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We end the year off discussing John Cena's final wrestling match in WWE, we breakdown the epic conclusion of IT Welcome to Derry season 1 (HBO), we talk Pluribus (Apple TV), we breakdown the premiere of Fallout season 2 (Amazon Prime), Ray reviews the new film Jay Kelly (Netflix) and the remake of The Running Man, we review the new film Avatar Fire and Ash, 2025: A Year in Review and finally we talk about our Mount Rushmore Christmas Movies, TV specials as traditions...Happy Holidays, see you next year, ya filthy animals!


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Introductions and Anecdotes

00:00:31
Speaker
Keepers, where we talk about it all, from superheroes to wrestlers, we stand tall, and Kevin, the dynamic duo inside, keepers.
00:01:25
Speaker
Hey, what's happening? Not much, man, not much. It's kind of a shitty day out, so I haven't even gotten out of the bathrobe yet. Nope.
00:01:35
Speaker
It's definitely day to lay down and chill and watch some movies or something. it is. where We are learned less than a week away from Christmas, so there's a lot of holiday cheer in the air, as you can tell.
00:01:46
Speaker
yeah
00:01:50
Speaker
Yeah. So let's start let's start the show off with a ah recap of what we watched this week. Starting off with the farewell of Juan Cena, as he is called down south of the border.

John Cena's Wrestling Legacy

00:02:07
Speaker
Saturday night's saturday nights main event last Saturday.
00:02:11
Speaker
John Cena ended the show with his final match against Gunther. um And the internet went crazy and booed the hell out of Triple H because of the finish because John Cena's never give up. a Motto for the last 20 years pretty much went south and he gave up by tapping out to Gunther. It's fine. They blame Triple H, but I mean, it was 99%. Yeah, it was definitely his idea. yeah From the get-go, that's exactly the storytelling you wanted to tell. I could tell the minute I saw it. I liked it. um yeah Overall, his run... Overall, his run this year has been very much panned.
00:02:47
Speaker
i've watched where fixed very Very mixed. I've watched almost every match he's had. um And I think it was a great great way of telling a story for somebody who is, let's be honest, up until this year, he's part-time. He's been part-time since, like, what, 2017 when he actually went into acting full-time?
00:03:05
Speaker
Maybe two maybe much not more than 20 matches here and there. He might have came back, yeah. yeah I know one year and he had one match at WrestleMania and that was it. So he's been, I mean, Peacemaker, of course. We know that in the movies and everything else. but Did he ever do the thing where he just did house shows for like a while?
00:03:21
Speaker
No. Some wrestlers would do that just to get, okay, I couldn't remember did or not. This run, he mentioned in one of the interviews, I remember where it was, but there are no real no more house shows like they were back in the day. um where he wanted That's what he wanted to do during this run. He wanted to have like a hundred and something days um to just perform and tour himself around. um But they they're just the house shows, like what we remember back in the day, are just not not like they were back then. right um So they gave him the television offer and then that's what he did.
00:03:54
Speaker
Never been done for any other superstar in the past. um very very i mean Usually when somebody retires, it's either a retirement match that sets up that the loser loses, they're going to retire. It happens all the time.
00:04:06
Speaker
um Or they just retired without a whimper. Right, or retired without a whimper like Stone Cold Steve Austin. Nobody knew that was at his actual retirement match until like five years after that. um That was just an underground thing that Vince, Rock, and him knew. But Austin was done he because he stayed on TV for another two or three years after that, to being the authority figure. but um This is the first time somebody of his caliber...
00:04:30
Speaker
Actually had an entire year planned out to his a pinpoint of exactly when his last match is going to be. Never had been done before. Actually, i I think it worked. And in all this time this year, you had different versions of this character that he's created, which is basically himself amped up to 11 from the heel turn in the beginning, which has been panned from the beginning. I loved it. I wanted to see it. A lot of people wanted to see it from the last 20 years of watching him. Just seeing that dynamic again, because when he came when he came in, he was a heel. um Just to see him in that atmosphere now um with the wrestlers that are currently on the roster, it was great. um The very end of the match, John Cena was ah ceremoniously given the world title and the WWE title by Punk and Cody Rhodes. um Of course, he did not want them. He almost handed them back to him. um The one thing I forgot to put in the notes, but did you see the segment before this?
00:05:31
Speaker
Because the one wrestler that we wanted to fight John Cena during this run. Yeah, Joe Hendry. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, Joe Hendry. He comes out with, there was no announcement of him being there, but he fought The Miz.
00:05:42
Speaker
I only saw it by accident because um I skipped to the Cena match, but missed the intros, which obviously i wanted to see. yeah I went back, and then I went back too far, and I was like, holy shit, Hendry. So I went all the way back to the beginning of that segment. yeah Yep, yep. But everybody's been talking about John Cena and the influence that he's had on them. All the AEW guys are doing it too, MJF. Some of the other ones have been posting too, and giving their congratulations to a career, well-done career, and... um He's not going anywhere. He's signed five-year Legends deal.
00:06:12
Speaker
um He's going to be in the company for a little while, kind of an ambassador ambassador role, talking about the company being there. and He said he's never going to wear the jorts again. When you see him on WWE television, he's going wearing a tux of for every so foreseeable future appearance going forward. It'll be interesting to see that. um Hall of Fame talk.
00:06:32
Speaker
Do we think he's going to be in next year's Hall of Fame in the 2026 WrestleMania season? Four months away. I feel like they should wait a year. Um, give it, I think they should announce a year in advance.
00:06:46
Speaker
Fuck it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. In advance. Announce it a year in advance. They should do that with a headliner for, they should know the headliner for every year, like lined up a year in advance. I think, um, But that'd be cool they just get a year.
00:06:58
Speaker
right The only one announced so far is Stephanie McMahon. She announced back. 27 26? For next year, yeah. For 26. 26, okay. I think they should do it in 27. Yeah, because you think about it. John Cena announced the Rock match a year before WrestleMania. He announced his tour a year and a half before his retirement. He announced that. Yeah, it would make perfect sense. You're right. Maybe announce it this WrestleMania or something or after that. Yeah, John Cena's career is officially done.
00:07:30
Speaker
um And we'll be seeing him somewhere in the DCU again, stuck stuck on a planet. Who knows when? Hopefully sooner rather than later. But um yeah, career well done from John Cena.
00:07:43
Speaker
Kind of the end of an era for us because we were i mean we were young when he debuted right out of high school, right right into college for you. Um, and he's been around for 20 years of us growing up and becoming adults. So this is kind of the end of our childhood after we grew up and seeing somebody our age, kind of close to our age within 10 years or so, um, was he 48? So yeah, within six years, um, coming into a retirement of, uh, epic proportions. You don't see somebody with his, and with his caliber, um, lasting 20 years in wrestling. We talked about it off plot, I think, but Austin, What did he have a run for? Eight years in the main card as as the big, huge baby face.
00:08:26
Speaker
um Hulk had a run in the WWF for 10 years, and then he jumped shift to WCW. Had a little bit of a run there before they went under, but John Cena's lasted through through time 20 whole years straight forward in the same company. There was no kind no competition move to, but... um You're definitely the company man through and through with Vince and with the new TKO and everybody. so Yeah.
00:08:52
Speaker
Congratulations, John Cena. Wes Newberry's own, not too far away from us.

