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Icemen
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Wop and Dj are back to break down the Iceman album. Dj breaks down the changes he sees in the production of this album in comparison to previous projects. STFU Janice and all the hype around that album. We talk about the Drake stans and how they rank amongst other stans. If Drake got beef with you is your queen in jeopardy? Does Charleston White have a shot with ya queen? We touch on the Jayz freestyle and Dj old head card might get revoked. Diddy leaked footage. And an easily attainable girl. Dj has a message for all the Fathers out there co-parenting with women. Pay close attention. Wop calls Drake the goat one too many times for Dj's liking and he finally has to call it out and we break down his bodies of work and the big 3/big 5 comparisons. We close out the pod with NBA finals talk.
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Drake's Album and Personal Themes
00:00:00
TWIYpod
That's the shit that be pissing me off. And shit will be going through. The Drake album was going good. The whole album. I'm listening to the Iceman joint. Well, first off, because I said it on the other pod, so I got to say here because it's been a while.
00:00:15
TWIYpod
I talked a lot of shit that I got to walk back about the Drake album.
00:00:23
Wop
Don't sound like nothing new over here.
00:00:26
TWIYpod
Yeah, I don't normally have to walk back takes because my takes be usually be spot on.
00:00:31
Wop
You just normally don't like the welcome back. so
00:00:35
TWIYpod
That part. That part. But I'm watching the joint the night before the joint's release. And it's like the video. So all that little ice block bullshit made a whole lot more sense when you get to see the visuals that he's releasing before the album.
00:00:52
TWIYpod
Cool. No problem. I'm like, oh, okay. That shit made sense. I look like a hater for no reason. I bumped the Iceman shit. And it's a good album. It's a very good album.
00:01:07
TWIYpod
It's got some flow.
00:01:07
Wop
Oh,
00:01:12
Wop
yeah. Yeah. It's a very good album. And ain't gonna lie. Probably his best album in a while, too.
00:01:21
TWIYpod
In a while, yeah. In a while, yeah.
00:01:23
Wop
In a while.
00:01:24
TWIYpod
I'll say since nothing was the same.
00:01:28
Wop
That was, what, 2015? It's been a while. And that's his GOAT album. Really, that's probably like his best album.
00:01:37
TWIYpod
Now, I will say, what's the joint? um More life
00:01:43
Wop
The more life was solid, but this is it.
00:01:45
TWIYpod
more Life. was More Life was exactly what he did with Iceman, Made of Honor, and Hubby T. He just did all that on one album on More Life.
00:01:58
TWIYpod
So instead of splitting up those three different vibes and putting them on three different projects, he did it all on one with more life. And that's why some people like it. Some people love it. Some people hate it because they feel like it's all over the place because it kind of is. He's hitting different regions, different types of people. And that's what he's been doing his last couple albums. But it's been more missed and hit.
00:02:28
Wop
facts.
00:02:29
TWIYpod
put a 20 joint out, put a 20 joint album out. You might like five of them. I might like five of them. We might not like the same five records because he's speaking to different demos with throughout the whole album. So this time he said, fuck it, I'm putting out three different joints.
00:02:45
TWIYpod
Iceman is good. um He's switching up his style a little bit. So he's got less features, of course, because he don't have no friends. Right.
00:02:55
Wop
That's what the whole purpose of the Iceman is about. And I love it. the the The Michael Jackson glove for the cover. like That's goat shit, man.
00:03:09
TWIYpod
Here we go. so what
00:03:10
Wop
if god should It's shit. It's goat shit. No matter what motherfuckers say, it's goat creativity is what I'm saying.
00:03:18
TWIYpod
Okay.
00:03:18
Wop
Right?
00:03:19
TWIYpod
Okay. I'll let you have that. I'll let you have that.
00:03:22
Wop
That's goat creativity. he it With the okay sign on it. With the
00:03:27
TWIYpod
Okay.
00:03:30
TWIYpod
okay
00:03:31
Wop
The go level shit, man. Go creativity.
00:03:34
TWIYpod
i do think he's i do think he's very creative i think he's out of his little slump i think the time off did him justice less features he's doing a little bit more different things with his voice and what i told people when i was listening to it his ad libs don't normally be like that You go back and listen to his old joints, and this isn't nitpicky. This is just, like, engineer me breaking down the whole joint. I'm like, Drake used to not do ad-libs like this. he and the He in the background whispering ad-libs throughout the whole joint. He got the little auto-tune effect.
00:04:14
TWIYpod
He got the shit.
00:04:18
TWIYpod
be be Baby, baby. Call my phone. Say you need me, baby. I fucking... did not understand everybody running to Janice. Shut the fuck up.
00:04:35
Wop
You found out, right? You found out, right?
00:04:38
TWIYpod
it It grew on me. That one line at the end of the song fucks up the whole song for me, and I just have to not let that bother me anymore.
00:04:47
Wop
What one line? What
00:04:50
TWIYpod
he'd be like, for
00:04:54
TWIYpod
Yeah.
00:04:57
Wop
line?
00:04:57
TWIYpod
That was unnecessary, bro. That was unnecessary.
00:05:00
Wop
These hoes know how pop it for real,
00:05:07
TWIYpod
But he just ain't have to put the auto-tune on it. He could have just said, these hoes know how these holes no I pop it for real. For real.
00:05:16
Wop
about?
00:05:16
TWIYpod
Like, he could have just did it regular. But when he put the effect on it, ah was just like, yo, I'm a little annoyed at this nigga.
00:05:23
Wop
But you know where the song came from, right?
00:05:26
TWIYpod
Now, where the song comes from?
00:05:27
Wop
It's a diss to Joe Budden.
00:05:31
TWIYpod
Oh, because he said he was Janice. That was his his his Karen name.
00:05:35
Wop
is Yeah.
00:05:37
TWIYpod
Yeah, yeah. He shot at niggas throughout the whole joint. I love that.
00:05:42
Wop
Clapped.
00:05:43
TWIYpod
I love that. It's niggas getting shot on that bitch.
00:05:49
TWIYpod
It's niggas getting shot on that bitch.
00:05:52
Wop
He them bitches. He was throwing them bitches real.
00:05:58
TWIYpod
It was a good joint. It was a good joint. Too hard for the radio. Too hard for the motherfucking radio.
00:06:06
Wop
It got one for the radio for sure, the shebang.
00:06:09
TWIYpod
Oh, shebang.
00:06:09
Wop
Shebang for the radio. That's for the radio.
00:06:11
TWIYpod
Manisha on the beat, shebang.
00:06:13
Wop
that That's the summer jam right there.
00:06:13
TWIYpod
Mama.
00:06:16
Wop
Oh, God.
00:06:20
TWIYpod
Nigga said, yo, I need Amigo for ad-libs only.
00:06:24
Wop
And that's it. Mama!
00:06:25
TWIYpod
Don't even overdo the ad-libs. Matter of fact, do what you want to do, and I'm going tell the producer to cut the shit out.
00:06:32
TWIYpod
Mama.
00:06:32
Wop
Mama!
00:06:35
TWIYpod
This nigga did like five ad-libs. Pussy. He did like five ad-libs on the whole joint, and that made the song. I was like, oh, shit. Good little joint. um Maid of Honor.
00:06:49
TWIYpod
Maid of Honor is good. I need to be at a day party. for that one that's the joint for the host that's the joint with the sexy red features that's that's the joint for the host i need to hear that outside pool party day party because i'm old so i'm not going out at night like that no more pool party day party shiz piece habiti is i but i need some caribbeans around
00:06:59
Wop
I'm ready to That's right. That's right.
00:07:25
Wop
I wasn't really fucking with Habidi. It's cool. it It's just, it ain't growing me yet. it's it's i know I know what it's going to take. It's going to take for me to, I'm too much into the Iceman right now.
00:07:40
Wop
So it's going to take for me to, because that's clearly the best out of the three. But it's just going to take a little time. It's some slaps on that bitch, though. heard some shit I like, though. It's definitely more of a You and Your Lady vibe type deal. It's definitely one of them. It's the Drake special. We know what it is, but the Iceman is so personal.
00:08:03
Wop
but That's what... Man, look.
00:08:08
TWIYpod
Go blow the dust off your plaques, nigga. Go blow the dust off your plaques.
00:08:13
Wop
Man, the the shots were fired throughout that album, man. Just National Treasure. Oh, my God.
00:08:21
TWIYpod
it was ah It was a good joint. My favorite part about the release was my least favorite part about Kendrick's release. When Kendrick dropped, you had everybody making videos, making content, talking in spaces on chat house.
00:08:42
TWIYpod
breaking down, oh, and this means this, and this is what this means, and and because of slavery, and if you go look at Deuteronomy and Israelism, and, bro, I didn't want those overly intellectual breakdowns, but that has been my favorite part about the Drake shit because Drake fans
00:09:06
TWIYpod
are fucking unhinged.
00:09:08
Wop
What? You better know it.
00:09:11
TWIYpod
It's a different level of fandom with them niggas. Like, I thought, I thought Nicki Minaj had the, you know, I thought she had the the fan club shit popping over everybody.
00:09:23
TWIYpod
And I didn't think that nobody was going to top what the Barb's can do. Shout out to the Barb's. This is a Barb-friendly podcast, by the way.
00:09:32
Wop
The B-R-R might be worse.
00:09:35
TWIYpod
Nah, it's kind of quiet for them. And those are classy women.
00:09:39
Wop
Yeah, but they don't. wish The thing about it is like it ain't a lot they didn a lot of people coming for the queen like at all for real. Ain't too many people coming for her. So they don't have to be as aggressive. But the Barb's, yeah, they don't play about her.
00:09:52
TWIYpod
Yeah, with the Beehive, it's like, if you if you're not a fan of Beyonce, bitch, do you have ears?
Drake's Fanbase and Impact
00:09:58
Wop
Right.
00:09:59
TWIYpod
you Do you even like music?
00:10:02
Wop
She's for us. Like, yeah.
00:10:06
TWIYpod
The Barb shit is crazy.
00:10:06
Wop
I mean.
00:10:08
TWIYpod
The Drake shit is crazy. I was i was in a room and niggas was talking. One day they said, yo why does everybody think Drake is intentionally fucking everybody's baby moms?
00:10:25
TWIYpod
And then like three days later, the same folks was in a room talking about, yeah, Drake, Drake, to get your baby moms because he don't like you and he want to disrespect you. So he won't fuck your baby mom.
00:10:38
TWIYpod
Why is that important?
00:10:42
TWIYpod
Why is that important? Why are we why are we pistol watching? I'm okay to let a nigga pocket watch.
00:10:50
TWIYpod
You want to tell me who got money, who got dough, who got dough, he got dough, you got dough, everybody got dough.
00:10:51
Wop
If I call up...
00:10:58
TWIYpod
You want to tell me about who get money, who not get money? Cool. You want talk sales? I'm good with that. Don't start pistol watching, niggas.
00:11:08
Wop
That nigga Dre say, if I call up your girl right now, she picking up. Fuck it.
