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Episode 370: ADAM ARMSTRONG GONE?!
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Southampton – Only rumours at the moment, but if they are true this would be dismal, surely?
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Introduction and Pod Overview
00:00:13
DailySaintsPod
Hello and welcome back to the Daily Saints pod. My name is Greg and as always joined today by my good friend and wonderful co-host Zach. How you doing mate, you alright?
Raheem Sterling's Chelsea Departure: Humorous Take
00:00:24
Zak
I'm sorry, I can't get past of the delusional conversation we had just before where we started on air, where the news of Raheem Sterling leaving Chelsea has just come out. And you were thinking, well, if he's not, you know, if it's not about money, maybe he'll come to us.
00:00:37
Zak
And man, I'm starting to realise where all these like 5-0 predictions are coming from.
00:00:39
DailySaintsPod
My name is
00:00:43
DailySaintsPod
To be clear, that was said firmly with my tongue in my
Adam Armstrong Transfer Rumors: Confusion and Debate
00:00:47
DailySaintsPod
cheek. But but look, mate, as we're going to discuss today, maybe maybe we're going to be in the hunt for a for a replacement striker soon, right?
00:00:48
Zak
Yeah, I'm sure it was me. Yeah.
00:01:00
DailySaintsPod
Rumours coming out today that Adam Armstrong's looking for a move to Middlesbrough for £10 million.
00:01:00
Zak
Oh.
00:01:08
DailySaintsPod
pound i mean...
00:01:11
DailySaintsPod
just I just don't know where to start with this one, Zach. Like, so many things. Like, letting the current championship top goalscorer go to a competitive rival for
00:01:26
Zak
again promote who are probably on the way to be promoted.
00:01:29
DailySaintsPod
for not a lot of money is is baffling to me. Can you make it make sense to me? Do you see...
00:01:36
Zak
So, so do you remember how you posted? you you posted, you you did the social media bits and pieces last night. And one of the things you said is, oh, do you think we're still on for promotion? And it's a conversation we've been having back and forth for the last couple of weeks. And I think it screams a little bit tin pot, doesn't it?
00:01:52
Zak
I'm not going to lie. if that's If it's genuine. Like, I understand that if the player wants to move, but like, it's not, you don't really want to like hold them to it. But at the same time,
00:02:02
DailySaintsPod
Hmm.
00:02:02
Zak
Like, we've barely scored as many goals as it is, right, for this season. And you want let the guy who's scored the most go on. He's not had a good run of form recently. He's not scored any of those goals in the last, I don't know how many games at this point.
Club's Financial Strategies and Player Value
00:02:16
Zak
However, it's like madness because I think some some people have made points about, you know, the amount of work he does off the ball and and how how, you know, you have for a long time.
00:02:27
Zak
It just seems like like, you know, one of the reasons that Ross Stewart is doing so well is it's offering something different. But you have to have the other side of that, that's something different, right?
00:02:36
DailySaintsPod
Yeah, did like once...
00:02:36
Zak
And Archer's scored like four in two years. you it's just it just seems madness, personally.
00:02:42
DailySaintsPod
and No, I agree. It's it's absolute insanity. it just It seems like such a like Even when... like We were talking about the like link to Wrexham and how weak it was and that it came from a podcast and they joked about 15 million and they'd get it.
00:02:58
DailySaintsPod
And even that seemed like such like a small amount Like, I just don't just don't understand what we're doing. Like...
00:03:07
Zak
It's mad, like considering what we sold Tyler Dibbling for last year.
00:03:07
DailySaintsPod
Yeah.
00:03:10
DailySaintsPod
Yeah.
00:03:11
Zak
I understand that he's youth prospect, this the other, but this is a player who, I don't know how long, to be fair, is left on his contract. But even then, I feel...
00:03:22
Zak
I don't know. It just feels like it's the answer to the question that we've been debating the whole of this week. Right?
00:03:31
Zak
Like, are we still in a run-up for promotion?
Promotion Goals and Player Motivation
00:03:33
Zak
Nah, we're planning to sell our best striker to a promotion, I guess, rival, if you want to put us in that frame.
00:03:42
Zak
But, like, stepping outside, we're currently 15th, they're second. He wants to potentially move back up north. You can tell maybe he's not been bought into it as much in recent times as he has previously.
