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Springtime: Sunshine, Growth, And College Football Speculation
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TJ and Pat make their return. They put a close on the college basketball season by discussing their final rankings of the Mid-Major Top 30. They then move into some Spring Football Discussions for teams and relevant player news. Then they close up with a deep dive into the PAC-South Baseball Conference and what to expect for the remainder of the regular season and the season at-large.
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Podcast Returns: NHL and College Sports
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Travis White
everyone, welcome back to the PacSouth podcast. We are back once again after a small little hiatus. Got going into some NHL playoffs and got out of some NHL playoffs.
00:00:14
Travis White
um Pat's still alive. We have lots of good sports going on, but obviously we are here for the college sports.
Mid-Major Rankings Exclusion: Gonzaga Discussion
00:00:22
Travis White
And if you follow us on Instagram, Today we just posted our mid-major final rankings. Those have finally come out.
00:00:31
Travis White
And, Pat, I'm going to pass this over to you with your mid-major knowledge. Really fun to see these like finally come out. Again, a reminder for everyone, Gonzaga not on the list for a mid-major. That is just a really good team, period. So we exclude them, although they may or may not have been number one regardless. We don't know. necessarily. But I will pass it over to you to really dive into those rankings.
00:00:57
Pat Q
Yeah, I know, like you said, we tend to keep Gonzaga out, but all of the other WAC teams, so Santa Clara, St.
St. Louis Tops Mid-Major Rankings
00:01:07
Pat Q
Mary's, who had really nice seasons, were featured, San Francisco, Francisco,
00:01:13
Pat Q
had a chance to kind of be on there if they had, let's say, closed the season a little stronger and maybe be made um a better push for the NCAA tournament. But yeah, if you guys follow us on Instagram, you may have seen it up already.
00:01:27
Pat Q
But we kind of tried to take into account both, I'll say, like how you performed in the regular season in your conference tournament. And then, of course, if you had positive NCAA tournament results.
High Point vs Miami, Ohio: Tournament Success
00:01:41
Pat Q
So um St. Louis led the pack for us just because of their consistency this year in the A-10.
00:01:47
Pat Q
Of course, they didn't end A-10 play probably the way they wanted to, but they had a big first round win in the NCAA tournament, played really, really close against a Michigan team that wound up winning the national championship.
00:01:53
Travis White
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:02:01
Pat Q
So I think that's what really pushed them over for me. and put them into that number one spot. And then, you know, maybe a little surprising to have a team like High Point ranked against, or excuse me, ranked ahead of Miami, Miami, Ohio after such a good regular season from Miami, Ohio. But again, we want to reward tournament performance. And while Miami, Ohio got a play-in win, High Point did get that actual in-tournament win over Wisconsin and then played decently close against a pretty good Arkansas team.
Wichita State's Performance Decline
00:02:37
Travis White
Yeah, for sure. And then obviously you looking at it, you round out that top 10, Tulsa at nine, New Mexico at 10 directly in on the semifinal results there.
00:02:48
Travis White
um Nice to see teams like that kind of get rewarded as well. i mean, you see Utah State. great mountain west team this year um new mexico just kind of falling apart there toward the end of conference play there they just could not get past utah state boise state and obviously not on list they kind of had a down year for that program in colorado state um just kind of the mountain west really ate them a bit interesting to see a team like wichita state be it as low as they are um kind of
00:03:11
Pat Q
Yeah.
00:03:21
Travis White
Not really talked about that much, but I feel like the conversation needs to be had a little bit. Wichita State, since moving to the American Conference, has kind of seen a step back in athletics. Do you think that this is a long-term issue for the Shockers, or is this just a quick transition?
00:03:38
Pat Q
I think it's more of a transitional problem right now. I don't want to say that this is like a program killer or something like that, because they were a few games away from the NCAA tournament this year, right? It's not like they were some kind of crummy team um that didn't really have a legitimate shot. You know, they could have been the representative for the American in the NCAA tournament had they played a little bit better in conference tournament play.