'Welcome to Derry' Series Discussion

00:08:58
Speaker
um Yeah, great career. um And a finale. A great, great finale. And I told you off-pod, I think I may have mentioned it on here. This show has the potential to being the best series ever ah good on HBO.
00:09:13
Speaker
um We are one season out of three. And by far, this is my favorite season I've ever seen on HBO. And I love The Sopranos. I like Game of Thrones. Kind of off by the last season like everybody else. I love House of Dragon, where it is right now in that series. The Last of Us first season is right up there too. But the emotional story that this this series, It Welcome to Derry, told from episode 1 to episode 8 was fantastic. It made the movies look smaller.
00:09:43
Speaker
Which, I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing, but Machete just came in with knives blazing, guns swinging. This was an amazing show. We didn't even get Pennywise until, what, episode 6? But it didn't matter. it's just the story this told and and the overall horror arc of terrorizing these children in the city in the town of Derry, Maine was outstanding.
00:10:06
Speaker
um This episode started off with Pennywise going into a high school... And the principal coming out and he's doing a ventriloquist act with the principal, putting his hand through his back into his head making him talk to an audience full of children who Pennywise goes forth and steals and makes them float in the air following a caravan of the wagon, the Pennywise wagon, with him playing this tuba in the front seat. It was one of the best scenes I've ever seen on television. And the sound and the music that came out of it was astounding. um
00:10:41
Speaker
Pennywise is terrorizing this group of kids, this losers. I always want to call them the losers club just because of the overall arcing movie um and book of the past. But it's different. It's it's a different set of kids. But Pennywise is terrorizing them like he always does, terrorizing the children are trying to go against him. um And he goes up to this march Margie, Maggie, Margie, don't know her name. But you find out that she is the mother of Richie.
00:11:09
Speaker
Richie Tozer from the original It Losers Club, who was played by Finn Wolfhard in the movie. um And he actually whips out a poster showing him. Because Pennywise, revelation, huge revelation, can warp time.
00:11:26
Speaker
What are your feelings about that? In other words, time is not linear to him. He can... it almost The way he made it sound like his birth was his death when he died in 2017. That was his birth, and he's going back and passed every 27 years instead of going forward, which makes sense why Machete's doing the show going back into the past because Pennywise is taking revenge for the Losers Club, and that's why he singled out Marge here. showing her the poster of her potential son who she's going to have 27 years later who's going to end up killing Pennywise. And he's he's terrorizing her, and that's a big, huge revelation. What's your thought of the time travel time fuckery that's added into this?
00:12:06
Speaker
Genius. ah Genius, yeah. I thought... I was kind of wondering why they were going back. I thought it would be just to ease us back as we kept going back in time. Because, like, going from 2017 or whatever to, like, 1908 or whatever the first season's going to be would be like... But, like, now we get to see the progression of of the town back through time as opposed to building up. I just assumed that was the only reason um yeah for it, which I thought was a good reason.
00:12:33
Speaker
um Because then you could just keep removing things from the town or whatever as you go back. It just seems like would be easier to do. Yeah. And a very interesting way to tell the story, but... Yeah.
00:12:44
Speaker
Yeah, that was crazy when he pulled out the poster. And now, going in the past, there's a reason for him to go into the past. When he's in 1935 next season...
00:12:55
Speaker
He's going to be terrorizing either the people who are young or who are old in this season that we would just watched when they were younger. He's going to hunt them down, terrorize them like a young Hanlon or Hanlon's not there. Who would be, who would be there? Um, the butcher, um, the Ingrid would be there.
00:13:15
Speaker
Um, Some of the parents of the kids would be still living in Derry at the time. So yeah maybe terrorizing them or stopping them from having children in the future that would, who would have, and who would potentially destroy him later on the way time fuckery works in this, but a very original way of doing it. The other thing that happened in this episode, James Ramir, the general um goes face to face with the frozen Pennywise who has been frozen by Rick Halloran, Dick Halloran. Who's amazing in this. um the The way he set up in this last episode, um he freezes Pennywise in the middle of the frozen river. um And all of a sudden he loses the trance and Pennywise comes to life right in front of the general and bites his face off. Yep.
00:13:58
Speaker
Incredible. Incredible scene. um And that leads up to the the losers club trying to get this artifact, this pillar into a point to make the gate back on dairy. So we can't escape the city again to escape the town. Yeah.
00:14:14
Speaker
And Dick Halloran's trying his best to use his shine abilities. um And he sees a ghost of the Indian lady. um Kind of as the four losers club members are trying to put this pillar in place. um He sees the Indian club lady and behind her is a young Ricky, Richie from the last episode who passed in the fire.
00:14:38
Speaker
He comes in, middle fingers swinging to Pennywise as he's running by him, as you see in the middle picture on YouTube. And he jumps in with the with the Losers Club and jumps and helps them push this pillar into place to lock Pennywise into the city and the town of Derry as Pennywise is behind them in a bird...
00:14:58
Speaker
Um, bird form that I know is in the books. Um, they actually, I think it was in, it may have been the, it, the, it, uh, series, the, it, the current, the book itself, but they didn't put it in there. Machete put it in this instead. Um, but he's terrorizing them. And at the end with the help of the ghost of Richie, um, they confide him back into the town of dairy and he goes into slumber for another 27 years to destroy him. Um, this was an amazing scene, amazing storytelling,
00:15:27
Speaker
Having Richie show up, it was a gasp moment for a lot of people, including myself, when you saw him show up in Pennywise's eyes. like He actually saw the ghost of Richie staring at him as he's running by. And fucking incredible. Pennywise versus Dick Halloran was my favorite one of my favorite parts of this whole entire, the mental the mental block between the two of them. um To the point in this episode where Dick goes inside of Pennywise's mind and brings him back into the carnival of 1908. And he's getting he thinks he's getting harassed by all the carnival workers for decades. for bob gray disappearing um but then he figures out it's dick halloran um dick halloran shows up to the funeral of richie um and as you can see richie is consoling his friend and his parents um in the funeral there and also the uh the airplane that he threw from the tower margie finds that in the tree and it did make it to dairy like he had hoped it would um
00:16:25
Speaker
My favorite line in this, a lot of a lot of people's favorite line, Dick Halloran's talking about a new job he's got in a hotel, and he's like, how much trouble can a hotel be? Well, yes if you know The Shining, that's where the trouble lies. so um A lot of people are saying, was this a back door is this whole show a backdoor to a Shining reboot? A Shining sequel, a Shining prequel with Dick Halloran showing up to the hotel with all the ghostly stuff. This amazing.
00:16:58
Speaker
I don't know his name off the top of my head. I hope we see him in more stuff. I would love to see him as Dick Halloran in a Shining prequel with all the ghostly goings on of the Overlook Hotel. It would be amazing.
00:17:10
Speaker
We'll have to wait and see if that comes to fruition. but um And the after credits epilogue of this episode, we see Ingrid, who was put in the trance by Pennywise in the episode prior, um is in a mental institution.
00:17:25
Speaker
And it fast forward to, I believe, 1986. And you see Beverly from the Losers Club and her mother's hanging and she's crying and she's trying to console her father and her father pushes her away because, you know, from the Losers Club, her father is a a so a molester of asshole.
00:17:43
Speaker
um And Ingrid's standing over her telling her that nobody really dies in Derry and has the evil, evil clown smile as the season ends. And dairy and ah Beverly's looking on to her. great fucking episode, great fucking moment. The lady who plays Ingrid, Joan Gregson, actually died back in, I believe, June.
00:18:02
Speaker
ah This is her last role. She filmed it last year an And yeah, she was, of course, in the movie, one of the most memorable moments from the second It movie, where she's the old lady in the Marsh house, and she just goes crazy and starts doing the spider walk and goes naked in the kitchen everything crazy. But she was 91 years old, so rest in peace to her. Final role, very impactful for the series.
00:18:24
Speaker
um And the final card for the series, final card for the episode... the app The series was called, the season was called Welcome to Dairy Chapter 1. So confirmation, of course, that we're gonna be it's been everybody's known, but we're going to be getting more chapters of this. So great.
00:18:39
Speaker
Incredible. um And there's been a lot of teases. and Andy Machete's been talking a lot about. How this is going forward. And he did confirm that 1935 is, ah is, uh, been known for a while.
00:18:52
Speaker
Um, 27 years, of course, before season one, and then they're going to tackle the, bra the, bra the Bradley gang, which is in the book, um, going be, uh, taking place during the depression, the great depression in dairy. um gonna see some new characters some some new characters some characters from the season as well but younger versions of them so yeah can't wait for that um and uh the knee bolt house which is where it pennywise hides in the movie we're gonna find out more about that that came out and i think in a podcast um and Andy Machete i know I saw your Twitter feelings about this too also talked about not popularity
00:19:28
Speaker
yeah now that the popularity of the show he wants to go back to the IT and in IT chapter 2 and do a super cut a 6 or 7 hour super cut of those two movies with some deleted scenes some other stuff that he had to cut out of the original picture and do a director's a huge cut of that um a movie I don't want to see However, if he turns it into a series, I would watch that.
00:19:52
Speaker
If he could somehow do it in an episodic way, I would definitely watch that. i know what Didn't um Tarantino do that with Once Upon a Time in hall Hollywood? On Netflix, I believe.
00:20:03
Speaker
I thought he did or he was going to. No, it's it's a movie. It's just a movie. Okay. No, no opinion no, no. The Once Upon a Time in Hollywood was re-released, the one with Brad Pitt and Leo. I believe it was released on Netflix in a similar way where they took the movie. Yeah, and he and he did a director's cut of it and made it longer into its episodic way. I've never heard of that.
00:20:25
Speaker
Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's on Netflix. That is my favorite Tarantino movie. Yeah, mine too. One of mine, yeah. um But yeah, it's still a big dream of his to do that with It. So that'd be interesting. But yeah, it's a long fucking way of doing it. That'd be the longest movie ever. um Also...
00:20:40
Speaker
On pre-order, limited edition steelbooks. So that HBO is releasing the series. Coming out with the postcards of the really really cool posters that came out before the series. um Really cool looking box set for that. Overall, great series. My favorite HBO show so far. um Could be my favorite series of of all time. I think Sopranos overall may be my favorite series. But the season itself by itself, by far is my favorite. The storytelling that it told was great. Um, and I cannot wait for the second season and the third season to see how this concludes and the overall story arc of how, um, maybe we'll find out where the alien came from and where that whole entity part of it. I was going to say, you know what, how's this for an idea? Um, do what you said, um, which is do the two movies combined as a TV show
00:21:31
Speaker
Film extra stuff with it, bridge the gaps between the shows, and release that in season four. That'd be cool. That would be very cool. um yeah i That just randomly came when we were talking about that. but Because they did talk about Muschietti has like three seasons planned, but HBO's like, there could be a fourth.
00:21:48
Speaker
That'd be interesting. Muschietti's planned for

