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Extended Clip - Juventus 2023-24 Are WORSE Than Juve 2022-23 - The Allegri Disaster Goes On (Ep. 403)
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After Juventus record one point less after 28 Serie A matches during this season compared to last season, Nima Tavallaey and Carlo Garganese discuss, debate and analyze if Max Allegri has underperformed this year with the Bianconeri just like he did last year.
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Juventus vs Atalanta Analysis
00:00:02
Speaker
Welcome to the Italian football podcast. We'll start with Juventus against Atalanta. Big, big game for the Champions League race and also for Juventus. We start off talking about this from the Juventus point of view. The game, of course, finished 2-2, but this was a big game for Juventus because they were in dismal form going into the match, only one win in six, and they completely
00:00:32
Speaker
fallen out of the title race and were now looking over their shoulder at Milan who were right on their tails and even potentially the likes of Bologna as well. So it was an important game for Juventus and a kind of a strange game to analyse from the Juventus point of view.
Juventus' Form and Performance
00:00:50
Speaker
In the first half they largely had the game under control, had lots of efforts but created nothing
00:00:58
Speaker
of notes in terms of actual real chances. Then they went behind. The second half, Juventus were more threatening. Gieser came, who was terrible in the first half, was very good in the second half, along with Cambiaso. Those two kind of took the game to Atalanta more and they turned it around and they went 2-1 ahead and you think, well, Juventus are going to win from here.
00:01:22
Speaker
And then they let in a really stupid second goal for Coupe Miners, the second of the game, and they draw 2-2. So it was a strange game, Nimmo. I don't know. I thought it was a rather entertaining game. I mean, maybe defensively, Allegri wasn't too happy, and he has every right not to be happy.
00:01:47
Speaker
I mean, he's famously said about how you can't concede two goals a game, you can't win games that way. But I thought it was a rather entertaining game, to be honest. I thought it was... For the neutral, yeah. Yeah, I mean, I thought it was an entertaining game, but I thought you've...
00:02:06
Speaker
I liked Juva's tenacity. I liked how Juva reacted to situations. I think they looked good in the first half. I thought they looked in control.
00:02:25
Speaker
to be perfectly honest. Whether that was fool's gold or not, we can get into that, but I felt like Juventus had turned a corner in terms of their bad form. They didn't look like they've done in previous games. I thought this was a step in the right direction from that aspect.
00:02:46
Speaker
that they did concede a goal that somehow was a little bit against the run of play, if you will. But they reacted well to that. I mean, let's remember they equalized
00:03:00
Speaker
pretty, pretty well after I thought that move for the, the equalized was actually a nice move. Yeah, it was very good. Very good move with Kiazaa winning the ball. And then to Western McKinney who played a wonderful assist. I think that was his ninth assist this season, McKinney. And, and Cambiaso continues to have a breakout season. And then of course, McKinney again, four minutes later for Milik and it kind of cemented that you've turned this game on its head.
Juventus' Stability and Experience
00:03:29
Speaker
But
00:03:30
Speaker
The problem is that what we've seen with Juve is that they're not really, or not really, they aren't there yet. This season in terms of stability, in terms of not looking, it looks better than it did last season with pretty much the same players. I mean, they haven't exactly strengthened. Some would say they've weakened even.
00:03:55
Speaker
but it looks better this season than it did last on the pitch maybe form points-wise after 28 games it's pretty much identical and we're going to get into that too but I think it does look better than it did last season and I think if there is improvement there I just keep saying this weekend we can't I firmly believe it
00:04:20
Speaker
Yuva, this Yuva side aren't there yet. They don't have that kind of experience to kill off games. They've got the experience to come back and never say die attitude. They've kind of got that. We've seen that throughout the season. They are such a difficult team to kill off. And if you don't kill them off, they will come back and turn the game on its head. And they've done it time and time and time again.
00:04:43
Speaker
winning games late, turning around deficits, and so on and so forth. But they're not there yet to be the top side that wins three points after doing that. They've still got a little bit left to reaching that point.
00:05:02
Speaker
mentally as well as qualitatively, qualitatively especially. I don't think this is a very good event to side. It's identical with the one they had last season, if we're perfectly honest. So, you know, some would even argue it's a worse side than last season. But what we have seen on an individual level, I think Vlawic has improved this season compared to last. Weston McKinney for sure. I mean, he's been, no one thought he would be this good.
