Game Reflection: Challenges and Resilience
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DailySaintsPod
Hello and welcome back to the Daily Saints pod. My name is Greg and as always today join my good friend and wonderful co-host Zach. i Mate, still unbeaten right?
00:00:25
DailySaintsPod
Is it good?
00:00:26
Zak
Yes, that's what we can take from it, right? Didn't lose, also didn't win, but Bristol made it really hard. Bristol made it really, really hard. We had a discussion about it in the car on way back. and at first yeah they they They came to continue their curse and they didn't manage it quite, they not without trying.
Season's Fatigue: Impact on Performance
00:00:50
Zak
I think that the fatigue of the season is kicking in. And as frustrating as the draw is, because it now means that, you know, we're having to rely on playoffs. There was a time this season where we didn't think we'd get playoffs. And having come home, checked the old timeline on all the socials, seen the scenes at Leicester, which is just, I guess, shocking. It's like the only... i think they all seem shell-shocked.
00:01:24
Zak
I don't know what to say about that really other than that. You know, you're going to end up, I think the first, one of the first tweets I saw was like, Leicester's new 86 million pound training ground getting prepped
Bigger Picture: Playoffs and Unbeaten Streak
00:01:36
Zak
It's just like very, oh wow, it could be so, so much worse.
00:01:41
DailySaintsPod
Well, that's it, mate.
00:01:42
DailySaintsPod
I mean, look, we talk about how some draws feel like wins and some draws feel like losses.
00:01:43
Zak
So, so much worse. Like,
00:01:48
DailySaintsPod
And as you know, I'm a person who who feels the football, right? Like it drives the emotions. And sometimes I have to like take a step back and try and reflect on it.
00:01:58
DailySaintsPod
and And it felt when I left the stadium, like that was a draw that felt like a loss. But as i try to take a step back and reflect on it and think of the slightly bigger picture,
00:02:11
DailySaintsPod
We've confirmed to playoff places with that point.
00:02:14
DailySaintsPod
We're still 20 games unbeaten. To even be in a position where we thought we might win all of the games for the rest of the season is an insane position to have
Millwall's Win: Impact on Promotion Hopes
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DailySaintsPod
been in. And and although it it you know effectively is the the nail in the coffin barring something really strange for you know any hope we had of automatics,
00:02:37
DailySaintsPod
It's probably irrelevant anyway because Millwall beat Stoke tonight, who were the most likely team to get anything from Millwall because they now go on to play relegated and defeated Leicester.
00:02:53
DailySaintsPod
And then they go on to play Oxford, who by the time they play them will also probably be relegated. So... So, you know, with with all of that, it was a a gritty performance where we showed the character to fight back twice in a game that, you're right, Bristol came out fast and with quality and played really well and made it really difficult and and put in a really good effort.
00:03:18
Zak
Price, let's put a save real quick.
00:03:24
DailySaintsPod
Yeah. I guess it's what you'd expect from a Roy Hodgson team, right, to come out and do that. And, yeah, it just is. Hmm.
00:03:35
Zak
Up until that point, despite us talking about it pre-game, completely forgot that Roy Hatch was possible to their manager until that. So, yeah, I don't know. It felt... It genuinely, it like weirdly felt like fighting
Bristol City's Strong Start and Team Response
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Zak
Like it when we went 1-0 down very, very early on, some people were still pouring into the stadium. Coming in and watching like the reaction of so many people that were just sort of like, hang on, what?
00:03:59
Zak
Like was was bizarre to, and yeah, you're right, fighting back and managing to, you know, not only once, but twice and and really putting towards a a push towards the end of the game to try and score a winner.
00:04:11
Zak
Like even Peretz came up, right? and unfortunately it wasn't unfortunate it wasn't to be, but there are times this season where this same team would have collapsed after Wunderdown.
00:04:13
DailySaintsPod
Yeah. Press came up for the corner.
00:04:21
DailySaintsPod
Yeah, absolutely. i mean, especially the nature of the first goal, right?
00:04:25
DailySaintsPod
It's a Ryan Manning own goal. I mean, i just can't I've watched it back on the highlights since I come home and I can't... The only way I can fault him really is that he was the wrong side of the man in the first place to to be in that position.
