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50 Years of Hawks, 50 Years of Talk
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Tristan and Miles talk about the 1970s Seahawks, the 2025 Seahawks, and take an inaugural spin down memory lane with 50 Seconds In Seahawks History.
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Opening and Seahawks vs. Buccaneers Game Discussion
00:00:00
Tristan Amundson
Miles, it is so good to be back with you. We find ourselves on a cool October morning. it is October 17th. The Seahawks just played the Buccaneers last night, October 16th.
00:00:17
Tristan Amundson
And it's nice, isn't it? I mean, you can feel the cool air. I don't know if you've noticed that yeah I think kids are getting ready for trick-or-treating. Halloween's around the corner. I mean, this just, it feels...
00:00:29
Tristan Amundson
It just, it feels like we're right in the middle of football season, man. How are you doing?
00:00:33
M dub
Tristan, it's great to be with you podcasting about the Seahawks as we have always done throughout each of the 50 glorious years of their franchise history. Tristan, I do want to make a note.
00:00:44
M dub
I do think that your own personal notes about which year of Seahawks history we're talking about are a little bit backwards. It is currently August of 2025.
00:00:52
Tristan Amundson
Oh.
00:00:55
M dub
We're in the 50th year of Seahawks history. But Tristan, to celebrate this fiftieth year, we We did something. We each went back.
1977 Seahawks vs. Buccaneers: Nostalgia and Analysis
00:01:05
M dub
We combed we comb the catacombs of YouTube, and we found a game played on October 16th of 1977 between the Seattle Seahawks and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, the earliest game that I could, full game I could find in the franchise history.
00:01:22
M dub
And Tristan, we watched this thing not knowing what we what we would see, And it was a beautiful experience. It really exceeded my expectations.
00:01:32
Tristan Amundson
Man, it it was so fun. i So it it was hard. i don't In fact, let's get into... let let i mean, so here's the plan. I think this is our plan. We're going to break down the game a little bit the way we'd break down any game.
00:01:46
Tristan Amundson
But maybe before that, because I feel like I can't even talk about it without us just kind of geeking out a little bit together. ah it It was a challenge to watch the game for me. Like, it's funny how you get used to, for better or for worse, the product that is the NFL today.
00:02:03
Tristan Amundson
And kind of, i don't know, all of the distractions. Maybe it's the TikTok nature of our brains and and the NFL knowing that and like, During a broadcast, giving you all these different things, all these different graphics to sit down and just watch a game with one camera angle.
00:02:19
Tristan Amundson
I mean, here it is here. Here is the camera is on the 50 yard line. We are going to watch a football game, period. And we're going to talk about the football game. it It was like i there was a few times I just had to pause and walk and do something else or distract myself because it it was such a departure from the modern day NFL that we know and love today.
00:02:42
M dub
Tristan, I did have a similar experience. I did feel a little bit like a Zen monk who had gone up to a mountaintop and was having a very ah profound experience. And yes, despite really enjoying a lot of 1977 NFL, I did also have to take some breaks as well. I'm not sure how both existed at the same time, but they definitely did.
00:03:04
Tristan Amundson
um You mentioned this and I had forgotten it until I saw your notes. We had some pretty incredible commentators um on this game, Miles.
00:03:12
M dub
Yes, this game. So ah the Seahawks started in 1976. That was their first year. And I found this game. I do want to note that it was uploaded by Bart Simpson.
00:03:21
Tristan Amundson
Thank God.
00:03:22
M dub
And it has about 25,000 views. so So we're not the only ones to to get into this. And I do want to point out that a YouTube user named Brett Tamblyn has very helpfully put together a playlist of full Seahawks games across all chapters of the team's history, which is how I found it.
00:03:41
M dub
So this this is the earliest full game I could find. And our broadcasters, we got Jim Thacker on play-by-play and none other than Johnny Unitas, just a few short years removed from his playing career doing the color commentary.
00:03:51
Tristan Amundson
Wow.
00:03:56
Tristan Amundson
Johnny, you himself, which there was a couple of moments when i was like, wait, it is Johnny Unitas on the field? Like I kind of got, I don't know if that happened to you. I kind of got confused. I realized, no, I'm i'm hearing the voice of Johnny Unitas talking about the Seahawks.
00:04:12
Tristan Amundson
um and And really, and to your point, ah the Seahawks got started in 76 along with, and with the the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. They were both expansion teams in 76. So it's like these two young upstart franchises that are just learning what it is to be in be in the NFL. and And you can kind of tell, like it it would be I'd be very curious to watch a game maybe from the next to get sense next to to get a sense of do you know Do they add more production? you know ah one One thing I noted, and um maybe I'll just go stream of consciousness here.
00:04:49
Tristan Amundson
Did you notice how quiet the sidelines were? everything like the the All the players were back, like sitting on the bench. The sideline itself was very quiet. And just how few people were on the sideline compared to what we notice nowadays.
00:05:05
Tristan Amundson
The sidelines packed. The players are all over the place up and down the field. it It seemed downright like orderly, like watching the the players watch their teammates on the field and the coaches.
00:05:18
Tristan Amundson
Did you get that same sense that even the sideline vibe, Miles, was was a little different?
00:05:23
M dub
You know, I didn't notice that. And I think that's what that's one of the great things about watching this is there's just all sorts of parts of NFL culture that are coming up that you don't realize exist in 2025.
Evolution of NFL Technology and Game Dynamics
00:05:35
M dub
What did exist in 1977? What didn't? I hadn't noticed a slide. What shocked me was that the referees did have wireless microphones in order to make
00:05:45
Tristan Amundson
yeah
00:05:46
M dub
the call i I could have sworn that came around in the 90s when I was a kid already starting to watch football. I thought I saw that come in, but they they still had to have and it.
00:05:56
M dub
And they worked pretty well for the 70s.
00:05:58
Tristan Amundson
Worked really well. Yeah, no, that that that that's a great one. That that worked really well. um and see Let me see. The orderliness of the sidelines.
00:06:09
Tristan Amundson
um I'm trying to think of other things. I mean, it really did strike me how far back the players were. And let me just skip to the very end of the game and we can talk through the whole thing. But just it's another thing that I was just like, this looks way different than the current NFL game.
00:06:23
Tristan Amundson
The second the clock hit double zeros and the game was over, both teams just instantly ran to their locker rooms. Like there was, there was no mingling. There was ah maybe very little like mingling in the, in the, in the, on the field and Hey, we're going to talk and let me hug you and all that.
00:06:41
Tristan Amundson
It's like the game ended and they both just both teams beeline to the different tunnels to go back to the locker room. Like, cool. Hey, we're done. I have to get home for dinner. Like, see you, see you later guys.
00:06:52
M dub
That's really funny. I wonder who are the trendsetters who kind of started the three-minute hangouts or five-minute hangout session that goes on ah after every NFL game these days.
00:07:02
Tristan Amundson
Yeah.
00:07:05
Tristan Amundson
such Such a different thing. So let's let's go into let's just make this, you know, our typical podcast here a little bit, because I think it is fun. Let's talk about let's just talk about the game a little bit.
