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Speaker: Well, hello and welcome to this week's episode of the Purple Door Podcast, a friend's rewatch pod. I'm one of your hosts, Alistair, alongside, as always, Deanne. Deanne, how are you today?
Speaker: I am awesome, Al. i'm I'm awesome. we We are all... I'm tired. I have to be honest. You are tired. am. You had a very late night. I got a text from you at 1 a.m., something that. Oh, yeah. Oh, thank God. Oh, can we record it this time? Instead. Because, yes, it ah you know, I just, you never know. what things are going to look like and um i got to sit in traffic for a stupid amount of time yeah it was just just no i'm tired yeah but it's super pumped to talk about this episode of you are tired and yet here you are dedicated to the yeah yeah dedicated that's a right yeah yes Well, let's see. Before we get started, I've got two little housekeeping things. One you know about, one you do not. um
Speaker: First of all, I did put out on our Instagram and Facebook our Buy Me A Coffee link, which is where people can donate money to the pod. Obviously, we do not have ads. And then the Chino, we'll talk about, yes, Buy Me A Chino, which is point number two on my list.
Speaker: Yeah, buymeacoffee.com slash thepurpledorepodcast. If you wish to contribute to our hosting fees and things we have to pay, um i must thank Christina LaVorna. I hope I'm pronouncing that right. Who sent us a little money to contribute to the running of the pod? saying that she know And I've seen her pop up on Instagram before. She's a great supporter of the pod. So, Christina, thank you very much indeed. That's greatly appreciated. Thank you for the Chino, right? For the Chino. Okay. which We'll discuss the Chino. So two weeks ago, Chandler asked Gunther, I believe was for two Chinos, please. And Deanne and I looked at each other going, what in the world is a Chino other than i thought it was a pair of jeans.
Speaker: It's a pair of khaki pants. A pair khakis. All right. And then on Facebook, Jennifer Hopkins, one of our wonderful listeners. Thank you, Jennifer. Very graciously and lovingly pointed out what I'm going to infarge our stupidity and not really realizing that Chino could be a short version of cappuccino, which makes a lot more sense. So much more sense. And it explains why Gunther rolled his eyes and all the things. So thank you so much. Because duh. I don't think it would have ever occurred to me that it was cappuccino, despite it being remarkably simple. Right.
Speaker: Whenever I saw, because Al texted me earlier this week, and he was like, I have to tell you something, and I feel kind of silly. And I was like, oh, and he said it. i was just like, and it I laughed because was like, duh. Yeah, like it never made that connection. Chino to cappuccino. But here we are. And as we say, every day is a school day. And I shall never see the word cappuccino on a menu and not think of Chino again.
Speaker: um Right. Yeah. So thank you for that, Jennifer. Yes. Thank you, Jennifer. And again, thank you, Christina. um Should you want to donate to the pond, help us out with our hosting fees. Just head on over to Instagram or Facebook. Send us a message somewhere. We will hit you up with the links. But this week it is the one with the invitation. This is going to be a tricky one to review because of all the flashbacks, but we're going to do our very best.
Speaker: Yes. i Okay. and the And right before we started recording, and we talked about that Joseph said the exact same thing. How are you going to how are you going to review oh episode that is just flashbacks? And I said, well, there's a whole story going through it.
Speaker: But i want to also, i don't know that I want to talk about that yet. I'll wait. All right. But yeah, because um I have some feelings about this episode. and I don't know if it is what it says about me as a human.
Speaker: so i am intrigued. And that is quite the teaser. I wouldn't be all that intrigued. It's not that interesting. But the fact that you say that and Joseph says that, but then I have a completely different take on that and I it took me a minute to kind of think through and organize my thoughts about what my thoughts are about this episode well I mean i can't wait we are doing an unfiltered unvetted uh trivia this week um but I only have a
Speaker: i'm sorry i keep talking you you're fine no you're you are don't you you dare apologize yeah unfiltered just unedited bamboozled i actually have nine questions oh my gosh i only have six all right so you should definitely go first i should and it's an odd episode so i'm gonna go first anyway excellent all right i'm ready when you are All right. What does Chandler say is the way he's going to be remembered?
Speaker: Is it by the ass print on the cat on the seat? Yeah, it is. I do love it. um All right. My first one for you. This is you either saw it or you didn't. In the opening scene, Phoebe is wearing a kind of funky cardigan with a name on it.
Speaker: what's the What's the name? And judging by the look on your face, I will say it's a fairly common guy's name.