00:04:42
DailySaintsPod
But other than that, it just kind of is what it is. But, you know, it it was a tricky start. But, i mean, we were hampered immediately, right, with Stephens going off in the warm-up injured and having to bring in wood.
00:04:53
DailySaintsPod
And we looked unsettled and perhaps a little fatigued to start with.
00:05:00
Zak
Yeah, i think I think that nothing... like You prepare for stuff like that, but sometimes, you should know even when it... Even if as much as you could mentally prepare for something like that, when it actually happens, it's always going to have a bit of a knock-on effect when, you know, you're about to go into something and of a sudden someone's been subbed out.
Strategy Struggles and Tactical Adjustments
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Zak
It's always going to... Especially with, with again, that they they they came out to disrupt the course of play... and fair play to Bristol City because they they played a a good game of football for, well, a good game of football for what they wanted to achieve, right?
00:05:27
DailySaintsPod
Well, then, then
00:05:31
DailySaintsPod
But look, their movement up front was excellent. And what it did was successfully drag our defenders out of position enough to create that space in behind on several occasions. And they, you know, they had a few...
00:05:46
DailySaintsPod
I mean, you know, they kind of scored from two of their three best chances.
00:05:51
DailySaintsPod
They had a couple of half, you know, chances where if the shot was better, they they probably do it. But yeah they their movement up front caused problems for for the entirety of the game. Yeah.
00:06:06
DailySaintsPod
But it it really took us equalising and getting the goal for us to really like switch into a gear that we've seen from us you know the last few games. that As soon as we scored, the tempo was upped.
00:06:19
DailySaintsPod
We went back at them. And and you know I said to you, I don't know whether it's deflated them or inflated us. And you said it's kind of both.
00:06:27
Zak
Oh, yeah, I think it was a bit of both. And also, i think that the crowd then got riled up as well.
Player Fatigue and Team Selections
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Zak
And again, i do think it's just a kind I do think it's just fatigue. You could see it on some of the players. I was surprised by some of the the team selection. I don't mean that in a way that is is critical Tonda.
00:06:45
Zak
I think he's earned the right to pick whatever team he believes. But I think Azaz was a little bit off tonight. And I don't mean that.
00:06:51
DailySaintsPod
Thank you.
00:06:54
Zak
Considering he was out injured, came back, and maybe... just tonight was a game too far. I kind of feel the same. This has happened to Archer a few times where he's put in some really, really amazing substitute performances, like scored a goal, and then he gets the start that he's kind of wanted and didn't really manage to do what he wanted to be able to prove his like position.
00:07:16
Zak
I don't think it's because of the technical ability of the player, but you did point out that, yeah, it's just like his first touch just meant that.
00:07:22
DailySaintsPod
it really lets him down time and time again.
00:07:22
Zak
and we And I think the the problem was...
00:07:28
Zak
Oh yeah, it always is.
00:07:34
DailySaintsPod
And he you know had a half-decent game, was in amongst it. but But yeah, it's time and time again you try and use him as the outlet when you're sort of rotating around with that front line. And his first touch is just not not good enough to to do that and do the hold-up play. You need to be playing it in front of him for him to run onto it.
00:07:53
Zak
But it was also, i think that it wouldn't be as obvious if we were able to win the second balls that we needed to win this game. But you could tell. This is why we were talking about the fatigue that was maybe set in, is that we just sometimes were we're losing the ball in in in silly little ways and and not quite being able to keep it.
00:08:10
Zak
And, you know, I think...
00:08:11
DailySaintsPod
Well, they just seem to be first underneath the ball more often than not. Like, they were there and and getting it.
Breaking Down Bristol City's Defense
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DailySaintsPod
And done because of that, we really struggled to get our foot into the game at any point and really build momentum. and And in the first half, particularly, their their shape and their organization was excellent. We were struggling to break it down.
00:08:34
DailySaintsPod
And that's why we were you know playing with it around at the back, trying to drag them out to create the space. And then we got caught at the back a couple of times and nearly created our own problems.
00:08:45
Zak
i wish it was like more obvious that that's what we're doing, though, because I think the frustration around the the stadium is that you can you could feel that it's like, oh, we're just messing about with it at the back.
00:08:57
Zak
And was like, not that we tried to do that much anymore, specifically because of the type of opponent we're playing.
