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The Real Life Pulse of Play: A Toy Industry Update with the Toy Insider’s James Zahn
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Every year we have the pleasure of attending Sweet Suite in New York City, hosted by the Toy Insider. This year we got a chance to sit down with friend of the pod and returning guest, James Zahn AKA @Therockfather to talk trends, industry updates, and the nearly 20 year history of the show.
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Podcast Introduction
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Are you ready kids? Get your parents permission, check your mailbox and grab your shopping cart. It's time for the Adventures in Collecting podcast. I'm Eric.
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And I'm Dave. Welcome to Adventures in Collecting.
Interview with James Zahn
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Where we talk toy news, culture and hauls. Along with our journeys as collectors.
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Hello everybody and welcome back to Adventures in Collecting. We are here with the Rock Father himself, James Zahn, editor in chief of the toy book, Toy Insider. he This man is literally the pulse of play.
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That's one way to put it. There we go. I will we make a slight correction. ah I'm senior editor of the Toy Insider, oh but I'll take the promotion there because I do have the top spot for Toy Boy. But that's okay because we do all these things. We do the Pop Insider. We do the licensing book.
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We do it
Overview of Sweet Suite Event
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all. So, James, where are we? Right now, we are at the 17th Sweet Sweet event. This is in New York City. This is an invite-only event.
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It's not a trade show. This is a party. It is a toy party. For me personally, I've been coming to this. My first one was 10 years ago, 2016. twenty sixteen Wow. I was not an official employee yet, and I left and became one, and they haven't gotten rid of it It's been a decade, so i think I'm in good shape here in that respect.
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But this is pretty awesome because this event has grown, and I know you guys have been coming for a number of years, too. Yeah. The name of this event, Sweet Sweet. Sweet with a W, is Sweet with a U. So where that comes from, the original Sweet Sweet was literally held in a hotel suite with a handful of toy companies, and there were suites available for the attendees.
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So that's where the name came from, and now it is this giant event where we've got about 65 toy makers, game makers of all sizes, from the big boys like Hasbro, Spin Master, Mattel, all the way down to re new and emerging companies.
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So we have a lot to see here. It is a hands-on event. I'm kind of like looking around as we go. I see someone in an inflatable dinosaur suit over there. There's giant butt walking around. that There was a giant butt walking around from Goliath. Pikachu. Crazy Aaron is here, if you know Thinking Cutty. There's a big bouncy house over there. and you know, he that's just the start. There might be some surprises in store here over the next five hours but because this as we sit here, this is the beginning of this thing.
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And this is a five-hour event. And basically, all of the creators that are coming to this event, because that's what it's all about, is connecting media and we've seen this evolve too years ago it was it was bloggers and instagramers and youtubers and influencers and now we say creators because we're sort of in this creator economy which you guys are a part of and all you folks watching you're a part of it too this is where everybody's going to get to go hands-on
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with all of these great new toys and games and some toy adjacent products and really get to discover the things that they love then in turn share that with their audiences.
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So it's a lot about product discovery. and going hands-on in a way that you don't get to do necessarily at a trade show. So this is party. Yeah, and that's something that we look forward to every year. It's definitely one of my favorite events every year. It goes on the calendar right away. Yep, yep. And there's always something like fun and exciting and new to find.
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And I think Eric was going to ask, like what are some of the kind of new trending yeah things
Toy Industry Trends
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that are here? Yeah.
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There's a few trends that we've seen within the business this year. And it's been an interesting year because the toy industry in general is having a tremendous year. It's up double digits, but the drivers of that sales growth, and I should say too, it's not just sales.
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The three metrics that the business follows are dollar sales, unit sales, and ASP, which is average selling price. So I'm giving you the inside baseball right here if you don't know about this.
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So dollar sales, of course, is like if you say the toy industry did $20 billion, dollars you want that number to be higher. Average selling price is the average price of a toy sold.
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You would like that to be a little bit higher. And then that's also like your basket count too, like you're shopping more items, that type of thing. That leads to unit sales. So it's a bad thing most of the time if the dollar sales are up and unit sales are down, which we saw at times during supply chain crises, during the pandemic.
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where you would occasionally see you're selling fewer toys for more money, inflation. You never want to see that. All three metrics are up this year.
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That's good. dollar sales, ASP, unit sales all up. The biggest drivers are things like squishies. It's all about the squish. Yep. Has taken over my house. Yeah.
