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Episode 3 Beauty
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We talking about all things beautyyyy and american standards, stereotypes, male/female gazeeeeee. Join usss pookie (:
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Introduction to Episode on Beauty
00:00:07
Speaker
you know what yeah okay guys welcome back to our channel you know okay so today episode three we're gonna be talking about beauty yes a little bit of everything a little bit of everything and if y'all just little disclaimer if y'all hear some crimson background or any
00:00:32
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but We're having some chips and queso. got some drinks. You know, get us up the atmosphere. Yes.
Subjectivity of Beauty
00:00:41
Speaker
So I really wanted to talk about this because I feel like, you know, as women, this is really important for us, but also just like in general.
00:00:48
Speaker
um So like, you know, we kind of talked about a little bit some things previously, like in other episodes, but like, what is beauty, you know? We saw such a funny tweet.
00:01:00
Speaker
Well, it was funny to me. I don't know if other people would view it as funny, but it was a funny tweet and it sparked my interest. So that's why I was like, oh, we should talk about this today So it was, um you know, everybody has like different tastes, right? They're like, oh, okay, like you know.
00:01:16
Speaker
But the saying the popular saying, it's like, beauty's in the eye, the beholder. yeah And, you know, I didn't understand that until I got older, probably until I got to college. I really understood because I was like, oh, like, no you know but I'm like no like no yeah I get it I didn't understand that until like two like a few years ago and that's whenever one of my friends like oh this person I was like you know I'm never go to tell you again yeah that was the first time I ever got like shamed
00:01:48
Speaker
that So like
Celebrity Influence on Beauty Standards
00:01:50
Speaker
girl, get it together. That's what I felt, yeah. So basically the tweet we're referencing is this girl. Now I have a lot to say about this in general. There's a lot of things that go into this, but she she mentioned, so she, okay, first of all, if Who was it?
00:02:08
Speaker
Common Klein. Common Klein. Right. know She chose a celebrity, somebody who's like really popular. Now, not necessarily and America, but in their country, they they are.
00:02:19
Speaker
And so if you know the person, it's Inwoo, Cha Inwoo. Even though that's not even his real name, we're not going to get into that. But yeah, so she posted, well, she quoted like over the tweet and was like, oh, you know, every time I see him, it's just like everybody's like goo goo gaga over him. But like, I just personally don't get it So instantly, you know, sent her that tweet. She sends it to me because she knows I'm going to have something to say. Yeah.
00:02:45
Speaker
I wanted to see what she would say. And was like, yeah, you know what? He is handsome. But yeah, go ahead. Go ahead. Sorry. Sorry. No, no, you're fine. You're fine. You're fine. and Because I feel like you agree with the girl though to an extent as well. so And then also I just have to say pinpoint.
Korean Beauty Standards
00:03:00
Speaker
I just have to say that those pictures did not do him justice because there's better ones and then I don't know how they were edited or the lighting or something. just yeah He looks like he was squinting so yeah I'm dead. No, that brings up a good point about like photographers and like them not really knowing people's undertones and seeing what lighting looks good it' like they're making with them. Yeah, so that that could be a possible truth, but I think he's fine no matter what. So yeah and to me, it didn't matter. But the main premise was that some people feel like especially like
00:03:33
Speaker
in korean standards that they have to be like this you know almost like 1000 out of 10 type thing like i've heard so many people say like oh this person is like only like 70 percent in korean standards you know and they're like korean and i'm like are you kidding me like this is like one of this is like one of the finest person i've ever seen like what like what do you mean do you mean and then it's like number one it's like oh okay I'm like how is this number one but this is 70% or this is 50% I think we have switch it just every time they do the like list where it's like from 1 to 100 I'm like how this person make it
00:04:12
Speaker
i'm like how did this
00:04:16
Speaker
You know, for me, me personally. And so that's why like, okay, yeah, beauty is really just like, it's subjective. It's not necessarily like black or white. It's like the gray area. Like, you know, if we, but yeah, for, for cha, you know, yeah.
00:04:31
Speaker
You know, you could like not think he's like all that, but I think he's all that. That doesn't mean that he's not. Yeah, that doesn't mean would be- Good looking. And that doesn't mean that he's like ugly either. It's just like, in my eyes, I think he is. In her eyes, she's like, eh. I'm like, yeah, he's handsome. But I was it's just also my type.
00:04:46
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. We all have different like preferences. And so that's so funny because like, literally in college, I think that's so, so true because my friends and I, we all like, well, like when we think about it, it's just like, oh You like this person? Oh.
00:05:03
Speaker
Oh. major, oh, honey. You know, and we would all we would all do it to each other because it's just like, like I'm not rocking with that, you know? And we all had like different reasons for it. And, you know, it just works. But I think it also really works in at least women friendships because if we all have the same type,
00:05:20
Speaker
we could not be friends it's not gonna good it's not gonna be good it's not gonna be good it's a really bad possibly physical altercation type stuff so it's for the best you know but nah nah this is for the girl that said that because i seen her in the comments later and she was like somebody else posted another photo of him and she was like oh wait this changes everything like yeah Yeah.
00:05:47
Speaker
Like, first of all, i'm looking all sweaty. with like It's just like, you know, to me, I think you can think people are like not attractive, but you don't have to say anything. I feel like she was just like being a pick me about it. Like a lot of people do that. They'll be like, oh, like you purposely chose like somebody who's really popular. You know, a lot of people are like into them. And you just tried to be like,
00:06:08
Speaker
Ooh, look at me like I'm not into them. I'm so different. Like, oh my God. Like, girl. It's just like I, if I was at something like Uncle Tiana, they'll be like, everyone loves me. That's what I'm saying. I was like, oh there's tons of people that I can think of, you know? And I wouldn't. And I'll name drop. She's handsome.
00:06:24
Speaker
I'll name you. I'll name you right now. You know, it's like some people, you know, even like some of their actors and stuff like that. And, you know, some of them you really like.
