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WELCOME TO THE CLUB! Trisha Paytas Told Me to Keep Going + Why Overcompensating Is TOO Relatable
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Welcome to the first official meeting of Club Crave, your new favorite fandom clubhouse where pop culture lovers, fangirls, and internet obsessives unite. In this debut episode, host Nick Williams introduces the concept behind the pod and opens the Hot Girls Crashing Out Hotline. Call in now to leave your takes, rants, and stan confessions: (323) 380-2191 📞
Nick is joined by his husband Justin Williams, who’s been supporting every chaotic internet-fueled venture along the way. Together they reflect on how this podcast came to life and dive into today’s hot topics.
Plus: Stay to the end to hear a hint as to who our upcoming guests are. 👀
🎥 Follow @clubcrave on TikTok and @clubcravemedia on Instagram for exclusive clips, fan moments, and bonus content from today’s episode!
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Introduction to Club Crave Podcast
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Like when she walks into the room where they're all trying to find their roommates and she's goes, uh, roomy ass bitch. Like, I had so many girlfriends like that. I don't want a second date. Like you're weird. I did not ever tell you that. And then I must have just done like a magic spell or something.
00:00:18
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And now here we are. I love that you glossed over the part where you ghosted me. I kind of went back and forth recently about moving to LA. but Something I would love to announce right now.
Living in Nashville vs. LA
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um
00:00:48
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Hello everyone and welcome to the Club Crave podcast. My name is Nick Williams. I am happy to be here. um Thank you for joining. I'm posting this late on Sunday.
00:01:01
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um It came out on Sunday though, so that's all that matters. um And the past two days I've been working on this little corner of my office. um have a Bunch of stuff that just came in from Amazon.
00:01:14
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These pink shelves. I've got my labubus up. Labubus. And um this funny story. um I thought this was really cute at 2 a.m. two nights ago. And then I realized now it looks like a corn cob.
00:01:28
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um And then I like set my big labubu here. And then realized, oh my god. It's kind of like he's a farmer. so we've got the corn, the farmer.
00:01:40
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We've got a little... Oh, and then the bee. Wait, where's the bee? Oh, we moved it to the bookshelf up there. There's a bee? Yeah, the bee kind of goes in with harvest. Is it the frame? I'll bring it down.
00:01:51
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Yeah, you can see it, I think. Okay. and Maybe not. Oh, well. um You can show it to the camera. Your little crybaby? Yeah. She's so sad. Yeah. She is.
00:02:02
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Poor thing. yeah go you know and they Have her pollinate the corn. It'll make her happy. yeah How does she do it? Just like fly around it? They poop it out? Oh, like well. Don't quiz me on biology. How does the pollinating work? I hardly heard that degree. I think the pollen sticks to their feet and then they like land on it. That's what it is. I don't know.
00:02:25
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But in the B movie. Yeah, how did it work in that one? I feel like They would like... i feel like they like got in the pollen, right?
00:02:37
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Sure. And then like it was all over them. And then they would fly and it would like i mean honestly fall like dust on it. So they would just fly and it would the dust would fall.
00:02:48
Speaker
So that she just did it like that. I think you're right. That, honestly... Okay, guys. You should be a professor. Welcome to Club Crave. This is what this podcast is going to be, you guys. This is just a taste. Insanity. Some ADHD vibes, you know If you've got it, you've got it, and you know. um Sometimes your brain just takes you on the
Nick's Journey and Podcast Vision
00:03:08
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wild rides, especially after 2 p.m., right? Like, sometimes you just start talking, and then later you realize, how did I get here?
00:03:18
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Where am I? Why did I say that? Why did I say the thing I said? I feel like doing this podcast is going like, I'm going to black out every episode and then I'm going to watch it later and be like, I don't not remember that at all.
00:03:33
Speaker
I think this is therapy for you too, though. You're like, wait. Yeah, kind of. Like, I'm allowed to say words. I'm allowed to have opinions and thoughts and cringe. Like, you are allowed to be a cringy person. Honestly, yeah. Like, okay. So, this is the Club Crave podcast, you guys.
00:03:47
Speaker
Welcome to the first episode. I have been wanting to do something like this, um but I feel like I've always been nervous to be cringe. Like you said, like, I've always...
00:03:59
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um Putting myself out there on the internet, um I've done it a bit in terms of like fan accounts that I've i've made. um But the podcast setting feels so much more ah vulnerable and it feels so much more like uncontrolled, I guess. like with these like Maybe I was doing interviews, boots on the ground style with fans, and like I would edit those And then I wouldn't use some, you know, if they weren't good or whatever. But podcasts like you kind of just use everything you'd write. Like, I feel like with the Just Trish podcast, which I know many of you are fans of and are coming over from that fandom.
00:04:40
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um they just hit record and you know they just talk. and like they If they say something weird or they stutter, like they just keep it all in. and That's kind of what I plan to do.
00:04:50
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um so yeah i i don't really want to edit it too much. I just want to be casual and natural with it. so um And also with this podcast, I want it to be fan community driven. Like I just, I think that's the biggest thing for me is like, why, why do I love the fandom culture and the subcultures of the internet?
00:05:11
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I love them because of that community and like the relationships you build along the way. And yeah, I think it's just so cool to have besties um in these different fandoms. And then you get to go to the show and maybe if your favorite person goes on tour and then go meet all of your your internet besties how cool um i've loved doing that over the years um as a taylor swift fan and as a trisha paytas fan um but anyways i'm going to give you a little tagline to introduce the um podcast here um i wrote it down um because i don't have it memorized yet but i promise you hopefully by episode four or five i'll have this thing memorized
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ah Welcome to Club Crave, where we celebrate fan culture, pop
Staying in Nashville: Challenges and Aspirations
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drama, and the icons who keep the internet unhinged. I'm Nick, owner of the club, and I invite you to come in and kiki with us.
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poetry How do we feel? Are we... Need to workshop it a little bit? Or do you think it was a sleigh? i think you need to memorize it. Okay. Okay, so you think it's a sleigh?
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I think it's a sleigh, but I do think, like, ah fifth episode, no. Like, if you don't know it by next episode... ah Okay, well well, we'll try. It's a long it's a long tagline, um but I think it does a good job at kind of encompassing what I want this project to be.
00:06:34
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um And I think, you know, over time, I'll relax a little bit more. I won't be so nervous. And I will see all of y'all's comments and support. And then that will like kind of boost me to keep going and to keep confident, which I feel confident right now. I, I'm excited to be here and I, um, excited to like get this thing finally started.
00:06:57
Speaker
It's been a dream. It's been a thought. It's been all the things, um, it's you know been something that I uh wanted to do since like probably college like the thought of like coming online and like being and trying to be an influencer um was always something that I wanted to do and I think we all have those phases and moments especially our generation you know we we grew up with um influencers and watching them on YouTube and like their lives look so glamorous, you know, and lavish and um the LA life was so cool. And um that's something I've thought about a lot too recently was like, do we, so if you don't know, I live in Nashville, um shout out Nashville.
00:07:40
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If any of y'all live in Nashville or are nearby, let me know um because love to either one, hang out or two, um have you on the podcast, um which we'll talk about what kind of people we're going to have on the podcast.
00:07:53
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um here later but um in terms of nashville what was i saying about nashville you were gonna try to give me your like little pitch oh like oh no big nash it's not a pitch So I kind of went back and forth recently about moving to LA.
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um i always felt like you had to live in l LA to be an influencer. And that's kind of why i never started my own projects. i always was like, I'm not in l LA. It's not cool if you're not in l LA.
