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14. Coaching Behind the Scenes: A Real Client Scenario
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In this episode, I talk through a real client situation and how I’m approaching the next phase of their journey, going from a bulk to working towards a cut/deficit.
I cover the habits we’re prioritizing, how calorie and macro targets are determined, and why consistency matters more than constantly changing strategies.
This is a practical explanation of how nutrition coaching plays out with real people.
Topics include nutrition coaching, calorie targets, macros, habit consistency, individualized programming, and how we’re going to make progress together.
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Introduction and Episode Focus
00:00:00
Speaker
Hello, my friends. Welcome back. We are here with another episode of the Basics of Balance. My name is Ariella, and I am excited um to kind of switch things up a little bit for today's conversation because ah we are going to be going over a very real and specific client scenario.
00:00:20
Speaker
um And I thought it would just be really helpful for a few reasons. Number one, to shed light on two different perspectives of the same situation, right? So perspective from ah the client side of things, but also perspective from the coaching side of things. um And I also think this is going to be really helpful um because the last episode I was kind of talking about goals since yeah at the time that I'm recording, at least last episode in this one, it's January.
New Year: A Time to Refocus
00:00:47
Speaker
So it's the beginning of the year. And that is typically when a lot of people ah refocus, right? They recalibrate, they are, you know, trying to figure out what they want their year to look like and what they want to accomplish and setting goals and, you know, things like that, right? um
00:01:02
Speaker
And I also kind of talked about, um you know, goal mapping and learning to periodize your goals, um Identifying your your on seasons when you have capacity to push. Identifying your off seasons when you know life might be a little crazy and you might need to give yourself permission to coast a little bit. um And how you know doing that, looking at your goals from a big bird's eye view, can help you see how each phase kind of complements each other, how it's all kind of part of the plan. And arguably speaking, when you are in a season of push, when you're in a season of focus, you're dieting or you know pushing or grinding, whatever you want to call it, um especially when you're getting tired towards the end of that season, when you know a break is coming, when you know that there's a break that's going to give you a little bit more um rest, help you recoup some energy, you can push that much more. cause you know it's not just grinding forever and ever, it's part of an overall plan, right?
00:01:56
Speaker
So all of that to say, um last week I had a conversation with one of my clients because in January i tried to do as many goal mapping calls as possible with my individual clients um because same, same for all of those reasons, right? Make sure we're all on the same page. um And so last week I was talking to a client and we had recently just ah changed the goal from a bulk, which is trying to intentionally build muscle. So we were in a slight caloric surplus. She was eating a little bit more than her body needs in order to maintain homeostasis. um ah in in an effort to build muscle, right?
Muscle Building Essentials
00:02:38
Speaker
Two, well, a lot, but two main components when it comes to building muscle, we have to make sure that we are ah strength training. We're following that structured strength training program that focuses on progressive overload style principles, meaning you are repeating the same motions over several weeks with the intention of doing more ah week after week. ah More can mean either lifting heavier weight, doing more reps, um adding tempo, so adding maybe a pause in the contraction ah to place more demand on the muscle without adding weight. um And so many ways to do that, but progressive overload, structured strength training program, you're tracking your weight, reps, all of that stuff can
00:03:17
Speaker
so that you can try to build on what you're doing, right? So that you can identify how to progressively overload those muscles over time. Second component of that is your nutrition, okay? So you need to make sure that you're eating enough food. um And that kind of denotes that like you you're not really to be able to build muscle when you're in a cut, when you're in a deficit, when you are dieting. So um all of that to say,
00:03:42
Speaker
We were in a surplus. We were, you know, focusing on making sure she's eating enough food of that food. Protein is massively important because that is the fundamental building blocks that your body needs as far as fuel is concerned um to recover from that exercise, to build back stronger um so that we can keep, you know, not only getting stronger, but also building muscle at the same time. Right.