Speaker: Gary. Not Gary, but that's a great guess. Dang One more guess. It's got three letters in it. Sam. Oh, unfortunately it's Jim. Bob. Oh, or but not Bob. That's just...
Speaker: No, Jim it is. Jim it is. Jim. Jim. Huh. Yeah, no, I did not see that. Interesting. you got for me? Why can't Phoebe go to London?
Speaker: Was it just because she's so pregnant?
Speaker: There's a specific having to do with. Okay. I was going to say this because you can't fly in your final trimester. Very good. Okay. Which I've often kind of wondered, is that medical or is it so people aren't giving birth in other countries or, you know, the thought, the risk of somebody going into labor on the plane or is it actually like dangerous for for the child's health?
Speaker: Yeah, I would imagine it's because the pressure difference would make it easier to go into labor, right? Yeah, yeah ah that that makes sense in my non-medical head. yeah Right? I don't know. Okay.
Speaker: All right. um Let's see. Question number two for you. is oh sorry I was just like I've lost track there you go I've got two done so two second one for you when Rachel suggests that in one of the throwback the many throwback um clips when Rachel suggests they take a break you know after the frozen yogurt all of that stuff what color is Ross's sweater
Speaker: wait in which flashback the one where Rachel suggests they take a break and then Ross storms at the door you know a break from us What color is this sweater? Is it cream?
Speaker: It's not cream. Uh-oh. Yeah. Are you still there? Oh, I'm still here. Can you hear me? Everything just shrunk on my computer screen. Sorry. We can still hear you clearly.
Speaker: What color is... It's kind of a famous famous-ish in the lore of Ross and Rachel.
Speaker: The color of this sweater, I would say.
Speaker: I think, I hope I've not steered you in the wrong direction. fired from this bamboo bazzold because is it is it brown? It's not brown, no. I have no clue. It's a red sweater, which, spoiler alert, it's also a red sweater, I think, when... um Yeah, whenever... Yes, later on, yes. Later. But hold on But it's a, is it a pullover?
Speaker: Yes, I think so. Oh, okay. Yeah, it is. It is. Okay, because in my brain, ah whenever I hear cardigan, that's like a jacket. Like a sweater jacket. Okay, so that's my bad. dad All right.
Speaker: What you got for me? Who does Ross send an invitation to? So he figuring that he probably won't come. Oh, it's in my notes, I think.
Speaker: I think at very best I'm going to get half a point because it's Uncle Somebody. Mm-hmm. And I don't remember, so I'm just going to guess.
Speaker: Hank. Ooh, that's a good guess. That's good, strong name. Nathan, Uncle Nathan. Nobody likes him. Nobody likes him. He's too cheap to fly as well.
Speaker: Yeah. He's he's not going to do that. He's invited. Yeah. um All right. How long were Ross and Rachel apart after they went on a break? And this is where Rachel and Ross, they're in bed.
Speaker: and she says, I wish we didn't just lose that. Six weeks. No. Oh. No. i Because honestly, I thought it was it's an amount of months.
Speaker: Oh. She says, I wish we didn't lose that. Three months? It is four months. Dang. Yeah. I'm just like guessing stuff. I swear I watched this episode. You also did say that you you were very tired.
Speaker: So I think you already, yes, you've had a very late night and then up hourly recording, which we appreciate you greatly. Excuses! All right. Why can't Rachel drive Phoebe to the hospital?
Speaker: Because she doesn't have a car and her license is expired. Nice. Good. Yes. I just like the fact that it was two reasons. Yeah. um All right. Your question four.
Speaker: I think you got this one because I'm going to get, I'm surprised that neither us have asked a question about this. What street do all of the main characters live on? Can we see on the envelope addressed Rachel? Rachel.
Speaker: I thought there would have been you would have... No, because my screen is fuzzy and I wasn't wearing my glasses. I don't know. is it 30th?
Speaker: Just the street. give me this Just the street name will do it. Oh, Main Street. tis no Madison. No. Broadway. That would be cool if it was. and No. ah Chelsea.
Speaker: No, it's not. I'm just guessing. I know, and I love it. I think I could give you a million guesses, and I don't think you would ever come up with Grove Street. Grove. Grove. No. No. Never.
Speaker: Which is not the, I think this is in my notes, the the outside shot that we see a million times of the girls' apartment is not on Grove Street. um But that is the street that they live on. All right.
Speaker: You've got, i think, a final question for me. um Yeah, of course I do. Hang on. ah What color is Rachel's prom dress?
