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You Should Listen to Depression Cherry by Beach House
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On this episode of You Should Listen to This: Bat makes Tanner listen to Depression Cherry by Beach House for the first time.
Bat will take Tanner's hand and guide him through this modern dream pop classic. We discuss each song and what makes this album so special to Bat, as well as millions of others. Let's hope Tanner likes it.
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Transcript
Mysterious Episode Opening
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Coming to you live from sunny Los Angeles, California. I'm that I'm Tanner, but I'm not in Los Angeles. So I'm not coming to anyone from Los Angeles. Where are you? It's a secret Oh From a secret location but still coming to you live. It's Tanner Tanner Hey
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Speaker
Anyways.
Introduction to Depression Cherry
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This is the much anticipated episode two. Last episode and episode one, I left you with your album. And now we're back to discuss Beach House's Depression Cherry. Yes, we are.
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2015. Depression Cherry came out in 2015. It's their fifth album. I'm not going to set the scene for you of 2015 because it's not exactly relevant. Although 2015 is the year that I graduated high school. Me too.
00:01:19
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the year that we graduated high school. And luckily, there's like so much that I don't remember from that time. I think that I was just getting into Beach House, so I believe that this would have been their most recent album. Actually, you know what? I just realized the album that follows this one, Thank Your Lucky Stars, also came out in 2015.
00:01:45
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But this was definitely this is definitely the album that resonated with me. It's the only one that I have all of the songs saved. I know it the best out of all other records, aside from one of their newer records. But at the time, this was this was kind of my I don't know what to compare it to, because to me, it's like this is my depression cherry. You know what I mean? Can I ask you something? Yeah, of course.
00:02:14
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What is depression, Cherry?
Significance of the Album Title
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What does that mean? I have no idea what that even means. Right. OK, so it's kind of up to interpretation. Oh, my God, I didn't even introduce you to I didn't even introduce you to Beach House.
Meet Beach House
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Beach House is made up of I don't know if you know Victoria Legrand and that other guy. There's two people.
00:02:37
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Yeah, speech house is a duo. I don't I mean, absolutely no disrespect to Alex. It's Victoria Legrand and Alex scally. When I looked at my notes, I realized wait a second, I don't remember how to say his last name. But I think it's scally. If I'm saying that wrong, I'm just gonna be embarrassing myself this entire
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podcast episode, but I think that that's fine. So yeah, Beach House is a musical duo made up of Victoria Legrand and Alex Scali. Victoria is the primary vocalist. Of course, you hear her vocals the most and Alex's vocals are much more rare. He's the guitarist and she or Victoria, she does
00:03:23
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Primarily vocals, also keyboards, and she does the organ. There's a lot of organ in depression, not the depression chart, in Beach House's music. I don't know if that's something that you picked up on while listening. I think so. We can get into the instrumentation, but I had a hard time differentiating instruments throughout the album, which is, you know, I'm not saying that's a bad thing.
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It
Unique Instrumentation Discussion
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just feels like these instruments are so, the way they're playing these and the way they're crafting these sounds, the instruments become unrecognizable to me. So I didn't even know that there was an organ, but that makes sense. I can hear it.
00:04:02
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Back to giving you the little rundown on Beach House, Victoria and Alex are both friends. They're like musical soulmates, friend soulmates. They are really are very much like a duo, which I really love.
00:04:20
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So they're not, they're platonic. Um, but I just wanted to, in case you were wondering. So I think that's a good rundown of, of beach house. They're both from Baltimore and are very much like of that area. They're very Baltimore.
00:04:36
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Yeah, Victoria Legrand. She is French originally, but she later moved to Baltimore. But I when did you maybe I missed it, but when did when did you hear this album when it came out? So this album came out in like fall 2015. Yeah, I would have I would have heard this album when it came out, to be quite honest.
00:05:03
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I don't even think I remember the first time I listened to the album. I just remember pieces of all the times that I've listened to this album. I
Impact of Album Imagery
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think I don't remember the very beginning because I've listened to it throughout my adult life since it came out right before I turned 18. So I've had this album living with me. When I saw the title of the album, the album art
00:05:30
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It just fit. I just knew, like, I saw Depression Cherry immediately. I love it. Like, I get it. And I don't think I've ever thought... You asked me, what is Depression Cherry? What does that mean? For me, I've never... I don't think I've ever questioned what that meant until doing the research for this podcast, because it clicked immediately when I saw it. Like, when I read it, Depression Cherry, I just thought, yeah, totally. I get it. You know what I mean?
00:05:59
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Interesting. Okay. So what did you find out in your research though? Like I said, Depression Cherry, the title is up to interpretation. So Victoria, she just kind of came up with these two words. The phrase, she says that the phrase just came to her rather serendipitously. And when they went to search for these two words combined online, they didn't seem to appear next to each other. They just liked the uniqueness of it?
00:06:28
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Well, the words just like it basically it just spoke to her like it just kind of like it just came to her mind and they like it's just a phrase that resonated. Yeah, exactly. And that really makes sense for me. I think if you listen to the album to me, it makes sense, the title.
Personal Resonance with the Album
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And then you look at the album art, which I don't know if you know, but the the vinyl cover, it's
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I feel like I've told you this before, it's a red velvet, so that's why digitally it kind of looks a little bit like static-y and it's not just a pure red. And I think that the red velvet not only fits the title really well, but it really, to me, it sets the tone for the album when you listen to it, when I listen to the music. Just this void of red velvet kind of covers me, covers my mind and bellips me.
00:07:24
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And that's the lens that I view the music through, and that's also the way that I feel the music, if that makes sense.
00:07:32
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You know, that's, that's really interesting that you say red velvet and obviously I immediately think of cake. You know, this, this album feels like a dessert album. It feels like it's, um, it's sweet and sugary and, um, Wow. I would have never thought. The last song is called Days of Candy. You know, it feels like there's a lot of, a lot of sweetness here. It, it, it feels like, um, eating an ice cream Sunday alone at 1 AM.
00:07:57
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that is such an interesting interpretation i've never thought of it in that way but i love it i love your point of view going off of what we're talking about with the title i just wanted to say pitchfork called the title silly and inexplicable but i think for many beach house fans the title hits home when i first heard of the title i felt
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scene. Not only, you know, am I someone who's dealt with and continues to deal with depression, but I'm also a fan of cherries. Yeah. Cherry cherries are so good. I love cherries. Yeah. I mean, I love the aesthetic of the cherry. I don't know. Like just to me, like maraschino cherries.
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I like cherries much more in an aesthetic sense than eating it, but yes, sorry. I don't know, just to me, it makes so much sense. Cherry, this thing that's so sweet of the summer, also so dark, such a dark red, and you put that with depression.
00:08:59
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It just, I think it fits so well because it's not really expected. Like I said, I felt seen when I heard this title, when I read this, I was just like, yes, that's me. I get it. I'm a depression cherry. And I think for there's probably a lot of Beach House fans out there, at least I hope that are just like, yes, yeah, that title is just it just fits. It just makes sense without, you know, having to look any further. I think if you're
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If you're a girly, you understand depression, Cherry. Maybe you're just not a girly. Well, I mean, I get that. There's definitely been things that are closer to an abstract collection of words rather than a whole thought. Oftentimes, I connect with that. There's something about a
00:09:46
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some words matching together and it might mean nothing but it means something to you and for some reason it resonates for some reason it sticks in your head for some reason it it feels like something that i don't know just something that makes sense to you but you don't know why it makes sense to you so i've experienced that so i get what you're saying
00:10:07
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I'm glad you understand. The other thing that I wanted to say that Pitchfork mentioned is that of Beach House. Their albums might be an ideal soundtrack for daydreaming, but Scali and Legrand seem remarkably clear-headed about their work.
00:10:23
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So that's just like a little excerpt from the review or a review on on Depression Cherry. And when I read this, I thought, you know, to the untrained ear, Beach House may seem ripe for daydreaming. But once you dive into their music, I think the daydream turns more into a waking nightmare. Well, intense. OK.
00:10:45
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Yeah, it's a little bit dramatic, but I think that that is what Depression Cherry is. Dramatic title, dramatic cover. It's very dramatic and cinematic.
