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What Would You Do: Luckiest Girl Alive
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This week is another What Would You Do episode. This time, Brook and Sarah discuss Luckiest Girl Alive by Jessica Knoll. It’s crime fiction, but is it a mystery?
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Luckiest Girl Alive (2015) Jessica Knoll
Luckiest Girl Alive (2022) Netflix
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Introduction to Clued in Mystery Podcast
00:00:10
Speaker
Welcome to Clued in Mystery. I'm Sarah. And I'm Brooke, and we both love mystery. Hi Brooke. Hi Sarah, how are you doing today? I'm great, how are you?
00:00:22
Speaker
I'm good. I'm good.
What Would You Do Episode Format
00:00:24
Speaker
We have a what would you do episode today. We do. And this one is, uh, different than the other ones that we've done because there's a TV adaptation as well as a book, uh, that I think we might end up talking about. Um, but I think before we start, we should warn listeners that, uh, you know, we are going to be talking in greater detail than we typically do. So there may be some spoilers.
00:00:52
Speaker
Yeah, so I'll start us off with a little summary of the story.
Introducing 'Luckiest Girl Alive' by Jessica Noll
00:00:57
Speaker
Luckiest Girl Alive is the debut novel of cosmopolitan writer and editor Jessica Noll. It was released in 2015 as a psychological thriller, although I'm not convinced there are a lot of mystery elements in the story, and maybe we'll address that in our conversation later. It was recently produced as a Netflix original movie, as Sarah mentioned.
00:01:20
Speaker
Before I start with the plot summary, I would like to note that both the book and movie descriptions fail to warn audiences that it contains potentially triggering events. So please note that the story contains scenes of sexual assault, physical abuse, bullying, harassment, homophobia, and gun violence. If any of these topics are triggering for you and you opt not to listen today, we completely understand.
Protagonist Tiffany Ani Fanelli's Dual Life
00:01:48
Speaker
Okay, onto the plot summary.
00:01:50
Speaker
Our narrator is 28-year-old Tiffany Ani Fanelli, who appears to her friends and coworkers to be the luckiest girl alive. She's a writer at a prominent women's magazine living in New York, apparently happy, successful, and engaged to Mary Luke Harrison, the son of an extremely wealthy family.
00:02:12
Speaker
However, from the first scene we learn that Ani's happiness and success are mostly put on. In fact, Ani is angry and cunning, displayed by her cutting internal monologues throughout the narrative. The book opens with Ani's rapidly approaching wedding and her growing disillusionment with her fiancé.
00:02:32
Speaker
We learn she's agreed to participate in a documentary film about events that occurred when she was a high school student at the prestigious Bradley Prep School. But since Ani has carefully kept most of her experiences at Bradley a secret from those who know her now, the novel only reveals gradually the truth about what really happened.
00:02:54
Speaker
through intermittent flashbacks, readers learn the horrifying truth.
Unfolding Trauma at Bradley Prep
00:02:59
Speaker
When Tiffany Finelli was 14, she gets caught smoking pot and is expelled from the Catholic school she's been attending. Her mother is angry, but also a little excited to give Tiffany the opportunity to rub elbows with the rich kids at Bradley Prep. Once there, Tiffany is embarrassed of her family's modest lifestyle and struggles to fit in with these wealthy kids.
00:03:23
Speaker
She immediately goes to work trying to be accepted by the popular group, which includes a stereotypical array of mean girls and jocks. She takes special interest in a boy named Liam, who is also new to the school, and he seems to like her as well.
00:03:39
Speaker
When she's invited to a party within weeks of arriving, Tiffany is thrilled. Once there, however, she discovers that she's the only female who's been invited. Drinking games ensue and always trying to impress, she drinks too much. Terribly drunk, Tiffany goes in and out of consciousness and is sexually assaulted by three boys, Peyton, Liam, and Dean.