00:06:35
Speaker
I'm not I'm not into it. I don't I don't find them attractive at all. But you don't see me commenting. Oh, my gosh. I don't get it. They're so freaking ugly. Like, yeah that you know, it's just like people just like.
00:06:49
Speaker
You know, i don't know. I feel like everybody feels like their opinion matters. actually It actually doesn't. It actually doesn't. We could have gone without that. Yeah.
Evolution of American Beauty Standards
00:06:58
Speaker
And that's why everybody was dragging her in the comments.
00:07:02
Speaker
As they should, as they should. And so i just thought that was really funny. But it just led to like, okay, that was like their beauty standards. But like when you think about like American standards, like even just like right now versus like how it was like when we were middle school or like elementary school. But even then it goes like even further, like down to like your ethnicity. Yeah. Because I feel like, you know, it comes with stereotypes. Yeah.
00:07:28
Speaker
Like they think of, you're a black girl, like you got to be this, this and this and da da da da. Like, and that's what would make you beautiful. And like something for like Latino women and like white people. Yeah, you're supposed to be thick. Yeah, they just assume. Have a butt. Yeah, they expect all this extra stuff and they're like, well, that's what makes you beautiful.
00:07:49
Speaker
Which, um. And then if, like, if you ask somebody, like, from another country, be like, oh, yeah, they think they were, like, all Kim Kardashian or something. Yeah, they think everybody looks like that. But it's funny because, like, some people think that when they go over there, too. They think that everybody's to look like how they look like on Just, like, the girl who posted the video. Oh, yes, that girl.
00:08:09
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and but it's just, like, duh. And even then, like, you know, a lot of people get work done and stuff like that. So it's, like... And then plus like over there getting word gun is actually yeah and beauty center. Yeah, they have like the, it's like the capital of like plastic surgery or something.
00:08:26
Speaker
America is not really like that. Do people still have word gun? Yes. But it's not like as common, I guess, for here as it would be there.
00:08:38
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And I think it's more noticeable like when people do have like a BBL or anything. Oh yeah, it looks really bad. Always. I've never seen a good one in person. Because it's like, you know, your thighs are supposed to lead up to it.
00:08:50
Speaker
And yeah, enough they're not getting anything in their thigh. So it just looks like an ant, essentially. Like you're like an ant and then there's your leg and your leg's like super skinny and then you just have this massive and it's like, what is that?
00:09:07
Speaker
Yeah. In what way did that look good to you? Like, like, it just looks, yeah, it looks really bad. No comments, no comments. Don't get a BBL,
Societal Expectations and Body Image
00:09:16
Speaker
guys. Seriously. It's so bad for you. Because most people don't know. You actually have to keep getting it after you get it the first time. Because it will drop and then you have to.
00:09:24
Speaker
Just those RDLs, you guys. Honestly, yeah yeah. Working out and pulling it will help. So I've heard. I don't know that. you know i have genetics, so I didn't have to do anything for mine.
00:09:36
Speaker
but um know and i've noticed I've noticed the difference in doing RDLs because my butt was getting flat and i' was like, oh, no. So I immediately started doing it again. Yes.
00:09:47
Speaker
Wow. Yes, there is a difference and i was like, hey, I feel much fuller than I used to. We love that. We love that. I know people that have also like grown theirs too from nothing. So, hey, do where you can.
00:09:59
Speaker
But yeah, it just, it was kind of interesting. So that's like the beauty standard now ah people expecting. But like, you know, like when we were kids, They used to want everybody to be like super thin. Like if you want a size zero, like what are you doing? Like you're fat. Exactly. Like everybody. Girl, we had to be like razor thin. Yeah, razor thin.
00:10:20
Speaker
I remember I was like in fifth grade at the time. And, you know, we still had to do like physicals and stuff at school. Yeah. Whatever. The pacer test. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that was fun to me. I i enjoyed that because, you know, i was still a kid. I still had energy. Don't ask me to do that now. No.
00:10:35
Speaker
I did Taibo today, and I felt like I got my natural tail whooped. Like, I feel like somebody beat me up, like, bloody pulp or something. I'm like, please, when is this over?
00:10:46
Speaker
It was so intense. But anyway, Taibo. Billy Mays, Taibo. Yeah. I mean, I used to do it, like, a long time ago, but I was like, pssh. it's serious yeah yeah i did the kitboxing one when i was in college yeah it's sounds fun it's intense but it's fun oh yeah I'm gonna be in critical condition tomorrow but anyways that's besides the point so we we did all that um and you know they like weigh us and all that kind of stuff mind you when but we're in fifth grade so it's like whatever they they would announce like you're way in front of everybody I was like
00:11:21
Speaker
Yeah, and so I i remember, i can't remember the exact weight that it was, but I was, you know, weighed, and I was normal. I was actually pretty skinny, actually, for like a long time, and then i started gaining weight when I got to high school, but no So I was pretty bony at the time, but... um One of my friends, she got weighed after me and she weighed like a pound heavier than me.
00:11:48
Speaker
And I remember her like purposely like not eating the rest of the week. Like she just was like eating salad, like trying to because she felt like, oh, I don't want to like, you know, weigh more.
00:12:01
Speaker
and it's like, dude, what? Like we're in fifth grade, you know? Yeah. Yeah. But it's like, that's how, you know, like the standards of that serious. I wasn't worried about that. I didn't care, you know, and nobody was like really pressing me, but I was bony. So it didn't matter. But I was just like, okay.
00:12:18
Speaker
But I just recognized. I remember that moment. I was like, oh, I was like, girl, you really like, you're really trying to lose a pound just so we can weigh the same. Like, that's crazy. Yeah. wow But she didn't. So, but it's just like the standards are like that serious. And they were like people were like, you know, it used to be like not cool.
