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Speaker: Do you feel drawn to learn more about witchcraft and the occult, but feel lost on where to start? Then welcome to Get In, Loser, We're Doing Witchcraft, a podcast all about what it means to be a witch and where to get started on your journey. Join us as we navigate through various witchy topics and share what we have learned about the craft. So get in witches and welcome to the third episode in our Spooktober series where we discuss spooky folklore. Spooky, spooky, spooky.
Speaker: It's so itchy. I'm itchy too and I have no reason to be itchy. Like I don't have a tattoo. Like maybe it's just dry skin. I don't know because it is getting, unfortunately for you, it's getting colder here for me, but I know it's like a thousand degrees there in Illinois, but I think. Yeah. So the, the high today keeps bumping up. Like we're up to 97 for the high now. It was 94 when we first got on.
Speaker: So just in like this hour, it's gone up to now 97 as a high. Yeah. I don't like that. No, it's just, it's so close to October. Why is it so hot? I know Anthony's always like the first day of fall is not until the 22nd fall comes on my birthday. Stop trying to end summer, but it's the witches Thanksgiving today, Anthony. So stop literally. I need a.
Speaker: Um, figure out, well, we're doing like trifecta right now, so we don't really have like food to make. Cause we just pop these foods in, but I need to see if he wants like some kind of special food for his birthday tomorrow. Yeah.
Speaker: Maybe make him an apple pie. He loves apple pie. You should. Yeah. I think we're, I'm going to try and do like a Maybond celebration this weekend for us just because it's hard whenever these like Sabbaths fall on a week a day, especially like kids and work. I mean, I'm not working, but Mike's working and then trying to get prepped for this PCS and stuff. So it would be a lot easier to do some witchy things on the weekend. So that's the plan.
Speaker: We're doing like October of us this weekend, but I feel like, so like, you know, we researched and recorded and did this like however long ago, weeks ago. So it was like, I thought about it. And then I'm like, and brain dump for the next series of things that we're doing. And yesterday, like literally yesterday, I was like, Oh, fuck.
Speaker: I feel like that's all of witchcraft, though. It's like, oh, we have all these things. And then you're like, oh, I forgot about them. Right. I didn't prepare for this at all. But Oktoberfest, that is a way to celebrate Mabon. Yeah, we're going to have some delicious beers and delicious food. Hopefully they'll have some apple something or something. I'm sure they will. I'm sure they will. It's in.
Speaker: It's on the other side of St. Louis, I wanna say. Maybe it's St. Charles. I don't know. They had the one in Belleville this past weekend and we just didn't go. Can you hear that? What is it? A car alarm. Again? Yeah. It's very aggressive. Let me look out my window. Let me be a nosy neighbor.
Speaker: I don't see anything, but it's still going. Hopefully it doesn't like come through on the thing. I don't, I mean, I don't hear anything, so. Okay.
Speaker: I'll just be like, maybe. Yeah. My cats are being whiny. My dog might come in here because she's a puppy and someone's car alarm is going off. Welcome to episode 34 where we still don't have our shit together, but it's not even our fault. It's everything else's fault. Literally. My children have been screaming downstairs, so it's fine.
Speaker: And you had like a whole army of people. Yeah. They're gone now. Thank God. I was like, what is happening? And people are cheering and like, there's just a horde of people running at me and I'm dead. Yeah. This is what I get for having my blinds open while recording. I mean,
Speaker: It's necessary. It is. We need some natural light, okay? It's like never sunny in the UK. I need that vitamin D. Literally. Literally. Literally. Literally. So yeah, what are we talking about to life? The creepy cryptids.
Speaker: I love folklore and lore and mythology. Cryptids is probably one of my favorite topics to read. I'm not one of those crazy conspiracy people, but I love the stories behind cryptids because they're always so funny.
Speaker: they are and the most random shit and people are like absolutely this thing came and looked in my eyes and you're like what right like what were you on because i wanted but then also you're questioning like is this a for real thing right couldn't you know throughout this episode i'm going to talk about some facts that are like
Speaker: All right, people. There was a poll, I have it under, we talk about Bigfoot in a little bit, but there's a poll that was taken in a pretty, not a huge percentage, but more than I think I would have thought being the percentage of people that believed Bigfoot was real.
Speaker: Yeah. Like I feel like when I think of cryptids, I'm like, sure, they probably could be real. There's a lot of stuff that we don't know. Mm hmm. You know, they're like finding shit in the bottom of the ocean kind of thing. And there's probably shit that hides from explorers, you know, that we haven't seen the amount of people that without an act like without a doubt, they were like, absolutely. Bigfoot is real. And I'm like, wow, that's surprising. It's really surprising because most people shun that kind of stuff anyways. Mm hmm. So.
Speaker: Sorry, I needed a drink. My throat got dry and I was about to cough. And I was like, we can't have that. So most people probably already know, but of course I'm just adding the definition because just in case. We have to. Yeah. So by definition, a cryptid is an animal that's been claimed to exist, but has not been proven to exist. So like Bigfoot.
Speaker: And then like most people will know a handful, but doing this research, did you come across pages of like cryptids? There's like hundreds of them. Like I know that there's a lot, but I just didn't realize how many. I was like trying to count on one page that had like, it was supposed to be an all inclusive, like all, like end all be all every cryptid listed. I got to like 250 and still had way too many to count. And I was like, there's more than a hundred.
Speaker: Yeah. So there are hundreds of cryptids that are claimed to exist, some of which are very well known and have been used in movies and TV shows or in books and games. You've at least heard of one of these at the very least one.
Speaker: So some of the more commonly known ones, the Loch Ness Monster, which I feel like probably everyone knows this one. Yeah. She's also known as Nessie. It's what Jacob nicknames Bella's daughter. You named my daughter the Loch Ness Monster? All I could think of when I was writing that out.
Speaker: So the first modern sighting is dated to be in August of 1933 and Nessie sightings are of a long -necked dinosaur -esque creature swimming in the water and it's named after the lake Loch Ness in Scotland's Highlands where it's believed to have originated and live.
Speaker: And another one, which I'm, I don't think a lot of people are familiar with the name, but they will have seen this all over Facebook. I for a while, everybody was sharing this picture of this fucking huge bat, but a pool is a winged cryptid found in Indonesia. And, um, it said to have the face of a chimpanzee mixed with a bat. Um, and that's terrifying.
Speaker: It's a bat pansy. Yeah. A bansy. A bansy. And it has large wings, but they're like bat wings, but they're like huge and gray fur. It was first spotted supposedly in 1925 by a Dr. Ernest Bartels. He was a naturalist who was exploring a waterfall in the mountains of Indonesia. And he saw it again in like 1927, supposedly.
Speaker: while lying in his bed inside of his thatched house in Indonesia. And this is closely related to the Orang Bati, which is another flying cryptid that again resembles a huge freaking bat that is said to go around snatching up children and eating them. So yeah, but the name Orang Bati means man with wings.