00:04:03
Speaker
Still determined to be part of the in crowd. She tells no one of the assaults except for her favorite teacher. Mr. Larson He tries to get her to tell her mom and the authorities but Tiffany refuses. She does not want to get the boys into trouble Liam takes her to the pharmacy for the morning after pill
00:04:24
Speaker
As one would expect, news of what happened at the party still gets out. The cool kids humiliate Tiffany and spread vicious rumors. Weeks later, she's invited to another one of their parties and Dean gets Tiffany alone and tries assaulting her again. She resists and he hits her. This marks the final chapter of Tiffany's association with the cool kids clique.
00:04:51
Speaker
The only student who will still talk to her is one of the school's biggest misfits named Arthur.
Arthur and Ben's Revenge Attack
00:04:56
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Arthur and Tiffany become close. She visits his house every day where they smoke pot and share their hatred for the mean, rich kids. Arthur tells Tiffany how they also tormented another friend of his named Ben with insinuations that he was gay. Dean pinned Ben to the ground and defecated on him.
00:05:17
Speaker
According to Arthur, their abuse drove Ben to attempt suicide. During one of these afterschool hangouts, Arthur shows Tiffany a hunting rifle of his father's.
00:05:28
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Soon thereafter, Arthur and Ben storm the school, setting off a homemade bomb and roaming the halls shooting kids they deem as their enemies. Tiffany and Dean are attempting to escape the school when they meet Arthur standing there with his father's gun. Arthur offers it to Tiffany and encourages her to take revenge on her rapist. Instead, Tiffany takes out a steak knife she found in the cafeteria and stabs Arthur, killing him and ending the siege.
Documentary Forces Ani to Confront Past
00:05:59
Speaker
Among the victims of the attack are Liam and Peyton, two of the boys who assaulted Tiffany. Dean survives the shooting and wants to ensure the story of the rapes never comes out, so he accuses Tiffany of being in league with the shooters. She narrowly avoids prosecution. Coming back to the present day, the documentary project stirs these memories and anxieties that Tiffany, now going by Ani, has tried so hard to forget.
00:06:29
Speaker
Luke and her mother want her to just let it all go and move on. Due to this and Ani's realization that she's really only using Luke, she dreads the idea of marrying him. Coincidentally, the teacher she confided in all those years ago, Mr. Larson, is a client of Luke's and also invited to participate in the documentary. He and Ani reconnect several times and admit feelings for one another, but do not act on them.
00:06:58
Speaker
During the documentary filming, Ani agrees to meet with the wheelchair bound Dean. When Dean falsely believes he is out of range of the film's cruise microphone, she demands that he admits to raping her. Armed now with Dean's confession, Ani feels validated.
00:07:15
Speaker
She's confident in her reclaimed identity and ends the engagement to Luke in a dramatic flight from their wedding rehearsal. She takes a position at a different magazine and resumes life as the real Tiffany Finale.
00:07:31
Speaker
Thanks for that great summary, Brooke.
Is 'Luckiest Girl Alive' a Thriller?
00:07:34
Speaker
So I would agree with one of your opening statements that I'm not sure that I would classify this book after having read it twice and watched the the film. I'm not sure where I would put this.
00:07:49
Speaker
Well, I'm glad to hear you say that. And as always, we have not talked about the story together until now. So yeah, I was glad to hear you say that because I was wondering, where are the elements of a thriller? Because as we've talked about domestic or psychological thrillers in the past, there needs to be secrets. There would be twists.
00:08:13
Speaker
And although they're not a who done it, we've discussed before that they're a who's doing it. You have this sense and a thriller of not really understanding what's going on or what's true and what's false. And I never felt that in this story.
00:08:31
Speaker
No, I mean, I think there's suggestion that perhaps she's an unreliable narrator. She certainly, you know, in the teenager parts of the story, suggests that she was drunk, she doesn't remember what happened, and she was young, right? Like, and those are kind of the signals that we've talked about in the past of what is an unreliable narrator. But yeah, I spent a lot of the book trying to figure out, like, who is this?
00:08:59
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character and why is she the way she is? 100%. And unfortunately, I don't think in the end, we really get that question answered. No, I would I would agree with that.