Current TV Shows and Movie Reviews

00:21:50
Speaker
a fourth. But if they weren't a fourth, that'd be an interesting way to wrap everything together. don't know. We'll talk about in news, we'll talk about how successful the show is for HBO so I can see them wanting to milk it like Game of Thrones. I think it's number three behind Game of Thrones and The Last of Us. We'll talk about it in news. Pluribus, episode eight. We are on the penul penultimate episode today, but Kevin's caught up.
00:22:14
Speaker
There's something that we need to talk about. So if you have not seen this show, go forward. Have you been holding on for the screenshot for three weeks? I've been holding on for a few screenshots. Scroll about a minute. Give us time to talk about this. If you've seen Pluribus, if you don't give a shit, listen because it's awesome.
00:22:30
Speaker
Second or third episode, the mayor shows up. and If you don't know the show of Pluribus... The world is taken over by a hive mind, and every single human on Earth, except for 11 people, are part of this hive mind of one one working brain. um And they don't and they are kind of slaves to all the people on Earth who have not turned, who is including the main character, Carol, who's played by Ray Sehorne, who is in um Better Call Saul. um One of the people that's in the town of Albuquerque is the mayor, the real mayor of Albuquerque now. um And he plays himself and he's doing work for Carol after she puts a bomb in the, I think the second episode when she bombs the out bombs the house. um I believe I have a picture of that here.
00:23:15
Speaker
um That's him. That's him there. Vince Gilligan on why they cast John Cena in I believe the fourth episode. And this is the episode I was hinting to you about being awesome. John Cena shows up in Las Vegas on the television because all of the people in the hive mind have gone away from Carol because Carol tried to kill the one lady who's kind of been the ambassador to everybody else on earth or tried to, tried to kill her, tried to, tried to warp her brain.
00:23:41
Speaker
Um, and they went, all of the people in Albuquerque just left overnight one over day, one day left her all alone. And she kind of became crazy because of it and lonely. Um, well, she went to Las Vegas to meet one of the other 11 people that are on this earth that haven't been taken over. And he's taken over a whole entire hotel in Las Vegas.
00:24:02
Speaker
and she wants to talk to the hive mind. So they put somebody on television, ends up being John Cena, the actual John Cena. think he introduces introduces himself like, hi, I'm a TV celebrity or celebrity John Cena.
00:24:17
Speaker
And he said, I think i thought you'd like a familiar face to talk to or something or something to that effect. and And he talks about how everybody is a cannibal in this world eating... um leftovers from humans and milk jugs. It was weird. Weird story. um But John Cena did show up on it, and that's the big thing I want to talk about. The other thing in the social media response to it, um Carol Burnett from the Carol Burnett Show back in the day showed up in in an ad on the Pluribus social media accounts as in, Hi, Carol. Join us, Carol, if you want. and I thought that was very, very funny. It came out around, I think, the same week when the John Cena thing came out. But Pluribus has become the most watched series on Apple TV ever. Surpassing Severance. um
00:25:01
Speaker
It's a great show. They put a billboard billboard on in um in l LA. um Everybody's watching Carol kind of to celebrate that fact. um yeah Very exciting show. One episode left. the The finale is next week. We'll talk about it when we come back. We're off next week because of the holiday. but yeah Great show. This on Apple TV. you Everybody should watch it. a Great sci-fi original series. um Speaking of sci-fi, Fallout Season 2 came out.
00:25:29
Speaker
It's good. ah One episode. Last time and they released the whole series at once, they're doing one episode a week. Final episode, I believe, comes out February 13th or somewhere around there. So every single week is going one episode. um It's good so far. One episode didn't tell too much, but see the the characters where they left off in the first season and what's going on. They're in New Vegas. I know that's a huge part of the games. I don't know much about the games. but um And the Fallout TV show...
00:25:57
Speaker
Yeah, very good. The TV show is going to have an impact on Fallout 5 whenever that comes out. um And it's going to be the existing world in the TV show and the stories and events happening are going to be taking place they're gonna be taking it that into an account in the video games. Oh, nice.
00:26:12
Speaker
Exciting. I like that idea. yeah Yeah, me too. So yeah, great show. That's on Prime right now currently for one episode. Just debuted, so go ahead and watch that. I watched a movie on Netflix called Jay Kelly. This is the Noah Baumbach movie directed hint and directed by him.
00:26:29
Speaker
um Starring George Clooney and Adam Sandler. Everybody's saying Adam Sandler is going to get some supporting acting noms for the Oscars. I think he will. did you I don't think you had a chance to probably watch this. I don't know if you did it or not.
00:26:42
Speaker
No. um no it's it's ah It's a really good movie. um All about Hollywood. um All about um an aging star. He plays kind of a person like himself. George Clooney's in his 60s now. Kind of plays an actor like him. And dealing with putting his whole life into acting and kind of putting his family life and his and his and his regular everyday human life on the back burner to become the biggest actor in the world. And Adam Sandler is his manager who goes through life with him. Um, great story. The very last scene of this is spectacular. Um, one of the greatest lines from this movie is all of my memories are movies. Um,
00:27:22
Speaker
kind of hit home to me because it's kind of like how my mind works too. I'm not an actor, but every movie memory that I have kind of, I do have memories going back to that. i think, Oh yeah, I was with that person. a lot of movies that you and I have seen in the past. Oh yeah I went to the movies with Kevin and saw that. yeah Um, it kind of hit home to me. I love that line, but it's on Netflix. Uh, you want to watch it for free. If you have Netflix, it's on there. Um, it's very good. And it's ah called, uh, Jay Kelly.
00:27:46
Speaker
Um, running man. Do you have a chance to watch the the new running man? No, I'm going to watch it this weekend. Okay, not much to talk about. it isn't It is a totally different story from what we saw with the Arnold one. um But ah the citizens of the world are more like the bounty hunters in this, I will say that. um I think we talked about it on the podcast, so I'll say it now. Derry does play a part in this. The the town of Derry from the Stephen Kings is written by Stephen King.
00:28:12
Speaker
ah Michael Cera, great in this movie. And that's all I'm going to say. Four out of five for me. And when you watch it, maybe we'll talk about it some more if you want to. But yeah, it's really, very good. Coleman Domingo, great in it. um Lee Pace, great in it.
00:28:26
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um Brolin, Josh Brolin, great in it too. And ah chat um Chad Powers himself, Glenn Powell, great as well. So yeah, this just came out on the streaming if anybody wants to watch it. So yeah. um And finally, um Avatar. Avatar.
00:28:42
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Fire and Ash. In other words, of repackaged version of Captain Planet. um This is the third movie of what's supposed to be five. ah First one was all about the Earth and in connecting to the Earth. Second one's all about the way of water.
00:28:57
Speaker
And the third one's all about fire. Fire and Ash. The Ash people from the volcanoes. um Overall, fast pace considering these movies are known to be slow. It was over three hours. But But it's James Cameron. as It reminds you, James Cameron has wasted 20 years of his creat creating life working on this one franchise when he could be back to Terminator or Alien or anything that was prominent in. creating something Or creating something brand new, yeah. But, I mean, technically he did create this, so I understand why he spent...
00:29:33
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This is definitely just Titanic. Yeah. Like this has been his projects in Titanic. Definitely a passion for him. and You can tell yeah for every, every, every screen of this. You can tell. I wouldn't be surprised if he is done with this series, even though did just announce the release date for the fifth one. yeah Um, if he gets somebody else to direct or maybe move forward, I wouldn't be surprised, but yeah.
00:29:55
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Yeah, I mean, it's good. These movies are what they are. Yeah.