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The big gun, of course, in that category right now shilling with neato. Yep. everybody on social keeps asking me when when's my favorite store gonna get neato don't know i can tell you that the retailers um they're actually on a holding pattern right now shilling is not taking more orders for neato until september but any that have been placed are going to be filled they are here in the building with us but that's not the only game in town with squishies you see like the big fruits and vegetables and stuff and we have
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um kind of a company you probably don't know their name, K-Crap Global. They have a new line big squidge and they're and they've got them over there. And then Sunny Days Entertainment, they have actually two presentations here. They have their own booth, and then they're part of our sort of Americana 250th birthday celebration because they have a lot of stuff that's in the squishy tactile range that ties in to sort of that patriotic thing that we really just saw kind of coming off of Fourth of July.
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So there's a lot of the tactile play. course, Crazy Aaron with the Thinking Buddy. company just got bought by Goliath and they're over there with Goliath right now with all kinds of different doos that people can play with. So that is actually a huge driver.
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And um Those categories, along with puzzles and games, are up again this year. um And of course, I know we, in our little microcosm, we like to talk about action figures and collectibles, and that's still around. That does not do as big a business as necessarily like the collector community would like to think that it does in the grand scheme of things.
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But we got some newness in that here too. Playmates Poise in the house. Again, that red Power Ranger keeps floating by behind us. And they've got the the latest and greatest from the Power Rangers franchise coming out.
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Then we've got Bandai just brought out a bunch of really cool Godzilla stuff. Yeah, really excited to see that. I actually just before I got here, I had gotten some... some of their product samples at my place and uh i gotta say they're a lot of fun the gods burst and all of that yeah um so you're gonna see some of that cool stuff in here i also really love loops lab you guys familiar yeah so loops lab is a prime example of a company that sort of came out of nowhere it was small and in just a year
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we've seen these folks take on just such a bigger profile in the industry. They won from Toy Book. We have our Pulse of Play Awards. They were a Pulse of Play Award winner.
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And now they're back here at Sweet Sweet again with a really awesome street presentation. They've got a DJ over there. And if you don't know Loop Slab, this is...
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hands-on tactile play with music. So you get these sets and you get these little figurines so you can collect band members and you put them on the bass and you can actually make your own music by looping.
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Of course, you see these people online that are that are are looping artists. That is a type of music. And now kids and adults, I mean really folks of all ages, are discovering new ways to create music and to foster new interest
Evolution of Toy Presentations
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in that. Like you might play with a toy like Loop's Lab, which is a music creation platform, and then decide, hey, want to go out and I want to learn drums or keyboard or guitar. So it kind of spawns some other idea. It's cool because it almost plays off of the Tonys craze. The NFC, Tonys playable music and you graduate from learning to put one on to play a song to then actually making your own music with similar technology. Yeah, and I think the other cool thing too is we've seen their presentation evolve over the years from being new at a Dwayne Insider event to now where it's become an establishment. The other thing that's really interesting is, you we've said this before on the show multiple times, I think we even talked about it, you when we had you on, know, during the tariff crisis.
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What's old is new again. And like, you know there's this constant conversation about, you know, technology and what it's doing to toys and, you what that means for kids and play. It always comes back to things that are tactile. I mean, I think about, you know, building block-based toys or like when fidgets, You know like fidget spinners were like a big thing. Like it always comes back to things that are tactile that, you know, kind of pull you out of the whatever rut you're in and help you focus.
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That's true. And and that leads into actually some of the other big trend areas that we've seen this year. Screen-free tech, which things we just spoke about fit right into that. Yeah. Tonys are a part of that.
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Loop's Lab is a part of that. You're playing with the tech, but there is no there is no digital connection. Yes. That also leads into sort of upgraded classics, like new spins on older ideas, and you see that in here, too.
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um Magna Tiles, for example. course. It's a brand that's almost 30 years old. And they're getting into entertainment now. So this is actually, we go over there, this is it's sort of like a premiere before the premiere.
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They've actually created an animated series called Magna Tales that is officially debuting in October. But there's a screening room over there. So folks that are here, sorry if you're not here, you won't be able to see it. But you'll be able to see it soon.
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um and they've incorporated figures and stuff into the magnetic tile system. So that is totally screen-free play.
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But then now there is something you can watch on screen later that accents that play. Yeah, extends it. Yes. Play extension. Always been a key to your success. How do you extend that play? yeahll Yeah, really, Antelope. I mean, there are so many hands-on things when you look around.
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um Kids' best friends are always a trend, but this year they're also tied to anniversaries. So thirtieth anniversary of Tickle Me Elmo.
