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Lots of People Have Brothers ft. Tyler McGladdery
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*** PLEASE NOTE THIS EPISODE WAS RECORDED BEFORE KEATON JENNINGS STEPPED DOWN AS LANCASHIRE CAPTAIN ***
Tom and Jamie speak to club cricket's greatest run machine, Northern's Tyler McGladdery, the day after he made a match-winning century in the National KO. Topics include: Tyler's match-winning century in the National KO; Virat Kohli, what a Test player he was; Lancashire, what a bad start to the season they're (still) having; sluggish scoreboards; wicketkeeping attire; and club cricket... wicket machines? Is that a thing?
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Transcript
Introduction and Host Banter
00:00:42
Tom Evans
Hello everyone and welcome to the Last Hour Cricket Podcast, a podcast about cricket in Merseyside and beyond. and My name is Tom Evans from Merseyside Cricket Online and I was going to say, as always, I'm joined by my co-host Jamie Bowman, but I can't say that anymore, can I Jamie? because Because last time you weren't here, were you?
00:00:59
Jamie Bowman
No, I'm sorry. I'm sure um sure it was much better without me. I'm sorry, Tom.
00:01:03
Tom Evans
No. you
00:01:04
Jamie Bowman
i like I let myself down. I let the cricket in public down. I'm sorry.
00:01:08
Tom Evans
It was a choice between that and letting your wife down on her birthday and you chose to...
00:01:10
Jamie Bowman
Yeah, it's true. My marriage was at stake, I had to go out.
00:01:13
Tom Evans
It's clear...
00:01:16
Jamie Bowman
had to go out
00:01:16
Tom Evans
Well, it's it's clear where your priorities lie from now on.
00:01:18
Jamie Bowman
yeah
00:01:19
Tom Evans
um Let's just say that.
Guest Introduction: Tyler Magladry
00:01:22
Tom Evans
Delighted to have as our guest ah for this episode, a man who, over the last couple of years, has been one of English club cricket's greatest run machines, the
00:01:31
Tom Evans
only man ever to make 1,000 runs in two separate seasons in the Loveland Liverpool competition Premier Division, And a member of Northern's national T20 winning side is, of course, Tyler Magladry.
00:01:41
Tom Evans
Tyler, thank you for coming on.
00:01:43
Tyler Mcgladdery
ah Thank you for having me, Tom. Jamie, thank you.
00:01:46
Tom Evans
No worries.
00:01:46
Jamie Bowman
Yeah.
Club Culture and Match Insights
00:01:47
Tom Evans
What's the worst excuse a teammate has ever used for not for not showing up to an important game, Tyler?
00:01:52
Tyler Mcgladdery
So not showing up to an important game. Well, to be honest with you, at Northern, there's no excuses. So, ah yeah, be I'll be struggling with that one.
00:02:00
Tom Evans
Good answer.
00:02:02
Tyler Mcgladdery
we We all have a bit of an understanding that you you're not missing any games, whether it unless you're seriously injured or or like Cepho maybe sometimes, just trying it on.
00:02:12
Jamie Bowman
yeah yeah
00:02:14
Tom Evans
And I bet your teammates were glad that you showed up on Sunday for your National Cup game against Longridge because ah you made a match-winning century, didn't you?
00:02:23
Tyler Mcgladdery
Yeah, it was well, I think I was glad I turned up as well after a few two slow slow games. and Yeah, good good to get a monkey off the back with 100. I'm glad that you highlighted that on your write-up this morning. Not that I was already thinking about that prior to the season and when I was on about 99 yesterday as well. So thanks for that, Tom.
00:02:45
Tom Evans
Well, I was going to say, does the milestone matter or how much does it matter to you? Because you know you got 90s a couple of times last season, including in the the national knockout final. And you know that if that got that day had gone differently, that would have been much more important than than any 100 you'd ever scored, presumably. so you know it's a But but but is is the milestone still significant?
00:03:08
Tyler Mcgladdery
Yeah, I think obviously they not getting one last year, probably wasn't that bothered because we ended up at a national final or two national finals and and and obviously I'd have taken them over scoring 100.
00:03:12
Tom Evans
Mm-hmm.
00:03:23
Tyler Mcgladdery
Obviously, the 90 wasn't to be in the final. But I think yesterday i was you know I knew if you get one away early season, like I did the season prior, you can then sort of forget about it and they sort of come a bit easier after that.
00:03:39
Tom Evans
yeah Do you feel like it's to good conditions for batters this year? I know it's early in the season, but the weather we've been having is lovely, isn't it?
