Introduction to the Will Bruin Podcast
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Will Bruin runs again, and can this be the start of such a win? Will Bruin does his score goals. Will Bruin does it. Will Bruin gets an envelope.
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Welcome to the very first episode of the long-awaited, but still to be named, Will Bruin podcast. I'm Jeremiah Shan, we're joined by Lickit, and of course, Will Bruin is actually here recording his own podcast.
Parenthood and Personal Challenges
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I know, and when I said we should look at starting this podcast, I think it was maybe six months ago. It was February. And here's episode one. Yeah, it was six months ago. Babies are more work than I anticipated.
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I know. I felt like a lot of people were telling you this, but not in so many words. Yeah, well, I'm pretty stubborn. So I don't really listen to a lot of people. But now, I'm on the other end of that telling people that are soon to have babies. Oh, man, it's a lot more work than you think. It's full circle. That's the joy of having kids, is being able to tell other people how hard it is. I feel like it should be like a GEICO commercial, you know, or something like that.
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Exactly. So, what have you been up to? We haven't talked to you for six months. She's raising a baby. Now, just hanging out, you know, it's kind of, I got more free time now, unfortunately, but you know, that's how it is. I get to do fun things like this with you guys, you know, just...
Knee Injury and Rehab Journey
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kind of annoying well you bring it up so we may as well get into this okay so tell us about this injury tell us how it happened tell us what's going through your head when when the when you when you get the news or when you first yeah the whole thing so crossing crossing finishing pretty simple I probably made that run 25,000 times in my professional career not even
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let alone before that. So trying to get across near post, get a touch to it, flick it in before goalie comes out. I was a little later, timing was off, goalie came out to punch it and just right into knee, freak accident.
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I planted and immediately when I heard that noise, I was like, oh God, this is not good. I thought I did my whole leg. I thought I did every ligament in my knee. I was like, I went into like shock, like on the field like, no, this like, I never thought this would happen to me. Like, I've never really had a super serious injury aside from, I mean, if you consider it dislocated elbow serious, but. Which I guess you didn't consider it serious because you were out like a week for that.
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Six days, but who's counting who's counting but no that was that was a tough one But then again that there were no fractures in that that was just dislocated Doc put it right back in and you know the best part about it. Nothing was fractured when it came dislocated So good thing I got strong bones
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At what point did you realize that it was maybe a best case scenario? What's the process that you go through? You're going into shock. They take you out the field. So when it happened, that noise, I'm just starting to get the sound of it popping out of my head. And I remember everybody just like, you could hear a pin drop with how quiet it got. And then I'm just like, oh, god, I can't breathe. I'm starting to sweat.
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Trainers all run out. They treated it very well. I got put up on the gator, taken back to the locker room. And actually, Matt Winter helped carry me in, because I'm a big guy. So a good thing he was around when it happened to help carry me into the training room. My understanding is that's mainly why he's around, is just when you need that extra muscle. Yeah. And I like to wrestle him now. He can get ready for it now while I'm sitting up on my knee.
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And then it started to set in like, OK, no bones are broken. They did all that testing and stuff. And they were like, OK, we think it's your MCL and ACL. I don't really get emotional with injuries. I got emotional with this one. That's just how it is. And then at the hospital, my wife and Liam came. And I was just waiting on the MRI. And they said, torn ACL, MCL's just strained.
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And then honestly, for the rehab, it's almost, I think the MCL is pretty much healed now. But during that rehab, it hurt the most. It hurt more than the ACL, just because that's the biggest ligament. It gets blood supply so that one can heal on its own.
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But now we're post-surgery. Wounds are healing up pretty well. They took the quad graft, the quad tendon, put it in. It's going to turn into a ligament over time. It's crazy what the body can do. And you know, I'll be ready for preseason.
Injury's Impact on Family and Career
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That is a bold prediction that we're going to hold you to. Well, I recover fast. You can hold me to it. I'll be ready. I'm not saying I'll be 100% full go day one. But that's your intention. I'll be pushing all the trainers and medical staff to do that.
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And so it sounds like you're ahead of schedule and things are going well and it seems to be that you're in a good headspace as far as this goes. Yeah, you have days that are good and bad. Like some days it's just super achy. Laying in bed sometimes it aches really bad and you're just like, oh my god, just stop aching so I can sleep. And then it's 85 degrees without air conditioning. This is the glorious Seattle. Yeah, exactly. Summer's in Seattle, low air conditioning.
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You know, it's a long process. It's been six weeks. I have at least seven more months. But, you know, just take it day by day. There's nothing I can do about it now, so why would I soul-compout?
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So it's a little cheesy, I'm sure. But there is this reality check moment, I assume, when you see your wife and son come in. And it's like, as bad as this might be. Yeah. It puts it in perspective. It puts it in perspective, right? Yeah. So both sides of that, I
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I get to see Liam grow up every day now, but then I get to miss the road trips and the good night's sleep, so it's like I miss those, but it's great to be around him all the time, unless it's 3.30 and he's wailing in the morning, but no, it's great. I know, it was funny. We had a little exchange in the locker room a few weeks ago.
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And you were saying, you were hanging out in the locker room and you made it pretty clear that you were killing time to avoid making sure your bedtime had gone through.
Soccer Team Culture and Anecdotes
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Making sure I can walk in and be like, oh, what do I need to do? Oh, he's always asleep. Oh, sorry. I had to support the guys at the game. Yeah, it was a big game. What a guy you say. Sorry. Next time, I'll be back sooner.
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So what is it like watching the game from a day? Is it is it give you perspective on the game as well? Like do you have you do you watch the game closely when you're not playing? Yes, I definitely have a lot more Perspective just being able to like sit back in a higher view and watch it and know like I'm not gonna be back next week I'm not gonna be back the next week. I'm not even gonna be back the next week. The whole year is a wash So the way I'm looking at is like
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How can I improve my spacing as a number nine? How can I evolve my game a little bit? I'll be 30 this year. So you know, I got to be smarter. Let's be realistic. Father time is not always on your side in this league. So just every little thing I can pick up on just.
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Watching I watch a lot more games now a lot more number nines Just see how they play what spacing what movements they do and just how they're so opportunistic You know, so it's it's definitely given me a different view And I think it's gonna make me better for when I come back smarter more efficient so like the million-dollar man domestic player
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quarter million dollar man. Who are the players you're watching that you are feeling like you're learning from? I don't have anybody specific right now that I've been watching.