Speaker: It's in my notes and I've got 50-50 shot. Because I'm sure I wrote down, i feel like I wrote down Monica's was blue and Rachel's was red. That's going with. No, okay, well,
Speaker: but ah so Blue. i always go with blue. Yes. I'm like, just flip them, flip them, flip them. I'll go with half a point of that one, but that's it. Okay. All right. My final one for you. Let's see. I've got few to choose. Have I gotten any right?
Speaker: you You haven't. like It's... I got a text from you at 1am and we started recording at 10 and I dare say you didn't go to bed at 1am. You were probably still... No, I texted you while was still sitting in the parking lot. Exactly.
Speaker: So this this is just... This one will go down in lore as one where Willison was exhausted. I guess. Yeah. Now let's see, I've got three questions. I am going to choose this one. whenhandant in Again, another flashback. When Chandler tells Rachel that Ross is you know in love with her, you know, when you talk about the Crystal Duck, all of that, he has a board game in his hand.
Speaker: What board game? Like the whole box. What game is it?
Speaker: Is it a real board game? It's a real one, a very common one. Monopoly. Monopoly. No, but you get two more guesses. Sorry. No, but thought you were going to say it.
Speaker: Yep. It's, it's thinking hard.
Speaker: She's
Speaker: poor Wilson. put this Oh my gosh. And I'm like board game. What's a board game? Well, you know, it is a board game. It is board game. begins with an S.
Speaker: Super Mario Brothers. That's not even a board game. It's not. it's not But you know, it is a board game. And it's not sorry. It's not sorry. Sorry. Sorry. t ge that is a board that is you know what else is a board game is scrabble scrabble that's not a board game well it's okay you know it is i was thinking boggle in my brain i got boggle and scrabble mixed up dad gov
Speaker: Way to go, Al. Shut out. You got shut out. Just for giggles, I've got two more for you. Well, one of them, if you didn't see the the address on rachel on the envelope with Rachel's name, nope you probably didn't see the stamp and what was on the stamp.
Speaker: um Hearts. No, but yellow and red rose was on that. oh And then in the final scene, what book is Chandler reading was my last question. Oh my God. Ow, no. It was a book called Access London, like a tourist guide.
Speaker: Oh, that's fun. Yeah. How about whenever they were talking about going and getting Die Hard and then not even leaving the the hotel room? yeah I didn't even see he had a book in his hand. Yeah. I thought had a movie.
Speaker: I don't know. Yeah, why die? That was a tough one for you. This is a terrible, terribly hard one for me. let's all We've got three more episodes this season before we tally them up.
Speaker: um Okay. And we see we see where we end up. Yeah, this one's going to be a bit weird as we review this because we, but um I don't know, I've written it kind of down scene by scene, but then i'm not we're not just going to revisit all the old scenes. But we do start off in Central Park. Joey and Chandler are contemplating about how much life is changing. You know, Phoebe's going to have babies and Ross is getting married. They are going to do something huge.
Speaker: Yeah, they are. They're going to climb Everest. It's just steep. It's just one of those lines I love. um Okay. Yes, go ahead. then oh Okay. Now, you've gone through. Joey and Chandler wear me out, but they're so funny, and I love them so very much.
Speaker: But it's like there are six of them in their whole little group. Yeah. And they name two things. Ross is getting married and Phoebe is making people.
Speaker: Yes, that's it, making people. We've completely ignored the fact that this isn't even half of their group. Like, they're doing all right, guys. Calm down. That's true. That's true. But they're like, nope, time for us. We're going to go and...
Speaker: and And climb Mount Everest. Climb Mount Everest. Which is a very expensive situation. It sure is. Yeah, what did they say? or Phoebe comes in and she's like, she looked into it and i think she said it was $60,000 and you could die.
Speaker: And that's what she said. And so whenever you go on a a Mount Everest like expedition, you you can spend anywhere from $30,000 the way up to like five hundred thousand dollars And if you today were going to go and spend $60,000, you would go and you would get, um and and this is the most um re are the most picked option. and it's And it ranges between $45,000 and $65,000, depending on the time of year you go and how much food you eat and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker: But they ah you have a guide that guides you. ah from ah and it you have your so your base camp. And then as you're going up, they plan your expedition for you. they bring oxygen for you. right feed you.
Speaker: And then ah your guide is like a local, somebody who's local. So there might be some issues like with language and things like that.
Speaker: But if you're going to $60,000, that's what you would get. That's just just mind-blowing money. and Yeah. I mean, it'd be super cool. Yeah.
