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Juventus Transfer News Deep Dive: Teun Koopmeiners, Jadon Sancho, Jean-Clair Todibo, Federico Chiesa & More (Ep. 434)
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From state of play regarding Teun Koopmeiners and Jadon Sancho negotiations to the futures of Matias Soule, Federico Chiesa and Dusan Vlahovic to rumored links to Albert Gudmundsson as well as Paul Pogba, Manuel Locatelli, Wojciech Szczęsny and all other Bianconeri players and much, much more in this hour long Juventus transfer market deep dive with TuttoJuve.com and Radio Bianconera journalist and broadcaster Mirko Di Natale.
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Transcript
Introduction and Guest Introduction
00:00:02
Speaker
Welcome to the Italian Football Podcast. Hello, everybody, and welcome to the Italian Football Podcast, the official podcast of Football Italia. I'm Carlo Garganese. Today we are continuing our Mercato deep dive series where we go through all the major clubs in Serie A and outline their transfer plans for the summer. Today we are doing Juventus and to help us do that, I'm delighted to welcome onto the show one of the best Juventus transfer journalists around Mirko Dinatale. Mirko works for tutouvei.com and is the host of Radio Bianconera. Mirko, thank you so much for for joining us. How are you doing? Ciao ciao guys. Nice to meet you again and I hope both up fine. i'm ah I'm ready for ah for for this podcast ah and thank you for your invitation.
00:00:55
Speaker
Yeah, thank you. It's a big pleasure for us to have you on.
Juventus Summer Transfer Activities
00:00:58
Speaker
um So, it's going to be quite a busy one because Juventus have already been very active in the Mercato. They have a new manager, Thiago Moza. They have already signed ah Douglas Luiz, Miguel de Gregorio, Kefren Suram. Then we have, in terms of players being sold, Enzo Baronecea, Samuel Ililing Jr., Kony de Winter, Caio George. Felix Correa, Moisa Ken and of course, Aleksandro and Adrian Rabio have already left at the end of their contracts. So what we will do to start with is go through um the players the other players who could leave Juventus and then we will look at the players who Juventus could still sign.
Wojciech Chesney's Complicated Transfer Situation
00:01:43
Speaker
Great. Ciao, Mirko. This is Nima, and thank you again for joining us. I mean, let's start and work our way through the Juventus squad. Let's start with the goalkeeper. Wojciech Chesney, Michaela de Grigorio has been unveiled as the new number one. Chesney is going to leave Juve. He's been in talks with Al Nasser, Cristiano Ronaldo's team in Saudi Arabia. How close is this transfer to being done? Ciao, Onima. It's a great pleasure to speak with you. and No, I haven't any more news ah on shares in the Al Nasser. I speak a few weeks ago. I learned and that the deal had become complicated and this is due to the fact that that the Al Nasser never sent a real offer.
00:02:32
Speaker
ah for 5-6 million that want Juventus.
Dean Hosson's Valuation and Interest from Clubs
00:02:37
Speaker
They reached the an agreement with Vojte Shazny for two years of contract to 19 million for a year. And perhaps ah ah maybe they hope that Juventus would let the tech leave for free agent, okay? ah But at least today this will not happen. And I know that the parties are a fighting solution. Shazny leave surely Juventus in everything, case.
00:03:11
Speaker
OK, OK, that's interesting. um Let's look looking at the defence. Dean Hosson, is he for sale and how much do Juventus want for him? ah At least 40 million. This is the the request for Juventus for him. OK, so which clubs are interested? i've heard We've heard of PSG. Is that true? It's not surely PSG that the the they have the context in last days ah with the the International 1000, the East Camp, but there are many other clubs interested ah as Bayern Munich in Germany, Leipzig, Stuttgart, BDB, Dortmund and in England ah the the last club
00:03:59
Speaker
have requested information ah on our houses, is Aston Villa, also Liverpool and Newcastle are interested to guys. ah There are many, many other ah many other clubs, also Atalanta, but Atalanta in this moment, is for Atalanta, isn't the odd option in defence. What about, um could he be an option to be inserted for the Atalanta deal for Koop miners? um No, I don't believe this ah because it's not the other option for Atalanta.
Juventus Players: Market Status and Potential Transfers
00:04:35
Speaker
And Atalanta, for Cup minus, wants only cash.
00:04:40
Speaker
only sixty At least $60 million for the players. What about Federico Gatti? Is he for sale and has there been any offers for him? How much do you want? No, Agati is not for sale in this moment. I know that Everton and Newcastle have asked the information for him in mind the last weeks, but there is no offer on the table of Juventus. Juventus are asking ah in the case, ah could be asking, sorry, around 25-30 million for his defence.
