Introduction and Host Greetings
00:00:07
Garrett
Hello everyone. And welcome back to another episode of into the malediction. i am Admiral Tater joined by my fellow hosts, uh, Nick and Alan.
00:00:18
Nick
Hey, everybody, what's going on? This is Nick, or Fetty315 in the discords.
00:00:23
m3rcier
Howdy everybody it is Alan Mercer on the discords.
Exploration of Conclave of the Spheres
00:00:28
Garrett
And today's episode, we are going to jump into the conclave of the spheres. Um, but while we still have some short stories, uh, available to us as they come out, uh, we're going to cover, I think Legion, uh, of the whores today. I think that's the right name. I think Nick, you're taking this one, right?
00:00:47
Nick
Yeah, I'll read it. Yeah, Horrors of the Legion.
00:00:49
Garrett
There it is. I got it backwards.
00:00:50
Nick
yeah Yeah, so this is a really cool... it's yeah Again, these short stories are all pretty pretty brief, really easy reads. So we really get to see kind of the extent of the flesh sculpting that kind of goes on among the necromancers. if you know You play the game, you see the fallen cards are you know you skeletons and and zombies and stuff.
00:01:14
Nick
You do have things like flesh rippers that are obviously some kind of amalgamation, some kind of like creation. And this article, we really get in into see like exactly why and how um the Necromancers and Belios are manipulating flesh and how the different reasons, you know, it it makes a lot of sense that they are sculptors.
00:01:38
Nick
And when they raise their body or raise these corpses for a purpose, like make the body fit the task. And so, ah you know, if your task is to be a giant monster and, you know, kill things, then you make a giant monster.
00:01:58
Nick
ah So it it's really, it's if it was
Artistry in Necromancer Depictions
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Nick
a fun story. We really get to see, like, the artwork is, I think, the best part. Because really, it's hard to describe the horrors that make it sound spooky. ah You really just need to see the art.
00:02:11
Garrett
Yeah, one of my favorite pictures is the ah the archer, and his arm is the bow, and like his tendons are the string.
00:02:20
Nick
Yeah, the bowstring. It's, yeah, it's a really, like, I scrolled down and hit that.
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Nick
was like, oh, really like it.
00:02:26
Garrett
It's more gnarly than the ah the giant like flesh, ah I don't think it's flesh ripper, but the giant grotesque a flesh thing that explodes with a spider garden guy.
00:02:36
Nick
Yeah. that's look like
00:02:37
m3rcier
It's a slow stripper. And that ah that Archer is new artwork.
00:02:39
Garrett
it's flesh ripper, okay, perfect.
00:02:43
m3rcier
So if you're out there and you want to see some new artwork for the game, every short story so far has had one piece of new artwork.
00:02:51
Garrett
Perfect. Yeah. I figured I thought i was like, I haven't seen this before, so I am great. I have not seen it before.
00:02:57
Nick
Yeah. I'd love to see a new unit, a ranged unit for Legion.
00:03:02
Nick
Yeah. So, time will tell. Alright. But yeah, as always, please go check out these short stories. Give the give the website some love. These lore drops are are great, like five minute reads.
00:03:15
Garrett
And still, you gotta go through the, that's think it's called Echoes ah newsletter. as's for Right now, I think that's the only way to access these. So you gotta get the newsletter and then they're in the hyperlinked side of it.
00:03:30
m3rcier
Yeah, and i' have the link in the show description directly to it.
Lore and Creation of the Conclave
00:03:35
Garrett
All right, but for today's main course, we are going over the Conclave of the Spheres and the lore behind their Their faction, the military industrial complex of Silesia, ah they're pretty fun. lot of blue. i love blue.
00:03:54
Garrett
Blue and bronze and gold. So anyways, ah as we have talked about before, be whole thing that starts this conclave situation is Moloch.
00:04:07
Garrett
oh You know, one of the everlasting... who wanted to break off and basically find his own magic separate from Amiris.
00:04:18
Garrett
And that's kind of like how this all gets going initially. um Nick has been doing a ton of work on this episode, so gonna let him introduce us here into the Conclave.
00:04:32
Nick
no Well, thanks for the shout out there. Yeah, so the Conclave Spheres kind of goes back. It's not as tightly organized as some of the other, like we talked about the Order um in comparison, whereas the Order has a very distinct lineage directly to the Triumvirate.
00:04:51
Nick
ah The Conclave of the Spheres exists on the island or the archipelago of Quinvala and like the surrounding islands.
Formation and Significance of the Spheres
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Nick
And basically, it's a collection of these different colleges. They're each each called a seer.
00:05:05
Nick
And they kind of monopolized a specific like field of magic. am All this was started by Moloch when he just kind of went out there. And you know everything he was doing was exactly what said. He's trying to find a source of magic so he doesn't have to rely on the goddess. Because when the Everlasting drove the Thorn of Olam into the earth to to wound Amiri's. The Thorn itself acts as like a font for the Echo, straight from Amiri's. And he didn't want to be beholden to the Thorn.
00:05:40
Nick
ah He wanted his own source. So he basically redesigns um a new type of tool he calls the Oracle. And he points it upwards of the sky instead of into the earth and basically peers beyond like the veil and he recovers this blue substance called the astrum.
00:05:59
Nick
And it's just like pure. It's just like magic juice basically. Uh, and so,
00:06:05
Garrett
Yeah, I saw not to interrupt, but I, so this is one of the things I wondered about too. He was curious about, you know, where she came from. Um, cause he was like, she made me.
00:06:18
Garrett
So what made her? and I think that's what drove a lot of his curiosity towards the stars.
00:06:24
m3rcier
Yeah, and she's not, I mean, the fact that they were able to bind her shows that she's not a all-knowing and all-powerful. So that's probably what queued up his curiosity, because if he was able to design something to imprison her while Valka did something to blind her, then, you know, critical thinking.
Moloch's Oracle and Astrum Magic
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Garrett
Yeah. All right. Sorry. Nick, can anyone?