00:04:05
Speaker
very, very thousand foot level explanation of building muscle. However, for sake of a conversation, for sake of this story, which is the entire point um of what we're talking about is we shifted from ah caloric surplus, building muscle to, okay, now we're going to try to ah reduce some body fat, right? We want to kind of change the goal a little bit. The fundamental habits
Transitioning to Maintenance
00:04:31
Speaker
remain the same. So we are With all of my clients, we focus on four fundamental habits. We are focusing on making sure we're getting enough adequate sleep. ah We are making sure we are staying hydrated. We're drinking enough water throughout the day. We are making sure we have a nutrition focus. So in this case specifically, that nutrition focus switched from caloric surplus to build to we are now moving into a maintenance frame. So we're starting to taper calories down a little bit. eventually moving into a deficit, right?
00:05:00
Speaker
And then steps. So that is like your need activity. So, you know, staying active throughout your day outside of structured activity. um That's why typically we see a lot of step goals, but that can be organizing. That can be cleaning. that can you know It doesn't have to be steps, but steps are often helpful um to give people something to strive towards, right? And then your structured exercise, then your structured activity, your lifts, your um you know cardio sessions, things like that, okay? So the fundamental habits of of the goals or what should I? No, let me back up. The fundamental habits do not change, right? So we were focused on those same habits when we were trying to build muscle. We are focused on those exact same habits as we are shifting gears from building to eventually losing, right? The difference is, the caveat is, that nutrition focus, we move from that surplus to, like I mentioned, now we're moving into a maintenance frame of mind. We will eventually drop even more to bring her into a caloric deficit, okay? So that main focus, in addition to her knee activity, we are going to, um you know, go from a lower target of About 8,000 steps to, hey, 8,000 to 10,000 steps. We're slowly ramping up her neat activity, which is a huge contributor to ah losing weight, losing fat. Huge, huge, huge contributor. Next to your diet, next to how much you're eating, massively important, okay? Don't discredit that. Don't overlook that um if that is something that you are worked at working on
00:06:39
Speaker
And then as far as her structured activity, her strength training is going to remain the same. That's not going anywhere because when we are ah when we are in a surplus, we have the ability to leverage not only being in a caloric surplus and resistance training, when we are removing food,
00:06:59
Speaker
We don't have as much to leverage, so we have to make sure that we are preserving our muscle. We can't do that by our nutritional focus. We can't do that by making sure we're eating enough food. So we have to make sure that we are doing that with what we have left to work with, which is our resistance training, okay? So that's not changing. That's not going anywhere. We are still following a structured strength training program. ah We are still trying to, um you know, preserve our muscle. We are still trying to challenge ou ourselves with every single set. Those things are not changing. What is going to change over time is we are going to be adding in extra structured cardio. Okay.
00:07:35
Speaker
Um, And all of that to say, that is basically what we're switching the goal from. Surplus, build, maintenance right now, moving into deficit. And those are
Sustainable Lifestyle Changes
00:07:45
Speaker
really the only fundamental differences, okay? um And that's a big reason why like nothing really needs to change from goal to goal. We just kind of like adapt and shift a couple of little things. And that's really what makes a balanced lifestyle so ah sustainable, right? We're not reinventing the wheel. We're not overhauling our entire life. We are making tiny tweaks here and there based on what we need to, monitoring our progress, monitoring biofeedback, things like that. um and And, you know, making changes accordingly, right? So all of that to say, that's the explanation. So she's in agreement with the plan. We had a conversation. um And so the plan right now is we are dropping her calories from surplus to ah maintenance calories, okay? I told her we are not going to go from a surplus to a deficit, all right, for a couple of reasons. Number one, going from a surplus to a deficit, you're going to be hangry. And like, why why? Why? Like, what is the point? Why are we just like accepting that level of hunger? You are going to be hangry from dropping...
00:08:51
Speaker
all of those calories at once. Okay. So when we taper those calories down, we allow your body to adjust to handling lower calories. And sure, you're going to experience a little bit of hunger here and there, but the goal is hopefully not a lot. The goal is hopefully minimal hunger so that it's a little bit more sustainable. Once your body adapts, cool, we can drop calories even more, right?