Speaker: So that big ass bath that you see like doctored up on Facebook that's supposed to be in the Philippines. That's like supposedly this dude, but it makes you wonder like, so this guy was out. Where did you say he's exploring somewhere in Indonesia? It makes you wonder if he came across like something like maybe a poisonous plant or a hallucinating plant because like, I know I'm talking about Mothman kind of in bulk later, but
Speaker: The area in Point Pleasant where Mothman is seen, there's like an old nuclear power plant there that's like abandoned. There's like a old military testing site that's abandoned. It makes you wonder like, so these tend to be in areas like that or like in weird, just kind of like areas where there's nothing. It makes you wonder if these people have like
Speaker: I don't know, come across something that's making them hallucinate and that's why they're seeing these things. You know what? I feel like that might be the case in this situation, especially. Oh, also guys, I have a really squeaky chair. We've tried everything, it won't stop. So sorry if you hear that in the background too. Next we have Sasquatch.
Speaker: Most people have probably heard Sasquatch, but you probably know him more as Bigfoot. Some of the earliest known documentation of Bigfoot sightings go as far back as the 16th century, but there's also a note that there were like indigenous stories that surrounded a mysterious hair covered creature in the forest that was likely to be also Bigfoot or Sasquatch.
Speaker: Lost my spot, because I was on the wrong page. There have been over 10 ,000 reported Bigfoot sightings within the United States, and one third of those have been in the Pacific Northwest. And then there was a poll taken in 2020, like I was talking about earlier, that found that 11 % of US adults believe that Bigfoot actually exists. He's a real creature.
Speaker: Well, you know, I will say some of the YouTube videos are a little bit like, okay, I can see that. Yeah. Yeah. But one, there's like a lot of the sightings, you know, like the hard thing with cryptades is that you never know if they're faked or doctored or whatever, because some of them, you know, they'll talk about a sighting and I don't know, it might've been with Bigfoot. It could have been with Yeti when I was reading through these, someone had claimed, you know, like, Oh, I came across, I saw Bigfoot, blah, blah, blah. And they were like showing these like,
Speaker: feet prints, like giant footprints. And then basically later they found that the man had like, he created a wooden, like he carved a wooden footprint and was using those to make footprints and then claim that he saw. So it's like, you never know because people are so dumb. It's like people want so badly to be part of something like this that they're like, look, I found it, but they fake it, which then like discredits it. So you never know. Exactly. Yeah. And that's fucked up.
Speaker: Yeah, yeah. He's like, look at I found him. And then they're like, what is this giant foot in your car? And he's like, don't look at that. Don't look at that. I don't know. I don't know how they got there. Weird Bigfoot. Yeah, he wants to put there.
Speaker: He's Scooby -Dooing, y 'all. Just take off his head and he's actually Bigfoot. Boop, Bigfoot. Or it's just his face again. Right. I'm the clown.
Speaker: So the next one that I mean, I'm, I'm not sure if this is like internationally known, but at least in America, everybody's heard about the Jersey devil. I was going to say, I know the Jersey devil, not personally, but yeah.
Speaker: Um, so for those who don't know about the Jersey devil, he appears as a, with the head of a goat, hooves of a horse and wings of a bat. And the body structure of the Jersey devil is said to be a biped. So kind of like a kangaroo and he's known.
Speaker: or it's terrifying screech. So that's great. But there's a lot of contradictions to its history, but it's most often traced back to 1735 to the Leeds family. So the legend states that mother Leeds had 12 children and she didn't want any more because she couldn't afford it. So when she became pregnant again, she cursed the child saying it was of the devil. And then, yeah, which,
Speaker: What? And it was what? The 13th child. Yes. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Rude. Rude. So months later, she gave birth to a normal baby boy and gradually he began to change. His body started to change and he started developing like a violent disposition and he ended up growing wings. So. She put it out into the universe. Exactly. Like you get what you ask for. We tell you guys all the time.
Speaker: You can manifest anything you want. And she manifested the Jersey Devil. So when his wings were fully grown, he assaulted his family and then fled through the chimney into the forest. And it said that he haunts the forest where he lived, even to today. So there were sightings throughout the 1700s and in 1820, Joseph Bonaparte, which is Napoleon Bonaparte's older brother. I don't know what the hell he was doing in America.
Speaker: I don't know that much about American history apparently, but he saw it while he was hunting. And so, but he didn't catch it or anything. And throughout time it's been linked to livestock deaths and in the 1900s
Speaker: residents were getting so fed up with the livestock deaths that multiple times schools were closed so that there could be a manhunt to find it. And even in the 1960s, they offered a reward to capture the beast dead or alive of like $10 ,000 in the 1960s, which I'm sure was like a shit of money. But nothing was ever found. And now it's just this big urban legend that he still exists. This also makes me wonder how big
Speaker: Have chimneys gotten smaller over the years? Because you see this a lot. This one, when he was full grown, Attack This Family flies out the chimney. You see worries about Mothman flying in and out of chimneys. I wonder if it's Santa Claus, those cartoon versions of Santa Claus where they come.
Speaker: where it gets really small. And then when it comes out of the chimney, it's like full size. Yeah. Or like they sprinkle magic and the chimney grows. Right. Yeah. So. The Jersey devil's like blows this magic dust into the chimney and it grows. Yeah. It's clothing though. Yeah. But then because it has the head of a goat, is it like? Cryptids are great. I love them.
Speaker: Uh, next is the Yeti. So I feel like everything I read on the Yeti, it was like more commonly known as the abominable snowman, but I feel like everybody knows Yeti. I don't know. Yeah, I know them both, but yeah. Yeah. Well, and I, I didn't realize that they were the same. Like I growing up, I always thought they were separate. Like there was a Yeti and then there was an abominable snowman.
Speaker: But they are one and the same. The first modern signing is dated to be in 1832. The Yeti was part of a pre -Buddhist belief of several Himalayan people where they basically were worshipped. The Yeti was described as a glacier being and he was a god of the hunt in the pre -19th century era, which I thought that was kind of cool. I'd never heard that before. I haven't either. Yeah, apparently he's a god of the hunt.
Speaker: and was worshipped. So, interesting. Signings of the Yeti increased in the 20th century and on November 30th, 1959, the American Embassy in Nepal actually released a document that outlined official regulations for Yeti hunters, which I thought was just hilarious.
Speaker: So the Jersey Devil, they're like, wanted dead or alive, here's the reward. And then Yadi, they're like, if you're going to hunt them, here's your regulations. Right. And this poor man with a polar bear coat up in the mountains is like, what are these people on? Did that person just shoot at me? Right. I'm just dying to walk back to my hut. What's happening?
Speaker: Uh, cryptids are funny. I'm going to keep saying this because they are, it's just like the stories and the beliefs are wild. Yeah. Um, and this one is not a well -known one, or at least I had never heard of it before, but I was cracking up when I heard about it. And so it is my funny one. Um, have you ever heard of the Loveland, Ohio frogman? No.