00:07:16
Tristan Amundson
I i the first thing I noticed and I mean.
00:07:20
M dub
Well, can we share who won? won the game?
00:07:21
Tristan Amundson
oh oh yes. Yes. Sorry. Give. Yeah. Give us give us the stats.
00:07:25
M dub
Yeah, but well, the good thing is, so as you mentioned, both the Hawks and the Buccaneers are have just started their lives in 1976. The good news for the Hawks is, although they were very bad, the Buccaneers were much worse.
00:07:38
M dub
And at this point, in the middle of October 77, the Buccaneers still had not won a game as a franchise.
00:07:43
Tristan Amundson
Incredible.
00:07:44
M dub
They don't do it in this game. They lose 30 to 23. It seems close, but the Buccaneers never have a tie or the lead. I do want to note, What I learned after we chose this game to watch, so Bart Simpson uploaded this, 25,000 people watched it.
00:08:00
M dub
There's a YouTube account called KTO, which uploaded a video three years ago, and it has 1.3 million views on it. And it's basically how these 1977 bucks were the worst offense in NFL history.
00:08:14
Tristan Amundson
Oh, interesting. Okay.
00:08:15
M dub
The full season stats, 7.4 points per game.
00:08:19
Tristan Amundson
Whoa.
00:08:20
M dub
Three touchdowns, 30 interceptions. And that's basically the story here. I do want the Bucs offensive line, I noticed was pretty good, but the Buccaneers on the day, four interceptions, two other fumbles, just not very careful with the ball.
00:08:34
M dub
And Steve Meyer, the second player to start at quarterback, other than Jim Zorn for the Seahawks, comes in for his only ever career victory. That's what happened in the game.
00:08:45
M dub
The Seahawks did not become the first team to lose to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
00:08:49
Tristan Amundson
Thank God. um ah yeah It does. It jumped out while you're watching the game. And yeah, you could obviously look at two ways. Man, the Seahawks defense looks so good. But to your point, probably more accurately.
00:09:01
Tristan Amundson
the The Tampa Bay um offense was pretty anemic. um I will say, though, a couple of those turnovers, a couple of those interceptions were were pretty phenomenal. um And yeah it's when you're watching the copy, it's so old, it's hard to, and I'm sure they mentioned it at the time. I can't remember who it was.
00:09:19
Tristan Amundson
One of the interceptions was just this like diving, beautiful interception, grabs it, lands on the ground, does one again, kind of does a quick little summera some ah somersault role.
00:09:31
Tristan Amundson
um And as he does it, I think to myself, my first thought, This is the worst thing about being an NFL fan today. My first thought was like, well, I mean, did he actually intercept that ball? Like, there's no way to know. There's no instant replay.
00:09:46
Tristan Amundson
Like, you can't even see the ball when he catches it because the TV copy is so bad. And, like, i I'm fair. I mean, I think there's 60% 70% chance that, like...
00:09:58
Tristan Amundson
the The ground assisted in the interception, but just kind of some of the beauty of watching the game back then. and And really, they were just playing football. It wasn't as precise as what we're used to watching.
00:10:11
Tristan Amundson
But man, I got to say, those Seahawks were ball hawking. There was a lot of great interceptions in this game. That was what a fun thing just to watch.
00:10:18
M dub
Yeah, it was a little hard to know if it was because of the quarterbacks at play. You know, we had the two, but um oh it did feel a little bit like a prayer ah when a pass went up.
00:10:23
Tristan Amundson
Exactly. Yeah.
00:10:30
M dub
And was kind of like, hope hope this gets to the right guy. And accordingly, there were a lot of runs by both teams.
00:10:35
Tristan Amundson
Thank you.
00:10:37
M dub
and And the run game was really productive from ah both squads. But it was it was run first, pass second, for sure.
00:10:44
Tristan Amundson
Yeah, and very, very committed to the run. That was my first takeaway. The 77 team, very committed to the run. Dare I say, kind of it in Pete's image a little bit, like if you're if you're thinking about Pete Carroll's dream team or like the way he wants to play the game, um run the ball, right? Be committed to the run and then have some of those big plays.
00:11:08
Tristan Amundson
What did you think? I'm assuming this is your first time seeing Steve Largent, right? Is this, was this a first?
00:11:14
M dub
Yeah, yeah, it was.
00:11:16
Tristan Amundson
What, what, what, what were your thoughts? I mean, seeing Steve Largent for the first time, this is a guy that is, I mean, he's, he's one of the absolute legends, obviously of the Seahawks. He's one of the great wide receiver wide receivers of all time.
00:11:31
Tristan Amundson
And you got to see this guy get a couple of touchdowns. What'd you think of Steve?
00:11:36
M dub
it's It's pretty obvious. Now, that the Tampa Bay Buccaneers actually also have a Hall of Fame player on this team, as bad as they are. We got Leroy Selman on the defensive line.
00:11:44
Tristan Amundson
Oh, I didn't know that.
00:11:45
M dub
He's a Hall of Fame player.
00:11:47
Tristan Amundson
Okay.
00:11:48
M dub
Had a pretty quiet game. Didn't spend his whole career with the Buccaneers, though. So Steve Largent's the other Hall of Fame player in this game. And to me, it's immediately obvious Steve Largent is the very best player on the field.
00:12:00
M dub
He goes four for 44 with two touchdowns. ah But it really got me. is it it basically happens all in the first half.
00:12:08
Tristan Amundson
Yep.
00:12:09
M dub
And they the Seahawks just kind of ignore their best player for not any reason I could figure out in the second half. What they started to do instead was some so backfield pitching around, so a lateral here, a lateral there.
00:12:25
M dub
I don't think those plays went very well in
Spotlight on Players and Coaches: Past and Present
00:12:27
M dub
practice. Either way, they didn't go very well in the game. And it felt... it felt Did it feel great that they were trying to pull this stuff off when they had ah clear Hall of Fame player at wide receiver and just weren't that concerned about giving the ball to him?
00:12:42
M dub
i mean, that that's his first half with those stats, and I don't think he got a target in the second half.
00:12:45
Tristan Amundson
Yeah.
00:12:48
Tristan Amundson
It was, yeah, it definitely was, was front loaded for Steve. um And yeah, to your point, they were running the ball like, like mad. um yeah the The other guy though, that I couldn't help but notice was Sherm Smith, who was, i believe the lead running back for the Seahawks in this game.
00:13:08
Tristan Amundson
um Coach Sherm Smith. I am almost, I am 98% positive that he was a coach on Pete Carroll's team, correct?
00:13:17
M dub
Yeah, I mean, what that what a crazy journey for him. He did have a lot of other coaching stops in his career. He didn't stay in Seattle the entire time, but to... be a ah part of these inaugural expansion teams in the 70s.
00:13:30
M dub
And then this is Marshawn Lynch's position coach through the whole Super Bowl run. I mean, what create the the bookends there are just so crazy.
00:13:35
Tristan Amundson
Isn't that crazy? Yeah.