00:03:47
Tyler Mcgladdery
Yeah, yeah it's ah it's got that feeling that it it might be a similar season to 2023 with how dry it's
Batting Conditions and Strategy Discussion
00:03:56
Tyler Mcgladdery
sort of been. But then again, the the scores so far haven't really been you know reflected of that.
00:04:01
Tyler Mcgladdery
i don't know I don't know why, but whether the wickets are too dry, ah might be that might be a reason
00:04:08
Tom Evans
Mm-hmm.
00:04:12
Tom Evans
Nobody Premier Division has made us made a century yet, but I think the game I was at on Saturday, certainly Ian Cobain would have done if Formby hadn't reached their target.
00:04:12
Jamie Bowman
It was a...
00:04:21
Tom Evans
the the The outfield at Wallasey was straw-cored, certainly at one end, where it got got the most of the sun.
00:04:26
Tyler Mcgladdery
yeah Yeah, absolutely.
00:04:28
Tom Evans
um you know It just seems to be unusual for for me.
00:04:34
Tyler Mcgladdery
and Northern was like it would be in in August, I think. It's it's pretty similar.
00:04:37
Tom Evans
Mm-hmm.
00:04:38
Tyler Mcgladdery
it probably needs a bit of that stuff in the sky to to green it up a little bit. Otherwise, yeah, like you say, a few the boys diving around, you know, moaning already, which you're not usually doing.
00:04:48
Tom Evans
Yeah.
00:04:50
Jamie Bowman
how will they see How are the seam bowlers feeling about it? Because usually in April, May, they're sort of licking their lips at some nice green tops and it's it's the opposite, isn't it?
00:05:02
Tyler Mcgladdery
Yeah, yeah the the game we played ah played on Saturday, I think Liam bowled three overs up top and I think he threw the towel in after that. and Spin, spin from that point onwards.
00:05:14
Tyler Mcgladdery
um Yeah, yeah i know he I know what you're saying about the seamers, but ah you know the spinners didn't have much to do last year, did they, I suppose?
00:05:19
Tom Evans
Thank
00:05:22
Tyler Mcgladdery
you know It was quite wet, so enter those guys this season.
00:05:24
Tom Evans
you.
00:05:28
Jamie Bowman
Yeah, yeah. so it was it was On paper, it looked a pretty tough draw in the cup on Sunday, but you negotiated it okay. Tell tell us about the match and you your century.
00:05:40
Tyler Mcgladdery
Yeah, so we've, we've not to not to sort of surprise anyone here, we've we've decided, obviously, finished finished on the second in the last couple of seasons in a row. and um know And we've been playing on wickets, which, are you know, it's hard to take 10 wickets like it's on and and, you know, draws have probably cost us.
00:05:58
Tyler Mcgladdery
ah So we've decided this season to play on pitches maybe that suit us a little bit more. Yeah. The only problem with doing that is you're risking a lot on the toss at times.
00:06:12
Tyler Mcgladdery
you know At Rainhill we were were were in trouble, ah we played it on a similar dry wicket and we managed to to get out of trouble there when it looked like we could have lost that one quite easily. um and Then yeah we played on ah on and on a used one, I think it was day five that that had been on.
00:06:28
Tyler Mcgladdery
and there'd been a bit of a ball draw between Yorkshire and Lancashire's second team on it maybe a week and a half ago. and And we're just trying to get a result pitch together and, you know, where it didn't really fall into our hands.
00:06:42
Tyler Mcgladdery
But that's just the the risk of having a flat one next to it that we decided not to play on. But then we played on that one on Sunday and, you know, the other team were 200 for none after 30 overs.
00:06:52
Jamie Bowman
Thank you.
00:06:53
Tyler Mcgladdery
So yeah you could have played on that one on the on the Saturday and it would have been a completely different game. But, you know, yeah we need we need to... need to roll the dice to get some results. So, yeah, Sunday, it was nice to turn up on on a flat on a flat flat wicket. And even though they got going, we obviously back ourselves if if one of us gets in to to knock them off. And and we've got of one of the things we've done in the past is our depth in our batting. So, um you know, I'd like to think if they'd got 260, 270, we were still been in and around knocking that off. But I'm sure the few of us were worried when there were 200 and 10 of us left.
00:07:28
Tyler Mcgladdery
and no his left
00:07:29
Jamie Bowman
yeah what When you play these cup games against teams from other leagues, i mean you it how do you think the standard weighs up between the comp and and and some of the Lancashire teams?
00:07:33
Tom Evans
Thank you.