00:08:23
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um But it's not true. i think lately I've been realizing a lot of people I follow online aren't in l LA, which i was like, whoa. that's cool. Like, I feel like that's such a shift from what it was when we were growing up, when everyone was in l LA and all the collaborations ever happened in l LA. I mean, that still is kind of what it is today. But I mean, anyone wants to collab in l LA, hit me up, I jump on a flight, and you know, whenever, but I don't think I need to live in LA right now.
00:08:51
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um And we've, we bought a house in the fall last year and we feel like you know, we're, um, in a good spot here. i feel like, um, for the first time in a while I've felt financially secure.
00:09:07
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um never felt like that in my life ever. Um, so yeah, I just think there's so many good things here and I feel like, I don't know, i maybe it's too optimistic of me, but I feel like we can create something here. Um, we can build a community of influencers here.
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um
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Yeah, I think Nashville has its troubles because we are in the South. um And there's creators here that are... They're all like the Christian um TikTokers or they're conservative in some way. Or like they just don't they're just not into the girlies and the gays. The stuff that we listen to or talk about every day. So...
00:09:54
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um But again, there's people here that, you know, are fans of all of these things. So like, why can't there be influencers who are in these sub genres that we plan to talk about on this podcast? So, um so yeah, I'm excited to like, just kind of maybe start, you know, speaking up about that in Nashville and see if we can get people creating content and um maybe make this like the the second LA, if you will.
Balancing Career and Relationship
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Um, but there's people already in, in Nashville that I've connected with who are going to come on the podcast, who are influencers. Um, the, the few that I found and i actually met them through the Trisha Paytas concert, um, uh, at the Ryman auditorium a couple weeks ago. So,
00:10:35
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So, yeah. Anyways, all that to say is we're staying here in Nashville for a while. um And Justin still laughs at that because he's like, oh, God, what does that mean? Three years, four years? No, I don't know.
00:10:46
Speaker
i mean, i feel like you just you can't plan that far in advance. You can. You can't. Boring people do that. You just scared me because I thought you were going to be like, we're moving to LA in like a month. Like, I don't know. Like it was like very like. You thought the episode of one of my new podcast, I would break that to you right now, right here. No, I meant like, like when you first brought up LA to me, like you were like, I hate Nashville. I don't want to be here anymore.
00:11:09
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And I was just like. Okay. i was going through it. I just started like school. When do I say I hated Nashville though? I don't hate, I've never hated Nashville. you were You were just going through it. i You've never said you hate it, but I think like the politics were doing their thing and all the... don't remember hating it.
00:11:28
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I'm putting words in your mouth. No, you're right. But like you were just in a moment where like I think you felt disconnected from the community. yeah You felt like if two succeeded, you needed to be in l LA. And like yeah I guess to clarify, because I don't want people coming for me, but also like genuinely... like I would go to l LA with you if it made sense for like both of us. Yeah,
Creating the Podcast: Inspiration and Setup
00:11:50
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no, me too. I think in the time there was a part of me that felt like you were like running a little bit, a little tiny bit. Yeah, well, here's my theory on it. I think I um grew up watching all these YouTubers and i and just like being somebody that's so into like pop culture and the internet, like I always dreamt of moving to LA. It's almost not moving there. feels like that dream is being squashed almost.
00:12:14
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But like, that's also just like how I felt as a kid. That doesn't mean I have to feel like that as an adult. Like, I think like, it's just part of my brain that feels like, Oh yeah, one day I was going to get there and now I'm not, but like, I'm okay with that. Cause LA is very expensive.
00:12:31
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We have built ah you know, ah we've put roots down here in Nashville and, um, Yeah, I think um we're closer to family here.
00:12:42
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um and and there's a lot of benefits about you know so but not being in LA. LA, the traffic is crazy. It's expensive. um
00:12:54
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You would have to do a lot to make sure that you are certified in a different state for your social work. um so Which i've I've done the research. I can figure it out. I will say like...
00:13:06
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if we moved to l LA, I feel like you'd have to like get a job offer from like Trisha or something. Like, what do you mean Trisha? Like Trisha was like, Hey, um, Jimmy says that like the video editing is like too much. And like, I love your edits. Like, can you move to l LA? I'd be like, yeah, like let's go. But if it was, you know what i mean? Like,
00:13:29
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No, no, no. Yeah, because you're very like realistic, or not realistic. um What's the word? Traumatized. I don't know. I'm the kind of person that would just, if I want to go to l LA, I'll go to LA and figure it out. That's how we did Nashville. I you know worked at a front desk at a hotel for three years or what not three years i guess it was more like yeah that's a good distinction because i'm like i just need a game plan but i guess now that we like are so stable it feels like you know the more stable you are the more a game plan it feels like you need to stay stable because we could move to la and then we could just be struggling again and go back to square one but we've already gotten to kind of like square three maybe here you know what mean so going back is kind of like it's scary but again like even thinking about all that stuff though like
00:14:14
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even if it was really easy to move to l LA, I feel like it's not the right decision because,
00:14:23
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excuse me, I, because um i love Nashville and I think there's something about being like, a medium fish in the the size of a pond that Nashville is. You know what i mean?
00:14:37
Speaker
If you go to LA, you're a small fish in a big pond. And I was just talking about this with my new friend, Beth, who I met through Trisha. So, um and when she said that, I was like, damn, you're right. Like, um yeah like i mean that's there's a lot of pros to staying here and that's a great way to look at it you know there's there's a whole um like you can build a lot i feel like here um because that community not no doesn't exist here yet so anyways yeah i'm not I'm not tied here, and I'm happy to go anywhere. I think we're like on the same page now. I think it's just been a lot of, like, you had your wanderlust, and I was like, oh, I've like finally found a community.
00:15:17
Speaker
And you've been so supportive, too, in terms of, like... you know, me going to LA a couple of different times this year, um without you. And, you know, with you having school and work this year, i haven't been able to see you through the week. And then I was gone quite a few weekends, um, for all, I mean, not just to go to LA, but for work and like work trips and stuff like that. um,
00:15:42
Speaker
I appreciate you for supporting me through all of that. And, um, hope that light just went out. Oh, well. Um, but I appreciate you for supporting me through all that and, um, letting me go chase my dreams as you should. And I know if I really wanted to move to LA and there was a reason and like you know, all the things you would go. So, um, I appreciate having a supportive husband.
00:16:01
Speaker
Of course, but now I'm a changing job. So you're stuck with me through the week now to apologies. Yay. Yeah, congratulations to my husband. He just got a new job.
00:16:12
Speaker
um I guess we probably shouldn't dox you and say where you got a job at, but he's in social work um and he's working on his master's degree, which you finish it in a year from now? Yeah. My current class is making me question if that's possible, but I think I'm going to pass it. Great to hear that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, I got to adjust here.
00:16:32
Speaker
Um, well, um, let me look at my notes here for the show because, you know, this is the first episode, so you've got to bear with us. We maybe don't have all of the segments that we're going to end up having just yet, but I just really wanted to kind of touch base with you all and let you know what to expect.
00:16:51
Speaker
Um, and kind of will just like say, Hey, and hang out for a little bit. And, um, yeah, so like some things may change like these shadows, the lights won't go out and probably next weekend because I literally just like the past 24 hours has been me getting this all together, literally hung this wallpaper yesterday. So yeah, we've, we've been ah really busy getting it together. And you know, i think last week I just had the spark of inspiration and I was like, you know what, let me just freaking make the podcast.
00:17:19
Speaker
It's like I could plan it a month out or whatever, say I'll do it in a month, but I don't trust myself, you guys. i feel like if I said that in two weeks, I might be like, eh, the confidence isn't there or whatever.