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Tickle Me Elmo is back. Funny enough, when that came out, I was working for that holiday season, and I actually got to see a grandmother whack somebody in the forehead before you Tickle Me Elmo, and now Just Play brought it back in an extreme edition for the 30th anniversary. You got Pokemon. Pokemon, course, they're running around here, and the Nintendo folks beside us have 30 years of Pokemon, and then...
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Sonic the Hedgehog, 35 years old. And there was a lot of buzz about this one online, but I don't think anybody's seen it in person until today. Basic Fun is a Sonic the Hedgehog's arcade machine.
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Okay. It is here and running and wasn't an arcade game. No. But it is now. And I think the important distinction with putting that into the arcade format is we're on a second wave of the home arcade. Oh yeah.
Retro Gaming Revival
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nineteen Which really kicked off in 2018 and now we're starting to see it boom again.
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And also too, there's a very important element of companies creating stuff that kids, actual kids, can enjoy, play, understand, and get into. Sonic, especially those original games from the early 90s, are very easy to pick up and play. Oh, yeah. You put them in the arcade format, and this idea is kind of like, this is a whole other thing I can get into and enjoy, playing with the joysticks and the buttons.
00:13:51
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Those kids today, they're us 30 years from I hope they really have reinforced Right. on joytic That's a good point. yeah You can certainly ask them about it because their team is here.
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00:14:57
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And now, back to the show. It's very important that these toy makers don't lose focus of kids because we yeah we talk so much about the adult consumer.
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yeah And this year, in fact, too, we talked about this boom. Adults, you remember a couple of years ago, there was a big story that adults out to preschoolers yeah for the first time ever. yeah do you know what the number is right now?
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No. So as of right now, July 2026,
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Adults, and that means adult recipients. So for you watching this, it's 35% of the toys. Okay. That's a huge number. Yeah.
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Here's your bigger surprise. It's more than 50% women. Oh, wow. Okay. So 35%. thirty five percent share of the toy market, more than half women, that this issue is driving sales for the industry this year.
00:15:57
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That bucks most of the demographics on on social media, like across the board, you know, in terms of like followership and and engagement and things like that. But I will say it makes sense because you've got my wife who went out and got the entire F1 grid, like Lego F1 grid. Yeah. Things like Gem are coming back in, you know, loyal subjects doing Gem and, you know,
00:16:20
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Just look at plushies. Plushies of all kinds. Started with Squishmallows a few years ago, but now it's anything plushy and cute. This squishy, tactile thing.
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Lego sets, botanicals. K-pop Demon Hunter. Yeah. There is just so much there. And then there's things you don't think of too, like an example. Oscar ice collectors. Yeah. My wife is very detached from the toy industry and doesn't really engage in a lot of what I am working with on a daily basis.
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But then one of Zuru's latest like, five surprise bands was famous art. Okay. So it was, like, masterpieces, um and they were little canvases where they canned it was a real canvas with a legit print on it, and then you build the frame and you build the easel and you display your own art gallery.
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She is into art. So that just made her toy consumer because there was something there that she identified with.
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So it's those types of things. And also, we see this in the collectible space, and there's a bunch of brands doing it, books. Like the whole book talk thing.
00:17:42
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Yep. What's happening? Or bookstagram. Well, now you see little collectible versions. We're seeing it right now with music. There are two competing miniature record players. I was just showing Dave the Zuru once before we left for here. So Zuru has their version and MGA has theirs.
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Those two companies kind of notorious rivals. yeah How we landed on this space that they have two similar products at the same time. One of the great mysteries of the toy industry this year. But if you look at the titles,
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they typically skew towards a female consumer. So MGA this week really hitting hard with Britney Spears.
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They did all Britney Spears. And I was going to say, like our age too. yeah Yes. Fall Out Boy, Britney Spears. Yes, I got there. There's there's a one book one of our other editors was all excited when Fall Out Boy came into that mix. for the Zuru line. um And then honestly too, and maybe maybe it's where I start showing my age a little bit, there are some titles in those that I'm not familiar with, which is super weird because I've been involved with music my whole life. I was gonna say. But it's,
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Stuff that the kids are interested in. and you know But it's drawing new people into it. It is. It is. People that have moved maybe not bought a toy in 20 years are like, oh, I want a little record
Nostalgia in Toys
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player. Yeah, if they start cranking out like turnstile and not blues and stuff like that. I'm in. Yeah. what's What's really funny is like, especially with the vinyl records, like what a full circle moment for vinyl, right? Because like vinyl had its resurgence in like the collective community within the past like 15 years or so. yeah And it's back again now. And now it's a toy. like Yes. And, you know, i mean I made a meme years ago and and now i I feel like I have to update it.