Year in Review: Major Releases

00:30:00
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Yeah, me too. I was going to say that. Yeah, you're pretty much dead on with that. That's how I feel. I mean, honestly, I'll probably get the 4Ks when they release as a complete set in like 2040. But, you know. If that's even around. If there is even physical media, then yeah.
00:30:16
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there is even physical media then yeah I will say, this is the one time that the 3D disappointed me. um That was kind of the known thing for the these Avatar movies. The first one was amazing. The second one even was better. But this time, didn't care.
00:30:32
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but My favorite part of the 3D in the first one was any scene where there was fire yeah and and the ashes coming down on from said fire. You really didn't get that. like It literally felt like they were like in the room with you when you saw that 3D in 2009.
00:30:49
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But yeah, I mean, it was still good. It still looked good, but... Yep. It still looked great. It's fucking Avatar. Yep. air it's All the movies are pretty much what you'd expect all the movies to be. If you've seen one, you've seen them all. Four out of five for me. I think the whole entire series is kind of like on that same range, three and a half to four.
00:31:09
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um And like I mentioned, you all but this is just this is just his passion project for conservationism and pollution and and and colonization and everything. It's kind of his political slash... um just just the way the world is right now um and and how everybody and humans are and how they like to destroy, I guess. um And it reminds me a lot of planet of Captain Planet, like I kind of joked about, but it does remind me. Every time I think about these movies, especially as being this there's going to be five of them and there's five Captain Planet members, they're kind of being
00:31:44
Speaker
thing about these movies too is like every movie has like a bunch of james cameron references to other james cameron movies like in this movie we saw the legitimate like scene from aliens where he's showing sigourney weaner weaver had a fucking load of gun like yeah they showed us that scene like twice in this movie um we got a titanic scene of them on the bow of the ship about to set sail um but yeah They're Avatar movies. I mean, they're what they are. You get those exoskeletons we got from the very first movie from, like, Alien. So, yeah. Yeah, you're right. It's all repackaged James Cameron.
00:32:17
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what he knows What he knows best. The last one was a lot of taken from the abyss, I noticed. Yeah, it was. The second was lot taken from the abyss. And I will say the second one had a lot of really cool underwater stuff that we had never seen before. And this duplicated that. Considering all that stuff's fake and and it had to be done in CGI, it looked fantastic. and du It still does even now. So, yeah, great movie. um If you love these movies, you'll like this one, too. It's definitely like you mentioned, see it once.
00:32:45
Speaker
You're probably not going to want to sit through another three hours and see it again. Once you see it, you see it. I was lost a little bit just because I didn't go back and watch the second one, but it didn't really fucking matter. After everything, it didn't really matter at the end. I think about it. I knew what's going on.
00:32:59
Speaker
Like I was telling people last night, like if I was like 10 or 11 when these were coming out, like, yeah or I saw them all for the first time, out I would probably love them because I had wouldn't have seen so much James Cameron at that point. um They'd probably be like my favorite thing on earth, which I've noticed lot the younger kids I talk to absolutely love these movies. um Yeah.
00:33:15
Speaker
yeah me too so i mean the story is very basic it's very easy to follow um it looks absolutely fantastic um yeah these movies are what you know what you're getting when you go into um they're enjoyable the thing about these movies are they are popular in america but they are gangbusters in the world yes globally these are huge all these movies that's why they so that's why they make them I think the last one only made like... I mean, it's only made, but it's a huge number with like $600 million domestically.
00:33:43
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And another like $1.9 billion overseas or whatever it was. um Yeah, the estimate's $120, I think, this week on the estimate. So, um yeah. Go watch that. It's in the theaters. um Was going to watch Wicked after this, but I had to wait an hour and a half between movies. Did not see it. So I will see this eventually, probably when it comes to the home video. Unfortunately, i I mentioned it before.
00:34:08
Speaker
It was. I wanted to watch it before the end of the year, but I didn't get to it. But like I mentioned before, it Wicked 1, the best parts of the musical, are in that movie. And I've known that from when I saw that last year. um There's nothing... i mean, the story is still there. i mean and and the ending of the story, bridging it to the Wizard of Oz that we know. um and I'm very interested in that. I want to see it. I want to see the new music. yeah I love the actors. I love the way this story is told, but I'll get to it eventually. but um Speaking of year in review, let's talk about the year, this past year, um and what we have...
00:34:45
Speaker
Kind of a shit. There we go. um I found this picture. I thought it was awesome. It's a lot of of the movies that we like. Some of them we like, some of them we never watch. But Nagatomi Plaza is right in the background there. um But the year in review, movies, the year of Superman, that was the big thing this year.
00:35:06
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um We went through the very infancy Of Superman. From how his origins started in the 30s to the movies with Christopher Reeves to the television shows to Smallville. We did a big watch of Smallville and Superboy and Lois and Superman and Lois. I went back and watched that whole entire series this year. All leading up to probably our best superhero movie this year by far. James Gunn's Superman. I think we both agree on that, right?
00:35:37
Speaker
um For sure. I mean, it's just, it's everything we hoped it would be. really liked it, yeah. Exactly. It gave us hope for what's to come. um Of course, we got Supergirl next year. We'll talk about the the year to come, but... um, so much rides on that movie. Um, and I think it delivered for what, for what it needed to do for us as fans versus the consumers, um, to this product and to this universe and bringing us in there to, the one, the one thing I took from that movie is the open universe and how much, uh, exploration I want to see of that universe going forward. Um, and we got Peacemaker. We'll talk about that in a minute, but we got Peacemaker after that opened up a little bit more, but, um,
00:36:17
Speaker
After that, a month after, we did the Watchmen Watch. We had a whole month of September doing the Watchmen, from the comic book to the animated, to the to the Zack Snyder movie, to the series. we watched I watched the whole entire series for the first time. We talked about the the creation of the Watchmen, how it was created to the Charlton characters of DC Comics, and um how that connected to the Peacemaker show.
00:36:41
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Nosferatu, watched at the beginning of the year. ah Marvel had three movies this year. Started off with Captain America Brave New World, which is okay. of Thunderbolts, which is a surprise. I think the surprise hit from Marvel this year. love that movie. Yeah, and Fantastic Four. I think out of all of them, I think you probably love that the most out of all the Marvel movies. It was awesome.
00:37:03
Speaker
It was awesome. Yeah. well but if it's The mental health story of that was amazing. And Fantastic Four, which is just a childhood dream for a kid like me who watched that cartoon growing up in the 90s and read some of the comic books. Fantastic Four coming to life in the MCU was great with Pedro and Joseph Quinn and Evan Moss Bacharach and Vanessa Kirby all coming in and playing those four characters was outstanding. Yeah.
00:37:31
Speaker
Companion saw that at beginning of the year Mickey 17 as well my movie of the year was Sinners by far mentioned it before it was a great experience in the theater great story Michael B. Jordan so mad we don't have IMAX nearest I really want to see that in IMAX Yeah, me too. We do, but it's just a pain in the ass to travel an hour to it. yeah um But overall, best movie in the year, by far. um Right now, that... um One Battle of the Another was also very good, but right now Life Center way ahead of everything else. um Yeah, me too. The watchability of that movie is so high.
00:38:08
Speaker
yeah um And like I got the 4K specifically because they keep the aspect ratios from IMAX. And that disc just looks absolutely amazing. That's the main reason why I wanted a 4K player is a lot of Nolan's movies when they're digital, they aren't.
00:38:21
Speaker
They don't keep the aspect ratio, so I wanted all that stuff because I'm a nerd. um But yeah, I i love Sinners. The ancient folklore in that movie, the Irish folklore, is incredible. If you're Irish, like you and I are, that is incredible to see. just The Irish folklore, the dance that I think Jack O'Connell is his name, does in that movie is and instant incredible. um Yeah, that's that's a great movie. um a Mission Impossible, Final Reckoning. Saw that in the theater.
00:38:49
Speaker
Great movie. Happy Gilmore 2. Didn't live up to the hype of the first one. Wasn't as good. and We always say the reboots sometimes fall flat. This is kind of one of those one of those types, but I do love Happy Gilmore. um Weapons, my second favorite movie of the year. I was blown away by that movie.
00:39:07
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That's the one I was thinking of too, besides one battle for another. um yeah Those are top three, but for me it's like Sinners, a little bit of Room, and then yeah Weapons, and then OBA. Yeah.
00:39:19
Speaker
yeah Yeah. I think you're right on that. i got I got a lot to catch up on. and We'll probably discuss like before the Oscars, maybe the Oscar preview show, like our top five or something like that. Yep. Yeah, for sure. yeah um The Long Walk, another surprise hit for me. Stephen King, story great movie.
00:39:34
Speaker
Caught Stealing, I love that movie too. Surprise movie for me. yeah surprise yep Frankenstein, a decent movie on Netflix. I love Frankenstein. I think I liked it more than you. absolutely loved it. Roofman, another good movie. One bad after another, like you mentioned. Probably one of the better movies of the year.
00:39:50
Speaker
um wake up dead man just watch that great knives out movie yeah continues that whole saga um documentaries of the year always mentioned how the fuck are we going to get great documentaries this year we got some great ones starting off the year we did a whole watch of a series called celtic city on hbo all about the history of the celtics it was incredible it got me into watching the last dance which came out like a decade ago about michael jordan that was incredible Pee-wee as himself about Pee-wee Herman selling Superman. We did that during the year of Superman. Great documentary. Watching the Odyssey concert on in July. That was sad. him Him dying and then watching the documentary come out in October was a sad, sad part of the year. But I did want to mention that. The Live Aid 40th anniversary happened. That was a great documentary. um john's 50th anniversary documentary came out that was great eminem had a documentary called stands great documentary um billy joel documentary and so it goes great as well wwe opened up the curtain had their wwe unreal that was fantastic on netflix um the charlie sheen documentary mr scorsese documentary both great on netflix um drew strusen rest in peace the Comic book artist, either the movie artist, movie poster artist, passed away. Great documentary I watched on him. That was from probably a decade ago. um But my favorite documentary this year was John Candy, I Like Me. um It just hit home to me prefer for what I loved about him and in the movies he he he made. Being Eddie came out. The American Revolution by Ken Burns.
00:41:24
Speaker
Great documentary, and it's definitely a niche audience. I did want to mention that. And the last one we ended this year on, Sean Combs' The Reckoning, produced by 50 Cent. Incredible storytelling in that documentary, too. And TV shows this year um had a huge Dexter watch last year, leading up to Dexter or Original Sin, which got canceled for the second season. But we did get Resurrection, which was incredible. That was the highlight of the year for us.
00:41:50
Speaker
um SNL had their 50th anniversary and it had music uh specials a huge 50th anniversary concert um the Downey special and of course the 50th anniversary special that aired on their 50th anniversary of all all the cast coming back and doing sketches that was great um Dark Side of the Ring had a had a series this at a season this year.
00:42:09
Speaker
Brand new series, of Paradise on Hulu. That was great. Sci-fi story. Marvel had some television. It had Spider-Man, the cartoon, which was great. It had Daredevil, Born Again, Daredevil cast coming back, telling a whole season. The second season coming out in March. And Ironheart. I really was high on that, I thought it was good, too. had a bigger move from Disney.
00:42:32
Speaker
Yeah, allegly sure. Richard did a whole watch of that and caught up before we watched Richard this past season. Great show. Severance, another series I binged, got into the new season, fantastic. The Studio.
00:42:46
Speaker
I think this is probably one of my favorite series this year. of Just the storytelling, that the writing of that show and Seth Rogen and the story of Hollywood is just depicted well in that, fantastic. Winning Time, I watched that during Celtic City Watch. Mobland, another show I loved, talked highly about.
00:43:04
Speaker
And The Last of Us Season 2. um tech took a moment from the game that everybody knew was going to happen a very pivotal moment with uh with joel and did a did a fantastic fantastic job telling that story of joel and how he was massacred spoiler but um we saw andor the end of andor um season two that was great bad thoughts by um by tom segura and tires um by Shane Gillis both great shows on Netflix Predator Killers of Killers still haven't seen Badlands yet but Killers of Killers was fantastic that was the animated series on Hulu um the whole 28 days weeks years later universe I caught up on all of that that was good New Season of the Bear, we watched that. Superman and Lois, like I mentioned, watched that. Sandman finale, we had that. Squid Game, Wednesday.
00:43:57
Speaker
Best series before the one I just talked about earlier was Peacemaker. Probably number two for me. Alien Earth, good in the beginning, kind of slowed towards the end. Went back, watched Band of Brothers, great series. um The Paper, the continuation of The Office, kind of spin-off spinoff The Office was good. um gen v continuation of the boys um you watched in love monster ed game wanted to bring that up i'm looking at this list i can't believe half this shit came out this year like and or feels like three years ago i know um last of us even feels like three years it does yeah all the beginning of the year dark side like all of this shit i'm like this was all in the same year like
00:44:39
Speaker
What the hell, man? It's been a very good year. bing watch Binge Watch Tulsa King. Great show. Welcome to Derry, my favorite show of the year by far.