00:06:47
Nick
oh yeah sure yeah and uh yeah so he gets the the last room the oracle is kind of like a self-sustaining you know we don't really know exactly what it looks like um but i'm picturing this like big orb type like design that is just extracting liastrum from like the veil or beyond the veil like between worlds kind of thing um it is It's really interesting, and I really love this like conceptually because it it it gives us a lot of space for creativity, and like we can ask more questions. Like, okay, so there is something outside. the like There's another dimension. There's another something out there in the universe, while also kind of being vague enough to be like, well, we don't know what it is, though. We still don't know what else is out there.
00:07:36
Nick
ah So I really like this this kind of like a little peek into the cosmology of the world.
00:07:41
Garrett
Yeah, me too. um Especially since it seems like the Liastrum is almost equal in power to Amiri's magic on the planet itself. So it's it's really cool. Then the next thing that happens though, is he does get defeated, right?
00:08:03
Garrett
And with his defeat, he gets bound to the Oracle on the islands. and their whole society revolves around the fact that he's in there and they don't know correct me if i'm wrong nick but they don't know his souls in there do they uh because he's like i think it referenced like how he basically guides them from the shadows his faction prompts them
00:08:30
Nick
Yeah, I think maybe some of the Master, like some of the Nexi are probably aware because they know what like they know what a vestige is. um But I don't, yeah, i don't think it's explicit that like they they don't like worship it as...
00:08:47
Garrett
Not as much as like the order.
00:08:48
Nick
Yeah, not not like the or.
00:08:49
Garrett
It's not the same thing.
00:08:50
Nick
there's not There's not like a clear like focus on it. It is like the Moloch Oracle. and um And we do actually have a picture of it on the... ah Conclave, the lore primer page.
00:09:01
Garrett
Yeah. I was wondering if that was it. I was like, what you've described is what they drew. So i was like, that's, that's it.
00:09:05
Garrett
Right. Uh, it's like rotating, uh, uh, rings around it. It makes me wonder if the planet also has rings perhaps.
00:09:13
Garrett
And maybe like when they look at the stars, they can see those rings kind of like Saturn.
00:09:17
Nick
That's a great detail, actually.
00:09:20
Garrett
which would be interesting. We don't know. We don't know, obviously.
00:09:23
Garrett
But ah until somebody draws space. Hint, hint. Somebody draws some space. What's the planet called? um
00:09:32
Garrett
Agnar. That's what it I keep trying to think of that, Agnar. The other thing we haven't mentioned yet is Moloch also created a race. And this race is super important, and they show up everywhere in like every faction of the story.
00:09:45
Garrett
i In my head, I keep saying Arisir. bow at erasier how do you say it nick erasier yeah but what about you alan
00:09:53
Nick
I've been saying Arisir, I think. It's how we've... Yeah.
00:09:58
m3rcier
Ears here or elves.
00:09:59
Garrett
yeah elves yeah elves with extremely uh perpendicular ears they like go straight out man um there's no confusing them for humans uh but anyways the next thing um The actual
Economic Strategies and Control
00:10:16
Garrett
conclave. So the everlasting war happens, right?
00:10:21
Garrett
And they're sitting off to the side working. And I made the joke about being the industrial complex, but they really are. They they sell their sweet tools to everybody and the constructs they make and trying to stay out of the conflict themselves because they're more interested in growing their own power
00:10:43
Garrett
and learning knowledge from where they're at. They're less concerned with the actual continent and the power balance and more concerned with achieving something outside of, I don't want to say reality and into another dimension, but like they're clearly seeking a higher plane of enlightenment.
00:11:03
Garrett
And then they need money and stuff to do that and resources. And so they do that by trading the stuff they make to the other factions, like the Order and the Free Peoples.
00:11:12
m3rcier
Yeah, and it's not just the things they make. So, you know, the we'll talk about a little bit more about like the transportation network they maintain, the constructs. Not only do you get access to that by essentially paying them in resources or whatever, but they protect that by if you buy a construct or say you buy a dozen constructs because you want to attack the town next to you, it comes with conclave mages.
00:11:37
m3rcier
They're there to maintain the the instrument. or the construct or whatever, and they make sure you don't misuse it. And if you try and use it against the Conglave, those mages are there to to basically put you down with what you but what you paid for.
00:11:51
Garrett
It's like ah Raytheon contractors with ah Blackwater. um
00:11:56
Garrett
ah So anyways, ah but so the Eersere are married, but I guess the, I think it implies that like they can't make more Eersere.
00:12:09
Garrett
Maybe they can't have kids or something. And it seems like the ones that were made are it.
00:12:11
m3rcier
No, I think the numbers their numbers were greatly diminished in the fall, or yeah in the fall ah which means they you know they're having problems getting back up to the numbers they were before, which is the reason they started allowing non-Ursar into Conclave.
00:12:36
Nick
Yeah, i think it's, you know, we see this kind of trope a lot with um with elves in in many different media. Like when they have the long life spans, they also have um like fewer offspring or fewer children or like longer, you know, child childhoods.
00:12:52
Nick
And so they you always get these smaller populations where it's like, well, it takes like 100 years before you're technically an adolescent. So, you know, you don't have like the generational, you know, it's not as exponential on the generations.
00:13:06
Garrett
Right. And the other thing is, the Erosir don't seem to be as corrupted by the Ligastrum, but humans, when they use it, get absolutely ah consumed by the blue the blue other dimension magic.
00:13:22
Garrett
um that's Another thing... so Before we jump into how their society is organized or whatever, i was looking at the timeline. I like looking at that thing in the map. And one thing I noticed, it's only they brought up on this timeline, unless you guys have noticed anywhere else, is this this statement about the Callan Island.
00:13:41
m3rcier
It's the only place it's brought up.
00:13:41
Garrett
ah It's really weird.
00:13:43
m3rcier
that's That's the one...
00:13:43
Garrett
I don't know why they put that on there, and I want to know why. But it's like it's in the northeast. It's off the coast of Silesia. And it's just completely... vanished in 475 which is like 800 years before like you know what we're talking about right now in modern modern malediction time uh what is so
00:14:03
m3rcier
I mean, I know why it's there. It's there for people like you, I, Nick to set a eight inch hook in us and make sure that we don't go anywhere.
00:14:12
m3rcier
Like I want to know about that Island.
00:14:14
Garrett
So, like, there's something that, like, obviously it's important. They're not going to just leave it loose. So that'll be really interesting to find out later. But i it's got to be connected to the Conclave, I would assume, because it's, like, in their sphere of influence.