00:13:39
M dub
to and And I think that was what was crazy about this whole game is to see the Seahawks team that we know and love, the juggernaut that's in the middle of downtown Seattle. You know, the whole region shuts down for these games. And like it did all start from here. It started from it started from the games like this. that That's what really blew my mind. and And you have a lot of people, Sherman Smith included, who who are present at just completely different chapters in the franchise history.
00:14:07
Tristan Amundson
Yeah, what what a cool bookend for him to be able to see the success of the team and to see it grow. um Similar to now, he obviously he wasn't in this game, but Jim Zorn also, yeah know, longtime NFL coach and and Seahawks quarterback coach for a little while, coaching our good friend Matt Hasselbeck and Brock Huard and a lot of those QB rooms.
00:14:30
Tristan Amundson
um Yeah, again, kind of a cool thing. This is the the team's second year in the league. And there are two guys that carved out a pretty great um ah coaching career coming out of, you know, kind of these humble beginnings, these humble kingdom beginnings.
00:14:49
Tristan Amundson
Sherm Smith and Jim Zorn. Now, obviously, we didn't see Zorn play, but man, Sherm looked great. He looked the part. um but Let me ask you this. This is something i want to talk to you about.
00:15:02
Tristan Amundson
I expected i came into the game with a bias. The bias I came into was the NFL is much faster than it is. I'm sorry. Let me say that again.
00:15:14
Tristan Amundson
The NFL today is much, much faster than it was in 1977. I believe that does have to be true. I'm i'm not saying that isn't true. We know that all of the players now are stronger, faster, in every way superior.
00:15:30
Tristan Amundson
That said, watching the TV copy, it doesn't look slow. It doesn't look like, man, these guys are are running in quicksand or anything like that. The pace of play, the the the way the guys would get out specifically on the edges it looks like a really normal football game. Did you get that same sense that it just, it feels pretty normal?
00:15:51
M dub
Absolutely. did actually have that same observation. My observation was this. The run plays, I think if you change the kind of camera film quality, I don't think I could tell the difference.
00:16:01
Tristan Amundson
Yeah.
00:16:05
M dub
If I just saw shapes moving, I don't think I could see what was the 1977 run play and what was the 2025 run play.
00:16:07
Tristan Amundson
Yeah.
00:16:10
M dub
and what was the twenty twenty five run play I do think it is very different in the passing game. As I mentioned, a lot of these throws, pretty normal throws, are kind of prayers going up there.
00:16:22
Tristan Amundson
Yep. Yep. Yep.
00:16:23
M dub
And my thought was, even though we're not seeing the best quarterbacks the 70s had to offer, I kind of thought that it had to do with just how, in the 50 years since, during the week,
00:16:36
M dub
of practice, how much easier it became with technology to watch more film.
00:16:37
Tristan Amundson
yeah
00:16:41
M dub
ah kind of wonder if quarterbacks are as good as they are because it's so quick and easy to dial up what any defense looks like. Whereas, I mean, this is the day when you you're having to clunk in some sort of like literal film cartridge into a light bulb projector, you know, to to look at what the defense is doing.
00:16:57
Tristan Amundson
ah ah
00:16:58
M dub
And I feel like that is kind of contributing to And then that leads to when it's game time, like, ah okay, it's a pass play. ah here we e Here we go. Instead of like, I have a target.
00:17:12
M dub
It's this guy. i made them. I looked off the safety with my eyes, stuff like that. it It kind of made me think about technology, but changing quarterback, quarterback and the kicking game seem to be the only things that have really changed. I have no idea why the kicking game changed so much, but those seem to be the only two positions.
00:17:30
Tristan Amundson
Yeah. And I mean, to your point, right, we're hearing reports out of Seahawks camp that Jalen Milrow, similar to Jalen Hurts, by the way, has has picked up the virtual reality headset, has said this is going to help me understand the game and slow the game down for me.
00:17:47
Tristan Amundson
So just I mean, to your point, like put ourselves in 1977. And you are a quarterback trying to prep for a game like this. You have the film.
00:17:58
Tristan Amundson
You're going to do your work on the field. And you're you're probably to have a lot of still shots, right? Of like, hey, you know, they're doing this. They're doing that. you might be You might not even have access to still shots because it's not like they have printers on that field that would be able to do that like they were doing in the 90s or the early two thousand Compare that to a young Jalen Milrow in Renton, Washington right now with literally, i don't know, ah Facebook like meta, meta goggles on. Right.
00:18:28
Tristan Amundson
And like looking at the entire field, looking all around him, being able to see, oh yeah, the defense does this. They do that. It is incredible to think about like, just to your point, from a tech perspective, right.
00:18:42
Tristan Amundson
it's like It's a totally different game. I mean, like the just the the amount of information. even Even when we're looking on pro football reference at this game, the amount of information about this game is like it's there, but it's a lot less than a modern day game where I can see snap counts. I can see every little bit of info.
00:19:03
Tristan Amundson
This is giving us, I was surprised to see, hey, they're they're keeping track of s sacks. Okay. That's kind of cool. I was able to see how many sacks we had. Um, besides that it's, it's pretty sparse.
00:19:14
M dub
i have gotten that I have met somebody in the last few years who worked doing film for college programs in the Northeast in the 70s.
00:19:26
M dub
And so he's up at the top of the stadium during the games recording that all 22 footage.
00:19:29
Tristan Amundson
Yeah. Yeah.
00:19:30
M dub
And then the end of the game is kind of the start of his job. There was like a film developer that they had relationships with and he would have to go and kind of get a slice of pizza or something and like sit overnight as you know, like they're developing the film and then take it into the coach's office on Sunday morning. So that's the first look that you're getting. Yeah.
00:19:53
M dub
yeah At about this time is is to, to go through that whole process instead of, you know, pulling up a tablet on the sideline.
00:19:54
Tristan Amundson
Yeah.
00:20:00
Tristan Amundson
Yeah. And yeah, I mean, to your point, pulling up the table on the sideline, most of the time when they interview coach the next morning, right, he's watched the he watched the game on the plane on the way home.
00:20:10
Tristan Amundson
You know, it's like, oh, yeah, had had my my surface or whatever. And I'm watching the the game. So that was kind of fun. Yeah. but Okay, another observation. I'm just looking at my list here.
00:20:21
Tristan Amundson
I thought this was hilarious, man. The game is ending, right? what What was the final score again? Remind me of the final score.
00:20:28
M dub
ah Hawks win 30 to 23.
00:20:30
Tristan Amundson
Okay, 30 to 23. So it's a one possession game. The and ah the Seahawks get the ball back off of an interception with a minute 28 left, right? So they need a couple of first downs to run off the clock.
00:20:46
Tristan Amundson
Tampa Bay has all three timeouts. Okay. Hey, we've prepared for the end of the game. We have our timeouts. We're ready to go. Seahawks run the football. What's Tampa Bay do?
00:20:58
Tristan Amundson
They don't call a timeout. They just let that clock run. I'm watching as the clock runs for a good 12 seconds before they suddenly call a timeout. And I just had this moment of like, in so many ways, this is a different game.
00:21:13
Tristan Amundson
Like, like any, any Basic fan nowadays, maybe then, I don't know, is is screaming at their TV. Like, what what are you doing? Like, you have to call a timeout right this second.