00:09:16
Speaker
But going from a surplus to a deficit, that's just like working harder for the sake of working harder. There's no real point to doing that, right? Why are we making our lives harder than we need to? And the second reason is we cannot drop calories too quickly because we need to... ah Make sure that we are preserving our muscle, the muscle you worked so hard to build, the muscle that was so uncomfortable towards the end of the bulk when you were in that surplus and pushing every lift and every single you know thing that you did to build every a fiber of muscle.
00:09:49
Speaker
yeah we don't want to jeopardize that and when we drop calories too quickly we are jeopardizing that so we do need to kind of start tapering things very moderately and we don't need to do too much too soon we have plenty of time to reduce body fat we have plenty of time to um you know kind of taper things down to not shock your body um and so that's what we're gonna do i told her that we are dropping calories first The next step is going to be we're going to increase activity,
Calories and Exercise Strategy
00:10:17
Speaker
right? And we're going to be toggling back and forth between those two things until we have basically maxed out on, you know, the calories that we need to drop and maxed out on the activity that we need to increase, okay?
00:10:32
Speaker
Because there is a limit. We don't need to drop calories past a certain limit. We would need to be making sure we are eating as much as we can within our deficit. We need to make sure that we are eating as many calories as we can in our deficit. We're not trying to just like slash calories for no reason, right? There's a method behind it. There is a strategy. There is a plan fueling your muscle that you work so hard to preserve, right? Um,
00:10:56
Speaker
As far as activity is concerned, there, you know, your structured activity is only 5% of your total daily caloric expenditure, meaning all of the exercise in the world only makes up 5% of how many calories you're going to burn. And so we focus when we are making any kind of physical changes. um on your nutritional focus first and foremost. That is the driver of if you're going to gain, maintain, or lose, right? Your structured activity, it's going to enhance those nutritional choices, but your nutritional choices is quite literally going to make or break your goals. That's why a lot of times, um you know, some people can be working out for years, but not look like it, right? They feel like they're spinning their wheels because their nutrition is not in check, okay?
00:11:43
Speaker
um So all of that to say, were in agreement. We had that conversation. Love it. And so she sent in her check-in. And in her check-in, um she there was a there was a pretty big red flag.
00:11:59
Speaker
And so I reached out to her um because it's really important to me as as their coach that they understand the why behind what I'm asking them to do, okay? Okay.
Understanding Your Plan
00:12:11
Speaker
I am not a coach who just wants to like give you direction and be like, follow it. I want you to make sure that like you're in agreement with what we're doing because number one, you're putting in the work. um But also it's really important that you understand the why behind what we're doing because that's only going to help you in the long run. Eventually our time together is going to come to an end. And the hope is that you have learned how
00:12:37
Speaker
to reach your goals um in a sustainable way in many different situations that you can keep going, right? and And the more you understand about what you're doing, the better able, I'm sorry, the better you are going to be able to continue to show up for yourself, right? So I really try to focus on fostering a relationship of independent thought process versus just depending on me and my guidance, right? Obviously, I'm helping you get where you're going, but opportunities like this are really when um were able to, hey, let's have a conversation, talk about it a little bit, right?
