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Speaker: I think yeah I want to start the intro and I can start the intro with, well, that went according to fucking plan. Hello, all of you wonderful listeners to the Fog of Warcast.
Speaker: And you might have noticed now that we did a shorter episode or we aimed to keep it shorter. It still became yeah almost 40 minutes when we talked about Hearts of Poland.
Speaker: If you haven't listened to the episode Hearts of Poland, I would strongly suggest that you pause this episode, go and listen to Hearts of Poland, and then you come back to this episode because we are going to reveal how it went.
Speaker: Exactly. And to make it short and sweet, it went really, really well. I am incredibly happy. Yeah, I understand you're incredibly happy. But can you just recap from the last episode what we talked about and then we'll get into good stuff.
Speaker: Yes, so dear listeners, what we're going to do today is that we're going to talk a little bit about the game in general. We're going to talk a little bit about about what Johan did and then we're going to finish with the Poland part.
Speaker: But in the previous episode, Johan coached me on how to play Poland with an airplane build in the Hearts of Iron 4 in the mod which we play in, which is a version of the Finest Bro mod.
Speaker: ah We went through ah how to do an efficient Poland build-up, how to get the most out of your planes, where you want to deploy them. And then we talked a little bit about the secret sauce, which was that i was not only playing with planes, I was also playing with spies.
Speaker: Yeah, and it was a good secret sauce, one has to say. I mean, and but first of all, I really want to say that if we had a coach's badge, I would want that coach's badge. Yes. Excellent coaching.
Speaker: Thank you. But but let's let's run down, the first of all, the the game in general. So for you those of you who have not been listening a lot to us talking about Hearts of Iron, what we do is that we play in a community called Hygge Hoj.
Speaker: And you can find them as Hygge Gaming on YouTube. And there you can watch the entire match. So it was casted by a bunch of our friends. I think it was, was it Petey and the victorious time or who like p in Victor Victor casted and they are the usual casters. But they also had Kevin who was the first time technician and he did really well.
Speaker: Excellent. So you can watch the entire entire game casted, and i advise you to do it because it's fun. It's also more than nine hours long, which is a fantastic way to spend half your weekend. And I strongly advise you to look at it.
Speaker: if you don't want to If you don't want to pause the pod now and spend nine hours watching a YouTube clip, Let's just have a quick rundown of the game. So the game started in the usual sort of historical way in which we play.
Speaker: That is, we build up from 1936 until the essentially the invasion of Poland. And in the meantime, dx the Spanish war happens and Japan is allowed to invade China.
Speaker: We don't have a player on China, so they always win. and then the game starts properly when they invade Poland. Yeah, that that's that's basically the important part and the important rundown.
Speaker: And if you don't want to watch nine hours, you can just skip the first four hours and come in after lunch break because we always have a lunch break when war starts. Yes. So just four and a half hours instead.
Speaker: And in the game we played this time, some some interesting things happened. First of all, Poland remarkably did not hold. No, they did not. Not even slightly. Partly because I built, I mainly built fuck ton of airplanes.
Speaker: um Also because Poland just can't hold. Secondly, France almost held... France almost held. France held from August 39 to November, December 40.
Speaker: for what I mean, it it was over a year they held. I think it might even be slightly later. I think they were alive in in the beginning of 41. yeah They might have been. it and here is my...
Speaker: that my little thing that I played the Soviet Union. So when the war starts, you don't care. you You start to look at, okay, when will Barb come?
Speaker: And we have some dates in in our roots and in our community. It can come early, spring 41, which you don't want as the Soviet Union. You want to build up and build up.
Speaker: But as long as France held you knew that the Axis were going to have to do a later barb. So shout out to the France player or French player.
Speaker: He did amazingly well, but he did also have help from the UK. He got the land leases from the US and he also had Polish spice. Polish spice and Polish airplanes. Yeah.
Speaker: So we have the constant green air over of France or more or less constant. Yeah, which which is great. And you also utilized your spice in a great way because spice in this game neglects planning and entrenchment. I don't really know how the spice does that, and but it works.
Speaker: Yes. it It is really, really good. I mean, of obviously they run around in the middle of the night and fill in all the trenches. Yeah, apparently, or they go up to Germans and says, no, sorry, your bunker doesn't work anymore because I've seen it.