00:05:29
Speaker
Um, and, and, and so there are, you know, there are things to be positive about this season, but of course, if you're expecting you were to win the Scudetto and have a fighter, you know, fight the, for the Scudetto until the end of the season, you're going to be disappointed. But I think that's more time to your expectations, to be honest.
Progress Under Allegri
00:05:45
Speaker
I think what Juventus fans want to see, if they're not winning, I think what fans of any club wants to see if they're not winning trophies, top teams that is, if they're not winning trophies and they're not, you know, like Juventus haven't won a trophy now, this is the third season without trophies, we'll see if they can win the Coppa Italia this season. Three seasons, you want to be seeing progress, you want to be seeing something being built,
00:06:11
Speaker
for the future and clear progress. And we're now in the third season of Allegri and we've had no progress at all. I mean, the stats are there in black and white. 58 points this season now after 28 games.
00:06:26
Speaker
this time last season Juventus had 59 points. They of course had 15 points deducted so that they were actually in the table on 44 but on the pitch they had 59. So they have one point less this season now after 28 games than they did at this time last season which is terrible. Last season they were playing in Europe
00:06:50
Speaker
They had no board. There was complete chaos with all the stuff going on in the courts with the penalties coming up, taking points off. So they had all that kind of situation. And that was always giving them this excuse last season for Juventus underperforming last season. Ah, but they've got all this going on off the pitch. This season, there's none of that. They've got no European football. They're playing once a week. Even this Atalanta team, they're playing as an Atalanta team that's exhausted. They've been playing nonstop.
00:07:19
Speaker
And they've got one point less. You can't tell me that the football doesn't look better on the pitch. No, they don't. They absolutely do. They look better in terms of having an attacking identity. The attackers know better this season than it was last season.
00:07:42
Speaker
because again, the quality of the squad, I'm talking about the play. I'm not talking about how many goals you've conceded and how many goals you've scored. I'm talking about actively watching the games. You can't tell me that Juventus aren't better this season than they were last season. It's a much more, it's a team, it's a much more cohesive unit. It's a team that actually looks much more mature than it did last season with pretty much the same players. Now, is that good enough for you as a club? No.
00:08:11
Speaker
But there's also this notion of when you look in the mirror, what do you see? Do you see Hollywood superstar or do you see the reality? Juventus are not a Scudetto winning side. They just aren't. What they are is a team in transition in a new project. That's fine though.
00:08:47
Speaker
It's not one play. There's multiple games where they're completely dominant. The midfield is dominated virtually every game that they play. And that's down to the manager because Allegri is incapable of having a team that's able to control a game of football. And I mean, the excuses are out now. There's no excuses. First of all, it was the first season. Then it was all the stuff going off the pitch. This season is something else. The excuses are out. We're in the third season of Allegri. There's been no improvement of employment.
00:08:52
Speaker
and they have improved in terms of how they play on
00:09:15
Speaker
With Allegri, it's always about, oh, it's always about results. We told it's about results with Allegri. Well, the results
Allegri’s Tactical Approach and Player Development
00:09:21
Speaker
are worse. So what is it about? Is it about results? Is it about it prepared? Because there's neither of them. Because this squad isn't good enough. Neither of them. They can't make chicken soup with chicken poo. And this is chicken poo. And it's old. Now it's chicken poo. Six weeks ago. It's always been that. Now it's chicken poo. Six weeks ago. It's always been that. I said they've over performed all the time. Six weeks ago.
00:09:40
Speaker
form throughout
00:09:59
Speaker
of play. There are patterns of play. I have never said there are patterns of play. I've said it about two or three times the whole season. I've said this and that's my entire point now, that there are no patterns of play. There are patterns of play. There are exceptions. There are patterns of play. There are. Show me examples of Juventus building from the back in the same way that the same way that that Inter do with Inzaghi or the same way.