00:03:55
Zak
but like, it just feels really strange to me. Like, so, so odd.
00:03:58
DailySaintsPod
So he signed a three-year deal in 2024 after we got promoted. So his contract won't expire till the end of next season.
00:04:10
DailySaintsPod
And so like a move in the summer on the cards, I can can absolutely see. but But really now?
00:04:22
DailySaintsPod
like Why? for what to what end? have we got Is it because we've got a guaranteed replacement? You talked yesterday how about a guaranteed replacement at this point.
00:04:34
DailySaintsPod
just isn't like a real thing. That's like a rainbow unicorn, right? like It's not
00:04:38
Zak
Yes, it's it's the it's the problem I have where you know, as much as I would like to see more movement in transfers, and I think I've asked them to read if the club supporters would, I'm also abundantly aware that any move currently does not guarantee you anything. like i you know Unless you maybe shove Messi in there, but even then, like it's not really it's not a guarantee. It's going to be difficult for anybody that comes in. And I think you're going to see that in a lot of the moves that have taken place in the Premier League as well. We'll see everything starting to kind of ramp up towards deadline day. It's probably the most transfer news I've seen in a long time.
00:05:14
Zak
But it just it just seems that like even if they had somebody lined up, like the any the only thing that i It feels very much like a he was never one of Spor's guys, so it's fine for him to go. And that's kind of like similar with the Ronnie Edwards thing, right? Similar with pretty much everybody else that's in that line of non-Spor's people, which means that, okay, maybe we have somebody else lined up. But to let Downs go made made sense.
00:05:40
Zak
To let Arma go is madness. And I don't even think even if we have a replacement, like, it just kind of seems a bit...
00:05:45
DailySaintsPod
not No, I
00:05:47
Zak
End of the season, sure, rebuild the squad from scratch, but are you for real? Like...
00:05:51
DailySaintsPod
no i fully fully agree. and like It's not even like
Adam Armstrong's Importance and Potential Departure
00:05:54
DailySaintsPod
this. like i You're saying like he's not scored in in however many games, but it's not like we didn't know that he wasn't a, a striker in that plays in patches, right? This is exactly when he got the top goal scorer in the championship.
00:06:10
DailySaintsPod
When we got promoted, he had like a, an eight or nine game spell where he didn't, couldn't hit a bundle with a banjo. Like it's, this is news to anyone who has followed the club for any amount of time. Like,
00:06:25
DailySaintsPod
you know what you're getting and what you're getting is a striker that can put away one chance in five, but will get himself in a position frequently enough to get those five chances often enough to to put those numbers up on the board. But yeah, I think you're right. Like, like if we were talking crazy money and and we were talking in the like, even into the like twenty five thirty s of millions,
00:06:52
DailySaintsPod
I can sort of say, well, you know, fine. It is what it is for that money. It's it's crazy. But but for 10 million? Like...
00:07:03
DailySaintsPod
is that Is that how bad, how close to PSR we are? like I wanted to think like go back through. like We sold hundreds of millions of pounds worth of players, and we you know have all of these stadium improvements that's supposed to increase our ability to feed revenue into the club.
00:07:16
Zak
Between like...
00:07:22
DailySaintsPod
so why does it feel like we've got nothing to show for it? Why does it feel like we're skirting so close to to these regulations?
00:07:30
Zak
Oh, shit.
Player Power and Transfer Negotiations
00:07:50
Zak
I don't know. I don't, I don't know the answer. I don't think we're going to get told. I just think that what are they going to expect? Right. You know, as an ownership group that if they're trying to die down the protesting selling like our literal, like the literal top goal scorer to a rival who wants to get promoted. And again, like there's another part of it that we shouldn't ignore. more And that is player power is strong nowadays. If somebody wants to go, we've seen what happens if they don't.
00:08:18
Zak
It's not like we'd the club have a massive amount of negotiating power if it's only a year left on his contract. But it's just a bit...
00:08:23
DailySaintsPod
yeah
00:08:26
Zak
It's just the whole thing seems bizarre. And you're right, like for the amount of money. But also, what would you consider to be acceptable for a championship club to bid for him? And in my opinion, it's like, not that.
00:08:39
Zak
Not that.
00:08:39
DailySaintsPod
I mean, look i say like I say, in the summer...
00:08:39
Zak
Yeah.