00:10:58
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It's cinematic for sure. I definitely got the cinematic vibes. I didn't get to the nightmare part of it. Maybe I'm not familiar enough with Beach House to experience the nightmares. But I want to hear about why that is for you. I'm extremely curious.
00:11:17
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Well, let's dig in. Let's take a bite out of the depression cherry, if you will. Okay.
Exploration of Levitation
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Starting with the first track, Levitation. I actually would love to hear your thoughts on this first track before I go into the story.
00:11:34
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So I made some notes about a lot of things, about all the tracks, et cetera, et cetera. And I first listened to this album while I was driving on my way to see you in LA, actually. And I was approaching the grapevine as the sun was going down. And that is how I listened to this album for the first time.
00:11:55
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I had a difficult time paying attention the first time because I was driving through the grapevine. But like, you know, you told me that it's a good album to listen to at sunset. And I tried to really take that in. And I just took in the musicality of the album before I listened to the lyrics, I guess.
00:12:14
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I've listened to this album now. It's hard to count, maybe 10 times I've listened to it now. And for me, Levitation, I said it sounds like the most beach house beach house song there is. And it's good and it's enjoyable, but it just doesn't do anything for me. The song obviously it gets more interesting when that electric guitar comes in and that sets the musical tone for the album. But I
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I could not tell you what the song is about even after reading the lyrics and listening to it a lot of times. I mean, in general, I can't understand her singing and the lyrics are pretty out there. And so I have a hard time interpreting what she's trying to say.
00:12:57
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Yeah, I don't know. Beach House for me was always a vibes band. It was something you put on for vibes, for daydreaming, like you said. I thought they were speaking a foreign language. I listened to Bloom, one of their other albums back in the day, and I thought they were French or something. It didn't sound like English to me. I was like, I don't listen to the lyrics here because what is she saying? I feel like I got a lot of that on Levitation, but I really, really enjoyed the music of it.
00:13:25
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Well, that's not all bad. Throughout the album, I have a hard time interpreting her lyrics the entire time. I don't know what the songs are about usually, and I don't know what this album is about usually, because it's just very abstract, you know? And I tried to read the albums. I didn't go on Genius or anything, and I didn't look up interpretations, because I wanted to hear it from you. I only looked at lyrics. I didn't do any research beyond that.
00:13:50
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right and so yeah that's just that's just you know how i feel about uh this album and levitation all right all right um okay yeah that's that makes sense i mean i i think i told you that the way that i would listen to beach house was i i would put it on when i first heard it i thought oh this would be good music to read to
00:14:14
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you know, it all kind of sounds the same. It's very like mellow. And then I kept kind of putting their music on and the more that I heard it, the more the patterns became evident to me. And I couldn't focus on anything else because I was listening to it and I would remember the music. And so that is how I first started to listen to Beach House. I liked the sounds, but I couldn't
00:14:40
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go further than the surface until my brain was kind of more familiar with the patterns. And then I could hear the details much more. So you started in a similar place as me then someone that at first thought it was vibes music. Yeah, yeah, pretty much definitely not like well, for me, you know, I have vibes music has a has a negative connotation for me. But Oh, okay. I didn't know that.
00:15:08
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For me, definitely vibes, but melancholic vibes, sad vibes, moody. Maybe not sad, but moody for sure. Mellow, but a little bit tinged with sadness, which makes sense because when I was first listening to it, I was depressed, the type of depressed where you don't really listen to a lot of happy music. The type where it's like, oh, is this sad music? To me, it's just music.
00:15:34
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I definitely, where I'm at right now, I don't listen to Beach House a lot or I can't just put it on because it really does hold all of this emotion within it. And this opening track, I think this is one of the greatest album openers and it's a beautifully haunting tribute. This song, Levitation, is about the tragic deaths of 19-year-old Elizabeth and Rose of
00:16:00
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Ellicott City. I think that's how you say it. I'm so sorry. So these two 19 year old girls were sitting on a railroad bridge when a passing train derailed and they were they were killed due to the impact. I think it was like a coal train. They were crushed when the train was derailed. One of the girls tweeted a photo of both of their feet dangling above the ground on the bridge with the caption levitating.
00:16:30
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Okay, okay. So this song is about them? Yes, yeah. It's like a tribute song. It's about this, I guess. I don't want to say it's about their death, but it's about what happened to them. Why? I'm curious as to why Beach House saw this and was like, a song should be written.
00:16:55
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Well, Ellicott City is a city in Maryland. They're from Baltimore, which is also in Maryland. I can't really tell you why, because it's not like I know them personally, but it makes sense to me. It's so haunting. These two girls, they're 19 years old. They're sitting on this bridge. They're young. They have their youth.
00:17:16
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their friends at night they're sitting on this bridge in their city with their feet dangling above the road and it's like they have so much life ahead of them, they have so much wonder and curiosity I'm sure as something that you have with youth.
00:17:36
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They're being kids. They're being young girls. And out of the blue, in a way, because the train was derailed, it just happened to happen. They were in the wrong place at the wrong time. It killed them.
00:17:50
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It shows the cruel randomness that is this life. Yeah. And just such like innocence as well. I think that this album is as incredible. It's sonic nostalgia, I think. And I think it's such a beautiful opening to the album because this song is so beautiful, but it's about such a tragic event. And these two beautiful girls who were taken too soon and
00:18:16
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right at the beginning of their lives. They're adults, they're 19 friends, and they're together. It's just perfect. To me, it's incredible. Before I knew what this song was about, I knew it was about friendship, that kind of innocence, that coming of age, I knew it was about that. But before reading, I didn't know how devastating it was.
00:18:42
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It only felt devastating to me because of what I've been through and what I feel when I listen to the track. But if you listen, the very start of the song reminds me of a train coming. That's what it sounds like to me. The way that it sounds distant, but the sound builds as if the train's coming closer. And there's so many haunting lyrics. You should see there's a place I want to take you. When the train comes, I will hold you.
00:19:11
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Yeah. Wow. And then on the bridge levitating because we want to, you know, you're young. It's we want to go sit on that bridge and tweet a photo of us and say, you know, that we're levitating. I think that's so haunting that they tweeted that that photo. And I don't know, I could just picture the joy. You know, it's we're on this bridge. We're levitating.
00:19:37
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And then also levitation. For me, I hear it as like when your soul leaves your body. Okay, yeah, I hear that. I mean, this is all very interesting to me. Definitely makes the lyrics make a lot more sense. And this is something that I think comes with a lot of their songwriting. Their lyrics feel like they are random, sporadic thoughts, ideas, rather than
00:20:05
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a single story being told, at least that's how it was for me. And so hearing you say this, I was like, wow, well, that's good to know because I read the lyrics for this song and I'm like, is she just saying random things? Like what is happening? So I'm really grateful to hear this.
00:20:21
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I kind of see it as that way too. That's why I say it's very cinematic because it's giving you a lot of images. She deals a lot in imagery and there might not always be a clear narrative, but I know that there's bits and pieces of the music and the lyrics, the songs themselves. There's bits and pieces that I connect with and I get. If I don't get the whole song or the whole story, there's just those pieces and I'm like, I get what this is.
00:20:51
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Oh yeah, I'm not saying it's a bad thing. No, no, I know. I'm just saying. Yeah. But yeah, there's a place I want to take you when the unknown will surround you. It's very iconic to me in my mind and in my life. To me, it's like there's a place I want to take you, which is like the bridge. Just let's go to the bridge. I want to take you to this place. But then also, there's a place I want to take you when the unknown will surround you.
00:21:20
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like it's also like taking you to the other side of life like in death. I want to take you with me where the unknown will surround you.
00:21:30
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It's really heavy. It's beautiful. And I think if you listen to this with the sunset, because to me, she says after midnight, we could feel it all. So it's very much like this song kind of takes place at midnight in a way. But in my mind, the sun is setting and everything is gold. When I listen to this song, the song is just like the sun setting. It's gold. And towards the end, it's dark.
00:21:58
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Yeah, wow. I mean, yeah, that makes the song a lot darker, you know, in my mind, obviously, because I thought it was just vibes. But yeah, that's that's heartbreaking.