00:04:05
Pat Q
um And then they played pretty well in the NIT, so it's not like they're totally dead in the water, let's say. But I definitely think there have been some growing pains for Wichita State. It has not been the smoothest of transitions. Obviously, the whole Greg Marshall firing um wasn't great when it happened. And then trying to get those pieces into place, right, to transition into a new era, transition into, let's say, like higher level play.
00:04:33
Pat Q
um Didn't exactly start super strong, but I could definitely see this being a team ah that makes the NCAA tournament next year, especially with South Florida being such a big question mark, losing their coach.
00:04:47
Pat Q
Tolta's had some guys transfer out in the portal. So you never know. You know, the Shockers could be back where we like to see them and where March Madness fans will remember them next season.
00:04:47
Travis White
who
Troy's Sunbelt Dominance Potential
00:05:00
Travis White
For sure. And a team that I think has a chance to make the the dance next year based on their conference and based on kind of how that program has seemingly grown over the past few years. Curious to know your thoughts on Troy.
00:05:15
Travis White
It seems like a Sunbelt Conference is a conference that never really solidifies itself in a program each and every year. It's kind of wide open. I like the Trojans to kind of start to actually do that now.
00:05:29
Travis White
It seems like, yeah, they still have some step back seasons, but they're not as volatile as some of these others may be.
00:05:30
Pat Q
Yeah,
00:05:37
Travis White
Do you think that we can see the Trojans next year in the dance?
00:05:41
Pat Q
yeah I definitely could see that. You know, they've been really consistent in conference tournament play over the past two seasons. Yeah.
00:05:49
Travis White
Yeah. Mm-hmm.
00:05:49
Pat Q
And like you said, the Sun Belt is getting better, right? I mean, like Marshall was a pretty decent team this year um in comparison with the rest of the conference, let's say. And also Arkansas State is kind of one of those up and down programs where they're a little hard to figure out. They'll have some pretty solid ah competitive years where they're right on the verge of tournament contention. And then they'll kind of just disappear for a little while. So I think they're a team to keep an eye on a little bit if the Red Wolves decide to funnel some more money into basketball. um
00:06:22
Pat Q
But yeah, Troy is definitely cementing itself as a pretty strong team. say like member or powerhouse of the Sun Belt. And, you know, it'd be kind of fun if we could see Troy football make that same type of resurgence and same type of revival. and They had some really good years under John Summerall just a few seasons ago. So who knows, maybe Troy football and basketball can start, say joint joint running ah the Sun Belt West again.
00:06:52
Travis White
Yeah, the only conference that still has divisions. I want to give a big shout out to the Sunbelt for not removing them, albeit probably yet.
College Basketball Recap: Transition to Football
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Travis White
But it's still great to still so have divisions in some of those. It creates different dynamics. And yeah, you want a conference title to be the best two teams. However, you can also still have the best two teams duking it out in division play just the same.
00:07:17
Travis White
So there is our kind of bookend for college basketball this year, our mid-major. Again, shout out the Billikens of St. Louis for taking home our, I guess, mid-major national title this season.
LSU Football Investment: Upcoming Season Prospects
00:07:30
Travis White
And then we'll now go ahead and start kind of turning the page to next year in football. Spring football is happening right now, and for some camps, it's kind of already wrapped up.
00:07:41
Travis White
um We've been hearing a lot of news about Transfer Portal. We've been hearing – A bunch about just players in general, seems like this year. want to start with a program, though.
00:07:52
Travis White
Lots on the coach, lots on the money being spent. Is LSU our clear-cut number one team in the nation going into the season?
00:08:03
Pat Q
feel like it's still early to make that call, you know? Um, obviously, like you said, they've heavily invested in the program, obviously heavily invested in Lane Kiffin. Um, but mean, we're still in May and we're still seeing some of these teams do spring games.
00:08:21
Pat Q
Some programs like South Carolina kind of doing away with the spring game a little bit and doing, let's say like practice and festivities instead.
00:08:26
Travis White
Thank you.
00:08:28
Pat Q
um I don't know. I think LSU is obviously going to be really, really good, but to crown them the de facto number one, I think that might be a little premature.
Should Indiana Start as Number One?
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Pat Q
And maybe we want, we want to consider, you Ohio state for that mark.