00:13:12
Speaker
So all that to say, she sent in her weekly check-in and I had dropped her calories to 1,800 calories from her surplus, right? And she said, hey the the calories that you have given me Um, they are a lot higher than the calories that i used to follow when I was working with this other macro coach. Um, and so if you're okay with it, I'm just going to follow these numbers because it's, it's a lot less calories, AKA a that tells me, hey I'm going to get to where we're trying to go a lot faster. Right. Um, and so I reached out to her cause that was a big red flag. Okay. And I said, listen
00:13:47
Speaker
Um, you know, number one, remember the plan is we are tapering calories. Okay. So we're trying to not do too much too soon to number one, make your life easier. So you're not hungry going from a surplus to a deficit. Um, but also number two, remember we got to preserve that muscle. And when you drop calories too much, you're jeopardizing that. Right. Um, and I said, and also number two,
00:14:09
Speaker
One of the reasons that we are not following those targets, even when we continue to drop calories, is because those targets are no longer appropriate for you, okay? They are no longer applicable. They are not going to give you the desired outcome. um And here is why, okay? Number one, you followed those targets two years ago. You are two years older. Age is one of the variables that we use to determine how many calories you need to eat to reach your goals and what your macro should be within those calories, okay? Number two,
00:14:41
Speaker
ah you you weigh something different than what you weighed two years ago, okay? Number one, when the goal is primarily to build muscle, you are going to gain a little bit of body fat. So some of that weight gain that you have gained, we will lose, right? That's what we're doing, right? We're gonna lose that fat. That fat is gonna come off.
Adapting Caloric Intake
00:15:01
Speaker
That scale is gonna decrease, all of that stuff. However, even when the cut is over, even when we have dropped your body percent fat and you are loving what you see,
00:15:11
Speaker
ah You have your definition, your tone, your love in life. You're still going to weigh more than what you weighed two years ago simply because you built muscle and muscle weighs something. OK, so the weight variable is also not appropriate anymore. So so far, we're two for two. All right. Number three, the goal that you were chasing when you were working with this other macro coach was basically simply weight loss. Okay. And when we are focused on weight loss, we are just focused on the scale. We are just focused on eating a low enough calorie intake that we are losing weight. Okay. And of that weight, that can also mean not only are we losing body fat, but we are also losing muscle. It doesn't take into consideration. Are you preserving your muscle? Are you eating enough calories within that caloric deficit to make sure you are preserving your muscle? um And so we are three for three because you worked a lot or you worked really hard to build your muscle.
00:16:12
Speaker
And when we are not eating enough food in your deficit and of that food enough protein, we're not preserving your muscle anymore. We're losing that muscle. And that's not what we're here for. Right. um And so we're three for three. In addition to your workouts ah back then were different than the workouts you are doing now. And I know that because I am also your trainer. So I also write your workouts. And in being your trainer, in our initial intake call, I know what kind of workouts you were doing. You know what i mean? Your ah activity is also another component as to where your calorie should be and your macro should be. So, so far, your age, your weight, your goals, and your activity level, and I should just say activity, those are all very different, okay? And those are four huge variables that are going to 100% directly affect how many calories you need to be eating. um And therefore, if that's off, if that's inaccurate, the outcome is going to be off. The outcome is going to be inaccurate, okay? Okay. And that is the thing, okay? Sidebar. This is what I want us to understand from a big bird's eye view, all right? when you are
00:17:27
Speaker
When you are focused on your goal, you need to make sure you are eating an appropriate amount of calories to reach said goal, okay?
00:17:37
Speaker
I mentioned this a little bit ago, but when you are in a deficit, you The goal is to not just eat as little calories as you can and slash your calories with like no thought process behind it. The goal is to eat as much as you can within your caloric deficit. So if there's a threshold of calories, I want you to eat up to that threshold. okay That is what I'm trying to say. And when the calorie is inaccurate, that calorie number is inaccurate,
00:18:07
Speaker
well, then we're already missing the mark. You have no idea. You're probably going over. You're going too under. We're losing muscle if we're going too under. We're not in a deficit if we're going over. You see what I'm saying? So it's a simple process to make sure that we are you know calculating your calories and your macros appropriately. But if we are not doing that accurately speaking, we're completely missing the mark and we're putting in all that effort and we're not seeing the progress we want to see. And then that's when you hear things like a deficit didn't work for me. macros doesn't work for me. and in reality, it's just because we got off on the wrong foot from the get-go, right? um And so your age, your weight, your height,
00:18:47
Speaker
Your goal, so whether you are losing weight, maintaining weight, building muscle, those three very different vague goals are going to affect your calories in addition to your age, your weight, your height. Your activity level, okay?