00:21:27
Tristan Amundson
Instead, they just let it run. The next play, the Seahawks run it again. They do the same thing, except it's five seconds instead of 12 seconds. And you just watch, you're watching the clock bleed.
00:21:37
Tristan Amundson
in the most critical like moment of you have the opportunity to get the ball back. Now, you know, yeah, we're going to call the timeout. We're just not going to do it in a timely manner. I was blown away by that.
00:21:50
M dub
ah That's really funny. the The two head coaches in this game are both dressed way better than head coaches today. But they do feel a little bit like observers. They don't really have a headset.
00:22:02
Tristan Amundson
Yeah. Yeah.
00:22:02
M dub
And they're kind of, it looks like they're trying to kind of look and figure out what's going on. And they're a little bit behind the game, you know, instead of being like, at the core of it, you know.
00:22:12
Tristan Amundson
Yeah. Intimately involved the the entire time. um Did you notice ah the kneel downs at the end the or the lack of?
00:22:23
M dub
Oh, I guess I missed it.
00:22:25
Tristan Amundson
so So at the end of the game, right? So after they told Leaf love these timeouts, now finally we're in a moment where you can kneel down. and it And now this would be interesting. I should have done this research. I didn't think about asking the question until just now.
00:22:39
Tristan Amundson
I wonder if the kneel down was incorporated into the NFL game at a certain point. Like, hey, this is an acceptable way to take, you know, to to keep the clock running. So instead of kneeling it down, though, the quarterback takes the snap and falls.
00:22:55
Tristan Amundson
He just he lands on his side and he's got his backs behind him in kind of that normal protection formation. But he literally has to fall on his side every single time. So instead of a kneel down, it's like a fall down, which I thought the first time I was like, oh, maybe he just tripped. And then I saw him do it two more times.
00:23:13
Tristan Amundson
He just these flops on the ground. Which is pretty great. I mean, it's hilarious. They're making the player like lay on the ground. And that's how we're going to keep the clock going.
00:23:26
M dub
ah Yeah, there's just so many things. Yeah, and then you go right into that that moment where the players are dispersing from the field.
00:23:33
Tristan Amundson
Yeah. Out of here.
00:23:34
M dub
Yeah.
00:23:36
Tristan Amundson
um So I feel like I should tell you something about the Kingdome and the AstroTurf. So the Kingdome is the first place I ever went to watch of a sporting event. And it was the Mariners.
00:23:49
Tristan Amundson
Went to the many Mariners games. Never, never went to a Seahawk game at at the Kingdome. But yeah. but was something that I do know very well and something that my dad has told me because so my dad was a policeman in Seattle and they used to. i don't know if they still do it. they They might still do this event, an event called the Bacon Bowl.
00:24:12
Tristan Amundson
And the bacon bowl was Seattle PD, Seattle PD, excuse me, versus Tacoma police department. And it's, it was a charity football game that they would do once a year, every year and take it super seriously.
00:24:25
Tristan Amundson
And they played in the kingdom. Um, And the reason I bring up the bacon bowl was um when I was up visiting family this last week, my dad got the footage. And so I watched my dad playing the bacon bowl and the footage it's from the 1970s. It looks shockingly exactly like what we just watched in this game. I mean, the exact same film quality and everything.
00:24:48
Tristan Amundson
um But something that my dad was telling me and and he's told me over the years was how much it hurt to fall in the kingdom on that old AstroTurf. So one, apparently every time you fell, you got a rug burn, basically. Like, so you're you're falling onto this turf, you're getting a rug burn.
00:25:08
Tristan Amundson
But on top of that. underneath what what what basically is carpet, like it's it's the carpet of the AstroTurf, apparently is one fairly thin layer of rubber and then and then the AstroTurf itself.
00:25:23
Tristan Amundson
And underneath that is just concrete. So if as you're watching it, if you're kind of imagining every time these dudes are hitting the ground, it is a thin layer of material before they're just hitting concrete. And they're basically just they're basically just landing on a carpet on top of concrete over and over and over again.
00:25:45
Tristan Amundson
which Which might be why some of the NFL careers early on were even shorter than they are today. Because they're basically just destroying their body in the kingdom. Like, it it would not be allowed as a playing service today.
00:25:59
M dub
I think that does explain it. What what position was Mr. Amundsen playing?
00:26:04
Tristan Amundson
I'm glad you asked. um Mark and Roger both um were in this game because they were both on the the force together. And the Amundsen brothers were um the starting running backs.
00:26:15
Tristan Amundson
ah So they both they both officially were, I think, fullback and tailback. But they both got plenty of work up the middle, over to the side. Mark and Roger just just running the ball down down the throat of Tacoma.
00:26:27
M dub
Wow. A little thunder and lightning.
00:26:29
Tristan Amundson
Oh yeah, you bet. You bet. It was pretty fun. Pretty fun to see. um and And fun just having an opportunity twice now to watch a game back in the kingdom because it does bring back a lot of memories. It was a special venue.
00:26:42
Tristan Amundson
um Very different. Very different than than the modern venues we have today, but ah pretty cool.
Celebrating 50 Years of Seahawks History
00:26:49
M dub
Tristan, can i introduce this year's segment?
00:26:54
Tristan Amundson
Oh my, yes.
00:26:56
M dub
50 years of the Seahawks. This year's segment is called 50 Seconds in Seahawks History. i'm all The 50 seconds is just me. and We can talk about it afterwards. bureau to But I'm just going to present a special chapter in Seahawks history.
00:27:11
M dub
ah thought ah I've got a lot of little nuggets here. And start your clocks. We'll see. i have no idea how close to 50 seconds this is going to be. But I wanted to start ah and ready, set, go.
00:27:27
Tristan Amundson
Go.
00:27:27
M dub
There is one man who has officially been with the Seahawks for all 50 years of this journey. It is Mr. Steve Rabel. He was drafted by the team in the second round of the 1976 draft.
00:27:42
M dub
He had 24 total catches in his college career in Georgia Tech. Still got drafted in the second round. And in six years with the Seahawks, he had annual annual averages of 11 catches and 170 yards.
00:27:57
M dub
He retires just before the 1982 season when he's offered a job as a broadcaster, and he is still doing it today. The other person who is officially involved with the Seahawks the most is Sandy Gregory.
00:28:11
M dub
And she was hired by the team as an administrative assistant in 1976. And she worked with the team until 2018. And she's still very involved in helping the players from the 70s with a lot of financial help. These were not full-time year-round jobs. A lot of medical needs, thanks to the Kingdome, are coming up.
00:28:29
M dub
And Steve Rabel and Jim Zorn did a great interview with Sandy Gregory last year an official Seahawks podcast. Yeah. Steve Rabel, 50 years. i think of what if Jake Bobo was broadcasting for the Seahawks in 2075? That's basically what happened with Steve Rabel.
00:28:47
Tristan Amundson
That's pretty incredible. And it goes to show that the legend can can continue to grow after the playing career, right? Because Raves is a household name. He's, you know, beloved in the Seahawks community.