Speaker: Exactly. Yeah. But after that, the game kind of worked on. It moved on in quite a quick phase. Yeah. Yeah, we had a very short excursion from the Axis in Northern Africa.
Speaker: They didn't really get anywhere because they were too late. But they had to start Barb. Yeah, but then they had to start Barb. So they start Operation Barbarossa and it goes, okay, I would guess, ah you know better.
Speaker: But early on in this, very early on in Barbarossa, Allies invades Finland from the north. Yeah, Alex Invades Finland, and I have to say a shout out to all the Axis players for this.
Speaker: they had a good bart They had a good start, but then again, we also had a good defense. I played on the southern front, and we had Pontus, who you will meet later on when we talk about Heroes of Might and Magic.
Speaker: He was the main controller of the Soviet Union. We also had Boppers, who makes guides together with Badger on their channel. And we had a guy named Seth playing Mongolia.
Speaker: We lost in the south because all the German tanks were in the south. But we won in the north. yeah They encircled us. We encircled them. So we're kind of an easy trade-off.
Speaker: And then the Allies invaded Finland from the north. at In the meantime, um leading up just in the early parts before and during Barb, we also had some engagement in Asia.
Speaker: So Japan, Siam and Manchukku attacked India and attacked. severely undermanned and they broke through the sort of first and second rivers and we thought they were going to do really well but ah remarkably they first stalled a little bit on the land and then they managed to pull off a bunch of naval invasions and we tossed them out every time I think it was mostly the South African and Canadian tanks that tossed them out it was really good
Speaker: And after a while, they gave up on trying to push that front and just to try to take Australia instead. They succeeded. But whilst they were taking Australia, we were kicking Finland.
Speaker: Yeah, you were kicking Finland. The the only problem was you were kicking Finland up to a point. And if you guys don't know, supply plays a huge role in Hotspire and So you took half of Finland.
Speaker: the or more than half of Finland. Yeah, when you guys naval invaded Helsinki, we were so close to actually capitulate them. Yeah, but we didn't really get there.
Speaker: so But Finland was contained. Finland was, for all essential, out of the game for for this instance. yeah And that was good. The problem was that we were losing, and with we, I mean the Soviet Union, we were losing tanks and we were losing infantry.
Speaker: Yeah. in an alarming rate in airplanes. We started with 3,200 airplanes.
Speaker: And this was when Barb came in 1942. In 1943, I consolidated the planes we had left less than 500. Oh. Yeah. Germany at the peak had somewhere around 6,000 to 7,000 fighters. Yeah, because Martin, who played the main controller of Germany, he likes tanks and he likes airplanes. And he played a really, really good Germany.
Speaker: A really good Germany. and Hats off to it. But They encircled us and killed us in the south. But we chewed through infantry in the north.
Speaker: And it's one thing for the Soviets to lose troops. You're supposed to lose troops as Soviets because you have first wave mobilization. You have a lot of extra stuff you can get in.
Speaker: Germany hasn't. Germany can't replace those infantry divisions. Exactly. And there was something we noticed later on when we ran our first D-day. So we ran it in 1944 and it was successful on the first attempt. And it was mostly successful because they just couldn't fill the border. They just couldn't bring enough troops to actually block us.
Speaker: And they had to abandon on the Eastern Front entirely. So the moment they came to kick us out, you guys just started sneaking from Soviet almost all the way to Berlin. Fortunately, I took Berlin before you could. You did, you did, which is a good Poland.
Speaker: But I also have to say this, and this is shout out to Pontus, who was the main controller. We had and some Red Guard tank divisions in reserve.
Speaker: We hadn't deployed them. yeah But when Badger, who played the UK, came in and said, we have a D-Day, it is so successful, start pushing. Pontus deployed these Red Guard divisions, and we had tanks.
Speaker: Where hence the Axis did not because we encircled and killed the Bulgarians and the Hungarians. So they were left with infantry. And infantry is good. Infantry is good at holding a line.
Speaker: Sure. But it can't beat tanks. No. So we could just blitz. And I know this. i was... As a coach, I was happy to see the Polish-Paris take Berlin.
Speaker: As a Soviet player, I was annoyed us not taking Berlin. But it ended with, the just to do a quick recap, we had Japan left.
Speaker: Yeah. But the Euro-Axis, they were out. Yeah. They capitulated. Game was done. I'm a little bit sad that we didn't get to actually fight the land war against Japan because you guys were almost already set up to sweep them and they hadn't even exited India yet.