Tiffany's Struggle to Fit In
00:09:15
Speaker
So to begin the what would you do aspect of our episode, maybe we could start at the earliest information we get about Tiffany. And this would be her expulsion from the Catholic school and arrival at Bradley Prep. And I guess the first what would you do scenario that came to me is after being expelled and really causing a lot of turmoil for your family,
00:09:42
Speaker
would you work so hard to become part of the cool kids clique? You know, I think so actually. And I think it's because, you know, if you're a teenager, you're not thinking about how hard your parents worked to get you into this school, right? You're just thinking about how do I make the next three or four years bearable?
00:10:07
Speaker
Right?
Ani's Adult Persona vs. Inner Turmoil
00:10:08
Speaker
Being a teenager is not that fun. And I think Noel does a really great job of capturing that sort of insecurity and the real sensation of wanting to fit in. And it's all very superficial, right? What kind of cars, someone driving, what kind of house do they live in? And there's a lot of disordered eating in this book as well.
00:10:36
Speaker
Um, this is true both when she's young and, and when she's, when she's older. Yeah. So to answer your, your question, yeah, I think I probably would have felt a lot like she does at the beginning of the book. Just, I just want to fit in.
00:10:50
Speaker
That's the place I landed as well. Outside looking in, your alarm bells are going off. But to be honest, it's very typical of how you feel when you're a teenager. You gravitate to the safety of the cool kids or the prestige.
00:11:08
Speaker
And that's definitely something that's important in Tiffany's family. Her mom really wants to be upper crust and they're not. They're probably middle class or upper middle class. So she definitely has that pressure coming from home too. It's also a trophy thing. You know, you have the new kid coming to the high school and wanting to fit in. So it works as a storytelling device too, I suppose.
00:11:36
Speaker
Absolutely, because we are along with the character and trying to figure out who's who at the school and where does she want to align herself.
00:11:48
Speaker
So I have a what would you do question, but this jumps ahead to when she's an adult. And she's really worked very hard to reinvent herself. And we don't, as readers, really understand why until the book has gotten much further along. But that first scene with her as an adult, you get the sense that
00:12:15
Speaker
She's really created this life for herself. And so I wonder, Brooke, do you think that that's something that you would have done?
00:12:26
Speaker
You're right in that we don't have much information to base this persona that she's built on. I really kept wondering, why is this character unable to be real with anyone? She has a fake persona for her fiance and for her mother and for her the
00:12:48
Speaker
her friends at work and she in through these internal monologues we know that she and she's kind of catty about it you know she'll say oh I'll tell him this but I really think that and I'm dying to know what has caused this in this character but it takes a really long time.
Impact of Trauma on Ani's Adult Life
00:13:09
Speaker
Knowing what she went through, I guess I do have some sympathy for her for feeling like because this was a traumatic and maybe two of the most awful things that a young person can go through that all happens within the span of six months. So it's definitely going to shape the rest of her life.
00:13:32
Speaker
So I suppose, yes, I think that the way the story unfolded, I think as a reader, I would have enjoyed having just a little bit more insight sooner because I found her really unlikable most of this story until we got to the crux of things.
00:13:53
Speaker
Yeah, I, I was the same way. So the first half of the book, I was, I really was like, I don't think I like this character very much. Um, and you know, I definitely felt for her as in a teen version, um, you know, insecure at a new school. So being a teenager is hard enough moving to a new school.
00:14:18
Speaker
is, you know, that just compounds that experience of being a teen, right? So she's really just trying to figure life out. And I didn't think that that came through as much in the movie as it did in the book. I would agree. I would agree. The movie is also told in dual timelines.
00:14:37
Speaker
like the book is, but I think the pacing is a little better in fact, in the fact that you get some of the backstory that's important sooner. Um, but you're right. And, and similarly in both the book and the movie, I never felt like Tiffany's family or friends treated her as if she had been through multiple sexual assaults and a school shooting.
00:15:04
Speaker
I felt like the problem that was going to be revealed to us was like maybe a terrible car accident or, um, you know, a, a, a bad breakup. I mean, seriously, they kept it so superficial of wanting her to move on and not really hinting at the gravity of what she had been through. And I, I was confused by that a lot of the time.
Teenage Social Dynamics and Lack of Support
00:15:29
Speaker
Yeah, I, I, I agree.