00:29:00
Tristan Amundson
um The only thing I can say to that is holy catfish. and that's That's the only thing that comes to mind when I think of Steve Rabel.
00:29:07
M dub
Yeah, I don't know if other franchises have a character like Steve Rabel, where he's just there at everything, and he just makes every event he's at better because he's just this the string of continuous history that really, i think, really adds a lot more to the experience of being a Seahawks fan than I maybe thought when I was younger.
00:29:29
M dub
That it's kind of all about the wins and losses. I think having a Steve Rabel
00:29:31
Tristan Amundson
Yep.
00:29:33
M dub
in the nest is is, is worth more than a lot of wins. I'll say that.
00:29:37
Tristan Amundson
Yeah, you know, it's a good point. The the history side of sports is interesting. i um we so we went up, as I mentioned, ah to Seattle this last week, and we were there for the Ichiro basically week of celebration because he was inducted into the Hall of Fame. And on Saturday, we weren't there for this, but on Saturday, he um was his number was retired um at T-Mobile, and um obviously he gave a speech.
00:30:07
Tristan Amundson
And it's really interesting when you think about and I was thinking about this as a fan, the emotion you feel when you look at a player and you say he's ours.
00:30:19
Tristan Amundson
Like that's that that's our guy. He's no one else's. He's that's my superstar. He'll he is not a Yankee. He's not at anything. that He is a Mariner. And i you know, we feel the same way as Mariners fans about Ken Griffey Jr. You feel the same way about Edgar Martinez, where you say like, that one is ours. And it's the same way with a guy like Rabel, maybe to a different extent, because to your point, maybe not the same story career, but it would certainly be the same way with, with ah a Steve Largent and frankly, Marshawn Lynch as well, where you say like,
00:30:54
Tristan Amundson
That's our guy. That's like Cam Chancellor. That is our guy. And he's nobody else's. he's He's ours. And there's something about that as a fan. you It kind of makes you feel proud that...
00:31:06
Tristan Amundson
um that that they're proud to be a part of the organization that you root for. I don't know. It's kind of a juxtaposition. There's something really kind of special about it. And to your point, I'd kind of forgotten about that as well until I saw Ichiro on the field and I thought to myself, he's ours. that's that's that He is a mariner and there's there's no other franchise that can claim Ichiro.
00:31:31
Tristan Amundson
And like that, that feels really good. It just feels... um ah what's the word I'm looking for? um Maybe validating. That might be the word I'm looking for. It kind of validates your experience as a fan.
00:31:48
M dub
Did Ichiro go in with a Miami Marlins hat to the Hall of Fame, or or did he stick with the Mariners?
00:31:52
Tristan Amundson
He did something really classy. It was he it was a Marlins, Yankees, Mariners. And I didn't like that the Yankees were in the middle. I thought that was kind of rude. But besides that, it's a really beautiful tricolored hat. It's it's great.
00:32:10
M dub
What an athlete. What an athlete.
00:32:11
Tristan Amundson
Incredible. No, absolutely incredible.
00:32:14
M dub
A lot of stretching out there in right field.
00:32:14
Tristan Amundson
A
00:32:16
M dub
Constantly.
00:32:17
Tristan Amundson
lot of stretching. um yeah Yeah. The funny thing, we should not make this the world's only Mariners podcast, but the funny thing that I learned about Ichiro this week, or not learned, I guess remembered, was apparently like before games and batting practice, he would put on like a show and like hit 450-foot home runs and just put them like all over.
00:32:41
Tristan Amundson
And people would be shocked. And I've heard this from a lot of people like over the years that... they would hear the sound of the of the ball hitting the and they'd be like, who in the world is like doing batting practice right now?
00:32:53
Tristan Amundson
And they would expect it to be someone else. You go down and Ichiro's just lacing home run after home run during batting practice. And like he's an interesting character in that way that he knew like,
00:33:06
Tristan Amundson
In that like in a a real game, like his game was predicated on on just getting contact. right He was just a ah pure contact hitter, hit it the other way. um But like that he had like this power that he just... yeah like It wasn't his game, so he didn't do it.
00:33:21
Tristan Amundson
But he he like had, the I guess, the discipline to like not try to hit the long ball that much in games. I think he was like a 10 home run kind of guy a year you know player. he wasn't He wasn't a big home run hitter, but...
00:33:34
Tristan Amundson
um Fun, fun memories. Anyway, but I'm done. I'll stop talking about the Mariners.
00:33:39
M dub
That is awesome. i didn't realize you yeah that you were able to go to that. That's really cool.
00:33:44
Tristan Amundson
Pretty cool. um Let's, let's talk about, she should we, is it appropriate now to transition to the current squad or do we need anything else for
Current Seahawks Team and Recent Changes
00:33:52
Tristan Amundson
77? Okay. Jump.
00:33:53
M dub
I think i think we have covered the 1977 Seahawks beautifully.
00:33:58
Tristan Amundson
okay
00:33:58
M dub
i know everybody else I know every Seahawks podcast was doing that, but we just had to get in there with with our take on the 1977 Seahawks
00:34:03
Tristan Amundson
jump
00:34:08
M dub
And we got the 2025 Seahawks too.
00:34:10
Tristan Amundson
jump on the bandwagon and just talk about a game that no one has thought about for probably, well, I don't know, 50 um Listen, Noah Fant is a really important piece of this team, ah Miles, and I think we're going to really see him ah shine in this offense. The more I thought about it, the more I saw even Ron Howard, the big tight end in the 77 game, could just get a beautiful catch over the middle. I thought of Noah Fant going up and getting it like a basketball player. How are you feeling about the tight end room and and where Noah fits specifically?
00:34:49
M dub
Yeah, well, I have spoken into this very microphone that ah I expect an 800, 900-yard season out of Noah Fant at any point. I was really caught off guard.
00:35:01
M dub
b maybe more so than the average Seahawks fan, but in fact, I'm still caught off guard ah that a few weeks ago, Fant was released from the Seahawks. Keep in mind that that's about 13 months after he was an unrestricted free agent in April of 2024. The team brought him back on a two-year deal.
00:35:22
M dub
Plays out the whole year. Let's this whole... Most of this whole offseason cycle go by. And then as training camp is getting started, they cut Noah Fant. And he's now a Cincinnati Bengal.
00:35:34
Tristan Amundson
Life comes at you fast.
00:35:36
M dub
That comes at you fast. I still... I have... I still think that 800, season is there. this move... I... just this move i I don't know why it didn't work out, actually. I mean, it seems to be the case.
00:35:51
M dub
Everybody's kind of agreed that but this just wasn't the right fit. And I have come to face that fact, but I'm still not entirely sure why. The guy caught such a huge percentage of his targets.
00:36:05
Tristan Amundson
Yeah, you know, I think, I mean, I think it's like the, um I think it is the most true and difficult thing about the NFL, which is if someone can do your job cheaper and younger, we're going to, we're going to move on. And I think now unproven, absolutely. But Elijah Arroyo coming in, being able to um at least take that role,
00:36:32
Tristan Amundson
um And, you know, also, you know, we loved what we were seeing last year from the tight ends and um from their growth. And I really do think that, like, he was just a victim of that. I do wonder also now, listen, Arroyo doesn't exactly seem like a blocking tight end. So actually, I'm not going to say that.
