Part 1- Chris is a dad of 3 with Logan who is one of those aged 10. Chris is an amazing ‘dadvocate’ because like me feels that dads in these situations are so quiet and can be forgotten. We discuss how we both suppressed our grief and trauma. He was able to tap into it and realize this, but it took a couple of years. Childhood leukaemia was another massive hurdle for both him and his wife which brings us on to the topic of ‘shared trauma’ and how it can play out as husband and wife. Please check out these links about Noonan Syndrome they are very informative and helpful. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1oAxxukuzh0Risln0iKOSNICb1wjsHQrg/view https://rasopathiesnet.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/265_Noonan_Guidelines.pdf https://wessland.com/noonansyndrome.htm This episode is real and raw and how Chris felt and still feels sometimes. His empathy is just so powerful and you will enjoy this episode so much. Please share it with those who may need to hear two dads talking about their journey with kids with extra needs.