00:11:18
Wop
Hey, man.
00:11:19
TWIYpod
Bury it alive.
00:11:20
Wop
Listen.
00:11:20
TWIYpod
Come dig me up.
00:11:24
Wop
And these are facts. You know who, girl, you have to be for Drake not to be able to call your girl she pick up. You know like who, bitch, you have to be like a ah Chris Brown or some shit, like a real heavy stepper gang for your girl not to pick up for Drake.
00:11:43
Wop
Like, super heavy stepper, bro.
00:11:49
Wop
This is Drake, bro. bo Bro, like, Nine out of ten women are picking up. And even and even the tenth even the the one that don't want to pick up, going text them?
00:12:00
TWIYpod
so
00:12:07
Wop
Oh, man, come on, man.
00:12:08
TWIYpod
Can't talk right now. Can't talk right now.
00:12:10
TWIYpod
You okay?
00:12:10
Wop
Come on, girl.
00:12:13
Wop
Yo, girl, I'll be sitting right next to you and answer Drake call, bro.
00:12:13
TWIYpod
yeah but
00:12:16
TWIYpod
Shouldn't you be mad if Drake called your girl?
00:12:16
Wop
I promise you.
00:12:21
TWIYpod
Because I seen Drake, I seen some of Drake's work and they don't look like the best joints.
00:12:29
Wop
I mean, Drake liked the BBWs, we know that.
00:12:32
TWIYpod
So if Drake hitting your girl, your girl ugly?
00:12:35
Wop
No. Hell no.
00:12:39
TWIYpod
Medium ugly.
00:12:40
Wop
No.
00:12:43
Wop
No. I would say,
00:12:46
TWIYpod
You see his baby mama?
00:12:52
Wop
I would say, i would say
00:12:58
TWIYpod
Medium ugly. That's what you would say?
00:13:00
Wop
I would say no. I would say i would i would say i would say if Drake wants your girl G, more than likely,
00:13:01
TWIYpod
Average.
00:13:09
Wop
she thick. like She probably thick. That's for sure. He'd like the thick women. so i know You don't got to be medium ugly to be. He just like them real thick too from what I be seeing.
00:13:25
TWIYpod
You know, Drake, if you listen to the pod, Drake, and you got beef with me or WAP, don't beat our queens, all right?
00:13:34
Wop
and be martin
00:13:35
TWIYpod
call Call me. Call my phone, bro. Beat me. Beat, beat, you know, beat me. Whatever you got to do, we can work it out. We can squabble. We can go somewhere and fight or something. Don't call my queen, Drake.
00:13:49
Wop
T.B., baby. Hey, look.
00:13:53
TWIYpod
Blow on me like some green tea, baby.
00:13:53
Wop
Drake.
00:13:57
Wop
um wouldn't I I'd come dead on the pod and say, yeah, Drake took my bitch. I wouldn't care, guy.
00:14:03
Wop
I swear to God, I wouldn't care.
00:14:04
TWIYpod
going to edit that out the pot.
00:14:06
Wop
I promise you.
00:14:07
TWIYpod
um um'm at I'm required to edit that out the pot. I'm not letting you go out like that.
00:14:10
Wop
why to let that yeah Let that slide. that slide.
00:14:14
TWIYpod
I'm not letting you go.
00:14:14
Wop
That's going to bring us some some attention. They're going to know who WAP is now. Damn, Drake want to WAP, bitch? Yeah. I ain't dropped a bar against the nigga. My bitch means something.
00:14:26
TWIYpod
but you gonna go back.
00:14:29
Wop
Yeah, you got to stop. Hey, man, it's 2026, man. Listen, you can close the door on the bitch. Just don't lock it.
00:14:38
Wop
you can always close the door on her. Just, you know, let the door, let her know that, you know, come back when you, you know, you got your shit together. But right now, you know, you want the dream.
00:14:50
Wop
You want the deal with
00:14:50
TWIYpod
WAP wa told Shorty to come back when she ready to make amends.
00:14:54
Wop
her. Hold
00:14:57
TWIYpod
Nah, that's what I'm saying. Like, don't, Joe Drake, don't hit my queen. Because I'm going back, but I'm going to have erase your discography.
00:15:06
Wop
on.
00:15:07
TWIYpod
What I'm going to do without, if you read this, it's too late.
00:15:07
Wop
Drake.
00:15:10
TWIYpod
What I'm going do without that in my life?
00:15:14
Wop
Man, I'm going to still listen to that nigga music. Drake hit my bitch. He hit my bitch. He phone up.
00:15:22
TWIYpod
Nah, that nigga Canadian.
00:15:27
TWIYpod
only the only canadian The only Canadian I'm letting beat down my queen is Alex Trebek.
00:15:33
Wop
He's dead, nigga.
00:15:35
TWIYpod
All right. If he come back to life, if he come back to life, he can have
00:15:36
Wop
Oh, crap.
00:15:39
Wop
oh cra
00:15:40
TWIYpod
Nigga ran Jeopardy for my whole life. If he come back to life, he can have
00:15:45
Wop
Man, listen, i said I ain't saying I'm serving her up.
00:15:46
TWIYpod
Serve him up.
00:15:48
Wop
I'm just saying, like, what can you do, gang? What can you do? Like, shit. it but A nigga less than Drake can potentially beat your bitch. what like Like, what can you do then?
00:16:03
Wop
Like, this Drake, I'ma just chalk it up, gang. Like, at the end the day, I'ma be solid, especially if I had some real feelings towards him. Be solid. I ain't gonna cap on that part, but like,
00:16:15
Wop
Overall, I'm not going to hate myself. I just can't. ill be more It's more of a reaction or more of a hurt with your bitch go get a regular nigga, a nigga just like you.
00:16:27
Wop
It's like, damn, bitch, this nigga. The fuck you dating laterally, bitch?
00:16:34
TWIYpod
You got another nigga with a pod?
00:16:36
Wop
Like, what the fuck? No bullshit. So... Fuck that. I would say, bro, like, yeah, that's that's just more of a ah a solid L.
00:16:48
Wop
Like, that's Drake, shit. You can't compete with that shit for real, for real.
00:16:52
TWIYpod
So SoundCloud rapper, SoundCloud rapper beats your queen.
00:16:53
Wop
Hell
00:16:56
TWIYpod
It's over.
00:16:57
Wop
yeah. A bitch let a local rapper come smash.
00:16:58
TWIYpod
But if it's...
00:17:02
Wop
Man, you chasing it.
00:17:07
TWIYpod
It's the 1942. sometimes Sometimes you got to know. Yo, you got know your queen, right? You got to know your queen. If your queen don't handle her liquor and after a drink two, she get hungry for dick, you got to know your girl. She can't go out. If it's 11 and she's been out since 930, you got to go get your queen.
00:17:29
Wop
if she if she If she get like that, I probably... I ain't going bat to you. I probably can't be with no bitch that get that loose. was she the The only way she can do that if she just don't go out unless she with me.
00:17:44
Wop
like If she like to go out and I know she a loose drinker, like, hell no. I'll probably i'll probably be done with her quick. Because I already know what come with the that.
00:17:54
TWIYpod
I said, you...
00:17:55
Wop
bi That bitch be somewhere at the bar, drunk, Nigga rubbing on the sheet.
00:18:00
TWIYpod
Happy.
00:18:02
Wop
It just happened, bitch. All right. Okay. All right.
00:18:09
TWIYpod
Yo, but sometimes it just happened, though.
00:18:10
Wop
Mm-hmm. i
00:18:12
TWIYpod
Sometimes it just happened. Sometimes you ain't even... You wasn't even starting the joint.
00:18:18
Wop
e
00:18:18
TWIYpod
You wasn't starting at all. You was just minding your black-ass business. You bought the little table a lemon shot because they was nice. You bought the table, at the whole table. You bought the whole table lemon shots.
00:18:30
TWIYpod
You and your man's just having a pitcher of beer. Y'all was watching the Knicks in the finals. Boom. You get some hot wings. You eating your hot wings. Shorty gave you some rhythm. You didn't even know she was giving you rhythm. You so in the game.
00:18:45
TWIYpod
and fucking eating your wings, you don't even know Shorty giving you rhythm. Next thing you know, she hitting you with the hungry, hungry hippo mouth in the front seat of your car. And you grabbing the motherfucking shit that niggas hang their clothes on. You just holding on for dear life.
00:19:01
TWIYpod
Sometimes it happens. And sometimes your queen's on the other end of that occasion.
00:19:07
Wop
Yeah. That shit, I ain't gonna bop to. That shit not happening. Not for real.
00:19:15
TWIYpod
ha
00:19:15
Wop
very Not for real. okay Hell nah. The scenario where your queen, nigga, what's that little show? think it's called It ain't Cheetahs. It's like a hood version of Cheetahs.
00:19:31
Wop
But they basically be setting these niggas up. Lil Flip was on that bitch one day.
00:19:35
TWIYpod
Oh, the loyalty test joint.
00:19:36
Wop
Yeah, the loyalty test shit. Man, all my life, is these bitches be chasing it so hard. Little flip. oh Not to say ain't got no money, but gang, he's not like what you call an active nigga no more.
00:19:51
Wop
You know what I'm saying? like it Either way, though, he's still more than the average nigga to a bitch. Nigga with some money. Nigga with some status.
00:20:03
Wop
man, your bitch, ah see that nigga and go. Your bitch might go for Charleston White gang. I'm not going back to you. yeah said He got enough clout that your bitch might fake go for Charleston White. I promise you.
00:20:16
TWIYpod
I'll burn house down. I'll burn the house down. If my queen go for Charleston White, I'm going to burn the house down. I'm going to go i'm going to jail.
00:20:28
Wop
Yeah, yeah, nigga.
00:20:34
TWIYpod
you know he telling. You know he telling. After after I beat Shorty up and come threaten him, I know he telling.
00:20:41
Wop
ain't no threatening him if she for one i'm i'm i'm already through once you tell me charleston white crack then for two that's not no nigga you go get into a with over the internet you just from the you're finna be over with he's finna overdo your ass over the internet that's his that's his fighting ground you're done
00:20:58
TWIYpod
That's a slumber. In
00:21:00
Wop
Yeah, done. I promise you. that Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Whole ass nigga. That's why I fucked your...
00:21:06
TWIYpod
the
00:21:08
Wop
Yeah, that pussy was good, nigga. Sure was. I beat it down. He gon' troll the hell out your ass.
00:21:15
TWIYpod
And I put my finger on the butt. Fuck, nigga.
00:21:17
Wop
Yeah. What you gon' do about it, bitch ass nigga? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's why I maced your whole ass nigga. You are done.
00:21:26
TWIYpod
Yeah, don't fuck with nobody that keep bear mace on them and they never been in the woods. Don't fuck with nobody like that. But it look, shit like that do happen. It do just happen sometimes. Sometimes you just be somewhere and then you end up kissing a stranger in the mouth with the lights on.