00:17:32
Speaker
And so I'm trying to hold on to it. um One of my favorite quotes ever is, this is cheesy, but ah Robin Williams, rest in peace, love him so much, says,
00:17:45
Speaker
you are only given one small spark of madness. You mustn't lose it. um And whenever I have a spark of madness like that, yeah, if you don't, you know, obsess over it to a little bit, like I lose it pretty quickly. I'm just one of those people that that that does that. So um I've held on to the spark for a few days and I said, okay, like,
00:18:09
Speaker
This is it. like if If I don't do it now, we're not doing it. So um yeah, first episode, the quality may not be stellar, but I'm so glad you're still here watching.
00:18:20
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um You didn't click off yet, so it's not that bad, right? You can hear me, you can see me, all the things.
Interactive Segment: Hot Girls Crashing Out Hotline
00:18:27
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um But anyways, I would love to hear from you all. So um comment down below um you know what you're excited about for this podcast.
00:18:36
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um If you want to be a guest, um also let me know. If you're a huge fan of somebody um or you have a fan account or you're an influencer yourself and you're watching, um please let me know. I would love to schedule a time to talk with you. so um Also, something I would love to announce right now, um we are um opening up a hotline. okay and It's called the Hot Girls Crashing Out Hotline.
00:19:07
Speaker
So that's good. The hotline is basically a phone number. It's going to be on the screen. You can call this. You need to save it to your phone. Okay. Because you're using it for emergency purposes only. Okay.
00:19:22
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I want you to call whenever a hot topic drops throughout the week. So like something major happens and you're freaking out about it. Okay. Or you have a hot take.
00:19:35
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Call in and give us that hot take. Give us your reaction to what's going on in the world in that moment. We want it to be like something that's happening like right now. So like, i don't know, like next week, Taylor Swift announces that she's actually putting out Reputation.
00:19:49
Speaker
Please, Taylor, put out Reputation, Taylor's version. um I would love a Swifty to call in and be like, oh my God, I'm so excited. Reputation was my favorite era. um So yeah, Justin...
00:20:01
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to get us started since we don't have any calls yet um what are you crashing out over um niche take probably i don't know but um i'm crashing out because i'm pretty sure ren weaver is dropping a single tomorrow oh your girl yes and she has not had music out for how long i believe tomorrow will be the 10 years since her first album oh my god the album if i recall music is pretty timeless i feel like because i hear you listen to her and i'm like that could be something that was released today or two years ago 10 years ago. you know And the category makes no sense to me because like, it's never like a new artist. You know what I mean? Yeah. But like, I could see her getting like best new artists in like five, 10 years. Like she has that talent.
00:20:40
Speaker
How long? What? Well, I don't know. I mean, maybe this year, like maybe this is the album. Maybe this is the song in the summer. You don't believe in this new album. It doesn't sound like. I did not mean that. But I just think like when people say like best new artist, it almost feels like they have to like be like a mainstream artist for like five years. it's kind of like, yeah, because older singers have career. Chauvin Rohn had been around. Noah Khan had been around. Like, I mean, it would be great if they're just like, wow, we like found this album and it's like literally...
00:21:12
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But I don't know what to get like like, artistry of like the highest caliber. They'd still be like, but like you don't have a label. So we're not going to give you an Oscar. Right. All right. For our next segment of the podcast, this is called the hot girls crashing out.
00:21:28
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hotline. It's a hotline where we want you to call in whenever you have something to crash out over. You don't really have a friend to tell or a bestie to tell um because they just don't get it.
00:21:42
Speaker
You know what i mean? so And we get it here at Club Crave. We are all fangirls. Even if I don't know who the person is like hearing you crash out about your favorite person um is I think entertaining for all of us. And honestly, we can discover new people through it too. So, um so yeah. So basically if your favorite person announces a new album or um your favorite influencer says something problematic and you want to defend them,
00:22:11
Speaker
Or, you know, just anything that's going on um currently, please call us and react and give us the tea because I get it. Like there's times when I see stuff on the Internet and like Justin, my husband, he doesn't know who the person is. So why would I tell him?
00:22:27
Speaker
ah Because it's real interesting to you. um But it's not. It's definitely not. um But it's interesting to us here um at the podcast. And again, if I don't know who it is, like somebody listening is going to know.
00:22:40
Speaker
um And I think it'd be fun to just kind of listen and to hear what you guys have to say. um so yeah. And also call into the the hotline if you just want to chat too. If you give shout out.
00:22:52
Speaker
say hi give a shout- out We would love to have you um and feature your call on the podcast. So yeah, call the hot girls crashing out.
00:23:03
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I'm going to get a hotline today. All right, guys,
Vlogging Adventures and Personal Dynamics
00:23:08
Speaker
today's podcast. I am very excited to introduce my husband, Justin Williams.
00:23:14
Speaker
Everyone say hello. everyone Some of you may know him. He has, I guess you were in the last vlog I posted on my channel. um I posted three different videos.
00:23:24
Speaker
um I thought I was going to vlog every week and then I kind of fell off. But ah um but yeah, you were featured in that vlog and we went to the Cheesecake Factory. we went to the mall. I don't know.
00:23:35
Speaker
We went to... um Not Cheesecake Factory. I almost said Fajoli's. We went to Olive Garden. Olive Garden. I stepped up from Fajoli's. We do go to Cheesecake Factory frequently. not And by frequently, probably like every two years. But like...
00:23:50
Speaker
Yeah. oh Okay. Wow. um This is my husband. We both have ADHD. So when he's on the podcast with me, it's just going to be like ping pong back and forth.
00:24:04
Speaker
A million different topics. But honestly, I think that's what how the girlies are in general. So I think people will find it interesting maybe. yeah If not, like... I don't think they can tell. i think if we didn't tell anyone, they'd like, those are some very neurotypical people on my Spotify streaming platform, whatever you're using. Excuse me? ah what What is like what is like YouTube? like What would you call that? like A video application?
00:24:32
Speaker
Why are you trying to get the scientific name of YouTube? Am I allowed to say YouTube? Yeah. Okay. Oh my God. I'm like, what are you trying to tell me right now? um Anyways, yes, the ADHD, especially right now because we spent the, we both had a hectic two days.
00:24:50
Speaker
We tried to fit in a million things yesterday. So we actually went to the No Kings protest, which maybe some of you also went in your cities because they know it happened all over the world. um And it was great. It was a great time. It was great to see people show out in Nashville and get excited and fired up. And it's first time I felt hopeful in a long time.
00:25:10
Speaker
But then were like, okay, when we get home, I am going to basically set up the entire podcast equipment and set and record and get it out um Sunday morning. And now it's Sunday evening and we're filming the podcast.
00:25:23
Speaker
I promise you all it would be out Sunday. It's out Sunday. um Maybe 11 o'clock, but it's out. And I feel bad because our friend wanted to go get dinner. And now here we are We're still going to get dinner. We will. It's probably going to a Cracker Barrel or a Waffle House or.
00:25:41
Speaker
Yeah. Open late because our Mexican restaurant probably closed. Technically, you just have to drop it drop the podcast on Sunday somewhere. Right. I didn't say certain time. Nashville. Yeah. I didn't say Nashville time. California time. And then if you live on the other side of the world, how you're welcome.
00:26:03
Speaker
So, um yeah, introducing my husband. I'm so glad you're here today. Thank you for being a backup guest. um You're not a backup to me. You are my husband. Love my life.
00:26:15
Speaker
We just plan to have Ben Verde on the podcast um because he is known in the Trish fandom. Not that you aren't. you're People know who you are. But um i felt like Ben, i don't know, kind of would bridge that gap from that, my era that I'm currently in with Trisha and this new era with the podcast.