00:12:37
Speaker
I mean, it's still, I guess, essentially like not cool. People still do body shame people. But like, you know, like everybody could get around ah get away with saying like, oh, you're fat. you know and all this other stuff you know and so it was like a bad thing like if you gained weight or anything yeah so it's just interesting but like some people like in other countries like they still like believe that like they're still like that's like their beauty standard like you have to be like so thin and if you don't like there's something wrong with you which is crazy you know I feel like everybody should be healthy you know and you should be healthy for your height and all that kind of stuff
00:13:16
Speaker
And then also genetics also play a role in it because depending on how your genes are and like your hair well yeah well heritage and also like your family, tree, everything, there's other people who are going to be naturally heavier and like carry weight different than other people. Yeah, 100%. Like percent me...
00:13:33
Speaker
being a certain amount of weight might be different for other people. Yeah, everybody wears different, yeah. they might look leaner than I do, especially if we have, like, the same weight. Exactly. I've been told that, too, and I was like, oh.
00:13:45
Speaker
Yeah, no, that's true. because they're like, you weigh 120, and I was like, actually, I do not. Yeah, no. and I wear this, and they're like, what? Yeah. Everybody wears weight differently, true. Yeah. This is true. Yeah.
00:13:57
Speaker
That makes a big difference. I will agree. Yeah, sorry, you go ahead. No, no, you're fine, you're fine, you're fine. um Yeah, so I just thought that was interesting, you know, about the that whole thing. But, like, just going back to the tweet of just, like, how, you know, that's, like, women's beauty standards. But for men, it's, like, not really like that.
00:14:19
Speaker
They're not expected to be, like, well, at least in America. yeah And then also that has changed. In America, they're not expected to be like thin.
Men's Beauty Standards in America
00:14:29
Speaker
No. It's like...
00:14:30
Speaker
I was like, why aren't you thick? I remember, I think this was, like, in middle school, right? We would, like, go to the mall, you know, and you'd see those Abercrombie models, and it'd just be, like, dudes outside. Like, they're shirtless.
00:14:42
Speaker
They're just standing. Yeah. So, like, that was, like, the whole thing. We used to watch, like, Jersey Shore, like, all this stuff. And everybody was fit, like, because it's, like, you should be able take off your shirt. And, like, I didn't want Pauly D to call me a grenade, so i was like, no.
00:14:56
Speaker
Like, tell me this. but let me just get in the whole time i'm like literally like 12 but it's just like you know it didn't matter so the the standards were crazy but like yeah so like naturally like they were pushing those things on to us and even like we talked about this before too another time how like You know, even in middle school, especially in America, we do, like, athletics and stuff like that during that time. And so they really start pushing the boys a lot harder than the girls, you know, to, like, work out. And they're, like, in the gym. So they're, like, already having six-packs. They're already, like...
00:15:33
Speaker
jacked and stuff like that by like eighth grade so it's like totally normal us they would us run like what a mile and then they're making them run like two miles yeah they were like they were training those boys like for the military or something i don't know what they were doing but yeah so it was like totally normal for us we expect that well not everybody but like i expected that because you know i'm like hey this is what i see but also i think it has to do with like family though too like I mean, like, my dad, he works out. My brothers work out, all that kind of stuff. So I grew around seeing stuff like that. And my uncles work out. Even, like, my dad's grandma used to work out. My grandma, you know? So it's just, like, it makes sense for me to be, like, well, duh. Like, why are you not working out? You know? Like, that's weird to me. It's, like, for my family, was, like, different.
00:16:26
Speaker
Yeah. Like, not everybody does that. Not everybody does that. Because it would be, like, blanky. yeah literally like scrawny i mean hey they would go into like fake there is nobody who is fake and i was like hey that's like that's why we weren't like so focused on sports or anything if somebody tried out sports you would all get injuries and oh yeah that's how it was oh wow considering me you know broken ankle wow okay so we're finding it's hereditary yeah Yeah, because my my cousin, he also has knee problems. You gotta to get surgery like a replacement like you're on 20 something. Oh my god. It was crazy.
00:17:02
Speaker
That's intense. yeah Okay, so that also plays a role then. Yeah. know My parents, my dad grew up playing sports. He was like captain of his track team for like three years. he played basketball. Yeah. My grandpa used to run marathons.
00:17:17
Speaker
Like, yeah. Yeah. I have a lot of athleticism in my family, so it's natural. And I did Taekwondo for like a really long time, almost like 10 years. yeah. yeah yeah So to me, it's just, I see it differently. So I have like different expectations.
00:17:32
Speaker
So when it comes to like a man, you know, like, k lets ya ah wow look hey that man is so fun. But it's just like, he just, I just, I love that.
00:17:47
Speaker
yeah I love that. I love a man looks like this is a lumberjack. Peaches, like, I felt a like. And you know guys, let me just tell you this Laura, okay? So I literally was pushing it on to her. You know, we just explained, we just explained, i did you know, this is the background I come from, so this is what I expect, you know, in a person.
00:18:05
Speaker
um And so I was like, you know, I'm really good at conditioning, apparently. I found that out through her. You've been like, what, three times? Hey girl, I didn't lost him.
00:18:15
Speaker
I didn't lost him. But, you know, i was like kind of pushing her, you know, into like, oh, girl, like, no, I'm telling you, like, this is really good. Like, because it's just like, you know, it's just, I don't know how to explain other than the girls that get it, get it. My girls that don't, don't.
00:18:29
Speaker
And so, you know, eventually it just, I just kept doing it until one day I pushed like the perfect button and I sent her this thing that I saw off of Pinterest. And everything changed.
00:18:40
Speaker
Remember when I said in episode one how she pushed me down the stairs and she burned the bridge. You know, I could no longer, you know be into this person anymore because she just streamlined it. She did not give me an opportunity pulled out to anymore. I was like, oh, yeah, like he's like my wrecker. And then I like sent her that picture and she was like, oh, that's mine. I don't even remember you saying he was your wrecker. I definitely said it. I said it multiple times.
00:19:06
Speaker
I don't even remember. That's how I'm look like It's the selective amnesia for me. But yeah, i definitely said it like multiple times. I was like, oh yeah, like, you know, nobody can make me leave Glekshiana, but like, but you know, i was like, low key, I would leave. But now I don't feel that way.