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You know, I think when I look at Raoul, I think he's a great example of a number nine that, you know, sometimes he's not going to drop all the way back into midfield to be involved, build up, but in the box, oh, he's lethal. And I think that's something that you can't teach, you can't really coach, and that's something that positioning has a big
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Factor in and then obviously taking the chances but something like that is is better to watch now for me from a higher perspective as opposed to like being down on the field and watching because it's the views completely different. Yeah So it's that's been interesting for me
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So, Johnny Football, I'm guessing, is one of the players that you're watching closest. Because he's got the best, he's lining up the post playing career in the most obvious way. I told him I'd give him a nice shout out on the podcast. Okay, good. Soon to be named podcast. Soon to be named podcast.
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It's amazing you can't put a timer on that picture cuz like the way you jump into the bed and get Leo up there It's this is a process you can't nobody would be in the picture. Yeah, right Probably had like 200 pictures and was like this is the one
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my beard looks best here. It's impressive because you would think, if you didn't know he was
Social Media and Influencer Discussions
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a professional soccer player, you would think he's like an Instagram influencer. Honestly, I think he's an influencer because the way he is very meticulous on his posts.
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Yeah, like that post on the Chili Pad was like 200 words. He's probably loving that that's the second time we've said Chili Pad, too. Now, probably like a product that I don't quite know what it is. Apparently, it's not an air conditioner, though. That's what I got from the post. We got his whole sleep routine. We got his whole sleep routine. He gets his BPM down to 41.
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That's crazy. I mean, I roomed with him and I don't know if all those steps, he really does every night. Cause that's a very meticulous. That's what I'm saying. That's time. That's time. He's going to be so happy that we're spending so much time talking about him.
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Yeah, I would if I were him I would be very excited because this is some serious promo. Although maybe we can get him as a guest I think he might be that might be attainable. We'll have to see if that's if that's actually doable So have you learned any tips and trades in the trade from him? Has he been sharing like insider like the look if you want to become an Instagram or
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Superstar, this is what you gotta do. No, he holds his cards to his chest. He doesn't want other people coming for his glory. You know, and I respect that. Have you put yourself into position to at least get some free stuff? No, because I won't give him that enjoyment of saying Johnny Football, aka Johnny Lulu, give me free stuff. He would just get too much joy out of that. But he must get a lot of free stuff.
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I'm sure, I don't really ask. OK, well, I guess we can move on to other things. Speaking, I would like to think that this is something that's very much in the same vein as Johnny
Collective Bargaining and League Dynamics
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football. But one of the features on Sounder at Heart this year that I am particularly fond of is this feature where we look at the outfits that everyone is wearing. Are the players?
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Amping ramping up their game. Are they aware that we're talking about it? Are they aware that the sounders are like putting this out into the world? Were you aware were you aware? So I think here's what I think I can't verify but I think everybody's aware Okay, but people don't want to say they're aware so then it's just if you pay attention the trajectory of the outfits through the year have
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Slowly going up a little bit. People have been paying a little more attention to it. So I think it's good. And I'm sure the sounders released their four or five pictures of who they think looks best at best timing for that day. Is there anyone that's coming in looking like a slob every day and you just know that they're never going to make it into this? Honestly, not really.
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Is there anyone that you can tell is dressing up specifically for the game as opposed to how they show up to training? See, nobody steps out or stands out like too much to me that they're trying too hard. Okay. Even Brian Meredith. I think, no, that's just who he is. Okay, fair enough. And like he's, I think it was you guys that said he was like a 1940s news editor or something. Yeah. That was like, that's like one of the best descriptions of his style that I've
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I've seen. He's got it dialed in. I watched the All or Nothing on the Carolina Panthers on Prime Video. I'm convinced that like Cam Newton's like his idol for dressing.
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Nice. I haven't told him that, but now he knows. Well, yeah, I mean, Cam Newton is a... Yeah, I can see that. I think the hats. That's the hats. The hats, for sure. And so, do you... Like, are players... Like, not to get too deep into this, but are players... Are they getting tailored? Is this stuff that they're buying off the rack? No, I don't think. I don't think guys are getting tailored. I don't know for sure, maybe some are. But it's never crossed my mind to go get tailored. Maybe some guys it does, but...
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So you think it's mostly off the rack, but they're just smart about what they're buying Or they have simple that are smart about what they're buying Girlfriends wives that kind of yeah, I think they're smart about what they're what they're buying. I think everybody thinks their styles good Me I know I don't have the best style but
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That's OK. I mean, I don't know. You were featured, though. Do you think Hackem Johnny football hasn't come to you for tips on how to make that column yet? I think he's pretty modest. I think he wants to come to me for these tips, but he's kind of scared because I'm like the middle of their statesman. Right, right, right. So he'll understand. He'll grow wise and age.
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Yeah, I mean, I've been fascinated to watch this because I think the general level of togetherness, for lack of a better term, people are put together well. You don't see Danny Leyva showing up, 16-year-old kid. And is he the peak of style? So I do remember one person. I think this was last year. I think Chankham. Remember Felix Chankham? Yes, Felix Chankham. I think we signed him halfway through the year. He came in his first game. I don't remember the game or anything. Sweatpants.
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Like red sweatpants and like maybe socks and sandals. I'm not Not certain on that, but I remember that's the one that stands out. I'm like What you wearing here? So do you who's warning you that this is the first first team game you're coming to and you're right You just like rolled out of bed. Yeah So the other day someone on on Twitter shared a picture of the New England Revolution fine chart
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and it was things like, you know, it was like all the kind of kangaroo court type of stuff. I actually saw this. Maybe you retweeted something. Okay. So did the sounders having a quick, is this a common thing where like every team has internal fines for in theory? Yes. Okay. Good answer. But I told, I told my wife, Caitlin, she's not even over there. Um, I was like, I want to at the bar.
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But I said, I really want to respond to this and tweet just a white canvas and say, sounder's fine. Because we have a fine sheet. It doesn't get enforced.
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So what are some things on the theoretical fine sheet? Showing up like a slob to games, no jeans. So technically you're not allowed to wear jeans. And like every other picture is jeans. People wear colored jeans. People wear regular jeans. But then again, there's no enforcement on it. So we don't know where the line is. No, but the line should be no jeans. So there is a line. It's just that it's crossed. It's crossed and there's no
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Is it in theory made by the players, these roles? In theory? In theory. This is your team, lookit. Right. This is yours. So who is in charge of enforcing it then? That's the gray area. Oh, OK. So at the beginning of the year, Steph was the Admiral taking everybody's fines. I remember. That was like a big thing. It was good. I loved it. I paid my fine. What was your fine for?