00:10:20
Speaker
they don't, they just get it out wide, cross the ball, do a long pass, that's it, they've got no patterns of play, that's the whole point, show me them, show me them Nima, just watch the game, show me them, look at how you went to score the goal for Cambiaza, those are exceptions, those are exceptions this season
00:10:39
Speaker
like it's it's nah come on there might be excuse it the excuse there is no excuse there is no excuse allegory has been an unmitigated 23 24 the squad is shit it's not better than this he has them over performing the fact that he was even in the discussions for a title race was a huge overperformance huge overperformance and that's just the fact that you're gonna have to accept western mckinney has got nine assists that is an overperformance on who he is
00:11:08
Speaker
it's
00:11:26
Speaker
getting paid 9 million was irrelevant to the discussion that's again to do with with the board the previous board and and what they used to the paratici and all that nonsense right that's that's got to do with them I'm talking about that I can clearly see Juventus improving on the pitch in terms of how they play and I look at the quality of the squad they haven't even strengthened with last season
00:11:47
Speaker
Like compared to last season, how have you improved qualitatively on the pitch? How what players have they brought in? Well, that's down to the manager improving again It comes back to the same debate that we're talking about play in terms of quality of the squad. Well, cute Vlauvitch has improved I think we can say Vlauvitch has improved me Vlauvitch has been outstanding. Vlauvitch has improved based on Gatti's been improved. Gatti is improved from an E to a D. So let's not let you know, let's not let's not over over, you know
00:12:16
Speaker
What I'm telling you is improved from last season to this. Can we ask him to do well? Mckenney's improved from an E to a D. We're talking about players who are good enough for Juventus. This is not top. No, they're not good enough. That's exactly the point. What you want him to do. Weston Mckenney suddenly magically turned into Peter Law. What do you want him to do? What do you want from him? Well, I'll tell you what he comes back to the debate that we had over in Zaggy versus Allegri and about
00:12:45
Speaker
how we view players, and I'm certainly not going to take Gattu and Mckenny as examples of those, but what Dali Eliadani said about how, you know, you view Inter from two, three years ago, and then you look at players like Makatarian, like Chalen Ogulu, and how in Zaghi you turn these players into players that, you know, people are considering as top, top-class players, like Cherby and others, that work when he signed them, and then how you take the same players that you've entered, who now play as people are considering as not being
00:13:15
Speaker
I've never thought Juventus had a good squad for the last two seasons. I think this has been consistently my point that I think that Juventus finishing in the top four on the pitch with this team. Last season the football was worse, was horrible. This season the football has improved in both phases of play. But the problem is this team qualitatively isn't good enough and mentally it's not quite there. But if you knew on set I do see improvement, I really do.
00:13:39
Speaker
Remember they're playing once a season. They are fresh. You wish they played once a season. They play well once a season, but yeah, they play once a week and they should be so super fresh and that should be such a big advantage. If they were playing twice a week, goodness knows how much even worse they would be doing this season if they were playing twice a week and they're still doing worse than last season.
Expectations for Juventus in Scudetto Race
00:14:06
Speaker
Playing one games, I mean, the excuses are out there.
00:14:09
Speaker
excuses around, you know, six weeks ago, before this bad run of awful run of form started, you know, everybody, well, not everybody, because the people that know, no, but there was a lot of people that were saying, Oh, Juventus are in the title, right? Some people, when you're leading the league,
00:14:27
Speaker
And yes, then I'm saying there were people saying that they could they were gonna go on and win the title They were actually realistically laughably saying they were realistically realistically gonna go on and win the title They were and then and those that said that they weren't was saying that they've improved The allegory was improving the event as and that next season they would be ready to challenge for the schedule
00:14:46
Speaker
I think next season with a proper Mercato, for the first time in two years, they will be ready to challenge for the Scudetto, depending on who takes over.
00:15:02
Speaker
But it's not true. It's simply not true. There isn't. The points are there. The points are there in black and white. I've given you lots of points to counter that point. And you just say, no, no, no, no, no. Because you don't like them. I mean, there has been improvement this season to the last. You're just not happy with the level of the improvement. And that's fair. I'm not saying anything against that. You can be unhappy with the progress and the rate that it's going. But to say that it's been flat, that it's flatlined, is ridiculous. The points are there in black and white. They've got one point less. How can you say there's been improvement?
00:15:31
Speaker
Because if you look at how Juventus have played this season compared to last season, you'd have to be blind not to concede that there has been improvement on the pitch. Maybe the results haven't improved, but you cannot sit here and tell me that the play on the pitch in both phases of play hasn't improved this season to last. And also not to mention the mental growth of the team. They haven't scored. They're not scoring more goals. The defence is pretty much similar level to what it was last season as well. So I don't see. They're not scoring more. They're not conceding less. Where's the improvement?
00:16:01
Speaker
Well, they are playing better. They are playing better. It's not a feeling. We're talking about facts. No, we are talking about facts. Watch how you were playing. Don't sit here and tell me that you aren't playing better football this season. Well, that's a subjective thing. No, it's really not. That's your opinion. That's not my opinion. If you watch, you will be playing better. My opinion isn't there. My opinion isn't there. There was nothing there last season. You were barely created anything. And it was genuinely unwatchable.