Speaker: We were set up to sweep them both in India and into Manchuk and into Northern China. And the US were supposed to take the feat, but we didn't get that fight. i From what I've heard, and if I'm wrong, Ivan, see who played Japan, please correct me, but...
Speaker: they wanted to fight. Yeah. But the rest of the Axis, understandably, because they had, the Euro Axis had Italy left and they were about fall. Yeah, and we also already had Southern Italy yeah since earlier on.
Speaker: So they had a really bad position to start with. Yeah, and we had Northern Italy also. think we sunk the Italian fleet as well. The Italian fleet was sunk. So... Japan wanted to fight, and I think all of the allies would have been up for that fight.
Speaker: But that would have dragged the game on for another one and a half, two hours. And Axis decided to capitulate. But i have to give it to the Axis. They fought until the end.
Speaker: yeah which Which is the fun part with this game, because they could easily have said, when the D-Day occurs and Soviets start pushing them, they could have said, oh no this is over, Yeah. Bye, guys.
Speaker: But they fought to the last, which respect. And I would have done the same. It was a fun game. It was a very game. Let's dive into Poland.
Speaker: Yeah, let's. So... What happened with Poland was exactly what we said we intended to do. I did. And it worked perfectly. It was amazing, actually. You should actually be able yeah to sit here. This is the first time me and Andreas are also at the same place recording this.
Speaker: You should see that big happy smile on Andreas' face when it says it worked according to plan. And it did. Mostly my plans don't work. Mostly i pay infantry nations and my job is to be killed in droves.
Speaker: Yeah, basically. But this time you weren't playing an infantry nation. well You were playing an open-ended nation, but you decided fighters and spies.
Speaker: Yeah. So what happened was um when they invaded Poland, I managed to fly away with about 120 heavy fighters. The Rus, so the second level heavy fighters, 1940, I think it is.
Speaker: Yeah, it's 1940.
Speaker: and dump them in in England. I also managed to escape with about 10 ships, which didn't play any further role because I forgot about them. hey Easy.
Speaker: I mean... it was hanging out in Scapa Flow doing nothing. um And from then on the game started, i also had four spies. And the moment I fell, I started doing the focus to get a fifth spy. So we had five spies and were quickly building up from 120 planes to about And of happened.
Speaker: and then france sort of happened So what I did was essentially deploy my heavy fighters to help UK maintain green air over France.
Speaker: And despite Germany building a lot of planes, with me and with UK, we could essentially guarantee green air all the time. I also started deploying spies.
Speaker: So I had deployed spies essentially along the borders in India and in France and on the Italian front with France. And also a few, ah one guy was standing in Tobruk.
Speaker: So essentially all the France where we wanted to fight, I was there ready and disrupted their entrenchment and their planning. And I hope that it contributed to the fact that they just couldn't break through. they They almost couldn't take Holland and they really couldn't break through all of Belgium. And they just, at some points, they stepped in a little bit into France and then they were kicked out.
Speaker: The offensive troops just couldn't break our defensive line. Yeah. No, and i I spoke some with Martin, who was the main controller for Germany afterwards.
Speaker: And yes, Franz did a really good build. ah He is a good meta player. He's a good Franz player. He knows what he has to do. But both me and Martin think that the disruption from the spies with zero planning and zero entrenchment for the Germans probably played a bigger role than the France build, to be honest. it's So the spies did their job and the pictures you sent me during the game kind of validates this. Yeah, I actually took screenshot the entire time because i I knew no one else is going to watch the spy game, so I need to actually document it for it for the future. Yeah, and it was a nice thing to come and say to and my comments in the Soviet Union that they don't have planning, they don't have entrenchment, they'll get clicked out.
Speaker: And while you were doing this, the most important thing, I think, ah the Allies took North Africa. Yeah. So this is interesting. Two things happened here.
Speaker: ah So first of all, In France, we had spies breaking their organization and we had Green Air. So they had a lot of debuts in every fight. yeah Remember, it's not just that I break their planning. It's also that me and especially UK give them all the debuts of ah being inferior in the air game.
Speaker: So they had a shit ton of debuts. And then in Africa, they also don't have entrenchment on any of Tobruk or any of the major cities or in the mountain ranges.
Speaker: And I don't think I contributed that much. But after a while, I moved my plan planes from France over to Africa to help in the attack. And we gained the same double whammy with green air plus spice.