Speaker: Very tough, you know. I wonder how many people spent the $60,000 and then don't make it, which I don't Do you? I used to know this. That would be a quick ah Google search. But, yeah, no. the The people that actually complete the entire track is minuscule compared to the people that start it.
Speaker: know Yeah. i just – And you go in a group and there that's ah a group guided tour by a by a native Nepali Sherpa guy.
Speaker: Right. person And I don't know. Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, I wonder if the the groups that do that, if you have to be, like, if they're just saying, okay, we'll take your money, great, we'll we'll we'll go. Or if you have to have a certain level of experience or be in a certain physical shape, you know, all those things before they will take you. Because I'd imagine a sharper doesn't want to be, you know, halfway up with... Babysitting. Yeah, with, with you know, a very large...
Speaker: guy who smokes a pack of cigarettes a day kind of thing. are Are you being judgy right now, sir? I'm not being judgy. I'm just thinking if I was going to try and take somebody up a mountain, I'd rather they didn't stop for cigarette breaks and then the oxygen tank. I'm thinking that that could hinder my safety. you know Interesting. Okay. Yeah. I mean, I'm not being judgy. You be you.
Speaker: You know, that's that's it. but Well, but here's the deal. If you want to spend $300,000...
Speaker: You can get a one-on-one guide. They can take you from a house or from ah or on a helicopter. I was going to ask if there was a helicopter involved, which seems like a good idea.
Speaker: Yeah. And then they like you get your your base camp and all of your little check-ins and stuff like that are like very luxurious. Yeah.
Speaker: So if you got $300,000, bring your pack of smokes. There you go. Smoke a pack at the top and then just amble down. Yeah. I hop on my helicopter and off I go. I'll see you poor losers later who only had 60 grand to burn. Yeah.
Speaker: Well, I was going to ask you whats so if you have anything on your bucket list, but maybe it's helicoptering to the top of Everest. I don't know. I mean, it is now. Right? Right? It suddenly is going on my list.
Speaker: Yeah. No, i I don't know. I'd love to... I would love to be able to go to all 50 states. That is... i've I've only got like four that I haven't been to. I've thought i've got five. So we're very close.
Speaker: I've got five left. What are your five? Hawaii and Alaska. And then oh I say oddly, but Nevada. I've never been to Vegas or to Nevada. Oh. Right, right. wherever if People who don't travel go to Vegas. You know, like everyone has seems to have been to Vegas but me. um Maine, which really bugs me because I really want to get to Maine. And North Dakota.
Speaker: Oh, okay. And North Dakota is, they have a fun like tourist board thing there where they've got big signs that say um you saved the best for last because people who go to all 50 states often do North Dakota last.
Speaker: because it's interesting kind of most out the way and not going to say there's not much there there's some beautiful things there but it's often the last one so they've kind of leaned into that as a tourist promotion idea and i think that's ah it makes me want to go even more but make it the last one yeah that's that's awesome yeah that's awesome now i've been to north dakota i have not ever been to washington state right maine oregon and alaska ah yeah yeah now oh oregon and washington state that's that's my speed up there uh yeah i i checked checked oregon off the list last summer i went up there for a camping and hiking festival um in cascade locks oregon which about an hour we're i outside of portland
Speaker: um And it was just, just had the best time. So any listeners in Portland, I loved your city. Went to Powell's bookshop, did some other bits and pieces before heading out to Cascade Locks and just had a wonderful time.
Speaker: but you know But yeah, mean I got within like two miles of Maine and I was driving, but we were running late for something. I forget what it was and I didn't want to just cross it. I want to do something in each state.
Speaker: So we'll get there. We'll get there one of these days. of Let's see, where are we? Yeah, so they have decided that they could... We haven't even met it through the first week! We haven't... Sorry, everyone. um yeah it Suddenly this Die Hard thing seems to come out of nowhere to me. I couldn't help but wonder if... there's I don't know, because Bruce Willis was in Die Hard, right?
Speaker: Yeah. Yeah, and that's much later on that Bruce Willis you know makes a you know a couple of cameos. Oh, but we've talked about Die Hard before. Have we? Remind me. ah Remember whenever we went um and they rented the movie?
Speaker: And we could get Die Hard. And then at the end, i think Phoebe comes in with Die Hard. That's, yes. Yeah, that all rings a bell.
Speaker: Okay. Yeah. yeah um Much easier than climbing Everest. just Just rent die hard. Yeah, much easier. um We'll nip on over to Ross's apartment. Ross and Emily are writing at their invitations. um They are inviting Uncle Nathan because he's not going to flee. He's too cheap to fly. Nobody really likes him.