00:15:31
Speaker
So if we go back to the teenage timeline, would you have stayed at the party when it's just a bunch of boys and you?
00:15:41
Speaker
This is a tough one and I asked myself this earlier. And so I will admit like I was not one of the popular crowd when I was in high school. So I very much appreciated what Tiffany was feeling in terms of I didn't necessarily want to be part of the popular crowd, but I also didn't really want to
00:16:03
Speaker
not be part of the popular crowd, if that, if that makes sense. Um, yeah, as an adult, no, I probably wouldn't have stayed, but as a teenager, yeah, I probably would have. Yeah. It sounds like we were very similar teenagers, Sarah, which is not very surprising that because we're bookish girls, right? But, um, you know, I, when I was, I have a teenage daughter and when I was watching and reading this,
00:16:30
Speaker
part of the book. It made me think how happy that I am that we've always made it very clear that if you're in a situation, you send the SOS text and we'll get you out of it without causing you embarrassment. You won't be in trouble with us. We won't even ask any questions. If you just need out, you let us know.
00:16:52
Speaker
And unfortunately, Tiffany doesn't have that. She doesn't feel like she can tell her mom. She doesn't have a good relationship with her mom. She doesn't have a good situation with the kids at school, and she's really stuck between a rock and a hard place. So it's easy to see how this story unfolds the way it does and in such utter tragedy for her.
00:17:20
Speaker
But maybe more important than that because things get away from you. You know, you're one minute you're there and you're having some drinks to fit in and things run away and this terrible situation occurs.
00:17:37
Speaker
Would you want to keep these people as your friends? Yeah, probably not.
Doubts and Speculations about School Attack
00:17:44
Speaker
Um, but again, I just keep going back to, you know, teenagers and their brains are not as developed and, and like, you just are not making rational decisions.
00:17:54
Speaker
We're seeing all of this through the mom lens, right Sarah? Totally. Totally. And because she didn't have a strong support network at home, she needed to find somewhere.
00:18:10
Speaker
right? And so, you know, I think that's why she turns to Arthur as her friend. And I think I probably would have done the same, right? Anybody who's willing to talk to me, I'll talk to you.
00:18:26
Speaker
for sure. And although my summary didn't reflect it, she actually meets Arthur on the first day of school and he's very nice to her, welcomes her. And I will say that one little surprise was the fact that Arthur was, you know, a bad guy essentially, because I remember thinking as a reader, oh good, you know, now you, you know, put those
00:18:50
Speaker
mean rich kids aside and have a real true friend and in fact that was not to be. Yeah and I think what really comes clearer towards the end of the book is the speculation after the shooting that she had been involved in it.
00:19:12
Speaker
right? That she had planned it along with Arthur and I think Ben. And so there is that question, right? Like, was she really involved? And that's kind of where I went back to how reliable as a narrator is she, right? I mean, I think ultimately I do believe that she wasn't involved.
00:19:34
Speaker
Well, it's interesting that you say that because I was thinking about how this story could be made more of a thriller or more, more mystery element. And I wanted to reference our friend, Jane.
00:19:50
Speaker
who came on the show a while back to talk about locked room mysteries with us. And she's got a great YouTube channel. She talks about all sorts of mystery topics and how to create great mysteries. But she has a really succinct definition of a twist.
00:20:07
Speaker
And my thought was if this had a really good twist ending, then it might have fulfilled that for me a little more. And Jane says a twist is just simply something the reader believes that turns out to be false. And of course, as the author, you lead the readers to believe that and you plant this one scenario and then it turns out to be false.
00:20:35
Speaker
Um, and so one way that Noel could have achieved a twist is that Tiffany was actually the mastermind behind the whole thing to get revenge on her
00:20:51
Speaker
on her rapists. It makes it a much darker story, but it would give you that gasp at the end when you realize that she won, right? She's out of jail, she's unscathed, and she got revenge on these men. Yeah, no, that's a really good point,
Ani's Adult Life Choices and Engagement
00:21:12
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Brooke.