00:21:44
TWIYpod
Next thing you know, you in an entanglement. That's how Jada got her shit off. August Alsina was depressed. She healed that young man with the cooch.
00:21:57
Wop
Her bitch was chasing it. She's been chasing it ever since we known her. Known of her. It's just done came to the light how much she chasing.
00:22:09
TWIYpod
Yeah, she be chasing like a motherfucker.
00:22:11
Wop
Tata asked me what she was doing. yes You gone. But that's why don't nobody like it's hard to even respect will like After that shit, gang, you let this bitch move this young nigga in.
00:22:26
Wop
Talking about under the premise, the that's y'all son's friend. i don't get no fuck.
00:22:34
Wop
That nigga is a young man.
00:22:38
TWIYpod
But we'll Will Smith got a kind heart.
00:22:38
Wop
right,
00:22:43
Wop
i see what that shit got me. see See what he got.
00:22:49
TWIYpod
will Will Smith still battling the ghost of Tupac? i don't i got I got questions about that young man. He's still battling Tupac ghost.
00:22:58
Wop
They brought that man to the kitchen table to tell him that she been fucking another nigga in her crib, in his crib, his estate.
Will Smith and Hip-Hop Rivalries
00:23:11
Wop
How did you feel about it?
00:23:11
TWIYpod
And he cried. And he cried. but And then she disrespect him every chance she get. Every time they put a camera in her face, a microphone in her face. She say everything but, yo, fuck Will.
00:23:25
TWIYpod
Like, that's the only thing she don't say.
00:23:26
Wop
That's only thing she missing.
00:23:27
TWIYpod
Don't get that crazy.
00:23:29
Wop
The only thing she missing.
00:23:33
TWIYpod
Tupac birthday coming up. Expect to see her talking about Tupac. oh Oh, wait, this is shit she'd be on.
00:23:41
TWIYpod
Oh, I was in my closet and I found a poem that Tupac wrote to me.
00:23:54
TWIYpod
You know, you guys knew him as Pac.
00:24:03
TWIYpod
You knew the same nigga we knew.
00:24:06
Wop
Fuck.
00:24:07
TWIYpod
You knew the nigga that made California love. to live and die in LA. That's the same nigga we all knew. You knew him, we knew him. Cause y'all went to perform at art school together in Baltimore.
00:24:22
Wop
That's all it took. That's all it, you know, she she been locked in with dudes since forever. And like, do you know what type of nigga you gotta be to be like with a bitch? That's like
00:24:36
Wop
What are my pet peeves? I would never date a woman. like And this is going to sound fucked up if she tell me the love of her life or a baby daddy dad and they was in a relationship or anything. Because you fighting that, you going to be chasing dual ghosts.
00:24:50
Wop
She was still in love with the men when they died. Ain't nothing you going to be able to do to really... You can lie to yourself all you want. She, goddammit, a movie come on, she going to be in that bitch. This was...
00:25:05
Wop
This was me and James.
00:25:09
Wop
you know Like gang, hell no. I'm i'm not on that.
00:25:12
TWIYpod
Call me a ghost hunter, cause I want her.
00:25:15
Wop
I'm decent.
00:25:22
Wop
oh d c
00:25:24
TWIYpod
I'm going to the grave site with you, shorty. We gonna put some flowers down for your baby daddy.
00:25:32
TWIYpod
We gonna pour some honey
00:25:40
TWIYpod
Yo, James, I'm going to be crying. want that chick for me crying. i I'm going to
00:25:49
Wop
you know Hit her with the Florida Evans.
00:25:52
TWIYpod
be crying. Oh, James. James.
00:25:58
TWIYpod
James. I'm going crazy. We're shorty. We're finna turn up at this bitch. And I'm going to say some corny shit. Like, every time we get into a argument, you know James can see you, right?
00:26:10
TWIYpod
You know James can see how you acting right now? James would be ashamed if he seen how you was acting right now. Like, I'm going to just get in argument and just be like, yo, on James, that was not me. I didn't do it. Instead of saying on my mama, on James, that's not me.
00:26:27
TWIYpod
I'm putting everything on James. James ain't. James wouldn't want me to be acting like this with you. So don't act like that with me. We need to be civil.
00:26:41
TWIYpod
Oh, and yeah i know y'all seen I know y'all see the shirt. I know you see that. I had to pull it out the ah archives. You know what saying? Rockefeller's the comedy.
00:26:53
TWIYpod
Rockefeller. Six figure. That's right. Hovengers, stand up. All y'all Ho fans, I need y'all front and center.
00:27:05
TWIYpod
Front and center for this here. All you Hovengers.
00:27:10
TWIYpod
Hove did the Roots picnic, showed up the day before, did a little surprise concert. That was peace. No footage really came out of that.
00:27:23
TWIYpod
They just showed a picture of him with a hoodie on, and everybody was like, oh, my gosh, he cut his hair. oh my gosh, he cut the dreads. He's getting ready for album mode again. Oh, my gosh, we're getting a Hove album.
00:27:39
TWIYpod
Roots picnic came and they go home. Got on stage, drop the freestyle with the fucking with the lady of rage afro out.
00:27:54
TWIYpod
Lackluster. Oh, hang it up. I hate to sound like the young folks because the young folks is really like
00:28:10
TWIYpod
a
00:28:14
TWIYpod
lackluster
00:28:17
TWIYpod
oh hanging up i hate to sound like the young folks cause the young folks is really like Especially since he shot at Drake. The young folks is really like, Hov's not even relevant.
00:28:30
TWIYpod
Hov's never been the artist that Drake has been. Let's not get crazy.
00:28:38
TWIYpod
It's still Hov. I don't like the way you're looking. You're looking like you're about to get crazy.
00:28:45
Wop
don't know what y'all talking about. That nigga just clapped. another I like to see this clapping shit. They clapping shit. Just clap to these niggas.
00:28:57
TWIYpod
Too many niggas.
00:28:57
Wop
Clap to them.
00:28:58
TWIYpod
Too many. Shoot a dame. Shoot a dame. Shoot at Osteeno.
00:29:03
Wop
Yeah.
00:29:04
TWIYpod
Shoot at Busby.
00:29:04
Wop
Shoot at everybody that got their name. You know what I'm saying? You got my name your mouth. shooting What you mean?
00:29:12
TWIYpod
Why shoot drink?
00:29:12
Wop
ni This nigga Oshkino, every interview is talking about Jay-Z.
00:29:17
TWIYpod
Stuttering, too.
00:29:18
Wop
I don't ring like a motherfucker.
00:29:21
TWIYpod
Niggas sound like me after I had a stroke.
00:29:21
Wop
Like a motherfucker.
00:29:23
TWIYpod
Niggas sound like me after I had a stroke.
00:29:26
Wop
Hey, God damn me. ah Nicki Minaj studied tweeting.
00:29:33
TWIYpod
Rock Nation.
00:29:36
Wop
Tory Lanez daddy was real life. Screaming. Then they got Tory on the league voicemail. Basically confessing.
00:29:50
Wop
The nigga was basically confessing.
00:29:50
TWIYpod
and this And somehow it's Rock Nation's fault.
00:29:54
Wop
Man, come on, man.
00:29:56
TWIYpod
I get it. i didn't I didn't care for the shot at Drake. I thought it was weak. i thought I thought the shots... Well, hold on. Let me preface this. watched the GQ interview.
00:30:08
TWIYpod
He did a GQ interview three weeks ago with a young bull, and they asked him about the Kendrick and Drake shit, and he said, man, we're so much better than rap battles.
00:30:23
Wop
you
00:30:23
TWIYpod
We should remove rap battles. the There's no place in hip-hop for rap battles. And I'm thinking... That's a 50-something-year-old rapper telling us that we shouldn't have rap battles. The nigga that told Nas, I fucked your baby mama and left condoms in the baby seat.
00:30:47
TWIYpod
That same nigga is telling us That Kendrick went too far with the PDF file shit um and then there's no place in hip hop for rap battles because it doesn't go to a good place and it's not good and it hurts. It tarnishes hip hop.
00:31:04
TWIYpod
I thought that was bullshit.
00:31:08
TWIYpod
And I said, this is exactly why Hov don't do press. Because he sit down with a camera in front of him, and they throw some slow ball pitches towards him, and he think he hitting home runs.
00:31:20
TWIYpod
And this nigga ain't even making line drives.
00:31:24
Wop
it Is he entirely wrong though?
00:31:29
Wop
No. Because a lot of these rap battles have led to blood shit.
00:31:41
Wop
lot of them. Most of them today do.
00:31:45
TWIYpod
Just in Chicago, nigga. Yeah.
00:31:47
Wop
Man, fuck out of here. I'm just trying to put that on Chicago, niggas, man. That shit is in Atlanta. That shit is happening everywhere, gang. nigger that nigger me What's his name? Just got shot in the ass. I was saying.
00:32:01
Wop
By Lil' TJ. The shit is is is going on everywhere. like Now, granted, they shit wasn't necessarily a rap bat ah wrap beef or whatever, but what I'm still saying is ultimately, once that shit get on wax, once you start dissing, motherfuckers,
00:32:18
Wop
Luckily with the Kendrick, and even with that shit, it was still some little scufflings, some shit that Ross and them got out on and counted the fuck with Drake and them. Like, it's some shit going on, gang.
00:32:33
Wop
the shit The shit ain't necessarily good for business. I ain't saying... He didn't later there on three weeks later just kind of like me become a hypocrite basically. But I don't think that's a rap battle if you're just taking shots and niggas. The rap battle is when you're constantly making songs like the Kendrick and Drake shit. They making songs specifically to diss each other.
00:32:55
Wop
That's a rap battle.
00:32:57
TWIYpod
I think it's difficult to have such a competitive field like sports or rap music where it's so competitive and it's so, you know, machismo. It's so fucking masculine.
00:33:11
TWIYpod
I think it's weird to set an expectation that, you know, we're going to be really competitive. And everything's going to be about numbers and everything's going to be about what you sold the first week, what you sold overall.
00:33:25
TWIYpod
But let's not make it competitive to the point where you saying you better than another person. Hypothetically, you can say you the best rapper and these other niggas ain't fucking with you.
00:33:36
TWIYpod
But as soon as you that shit starts making it sound like you shooting at another person too directly. Now, that's where we got to draw the line. Like coming from Hove, especially this shit pissed me off because that's 98% career.
00:33:52
TWIYpod
I'm about a dollar. What the fuck is 50 cent? Like his whole career is machismo, bravado, big ego, big everything and shitting on you other rappers.
00:33:57
Wop
Feet. Feet.
00:34:00
Wop
feed
00:34:05
TWIYpod
You other rappers ain't me. I don't do interviews in your magazine because y'all going to ask the advertisers to pay you more money because you're interviewing me and you're not giving me a cut of that advertising money and I deserve it because I'm the best.
00:34:20
TWIYpod
Like that was that's hope. So for somebody to build their brand on, I'm better than the rest of you niggas, what's the difference between the 4.0 and the 4.6?