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So I'm not sure I should have paid this fine because I don't think it was fine on the road. We you have to wear sounder skier to meals, but like there was like a last minute change. Schmetzer wanted to maybe change that. You all have to wear the same colored.
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Sounder shirt, okay, and we just got off the plane. We had to go do some activation something immediately off the plane to the hotel and then to meal And guys said both colored shirts and they decided that oh you had to be in I don't know either you're black or green and I had the other one on and Everybody has that other one all gets fined. So it was like I think fine. Yeah, exactly Some guys got actually pissed about it. I just kind of laughed at that. I was like, okay But I think that was like
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the point where where Steph was like I can't do this anymore because they're actually like if he doesn't collect it there's like no other authority that's gonna be like you pay your fine to Steph. I think the big question now is what's Steph doing with that money. That's what we're trying to figure out. So there was some money paid into this. So you think he's just pocketing the... I've been asking for my 20 back. I figured you guys would like throw a pizza party at the end of the year or something. There's still hope but we'll see.
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OK, so so the revs in any case are in your experience. This might be more of an outlook. I assume this was like standard practice. Yeah, I read it looked fun. The jury thing is fun. We did that in Houston one year. We had a wheel. So if you get fined, you spin the wheel and different things on the wheel were.
00:18:28
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like get out of jail free, don't pay your fine, you're fine triples, you're fine doubles. Thunderdome. Take it to court, Thunderdome. And then the court thing was fun, but it just turned into like political campaigning, like who can I get on my side. But I like their idea of pulling the three out of a hat because when Houston we did the whole locker room voted. And it just like it was fun the first few times and then it was like this is too much of an ordeal.
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And it became kind of like work. Yeah, it became a hassle. And we were just like, you're just taking your fine. Right. And everybody's like, depending on who it is, like, find them, find them, find them, or don't find them. And so, but theoretically, is this all supposed to go towards some common cause at the end of the year? Yeah, it just goes into a big bucket, and then it's like a team party at the end of the year.
00:19:13
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Yeah, well that all seems reasonably fair. And so we wanted to get into things that weren't just kind of interviewing you and more
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Like getting your thoughts on stuff. Talking, hanging out.
League's Cup and Its Impact
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Talking. So one of the big things that's coming up this last week is the CBA, as you are surely well aware, is coming up. And it's going to end at the end of this year. Hopefully, well, yeah, I think everyone hopes that it's going to be you'll have a new CBA by the time the season starts and won't be any time missed. I think it's best for both sides to make sure we have one. Yeah, right.
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So what's your temperature gauge on this? When you go into this thing, are you watching it closely? Are you letting other people take charge of it? Or are you in Harry's ear? Harry's ship, I guess, is your rep, right? Yeah, he's one of our reps. Who's the other rep? I know Brian's a rep, and then I think Christian's the other rep. Oh, so you have three reps? Three reps. Yeah, each team has three reps. And then I think each team gets one rep to go to the table, and Harry's the rep that goes to the table.
00:20:18
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but no I'm just active like passively watching because if I see here something see something I think is ridiculous I tell Harry but you know I haven't seen that yet I think everything's pretty realistic I know it's getting kind of like the charter flights are getting blown up a lot
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Yeah, it's nice and convenient. I think there should be, if you have a layover, you should automatically have to charter. And I think that should just be the norm. But unfortunately, all teams won't do that. But I still think focuses needs to be on player rights, just in general. The whole single entity thing is always in their back pocket. So just my two cents.
00:20:59
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So, okay, you mentioned charters, and my understanding was the last negotiations, charters were another thing that were on the table, and basically came down to like, well, either we can pay for charters, or we can put that money into the salary cap. That's kind of how it still is. Right. And that's why I think the league, I think, actually, we got to see the books this year for the first, between CBA's for the first time, so now we kind of- That seems like pretty significant. Yeah, it is, so we kind of know,
00:21:28
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they can't just be like, oh, we found this Tam game. Thank you, ma'am. And you can have 25 charter flights now. So now we know what they're kind of working with. And I'm for just always putting that excess money towards the player pool. And I think the big thing this year is.
00:21:44
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the TAM and the GAM just getting rid of it and saying, here is your whole circle of money. Each team, spend it till you win. You don't have to use this for certain players. You don't have to use that for certain players. My read on this, and I don't know if I ever heard anyone quite articulate it this way, but it doesn't seem that hard to read into this, is that
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you know, the salary cap was what it was this last time. And then magically, all this extra money appeared. That's what I'm saying. Don't think that'll happen this time. Right. OK. And so is and would you say that was that's how the players felt was that it was like, wait a minute, you told us you didn't have more money and now you have two million dollars you can spend however you want.
00:22:21
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Yeah, I think how you can spend in very specific ways. Yes, very specific players. I think guys were just like, what? Where did this come from? You've been so tight about everything, talking about how you're on such a big budget this whole time. Right. And then, oh, after it's signed, like two minutes after it's signed, oh, we found all this money. Here you go. I don't think that'll happen this year, but then again, I'm not in the meetings and on the front line, so I'm not sure.
00:22:50
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So is that a realistic, so it sounds like one of the goals of the unit is to effectively get rid of that kind of money and just put it into, take the strings off of it and say, look, if you want $2.2 million or whatever it is to spend, that's great, we would love for you to spend that money, but we want it to be available to every player on the roster, not just five players. 100%, you see how,
00:23:17
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I think it's slowly evolving that way. You see some teams put a lot of money towards the front 11 of their roster. Injuries happen. What are you going to do on the bottom 11? This is why I think bringing up young guys, getting the academy going, how the Sounders are getting the academy going is good. But you need teams that do spend it on the top.
00:23:38
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11, seven, whatever, and then kind of evenly keel it through the rest and just like, you know, go down, not like a huge drop off, but like significantly go down a little bit per spot. I think that those teams will do best, but taking away the
00:23:57
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rules and regulations of how you can spend this money and you can, this guy makes this much and you can buy him down with Tam using this and he'll only count against this as a salary budget. Just give him a number and just say, Hey, you can end the year doing, I don't know. Let's just say, and throw a number out there, 15 million, whatever you pay each player, that's what they go against cap. Right? Like, why is there all this hidden money that needs to be
00:24:24
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Because that way it's black and white. That way you can't hide things. And I think that's the league still. It's just like, well, we still are growing. We want to get guys here without people properly knowing how we're getting them here. And then we can count them against the cap for this.