00:05:16
Speaker
What about Mateo de Shilio and Daniel Erugani? Are they both on the market and is there any interest in them? Mate di Sio is out 100%, okay? I'm sure that the Sio live Juventus this year. ah The percent 12 for Rugani is a little lower. ah Rugani can only live if ah we'll arrive an offer for five, six million. In my information in this moment, ah from information in my in my
00:05:51
Speaker
On my end, in this moment, there isn't a club for the ad for it. No clubs to close the scene of Rugan in this moment. Okay. What about Thiago Jallor? What's the plans there? Will he stay or he will he be sold or loaned out? What's the plans? Thiago Jallor could stay at Juventus from my information at two weeks ago, but a one someone to stay to play next season. Otherwise, I'm a good good candidate for the role. I was going to say you can start.
00:06:28
Speaker
I'm experienced. I'm 32 weeks ago. I'm a very experienced. ah I am ah ah very ah but good to do to the role. ah And if Marta won't, I am ah available for for the role. You're a fantastic dancer. I've seen on WhatsApp when you put on stories, you do fantastic dance moves.
00:06:54
Speaker
Well, probably be better than a Western McKinney. So let' let's move let's move on to the midfield now. Another good dancer, McKinney. Another good dancer. Good at dancing, not so good at football. um that's but That's me joking, of course. um So, Weston McKenney, he rejected a move to Aston Villa as part of the the swap deal for ah Douglas Luiz. Instead, ah we saw that Berenicea was inserted there as well, along with Illing Junior. But Juventus still wants to sell him. So, is there any interest from other clubs right now for McKenney? And again, how much do Juventus want in order to sell him?
00:07:35
Speaker
Yes, I can confirm that McCann is out of Juventus plans in this moment and for the right offer um around 20-25 million, so 20 more bonds ah ah around 25 million. ah the same. ah I think that Juventus could be very happy to sell him. um Real offers in this moment, no? And I know that the the parties are working about this possible possible deal. ah The only club that I have very, very real interest that I know.
00:08:13
Speaker
Fenerbahce, Fenerbahce are asking different Juventus players, ah for example Meccani, Phil Costic, maybe Arturmelo, could be a good chance ah ah for Fenerbahce that two players but in this moment no offers. And you mentioned there, Philip Kostich. We know that Kostich is for sale. Other than Fennebachi, is there any other clubs that are interested in him? And again, how much do you they want for Kostich? For Kostich, I think 10 million. 8-10 million.
00:08:51
Speaker
Surely, I know that the Crystal Palace in the Premier League have been interested because he's an actual coach, Glazner, that he trained in the Philippines two or three years ago and could be interested to to convince ah Philip ah to accept ah the the destination. But in this moment, also Mecane had also caused an for him. And Arthur Mello, again, you said that there's interest from Fennebache.
00:09:29
Speaker
um What do you think will happen with Arthur Miller? Because Juventus have found it very difficult to sell him in the last years. He's on a very big contract. He has a very, well, until recently, he's had a very high, ah what we call an amortized value on is on his contract because Juventus spent so much to buy him. Do you think that Juventus will be able to sell him or do you think it's going to be another loan deal again this summer? It's very difficult. Juventus values him at 50 million. and It's very difficult today that the one club in Europe ah could be offered this this price for Bayern.
Arthur Mello's Transfer Challenges
00:10:11
Speaker
Juventus values ah only the sale, no loan. There is another problem in my opinion. that
00:10:27
Speaker
not simply the the request of Juventus 50 million, more bones to close the 5 million to here. And Artur has to reduce his salary because ah Roma No, for in Italy, because the other clubs in France, in Turkey, ah also Everton and Newcastle in Premier League, ah surely in Italy, nobody could be accepted to pay the deserves.