Speaker: So basically the story goes, a man was driving somewhere in Ohio and he saw three figures in the road standing about like three to four feet tall and they were stood upright. He knew like from looking at him that they weren't people. And from what he could tell, like they were leathery, like they had leathery skin and the faces of frogs. Okay.
Speaker: So one of the frogmen had an instrument that looked kind of like a magic wand and it sparkled. He probably just had a sparkler. Yeah, probably. Would make sense, right? But it scared the guy so bad that he drove away. And this happened, like, I don't know if it was in the sixties or seventies, but it wasn't like recent. But later, like,
Speaker: on, maybe a few months or a few years later, I'm not sure on the timeline here, a woman was swimming in the Ohio river and she reports that someone or something tried to drag her under the water and she was able to break free. And when she did, she saw cuts on her body and like a green shaped mark on her leg that looked like a paw print.
Speaker: So while she didn't see the frog man, she's just, it's just known that, oh, this could be the frog man that did this. But anyway.
Speaker: could just be some crazy person, you know, whatever. Yeah. And then in 1972, a police officer was driving around the area around like 1 AM and an unknown creature ran by his car. And at first he thought it was a dog. So he got out to investigate and saw a lizard like creature.
Speaker: So when noticed the creature stood up, uh, like erect on like, instead of on four feet, like on two feet, feet, and then jumped over the guard rail.
Speaker: And then a short time later, another police officer. So like this first police officer goes back and is like, you will not believe what I just saw. Well, this other police officer was driving around this area and saw a frog slash lizardy type creature. And he couldn't believe it. He's just like, oh my God, this is the creature. So he got out and he shot it and he put it in this trunk and takes it back to the station to show the first police officer
Speaker: And you know what it was? It was an iguana with a missing fucking tail.
Speaker: Not a frog man. An iguana with a missing tail. So somebody's fucking iguana. I don't know. And scared people. They do. They'll run on two feet. We used to have other iguanas because they'll stand up on their back feet and like run like little creams. And that poor iguana, he's probably just trying to live his best life. Maybe even trying to find his home. He just gets shot for no reason.
Speaker: But even the frog man. Yeah, even he's like, I was just celebrating the Fourth of July with a sparkler and some man freaked out. Yeah. And now I'm dead now. But you know, even though
Speaker: The iguana was shot and killed. There are still a lot of sightings of the lug, the Loveland frogmen. And most recently a couple was out playing Pokemon go and they saw a real Pokemon, a real one. Um, they saw a creature like in the river and they took a picture and a video of it. And it's like super grainy. So you can't really see a lot. They always are. Yeah, they always are.
Speaker: And it was like dark too, but all you see is this like large, like lump thing that looks like it could be a frog's head and two big glowing eyes. So who knows what it is.
Speaker: Could it be the frog man? Could it be another iguana? What if there's just a pack of iguanas living their best life in, where was this, Ohio? In Ohio. Where iguanas live. All right. That's our natural habitat is Ohio. Ohio.
Speaker: Okay, this one, I don't know how well known it is to everyone, but we grew up with this one, the Chupacabra. Oh, yeah. Okay, we grew up in Southern California. So Chupacabra was like a scary nighttime story.
Speaker: So the literal translation of Chupacabra means goat sucker. And the first modern sighting is dated to be in March of 1995. So this is like a new -ish cryptid, right? So this happened in Puerto Rico and it caused the mare of, is it, I was gonna look this up, Canovanus?
Speaker: Sounds fine to me. That's what I'm going to go with. It caused the mayor of Canovanas, Puerto Rico to form an armed posse of 200 people and a caged goat in an attempt to catch the chupacabra that was slaughtering animals and draining them of their blood. Like basically it was killing people's livestock and draining them of their blood. And so like 200 people in the town got together
Speaker: with their guns and knives and whatever else they brought and then they brought a goat in a cage and they're like we're gonna catch this motherfucker. It's just so funny to me.
Speaker: The physical description of the Chupacabra varies from story to story, but they're said to attack and drink the blood of livestock, including goats, which is where they get their name, with sightings occurring from as far north as Maine and as far south as Chile, as well as in Russia and in the Philippines. And then often coyotes and raccoons that have mange are misidentified as being all Chupacabra.
Speaker: Maybe it is a mangy dog. Like, do you remember like these being in the news in the 90s? Okay. Like it was very normal in California, like especially Southern California that it was like, oh, the chupa cover is gonna get you. So when I was trying to think of like, which ones I wanted to like briefly cover for the most well known, I was like, clearly the chupa cover has to be in there.
Speaker: I just, that's a really big area to travel.
Speaker: Yeah, has to be. So that was just a short introduction to just some more well known cryptids. But we are going to both give you a long description, a long dive into two more. Yes. Yeah. So we are going to cover Mothman and the Banshee. So
Speaker: which are both great ones to cover in length, in my personal opinion. Two of our favorite ones. Yes, I love me some Mothman stuff. It's so funny. Mostly because it's like, is he a moth? Is he a man? Who knows? I think he's an owl. It's like backstory makes no sense. And it's crazy. So I'll start with the Mothman.
Speaker: The appearance of the Mothman is like I said, like he's often thought of as being either part Moth or part man. He is almost always described as having like glowing red eyes, massive wings, being really tall and just like of a humanoid stature.
Speaker: Mothman is commonly described as being a bipedal, winged humanoid whose appearance is more of a large humanoid owl than it is a moth, and the colors vary between black, gray, and brown, but are always noted as darker shades.
Speaker: The height of Mothman is reported to be approximately seven feet tall with a wingspan that ranges between 10 and 15 feet, sometimes more depending on who's telling the story. And the height does sometimes vary too from sighting to sighting, but it's always been no less than five and no greater than eight feet explained.
Speaker: Mothin is said to have the ability to fly over 100 miles per hour with a flight pattern that is often described as straight up like a helicopter in quotes. That was like multiple things everybody was like straight up like a helicopter and I'm like I don't know if they just mean like you like
Speaker: Darts like straight up and then like flies like a helicopter or if they're just like straight up a helicopter bro Like I just I have so many questions because like do his wings are they like in a circle like a helicopter plane or is it just like
Speaker: And then he just like, that's the other thing because I don't know if I included this in my notes, but in a lot of the stuff that I read, they talk about how his wings don't actually like flap when he's flying. Like he literally just shoots up into the air and then starts soaring like a glide. Nice. But they also describe like his flight as straight up like a helicopter.
Speaker: And I'm like, in my head, I like I want to think that they actually mean that, you know, like a helicopter when it takes off, it just kind of like it doesn't like drive forward like an airplane. Yeah, it goes straight up. So that's what I'm assuming. But the way that I read it, I was like straight up like a helicopter bro.
Speaker: So who knows? That's the way my brain works. But anyways, it's said that he often torments drivers by either flying directly in front of them or landing on the roofs of their cars.