Holiday Traditions and Specials

00:44:51
Speaker
Pluribus, continuing to watch that, but it's great as well. and Death by Lightning, I wanted to mention that too. That was the Michael Shannon ah movie about James Garfield, the president who gets assassinated. That was great. A TV show miniseries. um This year we talked about the any and NES 40th anniversary.
00:45:07
Speaker
John Cena's farewell tour was a big part of the year. And the Warner Brothers merger is kind of what the whole last part of this year has been focused on. um so oh Can I interrupt you for a sec? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:45:19
Speaker
Just fair warning. i don't know if you can hear that, but the wind is howling. So if I lose power, I'll drop out and I'll text you or whatever. Okay, yeah. but you Give you a warning just in case. Yeah, no problem.
00:45:30
Speaker
So yeah, that's the year. When we come back from our vacation, we'll talk about 2026 and what we have to look forward to. There's a lot. A lot of stuff got pushed back last year because of the writer's strike we're getting next year, including the Avengers, including Spider-Man and some other shows and TV and movies. but um Before we get into news, we have one more thing we want to talk about.
00:45:51
Speaker
We want to talk about... We didn't do any Christmas movies this year, but we do want to talk about... Are Christmas movie Mount Rushmore? And what four movies are our must-watches for this time of year?
00:46:04
Speaker
um Are you there? Yeah, I'm here. Okay, I just want to make sure because you're picturing out. If you see this, no. I'll disappear completely if I'm not here. Remember. Okay, okay. If you see this, I'm still here. I'm just lazy and don't feel like being on camera sometimes.
00:46:16
Speaker
That's cool. um But we did have we did want to talk about our Christmas movie, Mount Rushmore. Four movies that we want to watch um every year that we always make a point to watch. As you can see in my background, one of my movies, I know is one of yours as well, is Home Alone. The McAllister house in the background. um That movie resonates with me from a childhood.
00:46:37
Speaker
Of course, we watched it when we were kids. came out in 1990, the original. And I put one and two together, Escape to New York or Lost in New York. loss Yeah, I just include Home Alone as one and two together. like yeah Yeah, I do. i In fact, when I watch them, I usually watch them back to back. Same. Yep.
00:46:56
Speaker
For me, Home Alone would being one. Number two is Elf. I love that that movie. I'm not a huge fan, besides Step Brothers and Elf, I'm not a huge fan of Will Ferrell. yeah um But i I love Elf so much. It's a great movie. The casting in that is is fantastic. I'm a big fan of him in small doses, like when he's in like Wedding Crashers. He's perfect, but I'm not a huge fan of him leading old school.
00:47:20
Speaker
Old school, yeah. that's But I'm not a fan of his leading movies. el I watched for the first time for the podcast. Yes, you did. like Our first year or second year. Yep. Very good. um I never saw it growing up. It's from, what, 2003? Yep.
00:47:35
Speaker
But it was always ah it was like one of the most replayed Christmas movies since then. yeah So, yeah, it's very good. Go on with your list. ah Number three for me is Muppets Christmas Carol. I love that movie. It's the only Christmas Carol I like. I love the music in it. love the story of it.
00:47:49
Speaker
um And number four, which I know is probably your number one, is Die Hard. And if you say it's not a Christmas movie... Um, you're wrong. Even though it's, it's set in Christmas, there's Christmas music. Um, it is a tradition that Kevin got me into. It's diehard on Christmas Eve and it's, uh, there's no, uh, complaints or anything about it. Um, it is just, uh, it is just, uh, definitely number four for me. Yep.
00:48:13
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Anything I didn't mention that you, uh, go out of your way. I know a lot of people watch Christmas vacation, uh, the, uh, National Lampoon. Alright, I'll go over my list. oh Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:48:24
Speaker
That's actually my number one is Christmas Vacation. It is? Okay. Yep, that has been my number one for a long time. um Then number two is actually Home Alone. Okay, yeah.
00:48:36
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Number three is Die Hard. Okay. And number four, and these are like, they're better Christmas movies than this last one out there, but um these are the four I make sure I watch every December, and the fourth one is Batman Returns.
00:48:50
Speaker
Yep. Yeah, you gotta do that too. Um... It's always been that way for me. So, yeah. And do you want me to get into the shows? No, I have one more underrated one more underrated movie.
00:49:03
Speaker
ah the one with seth rogen and michael shannon who kind of plays like the ghost of Christmas past. I can't remember the name of it. now this ah What's the name of that Christmas movie? I can't think of it. Have I even seen it?
00:49:17
Speaker
Oh, yeah, you have. Seth Rogen and Joseph Gordon-Levitt and Anthony Mackie. They have this like they have this um tour of New York City when they're adults, and they get this whole big box of drugs to take. And they're trying to get into this party that's on a rooftop that's run by Michael Shannon.
00:49:36
Speaker
um And he's kind of like this ghostly figure in the movie. I wish I knew the name of it off the top of my head. But it's it's one of my favorite underrated movies. I want to look it up because it's going to bother me if I don't.
00:49:48
Speaker
Okay. Seth Rogen Christmas movie. um The Night Before. It came out 2015. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Great movie. I love that movie. Bad Santa, of course. Too naughty for this movie. I love those movies, too. Those are kind of my honorable mentions. Yeah, go go over and what you love about TV.
00:50:08
Speaker
TV honorable mentions. um These are ones um I grew up watching. ah interesting The Garfield Christmas Special. Okay, yeah. Is one of my favorite things of all time. Me and my sisters usually quote that all the time.
00:50:21
Speaker
Number two is my favorite... One of my favorite Christmas albums also, but Chipmunks Christmas. Loved that. yeah um Classic. Then, of course, three. Grinch. I mean, come on.
00:50:32
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ah And four is... always I've always loved, like... I kind of have, like, a tie. It's always, like... Charlie Brown. Love that one. Rudolph and Frosty the Snowman are all kind of in the same ballpark for me.
00:50:45
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um I love all those. And my honorable mention is because I watch it every year to kick off Christmas since it was released was I watch it on Thanksgiving night is ah the Guardians the Galaxy special.
00:50:57
Speaker
Yeah, that's on my list as well. Guardians the Galaxy now. um The Grinch is also on my list. For me, television, the whole entire series of The Office, each season I believe had a Christmas episode. Those are all fantastic episodes. um Great storytelling. Some of the greatest arcs of that series come out of those Christmas episodes in the office.
00:51:19
Speaker
um Night Court has some great Christmas episodes. There was another series I was thinking of earlier. The Always Sunny Christmas episode? Always Sunny movie. They had special movie special. is like two-hour long Christmas. That was fantastic about Charlie and his mom. and um I think it's technically just a long episode because there's commercials. So i think it's like it just over an hour technically. um That one's great. ah the ground park South Park. South Park. The countless episodes. Yeah. yeah um Yeah.
00:51:49
Speaker
Christmas TV stuff. Yeah, overall, we definitely ate good during Christmas for our watching throughout the years and looking forward to seeing seeing new