00:08:45
Pat Q
Um, you know, I'm sure in the rankings, just because oftentimes the reigning national champion doesn't exactly get disrespected. We might see Indiana occupy that spot. Um, but I definitely think this LSU team is going to be loaded. going to be super, super talented.
00:09:01
Pat Q
Um, But as always with LSU, I feel like a part of that is going to be, can they tune out the noise? You know, like this is obviously going to be a team with a ton of buzz around it, a ton of media attention because of everything that went down with Lane Kiffin and Ole Miss last year. So can they focus and can they actually win games or does this become a circus like we saw the last few years under Brian Kelly?
00:09:27
Travis White
For sure. You mentioned Indiana. I mean, yes, number one team. I'm a big proponent of a national champion should at least enter the season number one.
00:09:39
Travis White
You know, from there, they lose, you know, get out of the way. But I feel like you earn that number one ranking until you lose if you're a national champion. A lot of key pieces coming back. Indiana does spend more money.
00:09:53
Travis White
um Do we believe in them the same way with this supposed roster bulk with Josh Hoover at quarterback?
Impact of Betting Scandals on College Football
00:10:01
Pat Q
know I don't know. don't know. Because Hoover is definitely prone to turnovers. You know, that was his big problem at TCU. um But also, Fernando Mendoza was entertaining at Cal, but he was nowhere near the Heisman caliber player that he evolved into. So it could be one of those scenarios where, you know, Coach Sig is just this quarterback whisperer, quarterback guru. Once they get in the room with him and his staff, they start getting...
00:10:28
Pat Q
let's say coached up a little bit better, little bit cleaner and minimize some of those mistakes that might've plagued them or hurt them.
00:10:36
Travis White
sure and then we're going to switch teams but stay on the quarterback Brandon Zoresby I don't think we can kind of avoid this given the last couple days and the news has come out but that's
00:10:49
Pat Q
Yeah.
00:10:53
Travis White
one, not overly groundbreaking for Texas Tech fans, but it's kind of groundbreaking for modern-day college football as these kind of prediction markets are becoming more common.
00:11:01
Pat Q
Yeah.
00:11:04
Travis White
Sports betting is becoming kind of desensitized. Like, we're seeing it a lot more and each and every day. And then you have NIL just being still... an uncharted territory, even though we are now like pretty much five years in still very much like trying to figure out what's going on there. And for him to have placed 1000s of bets.
00:11:26
Travis White
And I'm certain that he's not the only person in college football today that has placed bets now probably that is on the higher end of bets.
00:11:31
Pat Q
No, definitely not.
00:11:37
Pat Q
Yeah.
00:11:37
Pat Q
Yeah. Yeah.
00:11:37
Travis White
But nonetheless, like
00:11:41
Travis White
He's definitely not alone in that regard. And it looks like he's only bet on his team, which we would hope that if any of these kids are doing something like that that, that is the case. We're not throwing games. But this is kind of a big, big question mark for college sports. I think that NCAA does need to hammer that down pretty quickly.
00:12:01
Travis White
That being said, whether he bet on or against his team, do we i i don't think we see Brendan Sorsby again, right? I mean, it's just...
00:12:09
Pat Q
Yeah.
00:12:10
Travis White
it's just so much that's a lot of money a lot of bets a lot of things going around um not to mention i mean assuming he's probably placing his best with his n nil deals so that's immediately you know it's a whole thing it's it's very unfortunate um i mean he's looking to get the help that he needs which is great to see at least um but i mean for texas tech you go out you spend your money on a quarterback
00:12:21
Pat Q
Right, right.
00:12:27
Pat Q
It's red flag.
00:12:34
Pat Q
Mm-hmm.
00:12:40
Travis White
Now he is almost certainly not going to be starting a single game for your program.
00:12:45
Pat Q
Yeah.
00:12:47
Travis White
Is Texas Tech now like, oh boy, we're hitting the panic button? Do we still think that they have a good enough defense, even though there are they lost a lot of pieces last year? I mean, probably not as dominant.
00:12:59
Travis White
Can we still make a big 12 in a playoff run?