00:09:03
Zak
But again, like Bristol City came with a came with a game plan and they executed it pretty successfully, all things considered. And, you know, we managed to fight back in a way that we wouldn't have previously in a disrupted side, in a fatigued side. And as much as we would have, as you pointed out, loved to be in a position where we win every single game in a row because it genuinely felt like we'd do that.
00:09:25
Zak
i just I just felt even from the start, the energy tonight was a bit like, okay, is this is this about surviving this game more than winning it? And I don't know.
00:09:35
Zak
That's kind of how I felt. Maybe I'm just not allowed to come with you ever again, or specifically sit with you. It turns out I can come around to the stadium.
00:09:42
DailySaintsPod
Yeah, I don't know, mate.
00:09:43
Zak
It's not problem, but...
00:09:43
DailySaintsPod
but so on What you say about you wish more people sort of understood it and saw it, it should have been obvious that that was the case because because in that moment where they they were choosing to press us high and we were trying to drag them out and we were sort of messing around with the back and nearly got us ourselves in trouble and nearly broke out a couple of times too, and sort of immediately after that phase of play, they dropped their high press and dropped back to a low block.
00:10:11
DailySaintsPod
And then you see us, you know, sauntering forward
Referee Decisions and Game Dynamics
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DailySaintsPod
with the ball. and You've got Taylor Harbour, Bellis and Nathan Wood, like, in their half trying to find the passes. And they're just closing down the space where you can, like, pass it around and get it out to the winger. But by the time you get it out to the winger, they've got two players, they're covering it. so then you pass it back to Recycling, it out to the other winger. You get out to the other winger and they've got two players, they're covering it. And then it's just...
00:10:34
DailySaintsPod
We didn't have the the...
00:10:36
DailySaintsPod
And it's not, you know, it's not our lack of creativity. It's because they were very well organised and did their job very well. And we're always going to, that you know, they have the second best defensive record in the league.
00:10:48
DailySaintsPod
you know, that was to be expected. It was always going to be a game where patience was going to be the difficult bit. And then, yeah, I mean, two pretty sloppy goals as well.
00:10:59
Zak
Yeah, they weren't good to concede. But again, it's the i think that I can understand the frustration from the the urgency, and that is probably due to the fatigue. is that Sometimes you're just really trying to will them on just to be it a little bit faster, tiny a little bit faster.
00:11:17
Zak
like There's a couple of times that we could have been faster, and obviously we're able to...
00:11:19
DailySaintsPod
Half a yard. Like, it's just the tiniest bit.
00:11:22
Zak
And we were able to inject that pace a little bit towards the end of the game with like, you know, when Leo came on stuff. But even then, there were a lot of times that he was just completely out on his own because there's a big battle going on in the midfield and then eventually the ball would come out to him.
00:11:34
DailySaintsPod
Or a short breeze blew over a a player and the referee decided to give it as a foul.
00:11:40
Zak
the The thing is, we've we've kind of discounted talking about the ref, but you know I think anyone that was in the stadium tonight knows everybody's opinion on both the ref and the lino towards the end and how long it took for them to pick up a card and
00:11:54
DailySaintsPod
It was awful.
00:11:55
DailySaintsPod
They were...
00:11:55
Zak
But again, if it was the other way, if it was the devil's advocate, mate, it was the other way around, you know, like we, we had free, we, we, you'd still call out, but we have the famous meme of like Ryan Bertrand tapping his watch.
00:12:01
DailySaintsPod
i think I'd still call it out.
00:12:07
Zak
And like, it's a part of every every single thing, right?
00:12:11
Zak
Like there was the conversation at the weekend where, i don't know if you've seen Harland was talking about like, Oh, well if you go down, if you're too honest, and that's why a lot of players like fall over and take their time and this or any other is like, you know, it needs to be, as we've always asked, to be more consistent.
00:12:26
Zak
And there were a couple of times where like a throw-in should have definitely been ours, but wasn't. That led to an attack for them. But we also got the news today that it
00:12:32
DailySaintsPod
I will say that aside from the soft fouls, when the...
00:12:40
DailySaintsPod
the the way he dealt with the time wasting throughout was pretty consistent and pretty good. He didn't stand for a lot of it and he added the time on at the end and and even the time wasting in the extra time he added a bit on at the end for it.