Industry News and Tributes

00:51:59
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stuff. I didn't notice this year wasn't a lot of new movies, not none not a none and no i lot new Christmas stuff. And a movie I do want to check out, which I have not seen in years, um I always forget about, but I loved it back in the day, was The Santa Claus. He's front and center here on the poster.
00:52:14
Speaker
oh i have not seen that movie in probably 15 20 years first one is fantastic yeah i used to yeah i love that movie yeah i enjoyed the second one i never saw the third there was a third right they're okay yeah yeah okay um yeah switching is okay but we have never talked we have never talked about tim allen on this show ever and he was so huge in the ninety s what are your thoughts of america of a home improvement back in the day did you like that show Cocaine's a hell of a drug. Yes, I did like that show. I did too. Yeah, a lot people shit on it now, but I did love that show back in the day and the three kids and everybody who were superstars. It was one of the core shows for me. know you didn't watch Seinfeld, it was like Seinfeld for me. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. King of Queens. It was like one of the core shows that I'd watch.
00:52:54
Speaker
Another great movie by Tim Allen. Wow, we went into Tim Allen's tangent. Jungle the Jungle. Yes. Remember that movie? Yep. Baboon! I fucking love that movie. That's a great movie, yeah. yeah Yeah, that's our Christmas for this year. We'll come back ah next year. We'll talk about the year going forward in a couple weeks. but um Until then, let's get into the news.
00:53:21
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We're already an hour in, my friend. Yep. Almost. Almost, yep. And it's not new segment. There's trail around it
00:53:30
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We've brand new trailer for Stranger Things, Volume 2, Season 5, Volume 2 comes out on Christmas Day next week. i'm Very excited for that. We'll watch that talk about it when we come back in the finale as well.
00:53:42
Speaker
um We got the first trailer and first posters for Spielberg's next movie called Disclosure Day. comes out June 12th of Very sci-fi, space, alien, slash people being taken over and turning into looks like deer. I don't fucking know what's going I don't think anybody knows what's going on here. but um Emily Blunt and what's his name? Josh O'Connell. he said We said got to remember this kid's name because um he was great in the Knives Out sequel. Challengers. Challengers, too. um and He's a star. Emily Blunt. Yeah, yeah. yeah um I don't know if you saw this trailer with Hugh Jackman, but it looks great. called The Sheep Detective. how do you see this trailer? I didn't see it. I heard about it.
00:54:25
Speaker
it looks really It looks like Paddington meets Knives Out. Really? great Yeah, it looks crazy. Hugh Jackman starts as a sheep herder and there's a whole bunch of talking sheep in this. Reminds me of Babe 2.
00:54:37
Speaker
um And the talking sheep are trying to solve the murder of Hugh Jackman. And it it reminds me, it's set in like British slash Scottish. i think I don't really know where they are, but big, huge voice cast. Patrick Stewart, Julia Louis-Dreyfus, a whole bunch of other people. Brett Goldstein's in there, Bella Ramsey. So yeah. Uh, huge, uh, huge voice cast, but it looked good. Um, and Tom Cruise is doing a comedy again. uh, directed by the guy who did Birdman. And what's the other movie he did? The big movie. Um, I thought, uh, blanking me right now. He did after Birdman. We, I think we liked it too. and I remember what it was. Um, look that up for a minute. Look that up for a minute. Um, but yeah, um, Tom Cruise, Doing a comedy. Hasn't done a comedy since the 80s? No, maybe he know he did that he did that one with... Tropic Thunder. Yeah, he did Tropic Thunder, but he did that one with... um um um sure ah not sure I always want to say Charlize, but it's Cameron Diaz. but They filmed it in Boston, too. I can't remember the name of it. That came out like a decade ago.
00:55:44
Speaker
but ah But yeah. The Revenant. The Revenant, that's what i was thinking of, yeah. That's great movie. um Young Sherlock, a new series done by Guy Ritchie, a prequel to the movies that he did, the Sherlock Holmes movies starring Robert Downey Jr. and Jude Law. A prequel series for that coming out on Prime on March 4th. Got a brand new poster, brand new trailer for that. Looked good.
00:56:09
Speaker
um And that's it for our trailers. Box Office last weekend was kind of a whimper. um Zootopia 2, third week, made $26 million. Five Nights at Freddy's. Those movies do great, but the reviews of those are like 2 out of 10.
00:56:23
Speaker
they're They're horrible for the Five Nights Freddy's movies. 19.5 for second place. And Wicked for Good for the fourth week was number 3 with $8.5 million. um HBO's ah It Welcome to Dairy.
00:56:38
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um is in the platform's top three original debuts of all time behind The Last of Us and House of Dragon, which I mentioned, had 6.5 million viewers during the finale, averaging 20 million people watching that show globally during the first weekend of that its very first week of that show. Incredible. And that's why that show is going to be on their docket for a while. Like you said, season four is pretty much a given. um And speaking of ratings, um PBS has entered Ken Burns' The American Revolution in the top ten for the very first time and in his career. 565 million minutes watched. Well, that documentary is about 565 million minutes if you watch all ten episodes. but
00:57:22
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yeah it's It's a great documentary if you're into that type of thing. and i know a lot of people bought it because was on sale on iTunes too. so yeah That's great to hear. um Rest in peace to Peter Green.
00:57:35
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um If you've seen Pulp Fiction, you know him as the Gimp. um He also was the bad guy in the mask. That's what I knew him for before that. but He passed away mysteriously.
00:57:46
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Low key. ah I think my favorite movie with him, I'm pretty sure he was in Blue Streak with Martin Lawrence. Was he the bad guy in that too? He very well could have been. don't He screwed Martin Lawrence, I believe. Oh, in the beginning of the movie. You are right. Yeah. Holy shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was always the movie that I recognized him from. and like Very good character actor. He's excellent in everything. um He's kind of the same character in everything that I've seen him in many he has that that voice is very His voice is very distinct, I feel like.
00:58:16
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um but Yeah, very good. It's sad. Young, 60 years old. Yeah. He's 60 years old and they found him in a ah pool of blood. You hear about that? Yeah, he yeah. said he got tough He said he was injured before he died, too. So there's something mysterious going on. Yeah, it's it's tough with actors, too. like I know that like he was found in a pool of blood, but 60s young, but the same time, a lot of actors did some shit when they were younger. And it catches up to you even if you're not doing anymore. um I don't think that was the case with him. That just sounds like a little suspicious behavior like Bob Saget occurred.
00:58:47
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Oh, yeah, yeah. But, ah yeah, RIP to him. And rest in peace to Rob Reiner. This one hit hard for any movie lover of the 80s and 90s. Got his start on...
00:59:00
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All in the family as Meathead, of course. Everybody talks about that. um He was kind of the voice of reason with Archie Bunker being the racist, sexist person that he was. um he was kind of in a world where after after the Vietnam War and everybody's peace and love, he was the hippie that was kind of like a love, love not war kind of deal. And he was always butting heads with ah Archie Bunker. But and that's kind of his start.
00:59:25
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they kind of reversed that on family ties with Michael J. Fox being the young Republican yeah the father who's a hippie. Um, but yeah, did you want continue on. Um, he got his start on that. When he was on that show, he used to watch the camera operators and the behind the scenes of how that show was made. And he decided that he wanted to get into directing.
00:59:41
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And his very first movie was this is spinal tap, which I'm playing on talking about when we come back. going watch the sequel as well. Oh, no that's on. It's on HBO. I think it's somewhere streaming now. Yeah. Um,
00:59:52
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After that, after the Spinal Tap movie, he just went nuts with movies directing, with a lot of classics. um Going from Stand By Me, we just talked about that recently on the podcast. Great movie.
01:00:06
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bright Princess Bride is his classic. It's probably what what everybody's going remember him from, what from the sci-fi fan fany fantasy storytelling that it told. Mm-hmm.
01:00:18
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um A Few Good Men, never saw that. It's on my list of things to watch with Tom Cruise. um Harry Met Sally, known to be one of the the best um known to be one of the best romantic comedies ever made.
01:00:34
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Misery, just talked about that on the podcast with steve another Stephen King adaptation that he did. um He directed two of them, and that was the second one. Misery was outstanding. got What's her name? Kathy Bates got start because of him. Another movie, American President. as He's done so much. He just did the sequel to Spinal Tap this year. so Died in a way horrible.
01:00:58
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His son killed him. Mentally unstable kid who had a lot of mental health and drug issues. um And heartbreaking that he lost his wife as well.
01:01:08
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They said that, ah I believe it came out today, that they switched his medication like within the last month. Yeah, I saw that. And he got into a fight. Who did he get into a fight with at the Cone the Blind?
01:01:19
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Bill Hader. Bill Hader, yeah. He'll be living with that, unfortunately, even though it's not his fault for the rest of his life. Yeah. Just because it's one of those things. Yeah, paparazzi are already already following Bill Hader around, which sucks for yeah for him. Yeah.
01:01:32
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We love Bill Hader. I'd say we're both Bill Hader fans, i would say um We both like him a lot. um So it's going to suck for him. Yeah, this is tragic. oh yeah' Very tragic. 78 years old. yeahp Wife was 68, too.
01:01:45
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um Both of them murdered by their son. Horrible. man Horrible. This man did... The number two and number three best adaptations of Stephen King's work, in my opinion, will Stand By Me and Misery.
01:01:56
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Those are still my second and third favorite movies of anything Stephen King has done. And his acting work should not be, I mean, the whole for Wall Street. He's incredible as Leo's father. i always forget he's in that.
01:02:08
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ah incredible is Leo's father in that. been seeing clips of it all week and I forgot. I've got to go back and watch that movie too. I may do that. ye I may do that when we come back. going to watch this. right. Yeah, we'll do the same. Okay, we'll watch that again. I've only seen it once. Yeah, I saw it once. so ye The clips I saw of him were outstanding. Rest in peace to Rob Reiner.