00:14:27
m3rcier
And it just vanished wholesale.
00:14:30
Garrett
Yeah. with And, like, there's nothing happening around that time either. Specifically important. There's people going into the Malediction and stuff, but it's, you know, nothing crazy.
00:14:41
Nick
Yeah, it makes me really wonder who did it too, because like you have other like great catastrophes and stuff that the Everlasting do during like the Everlasting War.
00:14:52
Nick
And like, you know, the fall of like Abysola, which we'll talk about next episode. But ah this is like not that long ago in the history of this world. So it's like, who did that?
00:15:02
Garrett
Yeah, it's... It gives me a Atlantis vibes, right?
00:15:08
m3rcier
Yeah, and then he put critical role vibes as far as like just completely disappearing.
00:15:10
Garrett
And then the other thing I...
00:15:15
m3rcier
We know nothing about it. There's a city on the critical role. I think it was maybe campaign two that just or not campaign two, but back in their the history of their campaign, it completely vanished.
00:15:26
Garrett
Interesting. i don't I don't know anything
Teleportation and Trade Expansion
00:15:28
Garrett
about that. I don't know, but I'll believe you. um And then the the other thing on the timeline is that directly relates to the conclate is the Miracos Towers of Transportation, which are the teleportation towers that allow them to teleport all across the continent.
00:15:46
Garrett
um And this so this thing got activated relatively recently.
00:15:51
Garrett
um i i would assume they were unactivated or shut down when the the fall happened, right, and the Oracle was damaged temporarily.
00:16:02
Garrett
And then 859 years later, they get him back working. And like Nick was saying earlier, there's like ah five spheres that are charge. And one of the spheres is in charge of this transportation.
00:16:14
Garrett
And so once these got activated, I'm sure they were making buku malediction dollars, whatever those are, ah to transport equipment and sales and people all around the place.
00:16:28
Garrett
And so it it mentions that they can go all over Silesia, but also perhaps elsewhere. So I don't know how these teleportation towers work, like if they have to have a mage somewhere to target where it's going, or there's some sort of like Stargate system where there has to be a gate on the other side for them to travel through.
00:16:50
Garrett
But maybe that's how they'll get to other continents or other things will come here through these teleportation stuff later on.
00:16:59
Nick
Yeah, and we do know there's a little tidbit in um so sear ambullu the the ones that maintain like the towers and stuff.
00:17:14
Nick
you see i want to find the exact wording because I do love it. The statistically significant chance of being irreversibly lost during transposition is considered an acceptable risk.
00:17:23
Garrett
Yeah, I mean, I would say so, right?
00:17:25
Garrett
Like, like hey, I can get this cannon over to you guys now.
00:17:29
m3rcier
Oh, so there there you go. Maybe the island of Callan, it had ah one of these transportation towers and it royally effed up and disappeared the whole island.
00:17:38
Garrett
Ooh, that's a good, ooh, I like that. I like that, potentially, right?
00:17:43
Nick
Yeah, I like the idea. i mean, it's lost, but doesn't mean it's destroyed. Like, you know, where is it?
00:17:47
m3rcier
just somewhere else.
00:17:48
Nick
so where It didn't go where it was supposed to. Yeah.
00:17:52
Garrett
So anyways, so that's that brings us to like where we're at now.
00:17:55
Garrett
So like there is still Nexi are like the... ah What's the equivalent word? don't know.
00:18:05
m3rcier
They're the bosses.
00:18:07
m3rcier
They're the bosses.
00:18:08
Garrett
Yeah, they're the bosses, right? The bosses are spheres.
Conclave's Meritocratic System
00:18:11
Garrett
They've elevated themselves. They're competing with each other. a bunch of tech bros in the malediction world. And...
00:18:20
Garrett
They control these major sphere corporations. And
00:18:28
Garrett
I assume most of them are probably, i have to read this word every time I say it, Assyria or whatever. But the main incoming a
00:18:40
Garrett
people are humans. And so... They've got this giant system where I guess they intake humans. and You don't have to be born on the island or whatever. You can just like come to the island and enter the system.
00:18:52
Garrett
and And Nick, what what is the system for these humans who show up and want to rise the ranks?
00:18:59
Nick
Oh man, it's, it's a hard life. So when you first get to the the islands, um you have to kind of prove like you, you have to work yourself up. It's a very meritocic meritocratic system.
00:19:13
Nick
ah So, you know, you have to prove yourself. Well, before somebody can accept you as an apprentice, you have to show some ambition. So you just take jobs, you just work for just anything you can get on the islands.
00:19:28
Nick
And then eventually maybe you'll get you know accepted, you know you get your your um application gets accepted and you get to join an apprenticeship. Well, it's you and a whole bunch of other students that are put under the tutelage of a mage, like our master.
00:19:42
Nick
And everybody's trying to get ahead. Everybody wants to graduate. And we don't really have numbers or anything. They don't go to the detail on it, but like it's kind of implied that not everybody's going to to finish. And so you know the master has direct determination over whether or not you as an apprentice will get to take your final exam.
00:20:04
Nick
So they, you know, I'm sure there's going to be a lot of kind of shady stuff going on and, you know, maybe there's going to be a bit of nepotism or favoritism.
00:20:14
Nick
i It's just, it's a cutthroat world for these apprentices who have to prove that they're the best and most willing to succeed. And then, yeah.
00:20:24
m3rcier
Yeah, I mean, they they they they need ah candidates for spellbound transformation, and they also need candidates for other experiments.
00:20:32
m3rcier
So not everyone can graduate. There's other avenues that you can serve the conclave via.
00:20:38
Garrett
yeah the atrician is wild and not only like because you can have nepotism or whatever but you also have to be skilled because of the the final test uh it's either you got it or you don't uh when you go into the the chamber and a stare down the actual Oracle and see if you can survive and harness the Liastrum power.
00:20:58
Garrett
um So, Alan, we've we've talked about this quite a bit. ah you want to Do you want to break down the spheres for us, the active spheres?
00:21:14
m3rcier
Yeah, let me see. each spear whoa Where do we have them listed? You broke out of the thing that he listed.