00:08:43
DailySaintsPod
$12-15 million, sure, right? Like I see it, one year left on his contract at that point, and you know presumably the rebuild in in the summer is going to need to be pretty drastic from our perspective, sort of regardless of what happens.
00:08:57
DailySaintsPod
But at this point in the season, with you know I think you're right, it it would be the telltale sign of giving up, right? Like it would be...
00:09:07
Zak
Well, not even that, it's like, do they even want to stay up? Like, they want to stay in the championship because you start selling all of the key pieces. And not to be dramatic, but like, if if if you know, if Archer's got, what, like, in in league competitions, what, four goals?
00:09:22
Zak
Where are our goals coming from? Are relying entirely on Azaz and Sienza to score them? What happens if one of them picks up an injury? yeah i understand that there has always been a need to
Club Strategy and Communication Issues
00:09:32
Zak
slim the squad down. There has always been there has always been dead weight.
00:09:36
Zak
I just, it's just not like, it's not like Arbor's dead weight though, and that's what I'm a bit perplexed by.
00:09:39
DailySaintsPod
Nah It's craziness
00:09:40
Zak
I know that some, he's not a fan, there's a lot of people that aren't huge fans, but like, name me a better goal scorer in the club currently.
00:09:49
DailySaintsPod
Yeah, no, that there isn't one And, no
00:09:49
Zak
It's not, it's not Ross Stewart either, in the nicest possible way, and he can't play every game, so...
00:09:54
DailySaintsPod
Yeah, it is it's just baffling and it's it's crazy that it's even sort of coming to this as a rumour.
00:09:54
Zak
yes
00:10:02
DailySaintsPod
And even if it is absolute nonsense, I think what's really upsetting is that it's it's still believable and that's that's where it hurts because it's it's just maddening.
00:10:14
DailySaintsPod
it's It's infuriating. Like, what what what are we doing? but
00:10:18
Zak
it's because It's because there's no trust, is there? that's the That's the problem.
00:10:21
DailySaintsPod
yes
00:10:22
Zak
There's not a lot of trust for them to think that where they have our best interests at heart anymore.
00:10:31
DailySaintsPod
Hmm.
00:10:31
Zak
And like you know there there is a there is a lot of distrust around, you know again, like even even things that we would argue are relatively good, by like stadium upgrades.
00:10:31
DailySaintsPod
Hmm.
00:10:41
Zak
A vast majority of people hate and complain about and this and other. And it's the fact that, you know, the level of, you like, oh, our club would never do that.
00:10:51
Zak
You could be like, yeah, it kind of seems something we could do in this. And it kind of started with, you know, it started long before this, but like the the Ronnie Edwards transfer in this particular patch itself kind of was like,
00:11:03
Zak
Really? He was like seemed like a natural successor. that he He really was what we would consider to be this kind of like part of growing youth players into sellable prospects. and what we've done is like make a million quid off of him, which is like, we don't need to be desperate.
00:11:16
Zak
Unless they are planning to overhaul literally everything, replace everyone, and doesn't matter, nobody's...
00:11:16
DailySaintsPod
Yeah.
00:11:21
Zak
you know nobody's You know, like nobody's tenured to be here. Everybody could be potentially expendable. And yeah, i think that's kind of like a kind of horrible state that we're in.
00:11:33
Zak
And I just think that, you know, especially where Arma went out on loan last season, came because he wanted to play more. He's getting the playtime. it's too, it's just almost like the other thing that makes it believable, Greg, is it's almost one too many rumors, this window specifically. First, there was Wolves. That kind of didn't seem to be the Wrexham thing, kind of spiraled out of control. And now this has come up real close to transfer deadline day. And it, you know, apparently the player might be keen in the move. and we We don't know.
00:12:01
DailySaintsPod
Closer to family in the north is what what I've read, which I mean, sure, that's a a thing.
00:12:06
Zak
Again, so but that kind of stuff I'm not really... But also it's believable currently from from him. you know that It's the fact that we don't seem to have such a close-knit together group.
00:12:16
Zak
It's like, oh, why would you want to leave this for this? It's the, oh, no, someone else has come in They might go. there's There's like an underlying weird...
00:12:23
DailySaintsPod
Yeah.
