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What We Learned This Week - World Cup Break Edition
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Niko Moreno joins Jeremiah for What We Learned This Week or more specifically What We Learned over this “first half” of the season. They discussed how the Sounders were over the course of the season leading up to this World Cup break the league is in. In their second segment the two talk about the transfer window and they hype around Cristian Roldan making the USMNT World Cup roster.
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Introduction and Hosts
00:00:01
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Hi, I'm Will Bruin, and I was just recognized as a Seattle Sounders legend. Now I get to do voice reads for the Sounder at Heart podcast network. Here we go.
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Come on. Hey, O'Shaughness. Let's The Seattle Sounders have done
Celebrating the Sounders' MLS Cup Victory
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it. MLS Cup winners. The Sounders rule the region.
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Ooch of a gooch! All creatures, great and small! Rothrock gonna collect it, he does about, runs into the advertising order. Low to our left, ball goes in! Oh, what a goal! Where's my copy? got bunch of them How many do you cost them? 50 bucks.
00:01:08
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I'll deadline you.
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00:01:43
Speaker
Welcome back to another episode of Nos Audientes on the Sounder at Heart Podcast Network. It is Friday. it is another beautiful sunny day here in the International District of Seattle. We are at the Sounder at Heart headquarters and I am joined, of course, by Nico Moreno.
00:01:58
Speaker
Nico, thank you for coming down here. Fun to be out in Seattle on a day like this, isn't it? It is a beautiful day. my man Jeremiah hooked it up with some Euros too. So, you know, my belly's full. So I'm a happy guy. We're going to have you come all the way down here, up here.
00:02:15
Speaker
You got to make sure you're fed. Oh, man, that that that that does wonders for me. So, yeah, man, I'm feeling good. i am feeling less stressed and less negative than I was on, you know, Tuesday and Monday, ah you know, in our show with with Ari. And so, you know, now we can take a bigger look, a bigger picture at what...
Sounders' Recent Performance Struggles
00:02:38
Speaker
where the sounders are and where they're going. So I'm excited for the show. Yeah. Well, we may as well, you know, we, uh, Aaron and I did a show. Yes. Last night, uh, today's Thursday and full disclosure, although this probably won't come out until Friday, but we did a show where we, uh,
00:02:53
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where we did a mailbag. And so we touched on a lot of things, but we did not really get that much into the LAFC game. I know you talked about the LAFC game and I, we don't need to necessarily go too deep into the LAFC game, but i do want to talk at least a little bit about the way the season, the first half of the season ended.
00:03:10
Speaker
You know, they went the Sounders started six one and one. They set a franchise record or they tied a franchise record for their best start through eight games. And then they, you know, it was looking like it was all lining up because they had five games coming into the store or four games, especially that all looked very winnable. They had the road game against Sporting Kansas City and then they had three home games.
00:03:31
Speaker
And weirdly enough, the one they won was they're probably their toughest game on paper. But they only won once out of their last five games. I thought they looked okay against LAFC.
00:03:43
Speaker
They looked okay, I think, in almost all those games except for the Galaxy game. Sporting Kansas City game, they didn't look great either. But, you know, this is a... They're they're now... You know they're not a bad place. 7-3-3. They're sitting 6th in the West.
00:03:58
Speaker
Not where we thought they'd be, I don't think. No, and you know, now you have to sit on a loss for a couple of months. You got to sit on you know, some question marks about where you are as ah as a team and in the roster.
Player Performance Evaluations
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ah Brian has to sit on on on a couple of...
00:04:23
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choices there but but then again i do praise brian for look just putting certain guys to see what he can get out of those guys and you know that was a high stake game in a difficult stadium somewhere where you've never won in the regular season so if brian called your number and you weren't able to perform, then it is what it is. But now there is a better indication of what happens next. And I know people don't want to hear it. And it's never great when you lose a game, especially in the way that you lost it late in the game on a bit of a play where you fall asleep there or you turn off and it ends up costing you the game.
00:05:14
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So that's a lot of negative things that you kind of got to try to figure out how to spin it correctly, how to use it in a way that that loss was, it and do not kill me for this, but why that loss was worth it or or what what lessons were you able to get out of that? Because the reality is that you lost the three points, but if you're able to use that to...
00:05:38
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start the second part of this year on the right foot, then you know what? Nobody's going to remember that game in l LA. If you're able to get a deep run into the p playoffs, maybe make it to the Western conference finals, but you got to get there.
Team Dynamics and Leadership Challenges
00:05:54
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Well, yeah, and I would say that of all the games that they during this last five, the one game where he had said, well, you lost to LAFC on the road at the beginning of the season. You'd say, well, yeah, of course. I wasn't expecting that. The but one game where they dropped points.
00:06:10
Speaker
No one was really expecting them to get. i mean, this is a 4-0 loss last year. last year They could have, you know but at the same time, they could have won this game. they they had chances.
00:06:21
Speaker
ah Jordan Morris had a really good chance on a break. ah Morris, I actually thought, had an okay game. i I was a little surprised at how much flack he was getting because for me, he helped set up. I mean, he was involved in...
00:06:33
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maybe there are three best chances. There was that one. Then it was the one where he, right at the ah beginning of the second half where he ah takes a good shot, forces a save that goes, that falls to Albert Rusnak and he has Paul Rothrock to his left.
00:06:46
Speaker
And I just, maybe he didn't see him. Maybe he just didn't have quite control of it, but he ends up pulling it back and they ended up not really getting much out of that chance. But then the really good chance that the other really good chance that Morris was involved in is that he basically skins Ryan Holland head, gets to the end line and he sets up,
00:07:03
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Moose for a really good chance and it ends up hitting off the the crossbar. And then, you know, there I think yeah i would also put the Jackson Reagan chance off the Paul Rothrock cross where he slips.
00:07:13
Speaker
But if he doesn't slip, it's almost a capping. But so the Sounders had chance my point to bring this all up was the Sounders had chances in this game. But I do think if we're talking about what we learned during this first half of the season or these even these last five games is that for all the talent that the Sounders have,
00:07:31
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for all the depth that they have, they still don't really, i mean, they don't seem to have one player who can just lift the whole team up. You know, Jesus Ferreira had a game where he was able to do that.