Speaker: And i think that I think that was important because what we almost always run into in our games is that you can take a piece of northern Africa and then when you reach Tobruk, you try to take a city in mountains with tanks yeah And it always sucks and you always fail.
Speaker: And this time you just ran them over. Yeah. mean They were not reinforcing as much because they still had a defense problem to deal with. But if that combined with the fact that we had all the extra bonuses, I think did a lot.
Speaker: I think it did a lot. And it's also an interesting part to look at this. Because not only did France, Holland, that's good, not only did the the Germans or the Axis lose manpower and equipment doing this, you delayed BARB, which gave the Soviet Union more time to prepare.
Speaker: Yes. So we were actually... we were further along our plans than we thought we were going to be, which really, really helped.
Speaker: But then also, i I really, really want to give ah from the Soviet perspective, I want to give a shout out to Badger, who played UK. ah Yuri, who played the US, and also Rosen, who played India.
Speaker: All of those three lend-leased a ton of equipment to the Soviet Union, which made it able to us for us to field more divisions, to field more tanks, to keep up with the Germans.
Speaker: yeah Because the Germans had a really good production. And this is something I know we miss out on in a lot of our games. We forget to lend-lease the Soviets or people get too ego egotistical and don't want to get rid of their own equipment.
Speaker: Or we lend least too much. We send too much over, so all of the convoys, because you do need convoys so to get the equipment. Yep. And also, I mean, Rosen, when he he understood that he was going to get capped as IndieUp,
Speaker: He dumped all of his equipment into us in Mongolia, which which is, Rosen, thank you so much because we needed those guns. We really did. ah But ah yeah ill just just to say it like this, I love it when a plan comes together, but this plan didn't just come together. It came together and exceeded expectations.
Speaker: Yes. Remarkably. Yeah. So what happened later on? We we had an India fight. They invaded India. I was there. I was sending planes. I think I contributed a lot to help us keep the airspace free.
Speaker: But my spies were shit. Yeah. And this is where it's something really important, I think. So I had spies in and disrupting the invasion of India. But Japan, I think it was Japan at least, it might have been Monshoko, also played a spy game and positioned spies along the same front. So my spies were captured a lot.
Speaker: yeah And this goes to show that spies are not some kind of weird the hidden superpower that just works. You can counter them. Exactly. You can counter them. You just need to actually do it.
Speaker: Yeah. You need to do it and you need to get the upgrades to actually counter spies. Exactly. So I was not that much. wasn't that impactful during India. Not a spy game. And the airplanes were, well, I mean, they helped, especially since they were heavy fighters. I could deploy them further back and help them.
Speaker: And here i want to add something. ah In the focus strip of Poland, I get a bunch of Spitfires. You do. Light fighters from UK. The problem is I can't take that focus until France has fallen.
Speaker: So it took me like almost a year and a half before I could actually get out the the main bulk of early planes. yeah I was playing with just my 120 150 heavy fighters.
Speaker: ah for the first year ah so and later on I managed to deploy all of everything down to India and I mean UK deployed almost three times as much so that was mostly their fight and in the meantime and in the start of Barbarossa before we we went to Finland I tried to get the Warsaw Uprising to work. It's hard to get.
Speaker: Yeah, I spent so many hours with so many spies and just couldn't get resistance up enough in Poland. So I couldn't facilitate the uprising. And in post, I should not have done that. I should have given up on it and I should have just put more of my spies on every front and just kept destabilizing. you i think we could have done Finland way better if I had the more spies up there.
Speaker: But at that point something remarkable happened. I finally managed to get out my first paratrooper divisions. Yeah, you had one little Polish paratrooper division, but just to come back to the Wars of Uprising.
Speaker: It is really good when it fires, but i from all the games I've played, I've seen it fire once, which actually was me that did it. But then I had to dump all my spice into it and was still touch and go for it.
Speaker: And it fired... Unfortunately, the Soviets weren't attacking when it fired. So, yeah. And I think the thing in our game is that stability and everything like that is so high because we we essentially don't exploit diplomacy too and we don't um to lobby for different governments and stuff like that. And we have rule sets about that. Yeah.
Speaker: But it also means that it's fairly hard to actually get resistance up to a point where it is a real problem. But I have to ask, because i since we were fighting the hard fight on the Eastern Front then and I was standing South, did your para division, did it survive the whole war?