00:13:02
Pat Q
I mean, I think just because of the, let's say, investment that Texas Tech has clearly made in their program, I'm going to go with yes. Like, they can be relevant in the Big 12 this year. They can be on the cusp of that playoff berth.
00:13:18
Pat Q
But I think a big question for them is going to be who actually is under center. You know, they've got that redshirt sophomore. i believe his last name is Hammond, who's coming off an ACL injury.
00:13:28
Travis White
Mm-hmm.
00:13:29
Pat Q
They've got... um Kirk Francis, who transferred over from Tulsa. So they've got some options, got some choices in terms of who is going to be under center.
00:13:40
Pat Q
And I think that is probably the biggest question for Joey McGuire is, are you going to go with probably like the safer option with a less... let's say explosive or high ceiling and Francis who's had game experience. You kind of know what you're getting there.
00:13:56
Pat Q
Or are you going to go with a kid who's coming off an ACL tear who could be super explosive or could really need to shake off that rust? um I don't know.
00:14:07
Pat Q
The big 12 always seems to be question mark. I feel like when it comes to who's coming out of there, you know,
00:14:11
Travis White
Yeah. Mm-hmm.
00:14:16
Pat Q
Two years ago, it looked like Iowa State was probably the favorite in the conference. And then Arizona State gets hot out of nowhere and makes it to the CFP and gives Texas a heck of a game. Um...
00:14:28
Pat Q
Then last year, again, I think if you ask most people before the season, you would say probably either K-State or Iowa State were their favorites to win the conference. And they both lay an egg.
00:14:40
Pat Q
And Texas Tech, who was right there with those teams because of, as you mentioned, that NIL spend, seizes advantage of that and kind of cakewalks to the CFP.
00:14:53
Pat Q
Unfortunately for them, it probably didn't end the way they wanted down in Miami.
00:14:54
Travis White
All right.
00:14:56
Pat Q
um But i don't know. I feel like because of the question mark that is the Big 12, yes, this team is still good enough to make it, even if Brendan Sorsby can't play.
Texas Tech's Football Resilience Amid Scandals
00:15:09
Pat Q
um What are your thoughts on that, TJ?
00:15:13
Travis White
Yeah, I think I think Brendan Sorsby was kind of the tipping point because I love that Texas Tech defense last season.
00:15:21
Pat Q
Hmm.
00:15:21
Travis White
I mean, they lost a lot of players and they lost an all star in Jake Rodriguez.
00:15:23
Pat Q
Maybe.
00:15:26
Travis White
I think that. on ah in a similar sense, like he was that star on the back end. And I think that he deserved more recognition for the Heisman and more recognition just as the all-around defensive player that he was. He got a good bit of it. I still think he could have gotten more.
00:15:43
Pat Q
Yeah.
00:15:43
Pat Q
Yeah.
00:15:43
Travis White
um
00:15:45
Travis White
I think that that defense is going to take a significant step back and the offense probably needs to continue growing forward. And I just, I don't see how Texas tech will compete on the same level. I don't think they make the playoff. I think they make noise in the big 12, but at best the big 12 is a two team league.
00:16:05
Travis White
I don't think that they get more than two teams in. And to be honest, if I'm BYU fan, I'm probably pretty happy right now. I feel like BYU has the best chance to make it, um, to the college football playoff this season.
00:16:12
Pat Q
yeah
00:16:18
Travis White
And I would not be surprised if Arizona state kind of quietly comes back. Um, I think Kenny Dillingham is still a pretty good coach. He's still young, so he's learning.
00:16:27
Pat Q
Yeah.
00:16:27
Travis White
That's why we kind of see the step-back season that they had last year. Albeit, they did lose a lot of pieces. They lost ah great running back in Camp Skadabo to the draft a year prior.
00:16:38
Travis White
so I see Arizona State kind of quietly sneak its way back. I think you're going to probably have a few more teams play more consistently throughout.
00:16:51
Travis White
like I think Cincinnati will be better, but probably still be around the same record they had last season. I think you see UCF kind of make a little bit more of a step forward. Teams like that who have been quieter, I think,
00:17:04
Travis White
You could have Iowa State kind of play spoiler. I think that they're still sitting around that six, seven win mark, even with the new head coach there.