00:12:53
DailySaintsPod
So but i don't have a lot of complaints about about sort of how he dealt with the dark arts, but apart from just the blatant dives he was giving as fouls against us was just
00:12:54
Zak
Yeah, we had that, we had the quarter and...
Future Focus: Playoffs and Maintaining Form
00:13:07
Zak
your Your exact screaming, mate, was your exact screaming at the top of your voice, which you you often don't remember, which is always fun to to spend time with you.
00:13:07
DailySaintsPod
And then the linesman with offside.
00:13:16
Zak
as does Do you know it's a contact sport ref?
00:13:20
Zak
Words to that effect. You can fill in all of the blanks and expletives, but yeah, obviously, you know, it was...
00:13:21
DailySaintsPod
Yeah. Yeah. I think at one point when the police response team walked past in front, I said, are you going to deal with that Lino's criminal performance as well?
00:13:32
DailySaintsPod
Which I think got a bit of a snigger. LAUGHTER
00:13:35
Zak
You've got to laugh off me, mate, put it that way. But yeah, again, if we came up against a side that, did like you know like when we played against Swansea, didn't really have a lot to play for this season, but wanted to get the best result they possibly can and finish the highest they can. you know Their fans tried to give us a bit of banter right up until it was 2-2, and then we didn't hear them for the rest of the game.
00:13:56
Zak
but fair play. I just kind of feel like we we broke the curse, just not the way that we wanted to break it. And now it is in the hands of the playoffs and we will need to be sharp. and But there was a big portion of this season where we didn't even think that was going to be a possibility.
00:14:15
Zak
Like genuinely genuinely championship survival. And you you can look over to a club that has been run poorly and a club that have made assumptions that they are going to just win the league and were in a higher position than us when we were in our worst time of this season who have now just been relegated and go wow that really really sucks they won the premier league a decade ago maybe it isn't actually that bad that we've got to draw on a tuesday night at home against a relatively business
00:14:46
DailySaintsPod
Yeah, you know they and and actually, like it might be me trying to find a silver lining or find the optimism as is my nature. But there is an argument that that it's kind of a blessing in disguise because...
00:15:04
DailySaintsPod
because the pressure's kind of off now, right, for these for the Ipswich game and the Preston game, right? Like, obviously, we're still going to want to win and keep our unbeaten streak going and finish as high in the table as we possibly can because the higher we finish in the table, the better our playoff position is.
Tactical Choices for Winning Strategies
00:15:21
DailySaintsPod
You know, regardless of who we end up playing, it I mean, it feels like it's probably much for muchness.
00:15:29
DailySaintsPod
You know, all of the teams are going to be a tough match. But finishing third or fourth means we get that second leg at home and that's important. But it's you know it's not as do or die of, well, we need to win every game, so we try and get the automatics, which gives us perhaps the opportunity to to properly handle some of that fatigue and make sure that heading into the playoffs and potentially an FA Cup final, that we are you know dealing ourselves the best hand for those games that
00:16:03
DailySaintsPod
that are now the important ones.
00:16:05
Zak
Well, I think it wasn't also like due to a lack of trying. We obviously had a lot of subs and stuff today.
00:16:10
Zak
how did you How did you make some of those substitutions? Other the one that confused everybody, where at one point Laren was coming off and then it turns out it was actually Archer. And and that was that was a fun bit of confusion for no reason whatsoever.
00:16:23
Zak
but obviously, you know...
00:16:34
DailySaintsPod
But yeah I think I'm
00:16:39
DailySaintsPod
and just reminding myself of what the the actual substitution orders were.
Playoff Position Strategies
00:16:43
DailySaintsPod
Yeah, so what we got Leo and Fellows on in it just before the 60-minute mark, which makes sense.
00:16:51
DailySaintsPod
that' Pushing them in the wide areas was where we were always going to create our chances because that was you know where they were giving us the space to do it. So bringing on players like Leo and Tom, whether that...
00:17:05
DailySaintsPod
quality is there. i mean, it spoke for itself, really, that an excellent assist from Fellows for the Ross Stewart equaliser.
00:17:15
DailySaintsPod
Yeah, it was... that Yeah, no no issues with that. And then Yander on for Azaz and Stewart on for Bree.
00:17:26
DailySaintsPod
I mean, that was just us throwing throwing things at it, right? We were not...