Speaker: No, no one ever survived. So I want to talk a little bit about my paras because they were fun. yeah So first of all, my paratroopers were shit. It was essentially just, I think, 20 width of troops, no cannons, nothing.
Speaker: um Plain paras. Yeah, I spent almost all my factories on planes. I had to spend some on military equipment because I couldn't get enough materials to keep building planes with every factory. Yeah.
Speaker: um No one then leased me any special forces equipment, so I had to build it up myself, which is why it took some years. But finally, I got two or three divisions out.
Speaker: So in Finland, I started spending them. So I parodropped on three cities in Finland, and I have written up the names, but they are in Finnish. So I parodropped on Vasa. I parodropped on Olu.
Speaker: and also on some temporary capital in the middle of Finland and I managed to take all three of them and I lost one para division each time because they just stepped over me because Finland is very strong on the home turf and my paras are weak as shit But it essentially has disrupted things, which was what I intended.
Speaker: But then something fun happened. So when we D-Date, oh no, yes, I have it brought up here on my computer. When we D-Date, I managed to do once again a few fun drops that died.
Speaker: managed to take Frankfurt. sold that one. I sold that one. But then also so I have one division which is hilarious because it has, and this is the one that took Berlin, this one has 10 medals.
Speaker: Oh. And i just want to run through them because this is this is the fun guy. i say just want before you run through this, Andreas is going to say a lot of names now, a lot of places. We will not supply you with a map for this. You will just look at Google Maps, look at where Olu and Vasa and all of those places are. Well, I'm also going to mispronounce everything.
Speaker: Yeah, but I mean, we are doing this. We are native speaking Swedes. ah We try to take this in English. We're not great at that. So we are going to butcher every other language. Exactly. Exactly.
Speaker: Take it away. So in 1944, in the, in September, starting in September, they are not in order. Starting in August, I think.
Speaker: This guy manages to seize the airfield at France Conte. Not her in Cotund, but it did it. ah Liberated Besancon and Dijon.
Speaker: Successfully paradropped on Besancon. Sorry, do you just want me to go in and say, be san cool and then do Sean? Sure. yeah I'm trying to say this. French is a language. And I don't know what you're saying in German. So...
Speaker: um so So I took that and then we have in um in September took part in the occupation of Berlin yeah because we were essentially attacking Berlin. and I was para-dropping on it with the rest of them. So I guess a few other allies to have some credit to gain. yeah But I was there. I got the medal.
Speaker: If you get the medal, you're the one taking it. so Exactly. And I also have the successfully para-dropped into behead Berlin ahead of main deployment medal. So I can prove it with screenshots.
Speaker: I took the, when we started pushing down and taking Spain, I managed to take the airfield at Beja, Beja, I don't know. I have no idea. Me neither.
Speaker: And then I seized the airfield at Lisbon, took part in the siege of Lisbon, and took part in, I was the only one in Lisbon, I just dropped over them. yes And I walked down and took part in the siege of Porto.
Speaker: And Para dropped into Porto. And finally I almost managed to walk all the way down to Seville.
Speaker: And that's when the game ended. so this guy, he he was out sightseeing. Yeah, he was out sightseeing and he survived. Which is, hands down, good work from the Polish.
Speaker: Good contribution from the Polish. i I just have one... Another guy also paraded Madrid. I wish it was the same guy, but... But yeah you can't win them all. I just have one question before before we kind of wrap this up. yeah We can say that the coaching was good, the execution was even better, but... The memes were the best.
Speaker: The memes were the best. I think one of my parades, and this guy has more victory points than all of India. Yeah, probably. and i would imagine. think only of the Allies player, only the UK player probably took more victory points than this single division. And it's a little bit of cheating because I was just dropping ahead of the army all the time. yeah but it is hilarious. ah But that's how you you're supposed to use paratroopers. But I have to ask you this.
Speaker: I have two questions here. Firstly, have you been bitten by the Poland bug? No. You have not? I think I've come to realize how important the spy game is.
Speaker: But now I want to try the spy game on an infantry nation to see if I can finally make my infant infantry punch through. Yep. Fair enough. I respect that. Secondly, this went to plan.
Speaker: This was good. But now in hindsight, what could you what would you wish you could have done differently? I decrypted lot of ciphers.