00:19:02
Speaker
All exercise has value, but not all exercise is created equal. Different exercise is going to affect your body differently, okay? And the different kind of exercise you do is going to require a certain amount of calories, right? For example, if you are strength training, you are ah stimulating your muscle, your muscle is metabolically active, and the more muscle you have, the more you need to eat to preserve that muscle, not even build, preserve that muscle, okay? So somebody who is primarily strength training is probably gonna eat a little bit more than somebody who is not strength training, who is just doing cardio, right? or who is just walking or who is sedentary.
00:19:44
Speaker
See what I'm saying? Your activity type matters, okay? Your activity level matters. So how often you work out, right? The intensity of that workout and ah the duration of that workout, okay?
00:19:59
Speaker
If you're strength training for 15 minutes, five days a week, versus if you're strength training for an hour, five days a week, Hey, that matters. If you are walking, you know, 10,000 steps seven days a week, or if you are just jogging a mile every other day, that matters. So, you know, it's...
00:20:19
Speaker
it's It's a simple process for somebody who you know understands the process. It might sound confusing, but it really is a simple process. um and so Age, weight, height, activity level, your goals, all of these things matter. and so All of that to say, i communicated to her, basically, all of those things were off. All of those things are no longer appropriate in your life. so Therefore, even when we bottom out on on your calories... we're still not going to be focused on those calories. We're still not going to hit those calories, okay?
00:20:48
Speaker
And reminding her, hey, this is just our initial taper down. Next step is increasing activity because we want to try to eat as much as we can. And if we can increase activity as a tool to make your quote unquote deficit larger, we're going to do that before we just keep tapering calories down, right? Until we finally reached the point where, hey, we have bottomed out on calories. We have maxed out on activity. This is sustainable. Slow and steady wins the race, right?
00:21:19
Speaker
And so, you know, just reaching out to her, having that conversation, she was grateful. She's like, yes, I'm in agreement. You know, I i appreciate you know, you kind of taking in some time and like explaining that a little bit more. And I think that kind of just goes to show how valuable it can be to have somebody who is a third party who is emotionally removed from our goals to help guide us. Okay. Because sometimes we want to take matters into our own hands. And had she had just followed the old set of calories, number one, her protein intake was
00:21:54
Speaker
drastically lower than it needed to be. okay um And again, if we do not have that ah calorie um ah variable to leverage when we're in a deficit to preserve our muscle,
00:22:07
Speaker
hey, that's really going affect your outcome, right? You're going to lose that muscle and you're not going to love what you see. So anyways, all that to say, i feel like I'm talking in circles at this point, but, um you know, that was kind of her thought process. And I said, okay, listen, we're going to back up and we're going to talk about what we are focused on over the next couple of weeks, because she is a client who we do biweekly check-ins. So we check in every other week. um Obviously she can reach out to me at any point within those two weeks, but officially speaking, we check in every two weeks.
00:22:36
Speaker
And so this is helpful for you to know um as well. I said, these are what we're going to be focusing on. Going back to those habits, right? The sleep, the hydration, all of that stuff. Going back to those habits, this is what we are
Dietary Factors for Muscle Maintenance
00:22:50
Speaker
focusing on. And I want to share this information for you so that you can see when we are asking you, what am I saying? When you are hearing that sleep is important to your goals, these are the reasons why. It's not just an arbitrary thing, right? Right? I said, number one, sleep.
00:23:06
Speaker
Sleep is going to be massively important to you because when you get too little sleep, lack of sleep is going to promote further muscle breakdown directly it goes against your goal. right? Directly goes against the muscle that you work so hard to build. Okay. So from that reason alone, we need to make sure we are getting at least seven hours of sleep. Okay. And I'm not talking about those one-off times when, you know, your kids wake you up or you can't fall asleep. I mean, your routines. I mean, choosing to not scroll on your phone so that you can get seven hours of sleep. Okay. I mean, choosing to, you know, take a rest day if you couldn't fall asleep and instead of go work out on three hours of sleep, choose to, you know, push your alarm back so you can get more sleep, right? Understanding that your sleep will directly affect your ability to preserve your muscle matters. And that's going to give you more of a reason to try to keep trying to sleep.