00:17:33
DailySaintsPod
it was like It was the active decision of, I would rather lose this game trying to win them than settle for a draw.
00:17:45
DailySaintsPod
which Which I guess makes sense in the context of trying to do you know everything we could possibly do to to go for automatics. Which is partially why I think it's like a blessing in disguise, right? Because now we don't have to...
00:17:59
DailySaintsPod
throw the kitchen sink at it every game we can you know we still need to win those games but it's not as it's not like full on cup final levels of pressure to win you know like a point against the Ipswich and beating Preston is is probably enough to guarantee at least fourth which is which is good enough I think i mean we went up from fourth last time so why not
00:18:27
DailySaintsPod
And then, uh, and then brag on for downs.
Resilience and Unbeaten Streak Positives
00:18:30
DailySaintsPod
It was fine.
00:18:32
Zak
I think, I think, uh, Bragg put in a really good little cameo performance. He was definitely one of the, towards the end, obviously having very fresh legs was one of the key trying to drive it forward.
00:18:43
Zak
And I think that was just, yeah, I just think it it was just a bit off today. And I think that the team effort and the team spirit shone through to be able to even get the two goals and to be able to fight back.
00:18:56
DailySaintsPod
but't i just I don't even know if I would say it was off. like There were some signs of fatigue through the squad, but I just think that Bristol came and gave us a really good game. And on the face of it, looking back at the game, trying to take emotion out of it, which is not my specialty, to be fair.
00:19:12
Zak
yeah I struggle with that, mate.
00:19:15
Zak
I don't know if you can tell.
00:19:16
DailySaintsPod
draw is probably a fair result for how the game played out.
00:19:22
Zak
Even after the first goal that they that we scored, you turned and said, I don't really think we deserve that, but I'll take it.
00:19:22
DailySaintsPod
Bristol...
00:19:27
DailySaintsPod
Yeah, well, yeah, I mean, look, it came from a set piece and it was another excellent Ryan Manning delivery into Laren, you know, who was never going to miss.
00:19:36
DailySaintsPod
So it's, it's yeah, it's fine, isn't it?
00:19:42
Zak
What more is there to say about a two-hour drama on a Tuesday night?
00:19:47
Zak
That's the thing, right? And and again, there's so much drama elsewhere.
00:19:48
DailySaintsPod
it it felt deleing It felt deflating because of how good we have been prior to this and because of the genuine belief that we were just going to win all of the games of the rest of the season.
00:20:00
DailySaintsPod
But actually, i think we there's still so many positives to take from it. 20 games unbeaten is crazy.
00:20:07
DailySaintsPod
like it's It's genuinely insane.
00:20:09
Zak
Two strikers scored goal apiece, mate.
00:20:12
Zak
That's like... okay What are the things we would have done to be able to achieve that last season?
00:20:20
DailySaintsPod
Yeah, like we conceded...
00:20:21
Zak
Strikers even scoring a goal.
00:20:23
DailySaintsPod
We conceded, a sure, a sloppy goal, but then didn't capitulate and went back and equalised twice.
00:20:31
Zak
Twice. that's That's the thing, right? is I guess when you look at it that way, it's even more mad.
00:20:34
DailySaintsPod
and and And you sort of see it shining through because when we scored that second goal, there was no doubt. Everyone believed we were going to go on and get the third. And, and you know, if we'd have played for another 10 minutes, maybe we would have, but...
00:20:48
DailySaintsPod
it Yeah, it was it is what it is. I hope that it becomes that blessing in disguise and that we, like's say, just now have to focus on on putting in the press best effort we can into those games that crucially matter.
00:21:04
Zak
yeah Plus a semi-final at Wembley on Saturday, mate.
00:21:07
DailySaintsPod
Yeah, buzzing.
00:21:07
Zak
like let's not forget Let's not forget that.
00:21:10
DailySaintsPod
hope that's coming up.
00:21:10
Zak
That's that's you know that's that's coming out of the out the woodwork. That would be really exciting and and a great thing for us to you know have in the bank, regardless of whatever comes of this season.
00:21:21
Zak
and We are having to discuss all possibilities because we've got to try and plan content around it. That's hard enough as it is.
00:21:29
DailySaintsPod
Well, that's it, right?