00:26:36
Speaker
But um i'm so glad you're here. And I think we have a lot to talk about. And in terms of like, you know, you're people that you are fans of, you're a fan of.
00:26:47
Speaker
um I don't know if it necessarily aligns with like the audiences, but maybe we'll have to find out. would. think so actually yeah well i was just thinking about ren weaver i'm like you love her and i'm like who knows her i guess maybe some people know her out there they should it's pretty niche listen well i bring up ren weaver because if they don't know her they should i should know i am very excited yeah we love to discover new artists Like her music's going to hit.
00:27:12
Speaker
um Comes out midnight tonight? What? Midnight tonight or tomorrow? like um ah Reddit didn't say. Okay. So, but I will keep everyone updated and follow me on all Instagram, Facebook. I don't, that's about it. TikTok. Not Facebook. And let you guys know.
00:27:30
Speaker
I got to keep up with the boomers. I got to know what my grandparents are up to. Oh my God. I was like, who uses Facebook? I guess I on there every once in a while. My mom's on Facebook posting pictures of the squirrel her backyard. I got to know what Nutty's to. We love you, Nutty. We're going to be like Trisha just shouting out anything. ah She goes, shout out, like she'll shout out Wendy's.
00:27:52
Speaker
And she should. i don't think Wendy's... mean, not sponsored though, so she's just giving them free advertisement. Support small businesses, local businesses, but also like the Wendy's 4 for 4 is like my kryptonite. I mean, it's a great portion.
00:28:08
Speaker
Exactly. Like four nuggets, that's all I need. And then like, long as they don't forget the dipping sauce... Yeah. I mean, you get what? You get the chicken nuggets? You get like a little burger and then you get... You get a burger and chicken nuggets? It's a tiny, but you get a little... It's like... tiny Because it's four for four. So you get the burger and you get the chicken and you get the drink and you get the fries. That's kind of a nice little smorgasbord thing. telling you. It's a classic. You know, when I was poor, very poor in college, I had my fair share of four for four. So I get it.
00:28:39
Speaker
Yeah. So, yeah, my husband, tell us about yourself. Where are you from? um Also, tell us about what you do. Yeah, so I am from a small town called Avon, Indiana, which, I mean, honestly, none of you would know. But, like, we always joke growing up is that, like, we were... Nick nick always looked down on us because, like, we were just very, like...
Justin's Background and Personal Growth
00:29:04
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pompous I don't know like we were very like we're just like our school's like so big and our marching band is like so good well you guys just yeah but very very bougie we were high school experience and then you go to my small town and my graduating class was maybe 250 and fifty people and like our high school was a square like and it was just like one lap of classrooms like and then you look at something we like avon high school which indiana if you don't know is like basketball is like huge in indiana so like especially high school basketball and i know avon's known for having right the biggest i don't remember us having a good basketball team i mean we had great facilities right that's what i'm saying the biggest stadium right the biggest like basketball stadium was avon high school I have a hard time believing that's true. okay Well, I don't know where I heard that. I want to think you're thinking of Ben Davis. I don't really know. Just name dropping schools, getting into our high school. Who cares? but the um
00:30:02
Speaker
So I grew up in Avalon Orioles. It was bougie school. It really was. No. And like you were talking like your school was small and it was like just a square. like I had to like run to my next class or I would be late. and like We had like seven minute passing periods and it wasn't enough. like It was like crazy. Mine were three minutes.
00:30:18
Speaker
Oh, I would have died. and then I think like eventually somebody came and moved it to four minutes because somebody finally went and told the principal like, Hey, like I can't make it to class. They would have never changed it. what they They couldn't give us any more time. yeah That person had to like walk with the principal and time.
00:30:35
Speaker
Exactly how long it took them to get to their class and then show that he was late to finally make it go four minutes. But before that, they were getting like tardies all the time. But anyways, um sometimes that's what it takes.
00:30:47
Speaker
Sometimes you take. take the people in charge and make them walk with you. Literally. Like, yeah. So that's crazy. Insanity.
00:30:58
Speaker
um but yeah, sorry. So I'm from Avon, Indiana is right next to Indianapolis. Um, and then i think, you know, we've talked about our love story before, we have to get into it. I like, Went to college where he grew up. And then like he posted really cute pictures on Tinder. And I was like, okay, like let's date.
00:31:16
Speaker
And then I fell in love immediately. And he was like, I don't want a second date. You're weird. I did not ever tell you that. And then must have just done a magic spell or something. And now here we are. I love that you glossed over the part where you ghosted me. um But I think you just said...
00:31:38
Speaker
If I was hearing correctly, you said, second date, I didn't want with you, right? That is not true. I was a little hesitant because you gave off hardcore Christian college kid energy, and it was just a little bit triggering for me, and I was not...
00:31:58
Speaker
anywhere in that area. And I was very different. We were very different at the time, um which I don't think was a bad thing. I just think I was a little scared for especially being my first you know so like date dating experience, really. um And also you had ghosted me before, so it was a little weird there too. So yeah, I was like, I don't know about this guy.
00:32:22
Speaker
um But then you proved me otherwise. I don't know when I proved it. cause Because like the thing is, like what did they say? like Never date someone thinking you can change them? you feel like you did that a little bit? Because you got lucky. You did. changed No, no, no. I didn't change you. I changed myself. You came into yourself.
00:32:42
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um You were always this person, I think, deep down. I agree. um i just think that you grew up, again, in a more sheltered community.
00:32:52
Speaker
And also going to a Christian college, like indian Indiana Wesleyan University, ah where, you know there's cults and there's people telling you you're going to hell for being gay. And, you know, the doors are wide open in every room because they want to have their girlfriend over like.
00:33:11
Speaker
It's a weird environment to grow up in. And everybody's worried they're going to hell constantly. I'm like, God, that must have been awful. It's exhausting. And exhausting. Don't worry about that all the time. I'm like, y'all, while I was literally getting blacked out at college parties and in like these frat parties, y'all were like,
00:33:31
Speaker
in bed like shaking because you think you're going to hell because you kissed a boy or something like is this like an okay pivot to like overcompensating maybe I mean yeah we can get into it but I really wanted to get into you first and just like oh I wanted everyone to kind of get to know you a little bit but we definitely are need to get into overcompensating No, absolutely. I think, yeah, I mean, just to like keep it brief, I think like I met you and like, obviously we've lived a great life together. I think like as someone with ADHD, like I don't know if there's, I mean, there's there's a lot to me. I'm an onion, and right? You got to peel all the layers back, but like the Shrek reference, the, is that Shrek?
00:34:07
Speaker
I thought it was The Bachelor. No, they say that in Shrek. He's like, I'm like an onion. So many layers. Wait, what is it? I don't think that's right. Wait, there's something with Shrek and onions and layers.
00:34:19
Speaker
Okay, well, it's also on The Bachelor. Okay. But it's – I would say, like, my outer layer, which is supposed to be, like, for the normal person, is, like, them masking themselves and, like, just kind of adapting to the world. Like, my exterior layer is very, like – I have religious trauma and I'm going to tell you about it. So like, I think we've covered like the most important topic. So we hit it. Good. Good. we had I could, i mean, if y'all are interested, I'll write a book one day. I think about the things I've seen. and
00:34:51
Speaker
Your dream also, or something that you've always thought about doing was making a podcast or writing a book about your experiences. And, yeah um, I would love for you to do that one day. I think that would, um, impact a lot of people. And, um,
00:35:03
Speaker
So yeah, if any of you guys are on that religious trauma journey and you're unlearning and you are realizing you can just kind of be yourself and don't worry about what the church thinks or what God really thinks because they tell us God loves everyone. And I think that's true.