00:07:45
Speaker
But, you know, Albert Rusnak has not quite looked himself. Jordan Morris has not quite, you know, been up to his best. No, one i don't think anyone, any of the offensive players, even Paul Rothrock, who is on his way to a career season, has shown the ability to really take over a game.
00:08:00
Speaker
And he cooled off. ah He cooled off a bit, right? So to your point, yes, there are some big conclusions that go even back to this last LAFC game. and And that's one of them is you...
Recurring Mistakes and Corrections Needed
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don't have currently a guy that's going to take over a game. And even if there has been glimpses from Jesus, there have been ah glimpses from when Christian Roldan is, you know, at his best and he's getting a couple of wide open headers or, you know, shots inside the 18 on a cross. He could put the ball in the back of the net. Snyder's had moments. There isn't really a guy that game in, game out is going to just take over. Number two of what I learned this week is that The Sounders have still, and Brian, regardless of his effort, has been unable to correct bad habits.
00:08:54
Speaker
This game was just a repetition of mistakes by this team. Bad turnovers that the Sounders are lucky or you know talented enough to get away with bad turnovers. There's the Christian Roldan turnover that if it's not for new who that that's going to be a goal. yeah There's a Jackson Reagan turnover. That was very silly that because of Andrew Thomas and a big save,
00:09:23
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doesn't end up or doesn't result in conceding a goal. So yes, turn the alarms because I am extremely upset and and concerned that you cannot get rid of this bad habits. And if we go to the goal is turning off in the worst time in a game, which is in the last five minutes. yeah And this has happened to this team. And so my,
00:09:52
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issue with it is Brian has focused on it, has emphasized on it and it keeps happening. So that that's maybe one of the negative things that I've learned that, I don't know, you got to try to correct.
00:10:06
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Yeah, and I guess if we're, you know, I think that that is a fair
Player Highlights and Standout Performances
00:10:09
Speaker
thing all to point out. I will say if there's one positive thing, and I don't want to get too drowned in negativity. They have not been bad in this first half of the season. No. but there's And there's been some real positives, and one of them I'll say, you know, as much as we expected Andrew Thomas to be the starting goalkeeper, and I think you and I were confident that he would be able to perform, I think he's been...
00:10:31
Speaker
Maybe I think there's a I think there's a legitimate case for him to be the best goalkeeper in the league so far this year, even though, you know, you would have to kind of like crunch some numbers to really make that case. But I do think, you know, he's been, he's done everything that's been asked.
00:10:47
Speaker
I know he doesn't have a shutout, I guess in his last six or seven games, but he has made all the saves that you would expect him to make. I don't know that he has made maybe one bad mistake.
00:10:57
Speaker
You know, I think you can maybe argue in the, uh, in the, in the San Jose game, he, he maybe didn't didn't play that, that back pass the best.
00:11:08
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but he was able to recover. I've been really, really impressed with Andrew Thomas. And, you know, the biggest question I had with him coming into this season was his distribution. And I have not really found that his distribution is problematic at all.
00:11:22
Speaker
You know, it used to be where every time he kicked it long, you were a little worried that where it was going to go. And I'm not saying he's a great passer, but he is not a, he's not someone who I'm now worried about all the time.
00:11:35
Speaker
No, he's he's definitely developed and I've seen the growth. It's not perfect all the time, but he can definitely put it on a dime. He knows how to use his long throw. And that's where I think he puts the ball wherever he wants. um And so he's just been really good at that. So.
00:11:53
Speaker
adding on to a guy like Andrew Thomas, I think in other positives in terms of individual play in that back part of the field has been new who this is the best new who that I think I've seen um in terms of just complete body of work, right? is is It's ah his composure has been there. He's one-on-one defending. It hasn't been perfect. He's had moments where he, I mean, like on the goal, he,
00:12:20
Speaker
He's a little slow he's slow to close. Yep, totally. And there's been times where he's just maybe a little too aggressive or or too far off to to his marker. But overall, I've been very impressed with him.
00:12:34
Speaker
Got an assist already. has at least one assist. At least one. And I would say beyond the assist, what he has not... He's also... just what he's not done, which is he used to be the guy who would just randomly take a shot or lump in a cross when there's not really anything there.
00:12:50
Speaker
And he's been way better about not sort of giving away possessions that he's, you know, he's he's no he's not out there like trying to drop dimes on everything. He could be, ah he's clearly could be a better passer, but it's he's not as much of a negative as he was sometimes offensively where you're just like, what are you doing, bro?
00:13:09
Speaker
And he there's been way fewer of those sort of what are you doing pro moments. Yeah, decision-making, patience overall. So there are some so some good things about what the team has done.
Offensive Struggles and Strategic Improvements
00:13:21
Speaker
Obviously, the big, huge pink or rave green elephant in the room Has been the lack of goals. and And although Jordan Morris, I would agree with you that if we look at the full body of work, he's he's doing other things, right? He's ah able to create moments and chances, and he's very good at getting to the end line. And he's had you know, goals playing in wide areas. I thought that, you know, it really worked when they moved him to the left side against LAFC. It did. And maybe the first.
00:13:52
Speaker
One of the first times we've seen that. Yes. And i think that's something might have to go back to yeah because it does give him that opportunity to cut inside, take a shot, i get to that end line. He crosses well with his left foot, which he'd worked on throughout his entire career. So, you know, maybe there's something there, but...
00:14:09
Speaker
you brought up, you know, why maybe there is a lot of, um, not anger, but there's a lot of frustration. There you go with Jordan. And that's cause he's always going to be judged by the goals. And although I, I feel like sometimes that's fair. It's, it's, it's, it's in some ways, unfair to a certain extent, that he does other stuff. It is fair because he has this,
00:14:34
Speaker
category of you are the all-time leading scorer of the franchise. You're supposed to be that DP guy that, although I hate using that term, you know, people have certain truth, you know, feelings to it, where it's like, you know, you're supposed to be doing a B, and C because you have that sort of tag on you. so So overall, it is about trying to figure out how you're going to be able to get more goals. Cause even against LAFC,
00:15:02
Speaker
there were really, you know, some moments in the second half, but when I, when when I was here in, b Brian's Mets are talking post game. He really made it sound like they were a lot better in, in that second half. And I thought they were better in possession. I thought they were a little bit more purposeful, but when I look back and I've seen this game three times already, there was really just two more chances that were really problematic in that second half. Um, that, that post, the one that you mentioned with Albert and, you know, ah Jordan does a good job of taking that shot before Albert gets it, but it's a low percentage shot to be honest. It's a, it is a low percentage shot.