00:07:40
Jamie Bowman
you know do Does it make you feel like you're playing in the right league and and you know the standard's higher? or i mean how How do you write al you rate the sides you're coming up against?
00:07:51
Tyler Mcgladdery
Yeah, I think the the the Northern League top side really strong. GMCL team is really strong. Lanks League, we're playing Darwin away this weekend. Lanks knockout, again, that we expect them to be really strong.
00:08:03
Tyler Mcgladdery
ah Home advantage is obviously is massive for us, with a lot of them grounds not being the size that Northern is.
00:08:03
Tom Evans
Thank you.
00:08:10
Tyler Mcgladdery
um And then them teams are used to being able to maybe have a short boundary that they can get out to or or if you know if they need to to pick up the run rate. Whereas Northern's probably more about accumulating and hitting gaps and and running hard, which is something that we pride ourselves on and fielding well and outfielding other teams.
00:08:30
Tyler Mcgladdery
and So, yeah, the standard, obviously, we play timed cricket, don't we, on a Saturday? and And a lot of other teams play that cup cricket where they've got to use so many bowlers.
00:08:40
Tyler Mcgladdery
So they're used to to to doing that.
00:08:40
Jamie Bowman
Thank you.
00:08:44
Tyler Mcgladdery
and I think we are quite a well-known team. So teams know, turn up and and know what to expect now because we've been, you know, around for, for the last three years. Everyone knows the process that we're going to, that we're going to use.
00:08:55
Tom Evans
All right.
00:08:57
Tyler Mcgladdery
So ah people aren't as, teams aren't as shocked now, I don't think as they were maybe in the past. So, Yeah, the the but the the teams we come up against, you know, they're strong. If you go and play away teams, you know, i would play like I say, we're playing Darwin. If we'd have played Longridge away, I fully would have expected that game to to be a even tougher than it was.
Streaming and Opposition Analysis
00:09:19
Jamie Bowman
You can even watch footage now, can't you, of some of the teams? I mean, with the streaming now going on, it's amazing, isn't it?
00:09:26
Tyler Mcgladdery
Yeah, yeah, it is.
00:09:27
Jamie Bowman
You really get to know your opposition.
00:09:28
Tyler Mcgladdery
yeah the I know Gary Knight alerted me saying, you know, I saw McKinnon bowling some offspin. So I had to dip onto the Wallasey stream the other day just to see that with my own eyes.
00:09:36
Tom Evans
Thank you.
00:09:40
Tyler Mcgladdery
And yeah, yeah it can be useful. It can also be detrimental, especially for you if you're maybe an umpire or a player who's played a bad shot.
00:09:51
Jamie Bowman
We had Sefton against yeah we we are dead the did the game are on in our bar on Saturday on the laptop. It was amazing. You know it's you can watch ah you know a game away from town.
00:10:03
Tyler Mcgladdery
Yeah, yeah.
00:10:04
Jamie Bowman
Amazing. But yeah, good stuff.
00:10:07
Tom Evans
Yeah, and um obviously Lee's win at Northern on Saturday means that they and Ormskirk are the two sides in the Prem with 100% record so far. um Obviously, very early days, but they've come out of the blocks very well. um How does that ah the lad they've got from from Nottinghamshire look? that but Ben Martindale got 90-odd on um Saturday, doesn't Does he look like a a quality addition for Lee?
00:10:33
Tyler Mcgladdery
Yeah, he's a ah very good player. um
00:10:35
Tom Evans
yeah You had the best seat in the house to watch him, didn't you, because you were keeping...
00:10:38
Tyler Mcgladdery
Yeah, he started off he's just a very, very organised cricketer and then he bowled some some handy medium pace as well. So i would i don't know I don't think he's going to be available. think he opened in the blast for them. So when the white ball stuff starts, I don't think he's going to be available for the full season. But I would expect him, if he was, to be right up there as a leading and unscoring the league if he played all 22
00:11:03
Tom Evans
Well, we had Carl Brown on the podcast a few weeks ago, who's sort of Lee's school holiday specialist, because he's only available in the school holidays.
00:11:09
Jamie Bowman
Thank you.
00:11:10
Tom Evans
So they've got another top-order batter who's not available in the school holidays, then between them, they've got a player for the whole season, haven't they?
00:11:16
Tyler Mcgladdery
yeah Yeah, i would expect him to do very very well.
00:11:17
Tom Evans
guess.
00:11:19
Tyler Mcgladdery
And he yeah I was quite impressed with the way the way that he battered, suggested that he he was quite happy to play the comp style of cricket as well.