Speaker: It was entirely meaningless. I misunderstood the mechanic. I thought that the bonuses from breaking the cipher would transfer to my allies. It didn't. So essentially I had the cipher of all the major Axis players and the best I could do with it was giving my paratroopers a tiny, tiny, tiny Any bonus on the build?
Speaker: I mean, and if you have 40, 50 divisions, yeah, of course the cipher is good. And it's really, really valuable. But when you have, admittedly, a very good power division. Not even very good, just very lucky. Yeah, he was very lucky. he didn't even have cannons.
Speaker: so I mean, you don't need cannons when you drop out of an airplane and you're Polish. you can You can go on with the Polish. It's even worse. I did another mistake. I didn't realize that it would be so hard for Poland to get a branch ah specialization.
Speaker: That is the focus that you go for two kinds of special forces. So all my um doctrines were invested, or not all, but the the doctrines I had invested in Special Forces was invested in mountaineers.
Speaker: They wanted to boost a few mountaineers while I was defending my mainland in the beginning. So my my paratroopers were pretty much as bad as possible. Yeah, and this is something we didn't go over in the other episode.
Speaker: um I could have told you this. I'll take my responsibility with this. But all in all, I think you played an excellent game. I think you played as good as you can with this build for Poland.
Speaker: um I'm a little sad you haven't been bitten by the Poland bug. Absolutely. But I think this kind of shows that you can take a small nation or an underdog nation and still have a great game impact.
Speaker: oh Speaking of, I want to say something, a final thing about spies. So late in the game, I had the five fairly well-trained spies. When we did it, I had them deployed across all of Germany.
Speaker: So whenever we kept walking into Germany, we always had the more or less a full or as full as possible spy network built up. And i at that point, I guess other people were de deploying spies as well. So it was not just me, it but the fact that in whatever region we choose to attack, they couldn't get good entrenchment.
Speaker: no And I mean, that' that's the good thing with spice, but also when you play a minor country, and you have the time to kind of manage your spice, which becomes harder when you play the Soviets. Yeah, that's a thing I've thought about The airplane screen and the and the spy screen are fairly similar. They are. so it's quite easy to jump between them.
Speaker: Yeah. Whilst if you try to jump to infantry and then up to spies and then back to infantry, you're actually bordering to where you have a spy or not. it's That's annoying. It's really annoying.
Speaker: But then again, it's the way the game is designed. But I i would like to would like to end on the note that
Speaker: This was well played. I hope that it can encourage more people in our community and in other communities to try Poland. To see that plan...
Speaker: if you have it, well executed, can give a lot of game impact without having that many units. Yeah. Which I think is a hilarious and great thing. And also, I know we've been talking a lot about Hearts of Iron. No, we're not becoming a Hearts of Iron podcast.
Speaker: Nope. ah Unless Paradox want to sponsor us and give us this. ah You know where we are. It's just drop an email. You have my email address. yeah They actually do.
Speaker: But... I think we're also going to have some people from the hygge community ah in this podcast and further along. Probably Badger and Boppus.
Speaker: Yeah, hope so. I hope so. If they want to. I mean, I know they're listening. although Obviously they want to. Yeah, they want to. I mean, come on. Who who does who doesn't want to hang out with us, talk about strategy games, having a beer and alcohol?
Speaker: Exactly. But and next time we're probably going to be back to the old lineup. I know you're all missing Magnus. We are missing Magnus too. and But he's not dead.
Speaker: He's alive. He just has a lot to do. but yeah i think the next episode is going to be about diplomacy. Yeah, I think it is. And we know that Magnus is going to be in that one, which is going to be great. He's the one where of us with the most diplomatic experience in real life.
Speaker: Yeah, he has a lot of diplomatic experience in real life and also in games. Diplomacy game. and Not my thing. But before we end, I just want to say go and check out Hygie Gaming on YouTube because it's a great channel. and give Give them some love. and What's the guides? It will make you become a greaterder greater player at Horsham Iron.
Speaker: And finally, from my part, before you wrap this up, Andreas, really well played. Really great play. Thank you, and really well coached.
Speaker: And yeah, we will get back to Hots of Iron, and we'll get back with other games. And but if you like this format where we play a game, talk about it, both ahead of playing it or after playing it, or maybe even while we're playing it,
Speaker: Please drop a comment. Thank you all for listening and have a great, well, whatever time of the day it is. Thank you. Take care, guys.