00:15:38
Speaker
And what I give him credit for is that he was able to force... Take Sure. great he He took it and he forced a a tough save. i was I mean, I would actually say that if the Sounders had scored on that, Hassel would have been very frustrated with the rebound that he leaves because he he spills the rebound right into Rusnak's path. But anyway, go ahead.
00:15:58
Speaker
No. So, ah you know, bottom line, you know, Ari and I did a thing where we like graded that that group. And, you know, I give him a C minus. and and And I say that simply because I'm not just looking at the goals. I'm looking at other things that they've been able to do. There's also CCC play where Daniel was ah also able to score. I think it was as asked two goals. So, you know, they've been able to do some things, but you need more out of that position. Absolutely. And so moving forward, that's kind of.
00:16:28
Speaker
one of those areas where in this two months, Craig Weibel has to be pondering and and Brian has to be, you know, in front of his whiteboard trying to figure out how he's going to approach this because if you could start the next part of the season and that game in Portland with Jordan up top, or, or if that's the way you want to play it, but you're going to have have a real idea on how you're going to get more of that position.
00:16:59
Speaker
And then trying to figure out how you can, add on or, or quickly adapt anything that you end up getting in the off season or something to the, you know, in the, in the summer winter.
Pedro de la Vega's Impact and Recovery
00:17:13
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. I, agree I agree. think that there are definite questions around the number nine spot.
00:17:18
Speaker
And, you know, one of the other things that I've seen, the Sounders have not talked about this too much, but I've, you know ah Some of our our listeners and and readers have pointed out that the biggest difference between the way that the Sounders were breaking down teams last year and the way that they have not been as effective a this year is they had more players who were able to beat their man off the dribble last year.
00:17:38
Speaker
And you know that was Georgie. That was Ryan Kent. That was, to some degree, Paul Rothrock. But a lot of it was Pedro. Yep. And Pedro has been a pretty big absence. He's also, you know, we talked about this a lot. He's the one guy on this roster who was capable of taking over a game when he was at his best.
00:17:59
Speaker
He is a game changing player. Now, the real question, I think, in the second half, and this may actually tell us a lot about what the ceiling is for this team, is what version of Pedro de la Vega do we get back?
00:18:13
Speaker
You know, Brian has said that they're hoping to get him back into full training sometime around the end of the break. What have you learned about where Pedro is physically and what to expect from him in the second half?
00:18:26
Speaker
Yeah, so this is what I know so far. Of course, just like every other player and as part of the CBA and all that, he has 18 days off. However, he has been given a pretty stringent agenda to make sure that he continues his rehab and he's doing things to keep his body in top form because the plan is to...
00:18:53
Speaker
vamp up his ramp up his training patterns and and um timings and and frequency so that once the the the break is over, that week before the Timbers, he's practicing with the team at some capacity. That does not mean that he's going to be full in training. Right. That doesn't mean that he's even going to be partial. He could just be like warming up with the team, doing some of those early exercises. Maybe he does rondos or or whatever. But then once they get into like scrimmages or more of contact type of drills, then he'd be pulled out.
00:19:32
Speaker
They're going to be careful. And and ah I understand, and I've said this before, that the bone injuries, as soon as you're ready to go, you're ready to go. But you also have to slowly... there's a whole cardio element. there's Exactly. There's a whole, but I mean, he, the reality is that he's not been training at a, at a, at the same level as everyone else has for the last six months.
00:19:55
Speaker
So he's going to have to play some ketchup. Exactly. So he definitely won't be ready for that Portland game, but I think that we'll definitely see him throughout that week come on and off as partial part of training. So,
00:20:09
Speaker
he, when I've talked to him, you know, in the locker room and things like that, he sounds very optimistic that he's going to be able to be ready to go, but he understands that everyone is so expected him to be where he left off before the injury. And he knows that there's not going to be a lot of patience when he comes to that, right?
00:20:35
Speaker
You showed us this. Now you have to be that. And, He's such an interesting guy because he's just so smart and and intelligent when he comes to understanding people's ideas. And of the i'm not saying he is worried about what everyone is saying, but he he gets it. yeah And so he wants to be the best version of Pedro that he can be. And so with all that said, I think that he himself is not going to rush himself until he's ready to be out there at the best of his capability. Not saying he's going to be 100% right off the bat, because I think he's going to take him some time. He could be at 80, 75. But when he when he's out there is when he feels like he could be a difference maker. But to your point, and I went way too long on this, I do think that Pedro la Vega is the one X factor, the one game changer that this roster has. And he could absolutely uplift your potential and your ceiling.
00:21:34
Speaker
So we'll see what happens. Well, why don't we take a break? But I want to tease some folks, I think, because this is a nice transition into what the Sounders might actually planning be planning on doing in
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Future Moves and Transfer Window Strategies
00:23:53
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All right, so like I promised, we wanted to talk a little bit about the summer transfer window. You've been able to glean some ideas about what the Sounders have in mind.
00:24:01
Speaker
But I think, you know, one of the things I want to set as a level setter is, you know, the Sounders made a bunch of moves this last offseason. They transferred Obed Vargas. They transferred Danny Leyva.
00:24:15
Speaker
They traded, quote-unquote, Georgie Minungu, and they traded Reed Bigger Whitey. All four of those players are having pretty good years. Obed, not much you could do about it.
00:24:27
Speaker
You can maybe argue Snyder has essentially replaced him, though. Maybe a wash. Petkovich has come in, you know, whatever. Petkovich was supposed to help with that. He got hurt. Not much you can do about that one.
00:24:38
Speaker
But Georgie and Danny, I think Danny, ah another one who you could say is, you know, he was kind of the rolet peckovvich was the replacement for Danny. i think you can maybe argue Danny wouldn't have much of a bigger role than, you know, he had last year.