00:36:53
Tristan Amundson
I was going to say he's not a fit in the current offense because they're going to be so much more committed to the run. But Arroyo is not, I don't think, going to be God's gift to blocking either.
00:37:03
Tristan Amundson
I really think this was all finance. I think this was all just we can get it for younger and cheaper. So we're just going to move on. um But yeah, pretty, pretty wild, um pretty wild move. And I mean, is this the final chapter of the well, I guess it's not really because we have draft picks from it. I was going to say from the Russell Wilson trade. But this is the last of like the guys that we got, like the actual players that we got in in exchange for us. Right.
00:37:29
M dub
That is correct, but the trade is far from over with ah players like Mr. Devin Witherspoon coming over as part of that trade.
00:37:34
Tristan Amundson
Absolutely. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. The the draft picks aside. but um No, it was it was bummed to see him go. But I mean, man, he's probably going to the right offense, right? I mean, that is a loaded ah offense with a really great quarterback in in Cincinnati.
00:37:52
M dub
I was interested in the cap implications of this move, so because of the signing bonus that was given to Fant back when he signed that two-year contract in 2024, there's still a $4.5 million dead cap hit for Fant this year.
00:38:08
M dub
So there is that.
00:38:08
Tristan Amundson
whoa
00:38:10
M dub
it does It also does open up $8.9 million dollars in savings. Now, the Seahawks, actually, they are 31st out of 32 teams in terms of how much they are spending on their active roster this year. So they still do have a pretty good amount of capspace This took their cap space from about $26 million to about $35 million.
00:38:30
M dub
And at first I was disappointed because it looks like they're not really going to do anything with it this year. But I think the plan, and this is both, I think, a very smart and a very disappointing plan at the same time.
00:38:43
M dub
The plan is to roll over that cap space into future years because we are coming up really quick on a pretty mighty
00:38:46
Tristan Amundson
Yeah. Sure.
00:38:52
M dub
two draft classes needing their second contracts. So next spring, we're going be talking about extensions for the 2022 draft class, which is Charles Cross, Boye Mafé, Kenneth Walker, Kobe Bryant.
00:39:08
M dub
You want all four those, at least. you know
00:39:10
Tristan Amundson
sure
00:39:11
M dub
There's also Abe Lucas in that mix, but but I think those are four second contracts you definitely want. And then 12 months after that, we're to have the 2023 draft class, which is Witherspoon, Jackson Smith, and Jigba.
00:39:23
M dub
Derek Hall and Zach Charbonnet, those aren't going to all be team-friendly bargains, you know, nor should they be. And I think that is what John Schneider is anticipating, which is probably to like the correct move, but it's also signaling that, you know, it does, it is showing that the chips aren't all in on this season, which yes, is probably correct, but it just feels a little, you know, it it kind of felt, eve you know,
00:39:51
M dub
Signing DeMarcus Lawrence, signing Cooper Cupp, those are older players. Those were kind of chip all-in moves, you know. and vi But yeah, some wise, I think, savings here for the future, as ah unexciting as that is ah today.
00:40:03
Tristan Amundson
Yeah, it's it's the least exciting thing to talk about. Like, we're going to not spend today so we can spend tomorrow. It's like listening to Dave Ramsey talk about financial advice. It's like, okay, fair enough.
00:40:16
Tristan Amundson
But... It's still wise and it's, I'm i'm happy they're doing it. And frankly, it's a good time to do it because we kind of like the way this team is shaping up right now. And there's not, there's probably not a, a, a machination of this team that makes more sense than the current
Fan Reactions and Team Support
00:40:32
Tristan Amundson
version. So good opportunity to do it, save some money today. You don't need to spend a lot this year and and we can, we can move on.
00:40:40
Tristan Amundson
um How was it for you We're both pretty big Pete fans. I mean, how was it for you welcoming Pete? Gino aside, um ah Adams aside, both love those guys.
00:40:55
Tristan Amundson
Oh, Gino, a debt of gratitude as well. But, you know, Uncle Pete coming back into the stadium. How how did that feel? and And how long did it last, the feeling?
00:41:08
M dub
I did take a quick look because we we got those years when Pete Carroll was with the Jets and the Patriots in the 90s. He actually did not play the Seahawks as a home or road opponent in any of those years.
00:41:20
M dub
So this was his first time as an NFL head coach, at least, coming in to Seattle.
00:41:30
M dub
It was an incredible amount of emotions for a preseason game. I will say I do feel really bad ah that that Gino had to have that sign in his face. I don't think that's the consensus among the 12s by any means.
00:41:43
Tristan Amundson
So I didn't, I have no idea what you're talking about. I did not see the sign. What, what?
00:41:47
M dub
there's Somebody had a sign right right as the Raiders were coming out of the tunnel about like how Gino's a bust, and Gino and Max Crosby both flipped the guy off, and then they got a $10,000-$5,000.
00:41:54
Tristan Amundson
I heard about that part. Okay.
00:41:57
M dub
The articles all said that he made an obscene gesture. And I was like, what could that be?
00:42:01
Tristan Amundson
Yeah.
00:42:04
Tristan Amundson
Yeah.
00:42:04
M dub
And I'm like, does that have to say a scene gesture instead of flipping him off? The whole thing takes about 0.3 seconds when you see the video of it. um
00:42:14
Tristan Amundson
I agree with you though. I, ah there is no version of reality. i think that's like, that's such a silly take. Like I, I would, if that was my buddy making the sign, like, even if it's like, I don't understand that on, on any level. I don't understand it as a joke. I don't understand it as like, and are you actually serious? Do you actually have like hurt feelings that Gino's no longer the quarterback? And this is how you need to like deal with that emotion. that I mean, it's like,
00:42:45
Tristan Amundson
Like, what what are we talking about? Geno Smith was ah was a really good middling, like mid-level, you know, between 15th and 20th best quarterback as as the Seahawks quarterback.
00:43:00
Tristan Amundson
And now we traded him away and got assets for him. There's no version of that that should make a fan upset or make a fan think like you you're you're not losing a legend here. Like you're you're losing a good player. Like Gino's a good player. We owe him a debt of gratitude. He was a good quarterback for us.
00:43:18
Tristan Amundson
he's, and we he's not a hall of famer that left. He's not like, there's no version of this that makes any sense. Like, it's just as dumb of a take as you could possibly get to be angry.
00:43:30
Tristan Amundson
If anyone was booing Gino Smith during that game, it's like, I, I don't know what I'm smarter than you. Like, that's the only thing I can think like, i like, I'm sorry. Like you're, you are truly a moron. Like what, what are you, what are you angry and or booing about? Like,
00:43:49
Tristan Amundson
What are we talking about?
00:43:51
M dub
Yeah, i I did feel like that harshed the vibes a little bit, especially I think most people would agree with us about ah appreciating Geno.
00:43:59
Tristan Amundson
Yeah.