00:22:12
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that story that the tragedy, I think it is really horrible. And I think, like I said, this is such a beautiful tribute to them. It's a beautiful song. And I mean, I'm sure that when they play it and when people hear it, they think of those girls. And so it's like keeping their memory alive, connecting them with so many more people, so many more lives.
00:22:36
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I really love it. I don't listen to this song often, but I know all the parts to it. I know it so well.
00:22:44
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, like I said, just in terms of musicality, I think it's a great opener, but knowing what it's about, that's huge. Yeah, I really wanted to share that with you. I just think it's amazing. I could go on and on about how incredible it is, but I think we should talk about the next track, Sparks.
Mystery and Emotion in Sparks
00:23:02
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Yes. Because it's just a spark. Yeah. And then it's dark again. Oh, you know. Yeah.
00:23:12
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Yeah, so this is probably the most shoe-gazy of tracks in Beach House's discography, or one of them at least. My good friend Nick and I, we always wanted to know what the sample was in the intro. I don't know if you remember or have it like anywhere. It's a sample? The guitar? No, the like vocal sample. Oh. It's like.
00:23:42
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Yeah, I guess I never... Yeah, okay. You can't really make out what the words are, but you know that something is being said. Okay, I just listened to it. I hear it now. I know what you're talking about exactly. Yeah, so Nick and I always, we always were like, what could it be? What is it? And I would, sometimes I would text him, I'd be like, I really want to know what
00:24:01
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She's saying like, what is the sample? It's not a sample from anything else. It's a sample of like Victoria that they, you know, it's their own organic sample. But apparently Alex and Victoria don't remember like what she was saying. They don't remember what it was.
00:24:16
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That's funny. Yeah. But for me, my brain has landed on so glad you're high, which doesn't really sound exactly like what's being said, but my brain is just like, so glad you're high, just so good. That's just what
00:24:31
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I hear when I listen to it, and that's kind of like what I sing, but I don't know what it is, and I really want to know. Interesting, okay. Yeah. So that's what I hear when I listen to it, but I love this track. I love like bleeding guitars. You know, everybody knows Space Song. I'm really surprised that Sparks doesn't have the same like fame as Space Song. I know that Space Song's more palatable, but for me like Sparks is like, it's just got that thing.
00:25:01
Speaker
Well, can I talk about my thoughts on the song? Oh, yeah, of course. Do you still have more to know? No, I don't really have an intro. I want to hear what that that's all I had to say. You know, I want it. I want to hear your thoughts. OK, this is easily my favorite song on the album without a doubt. Yeah. I mean, as soon as I heard that first electric guitar hit, I knew I'd be in and then the drums come in and these dissonance synths.
00:25:30
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And it's all this background noise and that vocal sample plays into that wall of noise as well. And I think this is, musically speaking, the most interesting song on the album. And it's the only song that gets stuck in my head, really.
00:25:46
Speaker
You know, again, at first I had a hard time connecting with the lyrics, mostly because I had no idea what she was singing about. She's just saying things. But I always catch myself singing, and then it's dark again, just randomly.
00:26:05
Speaker
And I wrote down, I was like, love is like a spark. It's there one second and gone the next. I guess that was my interpretation. But I'm in love with this instrumental. This one has definitely been in the rotation. And yeah, it's closer to a shoegaze track. And I think that's probably why I like it. I don't know. I love the guitar. The guitar is, and the synth, the synth when,
00:26:34
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during the verses. I don't know, something about it is just very nice to me. Yes, I mean, of course, I completely agree. I love this track. When I hear it, it's just like, oh, it's so satisfying. I love the guitar. I love the distortion. I love the wall of sound, which feels more like a
00:26:53
Speaker
Not like a wall, but like it like it wraps around you. I think I feel like I hear it on all sides. I hear the layers. So it's not just like one wall of sound. It's like it envelops you and it's like static, you know, distorted and it's super moody, which I love. And I think that Sparks is a great track to go into from levitation.
00:27:19
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The opening for me sounds like not childhood, but like teenage hood. We drive around this town. House is melting down. It's like, you know, kind of like you're stuck in a town. You want to get out and your interpretation of spark. I think that it can apply like so many things. Also, just like a spark and then it vanishes. You know, that's like life love anything in life. You know, there's there's so much that it can be applied to. I don't I don't know.
00:27:49
Speaker
what exactly it's about and I don't think that you have to know because it's about what you feel when you listen to it and what what it means to you I think but I love the lyrics and then again in the bridge she says you go to school you follow all the rules you live inside that just makes me think of of course like being a teenager
00:28:12
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growing up, going to school, following the rules. You're living in this box, you're living in this town. For me, Sparks is like, you know, you pick up your friend and you're driving around listening to this song and you're both just like, I'm so sick of my life and you know where I'm at and I just want to like break free.
00:28:35
Speaker
And I think that even when you're an adult, you can relate to that feeling, not just something that you feel growing up. We all feel stuck or just feel moody and emotional. And there's so much around you. And I think that the track itself gives that feeling. There's so much going on. There's so many layers, so much emotion. And
Space Song's Universal Appeal
00:28:59
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I think we all carry that with us, at least everyone I know.
00:29:04
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yeah no absolutely but yeah i'm glad that you i'm glad that you liked this song um as much as you did and yeah it's definitely a beautiful gem yes definitely definitely a gem yeah and now the song that everybody and their mom knows and loves almost a billion streams on spotify
00:29:26
Speaker
space song if you if you've only ever heard one beach house song this is probably it it's a staple song but i personally love it so much more within the context of the album it's a great standalone track but you're doing yourself a disservice if you have yet to listen to its surrounding tracks
00:29:46
Speaker
Obviously, this was a beach house song that I knew before this project. And it's still a song that I love, always has been. It's a song I've known for years. And this is another one of those songs that, and I say this a lot, it sounds like a beach house song. I mean, in the best way possible.
00:30:07
Speaker
There's this guitar that is in every, almost every Beach House song, this wailing, whining guitar that they always use, or whatever the instrument is. I don't even know what the instrument is, but it's in every song and it's their commitment to it.
00:30:23
Speaker
It's really interesting and sometimes it isn't for me but in this song it feels right and I like it and her vocals, her vocals might be my favorite on the album because it feels like she has energy whereas usually it feels like she has no energy.
00:30:40
Speaker
That could be just because her vocals are mixed a lot higher on this song, as opposed to a lot of the other songs. It feels like her vocals are mixed into that wall of sound, where this, it feels like the vocals have more of a starring role. This is the first time on the album that I hear her singing with an amount of interest. And I love this song. It's good. I mean, it's no sparks.
00:31:03
Speaker
But in terms of the best beach house songs, this is obviously up there. And it's very evocative. It feels like there's real meaning behind it. I don't know the meaning. I'm waiting for you to tell me about that. And I think the outro to this song is awesome, but I don't know what it means. And it feels like she's just kind of saying thoughts again and stringing them over some good instrumentals.
00:31:33
Speaker
You know, I'm a little disappointed that you don't have any interpretation of these songs because to me, they read a lot like poems and very much like I said, like movies. And so, you know, there's no like little bits, little lines here and there that make you think like, oh, this makes me think that it could be about this or, you know.
00:31:54
Speaker
oh yes i mean that well that's the thing that's what i mean there's moments there's like two or three lines of lyrics that presents something that tell me something that even tell a little tiny story or something um but for me like these pieces these lines of lyrics
00:32:13
Speaker
They don't always connect to each other within a song. She doesn't use a lot of personal pronouns. She doesn't say I. She doesn't say we. She doesn't do that a lot. In this song, she's saying you, she. She's not referring to herself. It's interesting. It feels like she's always talking about people that aren't her.
00:32:34
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I don't sense the personal aspect of it. It doesn't feel very personal because it always feels like she's talking about other people.
00:32:46
Speaker
Oh, that's that's an interpretation. That's really interesting. For me, I think she I think it is personal. I think she's talking about not you or I or we. Well, I guess it would be we because I think she is talking about us. You know, it's how she feels. It's how you feel. It's how everyone feels. And I think that's part of why I feel so connected.