00:24:02
Speaker
Number two, um your sleep, when we don't get enough sleep, when we are focused on losing weight, when we're in a caloric deficit, um it's going to make you hungrier. Number one, your hunger hormone responsible, um you know, for basically telling us how satisfied we are, right? When we have eaten enough food, that that hormone kicks in saying, yep, we're good to go. We're full. um that no That doesn't have an opportunity to regulate when we don't get enough sleep. And so we end up needing to eat more in order to satisfy that hormone. So when somebody is dieting, sleep is in their best interest because lack of sleep is going to make you hungrier and it's going to make it really, really hard for you to not eat too much food. and being in a deficit is the number one requirement in order to lose weight. So see how sleep is important. It's not just like an arbitrary thing.
00:24:56
Speaker
Number two, moving on, calories, protein, and fiber. When we are, when I'm working with a client, ah nutritionally speaking, we are focused on a few different things, but from a macro view, we are focused on calories because calories are king, whether the goal is to lose, maintain, or build, right? And then protein is the most important macronutrient as it relates to, you know, building and preserving your muscle, keeping you satisfied. um And, you know, preserving your muscle is important when you're trying to lose weight because your muscle is your metabolism. the The more muscle you have, the higher your metabolism, the faster your metabolism. So we have to take into consideration trying to preserve your muscle in an effort to keep your metabolism as high as we can, right?
00:25:41
Speaker
ah Protein is also going to help you keep you a little bit more satisfied because that's one of the benefits of eating enough protein, right? When we are just focusing on calories and not necessarily macros, um it it can be really hard to stay within your calories because... not all calories are created equal, right? You could just be eating 1200 calories of vegetables and it's not going to satisfy you the same as if you were eating a balanced meal, right? With protein, with fat, with fiber, you know, carbs, things like that. So protein is going to be massively important in addition to that calorie focus. Okay. And then thirdly, we want to make sure that we are eating enough fiber. Number one, from a overall health approach, right? The majority of Americans are not eating enough fiber. ah However,
00:26:29
Speaker
when we are talking specifically about when we are trying to lose weight, when we're in a deficit, when we are dieting, fiber is going to help keep you more satisfied as well. So when we focus on, hey, we can't eat too many calories, we need to make sure we're understanding your protein intake, your fiber intake, um things like that are going to sometimes make it a little bit easier to stay within your calories and therefore be able to make you keep going and see more progress. Okay. So making sure you're having enough fiber is going to, you know, kind of help keep you more satisfied. And fiber is, ah you know, primarily found in, you know, fruits and veggies and fruits and veggies can add volume to your diet, which also takes up space in your belly and also helps you stay more satisfied. So It all kind of works together, right? It's not necessarily just about focusing on calories. It's understanding within those calories how to um make sure that we are staying as satisfied as we can to make sure that we are putting one foot in front of the other and keeping going, right?
00:27:30
Speaker
Next up, we're focused on that meat activity that I talked about next to your calories, next to your nutritional focus is going to be a massive um ah factor in terms of ah physical changes, right?
Activity and Resistance Training
00:27:44
Speaker
And so we're really only aiming for 8,000 to 10,000 steps right now. She has a walking pad. She has a dog. So like shouldn't really be that hard. Plus, she usually averages like 9,000 anyway, but we're increasing her step goal from about 8,000 8,000 to 10,000. Okay. Not anything crazy, just slight little bump. Okay. Um, and I said, that is going to be the next step in which we increase, or that is going to be the next change. Um, so we're going to keep your calories at about 1800, but we are going to be leveraging your need activity. We're going to be increasing that at the next step. Okay.