00:24:37
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They account for $4.50 against the cap. They make $25 million on paper. Yeah, I mean, it does seem like one of those. I mean, it is a funny thing, because you look at the salary cap, and it's $4.6 million, or whatever the salary cap is. But then you look at how much you just add up the numbers of what the payment is. You've got players making more than team salary cap.
00:24:56
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Right, you got players and every team is spending I want to say like double what the salary cap is and that's like every team and so clearly there's the money is there but they're just being very picky about how they want to spend it on which players they want to spend it on. Yeah, exactly.
00:25:12
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Yeah, at the end of the day, they're like, it's our money. We can spend it how we want. I can't really talk about that. That's not a great negotiating tactic. Yeah, I know. If you're going into that attitude, maybe. Well, I'll be 30 in October.
00:25:27
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whether I want to get into the front office side or the coaching side. I think it's things to start thinking about. Yeah, absolutely. So one of the things I'm sure will be on this CBA is the league's cup. We saw the debut of it this last, I guess last week. And it was, I don't know, what was the player react? What was your reaction to like, if you had had to play in the league or if you had to play in the league's cup last week, what do you think your attitude about that would have been?
00:25:56
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Personally not the greatest You know, these are just added games right into the middle of an already grueling schedule, which is shortened this year So it's like the timing of it. It's like what MLS Cup is November 10th this year, right? Previously it was December 11th. Now you're gonna add more games into a condensed schedule I just some decisions. I don't understand as my eyes light up with money symbols, right? But you know, it's
00:26:23
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It's good. I think it's good. In theory, it's good. And I'm sure if you ask the MX teams, they probably don't want to play any of the players. Right. So especially since they have to travel all like they don't have any home games. Yes. I think the bonuses are going to have to be pretty pretty hefty to get guys to.
00:26:38
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really compete like win bonuses So we'll just see how it plays out. Is that something that the coaches end up kind of communicating at all with players or is it just like they try to take that part of out of it and they just say this is a game and our goal is to win or is there like
00:26:55
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a back and forth of saying like, look, I get it guys. You're not getting a bonus for this game. My job does not depend on this game. We get what this, we understand what this is. This is the way I would look at it. And I think the way the Sounders will look at it is this is a game. This is a game we want to win. You know, I think every time we play, we don't just line up to say, uh, because when you're actually on the field and playing, you want to win. It's not like, uh, why am I playing this game? Sort of poor me.
00:27:22
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And at the end of the day, every time you're on the field, it's an opportunity to impress if you're not starting, if you are starting. So I think the more minutes are good for the bottom ends or however teams line up of rosters and things like that just will kind of play out.
00:27:40
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Yeah, I mean it does seem like it like this game like when I look at it as a viewer I look at this series as I know like this first year seemed pointless I don't understand why they rule it out this way I don't understand why you just pick four random teams and have them pay Play these games with there's no context to it, right? It's just games and
00:28:00
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Next year, there's qualifying. I think it's still... I don't like it as a journalist in a... Look, it's not a real tournament unless League of MMQ's teams are hosting games.
00:28:13
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But at least you see the building of a real competition. And if you have it built in the CBA, there's some incentives potentially for the players to care about it. But for me, I still want to see, why are you playing these games? It's not the stated reasons. It's not because, well, it's another chance for us to line up.
00:28:36
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The Galaxy, who are the only team left, could win it this year. No one's going to sit here and say, oh, well, MLS is now better than Elite League MX. Exactly. I think it's a glorified Champions League. Is it a glorified Champions League? To me, I look at it as a lower-quality champion. Well, that's kind of what I meant by it. Right, OK. OK, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, sorry. Whereas teams will take Champions League so much more serious. And then this is, I think, the way MLS probably looks at it, to be like, hey, this is our team.
00:29:05
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chance to kind of get a bunch of wins on home soil against the MX teams. You know what I mean? Yeah. Because MOS still has not won Champions League. Right. So they could win a Campiones Cup and say, this is champion known as Cup.
Mike Pecky Controversy
00:29:23
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So one of the things that, like, probably the biggest story to come out of this thing, aside from the cat, which I don't know how much of you are aware of the cat starring as you. Oh, I can see some things. Yeah, so there was a cat that got on the field for RSL.
00:29:35
Speaker
but somehow Mike Peck he managed to upstage the cat by absolutely losing his mind with the referee apparently following the referee into the or meeting the referee in the in the tunnel
00:29:51
Speaker
Like, I'm sure... It's probably frustration. Yeah, I mean... For the whole thing as a whole. Right, to me, I mean, that's what it's kind of felt like... Just boiling over. Right, like, he was putting on a good face of wanting to be in this tournament, but he really didn't want to be there. It was kind of like the Clerks thing, where you... Like, I'm not even supposed to be here. Yeah. Why is this happening to me? And then, it just snaps. It snaps! Do you feel bad for him? Do you feel like there's no defending him? I see both sides.
00:30:21
Speaker
I won't say I feel bad with him because he had time to regroup and settle down instead of following in. I think there's a fine line between being passionate and fiery and being dumb. And I think that was just a little over the top.
00:30:37
Speaker
Yeah, just a little, a wee bit. But he's getting, what, three game, three league game suspension, big fine. Yeah, and he's not allowed to have contact with the team for a couple weeks. He's having to go to anger management. Yeah.
00:30:52
Speaker
I don't know, it would be interesting. It seems like it's a pretty serious thing, and I'm inclined, when you see the tape, you're inclined to laugh about it, but on the other hand, it goes way beyond the level of appropriateness. Siggy had some epic meltdowns with referees, but he never really crossed that line of turning it into personal.
00:31:18
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, I think it's a little much, just a little. But he's getting this fine. That's one thing we don't know. They don't release what coaches make or anything, so you don't know what that fine is in comparison to a salary. So I think it's a harsh statement, because that means it's going to be a tournament going forward. Right.
00:31:45
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, and it does. It does. I wonder how much of that kind of weighs on. You know, at least I look at it and go like this is one of the risks of playing in an unnecessary. They didn't have to play these games this year. The games were just scheduled a few like a month ago.
00:32:01
Speaker
and I think it does kind of cast a Like a reminder on the people who are making these schedules that it's like there is a Potential like they act like there's no downside to playing these games But there is a downside like and he's that's not someone getting injured, but it's a player gets injured. That's the same kind of thing exactly you know you play these games and say
00:32:24
Speaker
you will play one of your starters 45 minutes, tell them, hey, this is equivalent to a training that you would be doing today. We're going to run you out 45 minutes. You're putting them at risk for unknown players coming in for tackles that could be potentially really bad or pulling muscles and things like that. But that's the risk you got to take, I guess.