00:11:29
Tom Evans
Good. It's good that the league can ah and attract players from from all around, I guess. um Looking at Division 1, Jamie, I'm sure you've seen the top of the Division 1 table where Sefton Park are one of three teams, along with Liverpool and Southport and Birkdale, to be on three wins out of three.
00:11:33
Tyler Mcgladdery
Yeah.
00:11:44
Tom Evans
um And it's the it's it's the big one on Saturday, isn't it? The the South Liverpool derby.
00:11:48
Jamie Bowman
Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's and a really big one, yeah, considering the the start the two teams have had. Yeah, going to be a great day if the weather's like this. Good bar take, good crowd. I'm really really looking forward to that game on Saturday.
00:12:03
Jamie Bowman
And yeah, I mean, i think i wouldn't I don't think I'd offend too many people by saying we've been a little bit taken aback by the start of Sefton Park. It's been you know really positive. I think a few people were even tipping us for relegation. So, you know, it's ah it's been really positive. You know, I think we realised we've got actually got a pretty good bowling attack and some of the some of the batters have really come good as well. Obviously, Paul's such an experienced captain and player.
00:12:33
Jamie Bowman
So, i've got a good leader and yeah, it's looking like very positive. But as i think as you you brought me down just before the episode, Tom, by reminding us about the great start we had last season as well. So,
00:12:44
Jamie Bowman
you know, a lot can change, can't it?
00:12:46
Tom Evans
a marathon, not sprint.
00:12:48
Jamie Bowman
Yeah, very much so.
00:12:48
Tom Evans
but also sprinting out the blocks in Division 2 at Ainsdale Caldy, I should say are also unbeaten. um Looking slightly further afield than the comp, there was a cracking innings for Oxeton on the Wirral at the weekend, wasn't there, Jamie?
Virat Kohli's Retirement and Legacy
00:13:01
Jamie Bowman
Yeah, yeah, really good. I mean, obviously, I cover a lot of the the games for the ah the Globe, the Weirall Globe, so I sort dip into the ah cheshire the Cheshire Leagues and, you Couldn't help headline-making Dane Williams hitting 162 not out for Oxton in their win against Brooklyn in the the Premier League. So, fantastic effort. yeah 162 not out.
00:13:27
Jamie Bowman
You ever scored one that high, Tyler?
00:13:30
Tom Evans
May.
00:13:31
Tyler Mcgladdery
a
00:13:33
Tyler Mcgladdery
yeah i got Yeah, I reckon once, but it's see it's ah it's not something you do very often, I don't think, in club cricket, because you don't get can't get the chance to do it, do you?
00:13:43
Jamie Bowman
Yeah, I was trying to work. ah I'm terrible at maths, so I sent to ah send the stats to Tom to work it out for me, didn't I, Tom? and it was And he 24 fours and three sixes.
00:13:52
Tom Evans
Thank you.
00:13:57
Jamie Bowman
So that's 114 runs in boundaries. So not bad going. So yeah, round of applause for Mr. Williams there. Excellent innings.
00:14:08
Tom Evans
um And looking even further afield, and obviously the the Test match summer is about to get underway. the big news, well, that the first bit of big news was that Rohit Sharma has retired from the Indian side that's going to be touring.
00:14:22
Tom Evans
and that was immediately usurped by the even bigger news that Virat Kohli is retiring from Test cricket. um I think it's easy to be sort of ah it's easy to be cynical about Virat Kohli.
00:14:35
Tom Evans
There's a this there such a sort of a mythology built up around him almost, but I think, in all honesty, he is quite possibly the best ever three-format international batsman.
00:14:47
Tom Evans
um given that the likes Tendulkar didn't really play in the T20 age um to keep up the levels that he has for so long. I think Virat Kohli has done something very special indeed in his career. He's obviously still going be playing the white ball stuff, but he's retiring from Test cricket now. And I think He's done Test Cricket a great service as well by um someone of his profile um could have made himself an extremely wealthy man for the rest of his life by not giving a damn about Test Cricket.
00:15:18
Tom Evans
But he didn't. He loved Test Cricket. um He loved playing it. He said quite often that it was his favourite form of the game and the one he wanted to succeed in the most. And, you know, ah obviously he decided that the time is right.
00:15:30
Tom Evans
um Still never won a series in England, Virat. but a Bit of a shame for you there. But... But it's a ah fantastic career. And um'm yeah, lots of lots of great memories of watching him back. Just wish he hadn't done so much of it against England personally.