Speaker: And many of the sightings that I'll talk about later, well, I guess not many, a few of the sightings that I'll talk about later happen in cars. And they, like specifically when they tell the police about it, they're like, we were driving a hundred miles an hour to get away and he was flying right above us. So like, that's how they get that. He goes a hundred miles an hour is because people were like, no, I was driving a hundred miles an hour and there he was. So who knows?
Speaker: While his eyes are always described as being like a glowing red, some have described Mothman as actually not having a head but having huge red eyes that are set in his chest.
Speaker: which I was like, this is interesting. I've always seen Mothman depicted with the head. So I've never seen chest Mothman. I feel like if I saw chest Mothman, I would probably die. Yeah. I just, you know what? This was, it's been a good life. Right. I don't need this stress in my life right now.
Speaker: And it's said that while he usually flies, he is able to fold his wings behind him and walk, but does so with a shuffle similar to a penguin's gait. Stop it right now. So there's just like seven foot bipedal moth with like humanoid features, giant 15 feet wings folded in like a bat boy, just like, beep.
Speaker: shuffling. My thing is, so okay, if he's a humanoid creature, does that mean like, but he shuffles like a penguin? Are his legs like togetherly short? Like, are they? It's just a long torso, like a butterfly body. Yeah. And like a moth body, I guess. And it's like, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep
Speaker: So a little background on Mothman. Many believe that Mothman is a harbinger of cataclysmic events, while there are others that think it's an alien life form connecting it to both UFOs and men in black, which I'll talk about later. Those who encounter the Mothman often suffer from extreme fear and psychological distress,
Speaker: that can last for years afterwards, noting that there's a sense of pure evil that overcomes them once they look into his eyes, and then they have chronic PTSD -like symptoms afterwards. So yeah, if you saw him, even if it was non -chess Mothman, you would probably just be like, you know what? Death. Who needs this?
Speaker: So Mothman is said to dwell in a couple of different places, both being in Point Pleasant, West Virginia. The first one is a vacant nuclear power plant in Point Pleasant. That's known as the North Power Plant. And this was once home to a top secret government facility that tested nuclear weapons. And this theory led many to believe that Mothman was a result of government testing and tampering. And that's going to come back up later.
Speaker: And then the other is an area that's also or that's known as the TNT area in Point Pleasant. And this is basically just a row of World War Two era bunkers that are just kind of out in the middle of nowhere. They're known as some of the more infamous Mothman siding areas and
Speaker: This area was secluded and it became a dumping ground as well as an area that teenagers would sneak off to, but it's well known to locals that this is the place where like Mothman usually hides or lives.
Speaker: Many people that reported sightings from within their cars usually came from people driving near the TNT area. And then it said that basically Mothman would appear and chase them back into city limits. And they, again, they always said like, oh, I was driving a hundred miles an hour trying to get away, you know, like telling the police. So that's where they're just like, oh, he clearly, he flies that fast. So he has to.
Speaker: The town of Point Pleasant also has a dark history with the indigenous peoples of the land. So like way back in the day, there was a Shawnee tribe in Point Pleasant and their chief den was named Chief Cordenstock. And the military, like basically a war breaks out
Speaker: and Chief Cornstock barters a peace treaty with the military. And later he and his son like go to do a diplomatic visit on the military base and they shoot and kill both of them and force the Shawnee people off the land, like de -weaponize them and everything. And it said that when they killed him,
Speaker: Like on his dying breath, he cursed the land of Point Pleasant for 200 years. And many believe that this curse came to life in the form of the Mothman. The townspeople actually wrote a play. This is really gross. So they wrote a play about this whole incident, but making it seem like Chief Cornstock and the Shawnee tribe
Speaker: were like bad and that they had to do these to save the people of Point Pleasant like they had to kill him and they like had the little kids like perform this play in school every year and they would like reenact killing Chief Cornstock and him cursing the land and then Mothman being born.
Speaker: Why? Yeah, because white people. White people are the worst. What the fuck? Yeah. Yeah. So they just like basically made the Shawnee tribe out to be savages and like the military came in to protect the people of Point Pleasant. And then that's why we have Mothman though. Yeah. And then these, this like particular curse and Mothman have also been tied
Speaker: to four incidents that the Ohio Valley River flooded. And these floods, like they were just blamed on the curse essentially. But then they also tie Mothman to them in a way that like with Mothman, it's usually said that you see him. And then after like X amount of sighting, something really bad happens. So they tied it to these floodings. So for sightings, there are a lot. I am gonna talk about a lot.
Speaker: but there are like a bajillion more that I could have added. So there's been like countless sightings of the Mothman in the United States with the most famous sightings always occurring in West Virginia and near Point Pleasant, or some in Ohio too, because it's like Point Pleasant is right on the border of Ohio and West Virginia, I guess, or like the river goes through both. I don't remember exactly how they described it, but
Speaker: So basically the Point Pleasant Register started reporting sightings of Mothman in 1966. So the first documented sighting was November 12th of 1966. And it was said that five men were in a cemetery. Sometimes this changes. Some stories tell it as only four men. I don't think the amount of men matters, but it was something that was like noted by one person that I watched on YouTube talking about it, like how this story particular always changes.
Speaker: But the story that I'm going with is the five men were in a cemetery and they were prepping a grave for burial when they saw something like in the tree. Like they heard something, they look over, there's a tree line. They see like the red eyes and then something just like lifts off from the trees and like takes off in flight. So they reported that it was a brown winged creature that was humanoid and definitely not a bird.
Speaker: That's actually in the quotes of the paper. What gave it away? It's definitely not a bird. So on November 15th of 1966, two separate couples reported having been chased by a black figure with a 10 -foot wingspan and glowing red eyes while driving their cars. The next day, the Point Pleasant Register published a story with the headline, Couples See Man -Sized Bird Creature?
Speaker: Something? It's the literal headline and it made me laugh. And then Mothman was later dubbed anonymously and an Ohio newspaper. And so like once I got published, it was just from the there on out, this is Mothman.
Speaker: So in December 15, or on December 15 1967, the silver bridge collapses. So basically the traffic lights in town went down causing traffic on the 40 year old silver bridge to like back up and then the bridge collapses into the river and it killed 46 people. There were 70 cars in total on the bridge at the time and residents of Point Pleasant watched as cars and Christmas gifts just floated down the river.
Speaker: they were like not able to do anything. So like the river is just like terrible, right? So all like 70 cars fall into this river basically. And there's, you know, like search boats, like trying to navigate through and hopefully find alive people that mostly they just found dead bodies. And then there's just like watching as like people's Christmas presents are floating down the Ohio River. Um,
Speaker: And it was with this one, it was said that like, you can actually look up pictures of this. Personally, like I looked through a lot of these pictures last night. Someone reported seeing Mothman on the bridge right before the collapse, but it, it really does just look like a piece of the bridge, like a piece of metal or something like at the top. Cause again, it's grainy. You can't really, you know, make out what it is, but it doesn't look like a Mothman. It looks like, like a little like.