00:17:11
Pat Q
Probably.
00:17:12
Travis White
I think they can play spoiler on a lot of these big teams, Texas Tech probably being the main one for the Cyclones. So it's unfortunate for the Red Raiders and Brendan Sorsby, but I think that he really was a home run get for them.
00:17:32
Travis White
given the portal and given where everyone else kind of landed. And it unfortunately is not going to turn out for them.
PacSouth Baseball Standings and Contenders
00:17:40
Travis White
So that's kind of my view on the big 12 and what we have going on in Lubbock.
00:17:46
Travis White
So we'll dance now over to baseball, current season baseball, as we will discuss our PacSouth podcast ah conference standings. And right now we have Florida State in first place. Not a crazy surprise there.
00:18:02
Travis White
i would say the larger surprise will be second and third place right now, given how streaky these teams have been. One on the upswing again, one on the downswing. UCF and Florida.
00:18:13
Pat Q
Mm-hmm.
00:18:13
Travis White
So the Peninsula State is still maintaining the top three spots as they were the last time we discussed.
00:18:19
Travis White
But Oregon State, Oregon State loses out on a lot of points for not being in a conference. They're currently in fourth right now. They are just under 20 points. They are 18 points behind Florida State currently.
00:18:35
Travis White
Do we think that they have a legitimate shot in this conference? And i guess I should also ask Well, actually, I'll hold on that, so we'll get to that one later.
00:18:46
Pat Q
Okay. Um, I'm going to say yes, but they definitely have a legitimate shot in the conference big picture wise, right? Because I think talent perspective, let's say, um, Oregon state probably is the deepest team in the conference. And I trust this Oregon state team the most to make, um, a fairly deep run in the post season, have a good shot and making it to Omaha, things like that.
00:19:15
Pat Q
Um, I believe at the beginning of the season, my top three for our conference were, think I did FSU, Florida, and Oregon State.
00:19:26
Pat Q
So that's looking good. ah But i definitely think that Oregon State can, let's say, like compete um with higher end programs when they get the opportunity.
00:19:40
Pat Q
You know, for us, in our case, the unfortunate thing for them is those opportunities to pick up points are pretty limited since they're not playing in a conference this year. Obviously, that does hurt them.
00:19:50
Travis White
Mm-hmm.
00:19:52
Pat Q
But continuing to win games, at least they're picking up points along the way, still getting points, I believe, for series wins and things like that. um Just not to the same level.
00:20:04
Pat Q
So i will say, yes, they are a contender threat, however you want to phrase it, to win the conference. But I'm going to put the caveat in, assuming we are taking this tally after the postseason's
Oregon State's Path to Baseball Title
00:20:20
Pat Q
concluded.
00:20:20
Pat Q
um
00:20:21
Travis White
Yeah.
00:20:21
Pat Q
Realistically, based on conference points, they just can't catch up. But
00:20:26
Travis White
Yeah. Yeah, no, this will go all the way. i mean, i also think Oregon State is a very real contender. I like their chances to actually make it to Omaha this year. I think if they don't make it to Omaha, though, they're going to have to really rely on a team like Florida State getting bounced early in the ACC tournament and not making out of their regional.
00:20:36
Pat Q
Uh-huh.
00:20:46
Travis White
I think that if Florida State is able to either make a deep run and possibly win the ACC tournament, and or make the Super Regionals with a respectable conference showing.
00:20:57
Travis White
I just don't think Oregon State is going to have the real estate unless they go and win the national title. Of course, national title, you're basically designed to then win the conference
Recent Baseball Performances: South Carolina, New Mexico, Central Michigan
00:21:06
Pat Q
Yeah.
00:21:07
Travis White
based on points.
00:21:08
Travis White
It's still possible you don't if you don't have a good enough regular season, but it's worth a ton and nearly statistically impossible for you not to win the conference at that point.
00:21:19
Travis White
So I like them as well, but... I don't like them right now, which kind of gives a hint at our final question of the day, but there's still more answers to be had there.
00:21:30
Pat Q
yeah
00:21:31
Travis White
Second last question and topic, I guess, of the day. You have recent surges from South Carolina, New Mexico, and Central Michigan. South Carolina, of course, making the midseason change from Paul Mineary to Monty Lee at coach head coach.