00:12:24
Zak
Not weirdness to it but there's an underlying level of... sometimes you're surprised when players leave. At the moment, it doesn't feel like what is what is keeping them here. The idea of potentially going up to the Premier League again and the team, you know, fighting for something, you know, arguably we should have said at beginning of the season that we should have been fighting for promotion. We're now languishing in fifteenth well What is the target? What is the reason for one players wanting to stay here? you Sure, you can say a challenge, but if you've if it's been a challenge the whole time, something different.
00:12:56
Zak
there's There's so many factors to it, but like from from a club perspective, it just seems kind of nuts that to let that happen. And the fact that was pretty much confirmed today in the press conference from Tonda that like, oh yeah, it's going to be busy, outgoings mainly. And it's like, good, we've always wanted to trim the squad. Kind of weird, which areas are trimming? Yeah.
00:13:14
DailySaintsPod
Yeah, it it was it was a weird thing, but he did also mention you know lots of conversations with recruitment, so hopefully that that means that there's you know something in the works for some kind of inbound. but I mean, look, there are there are plenty of players in the squad that...
00:13:32
DailySaintsPod
that you would hear rumoured to leave and it wouldn't raise an eyebrow.
Team Dynamics and Match Preparations
00:13:35
DailySaintsPod
I just i just didn't think Adam Armstrong was realistically ever on on that list that the club would even consider because because it's baffling.
00:13:44
DailySaintsPod
I mean, like you say, what it leaves us with, with Cameron Archer, who it just hasn't had the numbers that, admittedly, that I think that his play arguably deserves sometimes, but but it just doesn't hasn't backed it up at all.
00:13:58
DailySaintsPod
And Ross Stewart, who...
00:13:59
Zak
It's the reality the situation though, isn't it?
00:14:01
DailySaintsPod
whose fitness is is what is questionable at best you know even even if he's back to fully fit you wouldn't want him playing three games in a week right like it's just not something that even seems viable so yeah it's just such a strange one I don't I don't know and like I say like I get it right like Adam Armstrong is not the best striker in the world he's you know he's wildly inconsistent and plays in spells and, you know, seems to be unable to score a penalty.
00:14:35
DailySaintsPod
But, like, he's still the best we've got at the moment. and And, like, taking a gamble...
00:14:43
DailySaintsPod
but yeah you know that's even taking the jump to assume that if he goes, we'll replace him, right? But taking that gamble on a new signing or a combination of Cam Archer and Ross Stewart just seems...
00:14:56
DailySaintsPod
I can't can't even really put it into words, mate. I'm absolutely dumbfounded by it. it's sir It's crazy.
00:15:07
Zak
Well, we're just very, I think that's the other thing is, that as you said, the fact that it's so believable is that maybe we're just getting used to crazy things. that's That's the sad reality of it, mate.
00:15:18
DailySaintsPod
Hmm.
00:15:20
Zak
We'll guess we'll see what happens.
00:15:20
DailySaintsPod
Uh...
00:15:20
Zak
It might be a whole load of nothing and we've we've blustered for 15 minutes about a whole load of hoo-ha. But also, again, i think your point of it's believable is itself a damn an indictment.
00:15:33
Zak
LAUGHTER
00:15:36
DailySaintsPod
right Right, we also got an update on on Leo's fitness in the presser today, right? we're not going to think too much about Stoke heading into the weekend, but...
00:15:48
Zak
Mm-hmm.
00:15:48
DailySaintsPod
I don't know if you saw the the actual update, but it's that he's hopeful to be able to be picked for the game, but he'll be training on his own this week. And now, based off of everything I've learned from following press conferences and team news closely, what that reads to me is, Leo will not be available this game week and might not be available for a couple of weeks after.
00:16:10
DailySaintsPod
Is that...
00:16:13
Zak
You're right. Doing everything we can to get him a fit for Saturday screams to me, get Stoke to prepare for him and play Jay Robinson.
Communication Breakdowns and Player Morale
00:16:25
Zak
And again, if they if they want that opinion to change, they need to do something like not BS like that and actually play for the weekend.
00:16:32
DailySaintsPod
Yeah.
00:16:32
Zak
Obviously, I guess we'll have to see. But maybe maybe when our criticism of managing his minutes was a bit too harsh because he obviously needed it or otherwise we wouldn't be...