Gratitude and Future Prospects
00:21:32
DailySaintsPod
Because as it stands currently, there are genuinely like three different leagues we could be playing in next year.
00:21:41
DailySaintsPod
its not It's not out of the question, is it? Yeah.
00:21:44
Zak
No, you're right. right it's until it's Until it's not, it is genuinely a thing that that can take place, but...
00:21:49
DailySaintsPod
look forward to trying to squeeze in a Tuesday night championship game and a Thursday night European away a day into our schedule. Yeah.
00:21:58
Zak
oh but But yeah, I just think that I guess the overall overarching feeling that actually have being home and you know enjoying a nice Tuesday night of football, seeing two really good goals...
00:22:15
Zak
is i guess grateful because when I say like enjoy the moments, enjoy the team, because this team in one way or another will not exist. Whether we go up or down, it will not be the same team come next season. But on top of that, grateful for the fact that as much as we have criticized Sports Republic and as much as there is a lot of valid criticism there,
00:22:36
Zak
you know, we are not looking down the barrel of League One
Club Legacy and Community Appreciation
00:22:42
Zak
after winning the Premier League a decade ago.
00:22:45
Zak
We are not looking, you know, these stories are emerging across the football leagues, right? You've got like, even in the Premier League, you've got like Tottenham and everything that's going on there. And it's just like, man, you know what?
00:22:56
Zak
I'm really glad I was born in this little tiny city on the south coast and get to support this very, very like wonderful, you know, club. family club.
00:23:07
Zak
You obviously have Mick Shannon on half-time today giving a lovely little...
00:23:11
DailySaintsPod
Yeah, fantastic to hear from him.
00:23:11
Zak
That was really, really nice to hear from him, you know, talking about how how important Saints is to him and how important it is to the city and how important it the people.
00:23:22
Zak
And yeah i just, I guess, grateful.
00:23:24
DailySaintsPod
And then a half-time game from three blokes who are never making it anywhere near even a five-a-side team.
00:23:29
Zak
My favourite was your son being like, I don't understand, it's not hard, just kick it in the middle.
00:23:34
DailySaintsPod
Yeah, you got wrong.
00:23:34
Zak
which which quite frankly was the most simplistic way to explain what needed to be done.
Final Match Reflections and Positives
00:23:41
Zak
Yeah, it's again, great grateful, I guess is where I'm at overall.
00:23:44
Zak
And as said, yep, okay, it's not the best. Would have loved to win. Would have loved to still had the, you know, the idea that we could have gone up by the automatics. It's not like our former goalkeeper did anything to, I say former, still technically part of us, but I feel bad for Baz, man, because like that, that wasn't a very good goal to concede.
00:24:06
DailySaintsPod
It's been it's been a long emotional rollercoaster of a game. but look, we've got to stick to the positives. That's what we do on this show.
00:24:16
DailySaintsPod
Confirmed playoffs.
00:24:20
DailySaintsPod
20 games unbeaten. How can you not be feeling positive about that?
00:24:24
Zak
You didn't lose to Bristol City, who have broken both of the unbeaten streaks in recent memory.
00:24:29
DailySaintsPod
Exactly. And frankly, that, to me, yeah, that, I mean, honestly, Bristol City, to feel like, probably the scariest team we're playing this week, right?
00:24:30
Zak
Wembley semi-final on Saturday versus City.
00:24:41
DailySaintsPod
Definitely.
Listener Engagement and Podcast Support
00:24:43
Zak
going to do it. Why not? It's going to be fine.
00:24:46
DailySaintsPod
But look, that is all we have got time for today. So listen, and let us know your feelings and your thoughts on the game in the comments, on the socials. We are Daily Saint Pod absolutely everywhere.
00:25:12
DailySaintsPod
We will be back tomorrow for a slightly more put together, slightly less late night episode where we talk some things football or Saints.
00:25:22
DailySaintsPod
I don't know. We'll work out.
00:25:23
Zak
This is entirely if we if both of us have our voices.
00:25:23
DailySaintsPod
But that's it.
00:25:27
Zak
I think there's a lot...
00:25:27
DailySaintsPod
Yeah. probably mean But until then, everyone, i have a wonderful day. Remember, 20 games unbeaten is still incredible.
00:25:37
DailySaintsPod
And until then, have a great day.