Fabio Meretti's Loan Possibilities
00:11:01
Speaker
Maybe in Premier League, but Everton and Newcastle are only interested in this moment and on office. It's very difficult for me. For this, ah I think, the the name of Artur,
00:11:15
Speaker
ah could be included in some swap with other clubs. For example, Leferti. A bunch ye yeah for sure and ah couple of Juventus' Italian players starting off Fabio Meretti. Is there a chance that Meretti could leave or maybe be inserted into a like arthur into a swap deal to sign another player? Miretti in this moment is a bit on standby because there is the the chance ah that he could live ah on low Juventus but we will then have to see what the Juventus mid-file ah will be like. I know that there are many clubs in Italy that want Miretti but the
00:12:05
Speaker
club I had, the February club in this moment are Genoa. Genoa are pushing hard in the last weeks ah and are very, very interested. We know that Juventus in Genoa are always good business. ah Inter, for example, Dragos in Cambiazzo. and the I think that Miretti could be and the the name that Juventus could be ah you used to arrive at to other players, ah not for Andrew, not more, ah but Artur Gudmuson. Gudmuson is appreciated to total, I mean, to Rome and Italy, but ah for my information Juventus have not the the door closed the for for
Manuel Locatelli's Future and Performance Concerns
00:12:55
Speaker
him. and I think that Juventus could be ah used merely to arrive at Gudmuson,
00:13:01
Speaker
especially if if a cop minus doesn't arrive but in this market. But I repeat that the first name, ah in this case, ah always a cop minus. that's That's very interesting about Goodmanson. We'll we'll come back to that afterwards. um Manuel Locatelli. There has been some reports recently that Locatelli could be sacrificed. There's been talk about Roberto Dizerbi, who's now the new manager of Marseille. They worked together at Saswala, that he could be interested again. Is there any truth to the Dizerbi links with Locatelli?
00:13:37
Speaker
Look at these rumors from last week's to be denied ah for me to every parts so that I contacted last days. and I think the same words apply to Locatelli, which are also correct for other players. ah ah ah there and the players so The player remains in Juventus, could be staying at Juventus, but I think that he could be leave for an offer ah really, really important. But in this moment, Juventus have not offered for Locatelli, only interested.
00:14:20
Speaker
and ah And another thing that ah I could have ah for me with yeah with tigo mata with the new coach of Juventus, it will ah be another player. I have this feeling. With Allegri, I i haven't I've never seen the Locatelli of Sassuaro and the Locatelli have lost to the the national team. ah They rose 2024 for a bad season with the league. With another coach, I have the feeling that the Locatelli could be a little more ah back better last year.
00:15:06
Speaker
just just Just one follow-up question on Locatelli about the Euros, Euro 2024. Obviously, that was the big controversy was that Spelletti didn't call up Locatelli. How did Locatelli react to that, ah him not not being called up? Was he very upset? Was he surprised? Was he angry with Spelletti? Do you have any insights?
Pogba's Contract Termination and Young Players' Transfers
00:15:29
Speaker
he's nomination yeah He is not very happy, surely, a little angry, because ah in his opinion he deserved the convocation for for years.
00:15:44
Speaker
But I am agreeing with Spaletti and ah for our scoring in Euros, for one victory against Albania, and she lost ah for Switzerland. It's a nightmare again. It's better for Rocatelli to stay at home. Better, better, absolutely. Yeah. Okay. we We'll see. um Final two two questions on the midfield. Pogba. He has a long ban for Dopin, of course. Will he stay at Juventus or could Juve release him on a on a free transfer? What's going to happen with Pogba's contract at Juve? Pogba, right. ah Yes. Pogba. Oh, Pogba. Pogba. Pogba. Pogba. Okay. and You went to start working in in silence on on him.
00:16:44
Speaker
I know they want to terminate to finish the contract and the um I haven't conquered news now, but I'm sure ah in this sense we'll soon begin to arrive the news ah ah for ah for the end of contract. Yeah, they're working with the lawyers. And very final question in the midfield. um Some of the younger midfielders, Hans-Nicole-Lucy Cavillia, Joseph Nonge, are they these players on the on the market? And Nonce is appreciated the from NHTSA. You went to have just ah a business for NHTSA, I think Echefranturam.
00:17:26
Speaker
I think that they could potentially deal for Jean-Claude de Beau, and I know that the the the sports director of NHTSA has talked about his entourage one or two weeks ago. Also, Monza has asked the information ah for her for the guys, but Joseph, that is ah on the market in this moment, ah would be to join ah at Nitza in Indigan. For Nicolucica Villa, I have ah many appreciates for many clubs in Italy.
00:18:06
Speaker
including Belertia, that the the room was so more torqued about the last days, but for Nicolucian, for colluion for ah Barbieri, for Thomas or Barbieri, that is another Juventus young player on loan of Pisa in last year. ah For both of these players, ah will be the the sell ah is very possible on
Federico Chiesa's Transfer Talks and Future
00:18:30
Speaker
loan. or or for for another condition, but no concrete news for this moment, my friend. Well, let's move on to the attack. The number one player ah that's been mentioned and been discussed at Juva is Federico Chiesa. What's the state of play with Chiesa? I mean, which clubs are interested? How much does how much do Juva want for him?