00:19:25
Speaker
But it's not because of that. It's just that white muscle shirt and I needed him to find that picture h q and I never did. Yeah, I don't know where they got that from. don't know I hope it's not edited, but we know that it's true because he does work out. But yeah, needless to say, right that's like really, you know, the big
Personal Preferences and Family Influence
00:19:44
Speaker
deal. And so that's why like 17 is like my boys because we like to call them swolteen.
00:19:52
Speaker
Because they do work out. Like a lot of a lot of them, you know, in in their culture, i don't think it's like pushed for men to work out. and So the fact that they do and like pretty much all of them, not every single person, but pretty much all of them do.
00:20:09
Speaker
and And it's not like they're a little bit like. No, they're thick. Oh my God. Bro, even Sid, like Sid and Lizzie.
00:20:21
Speaker
Oh my gosh. Hey, Kachal's getting there little bit. No, but he's like, yeah he's been there though. He's still, he's just lean. he's He's just lean. But still, that's what I'm saying. Like compared to the other ones, like other people, like in other groups, they're not even doing, yeah not even that.
00:20:38
Speaker
hey but tayo getting big i was like yeah i i didn't know that he would even look good like that but he actually looks amazing i was like dang it's like he's as big as kind of like it's making things a little difficult but anyways anyways so yeah but we we we push i've been pushing that onto her and so now she's like she expects it like she'd be sending like memes of like the girl's face and the guy's face by a bicep yeah but it's like oh it's a little spicy on this episode now but okay that's the only thing we just said by a bicep that's all know okay continue yeah
00:21:29
Speaker
and Okay. Okay. But anyways. you will always Yeah, so, hey, I mean, I'm grown. That's true, that's true. We're pushing.
00:21:39
Speaker
Like, I'm not going to say the number, but but if you know me in real life, you know. But, um yeah yeah, whatever. I'm not going air myself out. Yeah.
00:21:49
Speaker
Just know we are over 21. Yeah. yeah There you go. I shouldn't have said that. Yeah, it's okay. now We'll edit this out. um
00:22:01
Speaker
Yes, mark it down the tongue. yeah, it's just funny, you know, just to see like, you know, her type of change over like what a year or so. And so I like that, of course.
00:22:14
Speaker
Has it been like almost two? Well, you, you, log well, you didn't, I didn't send you that picture until last year, 2024. Yeah.
00:22:25
Speaker
So it's barely just been a year really. Cause that was just the start. You weren't like looking for it, but then now you're like, you expect it. Cause you're like even pushing it on. Like in hyphen.
00:22:39
Speaker
You're like, no, no, he needs to keep going. I'm like, oh. Because the girlies be saying this on TikTok. They'd be like, oh my gosh, close the gym. Like, girl, you better leave that gym Leave it open all night. hello Hello? 24-7.
00:22:51
Speaker
Do not let the boys leave. Let them live there, please. Because he looked better when he was told. yeah i just i don't want to talk about yeah i just don't find you know like i don't find them attractive at all they gave them so much hate i'm like you look good it's their culture and that's what i'm saying in america that's like totally normal you would get shamed if you walked around like with a bird chest and you look like slender man like you're paperweight like about to fly away Like nobody would nobody wants to see that bro put that shirt that on matter of fact put a jacket on i don't even want to see but your elbows bro like put that away. That's disgusting.
00:23:31
Speaker
Yeah, that's basically it. So I I just don't like that me personally. i don't like it I don't like to see stuff like that. You know, it just makes me feel sick to my stomach. and Honestly, once you know like once I've gone to the gym now like since I've been going I'm like, okay, yeah I see the difference look I see yeah every day exactly and i just feel like that's fair because you know and beauty standards like we just talked about like i feel like you know they expect women to be like you know like jessica rabbit or something you know it's just like oh you gotta to have all this this and that and it's like okay and so yeah you need it you need to have this this and that yeah so it's just like got me to be this way then i expect you to be the same way because no
00:24:14
Speaker
exactly feel i feel the same way yeah so i thought that was interesting but it also leads like into like um i seen a ah tweet about this a long time ago it might have been possibly like two three years ago maybe even during covid of like what people think like the female gazes like what men think the female gaze and like what women think you know the male gaze is like i feel like what they were saying basically is that men think women want you know everybody to be like like bodybuilders like like so jack to the point where it's like you know and it's like no we don't want that but they think that's what they want that's exactly what they think
00:25:03
Speaker
they were like oh if you want us to work out like you want us to be like shredded like one percent body fat like it ain't that bro i just need you to get some some guns i need you to have some guns you don't even need to have abs now i just need the gun he just doesn't i need not how do you know you can see it with your shirt and Anyways, okay.
00:25:30
Speaker
Yeah. So yeah. And so they think that like they just need to have like absolutely like no body fat like that. it up But I'm like, really? i think we just want like, you know, arms, nice back, nice legs.
00:25:43
Speaker
and I feel like that's solid bench presss oh yeah yeah so but they they don't realize that and so that's why they like shocked when sometimes people are like some people would like tone dad bods or something and we're like oh like and they're like what and it's like because i yeah like exactly like I feel like Kletz is like a perfect example for this like he he doesn't he does have like some definition but it's not like sickening yeah you know it's just like perfect yeah like he's got the nice arms he's got a chest all that and it works it's not like oh he's so defined because i feel like there's like you being jacked and then there's like too jacked like now you like mental illness like i'm worried like can you turn your neck like are you okay like you're so big that you got to turn your whole body there you go or if they're walking with like
00:26:37
Speaker
for instead of their arms like touching their sides like you're just uncomfortable you're not there's no way roblox help but that's really yeah that's really it though that's really how they actually walk yeah which is horrifying and so we don't like that but men think that that's what we want and so then um you know it's the same thing for women we think oh you know we have to look like you know jessica rabbit we have to have a coke body you know coke bottle all this kind of stuff like i yeah whole time like big hips they don't care oh they literally don't care like they like they don't care if we actually dig deeper into that they actually do not care they don't they don't they don't care at all
00:27:24
Speaker
not Not anything. if If you have a good looking face, that's all that really matters. They don't they don't care about your body or anything. They're just happy to be here. That's that's what that's what we found.