00:15:45
Tom Evans
Do you agree, Jamie?
00:15:47
Jamie Bowman
Well, it's hard not to, isn't it? I mean, he's he's been one of the best of our generation, you know, no doubt. I mean, it's a shame in a way I've seen quite a few people sort of gloating about how he's kind of it'd sort of fallen off his usual form in the last few years.
00:16:01
Jamie Bowman
And he has, I think it's, um he's averaged 32 in tests over the last two years.
00:16:05
Tom Evans
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:16:06
Jamie Bowman
ah compared to 55, which was his peak in 2019. But you know how can you argue with some of those figures? What was it, three double centuries he scored in 18 months in one period? you you know and And as you say, it was more than that. it was the attitude. I think he gave...
00:16:24
Jamie Bowman
You know, he improved the fitness, the attitude, the fielding, everything about India and the way they played test cricket and made them a real force and kind of dragged them kicking and screaming into the modern modern age, really.
00:16:36
Jamie Bowman
um Yeah, I think i think it's a real shame we're not going to see him this summer, to be honest. I was looking forward to it.
00:16:40
Tom Evans
yeah Yeah, definitely. like Yeah. Do you watching Coley, Tyler?
00:16:46
Tyler Mcgladdery
Yeah, obviously he's had an unbelievable career. I think I did actually mention to a couple of lads, and probably just before the Australia tour, that I would expect Ashwin, Sharma and Kohli to retire after that.
00:17:03
Tyler Mcgladdery
i and actually ah that's actually probably come to fruition now hasn't it so the reason being they've got that many good cricketers coming through he probably feels that it's the right time or they probably both feel it's the right time to let those new guys come through um and just continue playing the white ball stuff.
00:17:24
Tyler Mcgladdery
However, I did read that the BCCI were trying to beg him to stay on for the England tour. and How true that is, I don't know. And there is a money aspect to it. And he obviously brings in a lot of of of spectators, doesn't he?
00:17:38
Tyler Mcgladdery
Just because of the personality that he is. But I think they're probably the right thing
00:17:40
Tom Evans
his His box office.
00:17:42
Tyler Mcgladdery
Yeah, he probably is the right thing to do and step away and let some of them other guys come in and that he might have been holding back the last few years. Yeah. yeah
00:17:51
Tom Evans
I think India might have wanted to avoid sort of, you know you know, what happened to Australia after 2007
00:17:59
Tom Evans
Warne and McGrath and Langer and, you know, so not long after Ponting all went in sort of quick succession. They don't want that kind of, not so much ah a retirement, more sort of extinction event. They don't want to have to build a whole new side.
00:18:13
Tom Evans
I think given the amount of talent they've got, um, coming through. I don't think there'll be a problem um in terms of replacing Coley and Sharma in the batting order. I do wonder about and English conditions, whether we if we get proper English conditions this summer, um then they might be lacking a little bit of experience.
00:18:33
Tom Evans
So it's' it's a tour they very much want to win. um India have, you know, the they've dominated Test cricket um ah alongside the Australians, much as it pains me to say, um over the last few years.
00:18:44
Tom Evans
But ah they haven't won a series in England since 2007, and seven and that that is something that they'll very much want to put right. But it's just a question of whether they have that but experience. But yeah, Virat Kohli, undisputably, are great. um Obviously, it's...
00:19:00
Tom Evans
I think for English cricket fans, um it does sort of raise the spectre that if if one of the big four can retire, then and you know Steve Smith um and Kane Williamson will also retire one day. And even even Joe Root will retire one day.
00:19:15
Tom Evans
And I don't think that's something that any English cricket fan wants to think about, is it?
00:19:19
Jamie Bowman
No, it's interesting. yeah As you say, you might be yeah it's it's the first of the of the big four, isn't it, to kind of give up test cricket?
00:19:25
Tom Evans
Mm-hmm.
00:19:27
Jamie Bowman
um the other i mean, to be fair, the other three all seem quite set at the moment, don't they? I don't see any sound.
00:19:33
Tom Evans
Well, they don't as much white belt stuff, I guess, do they?
00:19:36
Jamie Bowman
Yeah, yeah they did they all seem pretty set on it. So, yeah, it'll be interesting. I mean, yeah, it sounds obvious. Again, big summer for Joe, isn't it? You know, it could if it goes well, you could see him playing again.
00:19:48
Jamie Bowman
couple more years, definitely. If it doesn't go well, who knows? It could be the end for him at the end of this summer. But I'd be surprised if that happened. I mean, he's just such a reliable batter, isn't he?