00:21:12
Speaker
Uh, so I've got another, what would you do? And this is, um, again, when she's an adult, she ends up, uh, getting into a relationship and, and, um, almost marrying, um, someone who I think is very similar to the boys that she went to school with. Um, and she very actively seems to have created this life so that she could be in a position to marry someone like him.
00:21:40
Speaker
And, you know, do you think that that's something that you would have done, Brooke? I completely agree with what you said.
00:21:49
Speaker
remember thinking, well, she's just recreating this same scenario where she's trying to be with the cool people in her life or the rich people or however you want to look at it. It was very frustrating. But I guess I go back to if I were in her shoes and I'd been through what I'd been through, she's still trying to work out that whole thing of
00:22:13
Speaker
being shunned by them and not being good enough for them, them being the the cool kids. So I guess I could see why she did it. And maybe if I were in that position, I would. But I really was glad at the end of the novel that she decides to go out on her own, because I think that's precisely what this character needs. And maybe she can start being real in some way.
00:22:42
Speaker
Mm hmm. Yeah. Well, and and, you know, throughout the book, she kind of voices this increasing concern about whether this is the right relationship for her. And there's, you know, a couple of scenes, I think, where she kind of stands up to him or his friends where they are being. I think it's a some friends who are being racist or is it a family member? But she stands up when that's happening. And I think I did a little like, yes.
00:23:12
Speaker
Because it was a redeeming moment for her because she really isn't all that likeable. And it's understandable why she's not, why she is who she is. The last straw for her is when she finds that he's broken on a late night with friends, broken a picture that she had taken from Arthur.
00:23:38
Speaker
and she had kept all this time and she finds a remnant of it in the garbage. Would that have been the last straw for you?
00:23:47
Speaker
I would like to say that I would have chosen to end the relationship sooner because they're just right at the verge of getting married. But I do think that that was such a telling display of his character because she had asked him about it earlier. Where did this go? And he lies and says, oh, it'll turn up. He knew exactly what had happened. And instead of just being upfront,
00:24:16
Speaker
And so I think it was a good turning point in the story. I will note that we don't get that in the movie and I missed it. I wanted something, I wanted that fiance of hers to do something pivotal to make that decision more meaningful, I think. So yeah, I think it would be the last straw for me.
Book vs. Movie Adaptations
00:24:41
Speaker
And another difference between the book and the movie is how she confronts Dean, the one boy who survived the shooting. And I think I preferred how she did it in the book to the way that it happened in the movie. I don't think it was as impactful, um, in the movie. Yeah. And I guess I, I like to think that if I'd had my choice of those two ways that she did those confrontations, um, I would have done it the way that she did it in the book. Mm-hmm.
00:25:12
Speaker
Yes, good point. Yeah, it was much more. She was much more powerful and confident in the book as we're talking about some of the differences between the book and the movie. And we see this a lot, right? Movies have to be pared down. You can't you can't cover all this subplots and things. But Mr. Larson is a big part of the book and he barely appears in the movie.
00:25:41
Speaker
I wonder, Sarah, do you think that that's partly because her connection with him was so inappropriate in the book? A 14 year old girl spending a lot of time with Mr. Larson and honestly talking about how she was attracted to him. But we don't see that in the movie. And I kind of think it was a wise choice just because of the of the ethics of it. What do you think?
00:26:06
Speaker
Yeah, I think I agree. I think Mr. Larson provided some of that stability that she didn't have with any of the other adults who were around her.
Episode Wrap-up and Reflections
00:26:18
Speaker
Well, Sarah, this has been a little bit different than our other What Would You Do episodes, but I sure had a lot of fun talking with you about it. I agree, Brooke. And yeah, thank you for suggesting it.
00:26:32
Speaker
Absolutely. And thank you everyone for listening today to Clued In Mystery. I'm Brooke. And I'm Sarah. And we both love mystery. Clued In Mystery is produced by Brooke Peterson and Sarah M. Stephen. Music is by Shane Ivers at Silvermansound.com. Visit us online at CluedInMystery.com or social media at Clued In Mystery. If you liked what you heard, please consider subscribing, leaving a review, or telling your friends.