00:27:36
Speaker
And so it's like, oh you know, we see like there's like, okay, there's some discrepancies going on. Like we have these expectations and thinking and it's like in reality, they don't exist at all. yeah And so that's why it's like, yeah. And then also wants to go in on how like socialized we are as a society because it's like in the movies what do they portray skinny jack white oh yeah that's the real ta that's the realty though like if we look at it in social so like sociology wise like i'm gonna start ranting all time no no you're right though but that's what that's what like society views like beauty as yeah it's that's true for america and it was that was true for like the whole time for yeah there you go for a long period of time it was white girls it was white people right
00:28:28
Speaker
Even for males. Yep. And they had to look a certain way. it was It's not until recently, the past couple of years, until we see a difference of inclusion of diabetes. Yeah, they're not.
00:28:40
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They're not. And they're hating to see it low-key. But that's another conversation for another day. yeah But yeah, no, that's very true, very true. And I think that's true for like a lot
Universal Attractiveness: Myth or Reality?
00:28:50
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of countries, though. It's not just America, where they just view lighter-skinned people more, you know...
00:28:58
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Now, going back to Katesiana, the one standard Yes. When he says, like, oh, yeah, I'm dude, are... And that's, like, the kind of stuff that'd be really making me mad, too. Because, first of all, like, he and I are basically, like, the same code, mind you. And in for reference, we don't... we We're not showing you my face, but...
00:29:15
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but that But i'm I'm not, I'm like, you know, caramel macchiato, you know, type of skin tone. And so, so is he basically, which is not, which is not, you know, a bad thing. No, it's a And they're kind of in that, you know, melanin stage too, where they can, you know, produce either lighter or up to like my shade.
00:29:38
Speaker
And same with, you know, Latinos, they can also do that and even go darker as well. You know, black people, whatever. And so i just don't really like that they do that, but they do do that over there too. And they try to make it seem like he's like undesirable because he's like darker than them. Mind you, he's like one of the finest people on this planet.
00:29:59
Speaker
hot base is literally They're like obsessed with him. They're obsessed with him. They always think of new acronyms. Yes, they're like coming up with all these adjectives for him. He is handsome. He is attractive. He's universally fine. Like if you showed me a face.
00:30:15
Speaker
I just feel like, well, yeah, duh. like I feel like most people can agree and be like, yeah, like this person is, you know, they may not be your cup of tea or whatever, but you can at least agree, okay, yes, this person is like universally like the standard of, okay, he's good looking.
00:30:31
Speaker
Because he's not, like, too feminine looking. He's, like, perfectly meshed together. And I just want to thank God, personally, for making him. Like, I just feel like you you really took your time. and i'm just He crafted him so well. you It's giving... Every time I see him, I think of the movie Hercules. And that's, like, one of my favorite movies ever. Fun fact that also... Ooh, almost said something.
00:30:59
Speaker
Ha ha ha! Came out the same year of my birth. Whatever. You can look it up. I don't care. um but yeah. So that's like one of my favorite movies. And he definitely gives that same vibe in some sense of like a himbo.
00:31:15
Speaker
But... Yeah, I don't like that they try to do that. And people have said that, like, even on, like, some of the lives and stuff. I don't like that. And he'd be, low-key. Why did you give me a side-eye? Low-key. No, no. Oh, okay. I was like, did I something? No, no, no, I'm thinking of, like, the people that said it.
00:31:33
Speaker
Because I'm just, like, mm. And also, it's, like, back in the day, like, because it's just, like, non-due. People were, like, oh, yeah. And he's not even.
00:31:46
Speaker
like, dang. Like, none of them are. is just amazing. None of them are. But even if they were, like, okay. What about it? Yeah. Just because they're, like, lighter skin. And and let's get into, no, let's get into their makeup.
00:32:00
Speaker
Whoever is doing it needs to be fired because none of them are actually, it's only maybe like, for for example, Swotin. For example, ya and there's like a couple people that are actually like pasty, like Gringo and Ang.
00:32:17
Speaker
and a and maybe peaches but like everybody else has some color to them but even then though it's editing so much but i think peaches is still like a little bit yeah i think it just depends if he's like in the sun if he's in the sun because all of them actually can tan i've seen that but um yeah most of them it's just like the foundation doesn't match and i just saw like a video too it's really bad it's really bad this is like some some early whenever we went to the concert too right we were like it was so bad bro and it's just like you know i'm no makeup guru or nothing but even i know that you know but it's because they want everybody to be that shade so they feel like well you need to do this yeah and it looks really because know kachalas was horrible sorry
00:33:08
Speaker
Yeah, because he's actually, yeah, he's not he's not pasty like that. He actually has like a nice, like warm. Warm tone. Yeah. they made it too, like, too pale. And I was like. He looks bad like that. The lip, whatever he had on for the lip, it looks like. he Oh, and also, Green Go 2. I was like.
00:33:26
Speaker
Oh, yeah. They be making him look, bro. He be looking like a Cabbage Patch doll, bro. Every time, I'm like, what is this? It be looking bad. It be looking bad. It be looking real bad. And I hate to see it, you know. It be making me want to apply, like I've said that many times. Also, as a, like, um clothing stylist, because Lord help.
00:33:45
Speaker
Yeah. it was rain Girl, and I just seen him in something else, too, and I was like, please. will it in like who is packing this for him like please stop because man's is too fine to be looking like that like the only time they dressed him right is when he's at a photo shoot bro and i'm just like please please let him take those clothes on and don't change it up let him wear it just like that And actually take those atrocious long boots away. Oh my gosh. I hate the whole clown shoes trend that's happening in their country. I just don't think it fits. just don't.