00:21:22
Garrett
There's a couple important ones. Obviously, the teleportation one. ah
00:21:28
m3rcier
Yeah, and there's one that is the most powerful, and they have been the most powerful for quite a while.
Spheres and Internal Politics
00:21:37
m3rcier
Give me just one second. I lost my place. Too many tabs open like you, Garrett.
00:21:42
Garrett
um a It's a curse.
00:21:45
Garrett
But the ah the transportation sphere, the sphere ambelis, I'm not sure what that word comes from or why it's the sphere of transportation.
00:21:57
Garrett
Nick, do you know why? or is that just a word they made up for it maybe?
00:22:01
Nick
am am I think they could be a bit of a play on like
00:22:11
Nick
Ambulate is to walk. um
00:22:13
Garrett
Oh, see, there you go. There you go.
00:22:14
Nick
you know that's like we go You go back to Latin, so you get into that.
00:22:15
Garrett
Okay. yeah, yeah.
00:22:17
Nick
um But you know the order was a lot more like Latin inspired. I don't see a lot of Latin in most conclave words.
00:22:25
Nick
So it could just be kind of, you know it was a fun word. They were kind of already on the, some you know obviously somebody's got some kind of education in classical languages writing all this lore. So somebody drives hat in their head and like, Amblus sounds like a good transportation. I think transportation when I hear Amblus.
00:22:43
m3rcier
All right, so you have sphere ambulus, which is the you know the transportation sphere. And then I'm going to, this word, I think I'm going to butcher it, sphere akinsa.
00:22:55
m3rcier
They are the Internal Revenue Service, essentially. They audit all the laboratories. They make sure everything is following the rules of the sphere.
00:23:08
m3rcier
And they're also the defensive magic people. So your Shield Mage, this is the sphere he comes from. Probably one of the best units in the game, in my opinion.
00:23:19
m3rcier
But other spheres, Chimer.
00:23:22
m3rcier
We've talked about them before in one of the short stories. They are your spellbound creators. Probably not a sphere you want to ah accidentally fail in because probably going to get turned into something.
00:23:38
m3rcier
And then sphere Sybil is the...
00:23:45
m3rcier
Is it gypsies? Is that the right word? they're the fortune tellers. So they they do scrying magic, mystical magic where they can be seers, that cut that kind of stuff.
00:23:56
m3rcier
And then as we talked about earlier, each sphere is led by a nexi, which is the the leader of that sphere. And then that nexi is part of the council.
00:24:06
Garrett
Yeah, so this fearybil the Sybil, the always being able to predict the future makes things difficult, I think, to write as far as lore or any story, really, because it's like, okay, if your character can predict a future, um how does that change how you're going write stuff?
00:24:06
m3rcier
And that was a wonderful word.
00:24:27
Garrett
Because it usually turns up into like, oh, I knew this all along. But maybe it's It says possible futures. ah So it's like, you know, seeing all the outcomes kind of like Dr. Strange or something.
00:24:40
Garrett
So, because I know they can look like at any mirrored surface and like glean information of what's going to happen. So <unk>s it that's because like their whole thing is information. So they're able to sell information to all these factions.
00:25:00
Garrett
um I wonder how that helps them. in the actual malediction, like looking for specific relics or legacies.
00:25:09
Garrett
Because unlike the other factions, the Conclave isn't trying to do anything like altruistic or like ah some higher calling inside the malediction. Like they're their only goal is to go into the malediction and get legacies and relics to pull out and see what they can do with those back on the islands to further...
00:25:31
m3rcier
Yeah, they're just hoarding power.
00:25:32
Garrett
the goals there. Yeah.
00:25:34
m3rcier
Yeah. And so those were the four of the spheres, but those aren't the only spheres because only the the top five spheres, the five spheres that are the most powerful actually make up the council.
00:25:46
m3rcier
All the other spheres don't have a seat, so they pretty much have to do what they're told. The only one that's always been on the council is s sphere Chimer. The other four seats have came and went between different spheres as they rise and fall. Chimer is the only one that has maintained their seat the entire existence.
00:26:04
Garrett
Yeah, because they're able to create these creatures, and so that's a pretty steady supply of weapons. The creatures are the weapons. So um I think that's a really good, like, just an unlimited supply of of created crap to send out. So,
00:26:21
Garrett
ah so okay, so after this, so we got the, so that's the breakdown of society. I don't know if you've said this, but the prophet or perish, is there, like, a... uh, what's the slogan slogan. Um, and so that's what they, that's what they do. Uh, anyways, uh, we talked about this a little bit. Uh, Nick went over how majors go to the top and then, and then we referenced the end, the end test. So that it's called the gaze of Moloch.
00:26:50
Garrett
And so if you go through all the training, And get your checklist checked off and the mage above you is like, all right, buddy, you've done it. Uh, you're ready to stand the trial to see if you can, uh, become a mage.
00:27:04
Garrett
Uh, they go in and, uh, they get tossed into this room and a bunch of liastrum comes out and they see if they can withstand it.
00:27:15
Garrett
And if they don't, they get consumed by it and disappear. And if they do withstand it, they get to come out with some blue eyes. and are part of the elite class, upper class, where they can now take advantage of their own apprentices and start profiting and researching.
00:27:35
Garrett
But yes. Okay, so now let's...
00:27:38
Garrett
Okay, Nick, let's... What... What is Liastrum? I know we talked about how he got it from the dimensions or the stars or whatever, but break it down and how does it keep ah and keep providing Because we know like in the Order, for example, their magic comes from siphoning the souls off their citizens to power their magic, and then Primal are using the corrupted magic of Emery And then these guys, how are they producing enough magic to keep the coffers full?
00:28:12
Nick
Right. So we we are basically kind of told that the Oracle is basically like an infinite supply. It's just continuously providing Liastrum.
00:28:24
Nick
And so the Conclave is able to like supply, ah but they basically carry it around in like sphere, like bottles almost.
00:28:34
Nick
But they they carry it with them for purposes. There is a little bit It's mentioned somewhere that mages, when they have to travel and they leave Quinvala, you know they'll they'll stock up on the Leastrum.
00:28:47
Nick
And they'll even... like and i don't like Again, we don't know exactly how they do it, but if they take like a living body, they're able to further like kind of extend the Leastrum that they have, like what's limited.