00:32:44
Speaker
I mean at least and maybe I'm wrong but to me like a friendly is different in that if you're gonna play for 45 minutes it's still a friendly like guys are trying to prove themselves and there's some of that but but you know deep down it's it's League MX or MLS right you know there's like it's never really a friendly right never really a friendly right so and I think maybe as the tournament evolves it'll get more competitive and more fiery but
00:33:14
Speaker
I mean, if they keep adding games into a condensed schedule already, I don't know. OK. Well, this is probably a good place to do a break.
Transition to Casual Topics
00:33:21
Speaker
We're going to come back, and we're going to talk about some stuff that's maybe not so sports-centric. Hey, there we go. It's chitchat. And have some chitchat. And you're listening to the unnamed Will Blern show. Soon to be named. Soon to be named, sorry.
00:33:45
Speaker
Welcome back to the still to be named Wheelboard Run podcast. Soon to be named. Soon to be named. Thank you. I like that you're saying it like it's the name. Yeah, well, it could be. It could be. It might stick. You never know. It might stick. All right, so we wanted to give you a chance to talk about some non-soccer stuff.
Bigfoot Sightings and Light-hearted Conversation
00:34:06
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And I want to start with this, because you were extremely excited about it. Some Sasquatch thing.
00:34:15
Speaker
I just threw a curveball and talked about the thing you weren't so excited about. I don't know if I'd say excited, I'd just say interested. You were like into it though. So last night I was laying in bed trying to cool off from it being 105 degrees in my bedroom. You only had a chili pad. Yeah. Johnny football. But now I was going through Twitter, I saw CNN article about how somebody spotted a Bigfoot in Kentucky.
00:34:42
Speaker
And I was like, that was a CNN article. The topic when I saw a couple sees Bigfoot in Kentucky, I just kind of laughed at the title. Then I read that read the article and I was like, oh, my gosh, this guy like sounded like he was on drugs. But they got me thinking like I went to like a YouTube dark hole of looking up Bigfoot sightings. And I can only imagine the rabbit hole you went down. Yeah. And then I got like sweaty because it was so hot and I keep I'm going to keep beating that down. But
00:35:13
Speaker
He's begging you, Johnny. Like, just get him a chili thing. A chili pad or whatever it's called. Get the poor guy. It sounds like it would be hot, chilly. It does. I don't know why. I think it's felt C-H-I-L-I. I do. I think you're right. It actually seems poor brand. But anyways, we're not going to give Johnny football any more. Right. Any more joy. But this begs the question. Do you believe in Bigfoot?
00:35:40
Speaker
Are you asking? Yeah. No. Are you intrigued? I'm intrigued. I'm intrigued. There's probably a species out there that we haven't seen, but I don't know. Like a human size mammal that's just chilling in the forest. It's just a bald bear. Exactly.
00:35:59
Speaker
Yeah, I don't know It's like one of those things I want to believe in but I just don't believe yeah, like I don't I have a heart why everybody still talked about
00:36:13
Speaker
Yeah, I mean it's it's tough for me to believe in that stuff just because I'm kind of a big believer in if I like I want to be able to see it and Like I just feel like we would have caught one by now Kind of like Loch Ness Monster. Yeah, but the dark hole I went down you see all these bigfoots But they're just dark shadows in the woods, right? Well, those sound like maybe people on meth. Yeah, exactly Harry Harry people
00:36:43
Speaker
So you've learned what it's like. I don't know if the mics are picking it up, but there's a baby in the background. Yeah. It's your baby, in fact. Yeah, well, that one's not. That's the other baby. Oh, it's the other baby. But it's your baby's friend. Mine's over there, yeah. Yeah. My baby's already got more friends over there. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. I got to get him in the academy.
Parenting Challenges and Humor
00:37:02
Speaker
So how is it like, you know, you've now been a father for what, six months? Almost. I'm waiting. Apparently six months is like the holy grail of,
00:37:12
Speaker
the sleep schedule from over here. Just give me hope at the end of the tunnel. The sleep schedule is definitely the thing that has you most intrigued. Yeah, he sees four and a half months. Your wife's shaking her head right now. Yeah, exactly. She's like, you have no idea what it's like. My wife yesterday, yesterday I'll just share this little story.
00:37:45
Speaker
They don't sit there and cry consistently for an hour. No, they don't. No, absolutely not. Well, not an hour. Then I sound like that. No, they don't do that. 25 minutes. They don't do any of that. They fall back asleep. So it's different. It's totally different. And you're right. It helps a lot when they, at least are not, there's not this sense of helplessness. And I think that's a little, especially when you're a first time parent, there is this overwhelming sense of helplessness of like, is this what everyone goes through? Because this is, how does anyone live? Yeah.
00:38:09
Speaker
And it doesn't, and there doesn't seem to be, and when you're the first time parent, there's no end in sight because you don't know any better. That's why I'm saying like, just give me six months. Let that be the light at the end of the tunnel. And I'm sure it's not, but. No, but it is, kind of. You need like small victories. Yeah, I think that's fair. You can look at six months. But anyway, my, to talk about your wife giving you a dirty look, yesterday, last night, my wife. That's not considered a dirty look. I've had much worse than that.
00:38:37
Speaker
My daughter woke, my youngest daughter wakes up for the second time, it's 2 a.m., and she was not feeling well. And my wife says, can you go check on her bed to make sure there wasn't like a mess? Because she wet herself, right? And she's got a diaper on or whatever. So I go in there, this is my, I hope my daughter listens to this someday. And before I went, I was like, ugh, I rolled my eyes and I was just like, god damn it.
00:39:05
Speaker
And like, I don't want to do this. It's 2 AM. And she's like, don't start with me. And it's like, well, that wasn't targeted at you. And she's like, I don't care. I don't want to hear any complaints. I'm up. I'm dealing with this. All I ask is you're going to do one little thing. And it's just like a good reminder that moms almost across the board put up with way more. Oh my god. Yeah, so much more. It's crazy. I don't know how they operate. I'm sure a lot of dads can, you know,
00:39:53
Speaker
if I wait her out she'll get up and go and then like oh that's that's underhanded but then the next but then the next time I'm like oh you need me to go get him act like super dead so it's like it's a double-edged sword and I'm sure she's gonna hear it know my secrets but she already does anyways yeah they don't they notice they know all that stuff
00:40:09
Speaker
I mean, it's so what has been for you? Like, has there been any eye opening moments of because I know when we like six months ago, when we were talking about this, you had this whole plan of like, oh, like, I think you kind of envisioned this idea of like, it'll give me a good excuse to get out of the house. Yeah. And and it would have been a great excuse. Now they're all here. Now they're all here. And we're ruining our plan. Yeah. God.