00:34:21
Speaker
I just, it looks so bad on everybody. it looks silly. Because it's like, yeah, they're trying to make like thick souls. because they want to be taller. They want to be taller. Men's is already like... he's Yeah, he's he's a giant. yeah He doesn't need any more height.
00:34:35
Speaker
He really doesn't. I understand why other people will try to wear them to, you know, try to make it seem like they're not so little standing next to him. Because man's a 6'2", soaking wet. Like, no shoes, barefoot. Mm-mm-mm-mm.
00:34:49
Speaker
Lord he already know he already know you know I can't need him right now I don't have self control don't have the willpower to say no but anyway and yeah so it's just like it's really weird but their beauty standard is totally different but yet I think despite that and I think that's what I really like about him is that he's still like tenacious despite you know people like saying stuff you know About him and making it seem like. Oh you're not like.
00:35:23
Speaker
Attractive because you're darker. Yeah he gets he gets like all the like. Brand deals like he's like. Dang you're the favorite. If we're just kind if we're gonna keep it a book. And then he's not just the favorite, you know.
00:35:35
Speaker
no like across board. He's like everywhere. Like everywhere. Like he's sitting, like people are like excited to see him. Like they know Because they know he's handsome. Yeah, he is.
00:35:46
Speaker
Yeah. And also like he really does try to like talk to people in English. He's like a really social person. And I like that about him. Yeah, so. You know, I'm thinking of that Glorilla song. She's like, they say shoulder shoot a shoot.
00:36:00
Speaker
Duke Dennis. What's up with you? Like, for real. Mingyu. Yeah, yeah. I'll drop the name. I forget by this time, if they don't know who it is, like, you know what it is? just told you it was You don't know that you're a little bit. Yeah, what's up with you and we're the same age. So literally the same month.
00:36:19
Speaker
Oh my god and dropping your age Yeah, I mean already said it with Hercules, but yeah, we're one same year same month just like a couple weeks apart, but hey besides the point um You know, it's just, it's crazy.
Inclusivity in American Beauty Standards
00:36:37
Speaker
But at the end of the day, you know, like our cultures, we all have like, you know, different standards. And I feel like America is like a lot more inclusive now. Like we don't really care about, you know, that kind of stuff. I just feel like if you look good, you look good.
00:36:51
Speaker
WBL is fading out though. It should. That culture is horrible. And it looks bad. And I feel like since TikTok has happened, shame has been brought back. And that is a good thing.
00:37:05
Speaker
You know, we used to say bring bullying back because, you know, sometimes people some people need to be told, bro, this looks horrible. And you don't need to do this again. Like, don't do that. Like, I'm actually going to slap this out of your hand. and Like, stop.
00:37:16
Speaker
um So in America, we don't really care. It used to be like a really big deal way back when but I think since I Want to say like getting into high school and then definitely in college. I feel like It just kind of loosened people didn't really care. They just feel like you know, whatever like eyes in the beholder, you know, but other countries they might feel differently like Korea for example South Korea You know, they they still want people to be really thin. But also, I think it it does go with, like, ethnicity.
00:37:53
Speaker
Typically, you know, Asian people are thinner just by nature. have several coworkers that are from different parts. You know, one is, like, from, well, he's not from there, but he's Vietnamese, and then have Thailand, forget where the other person is from.
00:38:11
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I can't. I was lost.
00:38:15
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no i can't remember right now but um yeah so and they they've just said like no like we have like a really high metabolism and like the things that they eat it's like you know so it's curated so that they can see so it's easier for them to be than even in that country we already talked about previously how bad american food is yeah it is like one of the worst things um cities yeah to where like they don't have to use A car.
00:38:40
Speaker
Yeah. But even then, even then, when you just look at like old pictures, like when we were like, well, not we, because I wasn't lying, but like 60s, you know, 70s, people were so then, even in the 80s. Now, granted, by the time the 80s came, the 70s, people were doing crack cocaine. So that's why they were so skinny. But...
00:38:59
Speaker
Before that, before that, before that, people, you know, yeah, they went in walkable cities, but they were still eating food, like, that wasn't processed. Yeah. And so, like, by 90s, like, 2000s, everything was starting to become processed.
00:39:14
Speaker
Yeah. So that's why it's, like, so easy for people to gain weight. And then that's when fast food joints started. Mm-hmm. Everywhere. Everywhere. Because really, people didn't, I mean, when I was a kid, we didn didn't have fast food all the time.
00:39:25
Speaker
and it was a little curry yeah we like we didn't we didn't do that like we had food at home like yeah we had food at home yeah that didn't mean that somebody cooked it just meant you had to make something um so it's like we didn't eat out that much so it's like i'm eating real food so my body processes it properly versus like you know If I got Whataburger today, of course, it would take me a while to process that because it's not real.
00:39:52
Speaker
Yeah. but I mean, if you do an experiment and see how long it takes for the buns and like the meat to deteriorate. Exactly. I mean, they've already done like some documentaries. I remember that whole phase where people were talking about supersize me. It was that one guy that white guy.
00:40:07
Speaker
and he ate for like what? Yeah, he ate McDonald's for like 30 days, breakfast, lunch, dinner every day. That crazy. And he gained weight. like So many things went wrong with him. And he was doing like supersize diet. Yeah. Like they banned supersize after that. my yeah But um it took that just for people to like, you know, see how bad it was.
00:40:28
Speaker
So it's just interesting. But for the most part, you know, America has really turned mostly body positivity. Not really. You know, they still do. They still try to shame people for being too big. They're shaming Lizzo and now she's like working out and now they're like oh she's being a- And they were like oh she's so pretty now.
00:40:47
Speaker
And I'm like really? But they were also like oh she's doing it for Cloud or something like that. Like no it's called being healthier. Yeah. That's weird. Yeah, it just depends. It just depends. You know, sometimes we have progressiveness, but then other times we don't. And like another that's another level to pick.