00:35:18
Speaker
And I think, you know, if there is a God, why would he make you go to hell for just loving someone? You know what i mean? Absolutely. It's crazy that there's people out there, especially here in Tennessee,
00:35:30
Speaker
um that disagree with that and it's 2025 almost 2026 already did you realize we're almost halfway no we're over halfway through 2025 well yeah and that was the only other thing i was going to add about myself is like the the podcast for me i mean i'll be on your podcast whenever you want you just hit me up if you know you try to have someone on and they're like oh no i'm sick then like well fine i'll be you can put me on again no i know like literally love ben um but I do not have time right now, right? Because I'm just like burnt out and like working. Oh, to do your own thing. Basically like from morning to night because I have my internship and then I have work yeah and I have school. So yeah, Justin's... And all the things.
00:36:14
Speaker
He's going to school for social work. He's working on his master's. um and he's very busy all the time because he also has a full-time job at a hospital here in
Exploring Pop Culture and Media Connections
00:36:24
Speaker
Nashville. so But we're doing the thing. But you're killing it. You are doing great, and um somehow you're upright, so that's all that matters. And then and your grades are great.
00:36:33
Speaker
And that I still somehow find time for pop culture, which is also, you know... You're welcome. I really want to talk about overcompensating. so Let's talk about overcompensating. um Okay, so, yeah. that's um Something that...
00:36:47
Speaker
I think if you haven't watched overcompensating yet, you need to get on it. It's a great show. think if you're in your... I feel like anywhere from mid twenties to like mid thirties would like relate hardcore to the college experience in overcompensating.
00:37:02
Speaker
Um, you related to a lot in it. Um, except, you know, like the party scene and stuff like that. Like you didn't experience that going to Indian Westland. Um, just because that it's not a party school.
00:37:14
Speaker
Um, but somewhere like where I went to ball state university, um, very much, you know, that was my experience growing up and like, going to college and saying, like, I'm gay. Like, ah you know, that was like my awakening was in college. Like, I think I'd kind of known and then it's like, you kind of push it away. And it's just like, you overcompensate by, you know, trying to be a manly man or like, um fit in with all the guys or join a frat. I didn't ever try to join a frat, thank God. But i know a lot of gays did.
00:37:48
Speaker
to because they want to prove to themselves that they're more of a man or whatever so but that was like kind of the thing is like you had the party experience because you went to a normal college like yeah a normal person and then i went to a christian college but like i still experienced the hazing i was basically in a fraternity yeah even though we didn't have them on campus so like the parts that like you didn't relate to as much were like the parts that like i was like no they they did this very accurately as well um I just felt like it was so clever. It was brilliant. All of the references to like, I mean, I, I will always say that like, I'm, I was born in 98. Like I am Gen Z and like people can say I'm in denial, but like I'm too addicted to my phone to say otherwise.
00:38:27
Speaker
Um, but like, I like to say, you know, stay young forever. So, you know, we're the customers, but I'm going to go Gen Alpha actually. my God, you can't skip years. But like that said, like I identify as Gen Z, but also like my upbringing, like I saw my dad's floppy disk. I know who Britney Spears is. Everyone should know that. But like the millennial humor was still it was so really good. Yeah.
00:38:53
Speaker
um I think I told you this, and again, I have to be careful because I know your whole fan base is like, like Stans Trisha, but like, I did not understand the Black Parade song. Like every time she did it, I was like, this just was never my vibe.
00:39:08
Speaker
And then they'd say it on overcompensating. And I think we went to the Trisha concert and Nashville after watching it. yeah And so when Trisha did that number, like I was like almost in tears. Like it just. Welcome to the Black Parade. Yeah. Yeah. I'm obsessed now.
00:39:21
Speaker
um Yeah. Okay. So you, um yeah, well, I guess let's not get into Trisha's story just yet. We'll get to that. um I overcompensating. Yeah. I just want to like say this Benny Benito Skinner guy, Benny drama.
00:39:39
Speaker
um hi bety I cannot believe i did not know who this was before because now I'm like discovered who he is. I've totally like gone through all of his old videos and just watched like everything. And I'm still there's still so much content out there. He put out so much.
00:39:55
Speaker
um He's like a comedian. I think he did stand up for a while. um I know he did stuff with Comedy Central and then like COVID. He did a lot of skits. online. um And like there's videos for like every astrological sign. like If you're dating a Virgo, this is what Virgos are like.
00:40:11
Speaker
um And he did the whole cosplay thing. Very Trisha-coded, if you will. um So yeah, they're they're all very entertaining. And also, like he's gorgeous, which is crazy because I feel like gorgeous people sometimes are just not... You just can't find gorgeous people funny sometimes. Is that bad?
00:40:28
Speaker
It's almost like Matt Reif. Like... don't know. He was never funny for a lot of different reasons. But like, I feel like gorgeous people just like, you just can't. I don't know. they're just I can't come up with the counterpoint. they don't have that personality. I will say like when we start like the first couple episodes of overcompensating, like we just kind of like went right into it. Like we didn't do any research. So we're watching this. And I think we were both kind of like, why did they like cast the straight guy to play the gay guy?
00:40:55
Speaker
Oh, yeah. And then we realized that's just how good of an actor he is. Because like then we look him up and like he's the funniest person like on the planet. And he's gay, yeah. Yeah. So it's just like...
00:41:07
Speaker
Yeah, i don't I don't know anything other than that. is i think like I wouldn't necessarily say, like oh, like he's like conventionally attractive. He must like not be funny. But also, like i know I didn't expect him to be like as relatable, maybe, that like he is. That's yeah true. Yeah, I feel like people like that are usually assholes. I'm just going to say it. People that look out of that pretty um but yeah anyways benny drama you're iconic um loved overcompensating and can't wait to see like what this all takes him like um because now he's you know it's i'm sure doing really well and it's relating with an entire generation and all the girlies and the gays out there um if you haven't watched it i don't know why you haven't watched it yet it because it's gone viral right like do you think most people have seen it or no
00:41:56
Speaker
I think if I like can go back in time, I think like Charlie XCX, her song came like had its resurgence right of like Party For You, which I was like, okay, that's like cool. I love a TikTok sound.
00:42:09
Speaker
And then like I didn't realize it until like a couple weeks later. That was because of overcompensating. right So I think it's almost having like just I don't want don't want to say exponential, but like the growth, I think, is still happening. i think there's a lot of people that don't know about it yet, but I think like it's still on the rise. I think like people are... Yeah.
00:42:27
Speaker
I think by the end of the year, people will be like, wow, this was like the best show of... so good um yeah the ending was kind of crazy though like i feel like you know spoilers well yeah i don't want to spoil it but it's just kind of like everyone wants season two and it's it's a cliffhanger i guess so it's a good cliffhanger yeah but it's like oh really that's the way it ended but am i allowed to to cuss on your podcast yes i mean i'll leave it it pisses me a off okay yes yeah so hayley we got to get into hayley um
00:43:00
Speaker
What's the actor's name that plays Hayley? Holmes. Holmes. They um and an incredible actor as well. Incredible actor as well. um Total transformation from their actual personality. Because she was another one where I just went into the show thinking, like oh my gosh, all these play people are just playing themselves. yeah And then you look them up and you're like, oh my God. Holmes is so different than Hayley. Brilliant actor. Incredible comedian. and love i have to say with the Hayley character, there were so many girls in college that...