00:21:46
Travis White
New Mexico, kind of same thing as UCF and Florida, kind of having really streaky seasons at certain points. I do believe New Mexico at one point dropped 11 games straight and have since come back and won about 12 of their last 14.
00:21:53
Pat Q
Yeah. Mm-hmm.
00:22:01
Travis White
So they started one of the last three undefeated teams in the country to them losing 11 straight. And now we're back towards the top of Mountain West play and Central Michigan, now that they're in MAAC play, have kind of found their footing. They've actually been able to knock off a few wins and steal some series in there as well. Do we consider any of these teams contenders for the conference? Right now they sit – um Let me see here. 29 points and 30 points, respectfully, off of Florida State. Is there a real chance if we end the season right?
00:22:42
Pat Q
That's a tough question. um
00:22:48
Pat Q
I mean, know, there's always a chance, I'll say. um don't think that any of those three teams, South Carolina, New Mexico, or Central Michigan, have a legitimate chance at winning the conference. But I will say if New Mexico, they're probably the team I have the most consistent faith in.
00:23:08
Pat Q
If they keep it up and they can win the Mountain West, ah that would be huge.
00:23:08
Travis White
Mm-hmm.
00:23:12
Pat Q
I think they could easily finish top three in the conference if that is the case. um South Carolina obviously has looked a lot better under Monte Lee, but still, you know, the question marks remain of like when this team goes up against, let's say, don't know, Florida or Texas in the SEC tournament.
00:23:35
Pat Q
what team's going to show up, you know? They look great against Kentucky this past weekend, but even when they played in Georgia, that was kind of a Jekyll and Hyde series where there were some really great moments and then there were some really ugly moments. So I think until we get some consistency out of South Carolina baseball, I just can't trust them to make that type of jump in the standings. um But I do believe that New Mexico can easily finish top three.
00:24:05
Pat Q
I don't think catch FSU, but definitely top three.
00:24:09
Travis White
Yeah, I did have New Mexico as one of my top three teams when we started the season. And I do think that if anyone is a contender of this group, it is New Mexico, just given the schedules that these teams have less left and the consistency of their play.
00:24:20
Pat Q
Yeah.
00:24:27
Travis White
Central Michigan has the schedule for it remaining to have a chance and make a run. I just don't think they have a consistent play. I think that they really fall even further into that Jekyll and Hyde syndrome of just, you really don't know what team's going to show up.
00:24:38
Pat Q
Yeah. Mm-hmm.
00:24:42
Travis White
And as I mentioned before, and didn't really say that they've been winning series. I said that they've been stealing series. um So Chibowas are in a better place. I mean, they could possibly grow with this season, but I just don't see them doing much. South Carolina, similar thing. Like you say, like,
00:25:00
Travis White
They've played Kentucky and Missouri recently, and they have series wins and sweeps against the two. Those are two of the worst teams in the conference. You put them up against a Florida. Can they do that? You mentioned like the Georgia series since Monty Lee's taken over.
00:25:16
Travis White
They just still did not look any bit sound in that. So can they get any consistency against these better teams in conference play? Probably not. And the unfortunate thing for South Carolina lana as well You can't really take this probably as a building season because it's highly unlikely you have Monty Lee losing the interim tag in Columbia.
00:25:38
Travis White
So that then kind of leaves New Mexico by default, but with good reason.
00:25:41
Pat Q
Yeah.
00:25:43
Travis White
already mentioned a lot of them before, but that Mountain West Conference, I think, is wide open for them. I think if they continue to stay on the more consistent,
00:25:54
Travis White
Baseball they've been playing throughout the year has been good balls, been high offense. I think if they're able to do that, win the Mountain West Conference and make at least the regional final, there's a conversation to be
Predicting Baseball Regular Season Champions
00:26:06
Travis White
had for the Lobos.
00:26:06
Travis White
So yeah, I'm with you.
00:26:07
Pat Q
sure
00:26:08
Travis White
I think that that is kind of our only real contender in that group of three. Now, on to our final bit of baseball.