00:40:30
Speaker
What have been the biggest surprises for you? Would you say you know you've learned things about being a dad yet? My patience has gotten a lot better. I still had pretty good patience at the beginning, but now it's like, okay, because they're literally dependent on you for life. They're a baby.
00:40:50
Speaker
I didn't really think how much you have to entertain them, how much you have to plan your schedule around their naps, and they're sleeping, and they're eating, and even if you just want to go out for a little bit during the day, you have to take 10 minutes to pack the bag and get them in the car. That's getting out of the house. Yeah, it's a process. It's a process. It's a process. But it's all part of the routine now. Would you say you're actually getting good at some of these things? Are you a good diaper changer?
00:41:17
Speaker
better than I was. I wouldn't say good because actually, yeah, I might say good. Good. I haven't had a leakage on mine yet. Good. I haven't had a blow out of mine, maybe once or twice of them being mine. But yeah, like when he lets it go, he lets it go. They're like held up or they're held in for a while. So I don't think any diaper could save it. But I call those Chernobyl diapers. Yes, sir. You saw him on the HBO series. But now he's been he's been good and
00:41:48
Speaker
Changing diapers, like, easy now. You gotten peed on yet? Me? Not so much. Caitlin's been peed on a lot. But we make eye contact, and I'm like, don't you do it? Don't you do it. How many times you get out of the house with the, you know, the. Oh, yeah, that's like every time. Like my left left shoulder always just says drool.
00:42:06
Speaker
constantly Which that's fine with me. So are you not pee? Are you finding have you found that the other sounder that your sounders teammates are good? advice givers or they mostly full of bad ideas So who else has a newborn yeah, does anyone know one really has newborn no, but they've all been a lot of dads but You know, it's all pretty much
00:42:33
Speaker
It's all relative. They all agree with the things I say. And they try to give me pointers on things. But I'm just like, every baby's different. Every baby's going to sleep different. You know what I actually think? That's a really good perspo. That's a big realization, I think, is realizing that. Like what works for your baby. Right. Because it's not like a million. You can have a million dads that have a million different experiences. Exactly.
00:42:54
Speaker
So I think just kind of learning as you go has been important but You know, he's as much as he'll cry and whine at night and when you get him up in the morning that first smile You're like god damn it All right. Come on, buddy. Yeah, come on Yeah, no, I hear ya. So have you been able to have you been able to maintain and if you're you were a you're a pop culture enthusiast am I
00:43:18
Speaker
I don't know. You like watching shows. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Is there any sandwiches too, right? Yes. Yeah. I watch Finding Bigfoot. No, I'm just kidding. I actually started watching Billions on Showtime. I don't know if you guys have seen that. Billions is the one where they. Billions is the one where they are investigating the it's like the Axelrod. Yes. Yes. I saw the first season, but I'm not watch maintained it.
00:43:44
Speaker
Well, I mean, now it's like when we put him down, we have time to kill before like the dream feed. So it's just like, we'll watch. And then we stick on one show and it's like hard to get her to watch a show with me. So I'm like, I just got to dig my claws and we got to watch this. It's like almost done with the four seasons. We're about three and a half in. Oh, billions. Yeah, billions. It's a good show. Sometimes I'm a little bored, but overall pretty good.
00:44:07
Speaker
Yeah, anything else that you're into right now? Did you finish Game of Thrones? I did, yeah. Have you caught up? I literally watched it all in preseason and then I saw the last season live.
00:44:18
Speaker
And you watched the last season live? Yeah. I don't know that we've had a chance to talk about this. Did you have a grand take on the finale, the way they went out? I just thought it was like meh. I had people tell me, that's the worst hour of my life watching this. And I don't think it was that bad. I think they could have made it two seasons almost.
00:44:44
Speaker
give it some air. Put more detail into the stories, individual stories, but you know, is what it is. The Hound is still my guy and I'm sad about that. Yeah, did you feel like the Hound got the proper send off? It looked a little too CGI to me, but I was happy with how he wings. You knew he was going to go. Right, he kind of had to. So that was that was fine, but
00:45:10
Speaker
It seems like forever ago. It does seem like it was a lifetime ago. I don't think any of them tore their ACL on the show, did they? No, I don't think anyone tore their ACL. Dang it. Yeah, that would have been quite the ending of the hound. The hound is just like, yes. Ah, he really hurt my knee. He tries to turn and run away from the mountain. And he's like, ah. Right. That would have been. Falls off the side. Right. That would have been great. That would have been my ideal ending, looking back on it now.
00:45:37
Speaker
Yeah, so do you find that the baby is enhancing like is it make you more inclined to like binge shows or is it hard is it just too
Parenthood Reflections Post-Injury
00:45:47
Speaker
hard to keep up with?
00:45:47
Speaker
It's like, for me, I can't really sit and like binge him. I'll watch like one or two and be like, all right, that's enough for today slash tonight. Um, but it's definitely given us more time to sit down and watch a show. Cause if we're not napping when he's napping, then we're sitting down waiting for him to wake up. I mean, I guess it's, it is kind of an interesting thing because on one hand you have less time with the baby, but I'm guessing the knee has given you more time. Yeah. It's like, uh,
00:46:14
Speaker
You know, now I get to see him grow up the rest of the year. I do miss the road trips and the nice bed to yourself and quiet, good sleep.
00:46:23
Speaker
I'd rather see him grow up through all these stages because it happens so fast at the early ages. I've noticed him. He's already rolling over both ways. I think he's going to be crawling relatively soon, which people say six months is early. It is, yeah. When we put him down in bed, he makes his way to the end. He can't stay in one spot. So I don't know that there's any evidence, any actual research to back this up. But my theory is that the earlier they crawl, the later they walk, because they're less inclined to
00:46:53
Speaker
And so they're like happy that they can crawl now. Right, because once they can crawl, it's like the need to walk. Why would I walk? Right. So I don't know. We'll see how that. Yeah, we'll see. So we got a few questions from some listeners or potential listeners. The Twitterverse? Yeah, the Twitterverse.
Race Pacing Advice
00:47:10
Speaker
And some of these are pretty good. So I wanted to ask you a few of them. This one's from John Gregson. He says, I'm training for my first 50K. I don't know if you've ever done a 50K is like a marathon.