00:24:52
Speaker
But with Georgie and Reed Baker Whiting, I think are two players who provided something that the Sounders do sometimes miss this year. You know, for a Reed, it was a offensive option to play in ah instead of New Who.
00:25:06
Speaker
And for Georgie, it was a dynamic attacking player who was able to beat guys off the dribble. And both of them have looked really good for their new teams. Georgie in particular is you know, basically a starter for the Rapids and and he's doing everything you would have expected him to do given more minutes.
00:25:23
Speaker
And to me, so what you're, that doesn't mean it was a bad move to get rid of them, but what it does do, I think, is it sets the level you have to clear for in order to this to have been those to have been good moves.
00:25:34
Speaker
Because if all you were doing was just getting money, well, the money that you're getting is only as good as what you put it to use for. And it can't just be re-signing a bunch of guys. No, totally. and And look, as well as Danny Leyva is doing in the Coxer, and I think that he has grown into you know the player that i think he's always saw himself as. And he look, he's had a phenomenal year with the Coxer. He's been talked about.
00:25:59
Speaker
in just about every single of the sports shows that that i that I watch. that There was ah an article about the amount of the amount of of room he covers, the amount of space which that he covers, which is crazy. Yeah, right? Think of the way the discourse was around him here. Yeah, and look, Liga MX is slower.
00:26:20
Speaker
and It's a little bit more of a possession-based league in general. But look, credit to to that kid and being able to take that that opportunity and going as far as he has. But just like you said...
00:26:33
Speaker
The Sounders, I don't know, it seems like it's part of their thing, just that it as it is when it comes to goalkeepers, midfielders yeah is something that they can just get.
00:26:43
Speaker
and They can turn out midfielders. Totally. So ah Snyder has been great. You had Christian Roldan, which was always going to be your pillar, your anchor. And, you know you know, we'll see what happens with Peter Kingston. And and and and the way that... I failed to mention Hassani Dotson as well. Hassani Dotson and Hassani is one that maybe hasn't quite pan out the way you wanted it, but he's still there. He's still a contributor. mean, thought he was fine against LAFC fine against, like, I don't think he was the problem against the galaxy or LAFC. No, no. And I think that's a good point. Cause look,
00:27:18
Speaker
For anyone out there, the the the the Hassani Dotson starting over Snyder Burnell, and I shouldn't be necessarily saying anything that people don't know, but maybe if you don't know,
00:27:30
Speaker
it's clear that it was a defensive move. And the whole the whole point of it was, let's not allow Sonny, Son Hongman, to drag out our center back. So once Sonny drops to a certain area of the field, he needs to get picked up by Hassani Dotson. And I thought that they did that well. Look, that first half, they...
00:27:50
Speaker
LAFC had one real chance. Everything else was mid-range shots. And I think a lot of it was because they did a great job collectively. And Hassani was part of that. He also sets up that opportunity for Jordan Morris that he can't oh yeah yeah right he can really get there. He doesn't quite chip the goalkeeper, but that's a good ball. Good weight on it. Good positioning. So he that center midfield is fine. But to your point, and the the way we wanted to start this second season,
00:28:17
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segment of the show was you do need to bring in a couple of players that give you more attacking options and and not even that, but although Pedro could be the guy that gives you that hard to defend, one V one specialist, that's going to collapse a defense to that side.
00:28:42
Speaker
Georgie Minungu was another weapon and and was a guy that you could bring off the bench or you could start and he could wear down the defense. So you might need to go out there and get someone like that. Now, the Reed Baker-Whiton move, I mean, we all saw it coming because he wasn't getting enough minutes. and And he's been really good for Nashville.
00:29:02
Speaker
But ah maybe although I'm not concerned about it, I think that the way this team operates – he's maybe the one that you're not missing as much because you do got Paul Arriola that could essentially play that role. You have Paul Rothrock who could essentially play that role. So you got a little bit of cover, but isn't the attacking end where this team is falling short?
00:29:23
Speaker
And although we love, or I do, I love the pocket winger and the possibility of the dual tens and all this wonderfulness when it comes to just cerebral cerebral players.
00:29:35
Speaker
Look, man, speed, you can't teach speed. So you might need to go ahead and bring in a guy that's going to have some of those qualities to clear that bar that you mentioned. Yeah, and I and i think one of the things I've repeated ah a lot is that it's not...
00:29:48
Speaker
that the Sounders have a very obvious hole in the starting lineup. I just think they have, there are tools that they're missing from the toolbox that they could use to change games.
00:29:59
Speaker
And that it, that's the kind of player you you don't need someone that's going to come in and be the obvious starter at the number nine, but you do need someone that's going to push the players that are there and someone that can change the speed of the game. And I think that's one of the things that,
00:30:14
Speaker
I'm a little frustrated with the number nine situation is that I don't know that there's like all three of those players can do a job. And I, and I, we've talked about this a lot. I think at his best, Jordan Morris is the best blend of all the talents.
00:30:29
Speaker
But they don't really have anyone that is going to just change the way a team has to defend either. And, you know, and that maybe just like ah a fat, you know, like a speedster or someone who's really a real physical piece, although Asazi has been pretty physical.
00:30:44
Speaker
I just think that the Sounders could use some more options in the attack, especially. And don't know, what do you do? How likely do you think it is? Like, I don't know. In the past, we've been told different things as to like how likely they are to sign. But it feels like maybe they're understanding that they need to really make a signing this summer.
00:31:05
Speaker
Yeah. There's a couple of things here. First of all, to answer your question right off the bat. Right now, the sense I'm getting is that there is a 70-30, 70% possibility that at least two guys are added to this team in the summer.
00:31:23
Speaker
Okay. 80, that at least one guy will be added to this roster. Okay. But things can not go the Sounders way, right? They are opening the book, though. They they are obviously, they don't have the, it doesn't seem, and I don't think this should be suppressed to anyone, there isn't an infinite budget for like a transfer fee or anything like that. yeah But they are willing to put some money. There's some allocation money as well that they could use to
00:31:55
Speaker
ah advocate for that transfer fee, visit lower fee. So they are opening the entire book. They're looking within MLS. They're looking in Scandinavia. They're looking in in many places ah for a couple of players. Now, the the best way that you can add another piece to this roster is the U22 initiative because it hits the cap at 150,000 this year.