00:18:57
Speaker
around 25-30 minutes. Keza is on the market because ah the two parties have reached an economic agreement. And the for ah for this discourse, Juventus have opened last days ago to to the chance to to sell the the player on this market. So what does Kieza want? Does he want to stay at Juve? Or does he want a new experience in Premier League? He would the would to stay in Juve. I remember the the interview after the victory in Coppa Italia against Atlanta. And the ah he talked about his statements ah and he
00:19:51
Speaker
ah He wanted the to to stay at Juventus in that press conference two after two two months. I i know that the there aren't offers very, very exciting for him. ah I know that the interests of Bayern München and Bayern München have transferred Olise to Wieselpass and are not interested ah
00:20:27
Speaker
ah again, kia the only club that sir f to kid with you a to sir was Roma, but he's not convinced to do Roma for three years on the salary and the goals, that the Champions League, because Roma don't and don will not do the Champions League this year. His different situation for me iss is complicated yet, but he has one or two weeks ah to to to join um another club. in my But um is it true that Thiago Mota doesn't rate him and Thiago Mota wants him sold and is that why Juventus want to sell?
00:21:19
Speaker
i I go to read the about this story with Tiago Morta, but I have never had confirmation from from you into side. And I know, honestly, I think it's strange, it very strange that a good, a man, a professional man like Thiago Muerta that was a great, greatest player with the Inter, intern with Barcelona in his a football career. Can judge Quiesa, a strong player as Quiesa without having having having seen him in training, in my opinion. For for this, i
00:22:02
Speaker
I'm sure that Yagomata, for the first thing, would be to seek KSA in the training and, after, make ah a decision, if always, ah if ah you wait in this period, the don't ah receive ah the the offer, that the task, 25-30 million. um And what about contract extension talks? Is it completely finished between Kiesa and Juve or is there still a chance that he extends? Could be a little chance, could be. But I e i think that if Kiesa hasn't an agreement to to today as an entertainment with Juventus in my opinion is very difficult to to to stay. Maybe Aston Villa who's been linked because they're playing the Champions League as well, they're a Premier League side, I mean maybe maybe that could be an option.
00:23:07
Speaker
Last year, surely. Last year, I e know that in Miami, I've asked Kiesa and I've talked with this entourage. This year, I don't know if we'll search the the player again. The player is Kiesa. a I have seen that UH7 villa are a very, very business ah relationship. It's very, very good. I think that a good offer for Kiesa.
Arik Milik and Matias Sule's Transfer Potential
00:23:41
Speaker
For sure. um Let's talk about Arik Milik. From what I understand, Juventus plan to sell Milik, right? um How much do they want and is there any interest?
00:23:50
Speaker
I can confirm this. Milik is on the market and his entourage has already been told um from Juventus. They are working to find a right offer for Juventus and for the player. I know that there is some interest for Premier League, for France. ah ah The last clubs that have asked the information to Milik is Bezikta in Turkey, but I don't know if Milik will accept the
00:24:27
Speaker
the destination. For Milik, he would like to stay at U.N. but U.N. does have another place in mind at this moment. Okay, Matias Sule, that's the big one this summer after Kiesa. What are Juventus and Thiago Mota's position on Sule? I mean, we've seen lots of reports saying that Juva will consider selling him if they get an offer around 40 million euros. First of all, is this true? And what is Thiago Mota's opinion on Matias Sule? Does he want to keep him?
00:25:04
Speaker
It's true for the price, Juventus wants 40 million for Matias and in this moment don't consider it ah ah another different offers for him. 40 or ah more for Matias. Otherwise, we do not offer concrete as ah the the situation of today. Matias will stay here. The supporters today have asked to Matias to stay at the event to snow today. It's the first day of the
00:25:47
Speaker
pre-season. Exactly. And many, many supporters continue to ask this thing. for me For me, it would be the the right choice. ah i e I believe in in this talent. I would to to advise ah for my little ah opinion. ah to I wanted to advise Juventus to keep their house and yield it's ah the the future of Juventus.
Dushan Vlahovic and Juventus' Striker Search
00:26:24
Speaker
okay ah for ah For the other question, I think Thiago Mota considered having a good opinion for Sule. There is a last conference last press conference of Mota um ah to the first to to start for Zino Niebolo in last year. Marta spent the good work for Soule, and to be, in my opinion, ah could be the the right wing that you enticed to research now.