Speaker: How do you think Emily handles seeing Ross inviting Rachel? Yeah. I've got feelings on it, but I'm curious what your feelings are.
Speaker: I don't know. yeah was more hung up on the fact that she's being ugly about his handwriting. Okay, so I had some feelings that as somebody who does not have... I don't hold my pen or pencil correctly. I never have.
Speaker: um I've tried to adjust and conform, but my handwriting is even worse if I do that. I hold it like a two-year-old and always have. um Yeah, I thought, yeah, yeah we'll just tell people Ben wrote them.
Speaker: Seems a little mean. Seems a little mean. Yeah, um but but that's kind of her quippy humor. so Yeah. um I didn't really necessarily have any big thoughts about it.
Speaker: um i didn't take it in that moment. Like I know everything that happens after. i didn't take it in that moment that she was saying anything other than it's your decision.
Speaker: Right. You know, and if she meant that, then great. and That's the way I took It would be his decision. like Yeah. That's the way it should be.
Speaker: I agree. I think she's being very understanding. She's being, you know, she's like, this isn't about me. I like the way that at this point she she doesn't like, she's so welcoming to Carol and Susan. I mean, as she should be, but sometimes people can rear their ugly head when jealousy crops up. And I think she's just been super cool with Carol and Susan and welcoming, um,
Speaker: um Susan uh to London and then very understanding about Rachel and it's like as long as you're okay with it you know that she would find it weird but if he's okay I think she's been pretty understanding at this moment and yeah yeah yeah yeah I like it well let me let me put this in just real real quick please okay um currently Currently, since they have added in all of the supports and all of that for getting to the top of Everest, modern success rates hover between 60 and 75%. So 60 to 75% of the people make it all the way to the top now.
Speaker: Right. With all the support systems and technology. Right. Yeah. So really just over half really isn't that great. yeah If spending $60,000 to do something, I'm doing it.
Speaker: Okay. Anyway, I'm going to let it go now. Yeah. I'm going to push myself a lot harder than if it costs $60. If I'm putting that kind of money behind this idea. um So yeah, we're, we're going to get into this weird territory of lots of different flashbacks. Yeah.
Speaker: um Some of them have just scribbled down notes. We go back to, I think, the very first scene where Rachel enters Central Park in her wedding dress. And then when i think later on in that episode, when Ross is telling Rachel that he had crush on her back in high school.
Speaker: Yeah. Then when the power goes out a few episodes later, I think, where he says he sees big passion in her future and Joey's like, no, you're friend-zoned. um Stop me at any point. I'm just reading through the ones I've got. And then they're on the balcony when the cat jumps on his shoulder. How the cat gets up multiple stories high, who knows?
Speaker: Yes. And then the laundromat, which... we're neither The hugest fan of Ross, David Schwimmer's physical comedy, how he does the thing where he gets hit in the face with the the laundry machine force and falls so well, I think is just brilliant. Then, and again, stop me at any point, Ross and Rachel are then arguing in Central Park after he's with Julie and he's found out. And then they have their sort of their first kiss after this fight. Yeah.
Speaker: Then they take that they're taking a break scene where they're arguing about Mark. Then it's the morning after with Chloe in the apartment. Okay, hang on, hang on, hang on. Yes, no yes.
Speaker: Yeah. Okay. Okay. Continue. Oh yeah. And stop me. It's just, we've kind of reviewed these. So it was like, I figured they'd just go through them. Yeah. um Yeah. The really awkward one with Chloe hiding behind the door.
Speaker: um Then there's the big argument about Chloe, I guess later, are you know, soon afterwards when Joey, Monica, Chandler, Phoebe, they're all stuck in the bedroom.
Speaker: And then finally, in this little montage, it's when Ross and Rachel are lying in bed together and they start arguing about whether or not they were on a break because she's like, oh my mother said once a cheater, always a cheater and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker: um But then, yes. Okay. and then So then we go outside and Ross is standing at the mailbox. um We've talked about this possibly, maybe not. I can't think when we would have talked about it. One of my favorite museums of all time is in Washington, D.C. And they have the Post Office Museum.
Speaker: And one of the things I love is they have mailboxes from all over the world just in this in this large room. It's one of those things that I remember thinking, well, that might might be kind of fun. I've been twice. it's i just love that museum.