00:16:31
Speaker
But this season, there is actual things that you see movement, you see patterns of place, you see an identity, you see something that used to remind you of you there, even though it's not at the level you wish it was, but there is something there. And to say that, well, no, nothing, nothing. I mean, that's just too simplistic for me. I think I'm talking objectively, objectively.
00:16:51
Speaker
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00:17:08
Speaker
compare your opinion though compare uva how they play and how they attack and you're telling me that the players individual players haven't improved that the players that they that they're not that they don't have a much they actually have an identity they don't have no identity that's the bit that's the problem they do they have no playing style they have no patterns of play at all of course they do they don't
00:17:30
Speaker
They do. That's the whole point. I mean, listen, look, everybody that's listened to this, leave your opinions in the, in the, in the, in the comments, whether you've been to span or not, you've been spent. Do you think you've been supposed to be improved under a leg? Do you think there's patterns of play? Do you think things have improved? Let's see what everybody else. Compared to last season, compared to last season. Yeah. I think there has been, I think it's evident that there has, and there has been improvement on individual levels as well. If there has been improvement, there has been improvement. Every single one of these players have improved.
00:18:00
Speaker
after this season, he's been a total disaster. He's been a catastrophe. He's been a catastrophe. No, sorry. Vlauovic has improved compared to last season and the season last. That's exactly what I've been saying all along. I've been giving you examples of players that have improved. Let me finish. But is he better than the Fiorentina of Vlauovic? No, he's not. Oh, stop. This is becoming a point where literally anything good with Allegri's jouvert is countered by
00:18:25
Speaker
No. Something else that is really relevant. Do you think this Vlovich now, this season, is a better player than the Vlovich that was at Fiorentina? Yes! I see a much more mature player than I saw at Fiorentina. No. It's a much more mature and complete player. He's a better Vlovich than last season and the season before, which was obviously terrible.
00:18:43
Speaker
No, I'm seeing a much more mature... And he's getting back to the level that he should be, but he's not... I don't see him... I see a Vlaovic, who is much more mature, much more complete as a striker than he was two years ago. It doesn't mean that he's fully complete now. I'm saying that compared to when he came from Fiorentina, he was still very naive, a bit like a kid. Now, since joining Juva, it's been a difficult...
00:19:09
Speaker
very few difficult years, not just for him, but for Yuba as a whole. But this season, I definitely see an improvement on Wlawicz. I definitely see an improvement on Loqateli's 0 improvement. Loqateli is completely the same player that he was at Sassuola. Again, those listening to his podcast answer these points. Do you think Loqateli is a better player now than he was at Sassuola?
00:19:39
Speaker
No, I'm not talking about Sasolo. Again, I'm talking about this season compared to last. And of course he's a better player than he was in Sasolo. No, he's not. He hasn't improved at all from the Sasolo play. He's exactly the same player. Is he any better than the Locatelli that we saw at Euro 2020?
00:19:55
Speaker
in 2021. Why are we comparing with Euro 2020 now? Because that's when the events are signed. I'm comparing Juve this season with last season and I think that from Bremer to Danilo to McKinney to Locatelli to Vlawic to Cambiaso I see improvement from one season to the next and I think it's ridiculous to claim that there isn't. I see a Juve that actually
00:20:18
Speaker
has an attacking identity, even though it's not fantastic in zhoga bonito, but it is an attacking identity. I see a Juva with mental growth of a Juva site that is starting to show that they are building, there's something there now, after three years of absolute darkness and horror, I see something there. Now, translating that onto the pitch is different.
00:20:44
Speaker
that is the next step and I don't think that our lady is going to be there to do it and I don't think he should be because it's you can't have a situation where one half of the fan base hates him and the other half of the fan base is more than one half I can tell you it's whatever third half quarter whatever
00:21:01
Speaker
but
Allegri’s Tenure and Juventus' Future
00:21:02
Speaker
a lot of stupid ultra is to put up that stupid banner that that seems to that seems a lot ever okay whatever 20% whatever however you want to but there's a sliver of of the event is fans that support him and there's lots of events fans that absolutely despise him and you can't have the situation not just can't continue and and and i think that that's why he's going to leave and and and that's my feeling as well but regardless
00:21:26
Speaker
If Juventus are going to finish in the top four this season, I think it's obvious they are. And if they win a Copa Italia, that is obvious improvement after an absolute disaster of last season. There was nothing there. I mean, the nuclear bomb went off at you last year.