Speaker: corner of something sticking out. So basically they say they saw that everyone's trying to figure out, you know, like what happened with this bridge and then because someone said it, they were like, oh, it was because of Mothman and this curse. Then there was a man named Merle Partridge.
Speaker: So Merle stated that he and his wife were basically watching TV at home when their dogs started barking. And then he heard a loud scream coming from outside at the same time that their TV just explodes, like shatters the TV glass all over the living room.
Speaker: So he gets up and goes outside and his dog is still going crazy. He looks over in this field and he says he sees two orbs of red light just circling each other in the field. And his dog takes off and he keeps calling his dog trying to get him to come back. The dog won't come back. The orbs float off into the sky and disappear. And then he's like, that was weird. And he just goes back inside of his house and helps his wife clean up.
Speaker: and then they never see the dog again. Yeah, it's gonna be a big ass no. Right? Absolutely not. For me, also, you're on your own gizmo if you're chasing us for something that's not coming. Nix, you better keep your ass on this house. Right. Yeah, because I'm sorry, babe.
Speaker: Then Connie Carpenter. I forget what day Merle Partridge's sighting was, but basically like shortly after Merle Partridge
Speaker: sees this whole thing go down and his TV explodes. On Sunday, November 27 in 1966, a woman by the name of Connie Carpenter encountered the Mothman in broad daylight. So up until this point, there had been only one other sighting that actually happened in the daytime. Everything else had been at night.
Speaker: So she said she was driving home from church when she came across the Mothman. She claims that he basically, he flew toward her car to attack her and she felt trapped in his sight, like unable to move. Like basically she locks eyes with him and she's just overcome with this sense of like fear and evil and she can't move. And she like.
Speaker: Eventually like gets away cause she's driving, you know, so she drives and she gets away and within the next like couple of days she contracted conjunctivitis like right after. So like she locks eyes with him. He gets pretty close to her car and then like two, I think it was like two days later, she gets conjunctivitis in both of her eyes and she refuses to discuss what happened after reporting it to the police and her doctor. Like she tells her doctor cause he was like, oh, you know, like.
Speaker: what did you do that you could have gotten this and she was like i saw mothman and we walked eyes and he gave me the pink eye he must have farted on my fellows farted in my face bear ass maybe he had shit breath because yeah because he's a mothman maybe he had to lick himself clean and then he just breathed in her eyes and then
Speaker: Who knows? But either way, this lady, Connie Carpenter, got pink eye from the Mothman. Tad Jones was an appliance store owner. And so this is the first one that I've come across in the timeline that happens like outside of Point Pleasant. So his appliance store is approximately 50 miles from Point Pleasant.
Speaker: And Tad believed that he saw a UFO land on the interstate 64. And then he tells people like I was driving this UFO fucking lands right in front of me on the highway, like on the interstate, and like tells a story tells the police the next morning he wakes up and there's a note on his door.
Speaker: and it says, this is like verbatim quotes, we know what you have seen and we know that you have talked, you better keep your mouth shut. Yeah, but he never claimed it was Mothman. Tad Jones always stated that it was a UFO. In December, five pilots at the, it's Gallipolis, I looked this up, Gallipolis.
Speaker: I hate this one. Gallipolis. Gallipolis. I want to say Gallopolis. Me too. I'm like, right? Yeah. I looked it up and like, listen to people pronounce it. So in December, five pilots at the Gallipolis airport saw and what they're calling in quotes, an airplane sized bird swerving above the airport that they believe to be the Mothman.
Speaker: Conspiracy theorists have linked Mothman to Chernobyl stating that there were sightings before the disaster as well as to 9 -11 and 55 Mothman sightings occurred in Chicago from 2011 to 2017, which I remember this. Yeah, and they're all at the airport in Chicago. Every time it comes up in the news that people saw a Mothman, it's always like the Chicago airport for some reason.
Speaker: I don't know like what it is about that area. So basically like in the 60s, there was a string of Mothman sightings from 1966 to like 1967. There's all these like bad things that happen like the bridge collapsing.
Speaker: And what was their name? Connie getting pink eyes, somebody's dog going missing. Which is bad. Yeah, but it's not like you had a klismic. It is for Connie. Yeah, for Connie it was. But yeah, so like there was an entire year that just like this happens and happens and happens. And then like it goes quiet for a while and then from then on out, it's like bad events in that area, especially they're like,
Speaker: Mothman, 100%. And then you'll have like a bunch of people come forward and be like, I saw the Mothman. So who knows? Is there a Mothman? No one really knows.
Speaker: So some possible explanations were drawn up by local Point Pleasant scientists. They believed that the Mothman was nothing more than a large heron mistaken as an unknown creature, which I feel like, right, right. And then later, this Dr. Robert L. Smith, he was from West Virginia University. He went into Point Pleasant
Speaker: did some poking around and research and talk to some people. And his conclusion was that the sightings were actually of a large sandhill crane, a bird that's known to have a 10 foot wingspan with red markings around their eyes. And I looked this bird up, and I mean, it looks like the red is like this. I know you guys can't see me on the podcast, but it's like huge red circles around their eyes. So, I mean, maybe if you saw that in a tree or something,
Speaker: You're like, it's like dark. I guess maybe but I feel like I feel like as a rational person, if I saw a giant bird, I'd be like, that's a big ass bird. And then go about my day. So who knows?
Speaker: This particular theory was later added to by others who believe that toxins from the nearby TNT area caused a sandhill crane to mutate, giving it a glowing, like large appearance, essentially. So they think that may be...
Speaker: toxins from this testing site could have like mutated this giant bird, which is sad. But yeah, yeah, I can see that. Yeah. And then the other one, like they just believe that it's owls being cited because owls have very large wing spans, their eyes kind of glow when light hits them. So they're also counted as a culprit to mouth, mouth man, mouth man sightings. And don't they kind of waddle to when they walk? They do top heavy. Yeah. So
Speaker: Could be owl. Could be. That would be a big -ass owl though. It would have to be. Maybe it's a mutated owl. Stupid TNT toxins. And then just some additional information. Point Pleasant West Virginia has a museum, a statue, and a reoccurring festival that are all dedicated to the Mothman, which is hilarious. And now I kind of want to go just because.
Speaker: And then in 1975, a New York City author named John Keel published the book, The Mothman Prophecies, which most of you have probably heard of because it was also later adapted into a film in 2002 starring Richard Gere and Laura Linney.
Speaker: Kiel actually visited Point Pleasant after he came across the book, got really interested, and then was like, I'm going to go research this. He goes to Point Pleasant and he speaks to many of the locals to write the story for the movie. He also walked the North Power Plant and investigated the case with a local reporter named Mary Heyer. I'm not 100 percent sure because
Speaker: Different sources said different things, but some of them claim that Mary Hire is actually related to Connie, who got conjunctivided from Mothman. And that's what inspired her to become a reporter in the local area. She's like, I'm going to get your ass. Yeah, I'm going to track this bitch down.