00:47:24
Speaker
I'm utilizing the will Bruins subbed off with a lead pace Where did he learn that skill and is it appropriate for me to slow down further by stopping to shake hands with fellow runners as I encounter
00:47:39
Speaker
Well, first of all, it depends on if you're on pace for your time. Right. If you're ahead of schedule with your time, you can kind of chill out, drink some water, hang out, watch the guys pass, look for Bigfoot. But if you're behind schedule, you don't have that luxury. You can't waste that much time. Right. But this all stems back to my rookie year, playing for Dom Keneer. Yeah, he just tell you. Subbed off. I sprinted off on the road. On the road, we're winning.
00:48:07
Speaker
Right when I get there, he shakes my hand, gives me a smile. He's like, don't fucking sprint off when we're winning. I'm just like, oh my god, I'm sorry. So it's kind of just stuck with me, something like that. I love down to death, great guy. But my first year, I was so scared of him. I was like, oh, sorry, sorry, sir, sorry.
00:48:27
Speaker
So now I just take my time, given this, like, if we're losing, I'll hurry off. But if we're winning, take my time, shake hands, kiss babies, you know? Yeah. Do you have an internal clock saying, like, I need to spend this much time getting off the field? So here's the secret. Like, if I know we're winning 1-0 or 2-1 or something, and I see the player at the half, and I know they're coming off for me, I walk as far the other way as I can. And then I act like I mess with my shin guards. Oh, me?
00:48:54
Speaker
You're subbing me off? Why would you do such a thing? And then I just mosey on over, and the ref always comes like, he's like, come on, Will, give me a little jog. And that's when you just move your arms. Just keep your hands moving the same, or keep your legs moving the same pace. But let's just let you get the arms going. It looks like you're moving faster. And they're always like, thanks, thanks. Oh my god, yeah, I got you. So is there like an internal count to when they say, come on, Will, and then you're like, do the thing, and then you're like, one, two? No.
00:49:19
Speaker
There is no internal count, but I try to go as slow as possible without being obnoxious. But I like being obnoxious. I feel like you've had a couple particularly funny exchanges with refs during your sub-off where they've
00:49:34
Speaker
where you've exchanged a few pleasantries with them. Has any exchange ever stood out to you with someone who either got really a giraffe or a player that got really frustrated, or someone that just really got what was going on? Well, the best is when the players get frustrated on the opposing team, because then that gives you more time. Because then you're just like, what are you doing?
00:49:56
Speaker
But the best refs are always like, come on, we know what you're doing. Just like, hurry it up. Give me a little jog. I don't want to card you. And then when everyone usually whenever they do that, you're like, they know what I'm doing. But usually they always know what you're doing. But it just depends on what you can get away with. Right. Yeah. You hope you hope the players get mad. So what are you doing? Don't touch me, bro.
00:50:16
Speaker
Just turns into a whole ordeal. So was there like a, I'm sure like everyone else at CenturyLink Field, you were really annoyed with Brian Fernandez coming, or I'm sorry, Sebastian Blanco, when he came off. Yeah. Because that was like epically long. I believe that he changed who they're bringing off like two or three times. Which that's crazy to me. Once you give your card, I don't think you should be able to change it. Because then that's blatantly changing. Right. I didn't quite understand that one either. And the fourth official should know that that's what he's doing and add more time. Right.
00:51:19
Speaker
I was like coming down from the From the press box and stuff and going in the back way to the locker room And I just heard the stories about guys yelling at each other and stuff and I heard it was like their their GM President and stuff and me it's just like okay. There's just no like
00:51:53
Speaker
I don't know, to pick a team out of the hat, FC Dallas. But it seems like this is that, do you genuinely feel like this is a little bit for show, or is it like, no, there's genuine dislike here? See, I wasn't on the field for that, and the feeling I got was that was just genuine dislike. OK.
00:52:15
Speaker
like that wasn't like let's put on a show act like we hate each other sort of thing uh-huh you saw the tackles Kim was throwing first of all for me I should have had 100% had a red card I don't understand how that wasn't even a retroactive ring that's what I'm saying like I don't my mind it does so I am happy that Kim stood up for himself and tried to get him twice
00:52:34
Speaker
like as a forward, I love seeing my center backs do that. I love it because it happens to me and I'm just like, I just love watching forwards get kicked. Even better is that he was smart about it. He did it when it wasn't like in the blocks or anything. No, he kind of waited and just, ugh. But no, it was good. And I loved that.
Locker Room Dynamics and Camaraderie
00:53:07
Speaker
you must have played at least a minute because you maybe I warmed up too hard or something yeah cuz I feel like I know I talked to you after the game and I don't know if I would have talked to you unless there was some reason but I guess maybe it was just right I don't know right exactly I would never I didn't quote you maybe it was right I was just like yeah maybe I was just being polite but like that was like seeing the funniest thing Romantra running off the field running just so he could wait yeah
00:53:36
Speaker
did he wait I don't know there's actually pictures of him waiting in the locker room everyone I've heard said that outside like he got he no getting a fine for this so I guess he there's a fine for just standing outside the locker well I don't know there's a fine for standing there but there's not a retroactive red card for scissoring somebody right that kind of shit blows my mind
00:53:55
Speaker
I am totally with you on that. So this one's from Carl Nelson. I'm curious about what it's like to be out for months like you are. Are you still showing up to games? Are you going to team meetings? Or are you more like doing this stuff on your own?
00:54:29
Speaker
Blue Angels? Blue Angels. Yeah, but, you know, I do my work when I can. Like, I'm not gonna get in the way of guys that have, you know, small injuries or need treatment leading up to play on the weekend. I understand that. I'm not stupid. I'm not gonna say, hey, give me the attention. I've got 52 more months. But I just think it's...
00:54:53
Speaker
Well, she's taking a picture of us as we're doing it now. This is going to go on Instagram? Oh, god. See, let's all look. You know Caitlin's Instagram. That's the place where it is. Johnny Football follows Caitlin. Yeah, exactly. Johnny Football aspires to be. Yes, absolutely. Kate A. Cox Instagram. Yes, absolutely.
00:55:33
Speaker
Well, speaking of that, we're veering from the question, but speaking of that, I'll be thinking something, and then it'll pop up as an ad on Instagram. Yes, absolutely. I'm just like, this is creepy. Yeah. Your phone's listening, too, right? It's usually chilly. It's usually chilly. It's chili pads. Chili pads. Chili burgers. I'm going to get so many Bigfoot ads now.