00:21:44
Speaker
and they're picking up the pieces now if you expect you were too good to come from that and start winning trophies and fight for this good to master thirty and i'm sorry but you're going to have done i don't know i've said that all along i said that when people were saying they could win this good to the season i said it's laughable to think that i could win the skedate
00:22:02
Speaker
you know, I think they are doing exactly what can. I also think it's laughable. And I've said all along, it's laughable that people see an improvement to the extent that they actually think Allegri if he was there this season could actually challenge for the Scudetto because they're, again, there's no, there's no challenge for the Scudetto objectively until match day, whatever it was 2220. So many teams asked to build up challenges for the Premier League in 9798 until Christmas, and then they finished 30 points behind the teams that that over performed for a while during the season, they can't
00:22:30
Speaker
And that's what you ever did. That's what you ever did. They overperformed. Yeah, but I'm talking about, I'm talking about those that thought they could actually win the Scudetto this season. It was laughable. And then, and then I'm saying it's laughable. Anybody that thinks that, that Allegri is improving the team and getting an improving, the improving event is to, to, to, to be actually be able to challenge for the Scudetto last year. There's no, there's no improvement objectively.
00:22:52
Speaker
in terms of points. There is improvement on the pitch and how they play an individual level objective. Again that's your opinion, I'm talking about facts. It's not objective, objective is it's black and white. Bremmer has improved this season to the last. Vlau which has improved this season to the last. You can't tell me they haven't. Weck Mckenny is having the season of his career since joining Uber. That is an objective fact. You can't tell me that's not true. You're picking
00:23:19
Speaker
out a little examples of players. I'm talking about overall. I'm talking about overall. There's no improvement in the event as a team. There's no improvement. That's what I'm saying. That's my opinion. Your opinions, they haven't. But I'm saying that the objective facts are they've got worse this season compared to last. I'm talking about objective facts.
00:23:40
Speaker
No, you're talking about points. The points, the attack, the defence, there's no improvement. Those are objective acts. Then you can have your opinion if they've improved. I'm talking about the numbers on the board, whether they be goals conceded, goals scored or points. I'm talking about the football on the pitch and the football on the pitch has improved. The problem is that it doesn't translate to
00:24:02
Speaker
points on the board and goals scored and goals conceded. And that is a problem. That is what needs to be addressed. But to basically look at this as a black and white simplistic thing and say, no, look, last season, same shit, no difference. That's silly. It's not true. The problem is it's just like with Inzaghi last season. Inter's Inzaghi played really, really well, but they could not kill off games and therefore they lost 12 games as a result of it.
00:24:28
Speaker
If Inter were losing 12 games but they weren't creating anything, there's a difference between that and what we saw last season when Inter were creating chances and missing sitters.
00:24:39
Speaker
That's the point I'm talking about. You have to look at the games. You can't just look at the numbers. Just look at the numbers and then do like this. And any idiot with a pair of functioning eyeballs can just look at Teletext, look at the standings and say, oh, well, I mean, come on. Well, that's your opinion. My opinion is this season, they were, even when they were in the title race, they weren't playing well. They were winning 1-0s. They were winning games. Last season, yeah.
00:25:02
Speaker
No, but this season as well, they were winning games with up until December, the attackers weren't scoring any goals. It was all goals from headers from corners and defenders and midfielders. And you can see who scored the goals in October, November, into December, who was scoring all the, you know, they were 1-0 wins. And humans unsustainable, which is what I've said all along. It's unsustainable. My point is that Juventus are not the finished product. Juventus are not, and neither are Atalanta.
00:25:26
Speaker
They're not, they are projects in transition in year one or year two or whatever of their project with you. It's literally just six, seven, eight months old. I mean, when did Juntoly take over? So my point is simply that I think there is improvement on the pitch and how the teams play and in how Juventus behave. I see improvement in key players in the starting lineup in terms of how they're playing, looking at the entirety of the season.
00:25:52
Speaker
And whether or not that's enough for Juve is a completely separate discussion. Whether or not Alegli should continue, completely separate discussion. But to claim that there is zero improvement,
00:26:06
Speaker
on the pitch and on an individual level, I mean, that's just not true. Then the problem is it's not translating to points. And that is a huge problem. And of course, the manager is always the one to blame for that utter completely. But if we nuance it... The only positives that can come of this, and you've entered on a dreadful run of form, last seven games, one win, three draws, three losses,
00:26:32
Speaker
The only positive to come of this, as I said last week, is that the Juventus management surely have to look at this and realise he's there, he's got to go now. They should be making decisions now, planning for next season, and this should confirm to them that Allegri is not improving the team and they have to hire their next manager now for next season and start building around what that new manager will want. I think it's obvious. If it's Thiago Motta or whoever else, whoever it may be,
00:27:20
Speaker
to make a decision period. Like it's not even about Allegri anymore. It's not even about, it's about what is this Juventus, this new Juve? What is the identity of it? In terms of what kind of football do we want to play? We know the identity of the club and how you behave and on the pitch and all of that, but that's, Allegri sorted all that. They're happy with him there. The question there is now, what do you want to do
00:27:24
Speaker
I think it's obvious.