00:27:05
Speaker
Let's talk about Dushan Vlawic. Do you think he will stay? Or will he stay as at Juventus and be the number nine? Or is it more a question of if a big offer comes, they will sell him because he's on a huge salary, he costs a lot per year and he hasn't really impressed at Juve and his euros were disastrous. If a big offers arrived, almost everyone players is on the market. evan block which evan duja block I know the the negotiations the negotiations ah for for his renewal have stopped, but it's an normal because Juventus are managing at this moment ah other situations ah yes i can need them other situations with more priority.
00:27:56
Speaker
Do Jean want to stay at Juve? I told him about him in different interviews ah ah done in this year. And Juve, in other words, would like to ah to to lower the salary and it will be it will be the the fact the thing simple. I think that the ah there will be a lot of professionalism on both sides ah to ah to to to find the the right solution for this renewal.
00:28:39
Speaker
um can it yeah let's let's Let's look now ah at who Juventus could sign now. um And the the big one, of course, is Thiun Kupmanis of Atalanta. We know that Kupmanis is Juventus' top target for the for the summer. Can you tell us what is the the the state of play with Kupmanis? First of all, how much do Atalanta want and and how much do Juventus want to pay?
00:29:10
Speaker
but and i
00:29:13
Speaker
Ataranta wants 60 million for him and doesn't ah accept swaps in this moment. ah and this news is ah is very difficult for for you because Juventus want to ah to spend the ah the less um a little less, 40, 45 million, but e my feelings so are very positive ah for
00:29:47
Speaker
for this deal because Juventus have already an agreement with the players ah for five years of contract for 4.5 million at year and i um I know that to there there will be the there will not be sorry the the simple negotiation but ah you went to san attaanta I've been talking ah for now to find the the right solutions and for me, in my opinion, they will find ah an agreement ah at the end of this story.
00:30:28
Speaker
yeah Okay, so if Atalanta wants 60, Juventus are looking at the moment at 45, they want to pay. Do you think that maybe they will meet in the middle, maybe like 52, 53, maybe? would how mean How high would Juventus go for Koop miners? Is there a number that they say, right, we won't go above this number? What do what do you think? but I think that Juventus will find the the right solution, as I said before, because Juventus in this moment ah are thinking the cell of different players. ah
00:31:11
Speaker
ah True players in this moment are very close to to joining ah in other teams. Alistair Doussaint and Mattia Compagnon are the true youngest of of next gen. Last year, the true players are... um I've played with Leko and Ferral Pissalo in Italian Srebii, and there are many other players ah that could favorite this deal for Uetus. I could think, ah for example, ah the the cell of Dinausen or the the cell of the Western mechanic. Juventus are trying to to to find this solution ah and
00:31:58
Speaker
um for to convince Atalanta with a good offer. Maybe, in my opinion, maybe, ah the the two clubs that are talking and are talking, we're talking, ah sorry, and about this situation could be to decide the on loan on the deal of only cash in 60 million.
Juventus Transfer Targets: Center-back and Right-winger Considerations
00:32:25
Speaker
Yeah. Just a final question on Koopa Miners. Is there any risk of a Premier League or forum clubs bidding for Koopa Miners and and maybe taking him away from Juventus? Or do you think that Koopa Miners has said, right, I only want Juventus and that's it?
00:32:45
Speaker
Juventus in this moment are strong to the agreement that they have ah with the player. But the the situation Carafio are learning from Tuna, to me, to our everybody that yeah is a always ah ah complicated to to compete with the clubs of prime. Because, ah for example, Liverpool could decide to to spend 60 million or 70 million for for him for example Liverpool. But i I don't know in in this moment ah if there are one or two clubs in the Premier that would join in a concrete way.
00:33:45
Speaker
for For this ah you event to today, is are the clubs more strong to convince that the players? okay and You mentioned their kind of fury so let's move on to center back position and who you've enters We know that Tiago Motta wants to sign a center back with and you've entered will sign a center back this this summer And we know that first of all Ricardo kind of fury was the first target that you've enters Had had been you know working on that deal for for meant for many weeks or months before euro 2024 now
00:34:27
Speaker
I understand, you can correct me if I'm wrong, but I understand through people I've spoken to that Juventus kind of had an agreement with Calipheoria already before the Euros and that before the Euros, Bologna valued Calipheoria round about 25, 27 million euros. But then during the Euros, Calipheoria had an amazing ah ah group stage with Italy and his value went very high and of course then Premier League clubs like Arsenal came interested and Bologna asking price went up to very high, 50 million or or something. is Is that how you understand what happened? and and but the question And also the question I have for you is why did Juventus decide to pull out of this deal? Why did they not agree, right, we will increase our offer or we will still
00:35:23
Speaker
try to sign this play? What made Juventus decide, right, we're going to stop now? Is it they couldn't afford Calipheori or they needed to use this money for maybe Koop miners? like Why did Juventus stop with Calipheori? True about the agreement. ah Another truth, ah um this is ah this issue the situation about Bremmer last month. ago we thought about the the the possible self premmer but brammer to will stay at Juventus in this moment.