00:29:01
Nick
ah But it kills whatever they're using, like they're mixing with. So i don't know if it's like, you know, they need the blood and then they just add the blood to Liastrum and it kind of just takes the properties. But ah the mages just, it's all practicality.
00:29:15
Nick
So if you only have so much Liastrum on you, you have to either go back home and get more, or you have to find ways to extend it. um You know, there are relics and legacies and stuff like that, that, you know, we have like little bits here and there that Liastrum is like,
00:29:34
Nick
It's somewhere in the universe. like It's not all coming from the Oracle. But I believe you know for most, 99% of the Conclave mages, you have to go to Kunvala. You have to get Leastrom directly from the Oracle.
00:29:48
Nick
um Or you know they probably have shops of it everywhere where you know you can go buy it.
00:29:55
Garrett
Yeah, like limited supplies. Because we do know in the lore for Leandriel, think is her name, is ah at some point Moloch or one of his like students or somebody had created a a ball or a crystal of it that clearly doesn't run out.
00:30:15
Garrett
Because it's like her legacy or whatever. It's like this crystal of purely Astrum.
00:30:21
Garrett
So, uh, I, and like the modern mages, right. Might not just have the skills or techniques to create something like that. It's just like a, a self-sustaining engine that can be used at all times, but they do exist, which is obviously why, ah the conclave is very invested in going inside the malediction to finding more of a potentially another one of those crystals, right. That she has.
00:30:44
Nick
Yeah, yeah. And um I believe it's also mentioned in Lyanna's backstory that her legacy like continuously pours like a trip a trickle of Liastrum.
00:30:51
Garrett
Oh, that's right. Yes. Yeah.
00:30:53
Nick
So it's like there are artifacts out there that can produce it or, you know again, not I'm thinking it's like they're siphoning it out of the ether you know somewhere ah between dimensions and it's just pulling this steady stream of energy.
00:31:07
Garrett
Yeah. So if there's two, there's definitely more probably.
00:31:07
Nick
But we don't know if that... Yeah, exactly, exactly. So we don't know if Liastrum is like some kind of infinite source or if maybe... there is a ah limit on how much you can pull out of the universe.
00:31:18
m3rcier
Listen, it's it's just liquid radiation. They're getting it from space, remember?
00:31:22
Garrett
I was like, very well could be right.
00:31:25
Garrett
ah <unk> like That's why they're all glowing blue. They all have magical radiation poisoning.
00:31:31
Garrett
ah That's all there is.
00:31:33
Nick
Yeah, it's it's it's mentioned several times throughout the the Lord Primer that's like, yeah, like Lashroom's dangerous. Sometimes you just explode. Sometimes.
00:31:41
m3rcier
Yeah, I mean, there're there there happens to be a spell that does that. ah So yeah, it's mean it doesn't seem as oh i but say it doesn't seem as dangerous as Inverse's Echo because it's corrupted. But ah yeah, it it seems probably equally as dangerous.
00:31:59
Garrett
At least it doesn't make you want to like gouge your own eyes out and cut your own arm off.
00:32:05
m3rcier
It just makes you explode.
00:32:05
Garrett
ah So yeah. Okay. So let's talk about the characters, the seekers, the named, the name plot armor ah boys we got here. Polynor. So so we always talk about, we've talked about the corruption of it.
00:32:21
Garrett
Polynor has these awesome gauntlets. that make it so he doesn't get corrupted anymore, which as a human is is really important because now he's essentially ah can live a long, normal life or even longer. um He's still immortal and not immortal.
00:32:41
Garrett
Tell us about Polynor. Alan, you get to tell us about Polynor.
00:32:46
m3rcier
Oh, sweet. All right. So, yeah, he is a human mage. He, let me see. Does it actually get into it into the lore primer? Or does it dig into...
Exile and Influence of Polynor
00:32:57
m3rcier
Because he did...
00:32:57
Garrett
um with This is mostly from his story.
00:33:00
m3rcier
yeah he did, you know, so the the trial you have to undergo to become a master in the conclave is called the Gaze of Moloch. it's where like Garrett mentioned earlier, you actually go into the room where the Oracle is and you have to survive the Oracle, uh, whatever it decides to do to you. a lot of people, uh, either driven mad, disintegrated, corrupted, whatever, you know, the Oracle has fun with its, uh, its students.
00:33:31
m3rcier
Uh, but Paul Nor went in, he survived. He came out. Uh, he went to the malediction. He was not a secret at that time because, you know, the only the The only thing we know that makes you a seeker, the only requirement is that you have a legacy.
00:33:47
m3rcier
He did not have a legacy. Went into the Malediction. think he went in with a small cohort of mercenaries, all of which did not come back with him.
00:34:09
m3rcier
ah He rose to the ranks rapidly, was posed to become the de facto leader of the conclave. But when his apprentice, Landriel, accused the council of corruption,
00:34:25
m3rcier
All of his opponents within the council and elsewhere used that to try to lower his status, which they succeeded at because Polinor offered no defense.
00:34:38
m3rcier
He let them accuse him of everything and sat silently. Resulted in him getting banished to one of the cities that's closest to the malediction that they control.
00:34:50
m3rcier
which also happens to be the place where all of the relics flow through as they go back to the conclave. So, I mean, his opponents think they won, but did they? He controls all the relics now.
00:35:04
m3rcier
So he's in game, he is your quintessential caster. He likes to stay at the back and shoot, throw spells. He has built in mechanics to allow him to do more than one spell.
00:35:18
m3rcier
Per activation, he can cast spells. He's already casted and whatnot. He's a very powerful mage. He actually just won So shout out to Jabroni. He just won the June. I'm sorry, the May ever trials the everlasting. So he definitely can fight with the best of the seekers.
00:35:39
Garrett
Yeah, spell strike ability really stacks, ah just adds up over time. um All right, Nick, tell so I think the next seeker, Landrill, is it's the oldest seeker in existence, um I want to say.
00:35:57
Nick
She might be one of the oldest people in the on in the world, given her conditions.
00:35:57
Garrett
i Yeah, who's not an everlasting.
00:36:02
Nick
Yeah. Yeah, so Laundrielle, she's our dual order conclave seeker. So yeah, so her story as starts before the fall.