00:34:34
Wop
But that's still...
00:34:34
TWIYpod
Do them shit Steven got levels?
00:34:37
Wop
But the thing about it, though, that's still rapping at its core, talking your shit. That's essentially... That's not a problem to me, niggas being... That's always been ho.
00:34:48
Wop
You know what I'm saying? And in in at the same time, that's always like been his his thing, growth in the rap game. The blueprint. The blueprint.
00:35:01
Wop
he That's been his mission, to show niggas how to do this. And to be fair, you you want to if you hove or any rapper, why not want to be like hove? I'm just saying, my gang, at the end of the day, you you can't do the the the rap game is a young man's game. You can't forever be active in that game, constantly dropping albums, trying to stay relevant.
00:35:30
Wop
eventually you have to broaden your horizons. And Hov has shown us that time and time and time again, like, and then, we you know, he done had this, obviously, some scandals, there's sam orange scan the scandal on elevator, which they flipped into the what?
00:35:51
Wop
The Lemonade album, right?
00:35:53
TWIYpod
And 444. And that bullshit Solange put out with Cranes in the Sky. It was a good album. I just don't know the name of
00:36:02
Wop
Everything, everything motherfuckers, how many motherfuckers can turn them type of scandals into profitable situations? Hope.
00:36:10
TWIYpod
it just It just goes against everything that he said because, well, what he said went against everything that he has told us for all these years.
00:36:21
TWIYpod
And then for him to be right back on his bullshit three weeks later, damn, ho. And for it to be a lackluster freestyle, damn, ho.
00:36:32
Wop
That bitch was not lackluster. He dropped a couple of more he dropped a couple wire references in that bitch, which we can appreciate, nigga.
00:36:39
TWIYpod
My name is my name.
00:36:40
Wop
We love it.
Media Controversies and Authenticity in Podcasting
00:36:41
Wop
We love the wire.
00:36:44
TWIYpod
We do.
00:36:44
Wop
You niggas want it one way, but it's the other way. Fuck.
00:36:50
Wop
Treating these niggas.
00:36:51
TWIYpod
It wasn't a great freestyle.
00:36:52
Wop
He told them niggas there's no more he eat no more brunches, nigga. No more meetings.
00:36:58
TWIYpod
That hurts.
00:36:59
Wop
Fuck.
00:36:59
TWIYpod
That hurts. That hurts, too. But i yeah I get why it's no more brunches, because you was having brunches standing next to these niggas, and they having sex parties, rubbing lube on their nipples, and rubbing their boochey.
00:37:13
TWIYpod
Diddy. We talking about you, Diddy. Sean Combs.
00:37:18
Wop
The diddler.
00:37:19
TWIYpod
That was nasty work. I thought we was done with Duke. And I don't even want to get into it because like I said earlier, we not pistol watching on the podcast. We not pistol watching on this pod.
00:37:31
TWIYpod
Whatever. Diddy got whatever he got. The nigga got money. ah my My main laughing point about all of this, the video came out where Diddy and Daphne Joy and some young nigga was in a room and no the sex tape came out or whatever.
00:37:55
TWIYpod
As good of a producer musically Sean Combs is he's a terrible porn producer.
00:38:05
TWIYpod
Terrible at producing porn. Yo, Sean, I don't need you every three minutes asking them to aggressively rub baby oil on them. They just getting to work, Sean. let him Let the man do his job.
00:38:20
TWIYpod
why And why so much baby oil? I watched the 45-minute video. Why was it so much baby oil?
00:38:27
Wop
You got too much time on your hands, man.
00:38:28
TWIYpod
Poor
00:38:30
TWIYpod
ah I did it for content, bro. I did it for the content. I did it for the pod. What?
00:38:40
Wop
I get about 45 seconds of hits of this shit to see this nigga Diddy in the corner, man. I'm cool.
00:38:46
TWIYpod
Yeah. ye
00:38:48
Wop
This nigga, Diddy oh man, a sexual deviant, man. Like, what the fuck?
00:38:56
TWIYpod
That young man is exactly where he needs to be right now. All right.
00:39:00
Wop
Man. Nah, gang, because I ain't going bat to you. don't think you're supposed to be locked up for being no freak, G. He's a freaky ass nigga.
00:39:08
TWIYpod
Nah, lock the freaks up.
00:39:09
Wop
Hell nah.
00:39:10
TWIYpod
Lock the freaks up. Hey, you foot niggas, you foot fetish gentlemen.
00:39:11
Wop
Hell nah, gang.
00:39:18
TWIYpod
I pray they evacuate Australia. They get all the people, the nice, decent people out of Australia, and they start sending you felons back to Australia like they used to do back in the day.
00:39:33
TWIYpod
Send y'all out there with the dangerous ass kangaroos that want to fight. That's where you guys that got the foot fetishes, that's where y'all belong.
00:39:44
TWIYpod
You guys that like peeing on people, that like being peed on, you guys that like that, I'm not talking about squirt, talking about pee. You guys that like to be peed on, y'all need to go to Australia. You like feet, go to Australia.
00:40:00
Wop
Man, look ah no i i just I don't care what you said Expedited, whatever That's weird too, but still There should nobody be locked up for having like Certain sexual kinks gang He ain't breaking no laws guy like no real No real laws That require you to be locked up Maybe a the filming shit that is a i mean That is against the law You can't film nobody without their consent But I think shorty line, because at that point, it's just his word versus us.
00:40:31
TWIYpod
Yeah, she lied.
00:40:31
Wop
She look like she know them cameras there.
00:40:36
TWIYpod
Of course she lied. She didn't want the tape to come out.
00:40:39
Wop
That's all it is. Hell no. Because could you imagine being that being your mama? That little boy finna catch. Hell, 50. If I'm 50, he blew. he blew
00:40:50
TWIYpod
Nah. she all Her child was already catching hell because like I said on this podcast before, that young lady is very attainable. I told y'all I'm going run the clip back one day. I told y'all Diddy got her on a holiday weekend, three-day weekend.
00:41:08
TWIYpod
Got her on a holiday weekend, $10,000. Shorty shouldn't be so attainable.
00:41:15
Wop
So you saying it's 54? He had an easy target baby for a baby mama?
00:41:20
TWIYpod
Yeah. And if I lay down and made a child with you and I know the type of woman you are,
00:41:22
Wop
right
00:41:27
TWIYpod
I know you're going to show your a butthole or OnlyFans for $10. It's my job to make sure that you're never in a position where you need to show your butthole for $10. Yeah,
00:41:38
Wop
Nah, that ain't my job, nigga.
00:41:41
TWIYpod
it is.
00:41:42
Wop
Hell nah. Because that job, that job, nigga... That job don't stop, nigga.
00:41:48
TWIYpod
It don't. You co-parenting. It's my job to keep your butthole off the internet because we share a child that got to live in this world.
00:41:56
Wop
That's not my job. She shouldn't want her butthole on the motherfucking internet.
00:42:00
TWIYpod
ah ah ha ah
00:42:01
Wop
Fuck. Fuck you talking about?
00:42:04
TWIYpod
ah
00:42:04
Wop
She tweaking. She is tweaking.
00:42:07
TWIYpod
For the 10. For a dime.
00:42:10
Wop
for For the Saudi. That bitch went out for a tax refund.
00:42:15
TWIYpod
Woo.
00:42:17
Wop
is
00:42:19
TWIYpod
Woo.
00:42:22
Wop
Was it worth it for the Saudi?
00:42:26
TWIYpod
That's what I'm saying, man. Like, just, hey, fellas, i don't care how mad you get at your BM. You know the type of BM you got. If you got the BM that's just going make it work, she's just going make something shake because she's not getting the support that she needs from you, go help that lady out.
00:42:47
TWIYpod
Go help that lady out before she rubbing baby oil on her titties on the internet and then your kids' friends can go see it for $3.35. Because that's what happened. Daphne Joy...
00:43:01
TWIYpod
she She first came out, when the tape came out, she was just like, yo, can't believe it, what she said. Yo, can't believe it.
00:43:13
TWIYpod
Who authorized
00:43:17
TWIYpod
this?
00:43:20
TWIYpod
Not I. would never authorize the being on film. I'm hurt. I'm deeply hurt that I was still in an intimate moment with a prostitute and a loving partner of Sean Combs.
00:43:37
TWIYpod
I'm deeply hurt that I'm on tape getting cooked by a 15-inch prostitute.
00:43:46
TWIYpod
I'm also so deeply hurt that this came out. This is, what is it, revenge porn. Yeah, it's revenge porn. And also, there's a sale on my OnlyFans, 85% off.
00:44:02
TWIYpod
And since pistol watching is the topic, I'll rate your pistol for $3.35. Holla at you both.
00:44:21
TWIYpod
Shorty's OnlyFans is $3, Wop.
00:44:23
Wop
I'm not, gee, I ain't never subscribed to no bitch OnlyFans. I'm just not doing it. I'm just not, fuck. I just, I, it's just like not to sound obvious than a motherfucker. It's just too much free porn out here. Like, like I'm just, just keep it a buck. Like I ain't, I'm not paying for that shit, gee.
00:44:47
Wop
I'm not your fan, Shorty. I just can't.
00:44:50
TWIYpod
Somebody is running that bag up for her
00:44:53
Wop
But I mean, it add up, though, because it's enough niggas in they mind for like $3 a sub. Oh, that ain't bad. Cool. Because it ain't shit. Don't get me wrong. I just don't. I don't know. I just want.
00:45:07
Wop
I just know it's free shit out here.
00:45:09
TWIYpod
I spent $3.
00:45:09
Wop
And. it
00:45:10
TWIYpod
I spent $3 on Cheez-Its in the vending machine today.
00:45:14
Wop
but I actually get some real satisfaction out of my little cheeses. I'm not be satisfied unless I'm just going to masturbate to that goofy ass shit.
00:45:21
TWIYpod
getatcationcation satisfy You're going to get satisfaction from looking at that young lady's butthole for $3.35.
00:45:34
Wop
He just in that bitch making it count. head bitch
00:45:41
TWIYpod
Satisfaction. You said satisfaction. Now you got me saying the word wrong. Like, I'm fucking dyslexic. Satisfaction.
00:45:49
Wop
Hey, hear that bitch. Because that's what I really wanted to say. that Master the measure, hear that bitch.
00:45:56
TWIYpod
That's what I'm saying. Young Bulls, you know who you laid down and had a baby with. Keep the mother of your children off OnlyFans. I don't care if she's selling feet pictures.
00:46:07
TWIYpod
If she's selling feet pictures, provide her with that income so she don't have to sell feet pictures because y'all got a kid that got live in this world, that got to go to school, and if your baby mama looks easily attainable, you can live that down.
00:46:19
Wop
Okay.
00:46:24
TWIYpod
You can fight. You can joke back, whatever, whatever. You can do a drape and fuck they baby mamas because niggas and your baby mama are OnlyFans. But what's your child going to What's your child going to do when everybody roasted him at the lunch table because they seen his mama naked for $3.35?