00:26:19
Travis White
who will actually win the regular season. um Now, I'm not going into, you know, how does regional, supers, and conference tournaments get into it.
00:26:31
Travis White
Just when we finish up in roughly a month, how are we going to finish up? Who's going to be our conference regular season champions?
00:26:46
Pat Q
I'm going to go out on a limb here. I'm going to go with UCF. I think the big 12 kind of like in football is not exactly solidified. Let's say, um, I think there's three teams.
00:27:03
Pat Q
It's what Kansas Arizona state and UCF are all tied for first in the big 12. I'm pretty sure. Um,
00:27:09
Travis White
Last I saw, ucf was coming back on Arizona State, but I have not seen in a few days. But that probably is at least in the ballpark.
00:27:14
Pat Q
yeah. Um, I think it's like those three are all roughly around the same record, um, in conference play.
00:27:25
Pat Q
If I'm wrong, hand up, I'm wrong. But, um, I, I do trust this UCF team to get hot when they need to get hot, um, and carry momentum over the course of something like a conference tournament where in the ACC, obviously Florida state's been really, really good this year.
00:27:41
Pat Q
um, But the ACC is also pretty deep. You know, Boston College has been kind of a surprise story this year, just being super aggressive on the base paths, stealing on like literally everybody.
00:27:55
Pat Q
i know that clip went viral. I guess it was probably two weeks ago at this point where they're stealing on Duke while they were up like 18 runs. um Tough scene.
00:28:02
Travis White
Yeah.
00:28:04
Pat Q
But, ah you know, I feel like the ACC – has more of those opportunities for Florida State to stumble, where the Big 12, if you see a UCF goes in playing consistent good baseball and not making mental errors, I think that they win that conference tournament.
00:28:24
Pat Q
Not easily, but we'll say confidently.
00:28:31
Travis White
i Hate that you went that way. I was already kind of leaning toward UCF. i Even when they were on their like skids, they still made a lot of these games interesting.
00:28:45
Pat Q
Okay.
00:28:46
Travis White
um They've played a good bit of extra inning games. They've played a good bit of one run games. So I feel like they are battle tested in that regard.
00:28:58
Travis White
But since you went that way, i don't know if I can go away from Florida State. And i was already it was already tough. I think Florida, I wanted to go with them a few weeks ago, but now they are just on a full skid.
00:29:11
Travis White
I don't think that they will have time to recover before the end of the regular season. um Florida State, still very good team. I think if Oregon State was in a conference, it would probably be pretty easy to say Oregon State.
00:29:22
Pat Q
Yeah. Yeah.
00:29:23
Travis White
probably mentioned them earlier. But Florida State, really good. I mean, they are also benefiting a little bit from teams like Duke, who we thought were going to be better than they were going into the season and in a non-conference play. They kind of hit ACC play and just immediately took a nosedive.
00:29:40
Travis White
um So Florida State, obviously, benefiting from tales like that against conference opponents. So I think that Florida State, even with – a slip up here and there.
00:29:52
Travis White
we'll We'll get it done. Barely. Barely.
00:29:56
Pat Q
I was going to say, like ACC, I don't know. For me, like Georgia Tech and UNC both worry me um for Florida State. But...
00:30:05
Travis White
I feel like I worry more about Georgia Tech for Florida State than I do UNC.
00:30:09
Pat Q
Yeah.
00:30:09
Travis White
um But I mean, all very good ball clubs and definitely higher caliber than something that UCF can really run into in the big 12 on given weekends.
00:30:18
Pat Q
Yeah.
00:30:21
Travis White
Um, again, I like UCF, the lead that Florida state at least has right now helps a lot in me being able to go against your decision to take my original decision.
00:30:28
Pat Q
Because...
00:30:30
Pat Q
yes
00:30:33
Travis White
So we'll stay what roughly three hours apart from each other. See how everything turns out in the sunshine state. Um, And then we will be back again next week with our regularly scheduled recording and posting date.
00:30:49
Travis White
Thank you all so much for listening, tuning in and following us on the billion platforms that we are now on.
00:30:56
Pat Q
snap
00:30:57
Travis White
um But until next time, we will see you all later.