00:36:15
Nick
She was an Erysir back during like the Everlasting War. and We don't know exactly how, but she was recovered from the malediction encased in a blue crystal like coffin, and she was taken back to the Order of the Shattered Throne.
Landriel's Challenge to the Conclave
00:36:37
Nick
ah They worshipped her for like 800 years, I think, as a the Saint in Amber. ah She was just like in this like comatose like state, just never changing, never aging.
00:36:49
Nick
And Eventually, a conclave mage showed up and said, hey, you guys know that's crystallized liastrum, right? They're like, what are you talking about? We don't know we don't know what you're talking about. So the mage is like, well, I'm going to...
00:37:00
Garrett
He's like, it's blue.
00:37:01
Nick
It's blue, yeah. That's our thing. and So the mage was like, well, I'm going to... like I'm stealing this this whole thing. And he tried to like use a spell to teleport Alondriel and himself like back to Quinvala, but when the liastrum...
00:37:17
Nick
of the spell interacted with the crystal, it shattered and like, floats out and Laundrie like wakes up for the first time in like, I think it's like a thousand years or something. And the, all of the crystal like coalesced around her in this like little ball.
00:37:34
Nick
And it's the arc of lamentation. It's her legacy that she still, she still bears with her. ah That, know, makes her the oldest seeker just by her condition.
00:37:45
Nick
ah She was raised in the order. But, uh, you know, she had her, her, Oh, I think what it was is, uh, she was an Eros here and the order was like, we don't have Eros here in our, our society.
00:37:57
Nick
So you're going back to Kunvala where, where all the other elves live.
00:37:59
Garrett
Get out of here, Zenos.
00:38:02
Nick
uh, she went to Kunvala and, you know, she had issues with the order, uh, but she still had like her kind of like this upbringing of like, she had, i don't know how long she lived in, um,
00:38:17
Nick
like wherever, whatever city she was in. But she seemed to have some kind of like sense of righteousness, um sent a sense of like right wrong. So she goes to the conclave and she starts learning and studying and she becomes a you know, apprentice to Polonor.
00:38:31
Nick
um She starts being like, hey, you guys are kind of like saying all this Leastrom stuff is like perfectly safe. There's nothing wrong with it. ah But like, it's clearly dangerous.
00:38:42
Nick
Like you guys are just acting like it's the best thing ever. There's no downsides. And so she just like approached like the council directly. She was calling calling out for everybody um to, like somebody need to be held accountable for like lying to people about the the dangers of Lyastrum.
00:38:58
Nick
And so Polynor's opponent saw an opportunity and basically flipped it around and put Polynor and Landriel on trial for making accusations and trying to you know trying to shake things up ah She basically said, like, okay, so you guys are now just making stuff up about us. So, obviously, I'm correct.
00:39:19
Nick
Obviously, there's something here you guys are trying to cover up. So, she took her legacy, she left the Conclave, and now she's trying to... yeah i don't know I don't really know if her goal is, like, to bring down the council, but it's trying to prevent, like, the abuse of the Astrom.
00:39:39
Nick
And we see that kind of in game because like her her legacy, like you know everything's about triggering counter spells, redirection, protection. So like all of her stuff is you know magic, using magic to prevent and counter.
00:39:51
Nick
And kind of like you know her her legacy itself is described in lore of like absorbing Liastrum.
00:39:57
Garrett
Yeah, it's almost like her goal is to, when she goes into the malediction, is just trying to collect things so other people can't collect them.
00:40:05
Garrett
Just a free agent. Maybe she lives in the free cities. We don't really know where she lives now, but I would assume, like, probably in the free cities. ah Working both sides.
00:40:16
m3rcier
I'm go with a bright hold. And the reason is I'm gonna go with bright hold because, uh, well, the bright hold custodians, their ability allows them to turn a hit into a, a grace, which fits perfectly with her.
00:40:19
Garrett
What'd you say? Oh, yeah, yeah, possibly, right?
00:40:32
m3rcier
Cause if they're by her, you hit her, they make it a grace. She gets to punch you back in the face. So I'm going bright hold.
00:40:39
Garrett
Oh, that's a really good call. I like that. That's perfect. um And then, so yeah, so she's kind of like free agent, a righteous free agent.
00:40:48
Nick
Yeah. she She strikes me as one of the few people that are described in this world as like genuinely like good natured.
00:40:58
Nick
Because even some of the Holy like Order ah characters are kind of like maybe a little yeah a little pompous, a little little overzealous.
00:41:10
Garrett
The next one we're going to talk about is the Countess, Merida Umberland.
Countess Merida's Rise
00:41:15
Garrett
So she's a human from the Legion, ah the Fallen's area. So she's from some family.
00:41:25
Garrett
And... I guess she's like she's you know the classic heroine archetype. Too headstrong, can't be put into an arranged marriage, blah, blah, blah. ah So anyways, we're going to talk more about her in the next episode we do for Legion the Fallen. But ah she is a dual conclave legion.
00:41:46
Garrett
And she was... ah Basically betrayed by her family and then betrayed by Virondol. And then she meets a a dead Asiri, a fallen one, right?
00:42:03
m3rcier
Yeah, she well, she was in the library, right?
00:42:04
Garrett
and it Yes. And so she like shows her information, essentially. But she's got to escape. And so she fakes her own death.
00:42:17
Garrett
and goes to ah the Conclave as a student. And so she works her way up and she finds a legacy that's called the Soul Stitcher, which the Conclave mages never did anything with. and And they never did anything with it, mostly because you know they don't understand how the magic from Anushva works essentially because they're not raising people from the dead. They're constructing things, which is the different to them.
00:42:55
Garrett
So they're not molding, flat they're not raising dead creatures. that They seem to need to have live things to create their constructs. And so she gets this and she puts two and two together and is like, oh, I can combine Leastrum with ah the ability to be a necromancer.
00:43:15
Garrett
And so She becomes a mage. I think she passes, I guess, the trial, I think. And then bounces, goes back, and uses Liastrum.
00:43:28
Garrett
I'm not sure how she gets more of it. ah That's a really good question, actually. If she lives in the Umberlands, which is like the southern part of... the Legion, because we know we just talked about how you have to have the Astrum like a source of it.