00:33:10
Speaker
to Beach House and their music and Victoria's lyrics and the way that she writes them because I kind of feel like when I listen to Beach House it's like it's not a duo it's a trio you know I'm there too.
00:33:25
Speaker
you know like like it's about me you know she's writing songs about me she's writing songs about herself it all connects and i think that you know not in a parasocial way but it's just in just this way that like we all feel we all have the same emotions and capacity in a way to of experience and to feel all these things and it's making that connection like reaching through the music
00:33:49
Speaker
Because of the music reaching through to connect to these people who you've never met You know, it's a community. That's how I it's not really how I look at the music That's how I feel it like it. I don't think about it. It just is that way and I think that's why I can't like I
00:34:07
Speaker
really even give you a full interpretation of the lyrics because it's like a mirror when I listen to the music. It just matches. I just see it and I feel it. But there are some great lines in Space Song. I agree. There are some great lines in Space Song.
00:34:25
Speaker
One of my favorites is Tender is the Night for a Broken Heart. I think that standalone is great but the whole bit that it's a part of, who will dry your eyes when it falls apart. When I am like sad and lonely and I hear this it just kind of shatters me and it makes me cry because you know who's there to dry my eyes when it falls apart. Like me as a teenager just alone in my room it's really just it just hits you hard but
00:34:55
Speaker
Yeah, and then the fall back into place. Whenever I hear this song and fall back into place, it's like, I want to fall back into place. Like you feel like broken or I just feel like I feel broken and I just want to fall back into place. I wrote down that line. Yeah, I like that one too.
00:35:18
Speaker
Yeah, and the way that it's presented and the end where it's just kind of repeating like a pattern, you know, falling back into the pattern back into place. It just it just kind of means something different to I think whenever I'm listening to it, just depending on what I'm feeling at the time. But musically,
00:35:38
Speaker
I totally understand why this is such a big song. You know, sometimes I want to think like, oh, space song. Yeah, it's a great song. But I don't think that it's overrated. I just think that to only pay attention to space song from Beach House, that's definitely overrated because this song is incredible. The synth is amazing. The arpeggio is beautiful. But
00:36:02
Speaker
you know i i really like it within the album i think it sits really well it fits it's it's like depression sherry the album is space songs family so please you know give the whole album a chance but yes also the other thing that i wanted to say i don't know if you noticed but my favorite part is like around the 420 mark when the the other arpeggio synth comes in to finish out the song
00:36:30
Speaker
um before before she's just saying fall back into place over and over again she says fall back into place and then it it echoes and then there's a there's a moment where this other like rolling synth comes in it's like oh okay
00:36:52
Speaker
gotcha. And I just I think that's like an incredible moment, because it's not present in the rest of the song, it just kind of comes in at the end and really carries throughout carries you through the outro. And
00:37:07
Speaker
It really makes, well, it really makes me feel as if I'm like falling into a pool of like liquidy velvet emotion, because it's kind of like a wave, you know, the way the sin arpeggiates or however you would say that.
00:37:24
Speaker
It does what it does, and it just flows. I love that. I don't hear anyone talking about it because it's like, how are you going to talk about that? I'm saying it here. I love that part. Pay attention to that part when you listen to the song. Okay. I'll know that because it's in my music.
00:37:45
Speaker
Awesome. Are you ready to go beyond love? Yeah, let's go beyond love.
Beyond Love's Cinematic Quality
00:37:52
Speaker
I love beyond love. This is one of my kind of one of my favorite beach house songs. I think it's an underrated beach house song. It really reminds me of a David Lynch movie based on like the lyrics and the imagery. Oh, okay.
00:38:07
Speaker
Yeah, it's a little bit to me, it's got like this little bit of unnerving sound and lyricism. But it also sounds sweet. And it's and it's a love song. And I think it's really lovely. And also it, it feels very like old timey, I think. Okay, yeah. Well, how do you see the song? How did you feel about it?
00:38:28
Speaker
I immediately thought it just sounded like Space Song, which I guess is good. I mean, a lot of beach houses, obviously, hard to differentiate, hard to parse the information because, I don't know, it all feels very samey to me. But, you know, it feels like Space Song, but then they just replace the type of guitar and then change the keys and then like put her vocals back down super low.
00:38:50
Speaker
But halfway through the song, her vocals come back in, they raise her vocals up and she becomes easier to hear. And it allows me to hear the effects that they always put on her singing, you know, that echoey, whispery singing that she does. You know, this this was the first time that I was really listening closely to that because I never really understood it or vibed with it.
00:39:13
Speaker
I didn't like how many layers there were, which sounds stupid. It sounds really stupid. I just don't know how to listen to it. I just I don't know how to comprehend. Just I don't know it. I mean, this song, I think the lyrics are the most easy to understand out of the whole album, probably. I mentioned for Space Song, you know, her lack of using personal pronouns, but she's using personal pronouns in this song.
00:39:39
Speaker
And I think that's why it's easier for me to interpret these lyrics and hear what this song is about. It's interesting that, you know, the lyrics are the ones that make the most sense to me, but this is one of my least favorite tracks on the album. I'm not saying it's bad. None of the tracks on this album are bad, but it's just not one that I see myself coming back to.
00:40:00
Speaker
That's fair. I understand that. I love it, but I get what you're saying. This one also kind of has like a shoegaze element to it with the distorted guitars and everything. I really like this. Like I said, it's a love song, but it's kind of, it's very like,
00:40:22
Speaker
David Lynch, for me, it's really like Edward Scissorhands' neighborhood, like the suburbs with all the like colorful houses. But like at night, I just, you know, the way that she's like the first thing that I do before I get into your house, I'm going to tear off all the petals from the rose that's in your mouth. It's like, how do you like what? I love that, though. Like there's so much like attitude and like just really jumping down this guy's throat.
00:40:50
Speaker
What is a man in the corner with spiders made of light? What does that mean? Hey, don't get ahead of yourself now. I think about that line all the time because I'm like, what the fuck does that mean?
00:41:02
Speaker
I said it's very David Lynchian, you know? So is it okay? All right. Is it supposed to be taken literally? It's all like it's not no, no, it's not literally. It's not literally. Yeah. So the last thing that she sees before they turn off all the lights was there a man up in the corner with the spiders made of light.
00:41:21
Speaker
which when I first heard this, I thought it was spiders made of night and I was like, ooh, but then spiders made of light. I'm so sorry. I feel like I'm just going to be letting you down because I don't know what this is, but it just makes sense.
00:41:38
Speaker
Yeah, there. Yeah, I just I just picture like a guy in the corner, but he's like a spider as well. Like, I don't know. I see all this like dark imagery that is like a fever dream, which really kind of makes sense when you're talking about like love and whatnot, because it's a really beautiful nightmare. I think being in love, falling in love, leaving love. It's it's all about that. And you kind of got to be like sick in the head to like
00:42:07
Speaker
fall in love and be in love. Yeah. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah, absolutely. Yeah. So I think this is like a super poetic song, a lot of imagery, which I personally love and I really want to go beyond love. Yeah, you need to.
00:42:25
Speaker
Yeah, and I don't I don't know. I feel like a lot of people don't talk about this one, but I think it's really cool. It's really like, again, it's really cinematic. I would love to see like a music video or like a movie based on this because it is a lot of images and I want to see them like. Yeah, that would be that would be super interesting. Directed by David Lynch. Yeah, exactly. I would love that. I'd be ecstatic at a movie adaptation of Depression Cherry by David Lynch. That would be quite a project.
00:42:54
Speaker
I mean, that would be great. If you've seen Blue Velvet, it could be like that. I've never seen Blue Velvet. Well, maybe we'll have a movie night and watch it. Okie doke. We went beyond love. So, and now that we've gone there, the time is 10.37. Yeah. Okay. Good transition. Wow. Thank you. Good segue. Um, so yeah, so 10.37 is the center of the album. What I would call the vibe check.
00:43:24
Speaker
interesting okay okay i like that you said that yeah i do think it kind of switches up the tone and the sounds of the album but this was actually the first song that was that they finished for this album to me that makes sense because you know it's it's kind of it's kind of a minimal basic song in a way
00:43:50
Speaker
And Alex said that it informed the energy for the record. It kind of set the tone. So to me, it makes sense that from this song, it's in the middle and what is on the outside of it. The song's branched out from this center.