Speaker: um And, you know, stamps and all. It's just stuff from all over the world from, you know, some really rare, unusual stamps. I don't know what they are up to modern ones, kind of how they make them, all this fun stuff. So shout out to the Postal Museum in Washington, D.C., But Ross is standing there kind of pausing.
Speaker: i Kate and I rewound this scene like five times trying to see who the the first card was. Because you see putting in sort of one. It's very blurred, but you can make out it's Phoebe Buffay on the top of the first one.
Speaker: And then it's Rachel Green and she lives 495 Street, number ah New York, New York. But this scene um it is burned in my sort of friend's folklore. And I will tell you why. it left me slightly sad many years ago when I first saw this scene. And you're going to be sitting there thinking, how could this scene possibly make you sad?
Speaker: Because my niece, my darling niece, Rachel, is Rachel Green or was Rachel Green before she got married. So I always loved the fact that when I was younger, when this was first coming out, that my niece Rachel Green had the same name as Rachel Green in the show.
Speaker: Always thought that was really cool. This was the moment I found out that their last names are spelled differently. Because Rachel Green on the show has an E on the end.
Speaker: yes yes and my niece rachel does not naturally um and i remember seeing that thinking oh this stinks because it's i always thought they were everything was the same um okay yes and so let let's talk for a second because yeah that's so sweet but yeah yeah um two But thinking about these scenes, right? Because he's going through in his brain. And this is the way that I that this episode is laid out. I really like because it's his point of view and his memories. And then it's her point of view and her memories.
Speaker: Oh, I hadn't gone there with that that thought process. And that's fascinating. Yeah. yeah i we we but for Okay. So for me, like these scenes, like she said that to him, Emily is like, you know, it's up to you I wouldn't be comfortable, but that's up to you, whatever you want to do and So then he's like, so it makes him think like, Oh, and so he went through all of those scenes that made us,
Speaker: like love and think, oh, they're good. It's going to happen. It's going to happen. Right. Right. And then, you know, and so he's going through all of that, but then he stops at that, that point. And he is looking at her a letter trying to decide. Then that next scene that they do is, this is why she's getting the invite because she is his friend first.
Speaker: you know Because the next scene, the next flashback is her telling him, this this is what's right. you know this isn't how somebody is whenever they're in it for just two weeks.
Speaker: And so he's like, so even with all of that history and that at the end of the day, she is my friend. And so that's why he mails the letter. Right? Right.
Speaker: and um But that, it's all his memories, all of his things ah with this relationship, like starting with that very first scene, whenever I wish, you know, I just want to be married again. And then she walks in in the wedding dress and all the things that he was romanticizing and focusing in on. Right. So they're like his memories. Right.
Speaker: I don't know. Just my opinion. Because then whenever we go and we look at the next set, because it's whenever she's looking at her invite is the next set. And so it's her sorting through all the things and whether she's going to go or not.
Speaker: I really like that. I hadn't looked at it through that lens at all. I think that's really good. Um, I don't know if that's right or not. think there's something to it.
Speaker: Yeah, I mean, for me, because I can't, how boring it would be to have just a bunch of monologue exposition. Like, do you know what I mean? Instead, we're going to visit all the things. And so there's that connection with us in the audience of all these big events.
Speaker: But also, it's the big events that like from their point of view. Yeah. Right. I don't know. No, I think, yeah, very deliberately chosen.
Speaker: um Yes. In the middle of this scene, we do see that one that you mentioned where they are sitting in the hallway and, you know, you're not just in this for two weeks and that's when Ross decides to put the invitation.
Speaker: In the mail, we go over to the girls' apartment. Monica, Phoebe and Joey have got their invitations. And again, they're playing on this joke because Phoebe says that you know they let Ben address hers. um Ben is still like two at this point, if that.
Speaker: Right. right or Maybe he's not, but he seems very young. ah Too young to be addressing Yeah, for sure. But he might be three or four. Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah. He certainly doesn't show up at the wedding. We know that um Chandler comes in. He hasn't got his invitation yet. Joey gets to bring a guest. So he's going to show them um Rachel comes in and everyone tries to hide their invitations, not thinking to hide the one that she got in her stack of mail. And she doesn't know if she's going to go or not. um Chandler already bought his ticket without the invitation.