00:41:04
Speaker
Like, the way people would treat you once you, like, lose weight. It's so different than how people used to treat you, but not before you did. It is. Because saw a difference. Very much, very much. I saw difference and was like, why are people talking to me now?
00:41:17
Speaker
Y'all never talk to me now. You're talking to now? No, that's it. No, she's speaking right No, on no that's that's really true, though. That's really true. that's That's true for weight, but it's also true for, like, you know, if you're, like, a late bloomer as well. Like, I feel like, I didn't feel like I was, like, ugly or nothing when I was, like, a kid or anything, but definitely when college came, I bloomed more into, you know.
00:41:45
Speaker
my adult version of myself and so I looked better embrace than I did. i And so it was just like, oh, I would like, I remember so many times I used to say this to my roommates.
00:41:58
Speaker
I'd be like, ah, we you know, we would see like a guy or something, but like, dang, who is that? And I'd be like, dang, he's out of my league. They're like, stop saying that. They're like, no, he's not. And then whole time, and got Shorty's number, you know. I got Fine She's number, you know.
00:42:13
Speaker
So, you know, it's just like, it's is not impossible. um and And, you know, men try to make jokes. but like, oh, women, you know, we live life on easy mode. Low-key in that sense for beauty absolutely pretty privilege is a real thing Yeah, a lot of people can get by in that men don't really get pretty privileged that much But the way you act yup, it's the way you act and so that's why klatsyana perfect example he acts well, you know, he's socially acceptable like people tend to like him he's like he has i don't want to say charisma because i feel like some other people do have more charisma um in that group more so than him but he is likable yeah he's he's confident so yeah then then he is charismatic then yeah you're right it's like hit the way he carries himself yeah it's like you know he's like yeah i know handsome like and what about it Yeah, like but he's not vain. There you go. But he's not also just like, oh, yeah, you're a... He's just like, yeah, I know. And he doesn't... He's very humble about it. There you go. he's very He's not like... He's like, oh, you guys just stop talking about it. Yeah. the whole... All of Soulty knows that, yeah.
00:43:24
Speaker
Yeah, they they know. And they be saying a whole bunch about it. And I do not like that because they be trying to crack on him as if he's like... wo And I'm like, no. like If you're jealous, just say that. Because...
00:43:39
Speaker
man's is man's is gorgeous but but nobody nobody's saying that they they look bad they don't are you kidding me hello y'all look great too it's pictorial i mean hello yeah oh my god that was really good i was like i was shocked too yes it was it was good even even i rose that he did i was like what the heck bro It just it opened my eyes.
00:44:03
Speaker
But um for the better, for the better. For the better, yeah. I forgot where I was going because now I'm like picturing that in my mind. Where he's like laying like this. Oh my gosh. But yeah, yeah. So he's he's socially acceptable, you know. and so But then he also like has, you know, everything else going. So it works.
00:44:21
Speaker
Yeah, it works for him. You know, versus, like, some people that are just, like, vain. You know, so he gets, like, the pretty privilege, but he, like, he kind of worked
Beyond Looks: Charisma and Personality
00:44:30
Speaker
for it. Like, even if he wasn't as good looking, I feel like he still would get things.
00:44:34
Speaker
Like, his actions, whenever he's out and about in public and how he acts and everything, you can see, like, oh, yeah, hey, this is why they posted. Yeah, he's just a likable person. He's just, like, sociable butterfly. he is. He's talking everybody. He's just smiling on his face. I like that about him. So you can't catch him on a bad day.
00:44:50
Speaker
Yeah, no, he does. He does. i mean, he's human. Yeah, of course. We're all human. But it's just like, yeah, I really like that. i could I could talk for a really long time.
00:45:01
Speaker
About him, yeah. you know we know no yeah that's not but anyway d honest um yeah so it's just like it's just interesting you know i really think beauty such an interesting topic because you know we can think of several people you know like we just mentioned you know she doesn't particularly like him you know for whatever reason but
00:45:29
Speaker
but but he's you know he's part of that and the thing is's not anyways so next subject shut and we can we can bring somebody else into the mix you know there's somebody there's somebody in bts i don't really particularly care for it and it's for multiple reasons not just the way they look it's the way they act she loves him she's like that's his that's her bias like she you know but but She's running hard for him. That my OG right there. And I just, I can't see it.
00:45:58
Speaker
That doesn't mean they please out that he's ugly or anything. It's just, I just personally, I don't see the appeal. But that's because, you know, we're different. We're different people, different personalities.
00:46:11
Speaker
You know, I'm like, I guess, yeah, you could say I'm outgoing and I'm just, you know, I like to talk. You're the... I'm very you's a yeah social. yeah And so I would prefer somebody that compliments that, not necessarily like you talk all the time.
00:46:28
Speaker
is why you got your lefty friend. He does talk, but it's just like he's like selective sometimes. Or like he just he lets him being tired take over everything.
00:46:43
Speaker
And that kind of bothers me. But to be fair, their schedule is like really intense. But that's not an excuse to me. But anyways, nay we're not going to get into that. it's really it's It's so many layers to that that I just i don't even feel like talking about. But... um Yeah, it's several people, you know, that we don't see eye to eye to.
00:47:07
Speaker
But it's like, what and i just yeah just it doesn't, you know, but it's like, hey, if you like it, i love it for you. You know, that's, that's really all that matters. It doesn't really bother me.
00:47:20
Speaker
yeah even though i was like pushing him onto you i was like i don't really see but you know but i didn't see it in the beginning yeah low key yes this is this is this is true for everybody that i've pushed onto her though by the way mind I have like not found them at all or like maybe just a little bit sometimes and then I'm like oh I think you would like like this person not because they're like whatever but it's just like okay I think based off of like their personality and some of the things and like and likewise so i'm like okay like I think you might be interested and then like in the midst of me like sending her some of the stuff I'm like damn that video looks kind of nice I don't know
00:48:01
Speaker
Maybe he does look okay. Yeah, because, yeah, like, like you said earlier, sometimes there's certain pictures of people and like in certain lightings and elements. It's like, oh, you can pull up one from a concert.
