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Speaker: Welcome to the Italian football podcast. Staying on Strikers now, so many so many transfers, transfer stories at the moment. So, Rasmus Heuland, Manchester United have already agreed personal terms with Heuland. We know that Heuland wants to make the move. He's made that very clear.
Speaker: Now, this week is accepted by everyone that Manchester United are going to make an official bid for Heuland this week. So the question is, it seems like it seems like Atalanta have already found their replacement for Heuland as well. And that's El Bilal Tour de Almería, although they face competition from Everton. So it looks like, yeah, Atalanta are, you know,
Speaker: accepting that Hoyland, there's a good chance he is going to leave for Manchester United. The question is though, what should the transfer fee be? How much should Atalanta be asking for? Because we've seen different numbers go around for this. We originally
Speaker: you know, it seemed like United were going to kind of bid around 35, 40 million. That was deemed way too low and that Atalanta were looking for more around about 60. But then we've seen recently that actually Atalanta are not actually asking for more closer towards 70, 80 million. So, you know, we don't know. We'll see later this week when the bid comes in what they're asking for and what United are prepared to pay. But how much do you think that Atalanta, how much do you think he's worth and how much do you think Atalanta should charge United for?
Speaker: I think this is so difficult to talk about because we're talking about a player who's really only had one good season. He's still very young, incredible talent. All of that is true. But, you know, usually based on the transfer window, I mean, I'd say Vlawic for how much he joined you before. That's where I'd probably charge.
Speaker: So you're talking 70 to 80 with add -ons and bonuses. Yeah, something like that. That's where you get, if you go, that's the level you're at if you're trying to, you know, usually for these kind of young strikers, that kind of mode. But I mean, that's, you know, it is a big risk because Vlawic has yet to fulfill his potential.
Speaker: That's what I mean. I mean, the Vlalovic is almost like a warning because Vlalovic had achieved more and had been playing for much longer than Huyland at this level. I mean,
Speaker: Wlawicz had a whole year where he was second or third top scorer in all of Europe when he went for the 80 million to Juventus. Whereas Heuland, I mean, you say he had one season, he's really only had half a season because if you look at his numbers, virtually all of his goals, nearly all of his goals, even though you could clearly see there was a big talent there in the first half of the season, all of his actual tangible achievements came
Speaker: in 2023. And he's been on fire in 2023. He scored 15 goals in 2023 for Atalanta and for Denmark. And you can see
Speaker: you know just looking at him physically he's already a man you know he already bullies defenders physically and you know he's so quick we saw that burst of pace that he did against Laxio that time and that was probably his best performance and he has that incredible left foot you know just like the player that he is compared to which is
Speaker: Erling Harland, he's compared to him under 11 seconds. He does the 100 meters in. So, I mean, you can see that he won't have a problem physically with the Premier League, with the intensity and stuff. But yeah, it is a short period of time.
Speaker: And there's always, yeah, there's always a risk also with youngsters as well. Are they ready? Is he going to be ready? Is he going to be, if he's going to be many not, it's number nine straight away. Well, the difference is this, and that is that Edicton Harg knows, has worked with young players, you know, is good with young players. We know that he can get players to take the next step. He improves players regardless of how old they are. We've seen that with him, right? So I think that's one thing that I think is
Speaker: is comforting if you're Manchester United. For Atalanta...
Speaker: They know how to skin and fleece Premier League clubs, and they know how to skin and fleece anyone who wants to buy their players, period. But I'm starting to wonder if the jig is up soon, because, you know, between Kouluszewski and the other Swede, whose name eludes me now, you know, when he went to United
Speaker: What's his name? Oh, Elanga, Anthony Elanga. He's being sold. He's on the brink of being sold. Well, exactly. He's not been very, very good, has he? I never rated him, to be honest with you. I never got the fuss of him. He's a classic example of youth merchant that, just because he's young, everybody suddenly rakes them.
Speaker: Yeah, I mean, we know Atalanta, how well they've done. I mean, if they do sell him for this big money, again, it just shows what an incredible job Atalanta do in scouting these players. And if they get Bill Altore, I mean, who knows, he might be the next one. I mean, they're just so good at discovering these players.
Speaker: Sorry, I meant Amadiello, who played for Atalanta and barely played and then went to Manchester United, not the Swedish Elanga. But Amadiello was sold to United for 40 million.
Speaker: Yeah, and he'd only paid about 270 minutes of seeing this. This is what I mean, like they know how to fleece clubs for talent. It's also, and I was discussing this the other day, separately, is that, you know, Atalanta Gasparini is a system -based coach. Yes. And there is always the risk with system -based coaches that players only play well in their system. In that system. And they don't. I mean, I don't think it'll be the case for Hoyland. We've seen how well he's done for Denmark, and he's been on fire for Denmark as well.
Speaker: He doesn't come across as a system -based player at all, but there have been so many Atalanta players who have gone to other clubs and they haven't performed.
Speaker: they haven't fulfilled their potential once they've left Atalanta. You can go through so many, Galliadini, Robin Gosens. I mean, Ahmed Diallo, I guess, is another one, isn't he? Frank Kesier, even for a while,
Speaker: And even Kesier probably hasn't reached the sky high. He hasn't done it at Barcelona. He did well with Milan winning the Scaretto with them. But even... Cristante, Manchino... Manchino is only now. Gianluca Manchino is only now coming into it. Galliadini... Romero as well. He's been decent at Tottenham and obviously he's very well for Argentina. But even he hasn't fulfilled as well. So, I mean, there's that as well. I do think he's an incredible talent though. And...
Speaker: The fact that, you know, you know, let's not undersell him again. But Atlanta won't know. No, no, they don't. They know how to sell players and they know how to charge for their players and they don't need to sell as well. They're profitable. Yeah, they are. They run really, really well. I mean, I think you said it best when you describe them pound for pound, the best run club in the world. And I think that's that's a very, very good way to describe it.