00:19:58
Tom Evans
Mm-hmm.
00:19:59
Jamie Bowman
And you think it and a good player is spin as well. So you think he'd survive this summer and not just survive, prosper it.
00:20:04
Tom Evans
yeah
00:20:10
Tom Evans
He's got a monkey of his own to get off off his back, obviously, in Australia. And I guess, you know, whatever level you're playing at, you know, you have to have those personal goals to keep you going, don't you? say You know, were talking about your century, Tyler, and I guess, you know, even when things are going well, you kind of want to be looking to the next milestone, looking to the next thing that you've not quite achieved before to sort of keep yourself motivated.
00:20:31
Tom Evans
Is that fair to say?
00:20:33
Tyler Mcgladdery
Yeah, absolutely. I think with Root, England are playing it very cleverly, aren't they? They know how good he is in Test cricket and they've sort of kept him away from the white ball side as long as they sort of can do, giving other guys opportunities so that they can sort of keep him hungry with the red ball stuff. And it seems like Joe Root's the one who's trying to get into them white ball teams. Yeah.
00:20:56
Tyler Mcgladdery
and going and playing these tournaments to try and get into him. He went away and played that T20 in South Africa, didn't he? So it seems like he's the one that's hungry to get in the white ball team and not just content with playing the red ball. So um ah I could see him playing for another three or four years, if I'm if i'm honest.
00:21:13
Tom Evans
Well, fingers crossed he does because he would leave a ah huge hole in England's batting line-up, a lot bigger than the hole that Coley left, as great as he is. um after I have to say that the best...
00:21:25
Tom Evans
live sport I've ever seen in person was ah the England v India Test match Edgbaston in 2018. It was one England won by about 30 runs. think Ben Stokes took the last few wickets on the on the fourth morning and it was sort of ebbing and flowing for four whole days. sure that Kohli absolutely carried India in that game.
00:21:46
Tom Evans
He made a you know he made ah ah Great century in the first innings and he was on 50 in the second innings. India were chasing a fairly low total, but their top order had collapsed around Kohli and he was carrying the whole team.
00:21:58
Tom Evans
And it was a fantastic individual performance and contributed hugely to what was a great test match and a great memory. So, um yeah, Virat Kohli, huge, huge player.
00:22:08
Jamie Bowman
I think, yeah. I think, Tom, I mean, whatever happens, I mean, I know it's the changing of the guard, but you just know with India there's going to be another battle that's going to come along, much like Cody did after Tendulkar.
00:22:20
Jamie Bowman
So, you know, i wouldn't I wouldn't get too excited that India are going to yeah not be a force this summer or for the years coming going forward.
00:22:25
Tom Evans
No, I'm not.
00:22:30
Jamie Bowman
I mean, they've got 14-year-old who looks pretty good, doesn't they?
00:22:34
Tom Evans
Yeah, we'll see. Although he got a duck in his second IPL innings, didn't he? So, you know, he's peaked too soon, perhaps.
00:22:38
Jamie Bowman
I know. Happens to the best of us.
00:22:44
Tom Evans
Well, didn't you say you got a red Inca at the weekend, Jamie?
00:22:46
Jamie Bowman
Yeah. Two not out.
00:22:48
Tom Evans
You averaged more than Tyler over the weekend, then, because you...
00:22:52
Jamie Bowman
Good man.
00:22:54
Tom Evans
um ah Elsewhere in cricket, um we we should talk about Lancashire a bit, shouldn't we? um A really...
00:23:00
Jamie Bowman
Do we have to?
00:23:01
Tom Evans
ah bit Really disappointing start the season for them. Five games in the county championship now, four draws and a particularly limp performance against North Ants, I think, um down ah down at Wontage Road. um not Not the sort of the batting track they're used to at Old Trafford, but um that they bowled okay. They kept North Ants down to ah fairly low score, but they never really looked like chasing their target. and and It's difficult to say what's going on there, isn't it?
00:23:28
Jamie Bowman
Yeah, it is. i mean It felt like a good opportunity for a reset. you know Whenever they've gone down before, they've come straight back up.
00:23:35
Tom Evans
Thank you.
00:23:37
Jamie Bowman
It's kind of bought the good you know brought the feel-good factor back. But this this series i mean sorry this season is already feeling like it could be a long one. And and when you're losing to the likes of Northamptonshire, Leicestershire, all respect to those clubs, these are the sort of clubs you expect to be beating.
00:23:59
Jamie Bowman
um given yeah the size of the of Lancashire, the resources, the population, the cricketing population.