00:44:05
Speaker
It's
1037: The 'Vibe Check' Track
00:44:05
Speaker
so interesting that you said that. Why? Because every time I would listen to the album, 1037 would come up and that would usually be around the time that I'd get bored and have to take a break and finish the album later.
00:44:22
Speaker
I like that you called it a vibe check because I don't think I understood the vibes. This is a very slow, slumbering, sleepy track. It is. It's in the middle of the album and so it feels like the REM cycle of sleep.
00:44:42
Speaker
But again, what is this song even about? You know, what is 1037? This song feels like a Bjork or Enya song even. It feels like that in some ways. The way it's pretty stripped back, I mean, compared to other songs. It's a smooth track. It's very silky smooth. It is. To me, it's kind of like a lullaby. Yeah, yeah. And you know,
00:45:11
Speaker
Exactly. I was just gonna mention that part. Because to me, that feels like they're embracing the vibes. And I really appreciate that. Because like I've said multiple times, it's just been vibe music. And I was like, Oh, yeah, they're just vibing. Hell yeah. So I liked that, you know.
00:45:28
Speaker
To me, it is kind of like a lullaby. It has like this, I think it has this like little like sinister quality. Like it is very like relaxing and like, ah, you know, this is like a little sleepy track, but it's like, don't fall asleep though. I think I did fall asleep to this song.
00:45:48
Speaker
Okay. Well, it's like, to me, it's like, you know, it's like, oh, fall asleep. La la la. Because you will have a nightmare, you know, and we'll get you. Oh, interesting. Okay.
00:46:01
Speaker
That's what I get out of it sonically a little bit. Like not every time, not every time that I hear it, but I just, there's something about it that it doesn't feel. Also the way that she says like, it's, it's almost like, um, it feels a little haunting. Exactly. Yeah. It's a little bit sinister. It's a little bit like she's tricking you like everything's okay. But pulling, pulling the covers over your eyes or whatever.
00:46:29
Speaker
Yeah, I like the lyrics. I, you know, again, she just writes very like poetically and and also, you know, to go with the sound that's a little bit unnerving, like chances are like night you'll disappear. Yeah.
00:46:46
Speaker
You know, that's of course, you know, you can see that from a love aspect. Like I relate to that so hard. Like, of course, you're going to you're going to leave for my life. But also I think I feel like anyone could relate to it because anyone can interpret it in any way, I feel like.
00:47:04
Speaker
Yeah, but I'm saying like also it could be like, you know, chances are like night you'll disappear like you will be gone. I'll make you disappear. Oh, you know, because like I said, like, like I said, because it's got this like unnervingness and then we're coming out of beyond love, which had
00:47:21
Speaker
the man up in the corner with the spiders made of light like you know there's there's some haunting elements to depression cherry so i think that even within the sleepy calming almost soothing track there's still intrigue like i know that you fell asleep and you know you were getting a little bored but i think even if you want to say that it's like the
00:47:45
Speaker
you know, most boring track or the least good track on the album. It's still it's still it's still a great song. Like when I sometimes I'll just like hear it. It'll come up on shuffle and I'll listen to it. And I'm like, you know, this is still a great song, even if it's not the best off of the album. It's definitely one of the more intriguing songs from the album. It. Yeah, it's definitely intriguing. OK, that's positive. Yeah. Yeah.
00:48:13
Speaker
Can you tell me what 1037 is? Do you know? Yeah, so it's a time. Okay, thank you. Let's move on to the next song.
Emotional Depth of PPP
00:48:25
Speaker
PPP. This is one of my favorite Beach House songs. I knew this. And I absolutely love it. I knew this. How do you feel about it? What did you think upon listening to it?
00:48:40
Speaker
Obviously, I've heard this song many times since I've known you. Oh, what do you mean? Oh, you you're the one that plays it. I didn't realize that you were paying attention and that you've heard it so many times. Wow, thanks. Of course I'm paying attention.
00:48:58
Speaker
Jeez. Well, you say that Beach House is just vibes, so I would think that you'd be like, oh yeah, I've heard this. Well, I mean, yeah, I thought it was vibes. I thought you were putting on vibes. It's another one that I had a hard time connecting to for all the reasons I've already listed previously. But I think after a few listens,
00:49:21
Speaker
this song clicked for me. I think definitely it's the most interesting vocals on the album. And if I listen closely, I think I can understand what the song is about. Like I can listen to the lyrics and I'm like, oh, I know what's happening here, which is a different experience from the other.
00:49:40
Speaker
songs on this album I still don't know what PPP means I mean they love to name things random things I think 1037 depression cherry PPP but this song
00:49:53
Speaker
Well, okay, not random. This song is obviously filled with imagery, filled with metaphor, but it's less stupid. Sorry, not stupid. It's less esoteric on this song. It feels like it's easier to interpret.
00:50:14
Speaker
It feels like it makes more sense than her other lyrics. And I appreciate that. And I like the instrumental. And it sounds like a Beach House song, but there's a lot more interesting factors to this song than I think I initially thought. Okay, what's it about for you? You said that you have some like interpretation or you kind of know more about what this one's about?
00:50:37
Speaker
Let me let me let me just look at these lyrics here. I see I have a hard time just reading these lyrics and trying to interpret them now. Because I don't really remember what the song is about, right? Because I feel like that's okay. Yeah, you can you can look at it and reference it. That's what I do the whole time that we're recording.
00:50:55
Speaker
Did you see it coming? It happened so fast. The timing was perfect. Water on glass. It won't last forever. Maybe it will. The white clothes they gave you, you wear them so well. I mean, I think, you know, when I listen to this, this is just like two people connecting through some form of love. The universe put them together. And yeah, I don't know. It just feels like she's loving someone and
00:51:24
Speaker
It's almost like she's, um, warning them, warning them of how she loves. Yeah. But I want to hear what you have to say, because obviously you know more than me and you've listened to this song for years and it's one of your favorites. So I want to know. I like that. I like what you have to say about it. It makes sense for me. I mean, to put it plainly, to me, the song is about divorce. When I hear it, that's what I hear personally.
00:51:51
Speaker
I don't know. Interesting. I don't know that it is, but the song starts out with Out in the Heartland. I looked in your eyes and I asked, are you ready? Ready for this life? And to me, I kind of like reads like a vowel and also, you know, ready for this life. It's like our life together.
00:52:09
Speaker
And it could just be a relationship. It doesn't have to be like a marriage. But to me, it reminds me of like, we're going to start something, you know, are you ready? And so to me, you know, kind of starts like a like a vow. And did you say coming? It happens so fast. Like, you know, you fall in love and but also, you know, you fall out of love and that happens fast. You fall in love and then you're out. And, you know, I don't know that that's what it is, but it's evocative of that, I think.
00:52:37
Speaker
I hear you. Just real quick. I just want to say something really, really quick. The more I think about it, the more that it feels like it's the beginning of a relationship and she's talking about taking a risk with this person. It might not end pretty. This might end in heartbreak. This might be a shitty thing.
00:52:57
Speaker
But let's take the chances and try this thing out. You know, she says, and if this ice should break, it would be my mistake. And I hear that. I think, you know, I think of myself in that, you know, even things that are out of your control, things that aren't your fault, you still put that blame on yourself. You still
00:53:19
Speaker
think you're the reason that the ice broke and the person you love fell through. It's interesting. I really like the lyrics on this song for sure.
00:53:31
Speaker
You know, I love this. I love this song. I love this chorus. The way that she sings it too is kind of like this bitter like, yep, that's, it's my fault. You know, like what, what did I expect? Like tracing figure eights on ice in skates. Oh well. And if this ice should break, it would be my, my mistake. So it's like,
00:53:56
Speaker
I so relate to that. I feel that. I wish I could get that tattooed. It's a real clunky line. But like, I mean, you're doing something like that's gonna, it's risky, you know? You're tracing figure eights on ice in skates. That's like love, you know? You're skating on ice. You're on thin fucking ice, you know?