00:32:22
Speaker
And it gives you the possibility of getting a guy that has a lot of potential. The downside on that is that you twenty two players usually don't hit the floor running immediately MLS. So if the ultimate goal is how can we make this team better, that currently has such a high floor that without a doubt is a top five team in the Western conference.
00:32:47
Speaker
How do you get it beyond that? Cause that's not the objective. The objective is not being top five. The objective is making a run in the Western conference, being a top three team. If not, you know, of course the shield, whatever biggest objective you have in mind, that's what you want to have. And then essentially the the real objective is just making a run in the playoffs, possibly getting to the Western Conference final. So how does the front office do that? And I do feel like there is pressure on the ownership because they see a really good team. They see a really good start. There's a window, Jeremiah, there's a window and you need to use that window. And I put it on the front office to be able to say, okay, Craig, Here is what you have available so you get me that guy. Because I'll tell you right now, um the scouting team is doing everything that they can. And look, I made calls all morning today and afternoon yesterday. And the hunters are looking.
00:33:43
Speaker
and They're looking in all the right places. And there's some interesting guys, some that I don't think that they have the budget for, some that I think could fit. In MLS, I think that there's also some potential um interesting ones. You know which one I was... um I'm going to give you guys this one because it's not going to happen. One that i that that I was curious about is that the Sounders have multiple times looked into Duncan McGuire from Orlando, obviously. Yeah, there was at one point, they were close to making a trade for Jackson Reagan before Jackson Reagan re re-signed.
00:34:14
Speaker
That would have been, in hindsight, maybe not the best move for the Sounders, but Jackson's future was a little bit in in limbo, but that's an interesting one that that's come up again. Yeah. So that that's one that I had in in mind and it made sense, although he hasn't been Duncan McGuire of a few years ago that was on his way to Europe. It would still be, I think it would have been interesting. However, it sounds like but it's not going to happen. Orlando it seems to want to, even although they're going to Griezmann, there is a lot of going on in Orlando right now. lot of changes up there too. So it sounds like that's not going to happen. But that's the sort of player that within MLS, I'm hoping that the Sounders are looking at. Like, i I'm not trying to get Salowy or, you know, like an older, you know. More sort retreading. Exactly. you You want somebody that's going to be exciting and and that it's going to perform. If you're getting in a guy from MLS, you need a proven guy.
00:35:11
Speaker
You need a guy that has... a couple of seasons with double digit goals or a really good start to the season. And the Suns are good at finding those situations where there's an overload of players or there's somebody that's on a bad contract that maybe that team is willing to take half. So they are looking around and there are some interesting ones that I'm not going to give out. ah um I'm guessing...
00:35:36
Speaker
I'll get beat to the scoops. But but but but if they can make something happen, it'd be very interesting. But all in all, just to tell people that there is a big effort already of scouting and the responsibility falls on the front office, the owner, Adrian Hanauer.
00:35:53
Speaker
How much does he give Craig? And Craig going out there and making those deals happen. But there is an effort out there already. Now, just to finish... There's a wide range of of positions that they're looking at, right? It's not just the striker, although that is clearly ah a position of need. There's a swinger.
00:36:09
Speaker
there's ah They always you want to keep the U22 on the attacking end, but maybe a left back that has some some push on that side. So, that you know, they are open to a lot of positions, but the U22 is somewhere where they're hoping to capitalize in the summer.
00:36:24
Speaker
Well, that's all, i mean, that seems like a a positive thing. thing and hopefully they can actually get a deal done it does seem like it falls a little bit it's a little on the nose to hear that they are ah pursuing guys that might be a little out of their price ranges that seems to be sort of like their sweet spot they keep thinking like hey if we can get this guy at the right price it would be great and it's like all right but the he's not going to come for that place uh which is the the situation they found themselves in especially last year where they Yeah, but but and let's nip two things in the butt. yeah let lets Let's go ahead and do that right now.
00:36:57
Speaker
There's no DP spot open. They're not going to buy out a DP. No. They are not going to ship out a DP either, guys. I've heard that. Well, just ship Albert. It's not going to happen.
00:37:07
Speaker
So let's just be realistic. you You come to what we learned this week. You come to Sunder Our Heart. When you want the real information, now you want to hear some tabloid stuff. You know where to go look for it because we're not going to do it But that's the reality. The second thing that I want to nip in the butt because I can hear it already because I've seen it in mentions already.
00:37:31
Speaker
I love Georgie Minungu, and I think that he's a player that... It was phenomenal that he got this opportunity in Colorado. But would this team have two more wins or five more goals with Georgie here?
00:37:46
Speaker
No, guys. So, again, look, I love Georgie. Phenomenal guy, great talent. I'm happy that he's getting an opportunity. But it was going to be tough for him to get any more minutes here. And even if he did...
00:37:58
Speaker
There is no way that I can sit here and tell you, honestly tell you that he would be this huge difference maker. He'd be great to to you know close out certain games. He could have definitely been used in some of these more difficult games when you've got deeper blocks and he could you know give you some of that Georgie magic. But he's in a place where he is maximizing his time and maximizing his talent, and that should make people happy as it is. And I will say just to kind of level set a little bit, he's got two assists in 750 minutes.
00:38:31
Speaker
He's actually averaging fewer assists per 90 with Colorado than he did with the Sounders. He hasn't scored a goal yet. He's an exciting. He scored an open cup. He did score in the open cup. but i'm I'm just talking about MLS play, but you're right. He did score in the open cup. And I think, I think what happens a lot of times though, is people see a couple of highlights and they go, oh my God, that guy is having an amazing season. I can't believe we let him go.
00:38:55
Speaker
and they don't really have the full picture of what he looks like on a game in game out basis. I mean, the reality is he's got, he's got one goal and two assists in roughly a thousand minutes this year or not a thousand, ah but 750 minutes this year.
00:39:12
Speaker
So it's like, look, I mean, he's, he's having a nice season, but he, he's playing a lot more. That's one thing. That's for sure. He's getting a much bigger opportunity at Colorado than he was probably going to get here. So that's good for him.
00:39:24
Speaker
I don't begrudge him at all. ah But that skill set, like I said, would be nice to be able to bring back. And it'll be interesting to see what the Sounders are able to do in terms of bringing that in that spot.