00:46:44
Wop
I'm pulling, don't, don't. They pulling that shit up any time. Like you can't even really successfully fry niggas. Cause you you say the wrong shit, mufa get to laughing too hard.
00:46:58
Wop
Oh, you can't even laugh no more. You can't even laugh, mufa catch you laughing instantly. No, you not laughing, Clarence. Your mom's a slut.
00:47:10
Wop
You're done. You're done. Oh, God. you
00:47:13
TWIYpod
Ace to be my bag, Ace to be my bag.
00:47:19
TWIYpod
lot of this. And you say, oh, record scratch.
00:47:32
TWIYpod
I know you're laughing.
00:47:35
Wop
yeah
00:47:37
TWIYpod
Not you.
00:47:41
Wop
ah
00:47:42
TWIYpod
Don't your mama got BBL?
00:47:48
Wop
i I'm talking about I'm talking about gang. It's one thing for your mama to be on a a sex tape, period.
00:48:01
Wop
She getting clapped, cool.
00:48:04
Wop
At least it'll be one thing she getting clapped by her active nigga at the time. Yeah,
00:48:11
TWIYpod
Your father. You know what I'm saying?
00:48:14
Wop
yeah. 50, 50 clapping here, cool. Sex tape out. Me and my mama in our daddy. They was getting busy. and You can't really hurt me too much. It's fucked up because it is what it is. Motherfuckers get to see my mama naked. Asshole naked. Cool. Whatever.
00:48:29
Wop
Shit. Females get to see my daddy. Asshole naked. Whatever. Cool.
00:48:33
TWIYpod
We rich.
00:48:34
Wop
Me rich as fuck.
00:48:35
TWIYpod
Power come back on the sixteenth
00:48:38
Wop
Might see me on that bitch. Fuck. Fuck it tomorrow. You know? But, uh... This ain't one them situations. Father looks bad.
00:48:50
Wop
Niggas trolling me. Daddy, your daddy, the ultimate troll. But it's ah it's a little situation where niggas gonna use against 50, of course. Naturally, he's the biggest troll. It's only right he's going to get trolled back, and which is what he most concerned about, which is why he owned a... ah I'm hearing he's looking to get custody and all type of shit. Like, the shit is embarrassing.
00:49:14
TWIYpod
You don't even like your kid until you find out your baby mama got a sex tape out Now you got to like your kid. Now you got to have a relationship with your kid. Now you got to get custody of your kid.
00:49:25
TWIYpod
You see what you did to us, Sheila. I need you to be responsible with your genitals.
00:49:32
Wop
Not for real.
00:49:33
TWIYpod
Because I don't want custody of Duke. That's what I'm saying. Take care you take care of your co-parents. Because if it was me and I was selling crack to put little Ronald in Jordan's sneakers, she would try and provide a way to where I didn't have to sell crack and risk jail time.
00:49:54
TWIYpod
So I got to find a way where she don't have to sell crack to the other crack.
00:50:03
Wop
Ah, for real.
00:50:05
TWIYpod
I couldn't believe it, though, but I laughed. I laughed my ass off when shorty shit was $3.35. I laughed when they show videos of her doing dick ratings. I laughed. I've been laughing all week. It's been a very, very good week for content.
00:50:20
TWIYpod
um Academics has been doing a great job breaking everything down. The whole shots, the Drake shots. What's next? what's what's What's going on in hip hop? I've been watching Academics a little bit too much.
00:50:38
Wop
I don't care for that, G.
00:50:38
TWIYpod
Well,
00:50:41
Wop
I just don't care for them.
00:50:43
TWIYpod
It takes time. It takes time. If you can, if you can sift through the bullshit and the fandom that he has for Drake and just go with the facts that he can obtain, it's entertaining.
00:50:49
Wop
I can't.
00:50:57
TWIYpod
Unfortunately, you might have to watch this nigga on stream for like six hours.
00:51:02
Wop
That's my problem, G. It's the streaming. It's the... I don't care for the streaming shit anyway too tough. like What I mean by it is just like the the constant engagement with the chat.
00:51:16
Wop
The constant... I just don't care for that shit. ah I don't. iin't saying I don't understand the the whole purpose of it. I get it.
00:51:29
Wop
But I just don't like it. So I don't watch it. But then I also... The little skits and clips and shits I do see from Act... is He's really, to me, just a rage baiter for the most part.
00:51:42
TWIYpod
A little bit.
00:51:43
Wop
and And it's cool. It's part of it. For me, um never like I do this podcast shit, but I ah ah really don't let the podcast define me. like I'm just me.
00:51:57
Wop
like I feel like most of the people, it's just it's no limit. for them. and in And obviously that's part of the gimmick that, you know, I guess it's part of the script to make it to the top, I guess.
00:52:10
Wop
I hope not. Because in my mind, then I'd probably never make it to the top. Because I'm never just going to be chasing it. Just never. I just can't.
00:52:20
TWIYpod
i think I think we all chase the dragon a little bit. In some areas, we chase the dragon just a little bit, but act do it a little bit too much. And that's where you just got to remember that when you're watching some of these folks coverage, who is this person aligned to?
00:52:39
TWIYpod
It's like watching content creators is like watching Fox News. When Fox News say some crazy shit that makes Trump look like the best president ever, we know they bullshit and we know it's Fox News and that's how they give it up.
00:52:53
TWIYpod
When Ack say some crazy shit about Drake, I'd be like, uh, that's Ack. Like, I seen Drake give this nigga Ack a chain and put the chain on him like it was chaining day.
00:53:04
TWIYpod
Like, he was a part of Rockefeller or some shit. The chain had an owl on it and he was like, oh, that's for me? Like, he looked like He looked like I look when my girl paying for something and I'm standing behind her at the register, hugging from her from behind. That's how academics look when Drake gave him the change.
00:53:26
Wop
I mean,
00:53:30
Wop
he a fan of Drake, bro. We we know that. like
00:53:37
Wop
and And it's understandable. To me, there ain't nothing wrong with being a fan of Drake. Drake is a GOAT. He's a GOAT. Meaning, he has iconic he's at ah iconic status. We know that.
00:53:52
TWIYpod
I was about to ask you to put a definition on that because you're getting a little loose with that Drake's a goat business.
00:53:57
Wop
No, I didn't.
00:53:57
TWIYpod
You're getting a little loose with that today.
00:53:59
Wop
No, it's not. I'm not saying he's flat out the GOAT, but he's GOAT.
00:54:07
Wop
He's definitely the GOAT of his era. The 2010s belongs to Drake.
00:54:18
Wop
Oh, niggas is playing crazy. All right, man. All right, man.
00:54:23
TWIYpod
Big five.
00:54:23
Wop
All right, man. All right, man.
00:54:24
TWIYpod
Big five. Big five. I'll give it to the big five. I'll give it to the big five.
00:54:31
TWIYpod
Drake, Cole, Kendrick, Wale, and one of them other niggas that's interchangeable, Big Sean, you know, big five. it's But it's five of them. It's not just Drake.
00:54:44
TWIYpod
Drake has had the most success out of all of them, but he's also had to drop the most out of all of them.
00:54:51
TWIYpod
no but Nobody in that group has had to drop as much as he has because they've all had...
00:54:51
Wop
That's like, okay, okay.
00:54:55
Wop
That's like,
00:54:59
TWIYpod
What did I see wrong?
00:54:59
Wop
what? What? You just said Wale.
00:55:04
TWIYpod
Wale ain't dropped as much as Drake.
00:55:06
Wop
You dropped like far as what? Dropped as far as what? Are you talking about albums, projects, or are you talking about like status?
00:55:12
TWIYpod
Albums.
00:55:15
Wop
Are you talking about music?
00:55:17
TWIYpod
Albums. Albums. Yeah, albums.
00:55:19
Wop
Oh, oh, oh, right, right, right, right.
00:55:19
TWIYpod
yeah album right
00:55:20
Wop
No, I...
00:55:21
TWIYpod
Drake has contractually dropped the album every year, every other year.
00:55:25
Wop
Thanks, thanks.
00:55:25
TWIYpod
kenjik Kendrick took like five off. Kendrick took three off, came back, did one, took another two or three off.
00:55:30
Wop
All right.
00:55:31
TWIYpod
Cole knew whatever he wanted when it comes down to dropping, and Drake has been, but at the same time, It's money behind that, right? Not to pocket watch, but it's money behind that.
00:55:39
Wop
Okay. All right.
00:55:41
TWIYpod
That's why Drake was able to go negotiate the deal with Apple Music because he knew he was finna get to this bag. And that puts him at a higher level of success.
00:55:52
TWIYpod
But when it comes down to artistry and making sure that all your albums sound good, he don't have that. But those other members do. It's some albums where you could say, this ain't a great Drake album.
00:56:06
Wop
Okay. Yeah. But the thing about it, though, I get what you saying. Like, yeah, maybe the other guys throughout their time for one is to build up. It's just like when I say Kendrick won the the battle, right?
00:56:22
Wop
It's not that he out-wrapped Drake. He should fatigue strategically won the battle. The war. cause
00:56:30
TWIYpod
Pull the Drake on Drake.
00:56:32
Wop
Yes. But now he did it worse. Because Drake was bigging him up, right? Bigging him up. He was.
00:56:44
Wop
It's me, him, and Cole. Big three. You the big three. You bigging him up. Nigga, fuck the big three. That's what Kendrick told him.
00:56:54
TWIYpod
It's just big meat.
00:56:55
Wop
Fuck the big three. It's big me, nigga. Nigga, like, it's... is It's the art of... that that's the That's the game in war. The art of surprise. Drake wasn't ready for that.
00:57:07
Wop
He caught him with the haymaker. a Boom. Drake tried...
00:57:11
TWIYpod
No, he was ready.
00:57:12
Wop
Drake tried... No, he wasn't.
00:57:13
TWIYpod
He was ready. He had that push-up shit. He had that push-up shit ready.
00:57:19
Wop
That shit wasn't ready again. Because...
00:57:20
TWIYpod
Drake was more prepared for the battle than everybody gives him credit for.
00:57:21
Wop
Okay, you know what? I'll
00:57:26
TWIYpod
The only thing that fucked him up in the battle is that Kendrick dropped the song, which nobody even cares about anymore.
00:57:26
Wop
give you that.
00:57:33
TWIYpod
That Meet the Gram shit, nobody really fucks with that song no more after the shock value wore off of this nigga having a daughter. After that shock value of that wearing off of it and it being a lie probably,
00:57:46
TWIYpod
Nobody is running back to meet the grams. I do believe when it comes down to bars, Drake had the best this in the war in the battle. Drake had the best this that family matters joint smokes everything Kendrick did, but Kendrick made a fucking hit record. He made a back to back. Like when Drake made back to back on Meek Mill,
00:58:11
Wop
Yes.
00:58:11
TWIYpod
Is it world tour? Is it a girl's tour when everybody's just laughing and singing that line? Well, Kendrick did it to you.