00:16:43
Zak
in the situation we're in now. And again, like the physicality of the championship, like it's not surprised me that he's eventually pick something up considering week in, week out, the bloke is clattered, you know.
00:16:53
DailySaintsPod
Absolutely. Well, to be fair, I don't think we ever criticised the need to manage his minutes as much as we criticised the timings and ways they managed to do it, right?
00:16:54
Zak
So...
00:17:03
Zak
Maybe the when, right?
00:17:06
Zak
Yeah, it's like the the whens and the whys as opposed to the you know the actual reason, but I guess we'll have to find out.
00:17:06
DailySaintsPod
But mean...
00:17:14
Zak
Either way hopeful hopefully hopeful hopefully if we take it at face value, we'll see him at the weekend.
00:17:15
DailySaintsPod
but i mean
00:17:21
Zak
You're right to not take it at face value.
00:17:22
DailySaintsPod
if but But if we don't, that's that's kind of a big piece of the puzzle missing, and we've seen that, right? Even literally any of the sort of attacking form missing at any sort of point so far has been a cause for concern, right?
00:17:40
DailySaintsPod
So...
00:17:41
Zak
I'll point out that even with all of them, though, over the last couple of games, it's not really been that much better. You know, that we we picked...
00:17:48
DailySaintsPod
No.
00:17:49
Zak
I still can't help but go back to that Middlesbrough game, eight where we had what I'd consider to be our best XI on the field. We're like right, let's get back to where we were, a purple patch before, get absolutely battered. And ever since then, it's like, well, that is maybe our best. And, you know, we'll just have to see... Maybe we'll see Sammy Odozie. Who knows? You know?
00:18:07
DailySaintsPod
I mean, i feel like we're more likely to see a flying pig at this point. I don't know. I don't know. I mean, we talked about it briefly yesterday, but you made a point that made me think, because you said about Belakot chap, right?
00:18:22
DailySaintsPod
And like, maybe if he, you know, what we're hearing, sure, and he has been available all of this season and hasn't been picked, maybe he's just not quite as good as I remember, or or just doesn't like gel well with the way that we're trying to play, or artist just...
00:18:40
Zak
I don't necessarily, the reason that I don't necessarily believe that is that with Berlkochap, he went on loan and but got injured pretty quickly and then basically didn't play. Some of them did get injured while on loan, but played quite regularly for Anderlecht, right? even I think he even had some appearances like the Europa League Champions League.
00:18:57
Zak
So I do find the idea of him coming back, you know, we saw him, I remember if we saw him a little bit in pre-season and they were kind of planned to reintegrate him into the squad. And then obviously it's all the BS around whether or not he's been injured or whatever, or he's still nursing an injury and not seeing him the under 21s either.
00:19:06
DailySaintsPod
yeah very briefly.
00:19:14
Zak
It's like a big indicator for me. so So yeah, but I'd kind of at least expect him to be involved somewhere in the club if it wasn't. Again, it's just more legacy business that we're dealing with, more legacy not actually dealing with the situation properly. And the thing is, after like James Breeze comments about, yeah, the communication from the club to me about the loan deal was kind of bad. It wouldn't really surprise me if like he's, because it was like, what is it? Somebody was like, oh, I'm surprised, you know, why can't they just go and knock on the door of the manager? And I'm like, I just don't know if that's,
00:19:47
Zak
how it is here. Like from what I can tell, all the doors are open between like the under 21s and the the manager and the head coach and stuff.
00:19:49
DailySaintsPod
Yeah.
00:19:53
Zak
But wouldn't surprised if you go in and you go to speak to the head coach and he goes, well, problem is mate, is like, you know, transfers the stuff aren't my deal. got to speak to matey. Goes over to the scout.
00:20:01
DailySaintsPod
Hmm.
00:20:01
Zak
He's like, oh, he needs to go speak to Spores. Goes in to speak Spores. Spores is like, well, if you go back to Tonda and have a chat with him, he'll sort it out for you. And then it's just that eventually they've given up. Like I wouldn't be surprised if that's why, Yeah.
00:20:12
DailySaintsPod
Yeah, and I mean, look, i mean we've we've heard complaints of of very similar stuff from Bree. We talked about yesterday about law the communication issue, and Tom just sort of addressed it in the press of today.
00:20:21
Zak
Exactly.