Speaker: Right. So it's not a she doesn't go, so we don't go. Right. Right. um but rachel she's gonna think about it you know she i feel for rachel at this point um yeah obviously some sadness there and this is where we start another kind of montage of flashbacks and again stop me with your thoughts um we have rachel's birthday where she opens the was it kind of a brooch i forget what it is or uh it's that brooch that brooch with the silhouette of the lady though like her yeah and
Speaker: Yeah, Chandler spills the beans about, you know, when he bought Carol the duck. Yes. And this is the first time that she realizes that, like, it's something more than just a crush that he's got on her, you know?
Speaker: yeah and sorry go on oh no no no so i interrupted you there yeah chandler's like remember when he says when he was in love with carol and botter that ridiculously expensive crystal duck and and i never know what he says was it if we discussed this at the time i think flennan or something when he's panicking just a random noise I don't know um and then we go forward to where Rachel is going to meet Ross and or Ross at the airport and he comes out arm in arm with Julie yeah because she's come with the flowers see this is like her point of view yeah she's figured it out so she's putting herself out there
Speaker: Yeah, you're absolutely right. And then man alive, Ross being so obnoxious on that phone call where he won't hang up with Julie about three inches from Rachel's face.
Speaker: I don't care the dynamic. That's just annoying. Like sitting that close to somebody. Then Rachel going on the date with that guy. I forget who he is. And then drunk calls Ross to let her know that she's over him. And that's closure.
Speaker: Yes. Then the next morning, Ross hearing the message. I love this scene. I don't quite know why, but I love the way Rachel jumps on his back to get the phone. Yes. And throws it in the sink. In the sink. And she's a few seconds too late because he hears that. um she's over him but he doesn't really know when she was under him and I just i just like that scene um then we go to where Ross comes in and tells Rachel that he's broken off with Julie like he's done it's always been her and they kiss
Speaker: And then to the planetarium, um which is so funny, that that whole scene. Then Central Park, where Rachel has found out about Chloe and Man Alive, does she pull off that angry, sad look on her face, like just heartbroken, yeah sitting at the back of Central Park.
Speaker: Then the beach house where they're kind of arguing about whether they want to get back together or not. And then I've just written down an arguing about breaking up in the girls apartment. I've kind of forgotten the exact context of that one. That's whenever they're... um Hang on.
Speaker: Yeah, can't remember quite what one. Maybe it's... yeah i just yeah just scribbled that note down but um oh it's and not that common and it is a big deal all of that with chandler oh that's right whenever it is whenever she's mad and she's yeah you know i can't believe i even it's after they went to the beach Yes. And then, yes. Okay. And then there, she's like, I can't even believe I thought about getting back to you. Fine by me. Because she says that, fine by me. that's right. So funny.
Speaker: Yes. Yes. We go from there. We're in Central Park for just a second. Rachel's taken her invitation with her. And it's she hasn't filled it out at this point. Obviously, it's weighing on her. And then I think it flashes back again.
Speaker: it does flash back again. All the way back. Yeah. All the way back. They're watching Rachel's prom video, which is one of the sweetest moments in this whole the whole series, I think. Yes. But Ross doesn't want to watch it because I think it just breaks his heart a bit. and then Okay. Yes. times. Because then after this is whenever she goes and marks the thing. So like she, this is, ah so for me, this was her point of view, right? is God, what did, you know, it was so sweet and so great. And then what a dumpster fire. And, you know, he cheated on me and then he wouldn't accept responsibility and all of that.
Speaker: And she's still thinking about it. She goes down there and then, she thinks back to whenever they're watching that video and she see, you know, and then that's because it's right after that is whenever she does it. Right. Yeah. That's when I think Monica's comes in and sitting with her and she's marked that she's not going to go. And she tells Monica it's just for the best.
Speaker: It's best that somebody stays with Phoebe. And there's just there's just this air of sadness that ah about the whole thing. Because she had said in the last episode, was it the last episode or two episodes ago, that she didn't think they'd really get married because...
Speaker: hey me You know, it's just another. They would end up together eventually. And then they break up because, yeah. And then, nope, they're getting married right now.
Speaker: Yeah, that was, yeah, two episodes ago. The one with all the haste, I think. You know, you're absolutely right. It's suddenly become very, very real um for Rachel. And we end this in Central Park again. Chandler, Phoebe, and Joey talking about, gets as we talked about Bamboozled, getting the video with all the British sites for Phoebe.