Speaker: So, Keel encountered a lot of weird occurrences after visiting Point Pleasant and doing investigations on Mothman sightings. So, there was a period of time that his phone calls were monitored. He always felt like he was being followed.
Speaker: He like for a while, like his male was just being intercepted by some like the police and nobody would tell him why. And when he talks about like being followed, he has several sightings of men in black following him. The film brought a right. Right. It's kind of terrifying. It is especially like, you know, being now where they've come out and they're like,
Speaker: Yeah, UFOs are real, aliens are real, you know, like they're like actually giving these things as being like real things. Yes. And now like you read back in your life, maybe these people weren't so crazy, you know. So, Kiel's film brought a high tourism rate to Point Pleasant and it brings in approximately 10 to 12 ,000 tourists each year to this little city.
Speaker: Which, and if you haven't seen The Mothman Prophecies, I absolutely love this movie. I remember watching it when it first came out.
Speaker: And then I had my friend Kristiana over and she wanted to watch it. And it was like me, her, and our friend Beau. And Beau and I both fell asleep while we were watching it. And we woke up to every light in the house on. She was closing all the blinds. I don't know if you've ever seen it. It's a great spooky movie.
Speaker: I highly recommend it. I tried to watch it last I told you I tried to watch it last night and I couldn't find it streaming anywhere. And I was like, I'm not gonna pay for it because I've already seen it a million times. Yeah, I have only watched it once. And that was in the movie theaters when it came out. Yeah. And
Speaker: I don't even remember much of the movie because behind us, I just remember my crush at the time, his like this came out when I was in junior high, my crush at the time, his older brother was behind us.
Speaker: making out with his girlfriend the whole movie. Like you can hear it. That's how loud it was. You're like, you're really ruining the ambiance. Yes. And I'm just like, Oh my God. So I was already embarrassed because I was there with my family. You know what I mean? Like, yeah. Cause when you're in junior high, you're embarrassed about everything. And then the whole time he's like,
Speaker: slurping on the whole movie. So that's when I think about the Mothman class. That's all you think about. That's what I think about. So I should probably watch it again. Yeah, you should watch it again at like home in the spooky setting. Yeah. I just remember this scene where he like the Mothman calls him and he unplugs the phone because he's like freaking out and then the phone's like all ripped out of the wall. It's like
Speaker: ring. It's just like, what the fuck? Yeah, no, thank you. Yeah, it scared the shit out of my friend because she was the only one awake because it was like, late as fuck at night. And we had all fallen asleep except for her. She literally like, when I say every light in the house, I mean, like, she went into the kitchen and turned that on. She went into my room and turned the light on the bathroom lights, the hall light, the living room light. Like,
Speaker: Every light in the house was literally odd and she was like, you assholes fell asleep, which is like closing blinds because she's like scared the Mothman is going to pop up. Great movie. I love that movie. So also, Gary Barker is a science fiction writer of a book called The Silver Bridge. And this is like a semi -fictional book that was published and it included many Mothman encounters in it as well.
Speaker: In 2020, a petition was created to, this is so funny, to replace Confederate army statues, which is statues of law man, which please, I would absolutely love this. Imagine like touring like a historic area and then there's just a law man statue.
Speaker: I'm here for it. I'm here for it. And then the Mothman sightings within this area also brought sightings of other cryptids and beings. Some of these are, there's one called Indrid Cold is like his name, I guess, but he's also known as the Smiling Man.
Speaker: And basically he's just like this weird, creepy humanoid that just smiles at you while like conversing telepathically. But it's like a maniacal smile. It's not like a happy smile. Like it's like an evil smile. The bird man or the owl man is another one. And he's just like a humanoid owl -like entity.
Speaker: UFOs. So there are a ton of UFO sightings in this area and a lot of them happened at the same time as there were lock man sightings. And then the men in black, after these sightings became frequent, men wearing black suits who were said to have worked for a government agency came into town
Speaker: They would often interview reporters or those who reported sightings of the Mothman, UFOs, and other cryptids. Then this plays into Kiel talking about his phones being tapped, his mail being intercepted, like him being followed after doing his own investigation on Mothman in Point Pleasant.
Speaker: Today, Mothman can be seen in memes and merchandise. He's hilarious. I absolutely love him. I have the cutest little Mothman -like.
Speaker: It's the ladies thing is called like clay me cuties or something like that. She makes these cute like little clay creatures and Mothman was one of them this year at the Geek Craft Expo. So Jen and I of course had to buy one. She also had the Loch Ness Monster and Bigfoot were so precious. But yeah, also one of my favorite coffees is the Mothman, the Red Eye Mothman blend by Spring Hill Jack.
Speaker: I only bought it because it was Mothman and Last Podcast on the left and it is actually a fantastic coffee. So now we buy it regularly. Nice. I hope you check that out. Always down for a good coffee. Yeah, no, it's a really good like bold coffee. I love it.
Speaker: So that's Mothman. That's Mothman. And what have we learned? Don't look directly in his eyes or you go get pink eye. You'll get pink eye. And even if you drive a hundred miles an hour, he'll be right there. Right there. And if there's a bridge and there's a bunch of people on it, maybe don't get on it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And if you see him, maybe just lock yourself in your house because that means something bad's going to happen. Yes.
Speaker: Yeah. Yeah. Have you seen the, there's like people that get like Mothman tattoos and there's one that has, um, it's a stripper pole and it's like a spicy Mothman stripping on the pole, like doing a stripper. I think I've seen that.
Speaker: Uh, someone shared it on TikTok and they did it, um, to the Mothman song. Like the sound. Yeah. Love a good cryptid story.
Speaker: I do. I love them. I love them too. And they're just continuing with our next story about the Banshee. This is one of my favorite ones. I actually have the, um, she's my favorite character in World of Warcraft. She's the Banshee Queen. The Banshee Queen. The Faunus. I don't really play World of Warcraft anymore, but I used to, and she was my favorite. And then they ruined her story.
Speaker: Oh, yeah, nothing about World of Warcraft, but I do know about the Banshee.
Speaker: So the Banshee is, comes from Irish Celtic lore. Essentially the name itself derives from the old Irish name for women of, woman of the Ferry Mound, I'm gonna say that again, woman of the Ferry Mound. This name is connected to, I meant to look up how to say this, but I didn't. And - Look, I feel like they know by now that we always forget to look up pronunciations and we still butcher them even though we try. That's true.
Speaker: Um, but it's connected to two Malie. Um, which I had to look this up because I was like, I don't understand what this is. Um, they're ancient burial grounds or like a Barrow and it's Anglo Saxon thing, but it's mounds of earth seen all over the Irish countryside and they cover up gravestones or burial sites.
Speaker: And it reminds me of hobbit holes because it's like the mound. Oh, like the little stones. Yeah. But whenever I was first reading it, I was like, so it's just like dirt, like I'm confused. Well then the grass grows over it. Yeah. And so I was just like, okay, is this like
Speaker: Is there a mole problem? Maybe that is it. Anyway, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. But it's not that it's the kind of like hobbit holes, but the two milli are said to be homes of the dead or of spirits. And so, you know, of course she's connected to that.