00:44:00
M dub
And that's, you know, there's there's ah there's going to be every type of opinion here and in this great big nest of Seahawks. But I think most people would be really appreciative of Geno. And his trade was one of those few NFL deals where, you know, it felt like a mutual decision.
00:44:14
M dub
And with Pete being in Las Vegas, it's like, let you know Let's find you a good place to land, you know which is so rare ah to be out of all the NFL transactions.
00:44:19
Tristan Amundson
yeah
00:44:23
M dub
you know And he deserves it.
00:44:25
Tristan Amundson
I can't wait for for us to lose Sam and then we can do the exact same thing. Just be so angry when like, it's just like, it's just so weird.
00:44:37
Tristan Amundson
its It's just such a weird take. I can't, I can't even comprehend it.
00:44:42
M dub
Here's what I'll say. that though The moment that really stood out to me in this game was... short yardage situation for the Raiders in the second quarter, getting close to halftime. And the 12s, dude, in preseason game, had things cooking so much.
00:44:59
M dub
And that play clock was winding down. And he he had to burn the timeout with about five minutes left in the half. And that felt That just felt weird and wild of like, yeah, this noise, it is the noise in the preseason to the point that he saw it coming.
00:45:18
M dub
Aiden O'Connell, the quarterback out there, didn't didn't see that play caught. And e Pete had to look out there for him, kind of knew the situation and had to call that timeout. that That was, it was a, moment I don't know what it means, but that was a moment.
00:45:32
Tristan Amundson
You know, that now that's the part of the fandom that I get that I think is beautiful. Like that, you know, people care and you're out there and it's preseason. But heck, football's back and we're going to have fun with it. And we're going to scream our our lungs out and, you know, probably go to work the next day. And we're going to have a hard time communicating and talking. We're going to a little bit of a hoarse voice. voice That is unbelievable. And that's incredible.
00:45:57
Tristan Amundson
you know, hopefully a harbinger of things to come that we're turning a corner and we're getting back to kind of the basics of Seahawks football. And, you know, and I think, that the identity of this team really um resonates with, with all of us fans, because it's ah it's an identity that we've really yearned for, I think for quite a while, which is play defense and, and run smash mouth football.
Player Performances and Future Potential
00:46:24
Tristan Amundson
I think we're going to love seeing Zach Charbonnet. And i think we're going to love seeing another young man playing. What'd you think of this fullback?
00:46:34
M dub
Robbie Oates.
00:46:35
Tristan Amundson
What you think? ah You can hear it right now, can't you? o it's It's going to happen. I mean, it's it's just a match made in heaven.
00:46:43
M dub
It is going to happen. my My theory with this preseason is that you can really only pick one player, maybe per game, and but maybe out of the whole month of August to really say, oh, this guy actually is going to have a a bigger role than you think.
00:46:57
M dub
ah
00:46:57
Tristan Amundson
Yeah.
00:46:58
M dub
that's That's probably the limit. um And for me, that player in this game was Robbie Utes. Had a great rumble for a catch, but the whole offensive line and the blocking just felt really different.
00:47:11
M dub
Felt really calm, really under control. We should say the Seahawks ah didn't really dress any of the ones for the most part. It it was like the rookies were dressed, ah like Gray Zabel and Nicky Manwari, but the the other projected ones were in street clothes the entire time.
00:47:30
M dub
Now, all the ones were giving, i would say, unprecedented energy as far as supporting their backups for a preseason game, which I thought was actually a really, i I thought that was a really big takeaway.
00:47:37
Tristan Amundson
so cool.
00:47:45
M dub
um but yeah see see how us go out there start starting with their second units and the Raiders did have their first stringers out there for at least the first few series um maybe two series on defense and one on offense and it it was Oots and then the left side of the line we got Zabel at guard and the free agent Josh Jones was playing at tackle really really uh paved the way for George Helani and Oots has the really crucial block on ah yeah like a touchdown run for Helani, and it feels like a big deal.
00:48:13
Tristan Amundson
yeah
00:48:19
M dub
like I thought Oots was pick number 105 in the draft. He's picked number 175.
00:48:25
Tristan Amundson
crazy
00:48:26
M dub
This is pick number 175 who's going to have a big role in the offense, I i think, for real.
00:48:31
Tristan Amundson
it's It's an identity pick for sure. And it's a pick that it speaks to who the who the Seahawks want to be. And I totally agree. And i I would like to think some of that is fairly um transferable. he's He's getting to where he needs to go, blocking the guy that's right there. Like, I don't think in a different scenario. I mean, heck, one of the early blocks it was on Max Crosby.
00:48:55
Tristan Amundson
Like, I don't i don't think... The job of a fullback, if you know how to do it the right way and you're willing to put your nose in the other guy's chest, I think that that translates. um But to your point, that touchdown run, um Jail sprung because he got that crucial block on the side.
00:49:11
Tristan Amundson
to put Helani in a position where he just had to beat one guy. Right. And, and I, it is something that, that Brock Huard said over the years that I really appreciate. um I believe one of his office offensive coordinators said to him, which is, it's my job to put you in one-on-one situations.
00:49:27
Tristan Amundson
And it's your job to win when you're in those situations. And when I see that play, that's what I see. I see um that was drawn up in a way that if everyone does their job, you're going to be in a one-on-one.
00:49:39
Tristan Amundson
And now all you have to do is beat that guy on the edge and it's it's your touchdown if you want. There's only going to be one guy that's going to really give you trouble. And that's a cameraman named Marshawn Lynch that's going to shove you in the back because you got a little too close to him.
00:49:54
Tristan Amundson
And that's if you're George Helani, that's the only real um danger of that play was was getting a little too close to Marshawn and Marshawn just doing doing something that literally, I think, on the planet Earth, only one person can do.
00:50:11
Tristan Amundson
and get away with it, which is shove a player after they got a touchdown and be a cameraman at the same time. It was unbelievable. It was a classic Marshawn moment.
00:50:22
M dub
It wasn't. Yeah.
00:50:25
Tristan Amundson
It's just, it's unreal.
00:50:25
M dub
Whether he's holding a camera lens or a football, that that the stiff arm is the same stiff arm.
00:50:30
Tristan Amundson
It's the same stiff arm. Yeah. I mean, and Helani obviously jumped right up and he was fine. It was not a big deal, but I thought that was so fun. um Can I give you a guy that just absolutely stood out to me and and I'm seeing it on your notes as well. So let's let's have a fun conversation here.
00:50:45
Tristan Amundson
i was watching the game with my wife and, you know, ah Jalen Milrose in, and I think he was the guy I don't want to speak for all of Seahawks um a nation out here, but I think, I think um he was the guy I wanted to see the most. i don't know if that's how everyone felt, but I mean,
00:51:08
M dub
It was. It was.
00:51:09
Tristan Amundson
it's It's your first preseason game. None of this really matters that much, to your point, right? There's only a couple of real takeaways. But okay, let's see what Jalen can do. That scamper, when he got out in the open to the right side and I think ran for 27 yards, 30 yards, whatever it was, um I believe it was 27, looked different looked so different then what quarterbacks like anyone looks like it. It was, it very much had a reminiscence of seeing Michael Vick get out on the edge and you're just like, Oh, he's, he's the fastest guy in this part of the field and no one's going to catch him.