Streaming Costs and Future of Oscars

01:02:28
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Incredible actor, incredible director, incredible person of Hollywood stardom. We talk about on the podcast all the time going into news, the streaming, and what we started out, and we were in the infancy, we were in the renaissance of streaming, and what the fuck happened? When we started back in the day, Disney Plus was $6.99, now $11.99. Hulu was $8, now $11.99. Netflix, best Netflix with HD everything, $7.99.
01:02:54
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netflix the best netflix with h d and and everything seven ninety nine Without ads. Now it's $17.99. Paramount Plus $8.99 $14.99. HBO up to $18.49. get picture here. Apple was $4.99. $12.99. Everything's gone up much.
01:03:08
Speaker
hbo max up to eighteen forty nine you get the picture here apple tv was four ninety nine now twelve ninety nine everything's gone up so much And I just wanted to, I saw this picture on there. I wanted to share it with everybody, but um it's just a crazy, crazy time um of how, don't know how we were living in royalty back in 2020, 2019. And now we're fucked with our our wallets are fucked more than we are. but Content is there. Great content, but we're paying for it. um And Warner Brothers.
01:03:40
Speaker
Back on their shit again. Let's talk about it. Jared Kushner, Donald Trump's son-in-law, backs out of the Paramount Warner Brothers bid. He had his money in the pocket of Paramount backed out. And because of that, Warner Brothers rejected their... um buyout, their hostile takeover. saying They're saying that they're going to go with their existing agreement with Netflix and they they they consider it greater value and certainty and in the terms of it are so much better. and The hostility of everything connected to the the Trump administration I think was the big thing that turned them off. um
01:04:15
Speaker
And also another bid that came in last last month or last year that we didn't hear about, Starz. offered $25 billion dollars just for the cable networks alone and 20% of the studio too, but they were denied that. It's like, yeah, that's not enough. Zazoff's like, no, that's not enough. Speaking of Zazoff, here's a picture of them giving of him giving a tour to the co-CEOs of Netflix, Greg Peters and Ted Sarandos a couple days ago on the back lot of the Warner Brothers studio. So already looking at their assets that they purchased. So, um... Yeah.
01:04:51
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Speaking of Hollywood, speaking of crazy shit, um the Oscars, starting in 2029, are coming to YouTube. um I mention it every once in a while that streaming is kind of, I mean, cable's dead.
01:05:05
Speaker
Streaming is the future, and this is just the natural natural progression of how this is going to go. honestly it's the best thing they could do because they've been on an abc forever right and they're like the one yeah thing that doesn't like stream like you couldn't like find it i think i think if in 2029 they're also going to start catering to different audiences i feel like to get people to tune in but if it's just free on youtube i think more people will be likely to tune in um because there's been many times um i want to watch the oscars and i'm traveling because that's usually when i go to florida yep um
01:05:37
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And i have to find it like an illegal stream of it somewhere, like sign up for YouTube TV for the night or something. So, yeah. You know what's going to be great when this airs on YouTube? Are the comments on the like on the right side when you're watching on your television because you can turn the comments on and watch the commentary of people commenting on the YouTube stream?
01:05:54
Speaker
Yep. how are they going How are they going to control that? Yeah, maybe they can. Yeah, maybe they can. I don't know. You can turn it off. Okay. Yeah, well, that'd be interesting. They shouldn't because that be great. um In a record deal, Sony has acquired partial control of the Peanuts,
01:06:10
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They cartooned the Peanuts for $457 million. dollars um I'm not a huge fan. I'm not a huge fan of the Peanuts. Never have been. That's why I didn't mention it during Christmas movies. Yeah, it's still the thing I like from them because I grew up on it. And I'm not a huge fan, but yeah.
01:06:28
Speaker
but yeah huge amount of money and i believe they're owned by the people who own knott's berry farm in california which is a theme park um so yeah um kit harrington talking about game of thrones and saying that um he is not going to ever reprise john snow again no god no I don't want to go anywhere near it. I spent 10 years doing that. Thanks. I'm all right. Wasn't there supposed to be a Jon Snow spin-off series? I don't know. if Maybe that's why he decided because it didn't get pushed forward. So he's just like, I'm done. I don't care about it anymore. Or maybe that was just a rumor that they wanted to do it. but Maybe he wasn't on board yet. i don't know.
01:07:04
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Right, yeah. Got the very new look at The Fall and Rise of Reggie Dinkins. This is from the creators of 30 Rock. It's a new series starring Tracy Morgan and Daniel Radcliffe, Harry Potter himself. Follows an NFL superstar banned from the league who decides to hire a filmmaker to make a documentary about his life to win back the respect of the public. Um, it's the very first look of it going to be on NBC, I guess, or Peacock or one of those, um, joining the cast of Tomb Raider, Jason Isaac, Jason Isaac played, um, Lucius Malfoy in Harry Potter. He was in the Patriot, the bad guy in the Patriot. It's been a lot of stuff, but Jason Isaac, a great, great actor. uh, joining Tomb Raider, um, who is, uh, Laura Croft is being played by, what's her name, Sasha Stark, or, what her name, uh, from, uh, Game of Thrones, uh, Sansa, Sansa, yeah, yeah, can't remember her name. What the fuck is her name?
01:08:00
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ah Yeah, she married a Jonas brother. she married Sophie Turner. brothers sto turn ye Yep, that's it.