00:28:17
Speaker
And then I finished with your lifts and your cardio. All right. Your lifts and your cardio, in order of importance, we are focused on your three lifts. That doesn't change. Trying to fall at the the bottom to the mid-rep range. A couple of reps shy of failure. Lifting heavy enough to stimulate your muscle. All of that doesn't change because, again, we don't have the calories to leverage. We have to make sure that we're doing what we can with what we have, a.k.a. resistance training to preserve the muscle that you have, right? And so resistance training, massively important. That's not going anywhere. We did add a couple of steady state cardio options at the end of her workout.
00:28:57
Speaker
Nothing crazy. Walking on a treadmill at a light incline, 10 to 15 minutes. We're not talking about... um you know, adding or removing any of her rest days or anything like that. Rest is going to be massively important. um And so we're just adding on 10 to 15 minutes here and there. And this is something else that she told me in her check-in that she was going to do her three lifts. She was going to do cardio at the end of all three sessions and at least one Peloton ride. um um And that gave me an opportunity to basically explain to her, um again, your calories and your macros are directly related to your activity level. And so when we're doing way more activity than those calories are calculated for, in addition to you basically telling me, hey, I'm going to be following way less calories, doing way less.
00:29:43
Speaker
Whoa, we're we're drastically changing the plan. We're drastically making things harder. You know, again, one step at a time kind of thing. Slow and steady wins the race. um And so, yes, we will be increasing your activity. But number one, we already increased activity 10 to 15 minutes of cardio a couple of times a week. um And the next step is going to be increasing your steps. Like yeah nothing crazy. We're just like slightly taking things up a notch. Right. ah And so all of that to say, um you know, it was able to kind of give me an opportunity to really just explain to her, which I'm hoping is helpful for you to in your journey. how, you know, it's the basics, guys. It's the basic fundamental habits that I kind of talked about a few times.
Empowerment Through Understanding
00:30:26
Speaker
Nothing really changes from goal to goal. We're just tweaking some of those habits, but we still practice those habits, right?
00:30:34
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We're not overhauling our life. And at the end of her check-in, you know I was kind of able to give her a big bird's eye view in terms of you know how much she how much she gained, you know where we're at now as far as her physical metrics, because that's something that I do also. um you know Obviously, monitoring metrics, her her weight, her measurements, her pictures, all of that stuff. And we were able to see, even though she felt pretty uncomfortable towards the end of her bulk, um again, valid you know psychologically and also physically speaking,
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I was able to, you know, provide ah a big bird's eye view in terms of, I know that you're not feeling comfortable right now. We obviously have a plan to kind of, you know, get where we're trying to go.
00:31:16
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But in reality, from start to finish, you gained 5.3 pounds. that's That's it. And I don't say that or I didn't say that to dismiss her because she's a pretty petite person and five pounds is a lot for a petite person to put on. um But at the end of the day, it's only five pounds. So like we feel like we put on more weight and that's valid.
00:31:38
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But like you're feeling sometimes don't match the numbers. Right. And so I think, again, sometimes kind of having that like big bird's eye view kind of just helps us realize like, oh, okay, so maybe I was a little bit off and like maybe I was a little emotional and like it just kind of helps us grow and evolve in our journey and understanding um the process of things. So That was basically a client scenario, um kind of a little tension point here and there. um But I do, I am a really big believer in knowledge is power. And the more that you know about something, the more you understand the why behind something, the more you're going to be able to number one, buy in. um And also number two, ah remember those experiences for future experiences moving forward. That's how we grow, right?
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00:32:23
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So anyways, all that to say, i hope that was helpful for you just kind of go over a client scenario and, you know, just some of the tension points, some of the sticky points and just kind of explaining the why behind everything. um If there's anything that I said on this show that you want me to kind of elaborate on or you want to touch base on or you want me to kind of cover on another episode, you just let me know. And don't forget to give this show a little rating five stars only. Thank you very much. But it really, really does help. Share the word. i appreciate you guys. I hope this is a helpful resource for it for you. Let's keep on keeping on. And until next time,
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