00:43:30
Speaker
I knew like Haley, it was very accurate drunk party girls that like when she walks into the room where they're all trying to find their roommates and she's goes, uh, roomy ass bitch.
00:43:43
Speaker
Like I had so many girlfriends like that. um and they were so open about their sexual life. Like, I mean, great, whatever. Um, but like, they'll tell you every, every little detail about what happened.
00:43:57
Speaker
um, um Yeah, I just, that was such a great character and I feel like represented so many different people. um But yeah, the the show overall, like, it's just so impactful and did such a great job at like describing what college is like as a millennial or as a Gen Z and specifically growing up and like coming out and being gay during that. But it's also, i think what's really cool with overcompensating is that it's, um supposed to be relatable for everyone, right? Because everyone's overcompensating in some way. No, absolutely. i think, you know, controversial. I think even like...
00:44:37
Speaker
Towards, like, the middle, they're, like, trying to kind of make you feel bad for the straight guy, too. And you're, like, okay, like, I guess, like, everyone has their own issues and, like, we should have empathy. but like, you know what i mean? So it is, I mean, I think that's what's really good about the show, though, is, like, it is for the gays. But, like, it's also, like, it is something that, like, has a message for everyone. And I just, like...
00:45:01
Speaker
ah We watched that on one-year anniversary in Gatlinburg. And I think it's also ah one of the reasons it's going to go down. It was one of the best trips that we've taken. so Honestly, when you are on a trip somewhere and like a new piece of media comes out that you can fully consume and fully like feel a new location. dogs barking in the background. Yeah, no dogs or like anything like that.
00:45:24
Speaker
Behind you, if you want to grab it is the Solar Power album cover. um out Solar Power came out yeah when we were i feel like I'm on like Jimmy Fallon and Lorde is performing her new album or her new song Solar Power um anyways this album came out when we were on our um trip to a resort called Miraval and that was like a trip that I won on the Kelly Clarkson show shout out Kelly Clarkson thank you for that trip
00:45:58
Speaker
um our benefactor um solar power came out and whenever i hear this album now i think of um just how in love we were i mean we're obviously still in love but you know just like that young relationship like uh honeymooning kind of love um but yeah anyways that album means a lot to us and her new album is called virgin coming out at end the month I am such a big Lorde fan. I'm so excited.
00:46:26
Speaker
If I were to call into the Hot Girls Crashing Out hotline, I would call and crash out about Lorde. Lorde is my girl. I met her way back during the melodrama days. And melodrama, i was like hardcore into that album when it first came out.
00:46:41
Speaker
It really didn't do that well at first. Like, go to the tour, the balconies were like empty. It was crazy. And Lorde is this like, and I feel like in the gays and the girls, we are in our mind, she's like this.
00:46:56
Speaker
She's right up there with Taylor and stuff like that. But she's like really more a lot more niche than that. The people are not prepared. I think that we have been talking about. i mean, for me, current song of the summer, i would still say like, what's the one Sabrina just dropped?
00:47:12
Speaker
Man-eater? Because I was about say man-eater, too, actually. That's crazy. Man-killer? Man-hater? man Definitely not. No. But it's man-something.
Music Obsessions and Cultural Reflections
00:47:21
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Man-
00:47:24
Speaker
so like Man child. That is correct. So I think people are sleeping on man child a little bit, which I mean, maybe yeah being dramatic. I get that it's not espresso, but like it's good. it hits. I think it's when singer puts out like what's supposed to be the next song of the summer, because sometimes artists can keep that going for a while. And Sabrina, unfortunately, like this song is not song of the summer material.
00:47:50
Speaker
Okay, I get you. I think it has the potential to be. I think people just said, like, we want someone else. I think that's what happened. yeah I think the song could have been the song of the summer. i mean, maybe on another timeline, yeah. Maybe, yeah. we can Don't get me started on timelines, because I'll go off. um the Well, like just how like it's a thing. That's like my conspiracy theory. What's the thing? That there's like alternate timelines.
00:48:12
Speaker
we getting What do you mean by alternate timelines? What is that? I don't know how like the physics works because I hated physics, but like I think like right now like Above me or like, you know, because like it would be like a fourth or fifth dimensional thing So like in a direction we can't comprehend is like where like we're yeah on this podcast right now talking about how like Kamala is our president like Yeah, I think um Like I saw something about it. It's little bit dilution. Like Dr. Strange said something about timelines and it made sense. So like that's just kind of, you know.
00:48:51
Speaker
Everyone, if you start thinking that there's another timeline that you should be living on, i think it's time to take a step back. Because listen, right wing pipeline.
00:49:03
Speaker
No, it's not Right Wing Pipeline because listen, no. I am glad. I'm actually glad that I'm on this timeline. Okay. But it gives me a sense. If I thought there were other timelines, I would not be happy to be on this timeline.
00:49:16
Speaker
No, but hear me out. It gives me... ah This isn't going to make the podcast, Harry, no. You never know. if if if i can convince myself that there's another version of me living in bliss that encourages me that like makes me feel like I was meant to be here creating bliss for others while still getting bliss somewhere else
00:49:47
Speaker
all I can think of is that chocolate called bliss and where did it go was that a thing was that just like a flavor was that like a diva
00:49:56
Speaker
Diva? Godiva? It's Godiva? Oh my god. Wait, okay. There's never been a Diva chocolate, but there was a Bliss chocolate, right? You're like scratching something in my brain. Like, I think you're right, but I don't know. Wait a second, you guys.
00:50:10
Speaker
I remember growing up and it was like, Bliss. The chocolate tastes like bliss. I'm pretty sure it was like, I think it's Skodiva. That could be a Mandela effect, but also right-wing pipeline. We're not trying to get down that. they' Right-wing pipeline is not as crazy as you think it is.
00:50:28
Speaker
Okay, listen, if you're into conspiracies, I think that's right-wing pipeline. It's just be careful. I just say tread easy. You think that it's wrong for people to think that the fruit of the loom used to have a cornucopia. I'm just telling you that if you get too much into that, that's going to lead to thinking that earth is flat.
00:50:47
Speaker
And then that's going to get you to think, yeah, Karen Colby thinks that. um and that's right wing pipeline it literally it will get your brain but getting stuck on conspiracies watch that bookshelf honey sorry and i'm just telling you before you know it you're gonna be watching fox news and you're gonna be voting trump third term oh my god sorry so i got on the whole timeline thing and then you had to get on your little like what's it called like when you get on like a hot topic I'm crashing out, honey. that where It's our show. We crash out here. But I do We don't rant. There's no soapboxes. We crash out.
00:51:24
Speaker
Oh, there we go. so a Soapbox is what... Yeah, I was like i was going soapbox. That's not what we're doing. um But I think Sabrina Carpenter, it won't be the song of the summer, but she had the opportunity to be, and that's what i was trying to say, is in another timeline, it is the song of the summer, was how we got all that started. But I also think I'm seeing a lot of, like, i Love You by Marina, so I think that that could, if the gays do their job, could become a the song of the summer. Okay.
00:51:52
Speaker
ah that one go? Sing it a little bit. And I'm like holding out hope for like... How does I Love You go? I love you and I know you want me to. Okay. It's like... And then it has like the little like Madonna Vogue part. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It is good. and I just feel like Song of the Summer, Where Are You?
00:52:10
Speaker
wow That's crazy. Marina. I mean, it could have been, but I still don't feel like the album. I mean, it's good, but ah and it's not giving song of the summer. They all kind of sound same. But you know what i mean? The only reason it's not giving song of the summer is because people don't appreciate good music.