00:54:23
Speaker
You're, you're the one who's like, you're the one, I mean, that's, I mean, people will say that you're on thin ice. Like that's, that's a metaphor that you're kind of familiar with. And she's just kind of like, doo doo doo, I'm going to do some figure eights. Like I'm just going to, I'm just going to, you know,
00:54:40
Speaker
Exactly. She's on she's in La La Land. I'm just having the time of my life. And if I fuck it up, I'm the one who fucked it up. And I really totally relate to that as someone who's very like self
00:54:56
Speaker
mind in focused on myself and my priority is me but also in love makes you do like crazy things and you know you try your best to be your best
00:55:11
Speaker
for somebody else, but you can't help fucking up because that's what you do. And that's what I hear when I hear the song is like, I'm the fuck up. This happens. What did I think was going to happen? And it's really sad and heartbreaking. But the way that the music sounds and the way that she sings it, it's like she's holding your hand with you. She's like, I'm right there with you. I'm singing about you and I'm singing about me. We're all like we're all on this crazy train together. Yeah.
00:55:41
Speaker
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Wildflower and Bluebird's Melancholy
00:55:41
Speaker
talking about love it's hard catch myself getting emotional over here you know oh i'm sorry it's okay you don't have to be sorry yeah i think this is a much more like straightforward song and then also you know she's she says like the white clothes they gave you you wear them so well which
00:56:00
Speaker
virginity. I immediately think of virginity, right? And I think of purity. I think of like, you know, on your wedding day, like you wear a white dress or something, you know, see, and that's what I think is fascinating. We can I didn't know that, you know, this album would bring up so many interpretations.
00:56:19
Speaker
Yeah, that's the point. They don't go around saying, oh, this song is about this. And what I meant by this word is this. And I don't think that a lot of people are really digging in line by line trying to understand
00:56:34
Speaker
what is being said and i kind of like that because even though you know even though beach house is popular we don't see like oh victoria and this person are dating and then they broke up do we think that this song is about this relationship that she had you know she's not like taylor swift we're not like
00:56:51
Speaker
she's not in the public eye and so it makes it much more like she's not that she's one of us but that you know we don't know exactly like that this song is about this person so it's it's for everyone so make sense yes I absolutely hear you yes
00:57:08
Speaker
Thank you. Of course. But yeah, PPP is definitely one of my favorites. I think it's gorgeous and I'm really glad that you appreciate it and that you liked it. Yeah, it took a while but it connected with me finally.
00:57:23
Speaker
I'm glad. Wildflower, I don't have that much to say about Wildflower. I feel like it's a pretty self-explanatory track, so you can give me your thoughts and then we can discuss. Okay, this is probably one I had the least amount of thoughts on. I think this is probably my least favorite on the album. It opens up with the exact same hi-hats that's on every single Beach House song.
00:57:52
Speaker
I feel like I've said everything that I could say about Beach House music, or at least I thought so. Once I was making my notes and thinking about Wildflower, I was like, this just feels like a Beach House song. There's nothing else to it besides it being a Beach House song. I like the drums on the song. I think the drums are very nice, and I very much like the drums.
00:58:18
Speaker
don't have that many thoughts it just it feels like every time i listen to this song it goes in one ear and out the other oh well that's too bad it is too bad i agree i want to like all the songs obviously i mean that's okay you don't have to um kind of compared to the others wildflower is a little bit more like snoozy but it like adds to the vibes of the album i really hate saying vibes but you know it
00:58:48
Speaker
I know, but it's a good word to describe what I mean. It adds to the feelings of the album. For me, it's very melancholic. I think that the album is a melancholy nostalgia album, and I think that this adds to that soundscape.
00:59:15
Speaker
And that's kind of the point of it, you know? I still really like Wildflower. I love how she says, you know, baby, I'm yours. And then she says at the end of the song, Wildflower in the same way that she said, baby, I'm yours. But just hearing her, you know, when she says, baby, I'm yours, it's like just this like really like haunting, hauntingly beautiful thing. I don't know.
00:59:42
Speaker
I really love No Better Color, looked everywhere. To me, it's kind of like not happy, but it's almost like it's a content, more of a content feeling song. I don't know. There are lines here and there that I relate to, like you built a city all in your head, and then you know you're not losing your mind. What's left, you make something of it. The sky and what's left above it. The way you want nothing of it. Wildflower, like that ending is really
01:00:10
Speaker
beautiful I think it's it's kind of like a comfort song like it's not super frilly it's not super uh what's the word like just discordant it's it's just like a soothing little song
01:00:26
Speaker
you know I think for me like where we say 1037 is like a sleepy lullaby song but for me that has kind of like a sinisterness for me wildflower is like a soothing lullaby but with more of like the sweet comfort
01:00:42
Speaker
OK, I mean, I hear you. I mean, this is a very stripped back album. There's no bloat. There's no fat to trim on this album. It's very streamlined. It's very and I appreciate that. I respect that. And I don't think I think the song is on the album. And I think it's it's it's in a good spot on the album, especially as we approach the outro tracks. And I think in terms of the album as a whole, the song has its place. And I appreciate that.
01:01:12
Speaker
that's good i will take that yeah i really love that it's just a nine track album really kind of short and concise and a lot of their albums are like that they're not they're not super bloated but i feel like depression cherry is kind of especially compact but i do think of the songs being kind of in in pairs
01:01:35
Speaker
Interesting. What do you mean? Yeah. Well,
The Album's Cohesive Flow
01:01:38
Speaker
I think of Wildflower and Bluebird are paired up in my mind, and we're going to talk about Bluebird next, but Sparks and Space Song to me, they're kind of paired in my head. In a way, I could pair up Levitation and Days of Candy, the intro and the outro, just because I think they're similar in that they're
01:01:58
Speaker
like yin and yang you know because it's intro outro they're not really but they're not really opposites but they complete each other i don't really know um but we can talk about the that more as we get into the end but um my whole point in saying that saying this is just you know wildflower for me its pair is bluebird i think of them as like sister tracks
01:02:21
Speaker
Okay, I want to go back and listen to it with that in mind with listen to it with these pairings in mind. That's interesting. I want to see it through that lens.
01:02:31
Speaker
Yeah. And the songs are like close together. You know, you listen to Sparks and then Space Song comes on next. And it's like, you know, that's a little pairing. And then Also Beyond Love is kind of attached to that. And then, you know, Wildflower and Bluebird are our sister songs to me. And then Days of Candy comes after that.
01:02:55
Speaker
And the same way with levitation, starting off sparks and space songs. To me, it's kind of like there are these pairs, but then there is also a greater connection between songs. So I think basically what I'm trying to say is I think that the order of the tracks is really appropriate. And I just like that, I guess.
01:03:17
Speaker
I just want to say that I think it's really interesting that you are putting these songs on this album into pairs. Because, obviously, this is an odd number of tracks on this album, nine tracks. So you can't perfectly make up pairs with every single track on the album, which tells me that one track will be left over one lonely track one lonesome track. And that kind of plays into the imagery of the album more. And I'm, I'm
01:03:45
Speaker
I'm curious to analyze that in my own time. Like, what is this track that is alone? What is the loneliest track that doesn't have a pairing on this album? That's what I'm thinking of.
01:03:57
Speaker
Yeah, I think a couple of them are a little bit alone. It's funny because I think of PPP being its own thing, but it does fit so well within the album. Like, I wouldn't take it away. I'm not saying that. But to me, it's just I think because it's just got that energy and attitude of being so like whimsical to its own like folly, I feel like it's its own standalone thing.
01:04:24
Speaker
but like sonically and just everything about it fits within Depression Cherry so well. But I do think that I feel like PPP has like a life of its own. Yeah, I mean, and obviously, I think Space Song has a life of its own. I mean, I know you said you think that that song works better on the album. Yeah, we don't talk about that. All right. I think this is an album of many highlights, I would say that.
01:04:54
Speaker
Okay, that's fair. I can, yeah. But I do want to talk about Bluebird, the sister song to Wildflower. I think out of, not out of all of the pairings, but you know, I think Wildflower and Bluebird just makes sense together. To me, they're just like similar tracks. I really like, I really like both of them.