00:36:03
Speaker
ah the The real truth ah ah and is that Juventus never made an offer to Bologna for Cala Fiore, never. Even though some newspapers in Italy said last May that there was an agreement between the two clubs, fake news, Juventus never made an offer, I repeat, ah ah never made an offer to Bologna for Cala Fiore. ah Juventus would have liked to make an offer to Calafiori for 20-25 million, so not 50. This situation was created ah because Bologna was a little annoyed by the devaluation of 20-25 million. Juventus would be ah
00:36:58
Speaker
ah would be to have an insert the ah for his web, to create this web, for example, Nicolas Iqavilla, for example, Barbieri, for example, another player, ah for for rather the what sorry s but another to add 20-25 million and buy the players, ah and for Boronia, ah the the situation ah ah was ah completely negative but and they looked elsewhere and played on the Premier League table.
00:37:38
Speaker
ah Chelsea Arsenal to join Arsenal for 50 million euros if ah if ah if the this is the the the right price and two to 50 million was ah impossible to UVA and to send and another club in Italy to to to buy Calafioi. In this moment I know that the the number one substitute is Jean-Claire Todibot
00:38:09
Speaker
from Nitza, but Juventus are following Kiebier of of Bournemouth, and I know that the the clubs ah the club ah appreciated ah this ah this defense, but in this moment, ah No decision has yet to be made ah ah because there are other priorities in this world. Right, um let's ah talk about right-wingers. Jaden Sancho and Mason Greenwood have been the two main names. What's the situation with Sancho and Greenwood? um Could you let us know? what is Is there any truth to Mason Greenwood at all?
00:39:00
Speaker
Only interest. Only interest, my friend. and Never made too often, never do too often of Manchester United. ah for met from With Manchester, you went to Saar talking ah about Sancho. This is the real news. ah ah is ah In this moment, it's a little complicated, for not more for the request of Manchester. ah Manchester, I know that want to see the dos siezanchos within the 50 or the 16th of July for the preseason, okay? And for his urns, his urns corresponding to ah two thousand and
00:39:53
Speaker
I don't know how to say it in English. is good I don't know how to say it. 250,000. 250,000, sorry. 12 weeks. okay and Around the one million in one month. 12 millions. It's too expensive for for every squad, every club in Italy. You went to Spulbi to convince Sancho for two years.
00:40:34
Speaker
five, maxing five million so to two years, ah the same answer of Douglas Lewis, for example, and in my opinion, ah in this moment is a little complicated. ah Also, Kiesa doesn't live Juventus in this moment. Juventus, I know that are following other right-wing, for example, ah Zegrava, For example, Raquel from Artifico Madrid, but Roma is ahead in this moment. And there is ah the Plan B. If we will not arrive at Sancho or another right wing, I think we have to keep Mathias Soule.
00:41:18
Speaker
Well, I was just going to ask you about, a like I mean, we've heard of Alexei Salimekas as well. um and And do you think that Juve will sign a right winger even if Sula stays? and No contacts for Salimekas in this moment to with Milan and with his agents. But for the price, ah Milan asked around 10 million. nine million maximum. I think that could be a good option for next month, for for August, if Juventus will need the a right wing. But in this moment, no, no, first for him.
00:42:10
Speaker
Okay and what will will do you think Juventus will try to sign a right winger even if Sula stays or do you think that it depends on Kiesa or Sula leaving? I think that depends about Kiesa, about the Kiesa's future. Sula could be a right option not only for for right wings ah for rightw-wing, ah sorry, but he could play in another position. but For example, ah I will see very well Sule behind the the the striker, Ester Cortista, if Marta would want want to ah to play with 4-2-3-1 on the field.
00:43:00
Speaker
Well, let's move up the pitch to the striker and Mois Ken is now joined Fiorentina. Milik, as you' we've discussed, he's for sale. So Juve need another striker. um There's a couple of names being linked and you can let me know if there's anything to them. i mean Alvaro Morata, we know he's been close to Milan. Is there is there a possible return to Juve on the cards? No, I don't think Morata is a good idea in this moment. ah Last year, the scenario about Morata was ah to ah to a possible live of Keza.