00:58:20
Wop
Yeah.
00:58:21
TWIYpod
Freaky ass nigga, you a 69 God. It's nothing wrong with being a 69 God, by the way. right.
00:58:29
Wop
I care for the 69 a little bit, Michelle.
00:58:32
TWIYpod
I know we just said we were sending overly freaked out people to Australia.
00:58:41
TWIYpod
It's nothing wrong with being a 69 dog, okay? You do her, she do you simultaneously. You're being efficient.
00:58:52
Wop
You being efficient. I like that.
00:58:53
TWIYpod
You're being efficient.
00:58:57
Wop
um Yeah.
00:58:57
TWIYpod
Orgasm efficiency.
00:58:59
Wop
and and And sometimes my neck hurt. It's easier for me that way.
00:59:08
TWIYpod
Thanks, Bob. And we I definitely needed to know that about you and your animal style.
00:59:12
Wop
Yeah. No doubt. I worked. I worked.
00:59:22
TWIYpod
I just don't understand. I'm like, yo, why can't you make being a 60? He made 60 yards whack.
00:59:30
TWIYpod
But I could still go for that in 2026. I don't care what you say in the hook on your song. Freak ass nigga. He a 69 guard. Hey, hey, hey, hey. run for you lot Like I thought that I thought being a 69 guard was pretty cool.
00:59:46
Wop
Man, Kendrick, like i said, it's the art of war, man. Then you got the you got you got the future. Future on the joint. got You got Metro.
00:59:57
Wop
Who this beef really about. The beef starts female, too.
01:00:04
TWIYpod
Oh, yeah, because because you ain't do the verse. Something with his mama passing away. he fucked this girl. I don't know. Yeah, but you you can't you can't fuck with the producer.
01:00:13
Wop
Yeah.
01:00:16
Wop
You know this. so So at the end of the day, what I'm saying is that Kendrick throws the haymakers. Catch him. Boom.
01:00:27
Wop
He really won off of Drake just not being able to like, you know what I'm saying Even though Drake fighting is like it was really over with.
01:00:39
TWIYpod
it was a easy It was a long week.
01:00:39
Wop
Not like not like a and then you you man look
01:00:46
TWIYpod
It was a long week. Nigga, family matters came out. Meet the meet the grams came out like the 12 hours later, not even that long. And then that happened on like a Wednesday, Thursday.
01:00:59
TWIYpod
And then what you call it came out on Sunday. Not like us came out on Sunday. Like, that's how that's how quick shit happened in the battle.
01:01:10
TWIYpod
It was ah like everything happened in the scope of like two weeks, like two, three weeks from not from from not from like that so pushups to ups to the to not like us.
01:01:11
Wop
Yeah.
01:01:19
Wop
Yeah.
01:01:22
TWIYpod
All of that was like three weeks of hip hop, which was nuts.
01:01:25
Wop
But issue like that is ah is a is like a real haymaker. Boom. Round one. Fight. Bam. Catch him. instant Instantly. Catch him. The knockout.
01:01:35
TWIYpod
let you breathe in a little bit.
01:01:36
Wop
It was a knockout.
01:01:37
TWIYpod
Well,
01:01:40
Wop
Cause he really just come recover after that. Cause it's too much. It's the it's the creativity, the video. you You get, you get, and then it's the background shit that happened with that shit.
01:01:53
Wop
So you get the video, the visuals, you see the DeMar DeRozan's. Oh man.
01:02:00
Wop
Okay. This nigga, you publicly, and this how nasty, this is why i say i feel Drake, where you coming from. Because they got the video of DeMar talking about after he got traded.
01:02:12
Wop
And Drake reached out to him and told him he always going to be a brother. And Drake really big on that loyalty shit, bro. Like, he really big on this shit, bro.
01:02:24
Wop
For you, for for Drake, you can't blame him. Gee, it's you niggas chose. You niggas pick size, man. You niggas pick size, gang.
01:02:32
TWIYpod
Yo, Drake might be the pettiest nigga in hip-hop. I used to think it was 50. I used to think it was 50, and 50 had that crown for a long time.
01:02:44
Wop
I he petty, though, gang.
01:02:46
TWIYpod
Because why you got beef with Pharrell, so you went and bought all of Pharrell's old jewelry?
01:02:53
Wop
Fuck him.
01:02:55
TWIYpod
That's what I'm saying.
01:02:56
Wop
That's petty. I'm saying this shit.
01:02:57
TWIYpod
Going and buying a nigga's old jewelry?
01:03:00
Wop
I'm saying this DeMar DeRozan shit. Why did why did the the LeBron shit? Why are you at the man concert gang dancing and you say you my brother? You see what this nigga calling me a pedophile, man.
01:03:13
TWIYpod
ah I don't like that though. I don't like that because that shit, it wasn't like motherfuckers made that song a hit. It was a hit song.
01:03:24
TWIYpod
So you mean to tell me I can't go to a concert because we friends?
01:03:31
Wop
Gang, this man is publicly dissing me. I'm your homie. I can see if we, like, i could LeBron, and you can't tell me LeBron and Kendrick are really homies.
01:03:42
Wop
They might have a mutual respect for them because LeBron got a healthy love for hip-hop. We know that. But come on, gang.
01:03:49
TWIYpod
No, Bron was wild.
01:03:49
Wop
Drake and Ron is locked in, bro.
01:03:50
TWIYpod
Bron was wild. Bron was wild, especially because he's not from L.A. And he made too many videos with Kendrick shit playing in the background.
01:04:03
TWIYpod
Like, he had the video at Draymond Green wedding or some shit where he was singing the I deserve it all.
01:04:04
Wop
Oh God,
01:04:10
TWIYpod
And he had, like, a cup of Cavarcia with a cup of cognac with him. He was I deserve it all. he was He was hitting the lyrics bar for bar. And I was like, damn, LeBron, like, What did Drake do to you? This feel personal on LeBron end, too.
01:04:25
Wop
um god that's what I'm saying. It is like, so you, if you Drake, if you ain't addressing what's the beef, Drake probably in his mind like I ain't even know was a beef.
01:04:36
Wop
So nigga, I just think you fake his head.
01:04:39
TWIYpod
And I'm tired of seeing you crip walk, Bron.
01:04:42
Wop
Yeah.
01:04:42
TWIYpod
I ain't going lie to you. Bron, I don't ever want to see you crip walk again unless you win the championship.
01:04:47
Wop
You don't see Drake dissing Russell Westbrook because him and Russ weren't friends. ain't like You know I'm saying Russ was alive at that bitch. He's in that He's in that bitch going crazy.
01:04:56
TWIYpod
Russ was on stage. He was clicking his heels here.
01:05:02
Wop
He ain't dissing Russ. Cause him and Russ ain't homies. He don't look at that shit like, oh, he know Russ l a LA nigga.
01:05:08
TWIYpod
And he fake ain he friends with KD. So he he already chose his side. He chose KD in the divorce. He already chose his
01:05:15
Wop
i Type
01:05:18
TWIYpod
Man, but yeah, Drake drak is good, man. Drake, I like the petty shit. I like telling people I own the chains. I own all the chains of the people that used to be respected in Virginia. I love that shout out.
01:05:33
TWIYpod
um Good shit. Finals, game one.
01:05:39
TWIYpod
We excited yet? Are we excited, Wop?
NBA Finals and Team Dynamics
01:05:43
Wop
And this is going to be a good series, man. I picked the Knicks to win, you know. And it ain't because it i picked them because you know how I work.
01:05:54
Wop
So this is the the most expensive starting and five in the NBA contractually. Jalen Brunson, Josh Hart, Mikael Bridges, Carl Anthony Towns.
01:06:07
TWIYpod
OG.
01:06:07
Wop
And OG, these all our players are making max money.
01:06:15
TWIYpod
No, Jalen took a heavy.
01:06:17
Wop
But he's still making, he he took a little pay, because I'll give you that. he took But get what I'm saying, he's still making 50 mil a year. This is the most expensive starting five.
01:06:26
TWIYpod
Heavy.
01:06:28
Wop
I didn't i did the research. This is the most extensive expensive starting five in the league. Go get y'all money, man. When people pay y'all that money, we We should be able to expect results. It's that simple.
01:06:39
Wop
They're making that peg. The East was wide open for them this year. Boston's hurt. Indiana's hurt. Cleveland is Cleveland.
01:06:49
Wop
Cleveland was supposed to do what they did. i was happy to actually see that. Cleveland making it to the Eastern Conference Finals because what else was y'all supposed to do besides get there? Who else? who Which y i was going to let the young Detroit team beat y'all. No.
01:07:05
TWIYpod
Everything has played out exactly how it should have. I mean, i we called it last summer. We said, yo, if if anybody's going to next year, it's got to be the Knicks. We didn't know Tatum was going to come back super early.
01:07:18
Wop
fact
01:07:19
TWIYpod
Nicky came back. They still lost. We knew Hallie was going to be out. So we said it's either going to be Philly or the Knicks. And you can't depend on Philly because of that African bull that always makes Dizzle scream at the but in the podcast, Mike.
01:07:36
TWIYpod
You can't rely on Cleveland because they're Cleveland. And they got James Harden, so that made them even more Cleveland than they were before.
01:07:44
Wop
Type shoot.
01:07:46
TWIYpod
So it had to be the Knicks. I did love watching the game because it looks just like what happened in the midseason cup, the in-season tournament, whatever, whatever.
01:07:59
TWIYpod
Wemby's going to play defense on Josh Hart because Josh Hart, the worst three-point shooter in that lineup. So Wemby's going to play defense on Josh.
01:08:11
TWIYpod
He's going to float. Protect the paint. Josh ain't going hit them threes. If Josh hits those threes, the Knicks will sweep.
01:08:22
Wop
But he going to other shit, though. See, that's the thing.
01:08:25
TWIYpod
15 rebounds.
01:08:25
Wop
But they didn't they didn't even really put Wimby on Josh exclusively last night. They had him trying to guard Cat. And Cat held his own. That's what people don't want to talk about. Cat held his own. Like,
01:08:38
TWIYpod
He had to wake up.
01:08:40
TWIYpod
He had to wake up.
01:08:40
Wop
Wimby did not have a great game at all by by any means.
01:08:45
TWIYpod
Nah, halftime, he was what, two for ten
01:08:49
Wop
like I think he had 26 last night, 27, something like that. Field goal percentage was not great. He had a he had a he had what I would call still – he showed up, he played, you know i'm saying, he did what he – he impacted the game, obviously.
01:09:06
Wop
When when the team – when he went to the bench, you could tell that's when New York get back into the game, take control of the game because that's what you're supposed to do.
01:09:14
TWIYpod
Go on a run. They go on a run.
01:09:15
Wop
That's what you're supposed to
01:09:16
TWIYpod
that When Wemby hits the bench, the run the Knicks the run the knicks go on when Wemby hits the bench reminds me of those Golden State Warriors third quarters.
01:09:19
Wop
over.