Speaker: And actually, this is a great idea because they could just go to London, sit in their hotel room, watch that, and rent British Die Hard because I bet it's good. LAUGHTER Yeah. Yeah, it ends ah ends on a fun note. But this, yeah, this is ah it's a tricky one to review. But I really like the way that you've, I think you're right, it's very strategic, the way they place them. And I know David Crane, the co-creator, I read a thing that he had, this was a very deliberate strategy of the show before this wedding, was to they were always going to have a reflective episode to show the depth of Ross and Rachel's complicated relationship. and they wanted to put this before ross walking down the aisle yeah just to build the layers of the story which which is just it's just fantastic um all right who okay oh yes time that yeah times i just i would like to give you an update about flying in your third trimester i am on the edge of my seat
Speaker: I bet you are. Yes. So a very, a healthy, non-high risk re pregnancy can usually fly domestic flights up to 36 weeks.
Speaker: But then after 36 weeks, girls stay on the ground. Okay. Okay. All right. Now, international flights, they start to like, hey, they'll often be restricted between 28 and 35 weeks because of the length of the flight and then the lack of like if something goes wrong, like having medical and being able to like land at a hospital, not going to happen.
Speaker: um But thinking about Phoebe and her three babies she's growing she's a high risk pregnancy that's true of course she's not going anywhere no she's not going anywhere her third trimester so there you go firmly on the ground i didn't think about the fact that of course all these rules would be amplified when you're carrying triplets yeah yeah good good thinking um your Gunther Central Park this week
Speaker: Okay, so
Speaker: I think it's so I have I'm having a hard time. It's got to be the Ross or Rachel but I think I'm going with Rachel. ah Yeah, as as am I. um Yeah.
Speaker: Tell me what I've got my thoughts but I'd love to hear your thoughts. Why did you end up choosing Rachel.
Speaker: I don't know. Just think because she's the best one in that episode. That's a good enough reason. yeah she you know and She made the hard decision because she could go.
Speaker: She could go i mean go. Spoiler alert. But she could decide to go. it she's not. i yeah I love the growth of Rachel. I mean, granted, we're at the end of season four, but going from kind of a ditzy, spoiled, you know, we only saw really that side in the beginning, all this growth of Rachel. But we see I think Jennifer Aniston plays...
Speaker: this kind of like I felt the sadness like I was buying into the way that that was portrayed like I felt really sad for the character for Rachel watching this and I think that's down to the acting and it's just so well done so for that uh Rachel for me how are we measuring this week's episode and invitations That was my thought. Yes. Yes.
Speaker: Yeah. How many are you giving this one? Again, weird one to judge, I think. um ah So i say eight and a half.
Speaker: Okay. I really, really like this episode. i like i like it a lot. And okay. And this is the part where i was like, I don't know what that says about me as a human, but I love a good episode.
Speaker: like ah reflection episode, a good recap, a good. And I love what I like about this one is that I feel like it was like you said, strategic, but it was intentional with it.
Speaker: you to kind of know like where the characters are at right now and and and and by the characters i mean ross and rachel and where they're at about each other and all of that so for me it's eight and a half i really really liked it So I've got to be honest, when we started that or when I watched it, I was like, ah I don't really think it's fine. It's a throwback episode. Two thoughts. One, the more we talk about it, the more I like it because you've take youve you've added a couple of layers of thought. So I'm going to stick with a 7.5. One of my favorite Frasier episodes ever is one that a lot of people don't like. It's called Crocktails and it's almost at the very end of the series. A lot of people don't like it because they they kind of do throwback scenes, but some of them are... It's it's throwbacks to scenes that were never shown.
Speaker: So the characters are dressed in like wigs and things to make them look different ages. And of people get kind of caught up in the wigs and things, but I just love it. I love the kind of throwback aspects, which makes me wonder why I didn't like this one more. But I mean, it still came in at seven and a half. So it's not a terrible. Seven wedding invitations and a piece of tissue is what going with. There you go. Yeah, because later crying. Yeah. No, don't worry. I've got my invitation. I've got my invitation. That's it.
Speaker: Well, next week it is the one with the worst best men ever. I am yeah almost certain this is where our Gunther Central Park name name comes in to play, um which which is just a lot of fun. But I'm so glad, like this, I wasn't sure what to think when we were going review this one, but it's actually been tremendous fun to to revisit it and see through your eyes. So yeah, a good a good throwback episode. Big fans of.
Speaker: Yeah. Well, thank you so much, Al. I always enjoy it. It's so good. Always fun. Thank you so much. Thank you for ah struggling through my exhaustion with me. We got it. Thank you for showing up as always. It's just been amazing. Well, yeah, next week, the one with the worst, best man ever. But as always, thank you, body. Thank you, body. Goodness, who's tired now? Thank you, everybody out there for listening to the Purple Door podcast.