00:27:47
Speaker
What kind of football do you want to play? Do we want to continue with the Allegri style or do we want to play a more progressive style similar to what Milan and Inter and Napoli have done when they've had success? You brought in Giuntoli, he was the architect behind the Napoli success. That to me is very indicative of where you would want to go. So that discussion has to be had regardless.
00:28:10
Speaker
and they've had to they had to make that decision and they should they should do it quickly and if they bring Tiago Mota in they need to give him time they need to give him two three years to do something because again this squad is not good enough without improving it is my point
00:28:30
Speaker
Yeah, I think there's definitely elements of the squad that are just not Juventus level. Absolutely. But at the same time, it's also down to the manager to improve these plays. And that's one thing that Thiago Motta has done. I mean, he's taken players that, you know,
00:28:45
Speaker
a year ago, you would not have thought are good enough to play, even for even for Bologna. And then he's turned them into players that are, are, you know, wanted by the biggest clubs in Europe, like Joshua Zucksi, like Riccardo Calafiori, you know, these kind of players, you know, I mean, we know, and that's, that's the whole point I'm making about Allegri is that this is what you know,
00:29:08
Speaker
you can look at the manager and you can say this player for Juventus is not good enough or this player for Juventus is not good enough. Well, is that because they're actually not good enough? Or is that because the manager is is not able to improve them and develop them. And that was the whole point that the Danny Ali Adani debate that we had a few weeks ago about how in Zaghi two years ago was taking on players who actually many of them were considered not good enough for Inza and he's turned them into among the best and that's down to this
00:29:37
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He's not just in Zaghi as much as I love Filipe Simoni in Zaghi as a coach and as a tactician and you know I was pretty much the only person to do that back in 2017 since then.
00:29:50
Speaker
It is also the club as a whole. It is also the fact that Beppe Marotta is there, that Pipiara Ocido, that they've built a structure, that they understand what kind of football do we want to play, what kind of players do we need to bring into that, and also respect financial parameters and not end up having SWAT teams barging through the window, okay? None of that has existed at Yuba, none of it. And now you have Juntoly there and you're trying to do something along those lines.
00:30:19
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Um, and therefore that's what I take issue with, with this Allegri criticism. Um, it's one thing to criticize, but to just blame everything on him. It's just, well, no, they're not. Yeah, of course. I absolutely can't blame everything on him. There's been lots of things done around it, but when you're talking about player development, that's the coach that's simply down on the coach and, and, and the coaching team around him. Absolutely. And the quality of the players available to the coach. No, I mean, Oh yes, absolutely.
00:30:44
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But again, it comes to, again, Anthony Aliadani's point is, you know, Inzagi was taken on plays like Makatarian, like a Cherby, like Chalanoglu, and he's turned them into world beaters, you know, with his work, with his fantastic work on the training ground and developing these plays in... Well, because the scouting was done properly, and the quality of those players, with all due respect, I think Chalanoglu and Mikitarian,
00:31:06
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are better players than Weston Mckinney. No, but we're not talking about Weston Mckinney, we're talking about players like Locatelli, we're talking about players like Giese, like Wlawovic, you know, we're looking... The kids always had an ACL, I mean, in terms of, luckily... Locatelli versus Cello Nogolu in 2021, there's no even debate.
00:31:21
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which player was at a higher level and which player was seen to have a bigger future and wanted by the big clubs and everything. And then look at the way that these two developed. One is completely the same now three years later and one is now maybe the best in his role. That's just one example. But this is the whole thing that we're bringing in a Tiago Motta that maybe he can make some of these plays. Maybe he can make
00:31:45
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Locatelli become one of the best midfielders in the world, you know, like like Chalen Okaluk, because he's good at developing players, whether I don't know, you know, so that's just an example. But that is why you've entered need to move now. And that's the positive of this bad run is that hopefully it can lead to bring to making that decision now, rather than, you know, just paper and over the cracks.