00:43:43
Garrett
So it's I don't know how she has enough of it to do what she's doing. And like, and possibly Yeah, right.
00:43:48
m3rcier
She probably pays for it. I mean, they're majors.
00:43:52
Garrett
Like, like goes out there and like goes the teleport machine and and just orders like a a barrel of it.
00:43:52
m3rcier
they'll They'll sell it.
00:43:58
Garrett
And then a it takes it back down, or has her like her necromanced undead go up there and pick it up and bring it back down for her. But and essentially, you she's living by herself ah down there, surrounded by the undead, and she ventures into the malediction um more out of curiosity and self-fulfilling wishes of finding things.
00:44:24
Garrett
So she's on her own. Not really a, you know, she's not part of the Legion. She's her own thing with her own like castle. So, which I think is pretty cool.
00:44:36
Garrett
um Anyways, the next person we got is Leena. Unless you guys had anything to say about the Countess.
00:44:43
Nick
I mean, I really like Amor to her. She's one of my favorite seekers, like lore wise.
00:44:50
Nick
um But I know we're going to talk more about her because she's she's got a lot of stuff with Vorondahl that we're to about in the Legion episode.
00:44:54
Garrett
She does. She does.
00:44:57
Garrett
All right. Who wants to take Leena?
00:44:59
m3rcier
I'll take Lyanna.
Lyanna's Dual Identity Tragedy
00:45:01
m3rcier
So she is our resident Primal and Conclave Seeker. A human mage, currently encapsulated living within Karmomok, which is a Primal Construct.
00:45:16
m3rcier
But she was an apprentice in the Conclave, i guess kind of a mirror to Landriel. She knew the corruption, she could see it. She did not care.
00:45:26
m3rcier
She was going to use that corruption to empower herself. she did want to become nexi uh through i guess merit through manipulation however she achieved she got to a point where she could study within the inner chamber of the oracle which is you know reserved for those that are trusted and have the skill set and she found uh apparently hidden chamber that had legacies in it, and inside of that chamber along with the legacies was a warning not to use them.
00:46:03
m3rcier
But again, she's not like Laundrielle. She wants power, so she chose to use them, or at least used one of them, which is the legacy that can produce lives from.
00:46:15
m3rcier
She embedded it within her own flesh, showed that it could not be taken from her, which poisoned her and continues to poison her, which is why she is uh entombed in karmarmak and then the karmarmak thing is it's kind of a i guess you could say karma because she made a deal with a primal shaman like we talked about last episode ah and the shaman had no intentions on helping her his his or her entire goal was to encase niana in the construct
00:46:50
m3rcier
And then when it drove her mad and got rid of her, uh, her will, he would have a seeker empowered construct. So he would become very powerful or she, but Liana's will overcame the contract.
00:47:05
m3rcier
So she is in my mind, she is definitely an embodiment of both, sides of that house, uh, in game. is.
00:47:17
m3rcier
fun to play but car marmock is a like we talked about last episode a glass cannon uh i don't think we covered it last episode might i just missed it but when she slumbers car marmock does is in control of himself and the shamans have noticed that he is becoming more and more uh i guess self-aware is that the right word unlike other constructs so that Lee Eyestrom and even maybe he's siphoning part of Leona herself.
00:47:51
m3rcier
The construct is becoming more and more of its its own self.
00:47:55
Garrett
yeah it's kind of like uh the way i looked at it was some of the more sophisticated constructs back on the islands can achieve some sort of sentience so perhaps because he's just like constantly exposed to the astrum it's slowly ah creating some sort of mental mind for him
00:48:19
m3rcier
Yeah, which, by the way, the Council of Nexi will outright deny, probably murder you if you try and present evidence that any construct is getting set in its.
00:48:29
Garrett
Yeah, yeah. Another thing I don't...
00:48:31
m3rcier
That just does not happen. they're They're all constructs. They have no will. They will do your bidding. They will not turn on you. So say the Nexi.
00:48:44
Nick
So do we think the Conclave is like the most evil faction?
00:48:48
m3rcier
I don't know if most evil or just the most nonchalant.
00:48:55
m3rcier
like I don't think they actually care.
00:48:58
Garrett
I don't think they're evil at all. um ah Yeah, I agree with Alan.
00:49:00
m3rcier
They just don't have morals.
00:49:01
Garrett
I think they're completely on the train of garnering resources from the other factions so that they can do something elsewhere.
00:49:15
Garrett
Like they don't care about Silesia at all.
00:49:18
Garrett
maldiction The Malediction is only a a mine to be stripped. and everyone else is our customers. That's it.
00:49:32
Garrett
I think the most evil are still the order.
00:49:37
m3rcier
I mean, I don't know if you can say any of them are like the most evil or the most good because all of them have good and bad.
00:49:44
Garrett
Oh, there's a hierarchy. Listen, there's a hierarchy for sure.
00:49:47
m3rcier
I mean, but like Sigreth, she's probably not actually a bad person. She probably believes what the Order is doing is good. She's just not fully aware of all the crap they're doing.
Moral Debate and Faction Motivations
00:49:58
m3rcier
Same thing with some of these other Seekers.
00:49:58
Garrett
good people good people always work ah if people always think they're doing the right thing uh if they're from that place right um but like even the like the primal almost can't even be they're like they they they can't be guilty because they don't even know what they're doing is wrong because their whole spirit is corrupted by ah the bad
00:50:05
m3rcier
Oh yeah, the the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
00:50:27
Garrett
magic coming out of akra's heart or whatever and but like the people in charge of the are actively the people in charge the order actively doing things that they know are wrong
00:50:32
m3rcier
Yeah, but people join the primal and then get corrupted.
00:50:39
m3rcier
Oh, yeah. The people in charge of the order are 100% evil.
00:50:43
Nick
but Well, and but to counterpoint, the people in charge of the Conclave are also putting, like you know, they put their own needs and wants before anybody ah inababus in the same and a very similar sense to the rights of the Order.
00:50:54
m3rcier
Oh, absolutely. Okay.
00:50:59
Garrett
But they do offer a path to citizenship.
00:51:06
Nick
The Order has their own version of that too.
00:51:08
m3rcier
Through getting turned into a Tibera.