00:39:37
Speaker
Shifting gears a little bit, and this is probably going to be the focus, really, of what we are talking about for the next couple months, because this is the thing that's going to be going on, is the World Cup.
00:39:47
Speaker
We didn't talk about this really at all on Nosarrietas, at least, that Christian Rondon was officially named to the U.S. s national team roster. This is the second time that he's made it.
00:39:58
Speaker
He's the first Sounders player to have made two World Cup rosters while he was with the Sounders. That's a pretty cool accomplishment. There's obviously a lot of Sounders who have made the World Cup.
00:40:11
Speaker
only He's the only one, though, that was on the on the Sounders both times that he did it. And he is the only MLS player who was on both this year's roster and the previous U.S. national team roster.
00:40:24
Speaker
That's a pretty cool accomplishment. Yes, it is. He's only one of 10 players in U.S. national team history to make two different World Cup rosters while playing in MLS. Wow. Yeah. And like DeAndre Yedlin is one of them.
00:40:41
Speaker
Clint Dempsey is one of them. There are, you know, I could kind of go through the whole list, but I'm not going to bore you with that. But there are two players who did it three times. It was Eddie Pope and Landon Donovan. But these are the kind of, i mean, these are all legend kind of national team players.
00:40:56
Speaker
and that he did it twice with well in MLS is puts him in sort rarefied air. I think that's really cool. And what's really exciting about this is that the way the roster lines up, he's probably going to have a pretty significant role to play. Unlike last time where he didn't play at all.
00:41:11
Speaker
Totally. dig This is the biggest chance he's going to have to really put his mark on this team when it comes to a big tournament, the biggest tournament, really, because I think that he's done well in Gold Cup before. He's done well in friendlies. Look, I think that he earns this spot in so many ways.
00:41:36
Speaker
Number one, he's one of the best players in that position the league that he plays in, no doubt, over the last couple of seasons. I would say last year he was, if not the arguably the best six, right next to working right next to Obed Vargas, allowing him to have all the freedom. He looked he never looked out of place and always looked competitive against the best of the best in PSG, Atletico Madrid, and Botafogo in the Club World Cup.
00:42:05
Speaker
But mainly, mainly, he earned his spot in this World Cup in the camps he had with Pochettino. i In the games. he this is the in In games. he This is by far the best that he's ever looked in a national team jersey has been over the last, whatever, six months since, or the last year, I guess, since the club world, when he first got his, i guess, no, six months, since he got his call from the League's Cup after the League's Cup.
00:42:32
Speaker
He has every single time that he's been in the national team, he has looked like he belongs. And I think that's the biggest difference between the version, the, this run with the national team and the previous run with the national team where he had much more up and down performances. i think that, you know, a lot of people, the reason people were sort of like down on his call-ups is I don't think it's as simple as, well, he plays an MLS or he plays for the Sounders.
00:42:56
Speaker
It's, when you are coming from MLS, you, they really want you to perform when you're with the national team. And if you are, no matter what you're doing at MLS, if you come into the national team and you don't look like you belong, people are done with you. And that's the thing I think, i think he's won over a lot of the haters, a lot of the doubters, because when he's been in the national team, you know, the Australia game is the best example. He had two assists in that game, both really nice assists.
00:43:22
Speaker
And the fact that he's going to be, you know, the idea that he might start, against Australia in Seattle. Ooh, ooh, that's a sexy thought.
00:43:35
Speaker
That October camp was the the best that I've seen him, the most comfortable, the most influential. So ah you could argue that that that October camp in comparison to what Aiden Morris and even Tanner Tessman did in November I think he outperformed those guys to a certain degree. I think that think that's how why he's here. I think the reason he's here is because of the work that he did at the national team compared to the work that those guys did at the national team.
00:44:05
Speaker
And I don't know that there's – and I don't know that a reasonable person can really disagree. I mean, I know there are folks that are saying like, well, Aiden Morris is doing it in the championship and Tanner Tessman is doing it France or whatever.
00:44:19
Speaker
I think that most people recognize that when it came head-to-head, Christian was the better player, at least with the Nationals. So it's no longer vibes. It's no longer a locker room guy. He has the responsibility, and this could be a double-edged weapon because now it is about you performing, right? Christian Roldan has expectations. If you're going to be the guy, because look, when you look at this roster, you look at center midfield, and you look at the likelihood that this U.S. National team is going to play with double pivots, someone's going to be next to Tyler Adams, where that could change, right? It could be, I doubt it, you know, but it could be McKinney there because ah they like McKinney higher up the field, but it could be a guy like Berhalter who plays like that for Vancouver. You could drop Tillman down, whatever. But when he comes to having another six and a guy that's going to be more poised to defend,
00:45:08
Speaker
The only other holding mid that you have is Christian Roldan. Everybody else you could not play the six where Christian Roldan can. So he's the likelihood of either replacing a guy like Tyler Adams yeah when you need to rotate, change,
00:45:23
Speaker
or play alongside of him when you got to play a little bit more defensive. Now, when I look at the group stage and I see the teams ahead, um and maybe against Paraguay, but not really. You know, Morocco could be one that you might need to. But I think in in in most of those games, you're going to be playing on the front foot and against deeper blocks. So maybe you don't really need Christian right there. It could be more of an attacking pivot right next to Tyler Adams. Yeah, Turkey. jes I was like... and i was like oh My bad, my bad, my bad. Hey, we're going to give you a... i They have... Whatever, they you have similar... Yeah, no, my bad. That was terrible. But yes, Turkey, maybe Turkey, right? Turkey's a good team. but But we'll see. I think for the most part, you might need to play against teams that are deeper blocks that you got to break down. But regardless of, I think that there's plenty of...
00:46:13
Speaker
scenarios where Christian Rodan is going to get some real time. And that's when all these haters, all these trolls, all of these people, they're going to jump at the moment that you have a bad turnover or you have a bad game. But I do want to say something, and I want to say it to you, troll, you influencer and wannabe analyst that has this idea that if the UNSF national team gets grouped, it's because of Christian Rodan.