Lancashire's Season Challenges
00:24:07
Jamie Bowman
it's ah yeah it's it's it's it's It's difficult times. yeah And the only real plus point has been the form of Marcus Harris, really, isn't he? He's been very good so far. He scored, I think, was it four 50s in his first, four half centuries in his first four innings or something like that?
00:24:26
Jamie Bowman
It was a record anyway.
00:24:26
Tom Evans
Yeah, that was very well.
00:24:28
Jamie Bowman
um and ah and a ton as well. So, but apart from that, yeah, it's been slim pickings and it's looking very worrying, bottom of the table and worst, you know, officially the worst ah count, you know, the worst pro county in the, in the country. So where they go from here, ah don't know, but I mean, it's unusual for a cricket team to get rid of the coach, isn't it?
00:24:50
Tyler Mcgladdery
Thank you.
00:24:50
Jamie Bowman
Mid-season doesn't, you it it's not like football really.
00:24:50
Tom Evans
Mm-hmm.
00:24:52
Jamie Bowman
So, but some questions have really got to be asked to think about the appointment of, uh, of Dale Bekenstein because it's not looking like a good appointment so far.
00:25:04
Tom Evans
Not worked, has it? um Tyler, as someone who's, you know, you've been on the sort of on the periphery of of the, you know, with the the professional level of the game for a while now. Do you sort of hear any kind of whisperings? you do Do you have any sort of insight as to what might be what might be the problems at Lancashire? Because that there's no problem with with the amount of talent in the talent pool, is there? Are they identifying it, do you think?
00:25:28
Tyler Mcgladdery
I think you've got to look at when you're playing in the second division, draws are just not going to get you promoted. And i they've been batting for a draw, i think, for the last four games before this one ah up on the final day.
00:25:46
Tyler Mcgladdery
ah They've played of the played all three three home games at Old Trafford, which have all resulted in a draw.
00:25:47
Jamie Bowman
Mm-hmm.
00:25:52
Tyler Mcgladdery
and
00:25:53
Tom Evans
Uh-huh.
00:25:53
Tyler Mcgladdery
Surely with the ah quality that they've got, you would potentially be producing and result wickets to try and make sure you you you've got more quality than North Ants on paper, a Leicestershire on paper, a Gloucestershire on paper. And the They've been batting for a draw on the final day against those teams. So maybe it's time to have a look at bringing... They've got a good record at Blackpool, haven't they?
00:26:21
Tyler Mcgladdery
Liverpool, Southport, maybe maybe they've missed a trick with playing games on the outgrounds to try and get results. Even if they lose one of those games but win two, it's better than drawing all three, isn't it? So um I would have said that is maybe a trick that they've missed.
00:26:42
Tom Evans
Yeah, because the deck at a test ground is always going to be sort of that much that much flatter, isn't it, and and in general? Because they're built to last five days rather rather than four, aren't they?
00:26:53
Tom Evans
So you think sort of outgrounds would would suit Lancashire better at this stage in their cycle, do you think?
00:26:58
Tyler Mcgladdery
they I just think results, you've got to bat yourself to to get promoted. You've got to get results and you've got to bat yourself to to play on result wickets with the quality that you've got. I mean, it does from the outside look a bit strange when you've got George Bell, who's a middle order bat, wicket keeper opening the batting and Luke Wells is batting six.
00:27:19
Tyler Mcgladdery
ah the overseas although Marcus Harris has absolutely gunned it so far he is an opening batter batting at four so it does just seem a little bit strange I think they played Hartley albeit I know the game goes a certain way I think it won over at Northampton it just all seems a little bit surely Wells could have bowled that the overs if they needed but an extra ball or a batter and it just seems all a bit i desperate at the moment, doesn't it?
00:27:39
Tom Evans
Yeah.
00:27:46
Tyler Mcgladdery
um Albeit you can look a bit stupid in making comments like that and and they could turn it around, couldn't they? But I really do think that they're playing on result wickets on outgrounds when you're in Division 2 is massive home advantage.
00:27:58
Tyler Mcgladdery
You can prepare the wicket how you want it prepared and and go from there.
00:28:02
Jamie Bowman
What do you think, sorry, I was going to say, Tyler, what do you think about the kind of recruitment policy or ah more the fact over the last few years, a lot of homegrown players have have kind of come into the team, done pretty well in certain cases and then left and then
00:28:03
Tom Evans
Oh, sorry.