00:52:25
Speaker
Like Marina gave a 10 out of 10 album and everyone's just sleeping. Like that's the problem. But do you know what Song of the Summer? Joy, happiness. you No, it's it's um it's a mixture of different things. Joy and happiness, definitely. Sure, one of them.
00:52:41
Speaker
um Good marketing. Where's the marketing? Brad Summer, that's a master class in summer bops. um I just feel like nobody's wanting that Song of the Summer. like If you want Song of the Summer, you need to want it. and You need to to put out the content. You need to market it.
00:52:58
Speaker
You need to make sure it's relevant to people. I don't know. I feel like, um, man eater. What is it called again? Oh my God. Well, and that, sorry, that was my last point was like, I think the song of the summer should be, I love you by Marina.
00:53:14
Speaker
And I think that Lord is going to give us what we are looking for. i hope so. I think. but But that does require, so if you're defining song of the summer as something that defines the summer and isn't necessarily like a party anthem, then Lorde can deliver that, because I think she's going to give us something very sad and meaningful, but also like melancholy and... like yeah I don't know how to say it. What's the word for like when you're sad, but it's like beautiful? It's like sadad, or sadade?
00:53:41
Speaker
Okay, I don't know that. But that's what she's going to give us. Sad, beautiful, tragic by Taylor Swift is a great song that could definitely describe that feeling. That's crazy because usually I know all the Taylor songs. I know.
00:53:55
Speaker
You don't know Sad, Beautiful, Tragic? I've listened to it. I don't know how it goes right now in my head. That's okay. We don't want to get copyright stricken, so i won't sing it for you because I just sound too much like Taylor. Right. That's why. um Okay. Well, we need to pivot to our next topic really quickly. Oh, yes. Okay. Because we need to wrap things up here.
00:54:11
Speaker
um You're not going to deliver people a two-hour podcast? No, I think we're gonna stick it around an hour. okay If we go over, that's okay too. um But like an hour I think is like, is good for this.
00:54:22
Speaker
Sure. I don't want to commit to too much. um fair Our next topic we need to get into Trisha Paytas, Heirs of Trish Show, coming to an end.
00:54:34
Speaker
Congratulations, Trisha. um Congrats on ending the tour and congrats on an amazing tour and seeing so many cities and so many people. think she said over 100,000 people showed up to the Heirs of Trish Tour.
00:54:48
Speaker
How many? Sorry? Over 100,000. 100,000 people. So like our big stadium out here in Nashville, the Nissan Stadium, it fits 60,000. So that just shows you how many people went to the Airs of Trisha. Almost double that. so um So yeah, congrats, Trisha, on this huge accomplishment. We're so excited for the baby, um baby boy. And it's he's coming next month. Are we officially like past Gemini and we're into cancer?
00:55:16
Speaker
um i don't know the day What's today's date? We're not quite. Sorry. No, we've got a few days left. So hopefully that baby decides to just kind of stay for another week or two because it and it needs to be a water sign.
00:55:30
Speaker
um Well, then that would make so much sense. And sorry, I shouldn't like use it, but he... It. Calling the baby it. My bad, guys. Yeah, and I feel like it's okay.
00:55:42
Speaker
You use pronouns for babies, right? Until they tell you otherwise. They don't want to that, right? That's true. don't want assume, but I should at least use they. I should at least humanize baby. I love how we're just assuming that Trisha's baby boy is going to be like a non-binary icon.
00:55:55
Speaker
I don't think we're going to get something. I think everyone... default yeah I don't understand. Maybe this is me being problematic, but shouldn't everyone use they pronouns? I think... No, no, no. I don't think it's problematic. I just think it's not the norm right now.
00:56:08
Speaker
But it easily could end up that
Gender Pronouns and Inclusivity Discussion
00:56:10
Speaker
way, yeah. Like, the only reason I don't put, like, he, they in my bio is because, like, I feel like... I don't know why I don't. but like I thought about doing that too.
00:56:19
Speaker
Because it's like, I don't care really. Exactly. And also, like i don't I think there's a stigma around the pronoun thing, which I don't know if we'll ever get past Republicans ah like right. We have to imagine a future where we can't. Timelines. it was just timeline ah Not the right wing pipeline. um I just feel like...
00:56:43
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The pronoun thing is just like such a non-issue. And these people make to be such a big deal. Like, God forbid somebody just wants to be they.
00:56:57
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It's insanity, or honestly. And like like and like they're like making it this issue in their mind that it is not an issue. You have two options when somebody says... um Please use they, them as my pronouns, right?
00:57:09
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you have Your first option is to be so confused. How is this even possible? Why would I ever call them they? That's so grammatically incorrect. Or, um you know, back in my day, we never talked like this.
00:57:25
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Or two, okay. And then you just call them by the they, them. That's literally it. um How many names do remember of all the people that you're in your life, right?
00:57:36
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You remember their names. Why can't you remember she, or they, right? Well, even if like you make a mistake, like most of the time, like everyone's going to be like... like they'll correct you and they'll be like, oh, my bad. Why do you have to be like... ah rubb up right You know what i mean? like It's just... It's just because it's not the norm. I mean, people are just so scared of different and so scared. And it's just crazy because we live in a city and we push ourselves to go out in the world and like see people. and like I'm so proud of us. Be around different kinds of people. I'm not trying to gas this up. I'm just saying like...
00:58:11
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that's just how people should be like all these people living in small towns they just don't see anything different so then they're just scared of everything different i guess i just i don't understand how you can immediately go to this person's different than me they identify a little bit differently than me so this must be scary they're gonna and that's the thing too like i mean i guess i can kind of get it in the sense that like i used to be for lack of a better word like ah ah Like a little bit of a masochist. I just don't know what other word to say, but where it's like, I enjoyed feeling terrible and miserable and sad.
00:58:45
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So like, I get how that feeling is addictive, but like you're, you're literally like making yourself so stressed and raising your blood pressure. You're probably going to die sooner because like, you're not healthy. You're raising your cortisol levels. Yeah.
00:58:59
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I think Fox News is elder abuse for many reasons. Yeah, but it's just one brainwashing and then two. Yeah, it's making everybody mad over nothing. Like do I do people do I want literally like bad miserable people to like have a good life? Not necessarily, but like it's in their control to do so. I think everyone.
00:59:19
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Well, yeah, I can't say that. ah say i think everyone should have I was going to say, I think everyone should have a good life too. But like, there are some really bad, awful things that people are supporting right now. So it's like, why why should they get, you know, a comfortable life when they can treat other people and make other people have terrible lives? off. Yeah.
00:59:44
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00:59:46
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um If you aren't watching the Delta work podcast, shout out Delta work. Are you proud of me though? That's my first drag race reference. This entire podcast. I've been holding it is is very much into drag. Okay. Let's do one more topic. We'll do drag race. Sure. All stars.
01:00:01
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um But we were on Trisha heirs of Trish tour. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. um So yeah, the areas of Trish tour is over. I went to five shows altogether. Shout out me. wo And then I went to Trishmas and I went to the Broadway show. And the past year I've seen Trish seven times and I did a meet and greet twice. So, um...
Inspiring Authentic Content Creation
01:00:25
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Yeah, I just, ah it was an incredible journey. And, you know, I talked to about it on my TikTok, but I just am so thankful for um everyone who followed Oscar Crave's journey on that and had a lot of fun just consuming the content that I put out and the different edits that I make. And and I'm not going anywhere. I'm still going to run Oscar Crave.
01:00:47
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But when Trish ended her tour, I was just kind like, dang, what am I going to do next? And I told her that. um And the reason... why I'm so motivated and confident is because she literally said to me, she was like, Nick, people really enjoy your content. Like people really like what you're doing. So like, I think you should just keep posting.