00:46:40
Speaker
Take that shit somewhere else, man, because you are full of it. You are full of it. If this team, if this youth national team gets grouped at home in probably the biggest World Cup that this nation's ever had and in the soccer aspect, it will be because your main guys are not performing. If Pulisic decides to be the Pulisic of late, where you don't know what you're getting out of him and he has no attitude, he's not good on the ball. And a guy like Gio Reyna that barely plays in the club level and all you see is talent and he gets slowed down by the huge ice block he has on his chest. That's why you're going to lose this World Cup. It's not because of the whole, you know, your team is only as good as your weakest link. Bullshit. No, it's a tournament like this. You got your top players have to perform. Exactly. if Your top guys need to perform. If Valorium Baligan is scoring, if Christian Pulisic is scoring, if Weston McKinney is doing his thing, you know, look, there's a lot of guys on this, on this roster who I put as way more important than Christian Roldan.
00:47:44
Speaker
I think Christian Roldan has a role to play, but let's be real. He's like the 20th most important player on this roster. And there are a lot of, there's a plenty of of, you know, if, if Christian Roldan is making or breaking your tournament, you've already like, that's already a problem.
00:48:00
Speaker
it should not get to that now he don't get me wrong there's a there's a world where that he has to perform he has to do well but like the the ceiling of this team is not defined no not at all so i just wanted to get it out there because i hear that that shit a lot and and it doesn't sit well with me uh so so we'll see now i'm not i'm not saying that i don't love uh that I don't hate the way that maybe Potch did it. I thought that like, look to me, what did you, did you think of the whole thing where he didn't, where he emailed everyone?
00:48:33
Speaker
Oh, see, I don't mind that. i mean, I mean, to me, would I, if I was a coach, would I be way more personable and and make a call? Absolutely. but I understand in talking to players in my own circles, nobody wants to get that call.
00:48:47
Speaker
and And whether it's call, ah you know, fax, beeper, email, nobody wants to get that call. So it doesn't really matter how you get it. Maybe if you're a player, I understand this. And I say this about everything. I hate it when people coach or or handle their business. Anytime you got to deal with other people ah in a cookie cookie sheet, right? you You try to treat everybody the exact same. I think a guy like Diego Luna deserves a call.
00:49:18
Speaker
I think that, you know, the guys... then as zovier goes Exactly. Totally, right? Who had not been in the Not been in the team at all. But if there was a guy that maybe it was in the bubble, that you had been pumping up, that you... You know, Diego Luna got a lot of praise from Pochettino. He was in... the Yeah, he was in ads. He was... I mean, he became kind of the poster child of this team in a lot of ways.
00:49:39
Speaker
And he seemingly at Pochettino's insist like he was raising him up to that level. And You know, whatever. I don't think Diogo Luna makes or breaks this team.
00:49:51
Speaker
But I think I'm with you as far as the look, if it was me, i would I would probably want to call the guys. But I don't I don't think he I think he's right that it is about you, the coach.
00:50:06
Speaker
Like that's to make me feel better about cutting you. I don't think it makes you necessarily feel any better. And I think that's fair. Right. And that said, could he have said something to Diego Luna? Yeah. Yeah. I don't like the cookie cutter, ah you know, element to it. gen and the same but but But at the same time, then that could also be considered, you know, everybody's the same, everybody's going to get the bad news, whatever. But my my my biggest issue is more with the roster complexion. I think...
00:50:34
Speaker
i'm already upset ah i'm I'm already more concerned about the center backs in this team than I am about the midfielders. And that's probably going to be a popular take. But look, Miles Robinson's been... He has not been good. i don't think he's ever been the same since he left Atlanta.
00:50:48
Speaker
Atlanta. I don't know how he gets into this roster. And Team Ream? Team Ream has been bad. Bad. So... You know, I think it's too. And it's even beyond the specific players just to I feel like it was. i mean, there's five natural center backs. Yep. And then there's like three more guys that you can play as a center back.
00:51:10
Speaker
That's too many center backs. You don't need that many center backs. They have natural backups for every position on defense. You don't need that. And if you go three-man back line, Freeman can play center back. Joe Scali can play center back. So there's ways to come around that. So why not take away one of those center backs, call him Miles Robinson or call him Tim Ream, and maybe bring in Aiden Morris or maybe bring in Tanner Tessman just because you might need that. Right. Or Diego Luna. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I mean, again, I'm more worried about like the defensive part of it, because look, if this, if, if you as a national team is going to get far after the group stage is not going to be on the front foot, you're going to have to understand your limitations. So you've got to play good defensively. You got to have some greedy guys that are going to be out there disturbing and and and gaining possession and all this stuff. So to me, it would have made sense to just bring one more guy, whether it's Aiden or Aiden Morris or whether it was Tenor Tesman and take away one of the guys. Now, I don't know if Pachis is about playing Gio Reyna there or Tillman there. Look, you could even do...
00:52:22
Speaker
um Chris Richards there, but Chris Richards, your best center back. So, you know, how do you deal with it? So I don't know. I just felt like in the way he kind of put it together, he could have done a little bit better, yeah but I'm all in this show. It's about Christian Roldan, how proud we are of him, how he fucking earned it yeah and how we hope that he kills it.
00:52:43
Speaker
He's a great, you know, he's a great story. he There is not anyone who deserves it more for the work that he's put for the attitude that he's taken. And I could not possibly be happier for him.
00:52:55
Speaker
You know, if you had told me that there was one guy from the Sounders ah from the last world yeah of all the Sounders who were involved in the national team after after the last World Cup, which one i would have expected to be here. Christian was not the one I would have expected to be here.
00:53:11
Speaker
But look, here we are. And he he willed himself back into this thing. I think it's an awesome story. I love him. I'm with you. I do think there's a risk associated. You know, I've heard it kind of posited that it's like, what happens if Tyler Adams goes down with an injury early and then Christian rolled on, picks up yellow cards in the first two games.
00:53:28
Speaker
Now you're talking about playing... Weston McKinney at the six. I don't, I mean, I don't even know what that that seems like a very irresponsible way to build the roster. And i so I hope that's not what it comes to.
00:53:42
Speaker
but But whatever. I am thrilled for Christian. I mean, it's I am starting to get a little bit of World Cup fever. We're seeing the signs up everywhere. You know, we are right next to Lumen Field and we can see all the the fencing. We saw today that the Lumen sign has finally been covered up. ah Just like literally like black.