01:09:27
TWIYpod
You remember how Golden State used to beat your ass in the third quarter and the game was pretty much over? Every time Wemby go hit the bench, that's exactly what the Knicks do.
01:09:33
Wop
Fact.
01:09:36
TWIYpod
nick They was down 16. Guess what? Wemby hit the bench. Now we down six. Wemby come back. we We just maintained six to ten point deficit.
01:09:47
TWIYpod
Wemby go hit the bench. Now we up four. It's like, oh, shit.
01:09:49
Wop
yeah
01:09:51
TWIYpod
How'd that happen? Because OG hitting shots. Because Cat went to the basket, and he did this on Wemby. Two plays back to back. Cat went to the basket, hooping the hard three-point play two times in a row for Cat. Cat didn't wake up until about the third quarter.
01:10:07
TWIYpod
Middle to end of the third quarter, Cat woke up. And I was like, right, Cat not pussy no more.
01:10:13
Wop
But he wasn't settling. That's the main thing. Cat catt normally want to shoot threes. Cat was making Wimby. He was really, and then he was doing what I like, like the Draymond shit.
01:10:26
Wop
But the thing about it is Draymond, not you're not worried about it when Draymond do it. Like the the lane still wide open, all type of shit. The the fake handoffs.
01:10:36
TWIYpod
yeah
01:10:38
Wop
You know what I'm saying? He he doing the fake handoff to Brunson, but spinning off Wimby. and and And he playing tough. playing big, though. like Like, at the end of the day, like, if he can just keep playing like that, just still, just stay in the game, that's going to force Wimby to keep playing hard, and and it's going to take them other players. Now, I like what I seen from Dylan Harper.
01:11:05
Wop
Dylan Harper got a very promising future. It's De'Aaron Fox who's scaring me right now. He was up for the man.
01:11:12
TWIYpod
What?
01:11:13
Wop
Yeah.
01:11:14
TWIYpod
but
01:11:15
Wop
man and he
01:11:16
TWIYpod
Listen.
01:11:19
TWIYpod
Expensive garbage.
01:11:23
TWIYpod
All right. The young boy getting paid 50, and he's on an escalating contract. So that means every year it's going to 5% 5% more. And he got four more of them years.
01:11:35
TWIYpod
Now, I will take it that he's fresh off an ankle injury.
01:11:39
Wop
is facts
01:11:39
TWIYpod
So he looked like He looked like he came back too early. But I've said this before, and I'll say it for the rest of my life as long as it's true. Those super fast athletic players, as soon as they get injured, especially a lower body injury,
01:11:59
TWIYpod
They lose a step and they never recover. Their career different from them and they never can recover. You know, with John Wall, we've seen it with John Wall. We've seen it with Derrick Rose to some extent. He still made the best out of the rest of his career that he could, but it wasn't what we had before. But he was able to adapt his game and make adjustments to his game.
01:12:21
TWIYpod
De'Aaron Fox can't do that. His game was, I'm the fastest guy on the court. I'm elusive. I can go get to the cup. I can get a foul. I can make you put a body on me and do something reckless. That was his game. That's not been his game since he's been in San Antonio.
01:12:40
Wop
But he actually, up until the ankle injury, he was playing well. going give him that. He was playing well. Against Portland, he played well. Against Minnesota, he played well. it's It's this too, though.
01:12:52
Wop
I'm just keeping real. I think it's more so, ain't going to say he don't want it, right? Because hes he's playing right. I'm just saying he's struggling. That's what I'm observing.
01:13:04
Wop
He's getting to the basket. He's missing point-blank shots. That's not due to no ankle injury. That's just due to rust, I believe, or just timing is off right now.
01:13:17
Wop
And it's just, that could be part of it, right?
01:13:17
TWIYpod
ah light The light's too bright.
01:13:20
Wop
The pressure, we know. This is his. And I was just telling some of the guys this the other day. Like, they like, I'm expecting more from De'Aaron Fox. Like, bro, he knew this shit too.
01:13:33
TWIYpod
Just because he's the second oldest guy on the team don't mean he's going to be the calm, savvy veteran that you need him to be. You know who's... That's Harrison Barnes. 40 outs.
01:13:33
Wop
He doesn't.
01:13:46
TWIYpod
That's his job. He got to be the Alonzo morning on the bench calming everybody down.
01:13:50
Wop
He's the
01:13:52
TWIYpod
He's the Jawan Howard in the locker room telling everybody, yo, shut the fuck up. Hit your spots. Champagne. Do this. Castle. Do that.
01:14:02
Wop
He's the guy that's been on on on two championship teams. or Well, not teams necessarily, but two finals runs. He's the guy that's been in the league for 10 plus years that got playoff experience. like That's the guy. Not De'Aaron Fox. De'Aaron Fox has point guard skills and he he has leadership skills for sure.
01:14:24
Wop
But far as these real real playoff moments, nah. No, he don't have those. He don't have those.
01:14:33
TWIYpod
andryson cook And Brunson cooked him.
01:14:35
Wop
Ronson cooked everybody.
01:14:36
TWIYpod
as As much as he could, Brunson cooked him. 30 points from my man. He looked great. What was it? 10 points, 11 points in the fourth quarter, 8 points, whatever.
01:14:47
Wop
it
01:14:47
TWIYpod
But they was all clutch.
01:14:48
Wop
he He's arguably the best closer in the game. that's his That's his bag. um it's It's more of Because he didn't have a great game either. that's That's the thing that if I'm the Knicks, I'm walking away from that game like that. Our best player didn't necessarily have a great game. Brunson was like 11 for 30.
01:15:09
Wop
That's not a great game.
01:15:10
TWIYpod
But you stole one on the road.
01:15:13
Wop
that's that's That's all you should care about, obviously, is winning. That's, you know I'm saying, that's the mentality. We won, we got the job done. But also, we played, we didn't really play well.
01:15:25
Wop
So what happens if we play well? Now, you can also factor in the fact that you say the Spurs in didn't necessarily play well, right? But we know if we if if if we didn't play well and they didn't play well, but we won, all we can feel is if if we play well and they play well, we still can win. That's all we can feel.
01:15:45
TWIYpod
But you got to make some adjustments.
01:15:47
Wop
It's crazy.
01:15:47
TWIYpod
Josh Hart, i love I love that you went out there and got 13 rebounds, 15 rebounds, however many you got. You took five three-pointers. You ain't make none. That's got to change.
01:16:00
TWIYpod
I still want you to pull it because he's shooting at corner three, the closest three-pointer on the court. I still want you to pull it, but I need you to make at least one of those.
01:16:13
TWIYpod
At least one. I'd prefer you to make two or three out of five. Make one.
01:16:19
Wop
I don't think – I just think that's just more
01:16:24
Wop
mo mo fire for the for the Knicks if he's starting to make these threes. The reality is he's their fifth scoring option on that team. He's the guy fifth they're asking to put do anything.
01:16:37
TWIYpod
Six. Six. They asking Landry Shemot and Mitchell Robinson to do more than they asking Hart.
01:16:42
Wop
I wouldn't say Mitchell. I wouldn't say Mitchell. I'd say ah Deuce.
01:16:46
TWIYpod
All
01:16:46
Wop
Oosh McBride, I'll say him. And in Landry, like you said, and maybe even Jordan Clarkson.
01:16:52
TWIYpod
right. Mitchell had two oops. He he missed the alley-oop and a put-back dunk early.
01:16:57
Wop
You can tell his finger fucked up, though.
01:16:59
TWIYpod
I said, man, hit the fucking bench.
01:17:00
Wop
had one But he he played, he gave you solid defense.
01:17:06
TWIYpod
It's not going happen again.
01:17:06
Wop
He gave you solid defense.
01:17:07
TWIYpod
it's not he will He's not going to miss that shit again. He's going to catch that shit with the other hand. He's going to do better next time. But that shit that I'm looking at for the Knicks, and I'm like, hmm, it ain't always going to be like this.
01:17:20
TWIYpod
Now, um the young boy that came from the 76ers that's on the Spurs now, that's who they got to watch.
01:17:29
Wop
Who?
01:17:30
TWIYpod
um what's What's his name? With the Dreads, the Shooter.
01:17:35
Wop
Caso?
01:17:36
TWIYpod
Yeah, yeah. That's who they got to watch. Because if Castle get his shit together now, I know in like the first two rounds, he had the most turnovers out any other player that was playing basketball that looked a little crazy before Fox came back.
01:17:50
TWIYpod
So clearly he's not ready to be the point. But if they keep if he keeps getting shots like that and when we don't have an off night, then it's going to be better for them. But I've said this the last series, San Antonio shoots too many three-pointers.
01:18:08
Wop
I don't know if they shoot too many threes. I do think at times, though, Wimby offensively can be a little bit indecisive. that That could be young, growing pains. But, like, when he real life put his head down and really, like, um'm I'm making it the issue to get in the paint, hey ain't too many people can stop, dude. They gonna either foul him or he gonna dunk on you or something, bro. Like, like,
01:18:38
Wop
It's just mostly on him. He settles a lot. And then I was saying it last night. Like, a lot of them niggas was rushing their threes. De'Aaron Fox was shooting way too many threes. Like, they they caught fire a little bit. What's his name? Champini, he caught fire first half. I think he hit like seven threes. No, he hit five threes in the first half.
01:18:57
Wop
I don't think he hit another three to the whole game. Like, he went ice cold. yeah That shit can't happen.
01:19:02
TWIYpod
James Harden ain't got no legs.
01:19:05
Wop
That shit can't happen. You can't give me five threes in the first half and don't give me at least two in the second half game.
01:19:11
TWIYpod
They getting swept. If if if game two happened like that, they getting swept because you you can't go to New York on Monday.
01:19:15
Wop
I think so.
01:19:18
Wop
Down. to
01:19:20
TWIYpod
On Monday when they arrive in New York, if they down o two this shit is over in the garden.
01:19:27
Wop
They got it. It ain't two, three, two no more. they got a they got a chance of if they win one on the road to get it back to San Antonio.
01:19:37
TWIYpod
Not happening. Well, they got they got to win they got to win tomorrow at the crib. protect get Make this an even joint again. i don't see that. I don't see them losing so tomorrow.
01:19:52
TWIYpod
But Sunday, Monday in the Garden, that shit's going to be crazy.
01:19:58
TWIYpod
That shit's going to be crazy. I can't wait.
01:20:00
Wop
I actually was saying this like to myself, though. like For real, like I do think if they lose, if they lose game two, they getting swept. I just feel it.
01:20:15
Wop
The Knicks, bro, have not lost a game since round one of the playoffs.
01:20:21
TWIYpod
against the whole.
01:20:26
Wop
The currently The fucking Atlanta Hawks is the only team to give this team some go. They're beating everybody by 10 plus points every game.
01:20:38
TWIYpod
Everything.
01:20:38
Wop
Every game. Not a know the only like, bro, bro, like that is crazy.
01:20:41
TWIYpod
how You know how hard that is in the playoffs?