00:43:39
Speaker
and the scenario was out KSI in Moiata and Luciano this isn't the same scenario and Moiata is very close to to join me and I can confirm ah ah this news but the truth is that the I haven't ah concrete news on the striker in this moment. ah I would wait ah a few more weeks. ah ah Maybe Juventus could be created the the right ah the right chance with a striker that nobody took this moment today.
00:44:17
Speaker
Well, Goodmanson, you mentioned earlier, can we can we talk a little bit about him? do you what do you What do you think is going to happen there? Because there's lots of teams wanting him. I think as April or May, i I think the same Juventus could be ah make a good offer for Gudmundsson. But Gudmundsson, Juventus have told him about Genoa, about his agents. Gudmundsson is ah represented by two brothers, Giuffrida, in Italy. Okay, he has agents.
00:44:53
Speaker
But and the player of could be out ah of general for the right price, 30 million, 35 million, ah could be the playing bee. Only if a cop minus ah will not arrive because the the right ah choice choice in this moment is a town cop minus for the role. and So they see they see Goodmanson as ah the number 10 or the the the tracortista central tracortista rather than as a as a an attacker or as a as a winger. ah What about Kalimuendo of REN? Is there any any anything in in in the the reports of Lincoln Moza to Kalimuendo because they work together at I think at PSG if I if I if I'm not mistaken. Is there any any reports there?
00:45:51
Speaker
I haven't any concrete news about the this player. I e i could add Mateira of Crystal Palace, for example. I know that Mateira was very appreciated ah by Cristiano Juntoly Napoli in two or three years ago. and the little the the german the French journalist Lekip talked about the the possible ah substitute of Ozymand, for example. i the The name is the same, Matieta, but the ah these players have, I think about Calumendo, have the high price in this moment. for for this event to serve have ah other prior priority, for the mid-file, for the comminers, for the right wing, for them for this the in Vienna.
Full-back Evolution and Rabiot's Uncertain Future
00:46:50
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a fallback terrino Fullback fullbacker and the another player, but the the strikers for me will talk to concretinues, have concretinues in ah in ah the month of August. Okay, and talking about the Tetsini, the full backs, Juventus are moving to a back four under under Tiago Motta and that the full back positions have been a weakness for many years at Juve. So far Juve haven't been linked to many full backs, the main one was Giovanni Di Lorenzo
00:47:29
Speaker
um So we'll start with him. is Is the interest in Di Lorenzo finished now after his... ah I mean, he was a disaster at Euro 2024. Is that over now, Di Lorenzo? Diorezzo was staying in Napoli and the today there was a the the communication official of Napoli about his socials that announced him and for Diorezzo the price ah was 30 billion, very complicated in my opinion.
00:48:04
Speaker
ah Yes, i I heard the name of Giancotto, the name of Thiago Santos, rather many players, but and the the real news ah the real ah news of these days ah is that Thiago Monta will evolute Nicalo Sabora. Nicolas Osamona for 2-0, 2-0 the guy ah was the them the full back at Juventus next-gen last year and he can play for full back ah in 3-5-2 and could be the defence in the same model.
00:48:46
Speaker
But I think that Thiago Marta could be... Thiago Marta ...transformate Nicola Savoyla in the the new Ricardo Caffeoi. ah who be the Well, we hope, but we hope, we hope that happens. We really hope that happens. um Okay, that's very interesting, very interesting. um Just ah finally, before we we're nearly finished now, thank you so much again, Mirko, for today. um Adrian Rabio, his contract has expired, so he's now not a Juventus player anymore.
00:49:27
Speaker
But Rabio has said that he's not ruling out staying at UVA and that he will decide after Euro 2024. He said that last week. Now, of course, France are out of Euro 2024. They lost to to Spain in the semi-final with Rabio being embarrassed a little bit for that that amazing goal from the 16-year-old Lamini Amal. um Is there any chance that Rabio could still sign a new contract at Uve and stay again? Or do you think that it's now finished for Rabio at Uve? but and I wrote to today about the the situation of Rabio. I know that he will speak with Juventus in the next hours and he wants to continue negotiations for for the renewal. But now Rabio is a free agent.
00:50:22
Speaker
he's not Juventus's player and Juventus is no longer considering him a priority. For me, e the the the end of the story, he will choose another club, ah for ah for my opinion, because Juventus sent the best offer at two m seven to.5 million served for three years. until 2026 with the option for 2027 is the best option ah ah with thereokrehita with the The best option in ah that event could be guaranteed to have you in this moment. But the situation is to decide at the end of the year
00:51:20
Speaker
but slowly the the situation in the two players, Douglas Lewis and Kefrin Tuham, maybe Ryb Tionkov- or another mid-file, ah there are Miretti, Fagioli, Locatelli and other players, because it's very complicated ah that Rabio could be staying in u and next ah sorry and the This morning I've verified that the situation about Juventus and Rabio and I e ah can
00:52:04
Speaker
tell from you, from the friend of Parketast, because ah if Rabio will accept the the the the offer of Juventus, he will communicate to Juventus to stay in Turin also next year. um I'm not sure that the offer will be the same. Seven dot million for two years with an option of the of the tear the of the the third. and For me, i e I'm sure that the offer ah will be low, very low about ah today.