00:19:36
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Do you remember the old Fisher Price record player? Oh, yeah. Which of course has been remade. Yeah, with John Legend. Yeah. probably 15 years ago i made a meme that was the fisher price record player which i had as a kid yep fisher price cd player which my kids had and then nothing because it was screaming yeah But now the physical is back. Yep. And the yes. The toys are back. That redone record player, that redone Fisher Price one where they partnered with John Legend to like work on the music, that's in my daughter's bedroom. And like those songs are earworms. It was a huge hit. yeah And you know going around this room, too, so we're we're very adjacent to Playmobil right now. Yes. Which I think is notable because
00:20:26
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This is a brand that's been around since 1974. The core Playmobil figures are relatively unchanged, but what has changed is licensing. And they've got Barbie and WWE wwe this year.
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And those are brands that are going to be truly cross-generational. Oh, yeah. Because kids will absolutely play with these. They have figures, they have vehicles, they have play sets.
00:20:52
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But then... I absolutely want to get that Raw WWE ring. I want the Hulk Hogan figure. They have the Rock driving a monster truck over there. yeahp So they're they're bringing those things together.
00:21:08
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you look at some of the crafty stuff on the other end. i can't see from where we're at, but Crayola is here. yeahp Think about how many people are doing art. And you you mentioned K-pop Demon Hunters before. Crayola has an entire K-pop Demon Hunters art line.
00:21:22
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Yeah. So they they have coloring books and i there's a carrying case and all kinds of things. And that's that's sort of checking multiple boxes in What's Hot and Toys right now and putting those together. Well, one of the things that blew us away in Holiday of Play last year was the Puppetronics Stitch. Yeah.
00:21:43
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And this year, it looks like we've got something different from Puppetronics. Puppetronics from WOW Stuff is part of their real effects line.
00:21:56
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And it started with Jurassic World. Yeah. They did a couple dinosaurs. They did one sort of on its own, and then there was another one for the recent movie. And Stitch was just a giant. And now, it's kind of wracking my brain, I think Stitch was two years ago already. Oh, yeah, that's right. Because then they did Angel after that. Yes, it was 2024. Yep. So, you know, time flies when you're in the toy business. And this year, we're kind of looking towards the 50th anniversary of Star Wars next year. yeah. So, yeah, they've got Jedi Master Yoda in the house.
00:22:35
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They have smaller puppetronics. They have minions. They have some unannounced puppetronics. Okay. okay that I will tell you i have seen in development over the past few years from visits to Nuremberg for Spielbarnmesser and also the l LA previews and behind closed doors.
00:22:58
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What you are seeing from them here, which is very, very cool, is very much just the beginning of other things they are doing. So I think that that is very exciting. See, this is why we say you you are the pulse of play. Because you know things.
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I know things that I can't talk about until the time is right.
Innovative Toy Designs
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yeah I mean, there's there's a product here I absolutely love from Spin Master, which you guys probably saw it Tofer. It's an inflatable dino that comes out of the truck. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
00:23:34
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Okay. I saw that in prototype form and was just like, this thing is awesome. I wish my kids were still into Paw Patrol. They're teenagers now.
00:23:45
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Because you hit a button and the truck opens up and a two-foot inflatable dyno comes up. yeah But that's only just the beginning of it because it also detaches and you can play with the inflatable dyno by itself and a character rides on it And then it's so well designed that when you put it back on and close the truck, it just deflates. And it works exactly as advertised. And it's like, if I were a kid, I would be blown away by it. Yeah, it's basically like a miniature version of a dude in one of those inflatable dino costumes. and And there's nothing more heartbreaking than when like when you're a kid, the toy doesn't work the way it's supposed to. Like the best is when you can just go back to it and it works and it works and it works.
00:24:26
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And I'm going to admit, I'm a big kid, and I've gone back to that one. I was playing with it yesterday in our office here in Manhattan, and yeah i I probably inflated and deflated it five or six times. So you mentioned you've been coming to these for 10 years now. It's evolved from being trapped in a suite of a hotel room to being on the sixth floor of the glass house. And that was in that 10-year thing. It was already bigger at 10, which actually that first year that I came, it was on a boat.