00:48:22
Speaker
that picked That video they're performing that song. Ash. Oh, that one too. That's the one I'm thinking of. That one and Rain. so oh Oh, I know what you're talking about.
00:48:35
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. you know, yeah. So it's just like different things can... it was There are certain moments where you can be like, okay, I see it. I see why the girlies are feeling that way now.
00:48:49
Speaker
But, yeah, no. It's just... for steve harvey were oh my gosh no that was crazy that was crazy that was the crazy that one was like one i did not expect at all like but i was not expecting that no in any capacity no i was like both walked over like pause and it's crazy because they kept conditioning me too they kept giving me like freebies of him and i'm like dude i do not want to see steve harvey bro but then we saw that one part and we're like And I was like, dang, he's like eating. He's eating so bad. Like he ate.
00:49:23
Speaker
And there's just like some pictures that you're just like. True. And he. almost said something. I know.
00:49:33
Speaker
but Yeah, he just, you know, it just it just hits different. and But even just like at the TXT concert, you know. um um i was like pushing. beto Yeah, I was pushing. her I was like, girl, i don't know.
00:49:44
Speaker
don't know. Homie, homie, I'm telling you. God. And then what do we know? That boy was showing out. he He was showing out the whole concert. Even I was like, hello? Yeah.
00:49:56
Speaker
Girl, I was just like, every single picture, I was just like, I was trying it was him it's crazy i was over here trying to catch at least one episode than another I know oh and thats like that's what's so funny too I think that's like been the funniest part about like us going to some of these concerts is that I go into it trying to like get the person I really want and I end up getting like some of the best photos of people i was not even trying to Like, why did I get so many good photos of someone?
00:50:26
Speaker
I was not trying to. Well... Well, that was before. That was good, though. That was actually before. That was great, though. It was great, but that was before, and I was like, pause. was like, wait a minute, because... It was shocking. He looked great. He was glowing.
00:50:41
Speaker
That was a good content. That was a good content. But, yeah, so it just... We know.
00:50:49
Speaker
but you know so like im yeah I I wouldn't be. Honestly, he's been falling. I totally would understand if he went. i know i definitely I definitely tweeted you and was like, no.
00:51:02
Speaker
but But if he went, I'd be like, hey, girl, have a good time. Because we know he's going to put on a good show. Based off of the things I've been seeing, I was like, whoa. whoa The new song, I was like,
00:51:17
Speaker
Yeah, I like it. i like the direction he's going in. I'm finally happy that they're like going into like real adulthood and they're not like yeah doing some baby doll songs.
00:51:28
Speaker
um, yeah. And even him. um so yeah everyone's like actually and even him I think I've seen certain, I'm not really into him, but you know, some um certain photos I've seen, I was like, okay, I see.
00:51:40
Speaker
i see the vision. So this just proves the point. You know, it's not that people can't or they're not like just on one complete side of the spectrum, I guess, if that makes sense.
00:51:52
Speaker
Like they're not just because you may find them attractive and I don't doesn't mean that they're ugly. You know, it just means maybe it's I need to see them in a different angle. There you Maybe i need to see them in a different light. There you go.
00:52:04
Speaker
To be able to. And I feel like we just proved that several times. We did. And we'll use deep pride as an example, you know. Oh my gosh. Miss girl over here. Miss girl over here You know, she'd be in denial or whatever, but she'd be saying it. She literally said in the first episode too, mind you. I didn't even put a gun to her back. Did I say it? She did say it. She's like, we share him. did.
00:52:28
Speaker
She shared that. Oh my gosh. You know, it's the same thing. I was pushing. I wasn't pushing him. She was pushing him on to you. No, but you did ask her, like, how come you don't like him? And I'm like, no, I didn't ask you that. Yeah, you did.
00:52:41
Speaker
You asked me once you were like, how come he's not your bias? Because it's like, you're like, I asked you that later. it's like yeah well he does. He fits like, you know, somebody you would typically like be interested in. Yeah. um But that's not the first thing I asked you, though. No, it was like and a scenario where i was like, who'd you choose, like, Clutz or Deep Ride if you had to? But it took her so long to say it y'all. Like, she was, like, foaming at the mouth. Like, hi!
00:53:06
Speaker
Hi! Hi! hey and i'm like bro just choose because i was like i said it right now i was like yeah i know you did but it took it took you it took you yeah we don't need to finish that anyways but i was like to me it didn't matter because i'm like that's a win-win situation i wouldn't care who i got you know for me but she was just like i don't know And then she said it.
00:53:33
Speaker
And I'm like, duh. And so i was like, duh. like He's like right up your alley. like That makes so much sense. But he's yeah, he's really good looking. It's always, it's just the way acts. I just, I can't rock with it. But I still think he's very attractive.
00:53:48
Speaker
But anyways.
Final Thoughts on Beauty and Self-Acceptance
00:53:50
Speaker
That's what has a point. So I think the basis of this message is yes, we talked about you should just love yourself. You know, beauty is subjective. It doesn't matter if somebody else says something about you or other countries standards. Or also like the people you end up liking.
00:54:07
Speaker
Because at the end of the day, it's your person. And if you love this person, long as they treat you well. Why don do they treat you well? Well, I feel like as long as you're attracted to them, I think yeah that's all that matters. Because there's always going to be people like saying, like, oh, oh.
00:54:23
Speaker
But it's like, it don't matter. yeah You're not dating them. You're the person who's dating them. You're not dating them, so what did you say that for? Yeah. So I feel that way. Yeah. i feel that way.
00:54:34
Speaker
So. That makes sense. Yeah. So that's all we wanted to talk about today. You know. hope you'll like it. You know. Another episode of You Know. You Know. So. We'll see. I don't know what we're going to talk about next time. But we'll figure it out. Yeah. We'll figure it out.
00:54:49
Speaker
So. We'll be back. Thanks for so many. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye
00:55:10
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you know what Yeah.