Speaker: But she's also known as the hag of the mist, the little washer woman, and the hag of blackhead. For the little washer woman, this comes from the lore that she has been sighted washing blood stains from the clothes of people, usually warriors or soldiers who would soon die. And we discussed this in our episode when we discussed.
Speaker: So, um, you know, we, we kind of mentioned that in that episode, but yeah, she's connected to that.
Speaker: She's also like known as a fairy that's associated with the realm of the dead. And lore states that if you spot her, that you will die within three days. But if you only hear her, then that means someone you know and are close to will die. And this changes though, throughout this whole lore, because there has been sightings of, or there has been, what am I trying to say?
Speaker: Accounts of people seeing her not dying, but somebody else close to them has died. So really who knows? But, um, essentially what you can expect from a banshee, the banshees don't cause death. They only serve as a warning. And a lot of people, while it can be scary, they look at it as, this is a way to give families time to prepare if they were to hear or see the banshee.
Speaker: I know like in the Morrigan episode, the Morrigan is tied to being a Banshee sometimes too. And that like that where you were talking about hearing her like could be like a sign of death. It was that with her with the Morrigan, it was on the battlefield.
Speaker: like her shrieks were like some people would just like cower and fear and die and then like other people would get like rallied and it was like depending on which side she was on was usually the winning side she gave them like I don't know not like power but she just like made them feel like oh we're gonna we're gonna do this and then they would usually win yeah yeah so um
Speaker: The Banshees often would appear to someone who may be entering a situation where it might not be clear if they would come out alive like a battle. And by hearing her, I'm of course referencing her shrieking or wailing noises that are often associated with Banshees.
Speaker: And the scream is known as Cowan or Keening. And it said that her shrieking is enough to shatter glass, which would be really fucking loud. So hopefully no one ever hears this. But the history of the banshee dates back as far as, I mean, outside of just like mythology, it dates back to as far as eighth century. And there's a tradition where women would sing sorrowfully to
Speaker: I have two there. They would sing sorrowfully when someone passed and these women were known as keeners, hence where we get keening from. And as payment, they would accept alcohol. And because of this, you were said by the church to be sinners, who would be doomed to become banshees when they died.
Speaker: But I'm just like, you know what, if I'm doing a service, I expect to get paid. Like I am singing for your deceased loved one. Yeah. You pay me. And I will say thank you. Like they used a lot of, especially like back in old times, they used alcohol to keep warm in the winters, like whiskey or, you know, like that's where like a lot of things like cotties or, you know, they used it as medicine and ways to keep warm. So. Right. But because it's women, like being resourceful. Yeah.
Speaker: So in 1380, there were mentions of the Banshee reported in Norman literature. And there are similar tales of this witch -like fairy creature reported in Scottish and Welsh mythology as well. And in 1437, the Scottish King James was said to have been approached by a Banshee. Some say it was disguised as an Irish seer. But either way, they didn't scream at him.
Speaker: just foretold his assassination at the hands of the Duke of Athol, who eventually trapped King James in a sewer tunnel where he was fatally injured and probably died of like sepsis or something disgusting, which is really gross. Yeah. And in Scotland, I looked this one up, so just FYI.
Speaker: Similar to the banshee, she's described as a woman in green who is seen attempting to wash a shroud and that signifies that a death is coming. However, in Scottish lore, the coo and yak can be stopped if you stand between her and the river she is going to wash her shroud in. I'm just saying if I saw that, you just, I don't care. I don't care. I don't want anything to do with this. I didn't see anything. I don't want to have any part of this.
Speaker: I am not standing in front of this mythical cryptid while she's trying to watch her crowd. That's just me though. No, you stay dirty. Get out of here. Yeah. Bye bye.
Speaker: So the appearance of the banshee really just depends on which mythology you read, but Irish lore states that each family, well some Irish lore dictates that each family has their own banshee, which would make sense since there are different forms in which she's appeared.
Speaker: but she's often seen in one of three forms again harkening back to the morgan and even just the triple goddess. She can be seen as a young maiden and this is known to lure people in with her singing much like a siren and often she's depicted with red hair. She's also depicted as a full -figured matron with silver hair and a silver dress
Speaker: or as a crone with red eyes and a green dress with long white hair. And some have even reported a headless woman naked from the waist up carrying a bowl of blood. What is with the headless cryptids? They're like, there's this maufan with giant eyes, but his eyes are not in his head because he doesn't have one. They're in his chest. Yeah. And this one, she's just carrying a bowl of blood. She's headless, naked from the waist up, but she's screaming.
Speaker: How? Where's the screen coming from? Also from her chest. From the bowl? I don't know. I'm not sure.
Speaker: Um, and she's also seen as an old woman covering her face with a veil dressed all in black. So really, like I said, it just depends on which lawyer reading. Some people have seen her many different ways, but most commonly she's reported to be wearing a gray cloak and her eyes are when she has eyes are usually red due to weeping.
Speaker: So those who report seeing the banshee as a young, beautiful woman often report that instead of a terrifying shriek, she instead sings a beautiful, but sorrow -filled song. And these banshees are often believed to have strong familial ties with the family that they're connected to. And so the song is usually heard a few days before loved one passes to prepare them that a loved one is going to pass.
Speaker: But on the flip side, the screaming banshee that we are all familiar with, the legend here is that the banshees were once women who had a strong reason to hate their families. And they appear to be frightening and filled with hatred. The keening that is heard from these banshees reportedly celebrates the demise of someone that they loathed in their life. So I guess if you do hear a banshee screaming,
Speaker: You know what, there's a good chance that maybe she hated you. Or someone that she hated died. Yeah. She's like, fuck yeah.
Speaker: And then with the Banshee, there's tales of soldiers abandoning their posts because they heard the wailing of a Banshee and they were terrified because they didn't want to die. But of course, many of the soldiers who abandoned their posts would either be killed by their own armies for desertion, killed by their enemies while trying to flee, or even killed by the elements if they were trying to hide and they didn't know where they were and they were lost.
Speaker: So this only fueled the legend surrounding the Banshees, but there are other legends connected to the Banshee. So outside of the reports of familial Banshees, there's a lore that dictates that she is the ghost of a young girl who suffered a brutal death and that her spirit remains to warn others that a violent death is imminent. I actually like this. I don't like that. There's like this lore that this young girl died a very violent death, but the fact that she's like warning other people, I like that part.
Speaker: Another legend warns that some banshees take pleasure out of taking life and they actively seek out victims and wail at them to the point the person either commits suicide or goes insane. I'm just imagining you're just like, fucking stop. Please stop. Like, come on. And she's just like, not until you kill yourself.