01:20:49
TWIYpod
We game-planning against you, best of seven series. And you won by 10 points or more every fucking night, night after night.
01:20:59
Wop
The only two games they lost, they lost by like a combined of four points.
01:21:08
TWIYpod
Nah, it's nuts. The universe is going explode. When the Knicks win, because I've been telling everybody that got ears.
01:21:17
TWIYpod
the The universe is just in a better place when New York sports teams are playing competitive, meaningful sports. I don't care if it's the Rangers, the Yankees, the Mets, the Giants, the Jets. I don't give a fuck who it is. When the when New York sports franchises are playing competitive, meaningful games,
01:21:41
TWIYpod
The universe is just in a better place, bro. So many people I know from New York that it's not even Knicks fans, but they're so happy for this moment.
Player Development and Strategic Decisions
01:21:51
Wop
I actually just think it's just going to be good for basketball, right? Because, like you said, it is good for New York to win. This this is going be huge.
01:22:01
Wop
The Knicks is one of the – New York in particular is the mecca basketball from what they say, right? We know that. But the Knicks in particular have just been one of the historic teams.
01:22:13
Wop
Outside of the the Lakers and Celtics, this is probably the next team as far as like basketball royalty. ah We know who they are, right?
01:22:25
Wop
um So it's just to be huge. But I also look at it from this standpoint. I think it's just going to huge for basketball from the growing pains for a young player like Victor.
01:22:37
Wop
who if he was to lose, I think he takes this and builds with it, right? Like, which only just going to create more of a monster, Victor, which will be ultimately good for basketball because we want to see greatness.
01:22:52
Wop
So and and then it would just be, you know, ah this next team is a is not a young team. This is a veteran team. This is a a team that you kind of expect to win a title against a young team. You expect them to beat this young team. And I really don't do the age shit necessarily because I've seen young teams beat the the old dogs. I've been seen it on both ends, but.
01:23:16
Wop
It just seemed like this is the next time, like, actually. The the Spurs, we we look at them as a team that really just went went crazy this year. Like, we did not see them truly being in the the and NBA Finals at the start of the season. Let's just say that.
01:23:35
TWIYpod
It's his third year. Like, if he lose, this ain't even a stain on his jacket. It's his third year. Like, he's still he's still riding off the high of, look what I did in my third year, and he didn't play the first.
01:23:48
Wop
The stain will be if somehow these next couple of games he's just bad.
01:23:53
TWIYpod
He stink it up.
01:23:54
Wop
Yeah. That becomes the stain. Because it's one thing to lose. It's another to stink the joint. it
01:24:03
TWIYpod
if If that's when the talk starts of, you we got to give Vic some help. Yo, we got to get we got give Vic some help. We got acres of land. We farming our own chickens.
01:24:17
Wop
but we already know that.
01:24:19
TWIYpod
Nah, I don't think he need help. My man keeps telling me that Greek Freak is going to San Antonio or he's going to OKC.
01:24:29
TWIYpod
i don't I don't see it. I i do believe that. win, lose, or draw, the Spurs are going to be a problem. Barring injury, the Spurs are going to be a problem for the next three to five.
01:24:42
TWIYpod
More of a problem than
01:24:46
Wop
Yeah, but depends on what OKC do because OKC, they in a fucked up position right now because you have Chet and J-Dub. J-Dub just got that back.
01:24:58
Wop
So the problem with J-Dub is he has this weird um value in the league, right? are you as are you Are you a number two or number three?
01:25:13
Wop
Because yes,
01:25:14
TWIYpod
They paid him number two money.
01:25:16
Wop
But this year, this year, Chet played like the number two. Chet made all NBA. Chet made first team all defensive. Then Chet got exposed by Victor.
01:25:30
TWIYpod
Stock went down, by the way.
01:25:31
Wop
Stock went down.
01:25:32
TWIYpod
Stock went down when that happened. When Victor hold him, stock went down.
01:25:37
Wop
Hell yeah.
01:25:38
TWIYpod
eight You're not getting back what you paid for him.
01:25:41
Wop
No. So now you you you stuck. Now you can potentially finesse. I ain't to even finesse. You got a team like Milwaukee who know they got to do something with Giannis.
01:25:53
Wop
How interested is A-N? Shit. That's the reality. The problem is is a team like Milwaukee you really don't want a player like that because now you just Giannis money but no Giannis results.
01:26:10
TWIYpod
Giannis with no muscle.
01:26:11
Wop
yeah you you you You making what I'm paying a Norfolk a light, Giannis. But I can't expect nothing from you like a Giannis.
01:26:19
TWIYpod
They got to sweeten the deal and throw in some of them draft picks. And that's what OKC don't want to do. They got 15 draft picks in the next five years or some shit like that.
01:26:30
TWIYpod
And they don't want to give up that draft capital because no matter what, that's the future when they got to move off some of these contracts, when they got to let go of our heart for a ham sandwich.
01:26:41
TWIYpod
They got to do something and they got to have his backup ready. And I can't do that if I give away all my draft picks so I can get Greek free. I can't do that.
01:26:52
TWIYpod
Now, ain't saying give them all up, but they're going to give up the the most attractive joints.
01:26:57
Wop
The place
01:26:57
TWIYpod
you You own a draft pick from Sacramento? Yeah, I need that. I need that.
01:27:01
Wop
ain't gonna be enough.
01:27:02
TWIYpod
Sacramento, boom the picks, it's going to be some picks and Chet.
01:27:02
Wop
Yeah. That's gonna be enough.
01:27:07
TWIYpod
And Chet just got to look more attractive.
01:27:08
Wop
yeah that's go to be But I'm just still saying, like, if you Milwaukee, though, do you really want check? Because, again, you would you would love a player that's finna make Giannis money. Because long as he's is annually making the same money, cool, I can take on that contract because I know you're going a free agent next year. I ain't resigning you.
01:27:30
Wop
Cool. But a check che qualifies for this extension this year.
01:27:35
TWIYpod
Oh, don't win McCain. You can have McCain and Chet and two of your favorite draft picks. Let me get you honest.
01:27:46
Wop
I'm, I'm, if I'm okay, see, I'm thirsty for that trade.
01:27:50
TWIYpod
oh Oh, yeah, they because they need the muscle because whatever whatever it is that I can't do. You need the muscle that Chet wasn't giving you.
01:27:59
Wop
But I ain't, I ain't gonna lie.
01:27:59
TWIYpod
And
01:28:00
Wop
I would probably rather keep Chet with Giannis though. Chet and Giannis is a better pairing than, than Giannis and J Dub and Shea.
01:28:10
TWIYpod
You got to move Chet to the three.
01:28:11
Wop
No, you gotta move Chet to the five.
01:28:14
TWIYpod
And what you going to with heart? You going to give up I heart?
01:28:16
Wop
Yes.
01:28:19
TWIYpod
ah
01:28:20
Wop
For Giannis, hell yeah, bye.
01:28:22
TWIYpod
White privilege. White my white privilege.
01:28:23
Wop
Hardenstein,
01:28:24
TWIYpod
White privilege won't allow Hartenstein to get traded for Giannis.
01:28:28
Wop
he's solid, but for Giannis, he got to go.
01:28:31
TWIYpod
You got to give up something else. You got to give up McCain and the other boy.
01:28:35
Wop
um Matter of fact, I might give you J-Dub and Hardenstein for Giannis.
01:28:35
TWIYpod
ah One of them Jalens. You got two Jalens on your team.
01:28:42
TWIYpod
You got to give up one of them Jalens, too. give me give me You got two of them on your team. You got two Jalens. Give up one of
01:28:48
Wop
I'm giving you J-Dub. I'm giving you J-Dub. And in you
01:28:56
Wop
then I'm going to be straight because, like I said, you get with Chet, you get the three-point shooting, right? And then you get the elite rim protection now with Giannis and the Chet.
01:29:10
Wop
Now you have elite rim protection.
01:29:12
TWIYpod
stretch the floor.
01:29:14
Wop
You still got a Lou Dort if you can try to keep him. Keep a Ludor. What is Shea? Still got an Alex Caruso.
01:29:24
Wop
You got an AJ Mitchell.
01:29:26
TWIYpod
I feel so bad for Caruso.
01:29:30
Wop
Caruso had a great series.
01:29:31
TWIYpod
I shitted on Caruso when he left LA. I shitted on him so bad. and ever since ever since I was started shitting on him, he just started glowing up.
01:29:41
Wop
Why you...
01:29:41
TWIYpod
Proving me wrong.
01:29:43
Wop
Why you shit up?
01:29:43
TWIYpod
Because he look like Elmer Fudd. Because his headband too big. Yo, y'all NBA dudes with these fat-ass headbands, relax.
01:29:55
TWIYpod
We don't have no time for them fat-ass headbands no more. That's worse than that Ron Artest headband where he had the Tri-Logo headband. He had a headband in the middle and a headband around.
01:30:06
TWIYpod
Should look like some draws on his head. Relax.
01:30:09
Wop
You the...
01:30:10
TWIYpod
um But I'm looking forward to the rest of the finals. OKC, y'all got some work to do. um LeBron, stay away from the Warriors, gang. Your services services aren't needed.
01:30:19
Wop
Nah, he might as well do that.
01:30:24
Wop
Fuck outta here.
01:30:25
TWIYpod
Nah, I'll stop being a fan of both.
01:30:29
Wop
Nigga, nigga, y'all.
01:30:30
TWIYpod
LeBron, LeBron come to my squad.
01:30:31
Wop
Y'all can use burn.
01:30:32
TWIYpod
I'll never watch basketball again.
01:30:34
Wop
Y'all can use burn, gang. I ain't back to you. Y'all can definitely use burn again.
01:30:40
TWIYpod
I mean, if he get Jimmy off the roster, if he get Jimmy off the roster, I'll feel a little bit differently about it.
01:30:43
Wop
That's the only way it's going to make sense.
01:30:48
TWIYpod
I hate Jimmy more and more each day.
01:30:49
Wop
article Y'all got to get Dremon off the squad. Well, definitely Draymond. I would try to get Draymond off the squad for sure. Jimmy, if you could keep him and Bond, it might not be too bad.
01:31:03
Wop
Bond and Jimmy could play together.
01:31:03
TWIYpod
Draymond.
01:31:05
TWIYpod
Draymond might be on suicide watch if they trade him and and get LeBron. Draymond might be on suicide watch. You know that's his man.
01:31:14
TWIYpod
You know he's going to be hurt.
01:31:14
Wop
He's going be hurt for sure, but ain't going to be on suicide watch.
01:31:18
Wop
going understand it. He's going to be on this podcast. If I had a chance to trade me for LeBron, I would. I would.
01:31:28
Wop
so
01:31:33
TWIYpod
Shout out to Draymond. Draymond, come to the network. i see you on the I see you on the volume with Colin Cowherd. Come to the network. Come fuck with your boy. You can be on my pod here. The world is yours. You can be on the used pod, and we can cut up and do some shit.