01:05:14
Speaker
But I do, you know, both of them, they're not the strongest track. So I think they are kind of like, you know, they're, they're, they're two mellow songs, you know, walking hand in hand and they're just, you know, taking a nice stroll. I think that I think of the songs like that. You know, it's it's really interesting that you put them as a pair. Wildflower is probably my least favorite on the album and Bluebird is one of my favorites on the album.
01:05:43
Speaker
I think it's very good. The song starts out with a cool percussion, which always gets me excited. I wrote down that it actually gives me fleek foxes or of monsters and men vibes, but in the best way possible. Again, I fall in love with the instrumental. There's this droning synth in the background that guides the rest of the song and it's really interesting. It puts a frame around the wall of sound that
01:06:13
Speaker
makes it more cohesive feeling to me than other tracks on this album. This is a song about the beauty of nature and the ever-present sound in this song, a constant drone that is easy to ignore. Maybe this track is genius.
01:06:33
Speaker
Maybe the nature and the drones in this song, maybe it all connects. I haven't figured it out yet, but I think it might be a genius track. The lyrics are lyrics that I can dissect and get into, and I might do that a little bit more. Again, it sounds like a Beach House song, but something about this song keeps me really hooked. I don't know if it's the drums,
01:06:59
Speaker
or the drone, or again, her vocals are mixed higher in this song than some others, and it feels less like a wall of sound or a surrounding of sound. It feels more like the instruments and the vocalist is on the same page, like they're working together to create personal music. It felt very personal. I think this feels like the most personal and human song on the album.
01:07:28
Speaker
Okay. That's interesting that you think it's the most human song on the album? Yeah. Okay. Interesting.
01:07:37
Speaker
It's something about it. I can't really touch on it. Like I said, I don't have as much experience with this album as you do. But it's like something that I want to get into, you know, I saved that, that, that song to my music, obviously. And I want to listen to it a lot more. But I just I haven't figured out what it is, you know, I haven't figured it out yet. But I know that it does something to my brain.
01:08:00
Speaker
Okay, that's fair. Yeah, I think that this is a great song. I would kind of dare to say that all of their tracks are genius in a way. I just think Beach House in general is just their geniuses. And I think a big part of that comes from the way that they're so connected and the way that they make music and their musical soulmates. And I just think that they just really create magic together.
01:08:30
Speaker
I love how much you love this song. I didn't mean to offend you or the other tracks by saying that I think this track is genius. I'm definitely not offended. The other tracks might be a little bit jealous.
01:08:45
Speaker
I don't have a problem with that comment. This song adds to the nostalgia for me. I know that I'm saying that about every track, but to me, this album, that's one of the biggest themes in it. For me personally, Bluebirds in general, I don't know. I feel like I would
01:09:06
Speaker
Not that I would see them a lot as a kid, but I don't know. The color of a bluebird, that color blue for some reason, it's a nostalgic blue to me. I'm sorry to keep saying nostalgia and whatnot. It's okay. There's nostalgia vibes all over this album.
01:09:28
Speaker
Yeah, I just love the imagery of the bluebird and she's saying that she wouldn't try to capture this person who she's calling a bluebird. At least that's what I hear.
01:09:44
Speaker
This feels like the most upbeat, maybe the most optimistic track on the album. Because a Bluebird, it represents good things and luck and happiness and all this stuff. Maybe she's playing into that for a little bit of contrasting themes, but I think this is actually because the song itself feels more upbeat than many other tracks on this album.
01:10:11
Speaker
I don't know. This one feels just slightly happier to me. Yeah, I mean, she does say lead me to the lead me to the gallows where there's, you know, something pulling me back. Mm hmm. Mm hmm. But yeah, I I don't know. I just really love this the way that she sings like. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I like her vocals on this. I really I really think, though, that I don't know. To me, it really sounds like she is singing to like an actual bluebird, like kind of.
01:10:40
Speaker
I can see that. I like that. Yeah. Like saying, where are you going to go now? Like, where are you going? Like, take me with you. Like I, like admiring the bluebird, like how she can just fly wherever and, and she's not caged, you know, as we are kind of, as humans were, you know, stuck on the ground, we can't just like open fly away.
01:11:03
Speaker
Again, you can interpret it however you see it. And then also, whatever the time in your life that you're listening to it might mean something different for you. Yeah. Well, thank you. I appreciate you saying that. Of course. I'm really glad that you appreciated this track. That makes me really happy. Yeah. Did you think I wouldn't?
01:11:29
Speaker
I just was surprised that that one stuck up to you. Okay, fair enough. I noticed it's like the least listened to track on the album. Oh, no, it's not. Days of Candy is the least.
01:11:41
Speaker
kind of makes sense to me. Speaking of Days of Candy, this is definitely, I love this outro song.
Days of Candy: An Emotional Closer
01:11:50
Speaker
I think it's really great, but it is definitely my least listened to off of this album. If it comes up, I'm definitely going to skip it. I think it's a track that
01:12:02
Speaker
For me I have to listen to it if I'm gonna listen to the album like if I'm listening to this album all the way through I'm not gonna not listen to the the last song but I I'm not just gonna put on days of candy unless I'm like trying to I'm like crying and I'm trying to continue to cry and like let's cry to this song It's an emotional one
01:12:24
Speaker
Well, I love this song. This is my second favorite song on the album, Behind Sparks. I think this song is amazing. Yeah, I think it's a perfect outro. You know, it feels very dreamy, very angelic.
01:12:39
Speaker
There's this very subtle kind of synth punctuating everything that she's saying in this pattern in the first half of the song. She's very pattern oriented in her vocals and there's a synth that's punctuating everything she's saying. But then we get that beat drop, that sick drop. Get what sounds like a drum machine or electronic drum kit and
01:13:07
Speaker
It's just rapid. I don't know. It tickles my brain. Then we get that signature Beach House rapid metronome sound along with the drum machine. Eventually, it all folds over onto itself as the song ends and becomes that wall of sound that we know Beach House for and on this album for as well. We get that back.
01:13:34
Speaker
as the song ends. You know, the second half of the song I think is really, really good, like really, really good. The closing lyrics, she says, I owe out there. I know a little bit of you. I keep it close to me. I know it comes too soon. The universe is riding on with you. I know it comes too soon. I know it stays for nobody. I want to know you there. The universe is riding off with you.
01:13:58
Speaker
And I mean, those are probably the lyrics that have connected with me most on the entire album. I don't know why those ones feel the most evocative, feel the most meaningful to me. And they just they stick out to me. And I put the song in my rotation. You know, I think
01:14:17
Speaker
It's I don't know it's a great song if I'm listening to songs from this album I'm listening to sparks or days of candy and it might have the best lyrics on the whole album which you know obviously I think you agree to it to an extent because you know it's a very emotional track for you despite you not listening to it all the time it's
01:14:34
Speaker
it brings a lot of emotions to you. And so I think, I mean, obviously you like this track, obviously you like all the tracks, but I just think the lyrics are really, really strong on this one. And I love the second half of this track.
01:14:49
Speaker
Yeah, I also love the second half of this track when the transition, when everything kicks in, it's so satisfying. I think the beginning of this song, the first part of it, the first act, with its angelic vocals. Yes, very angelic. I wrote down angelic in big all caps.
01:15:16
Speaker
definitely is like walking into like a cathedral and like you're arriving at the gates of heaven you know because it sounds beautiful but it's also kind of i don't know like i don't want to use the same words over and over again but i don't know if you've been in like a big cathedral it's like so beautiful but it also feels a little bit scary because it's like so big and you know there's so much space above you just like
01:15:44
Speaker
I don't know. It just reminds you. It reminds you that you're so small and that you're just a person, like you're just human. Yeah. Which I think I feel a lot with Beach House is like this music that connects me to my humanity. I really appreciate good closers on albums. And I don't know, I feel like this hits that mark.
01:16:10
Speaker
Oh, 100%. It really feels like they've delivered you somewhere. It feels like the culmination of everything that the album has been building towards. Yes. Yeah, that's how I feel. I'm really glad that you see it that way. Oh, yeah, absolutely.
01:16:29
Speaker
Yeah, I really feel like it's this like, um, ascent, you know, you're like walking up these stairs and then it transitions and you just, you've arrived at a great height and you just, you just see this view and it's like everything. You're able to see everything. Um, and it's beautiful, but it's so vast and we are so small.