00:51:51
Tristan Amundson
It was so fun to see a glimpse. Is that what we saw miles? We saw a glimpse of the potential of Jalen Milrow. And I was tantalized by it. I mean that that's, I only needed to see that one play to say, okay, like,
00:52:04
Tristan Amundson
Just keep using the virtual reality, man. Like just keep working. um but bad, like tantalizing speed.
00:52:12
M dub
I think that's exactly right. I think the play was so unusual. ah We were just talking about how in 1977, a lot of these running plays have the same kind of physicality, feel, and energy.
00:52:24
M dub
There's very few players where the football field looks and feels different. Michael Vick was one of those. Tyreek Hill is one of those.
00:52:32
Tristan Amundson
Yep.
00:52:33
M dub
And even though this is the second half of a preseason game in August, I do think it's fair to say that Jalen Milrow is one of those. was... We have a lot of quarterbacks in the NFL who are really skilled at picking up really efficient yardage all the time.
00:52:48
M dub
But this was doing that faster than you've seen before.
00:52:54
Tristan Amundson
I've never seen. Yeah.
00:52:54
M dub
Noticeably faster.
00:52:56
Tristan Amundson
Noticeably faster. And I don't, I don't throw it around lightly. Like it felt Michael Vick fast. It felt, it felt like your eyes, one thing watching the NFL, um i was to say every week, but that would be a lie watching the NFL in season multiple times a day or multiple times every week. Right. You're I mean, but by the time Sunday finishes, we're at well, no, by the time Monday finishes and then we're right back there on Thursday, right? So we we watch a lot of football and your eye catches when something looks different, when something is not like the pattern that you see over and over and over again.
00:53:33
Tristan Amundson
And yeah, I mean, this guy looks a little different than everybody else. um I'm not, I don't want to make too much of it. I'm not saying anything more than that. I'm not saying he should be in any kind of a competition for anything.
00:53:47
Tristan Amundson
I'm just saying that he has tantalizing speed. And I love the idea that we're going to be developing that guy. And I hope that we'll see him every now and again in a package over the first, you know, maybe maybe give him a couple of games to get used to the NFL before any packages, but It's going to be fun to see how they try to utilize him a little bit.
00:54:07
Tristan Amundson
And even more so if they don't even utilize him one ounce this year. The idea that that is a guy that's like getting worked on in the background is very, very interesting. Like I don't mind letting that marinate.
00:54:21
M dub
I do completely agree. As, as, uh, despite the praise from a few minutes ago, i was also giving it Jalen Milrow. I do think he is, he is QB three this year. And what I wrote down was Jalen Milrow is not ready today, but this story is going to have a lot of chapters to it.
00:54:37
Tristan Amundson
Yeah.
00:54:37
Tristan Amundson
Yeah.
00:54:37
M dub
I, I, I think, I think that's where we're at.
00:54:41
M dub
It was the Seahawks threes going up against the Raiders threes at that point.
00:54:45
Tristan Amundson
yeah
00:54:46
M dub
And there wasn't a lot of passing yards he was getting. So, as you said, get that virtual reality headset on, you you do need to be able to carve up the opponent in that situation to be an NFL starter. And we're we're not there today, but there there is a mighty steak marinating um in the in the background of this restaurant. That's for sure. well while While all the food is being served out front, there's a steak in the background getting marinated.
00:55:13
M dub
Does that analogy work?
00:55:15
Tristan Amundson
Who knows? we'll We'll let the people decide. If you want to tell Miles if that analogy works, you can text us at 555-322-997-235522. um I'm not going to say that number again because I won't be able to.
00:55:29
Tristan Amundson
um But i no, you're totally right, man. We'll see... We'll see what happens into the future. Long story short, though, it was fun have a ah ah preseason game one where there was a guy that you were very actually looking forward to seeing in garbage time, in meaningless football.
00:55:50
Tristan Amundson
But it's like, no, I want to see the guy do his thing. So super fun, man. Super fun to be back doing this. I mean, i can't believe it's already... You know, we're into August. the The first preseason game is already behind us. And, you know, we we got a whole season ahead of us. I'm i'm excited to get going again.
00:56:07
M dub
It is exciting. it it's It's exciting.
Conclusion and Excitement for the Season
00:56:10
M dub
It's good to be back. that these These seasons are long. These off-seasons are long. I mean, I can't believe how long the NFL off-season is since we started doing this.
00:56:19
M dub
It's a long off-season.
00:56:20
Tristan Amundson
Here we are. um We're back. Any concluders before we finish? Anything else you you want to finish with the the podcast with? Am I am i missing anything?
00:56:30
M dub
I do want to say about Pete Carroll, best of luck to him this year, but it is... we We believe in him in the long term, but it it is going to take... but There wasn't a ton.
00:56:43
M dub
When the Raiders were actually walking out there, you're kind of realizing, even Pete probably can't turn this around in one year. Even Gino.
00:56:49
Tristan Amundson
Yeah.
00:56:51
M dub
ah So I'll say that. you kind of When you actually see the Raiders out there, kind of realize, oh oh yeah, it took a few years for Pete to ah to build up the team in Seattle. And it's a similar situation here.
00:57:03
Tristan Amundson
Yeah. and You know, toughest division in football. ah You can make the argument, right? I mean, Sandy, well, not San Diego, l LA really, really good. um Kansas city really, really good. Like there's some, some really great, great teams.
00:57:19
Tristan Amundson
um And to your point, it takes a while to get it turned around. you you kind of under the impression that Harbaugh probably just about has l L.A. where he wants it.
00:57:29
Tristan Amundson
Now that he's been there, you know, for a little while, he's been able to kind of make it his own in the same way that we hope that Mike is OK. Like last year was awesome. But now, like, this is really, really your team.
00:57:40
Tristan Amundson
Yeah. So yeah, it's going to be tough sledding. But of course, I mean, Pete is one of the great head coaches of all time um in any sport. And ah all of Seattle owes him a debt of gratitude. And I don't think it's hyperbolic to say he's ah he's one of the guys that should never be able to buy a drink in Seattle.
00:58:00
Tristan Amundson
if he If he's looking, I don't know if Pete drinks or not. If Pete's looking for a Shirley Temple, though, he should not be allowed. Put your wallet away. Listen, your your money's no good in this city, man. what We all got you covered.
00:58:13
Tristan Amundson
We appreciate it because you you brought us something that no one else has ever done. So yeah, fun to see Pete and wishing him all the best.
00:58:21
M dub
Absolutely. Pete Carroll, Steve Rabel, Sandy Gregory, Seahawks legends.
00:58:25
Tristan Amundson
There it is. That's the list. That's the list. Um, i'm um I'm trying to think. There's one last thing i wanted to say before we wrapped up. What is it? I feel like there's something that we say at the end of these.
00:58:44
Tristan Amundson
Go Hawks.
00:58:45
M dub
Go Hawks.