00:51:10
m3rcier
I think the leaders of all three ah are all four of the factions are probably pretty ah pretty messed up people, including the the you know the one we haven't talked about. I will say, though, out of all four of them, I think the Legion is probably the one that you could could say is closer to being good guys, which is odd.
00:51:29
m3rcier
But that's my take on them.
00:51:33
Nick
Yeah, we'll we'll have to.
00:51:33
m3rcier
Well, I guess let's let's go with that. and Nick, what is your hierarchy? One, two, three, four.
00:51:38
m3rcier
one one be One being the most evil, four being the most good. let your List them out.
00:51:41
Garrett
We really can't do this until after the the next episode.
00:51:44
Nick
Yeah, we really should. Yeah, maybe we should. we well were We can revisit this at the end the next episode.
00:51:48
m3rcier
yeah let's do Yeah, let's do the next one here.
00:51:49
m3rcier
well I'm going write down a note. ah Evil ranking factions.
00:51:56
Garrett
Now, before I forget, last thing want to talk about was on the actual map of Silesia. I think it's really cool that the Conclave have outposts all around, accept except for they don't have an island outpost outside of the Order.
00:52:15
Garrett
Excuse me. Which I think is interesting. They do have cities on the coast in the Wistrel, but like they have a city like right next to the Primal.
00:52:27
Garrett
Two cities, actually, in Primal Territory, and a city that's like probably a trade outpost right outside Abyssola.
00:52:35
m3rcier
Well, I mean, they may have had a, where's the map? Let's see. They may have had an island city outside of the order.
00:52:39
Garrett
and they might have had something on a on a but cat well calum is on the northeast coast so it had to be uh next to the quinvala islands or whatever
00:52:41
m3rcier
You know, Kallen might've been their island over there, but it's poofed.
00:52:51
m3rcier
Well, there's like, it could have been near Brighthold, which is kind of near the orders area.
00:52:54
Garrett
yes yes definitely could have been
00:53:00
Nick
I just imagine they can't get too close because the order is constantly um expanding their territory.
00:53:05
Garrett
Yes, they're very aggressive and for for probably great customers. Right. Um,
00:53:12
Nick
Probably. Well, they're they're probably great customers at a distance, right?
00:53:15
Garrett
yeah, I bet it's amazing to sell to both the Legion and the order. I, like I don't think the primals are obviously buying anything. Right.
00:53:27
m3rcier
I mean, not Thunder Steps group, but Engor's group and some of the other ones might be.
00:53:27
Garrett
I can't. right Oh, maybe, maybe goes to make a deals. Uh,
00:53:34
m3rcier
Engor's like, I can't charge through that teleporter. I have to be able to charge. So I'm walking.
00:53:40
m3rcier
ah did you the The new video that Bido is the the host of, the official malediction, like how to play stuff.
00:53:48
m3rcier
ab's ABC, always be charging.
00:53:51
Garrett
Oh, it's a picture.
00:53:52
m3rcier
I love that. Yeah.
00:53:55
Garrett
Uh, oh my gosh. Uh, anyways, so that's, that's a conclave for now, for now until, until we receive further lore and word.
Closing and Merchandise Tease
00:54:03
Garrett
Um, Last thing i wanted to mention now that are done listening to us, uh, another podcast for malediction is coming out. It's called the critical grays. Uh, it's, it's by, uh, Bodie and your boney jabroni. Sorry.
00:54:19
Garrett
I know we all know Bodie. He's an old Armada player. We're good friends with him. And, uh, jabroni is a really good player. I think Alan said he's from Ohio, is pretty cool. Close to Kentucky.
00:54:30
Garrett
Anyways, so give them a listen. We're not, I don't think any of us will listen to their episode yet. Sorry, guys, but we'll get to it.
00:54:37
m3rcier
It just came out like two days ago. so
00:54:39
Garrett
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:54:40
Garrett
we'reless We're busy people, okay? ah ah Other thing I wanted to mention, um stay stay tuned for ah some official malediction gear.
00:54:53
Garrett
Um, some really cool acrylics coming from Admiral Tater. Wanted to tease those a little bit. Uh, those are coming and I'm really excited, uh, to put some stuff out. Um, anyways, moving on from that, uh, we've got events.
00:55:08
Garrett
Alan, take it away.
00:55:10
m3rcier
Yeah, but before the events, though. ah So on my YouTube channel, I run in giveaways. I'm going to include comments on any of the May, June, or July podcast episodes for Into the Malediction.
00:55:24
m3rcier
So just drop us a comment. ah you know Whatever that podcast, you know like last podcast we had tell us which talker you'd want to be part of. This time, tell us which sphere you'd rather be part of.
00:55:38
m3rcier
That will get you one entry into the into the giveaway. but events so Events, this thing, we still have the the June Trials of the Everlasting is going to be Allegiance, which is 2v2.
00:55:54
m3rcier
Starts on June 7th, goes to June 27th. ah If you don't have a partner or anything like that, get on Discord. There are people looking for partners. Get signed up and you can play against Garrett and I. We are playing as a team for this event.
00:56:13
m3rcier
The Lone Star Open is August 1st in Dallas. I'll be the TO there. Gen Con is July 31st and August 2nd. Registration is open.
00:56:24
m3rcier
Wanted to re restate that the 2v2, the Allegiance, which is on Friday, July 31st, it's a total of 16 seats. So ah eight teams.
00:56:37
m3rcier
Each person on the team needs to buy a ticket. So there are only 16 tickets. So you have to buy them. they They wanted us to put that out there because there's been a little bit of confusion about it.
00:56:49
m3rcier
And then on Saturday, the 1v1 has a total of 13 or 32 seats. Sorry. August 29th and 30th, Tacticon in Denver, Colorado. And then I am running a demo on June 13th at Copperhead Brewery in Houston.
00:57:06
m3rcier
I think that's all of our events.
00:57:08
Garrett
Love it. Love it. Well, gents, thanks again for another great episode. And thank you, listeners, for taking the time to listen to us. Until next time, I've been Garrett and you guys.
00:57:26
Nick
thanks Thanks for having us.
00:57:26
Garrett
All right, goodbye, everybody.
00:57:28
Nick
See everybody. See you next week.