01:16:54
Speaker
That's kind of how it feels and that's syn. What is it? It's like the classic beach house sound where it sounds like the beachy piano organ, whatever it is. I don't even know what it is.
01:17:09
Speaker
And just like that, it's gone. I love those simple lines. It's not just the words, but it's the way that the words are presented with the music, the way that she says just like that, it's gone. And then, you know, the part that you were saying, I know, you know, the universe is writing off with you and all of that. It's just like, it's great. I think it's incredible.
01:17:33
Speaker
Yeah, it's a very, very, very good song. I'm so happy that you appreciate it so much. Yeah, I appreciate this whole album so much. I mean, we've talked about all these tracks now. You know my thoughts on them. I wrote down something to describe kind of my whole experience with the album. I wrote a Tumblr kid tripping acid during a sunset on sandy beaches in the nebula.
01:18:02
Speaker
That's how I described this album and I think that's true. That's a good way to explain this album. That's what it feels like to me. That's so funny. For me, there's like no drugs involved. It's like sober. It's this very sober state.
01:18:19
Speaker
Wow, okay. I've looked up Dreampop forums in the past and tried to get into Dreampop before. And I've always had a hard time and a lot of people on these, you know, like on Dreampop subreddit or whatever, they're like, it's because you're not taking enough drugs. That's why you're not enjoying Dreampop. You know, that's what they always say that you gotta you gotta try tripping and then listen to it. So I don't know.
01:18:44
Speaker
Well maybe you should try 25 years of sobriety. Maybe that'll you know because that's how I experience it and I don't know for me it's like I think it's really like sobering and like I don't I don't know I would
01:19:03
Speaker
I'm always I'm always going to be biased, you know, against drug use. But okay,
Contrasting Listening Experiences
01:19:11
Speaker
I don't think yeah, no, that's fine. No one's like, like, hell yeah, drug use. Like, I just mean, like, I don't know, like, for some people, drugs help you connect to music. And I just feel like I have just the deepest connection with music. And I obviously don't do drugs. So I don't know, like,
01:19:31
Speaker
To be fair, there's something that, you know, one of my experiences listening to this album, I got really high and I listened to it. And, you know, I during Sparks, I had a transcendental experience, I think, transported to another realm. And it made me see that track in
01:19:52
Speaker
a whole new light, a lot of the tracks. I just laid down on my bed, had my earbuds in, and just closed my eyes and tried to embrace it while I was very high. And I don't know, it was really good. It was really good when I listened to it like that.
01:20:06
Speaker
Yeah. Well, that's good. I mean, that's perfectly fine. I just think that it, I don't know, that doesn't do anything for me. Like I listened to it and I experienced it and I feel it in my, I don't need to be under the influence. No, I hear you. I don't know. I don't know.
01:20:26
Speaker
The experience of listening to it high is different from listening to it sober. I think you get different things out of it. That's how I feel. I think I just get different perspectives. I don't think there's one correct way to listen to it. I don't think those people on the subreddit aren't right. I just think that you can get multiple perspectives
01:20:45
Speaker
right yeah i don't think that those people are right at all like you can you can like uh dream pop and you can also like it can be not for you i don't think that there's like you know a prerequisite to enjoy it like you have to you're not getting high enough i think that's really funny though
01:21:04
Speaker
I think maybe for some dream pop. Sure. To me, Beach House is so much more than just like dream pop. They definitely do. In my opinion, they really fit that title. Well, like I think they are kind of like the epitome of dream pop in a way. If you think that dream pop means so much more than just dreamy pop.
01:21:25
Speaker
Because obviously, there's so much poeticism, so much emotion, and I don't know that Dream Pop carries the weight of that. But I think sonically, it's very emotional music, but also, it is really dreamy, and it is dream pop.
Beach House's Dream Pop Legacy
01:21:45
Speaker
I think that if you don't connect with Dream Pop, or if you don't connect with Beach House or Haven't before,
01:21:53
Speaker
Listen to this album, if you haven't, and see what you think. It helped me get into Dream Pop more into Dream Pop. I wasn't really into it for a long time because of, I just couldn't, I didn't understand why it sounded like that. I was like, I was like, it's, it's, I don't know. I keep using the term wall of sound, but that's really what it is. And I know shoegaze is like that too, but I like the guitar and shoegaze. So I think that's the difference maybe.
01:22:23
Speaker
right yeah i think that beach house has a really great way of doing wall of sound and not all of their music is like that
01:22:30
Speaker
I'm excited to be able to send you some other songs of theirs and see what you think of them individually. Because I think that the more you delve into their music, the more of their eras stand out and the differences really become clear and it's not all just vibes, you know
Exploration of Myth from Bloom
01:22:49
Speaker
what I mean? Well, my favorite Beach House track is Myth off of Bloom. Yeah, that's one of my favorite songs.
01:22:57
Speaker
And the first time I heard it, I was like, oh yeah, this is a good vibes track. So I can go back and listen to it. And now that you have told me that it's not all vibes, I can appreciate it in a new light. I think Myth is such a devastating track. See, I never knew that. It's one of my favorites. And I think everyone will agree. Because Myth is a fan favorite. I think everyone out there who knows Beach House right now and hearing you say,
01:23:27
Speaker
Oh, myth is a great bias. Like they're like, what? This is the devastating. This is like a cry. This is like crying on the floor, like wondering why God put you on this earth song. It's that's so interesting. Because again, I would listen to that. And I thought they were speaking a foreign language. I like thought it was like, you know, the cocktail twins where the joke is you can't understand them. And that's what I felt like I was like, Oh, yeah, beach house is just kind of one of those things. You don't know what they're saying.
01:23:56
Speaker
There are no jokes in Beach House. There are no what? There are no jokes in Beach House. Oh, well, that's too bad. I don't know, I'm just kidding, but I'm really- Thank you for taking me through this album.
Lasting Impact of Depression Cherry
01:24:10
Speaker
Yeah, thank you for being open to it and enjoying it. Of course, yeah, I enjoyed it thoroughly. I listened to it a lot, and I'm still going to listen to a lot of the tracks from it.
01:24:21
Speaker
Well, I can't wait to hear your, your further thoughts on myth because I was going to, I was going to send that to you post depression cherry and see what it, what, how you felt about it. But, um, I'm also going to send you some other, some other beach house songs so you can listen to them on their own and maybe we can get you into beach house more, you know, that way. But yeah, I'm so, I'm so glad depression cherry.
01:24:48
Speaker
Well, I'm glad you're so glad. I had a good time with this one. We took a lot of time with it. We took a lot of time to listen to it, or at least I did. I mean, I'm sure you did too, but you already grew very familiar with the album. Yes. How many years has it been? Like eight years?
01:25:08
Speaker
Yeah. And I'm listening. I'm listening to this album and I'm like, wow, this is an amazing album. And I've heard it so much. I've heard it so many times. And and yeah, so it's it really is incredible. And I'm really glad that you appreciated it. So thank you so much. Well, I hope I hope you're as kind for my pick for next time.
Anticipation for The Mollusk
01:25:30
Speaker
And what is it? I don't want you to be mad at me or object to anything.
01:25:37
Speaker
Uh-oh. No, it's not that serious. The mollusk by ween. That's what we're listening to. Oh, no. Why? Okay. No, I have no idea. I just... I'm excited. So we'll see how that goes. The mollusk by ween. Start your listening. Start taking your notes. Okay. And we'll talk about it next time. I'm excited.
01:26:04
Speaker
I'm excited too. Okay, I have no idea what this is. So you I've talked about this album before. But I don't like I don't know what the music sounds like. I've definitely played you some music from it. And you've definitely heard at least one of this. What what what?
01:26:20
Speaker
I just like, if you just like say it, I'm not going to recall out of thin air. Okay. Okay. You're right. You're right. Ocean man. Yeah. That's the one that's like ocean man. You are the ocean man, right? I have no idea.
Episode Conclusion and Thanks
01:26:46
Speaker
A huge thank you to Jacob Dotson for the music in this episode and another huge thank you to anyone out there that might be listening. See you next week.