Upcoming Projects and Leaks

01:08:05
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Point Break being adapted into a TV series by AMC Networks. Oh, not yet.
01:08:13
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By AMC Networks. Series is going to be set in 2026, 35 years after the events of the original film. So it's not a reboot. It's a continuation. If it's greenlit, the TV show will follow a dangerous heist group with ties to the ex-president's gang from the original movie. Um, and when this came out, James Cameron's doing interviews for Avatar, and he mentioned that he actually wrote the original Point Break. Um, and he got stiffed by the Writers Guild on that and didn't get paid for it. was, uh, he was uncredited for it. Um, he's been talking about that and how it was bullshit. So, yeah. Um, and he's also talking about, uh, having other stories to tell. Um, and like you mentioned, we were talking about avatar. Um, he's not necessarily going to go back, but he may bring other people into, to work on it. So he's been talking a lot about that this week. I, I think, I think to make it a full circle moment, he should end his career by doing the DCU Aquaman movie starring Adrian green. Am I right?
01:09:14
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Am I right? You know that guy's not acting or anything anymore? He like lives on a farm. He doesn't want anything to do with Hollywood. Yeah, yeah he basically ah did the movie and was like, I'm done. Yep, that's exactly what happened. He didn't want to do the podcast.
01:09:27
Speaker
I feel like he could have had a much bigger career if he just went with the whole heartthrob thing, but he got caught up in entourage pretty young, and he probably just did he just came across as a guy that just didn't care after that, probably made so much money from that.
01:09:41
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We had a lot of lot of leaks this week. I think we talked about it last week, the the leak for the Odyssey trailer. i Currently playing in IMAX, came out today, or came out last week. I think it's playing an inter before Avatar, six first six minutes of or six minutes of the Odyssey, about the the invasion of Troy. But we did get the first poster of it. Got some brand new pictures of the Odyssey as well. Came out of um Entertainment Weekly. Got Robert Pattinson there. and And we got Anne Hathaway and Tom Holland. and
01:10:14
Speaker
It just looks like it's going to be an epic movie of of historical proportions. so a Brand new poster for a movie. A a trailer I saw but last month starring Sam Rockwell called Good Luck, Have Fun, Don't die Time travel movie. Film follows a man who takes ah patrons of an L.A. diner hostage, saying that he's from the future and must save them all from A.I. um The trailer looked good. There's going to be a new trailer coming out next month. movie comes out in February, so I'm going to keep an eye on that, um and we'll talk about it. Speaking of movies, on December 23rd, which is on Tuesday, as we record, two days before Christmas, um the Bruce Springsteen movie comes out on digital.
01:10:59
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Starring, what's his name, from the bear, Jeremy Taylor, whatever his name is. like him here right now.
01:11:10
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je ah Jeremy Allen White. allen white yeah that yes sort of this Too many three-name people. yes I'm thinking Jonathan Taylor Thomas. um yes So yeah, it comes out on Tuesday. Beauty and the Beast having a live-action spinoff called Gaston. Not sure if what's-his-name who was in the movie is going to be playing him, but this movie has been in development for a while. I know Josh Gad was rumored to be part of it. i'm not sure if he still is or not because he was in that live-action remake as well. But yeah, I wanted to mention that. Daisy Ridley, Rupert Grint, who played Ron in the Harry Potter movies, have joined the Christmas Carol by to by Ty West, who was already Johnny Depp, Tramiel Tillman, and Anne McKellen were in that movie already. So yeah, Daisy Ridley coming out of Star Wars right before she does the next Star Wars movie, maybe. uh, being part of that cast as well.
01:12:03
Speaker
Um, Lakeith, I want to get opinion on this casting and what he's going to look like, but Lakeith Stanfield, is going to star as Dennis Rodman in 48 Hours in Vegas. We talked about this during our Jordan watch earlier in the year. He's going to be... Jonathan Majors is going to be in this role. He dropped out.
01:12:21
Speaker
um He's going to follow Rodman's Wild Vegas trip in the middle of the 1998 NBA Finals. Wasn't that also the finals that he went on the NWO tour to? Or am I thinking of another time he did that when he left the game and joined the NWO for pay-per-view? That may be a... That might have been 97. Okay, okay. But Moore... 98 was when he was he goes to Vegas and marries Carmen Electra. Yes. Okay.
01:12:46
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Okay, crazy. I think 97 was the... That's a documentary. Wait, we we we wait, wait, wait, hold on, hold 98, they beat the Jazz. So it might have been 99 the next year when he was retired.
01:12:58
Speaker
I think that's what it was because Malone was retired at the time, I believe. And it was the year before that. Well, they thought they talked about it on Winning Time. Or or not on Winning Time, the documentary. I think it may have been 96 97. But phil lord and chris Phil Lord and Chris Miller are going to produce it. Lakeith Stanfield playing Dennis Rodman. I kind of see it I thought Lakeith was short, but maybe they can put him make him look tall. I don't know.
01:13:23
Speaker
but Yeah. That's the only thing. I love the casting. Yeah. Lakeith's going knock out of the park. like to cast him more than Jonathan Majors. He probably dropped out because the subject matter not going to be get a good look coming off of, unless he was kicked off the project. Possibly. But I think Lakeith is going to absolutely knock it out of the park.
01:13:44
Speaker
Yeah, me too. um Marty Supreme. Hearing a lot about this movie, getting in a lot of buzz. um There's a popcorn bucket coming out of a ping pong ball, giant ping pong ball. Um, yeah, these popcorn buckets are ridiculous, but, um, let's get into some swag.
01:14:01
Speaker
Swag! Stuff we all get. Come on, son. You know that's right. The Last Time is Now. John Cena Final Match Funko Pop announced last weekend. Also, RoboCop 1 and 2. Or actually, RoboCop 2 Funko Pop figures announced. Look pretty cool. And NECA. I don't know how to say it, but they are a popular action figure brand. There's coming out so many companies doing this now. Like, really good, high-quality... mcfarlane and this figures and i mean like obviously you got the hot toys and all that stuff like hot toys yep yeah but this figure i mentioned it last week when i saw this episode of him coming out of the bath bloodbath that's gonna make an awesome action figure and it does look awesome um pennywise drenched in blood from the nose down with his face that came out of the bloodbath and it looks awesome um
01:14:54
Speaker
And let's get into the DC News of the Week. We mentioned, I don't know if we mentioned it off-pod, that Batista was rumored to be Brainiac. I think we mentioned it last week. Yeah. And James Gunn has since debunked that. there was no There's no truth to that rumor. They don't even... He hasn't even really gone and officially said that Brainiac's part of the movie, just the media's taking that opinion, even though he's kind of hinted to it, but... um But yeah, he's seen some of the roles that are rumored for the roles and have auditioned. He's not really saying anything about it, though. James Gunn's keeping quiet for once, so that's good. We did mention last week that Brad Pitt was rumored to be starring in The Batman 2, also been debunked since then. um The rumored role that he turned down or that he was going to be a part of was going to be Harvey Dent, I believe, right? Or his father.
01:15:42
Speaker
Or his father. His father, that's what it was. And Scarlett Johansson's character, who is in in talks to be a part of the cast of the Batman 2, is rumored to be playing Gilda Gold, who is the wife of Harvey Dent in the comics.
01:15:56
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you You mentioned off-pod, I think, maybe last week, too, that he's interested if they do a Harvey Dent intro in this movie, and somewhere in the third movie he becomes Two-Face. Doing a story a tragic story of that, which hasn't really been told in the movies. Right. um yeah be exciting um marvel news of the week um some brand new pictures from entertainment weekly preview of of daredevil season two we got matt matthew lillard joining the table with the kingpin we've got karen page and daredevil taught sitting on the roof all moody we got we see the first look of um
01:16:33
Speaker
jessica jones talking to daredevil and the lady from the conjuring and the haunting she's very moody gothic actor from the early 90s late late i mean or late 90s early 2000s um talking to um the fisks in the top right corner there so i'm very excited for that comes out in march um and finally in news Last news article of the week. Last news article of the year. Avengers Doomsday. The one thing we didn't talk about.
01:17:06
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During Avatar, the trailer debuted, exclusive to theaters. However, it leaked earlier Monday. Very grainy footage. And then news of that trailer um came and spread all over the Internet.
01:17:19
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um And an HD version has been created through AI, or 4K version through AI. um And Marvel was working hard and diligently with lawyers to take all of those down from the Internet this week. um that We did see the trailer.
01:17:34
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It came in front of um Avatar very right before the movie started, and it was a confirmation that Steve Rogers, Chris Evans, is going to be part of Avengers Doomsday.
01:17:47
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um It looks to me like they're continuing the story from where Endgame left off. Steve is trying to put the stuff back, that all the all the stones and the hammer and all that stuff the end of Endgame. And he's started his family. in In the trailer, we see him holding a child who presume would be him and Peggy's child. And it was a very quick minute minute glimpse of what we can look forward to. And of course, at the end, saying Steve Rogers will return in doomsday Avengers Doomsday. and the clock timer, starting a timer for 12 months from now. so um And the rumors after that and have kind of been confirmed that this there's going to be four different separate trailers for this movie coming out in the next four weeks, I believe. Second trailer we've already seen, already heard. It's the Thor central trailer, kind of like that, with Thor. I believe he's praying to Odin. um
01:18:43
Speaker
And the third trailer is all going to be about Doctor Doom. And the fourth trailer is going be focusing like on a teaser trailer of the entire movie. um And they're all going be played before Avatar. I guess to keep people in the theater to keep coming weekly to see that movie. I guess. I don't know. I don't know why you would do it in front of Avatar versus something else that maybe you want more people to see. But um i think I think the reason is the IMAX screens.
01:19:06
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Yeah, that makes sense. That's the reason. Yep. That doesn't make sense. But yeah, they, they, all this information is leaked out. Um, the Thor one is, I believe comes out next week. It's already leaked. It's already on the internet. You can hear all about it. The Dr. Doom one. I don't know how they're going to keep that tight lip, but they should, because that should be something that is either the release strategy on this is stupid.
01:19:28
Speaker
Um, they're keeping it tight lips. They're keeping it away from the internet, but I wouldn't do everything. Like I wouldn't even show into a goddamn movie. Yeah, right. You're dead on. Don't show him. Don't show his face or anything. Yeah. The rumor, too, is... Did you see that they're re-releasing Endgame with a new post-credit scene that's going to leave you to Doomsday, I heard? I don't know if that's true or not, but... They are releasing it in September. That makes sense if that is what's going to happen.
01:20:00
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um so And finally... the Also, the other leak of this is the brand new Day trailer leaked as well. And this was grainy. And this has not been fully, fully out yet. And and we were talking about this probably was going to come out by the end of the year.
01:20:15
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um But this leaked showing pretty much Peter Parker telling the audience, hey, you may you don't remember me, but i used I'm Spider-Man. I'm Peter Parker. And he's talking about how how how the world kind of forgot who he was. um And you kind of get a glimpse of Sadie Sink's character from Stranger Things.
01:20:32
Speaker
And she talks about, you're a mess, Spider-Man. Don't get in my way. Otherwise, you won't... it won't be that It won't just be your friends who don't remember who Peter Parker is. In other words, she knows that there was a there was something going on here. So she's probably from the multiverse or knows him that the the thing that Doctor Strange did did not take effect on her. so Who knows when we're going get this trailer and when we're going to get any more information on her character. Hopefully not until the movie. I hope not.
01:21:01
Speaker
um That's it for our show. That's it for the year. um next Next episode on January 2nd when we come back the day after, we're going to have a show and tell. um We'll talk about the Pluribus finale. We'll talk about Stranger Things series, the series finale.
01:21:16
Speaker
There'll be a couple episodes of Fallout before then. We'll talk about that. Nevermore. The Raven Effect, if we ever get to it, it'll be in the new year, hopefully.
01:21:27
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I really do want to see it. It's on Prime, but I don't want to pay $12.99 for it, and especially on Prime. If it was on iTunes, I'd pay for in two seconds. In a heartbeat. Yeah. In a heartbeat. It's just, why would I buy one single thing on Prime?
01:21:39
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Yeah, exactly. It doesn't make sense to just randomly start a collection with one movie that yeah every other movie is going to be available on iTunes, so. yeah awesome but The big thing, the big focus, besides the, I'm going to do a Rob

January Releases Preview

01:21:51
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Reiner watch. I'm going to watch this as Spinal Tap and definitely of Wall Street. Maybe some other ones I'll throw in there, but. The big thing next episode going to 2026 preview. We're going to talk about the year upcoming. Marvel, DC, everything, Supergirl, Avengers Doomsday, Spider-Man. We'll talk about all of that and every other movie in between. Coming in January, we've got a brand new zombie movie coming out on the 2nd called We Bury the Dead, Daisy Ridley and Zombies. On 9th, we've got a horror movie called Primates about a killer primated animal who has rabies and starts attacking people. um bradley cooper has a brand new directorial movie coming out called is this thing on about stand-up comedy comes out on the 9th um 28 years later the bone temple comes out on the 16th everybody raving about that um on netflix a movie called the rip starring ben affleck matt damon set in miami they're police officers some shady drug shit goes down in that in the trailers, looks good. Dead Man's Wire, this is Bill Skarsgard, plays a robbery reminiscent of those 70s, robbery movies back in the day.
01:23:00
Speaker
On the 18th, Night of the Seventh Kingdoms. um Cannot wait for that. WWE Unreal has a brand new season on the 20th on Netflix. um Mercy, a movie starring Chris Pratt, where it's a sci-fi AI thriller where he's found to be accused for murder and he has in an AI court and prove himself wrong.
01:23:21
Speaker
um Wonder Man, all eight episodes debut on the 27th and on the 28th, Striking Season 3 premieres. We're both excited for that. Probably most exciting show that of January. so Thank you everybody for another year. We will talk to everybody in the new year. Until then, happy holidays, happy new year, and peace.
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