00:54:03
Speaker
heart over it. Nothing too fancy. But I do think that once it's here, it will feel different. And I've heard this, you know, we don't have to spend too much time on this, but, you know, I've spent a lot of time over the last few months telling people how it just does not feel like the World Cup is coming.
00:54:22
Speaker
that you know There's a lot of negativity around it, and we can we don't need to get into why. But I think everyone understands what's going on with the negativity around it. And it's not that it's so different from previous world cups i think what we had in my mind at least i had worked up this idea that it's like from a year out it's gonna constant pause you know people are gonna be so excited for this thing and it's just gonna hit like and i and in fact it's just kind of more like a regular world cup where it's like you you find all the flaws in it until it shows up and then it's in your backyard and you're like oh it's like
00:54:56
Speaker
Yeah. And, ah you know, like, as you mentioned, the closer he gets, the the more he would feel like the the World Cup is here. i love the the fan settings. i love what they're doing in Westlake Center. i love the barge idea. I think that's awesome.
00:55:12
Speaker
And all of these things are going to be this great core memories for soccer players to come that the kids, I mean, I'm excited to take my daughter. She's hyped about it. So you don't have to necessarily go spend a gajillion dollars to go watch a game. Maybe you're just in the city and you're using that. yeah yeah and the energy You know, I remember that the first time that I was in the world cup and the first, I mean, I watched the world cup and, and I got to paint my country's flag in my face and was super disappointed in,
00:55:41
Speaker
uh france 98 but uh you know it's that that's kind of all those things that that that you can really fall back into the soccer community that that i love and that i i'm so proud to be a part of so i'm excited for everyone that that it that it's here that it's going to happen that you get to have one of your own be part of it uh so yeah man it's it's starting to to really get to me as well i'll tell you that uh where's the closest that columbia is playing
00:56:09
Speaker
uh the closest that they're playing i believe is uh la oh yeah let me just explain in the line i uh maybe maybe maybe not i'm tripping no i i honestly i have not even looked because you knew there was that no the the prices were so so heavy because i wanted to go to the well my my son asked me if he'd go to the portugal colombia game And I said, yeah, let's make it happen because we were in Charlotte together for the semifinal of the Copa America. And it was a great trip. And I was like, I opened it up and I was like, yep, we're not going. We're we're not going. That is Yeah, that is, it was a mortgage payment. It was $1,700. There you go. A ticket. A ticket. Yeah. yeah But I do know this, that ah if they make the first of group, and this is how long I haven't looked at it, but if they're first of the group, there is a chance and they go to the round 16, they would be in Vancouver. and But I don't know how big of a long shot that is because Portugal is in our group. Although Portugal, you know depending on you know how how they start off this group stage, they you know they could be up top.
00:57:22
Speaker
But I'm not as scared as you know in the past. I am as Portugal teams. And I'm talking as a Colombian, obviously, yeah with a passport in my hand. yeah But Colombia hasn't been great either. They've had some ups and downs. They've had they've moved a lot of players. You guys got to see the wonderful James Rodriguez here. So hopefully he's not... He's in better shape than he was in Minnesota. But yeah, so I think that would be the closest one that I remember thinking about it at the time.
00:57:50
Speaker
Well, I bring that up just because we are going to be doing a fair amount of World Cup programming. ah You and I are are trying to line up some interviews with folks that are both in the World Cup or associated with the World Cup and not associated with the World Cup.
00:58:04
Speaker
I think it's going to be a good, it'll still be a fun, I'm actually looking forward to the next few weeks, the next six weeks or so, because I think there's going to be, ah it'll be fun from a journalism perspective for us. I think we're going do some different kinds of stuff.
00:58:18
Speaker
We haven't really had this opportunity to just get away from the Sounders. Really? i mean, this is not even like an off season. This is different than an off season because there's stuff going on. It's just not the same stuff that we're associated, that we're used to.
00:58:31
Speaker
So I'm, I'm really, I'm really looking forward to this, Nico. And hopefully people will, enjoy the the stuff we have coming i i know i have if in case you you missed it on the mailbag joe we are going to be doing at least two live events on june 18th we're going to be at project nine up in maple leaf it's going to be sort of a casual meet and greet type of thing and then on june 19th the day of the u.s australia game we're doing basically a whole day of programming over at fast fashion in soto uh doors are going open at eight
00:59:05
Speaker
We're going to have a pregame. We're going to do a watch party. and then we're going to do a postgame, I think, live show. So if you're interested in doing either one of those things, look for we'll have details coming out soon.
00:59:15
Speaker
But anything else you got to say, in Nico? Yeah, I just remembered that. Yeah. So I was looking over here. The closest club we're playing is Guadalajara. That's Mexico. That's how close. The other one is Miami. okay So, yeah, I would not be going to any of them. I actually thought of them about my my girls family is from Guadalajara, but it's just too expensive to to do any of that. i' Flying of a sudden getting to Guadalajara from ah Seattle is really difficult now.
00:59:41
Speaker
yeah, it's, it's, it's going to be problematic, but, but no, nothing else. ah I think we got everything that we had for you guys. Thanks to everyone for the support. We do have some really good and interesting shows that we might be able to, to, to get over some interesting interviews that I think we're going to be to people's liking. So yeah, would stay tuned, continue to follow, make sure that you get your ah magazine. Yeah, that's right. We have ah four.
01:00:12
Speaker
The Sounder at Heart magazine is yeah on the printing presses now and will hopefully be arriving in people's mailboxes early June. And we're going to have physical copies to sell throughout the tournament. So if you haven't gotten one yet and you want to get one, i think you're going to really like it, but you'll be able to find lots of ways to get them.
01:00:32
Speaker
yeah And I should be at one of those parties, at least one of them. I got some coverage with Fox Seattle, but I will definitely be at least part of the Project 9. Actually, I'm we're drinking right now drinking a Project 9 beer. It's super tasty. Exactly. That's right. all right.
01:00:49
Speaker
All right. Well, let's get out of here. I am Jeremiah Oshian signing off for Nico Moreno. This is No Sarietes, part of the Sounder Harker Podcast Network, and we'll catch you next time
01:01:26
Speaker
Let's go at Sounders.