00:52:44
Speaker
okay we's Yeah, very interesting. where Where can everybody read that? Let's listen to that on tutoyuve.com, yeah? Yes, yes. Okay, fantastic. And my final question, and then Nima will just give one final question himself. um last Last question? Yeah, last question from me, then Nima has one last question as well. So so um some very unlikely names here. I'll run through them. You tell me if there's anything in them. Xavi Simons, Kvychka Klaratskalia, I know the answer to that one, and Thomas Suslov. Is there anything in in these three players?
00:53:21
Speaker
ah no Only football manager, my friend. For Shadi Stevens, only football manager. For Vicha Carascalia, FC 24, 100 players. And Thomas Suzlov could be, ah for for the price, for the low price, ah could be appreciated to the club about the norm. No, I know that in other clubs, for example, at Aranta, they've asked aba information for Suslov. We're interested, the I believe, Lazio, but you're interested in this moment. Right, ah so I just got one question about the NextGen team. ah It's produced quite a few exciting players in the last few years, but I wanted to ask you which fan which players that are not famous yet,
00:54:15
Speaker
should players look out for ah so should fans look out for? sorry Who will be the next Kenangildis?
Juventus NextGen Prospects and Humorous Conclusion
00:54:24
Speaker
For now, it's the interesting as question. ah For me, Luis Aza. Luis Aza I've played with Juventus last year. He's one of the ah of the most bravest talent ah in in Italy under 19 that won the Euro trophy against Portugal last year.
00:54:52
Speaker
But um I don't know if ah if Aza will to stay with us. I don't know because there there are the situations complicated with this renewal and Aza have appreciated about many, many clubs in Serie A and Serie B, but I want to reply Vasily Azic. Vasily Azic is the new Juventus Transferer. He's arrived to the FKA boot club. And I think that Azic, that he comes in next gen to next to next month ah ah to arrive ah soon ah in first team and I believe in his talent.
00:55:42
Speaker
i I reply you with Vasiliazic and Visazic. That's great. Thank you so much, Grande Mirkone, for joining us. Really, really appreciate that. That was really brilliant. um We will tag you, of course, on social media, but if you want to follow Mirko on Twitter, it's at underscore Moric92 on Twitter, and Moric92 on Instagram. You can follow all his work on Tutoyuva. and listen to Morario Bianco Nera. But before we let you go, Mirko, is there any news coming up, any story you want to share that you can recommend? Then please do so and we'll, for our listeners.
00:56:19
Speaker
oh Absolutely, absolutely, my friend. I thank you for your invitation ah for ah to to talk with the with you in in this hour. It's very hard question, it's very complicated to speak me in in English, but I hope that and my English is ah a little good for for this interview. ah oh Fantastic, it's been fantastic. You did an amazing job, Mirka, and I think definitely you should, you you you're you're very well known with the Italian audience and you're you're growing very much with the English audience. I think that you're ready to do more Italian English. I learned the the English ah for three reasons, but the the main reason is ah
00:57:10
Speaker
ah to speak better with girls. I know in English is the the language universal. okay i I speak well ah French, or Spanish, but with English I want to conquer the world of girls. You're just like you're just like romeo Romeo. Romeo says the same thing. I want to learn English so I can speak to girls. yeah that's stuff Romeo's left. Romeo's left after which beers? Two, three, four. yeah Amazing, amazing. Thank you so much, Mirko, once again. We'll be tagging him in in in in our socials and and and everywhere. ah Thank you everyone for listening. We'll be back ah tomorrow ah where I did an interview, a deep profile, deep dive interview with an Iranian journalist on Mehti Tarami and what kind of player he is and his background. Make sure to check that out. That'll be out tomorrow.
00:58:08
Speaker
but and so until And also a profile on Turan. We've done a profile on Turan. We published this before we'll publish this before the interview with Mirko. It should be out with Jonathan Johnson, a Deep Dive. But thank you so much again Mirko. Thank you everyone else for listening. We'll be back next time. Until next time, take care of yourselves and do each other. Ciao ciao.