00:55:55
Speaker
No, I want to be around the guys and you know, it's going to, it's a process. So why would I isolate myself and do it by myself? So you're, you're feeling like you're still part of the team. Yeah, for sure. And that was like the main thing with the rehab. I was like, don't tell me to come in at one o'clock when everybody leaves. I still want to be in normal time, act like I'm still on my normal routine, act like nothing really happened. And
00:56:19
Speaker
It's just an extended holiday. But is most of your rehab going on at Starfire then? Yeah, all of it's at Starfire with the training staff. Honestly, it's a lot more intense so far than I anticipated that it would be. And just learning to walk again, learning to contract my quad again, learning to even just plank and raise my
00:57:04
Speaker
knowing that you know how to walk. But then you have to learn it. You have to learn how to do it again. It was really weird. My gait and walk is getting better now, but there were times early on when I would just be like, oh, I'm crushing this. And the quad just gives out. You kind of buckle over, and you're like, Jesus. So this is a question that I honestly can only assume is inspired by something they saw.
00:57:26
Speaker
you doing. But I don't know this. Her head whipped up real quick. Right. What I do. Usually it's not good. This is from Justin Sisk. Justin B. Sisk. Are rowing machines worth it? And would you consider a rowboat a rowing machine? Have you done rowing? Is this something you're into? No, that's a normal question. No. Rowing machines, I've done them before. What is a rowboat? Canoe?
00:57:52
Speaker
and I don't know if I think of a robot is like you got two you got two oars and you're and she your wife and child are in the front and you're just hanging out drinking a margarita and I'm doing everything on the back
00:58:10
Speaker
She said, is that a kayak? I mean, if you're going to say two people, I don't think it's the same thing. I think a rowing machine just solely on your own. Yeah. You're putting in the work on the machine. You can change the resistance. If you're in a row boat, you're given what the ocean or lake is giving you. OK. You can't control the resistance. No, you can't. And you've got two people. Exactly. So are you a rowing machine official? Do you like rowing machines? No. No. They're awful,
Exercise Preferences and Rowing Machines
00:58:34
Speaker
right? Yeah. Where did this come from? I don't know. That's why it felt very random. If you had to pick a rowing machine or elliptical.
00:58:39
Speaker
Oh. Me? I don't I don't mess around with any of this stuff. I don't like either of them. Exactly. Yeah. No, it's just, you know, food for thought. It is good food for thought. My thing lately has been walking. Walking? Yeah. So we're on the same rehab plan. Exactly. Yeah. I've been. Yeah, his been going on for. Yeah, my long term. He's walking marathons now. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So.
00:59:08
Speaker
I don't know. This was, I think, a good shot at an initial episode. You got some of the names that people have suggested on there. Oh. We can kind of maybe touch on that a little bit. Wow, that would be, I can, we could do, what was, like, you know, it was finding, there's a lot of plays on bears, a lot of plays on. Just the generic ones, you think. Yeah, I mean. I really still like the, we will find a name next episode podcast.
00:59:38
Speaker
that's not bad I also like was the one you had the kid was about a
00:59:59
Speaker
They sponsor Johnny Lululemon, Chili Pad, Campbell. Wait a minute. Fat Boys sponsored Johnny football? No, no. Oh, I was going to say, that's like a cold, cold move. He's always the... Oh, somebody said, I saw his wife's Insta of him cleaning the roof or something. Oh, yeah. He making house calls? Someone did ask that, yes.
01:00:23
Speaker
Oh yeah, you've got access to all these questions too. You don't need to rely on me. Yeah, are you doing housework? Caitlin says she does a lot more of the housework. I believe it. Like? Oh no. Do you want to come on and defend yourself?
01:00:46
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You what? You can't hear over the blue angels. Yeah, you're gonna have to come over here. Did you say you plant things? Come on. She plants things. Yeah. Oh no, I think she said plants things. Oh, plants things. Oh my gosh. She waters the grass. She does so much more. She bows the lawn. She did it once. You've done all this stuff once when I had a torn ACL and couldn't get off the couch. This is, I love, this is good stuff. This is good.
01:01:15
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Spousal banter You your neighborhood has eight houses in it in Springport, Indiana 15 my bad. Sorry the true Midwest, right? Wow, this is got good She knows that I'll just crush her on the mic that was I don't know how much of that was picked up on the mics But Caitlin's got they've got banter
01:01:41
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And I got to say, I feel like all these names are like somehow a lot of saying brewing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Frank DeBoer blowing it. That's a bear in the woods I thought was kind of or a Sasquatch in the woods. Yeah, you go. Where is Bigfoot? Where's Bigfoot would be a good podcast name. Pick up a lot of stray.
01:02:05
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I think the running joke of the first episode was Bigfoot, so maybe we should play something of that into the title. We could do that. You don't seem like you like it so much like it. I'm thinking about it. Yeah, we might be able to work that into a shirt.
01:02:22
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But anyway, thanks for hanging out with us. No, it'll only be six months before episode two, but. Yeah, no, now it's going to roll. It'll just be easy. Yeah, two months. Now they've seen it first game. She's like, oh, you guys, you got to do this. This is going to be your life. Yeah, I got nothing else to do. Caitlin did not seem very amused by that proposal.
01:02:48
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Next time I can bring Liam, we can do it. She says next time he can babysit and she can be on the show. Yeah. Right? Yeah, that's what I heard. We can talk about all the housework she does. You'll have about a two minute show with the intro. Oh my gosh. Wow. Dang, two children. I think one of those children is you, Will. No, Molly's over there. Can you see that? Oh, two kids. The other one's a dog. Yeah.
01:03:17
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Well, thank you for listening. Will, I hope this was fun for you. Lick it. Do you have fun? Of course. It's always fun to hang out on a Thursday afternoon. All my days run together now is the rehab. At Optimum Brewing. Weekends mean nothing, I bet.
01:03:34
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No. My whole career has been like, all right, let's focus for the weekend. Now it's like, all right, I just got rehab again. Yeah. And like a year ago you would have gone to the movies or something. Now, no movies. A year ago I would have watched a movie on like Netflix or
01:03:54
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HBO now or billions or now you can't even came to that now No, you can't commit to a movie. I literally just like sit in a glass box of emotion Well, that's a good that's that should be the end that should be that's a good tagline tour a glass box of emotion that could be the name That's good because it's a bunch of banter it's like
01:04:21
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Yeah, we talk soccer and stuff, but it's a lot of everyday stuff that people can relate to. I like that. All right. Well, that's a good place to end it. I'm Jeremiah O'Shan. I'll sign off on behalf of Will Bruin and Lick It, and we'll see you next time. Adios.