00:20:22
DailySaintsPod
He's like, well, I picked him in the in the the most important game of the season to start, and he played 90 minutes. So if that doesn't send the message, I don't know what will. And I'm like, maybe...
00:20:32
Zak
but What, what, what, like having a conversation, picking up your phone.
00:20:34
DailySaintsPod
Maybe like telling yeah him. Yeah. like that was That was my gut reaction. like you Like you don't need to to make these gestures to to tell people
Looking Forward: Future Matches and Improvements
00:20:44
DailySaintsPod
things. You can just sometimes you can just tell them things, right? Yeah.
00:20:49
Zak
And again, like there's other questions. like People talking about... I think we're back and forth in the comments about Bree, but it's like, it was weird when we sent Bree out anyway and then replaced him with Mads Roroslev, who was like, do we really need to switch him out? And then he got injured, and then he's not played, and then he's come back to it, and we've got Jalert. There's just so much mess going on behind the scenes, and I understand this is why they want to kind of like...
00:21:11
Zak
clear out the squad but it does also feel like they're clearing out parts of the squad that we actually like need which again ties nicely back into our point about adam armstrong but i don't know mate i like i just hope that i can stop being mad about it and we get win at the weekend and i'm i'm really scared it's gonna be like a really ball draw but we get battered three nil at that point like what we're even talking about week in week out of then you know like
00:21:34
DailySaintsPod
Yeah, I mean, it's it's a scary run, right? Like this this game and the end of the window, and then and and we know where we're at for the rest of the season, kind of one way or another. And the answer to that, or the potential answer to that question is is pretty scary.
00:21:52
DailySaintsPod
Yeah.
00:21:53
Zak
Oh dear.
00:21:53
DailySaintsPod
I don't know. Just before we wrap up, mate, I wanted to finish. I don't know if you saw an interview with Cam Bragg, who was pretty gutted to miss out on the South Coast Derby as a local lad.
00:22:07
DailySaintsPod
And I just think that that that kind of thing is is nice to read, right? It's nice to see the the actual like local lads coming through the academy and making their way into into integrating with the first team.
00:22:21
DailySaintsPod
it's It is good, right?
00:22:23
Zak
Yeah.
00:22:23
DailySaintsPod
Trying to end on a bit of positivity.
00:22:26
Zak
Yeah, feel bad for him for not playing though.
00:22:28
DailySaintsPod
Yeah. yeah Yeah, gutted. The fact that he you know was out with the the concussion and stuff, definitely not not ideal. but And I mean, it would be interesting to see really if if he's able to sort of fight his way back into to the team with...
00:22:45
DailySaintsPod
the
00:22:45
Zak
but Especially with, yeah, now Charles is back, it's going to be difficult, I'm sure. But yeah, yeah you're right. there are It's not 100% doom and gloom. It just really feels like it because of the, you know, because of once the window shuts, that'll be it until the end, right?
00:23:01
Zak
And so it'd be that until the end of the season and we'll be able to concentrate a little bit more.
00:23:05
DailySaintsPod
yeah
00:23:07
Zak
But those stories combined with the general manays around the club kind of is is awful. But at least there are like small pockets of positivity and like the under-21s are doing really well. I think they're like third up to third now or something like that, think, last checked. They've been, you know, playing a little bit and hopefully, you know, the academy continues to get better and we start to see a few more debutants and then it doesn't become...
00:23:30
Zak
what it feels like now, which is I just think that we're we're too much of a ragtag group of the dregs of multiple managers worth of players. And I'm guessing that also feeds into the transfer policy if they don't want to just give another manager free reign to buy players and then have to get rid of them six months later. So there's lots of things, but hopefully we can just get better.
00:23:56
DailySaintsPod
Yeah.
00:23:57
Zak
I base it off of nothing, but it base it on the fact that you said we need to to try and be more positive. So there you go. That's like a muster, mate.
00:24:05
DailySaintsPod
Look, you know what? I will take it. All right, mate, that is all we have got time for today. Thank you very much, as always, for joining me.
Podcast Wrap-up and Audience Engagement
00:24:16
DailySaintsPod
And thank you, everyone, for listening. We will be back tomorrow to preview the Stoke game. But until then, look let us know in the comments or the socials. What are your feelings? 10 million for Adam Armstrong.
00:24:30
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00:24:35
Zak
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