01:01:05
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Um, and I was like, okay, the queen of the internet tells you to keep posting and to keep making content. Um, you can't say no to the blueprint. you know what I mean? Like when has Trisha a Midwestern girlies were twins in that way.
01:01:20
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that you're what midwest from because she's from illinois yeah chicago specifically um outside of chicago yeah okay yeah i i kind of feel like but a small town outside of chicago i don't know if i've ever met anyone from illinois that's not from chicago not to get back into conspiracy theories but is it just no there are people out from other parts okay um yeah i know people from other areas but yeah i know what you mean Um, but yeah, sorry. Aeris tour, Trisha. Oh, um, she has, i was just going to say like, Trisha has never been like, oh, it might not be popular.
01:01:57
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oh it might not be the right thing to post or whatever. And like, it's never stopped her. So like, I do think that there's like an important theme there of like, I think we live in a world too, where it's like, I think you touched on this where like,
01:02:12
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we've been taught that all we're supposed to do is consume. yeah And that like something like making a podcast or creating content or being influenced or like it's something that's like elitist. And I, I would say,
01:02:24
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I don't think it's even about the views and anything. I think it's just like, like for me right now, like this is filling me up talking with you and I'm having a great time. And I think like, if you're watching this and you're like, oh, but like it it won't go anywhere whatever, like number one, you don't know, like it could, but number two, like if it will bring you joy and it's something that's like meaningful to you, like make it. And I think that that's like,
01:02:45
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how we act like people. I'm seeing lot of people. Sorry. I know this isn't a political podcast, oh we just keep going back to but I mean, we're gay. It happens. Yeah. And I think I've seen a lot of content online where it's like, okay, cool. Like you're going to the no Kings protest, like that thing's going to happen.
Authenticity as Resistance
01:03:00
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And like, I think that's kind of like sometimes how I can get when it comes to like, speaking out online or like creating content, but like just being yourself and being authentic, I think is revolutionary in itself.
01:03:12
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Us being authentically gay on here and me laughing like a psychopath, I think in a small way does make the world a better place. So like, even if you're, oh and the camera cut again, but I just, uh, yeah, I don't really care if you like, don't think that you have people that would watch. I think that you'd be surprised.
01:03:34
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Um, and I love your setup. I think it's really cute, but I don't think you even need a setup. I think just like get a little mic on, even if you have like an iPhone 4, just get it out and record and share what you have with the world. I think it's important. I think everyone should be doing more content.
01:03:49
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Future of the Podcast and Gratitude
01:03:50
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right. Well, um this is the end of the episode. Justin, thank you for coming and joining me today, making the short commute to the office here. um You have a lovely home, by the way. Oh, thank you. Yeah. um Yeah, I put this set together very quickly, hung this wallpaper yesterday.
01:04:07
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um i hope you guys like it. I might try to, you know, change it up or improve it it here and there a little bit. And yeah, maybe my little booboos will change out as I get new ones. I thought you were cutting yourself off.
01:04:20
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listen no i do have a big into energy coming so okay um speaking of labubus um we have an exciting guest coming up um i'm excited personally yeah and i don't know if it's going to be next week's episode um he's going to come on um but i will give you a hint about the person i'm not going to tell you his name just yet are they like really big on tiktok too Um, yeah, he's, he's starting to blow up. by Um, if there's an, a like a labubu influencer, it's him. So, um, the hint I have, I guess, is that he has a doctorate in labubu economics. Oh my God. And, um, we actually connected online.
01:04:59
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Um, and he knows, um, Trisha and Oscar and is a fan of the podcast. Um, so we connected online over that. And then, um, yeah, then I DMed him and I was just like, Hey, thank you for your support for Oscar crave. Cause he was supportive over there and asked him to, to come on my podcast and he hadn't even seen an episode yet and he agreed to it. So I'm excited to have him on.
01:05:20
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And then another guest that I have coming on, i guess a hint I can give is, um, she's the queen of McBling. So, um, look out for, um, future episodes. We've got exciting guests already. You got it stacked. Honestly. Um, it's a great, it's a great time and to, uh, to, Hop on if you're interested in being on the podcast, if there's any influencers out there that want to come on and talk about. um you know i What I want to do with these influencers is really get into their subgenre of the internet, their corner.
01:05:50
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Talk about what kind of people live on that corner of the internet. um Talk about just like the the content they make and get to know them. And talk about their futures and what it's like being a girly person.
01:06:03
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We're gay or straight. We accept the straights here too. um That's right. We love we love the straights. so um This was a fun time. Thank you for joining.
01:06:14
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um And I hope you get excited about the next ah episodes. Please leave a comment. um Call that hotline, y'all. If you're crashing out this week about anything, please think of us. and We want to hear and and play that on the next episode. Please give us at least a few because we don't want to show up next episode and i have any calls to go through.
01:06:35
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um But let me just make sure we've covered everything here. oh yeah. We've got to shout ourselves out on the socials. um Follow Club Crave on TikTok. at Club Crave. On Instagram, I'm Club Crave Media.
01:06:49
Speaker
um And then, Justin, what where can people find you? Yeah, I'm not making content as frequently. If you like to see lots of political posts on people's stories, you can follow me on Instagram. That's Justin Noah Williams, my full name. And as we said, I'm also on Facebook. I think I make some pretty great playlists on Spotify. Okay.
01:07:10
Speaker
I don't really know what my at is on there, but if you like music, maybe I'll figure that out. Other than that, just follow me on Instagram. That's about all there is. Yeah, and you've got, you know, we've talked about...
01:07:21
Speaker
You might do a podcast one day. so Maybe. we'll keep everyone in the loop if he gets that started. If you have religious trauma and, like, you want to be on a podcast but Nick's is, like, a little bit too fun and you would rather talk about, like, serious traumatic things and all that. Well, I think they can listen to both. who Let me know. As they should, absolutely. But that's that's my niche is talking about religion and why it's bad. Okay, great.
01:07:49
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if you're He's already ready to pop off about an hour. Well, we we're closing out the show, honey. I'm sorry, but we'll do a whole episode on that if you want. But it's got to intertwine with the internet somehow. um I could figure it out.
01:08:00
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Yeah. um All right. And if you don't mind, give us a review on Spotify and Apple Music or wherever you're listening to. Give us a review. It does help.
01:08:11
Speaker
Push it out to more people and it really does support us over here. um We are a mom and shop podcast, mom and pop, actually pop and pop. Yeah. Shop um style podcast. We DIY right now, but we want to get some more equipment. We want to get some more decor. We want it to get make it a little bit more cutesy in here. Maybe upgrade some of the equipment.
01:08:32
Speaker
but um But this is us right now. So again, thank you for watching and thank you for being a part of this. um And I think as time goes on, I won't be so rigid and nervous. I think I just need to relax. it You came into yourself towards the end. You were very nervous at the beginning and now I'm like seeing you shine. so Yeah, I feel like I definitely am relaxing a little bit more now. Absolutely. um But um now now that we're here at the end, like you said. But um but anyways, thanks for watching.
01:08:59
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I love you all. And we need an outro. Like sing?
Playful Farewells and Sign-offs
01:09:04
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Welcome to the club. Thank you for coming. What do people say like if you leave the club? like Bye, Diva.
01:09:10
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Bye, Diva. Have a great day. You're so awesome. You're a slay. Slay the house down boots. Okay, let's just stick with bye, Diva. Oh, like at the same time?
01:09:23
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Bye, Diva. That was terrible. Three, two, one. Bye, Diva.