Speaker: That sounds like the worst. Yeah. And if several branches are seen at once, it's said that a great person or a holy person has died. I don't believe that one because like it goes back to like Celtic lore, like this predates Christianity. Why would they give a shit? You know what I mean? And then if you see a banshee combing her hair with a silver comb,
Speaker: It's recommended that you don't touch the comb because you might be whisked away to the spirit realm. And I mean, obviously you die. So. Wow. Yeah. She's like, don't touch my fucking comb. Right. I wasn't fucking done using it. Thank you. Straight to death. Yeah. And while banshees are largely believed to be legend, there are still occurrences of banshee sightings and hearing a banshee cry, even like to today.
Speaker: And so I wanted to leave off with a story that I found which I thought was pretty intriguing but in 2014, someone heard what they thought was a cat call and then the sound kind of morphed into a shrill scream that seemed to be getting closer and closer.
Speaker: to the person who was witnessing it. And it was just getting louder and louder. The person said that they even saw a woman standing out in the open with her head back screaming so loud, it was hurting the person's ears. And this person was indoors at the time. So they were looking at this person from the window. And so the police were called, but they couldn't find anyone around and nobody in the area reported hearing anything.
Speaker: And so the police actually suggested to the person that maybe what they saw was a banshee and which could you imagine calling the police and they're like, it's probably a cryptid. You know what I mean? Like it was just Mothman don't even worry about it. It's fine. Um, but later that same night, the person who witnessed this scream and saw the banshee, quote unquote, had a death in their family.
Speaker: So wow. Interesting. I will say though, like I remember as a kid, I, and again, who knows it could have been like cats because you know, cats and heat can be really, they sound really creepy, but I just remember like vividly, um, when I was a kid, this is going to sound crazy and I swear to God, I'm not crazy.
Speaker: But I remember like waking up, I was in I think fourth grade at the time, like I was really young.
Speaker: I remember waking up because I kept hearing like a noise in our kitchen and I like, it was, the lights were all out. I couldn't figure out what was going on. And I was so scared. I didn't know what the noise was in our kitchen though, but it just sounded like somebody was like moving things around and it was creepy. But then the next day, and the only time I remember that is because of what happened the next day.
Speaker: The next day when I woke up, my dad and my stepmom were like, did you guys hear anything weird last night? And I was like, I heard like noises in our kitchen and my dad and stepmom told us what, I don't know why they told us this when I was in fourth grade, but apparently there was somebody screaming outside their bedroom window, like in our, their bedroom window, they start backyard. So like someone would have had to be inside our backyard screaming out their window. It sounded like somebody was.
Speaker: just screaming out the window for like a good 15 minutes straight and they thought it was a banshee and they were too afraid to look out the window because they didn't want to die. I'm the first one that's like, what's going on out here? Literally, you know, the car alarm was going off before we started recording and I was like, hold on, I need to go be a nosy neighbor.
Speaker: Yeah, but they were like so freaked out by it. And the fact that like, so yeah, somebody could have been screaming outside their bedroom window, but I didn't even hear it. And I was awake. But you heard noises in the kitchen. That's gross. Yeah. That is creepy. Creepy. Who knows? Could it have been a banshee? I don't know, but I do know that shortly after that, my stepmom's brother passed away. So. Ew.
Speaker: Could have been Mothman. Could have been Mothman. I'm just saying. Who knows? Maybe it was a Frogman. Frogman. We don't know. The Chupacabra. Yeah. He was half goat. I'm just kidding. It is funny how a lot of these cryptids have little things like that that connect to them, like being, you know, bringing death or like cataclysmic events when you see them or Hinkai. Hinkai.
Speaker: which would be cataclysmic for me, is it just reminds me too of that girl, is she on your TikTok for you page, the girl with the sty, that Australian girl? You sent me some and I was like, no. I am invested in this story, but there is like, that just reminded me of the sty girl. And I'm just like, I couldn't imagine dealing with that. I'm invested in this Adam Levine drama. It is so good.
Speaker: It is so good. I think I sent you the one of the girl that dated this chick's brother. And she's like, she was a major bitch and she's probably lying. She's probably created all of this. Literally. And then did you send me one? I'm not sure if you sent this to me or if I sold it on my own. I think you might've sent it to me where the girl was just like, Hey, just real quick on Instagram, like whenever you send the DM or whatever, it shows your name.
Speaker: Uh, but like you, it's not your handle. It's your name. Change that. Yeah. Or created an account from like his handle as the name. I do think he, she knows like multiple times, but I wonder if the name, like I want to name my kid after you was a fake message.
Speaker: Yeah. I think it was based off of that particular TikTok where she had like several people message her to check. And I was like, Oh, I didn't even think about that. Yeah. I never would have like, who would have thought about that? I'm glad she did though. And she investigated that. Yeah. What a crazy pants. Crazy pants. I mean, you know what? It doesn't surprise. I just, you know, it's like one of those people you just kind of know are sleazy, but you don't know why they're sleazy. Like he's sleazy.
Speaker: And what sucks is like his first, their first album was so good. Everything else has sucked. So we like marine five. But again, we have talked about this. Like we grew up where they played at our state fair all the time. So like, we like grew up listening to them when they were no ones. So we have, it's like a nostalgic attachment, I guess. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker: We like Marin Five. We've paid to see them in concert. They put on a great show, like a great show. I've never seen them live, but I only like, that's the only thing is like, I would hate to see them live because I only liked their first album. And so I'm sure they only pay play like two songs off of that now because their discography or whatever is so large. Yeah. Like I would just be bored the rest of the time. So. I don't know when we saw them, we saw them in Germany and they played a lot of the old stuff.
Speaker: I think because it's just so iconic. That's like what they're really known for. But that first album was amazing. So good. I still listen to it like all the time. Yeah. But I'm so mad at him. How could you cheat on your wife? I don't know that he did cheat with this girl. I think she lied.
Speaker: Well, I think, I mean, I do think that she's lying about at least the name thing, but I wouldn't put it past him. Like, because I think there, there was blind items, a lot of blind items about him in the past where like he's cheating, like a list singer turned like, you know, TV phenomenon or whatever, like from the voice or whatever the show, whatever that show is about is Victoria's secret wife. Like, so I don't know.
Speaker: I don't know. I don't know. I feel bad for his life. Like the one chick said that, that girl is like a marketing major or whatever. She knows exactly what she's doing. It is blowing her account up. Oh yeah. And everybody's so invested in it. It is everywhere. It is. I just like all the people that are like, uh, actually I know this bitch. And then they show proof and they're like, she's insane. Yes. Or like the ones that were just like Adam Levine, um,
Speaker: I interviewed him and he didn't DM me and it was ugly. Yeah. That was insane. There was like five in a row that I saw that were like that. Like one time I had an interview and they show like a picture of them interviewing and they're like, he never sent me any messages. So that's how I knew I was not attractive. Right. Pretty funny.
Speaker: Yeah. But anyway, well, I hope you guys enjoyed our cryptids episode. Yes. Go, if you're bored, research some cryptids. They'll bring some joy to your life because they're hilarious stories. They are.
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