00:24:58
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it was it was It was anchored here somewhere along the Hudson. but Yeah, the first one 17 years ago suite. So, you know, trends have changed, the space has changed, but what's something that kind of, that you would say has not changed? What's like a guiding principle that that has kind of remained, like at the at the core of whether that's play or whether that's this event specifically, the industry?
00:25:25
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The overarching message I would say is to just have fun.
Timeless Nature of Play
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We've seen, especially in the last seven to 10 years, we've seen a lot of really negative things in the world.
00:25:40
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We've seen a lot of negative things in our country. We've seen division, divisiveness between people. We've seen the closure of toy chains. We've seen...
00:25:54
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trade wars and tariffs and a global pandemic and all of these things. But the toy industry flourishes because people want to disconnect from all the nonsense and the chaos that's out there and have a good time.
00:26:15
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And I think that that also speaks to why so many adults are rediscovering this. i mean Go back, and know it feels like it's 20 years ago now, whenever the movie 40-Year-Old Virgin came out. It was a punchline that Steve Carell's character what I believe might have been like sideshow, like six scale figures. Dollars. living Yeah. Okay.
00:26:43
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It was a punchline. Ha ha, look at this loser, right? In reality, the adult enthusiast has always been there.
00:26:55
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Always. If you can collect it, if you can play with it, people have done that, and that adult enthusiast has always been there. What's changed is that other people aren't making fun of them anymore yeah and have realized, you know what?
00:27:12
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Who says you have to grow up? You can still have fun, there are new play experiences, and as we look at the evolution of the industry, we look at the evolution of this event, there's innovation every year, there's a new crop of toys every year, there's a new generation of kids every year, new ones being born every day. yeah And I think...
00:27:39
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All of it has to has to do with play. That you can have fun, you can play your own way, you find what speaks to you and you go with it.
00:27:50
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You ignore everybody else, every other thing going on out there. find what makes you feel good, what brings you joy, what brings you excitement, and embrace that.
00:28:02
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And there's an adorable-looking dog over here now. I'm sorry, it's just totally distracting me. But i want to pick that dog later. So you never know what you're going to find in Sweet Sweet.
00:28:12
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Dogs bring me joy. I love dogs. Me too. so I was distracted by Cotton Candy Memeci. Yes, there there are there's Candy in here.
00:28:23
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There's so much yeah going on. i mean, there's hundreds of people here. There's news crews walking through here. mascots seeing parent creators with kids you know that's that's the thing too i mean a change that's still the same blogger to influencer to creator that i mentioned earlier yeah it's like it's just working it's evolving it's how people speak to each other and connect
00:28:56
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um But they're still here and they're doing it in new ways. And maybe that means that 20 years from now, Sweet Sweet still has creators, but we're just beaming these conversations to our audience. So we're just sitting somewhere looking at all the toys we're just putting this in your mind.
00:29:15
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Well listen, before we we run out there and play, because I want to go play. yeah Yeah, me too. Remind our audience, remind our watchers, our our listeners, where can they stay up to date with you and everything going on at
Closing Remarks and Social Media
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the Toy Book?
00:29:27
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Sure. So if you are into the business of play, you want to know the nuts and bolts about the industry, the B2B side of things, you're to want to check out the Toy Book, toybook.com. We are a print magazine that is in volume 42.
00:29:41
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The company's been around since 84. Our first issue debuted at Toy Fair New York in 1985. And we published seven issues a year in beautiful print. So print and of course we're online every day From that, 20 some years ago spawned the Toy Insider, which is the leading guide to toys and games and cool stuff for your family that's really, really dedicated to the parents, the grandparents, the cool aunts and uncles, anybody that's buying gifts and things for the kids in their lives.
00:30:15
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And then in 2018, we created the Pop Insider, which is the collector audience, the adult enthusiast. And that's also a print magazine four times a year.
00:30:25
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If you're at New York Comic Con in a couple of months, we'll have our big Pop Insider booth there. We're going to be doing some cool stuff. So Toy Book, Toy Insider, Pop Insider, and...
00:30:36
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you know we We do some other things. We've got some surprises up our sleeves too. So maybe that's not all we do anymore. okay We'll see. And we do these wonderful live events like Sweet Sweet and Holiday and Play. And that's where you can find it. So you can find us on socials for all of those.
00:30:52
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And if you want to follow me, I'm the Rockfather on pretty much any platform. um Yeah, so we're around. Awesome. Well, I think it's time to go play, Dave. Yeah, I think we should. All right. All right, get out there. Play.
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Bye, everybody. Bye.
00:31:10
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