
00:20:14
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I made this comparison and many, you know, said I was off base, but I truly think he's like Toto de Natale in the sense that you just find a place and a player that match up so well that there's no reason to break it up. Yeah. Is that how you two feel about him? Or do you think he has shown enough in these last few seasons where nobody is denying his goal scoring track record? Do you think he is ready to try his hand again at making the big jump?
00:20:44
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No. And I think he knows it too. And I think he knows it too when he said that he wants to retire at Lazio. That to me shows that he's a very intelligent and self-aware person. It's not about quality. It's about the fact that he has always been a goal scorer. There's no doubt about that. But to be a number nine at Juve Milan, ITER, the biggest, biggest teams, you need something else. And many have failed.
00:21:15
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And he just doesn't have those qualities. And I think that at this point in his career, he's 29 years old. He's scoring loads of goals. There would be no reason for him to risk anything. I think he should stay at Lazio. Lazio is a big club. It's maybe not the biggest, the top, top, top, biggest clubs, but it's a big club. Playing there, he gets to play in Europe. He gets the challenge for trophies, Coppa Italia, Super Coppa, et cetera.
00:21:41
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I think he would be wise to stay there because I think his career would be much more successful, whatever is left of his career, if he stays at Lazio, then if he goes to a Juve or a Rinta or a Milan or even an Apoli, which some people have talked about. Yeah, I agree. And you only have to look at how he plays for Italy to see that if you change the variables, even a little bit, that he doesn't perform on quite the same level as he does for his club.
00:22:12
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It's a perfect fit for him there and I just don't want, you know, I just, I think like Nima says, I think he knows that and I think he'd be very, very sensible to stay put.
Episode Wrap-up & Milan's Interest in Paolo Souza
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So this episode will likely be out a couple of hours before the match begins. So everything we're saying here could be rendered pointless within just a couple of hours and after the match ends you'll be able to throw our predictions in our face. The way this is working out is fantastic. We'll be publishing this.
00:22:47
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It'll be the match and then everyone can call us idiots all within a span of a few hours So the timing of this could could not have been any better. So just before we go I just want to say a rumor that came that somebody tagged me in on Twitter and I just want to leave our listeners with this thought that AC Milan were considering a coach and
00:23:12
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to take them forward starting from next season. And the name of that coach is Paolo Souza. Oh my word. I'll just leave you with that thought.
00:23:25
Speaker
Oh, okay. Well, I don't want to end it on more of a, that was already a negative note. I don't want to edit on a further negative note. So Milan fans, uh, I'm sorry for the way Chloe just rained on your, rained on your Friday, late afternoon slash evening. But, um,
00:23:49
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We'll see. Who knows? I mean, after Pioli, I mean, wow, the talking points Milan could give to us would be never ending. So who knows? So we'll be back with the results after the weekend. Thank you so much for listening and until next time. Bye bye.