00:28:18
Jamie Bowman
done very well at the new county. it It seems to be a running theme. You know but you look at people like Alex Davis, Parkinson, Hamid, they've all sort of come and gone, these local lads who were at Lancashire through and through, and and now we're seeing them at other counties playing well against Lancashire.
00:28:34
Tom Evans
First,
00:28:38
Jamie Bowman
It seems bizarre, frankly.
00:28:41
Tyler Mcgladdery
yeah Yeah, I mean, you've got to look at the second team that they're putting out at the moment. ah I think a few years ago and when when I thought it was playing in them, like the second teams, you had, I think, Danny Lamb, you know, Lily, Jordan, Clark, Toby, all guys who were established first team player, Rob Jones.
00:29:03
Tyler Mcgladdery
You know, I see when he when he dropped down, you've you've got guys like that who have all moved on.
00:29:07
Jamie Bowman
Yeah.
00:29:09
Tyler Mcgladdery
who are established first-team cricketers. And now they're looking around when things are a bit rough and thinking, well, who who are they bringing in?
00:29:11
Tom Evans
Thank you.
00:29:16
Tyler Mcgladdery
ah The guys who they would have been bringing in have obviously gone and seeked opportunities elsewhere, haven't they? So, i yeah, they've they've shot themselves in the foot.
00:29:21
Jamie Bowman
yeah
00:29:25
Tyler Mcgladdery
Whether that, we you know, we don't know why those guys left, whether they were pushed out of the door, whether they decided to go and and get bigger contracts elsewhere with more opportunities to play first-team cricket.
00:29:37
Tyler Mcgladdery
You don't know, do you? so You have to beg the question, though, of the lack of depth that they've got at the moment to bring in.
00:29:43
Jamie Bowman
that That roll call of names you just listed that you played with is astonishing. You know, what ah what a great team that was.
00:29:50
Tyler Mcgladdery
It's just waste's just one of them. they they A few years ago, you know ah york they played Yorkshire last week at Northern and Yorkshire had 11 pros playing. I think Lancashire had three or four.
00:30:02
Jamie Bowman
Hmm.
00:30:02
Tyler Mcgladdery
and
00:30:03
Tom Evans
Yeah.
00:30:03
Tyler Mcgladdery
So that just tells you that Yorkshire have got those those guys who can go up and play first-team cricket. They've got a pick of a lot. And Lancashire are looking around after the first five games thinking who we're going to pick.
Dressing Room 101: Cricket Pet Peeves
00:30:18
Tom Evans
Excellent. i thought I think that's Lancashire dealt with. So um it's it's probably time to ah and to move on to the bit that Tyler, before we started recording, said he was he was really looking forward to, which was dressing room 101, in which our guest will ah put forward a candidate to be ah to be banished from the cricketing landscape for once once and for all.
00:30:40
Tom Evans
and ah Jamie and I will ah well decide whether or not but whether one on it it it passes the test. So go on, Tyler, what have you got for us?
00:30:49
Tyler Mcgladdery
Okay, so that kind of suggests that you wanted an individual. Okay,
00:30:52
Jamie Bowman
No, it didn't.
00:30:54
Tom Evans
and little Literally everybody. where I'm going to have to start putting my foot down about this if this podcast goes on any longer because people are coming up with like three, four, five at a time and we're going to run out of things.
00:31:04
Tom Evans
Every cricket related thing is going to have either been put in put in dressing room 101 or not. But go on. How long have you got?
00:31:12
Tyler Mcgladdery
I have
00:31:14
Tom Evans
Give give us them all.
00:31:15
Tyler Mcgladdery
Okay, well, I've got a couple. and The first one I've been a bit of a victim of, as James Cole has has decided that he he wants me to, um he what he wants to play some some of the games or one game a weekend that I've ended up wicket keeping.
00:31:18
Tom Evans
ah
00:31:32
Tyler Mcgladdery
So i ah I don't have long sleeve playing shirt. So what has happened is, obviously, I thought I'd be keeping at the start of the season a few games. So I've just got a long sleeve jumper.
00:31:45
Tyler Mcgladdery
Now, ah didn't really expect it to be 25 degrees for the first four games of the season.
00:31:49
Tom Evans
more
00:31:52
Tyler Mcgladdery
So I have actually ended up wicket-keeping in a long-sleeve jumper with a short-sleeve jumper with the new sponsor for the first four games of the season. and So oh
00:32:04
Tom Evans
So what what what what is it that you're putting into dressing? Is it heat? Is it jumpers?
00:32:08
Jamie Bowman
Exactly.
00:32:08
Tom Evans
well
00:32:08
Tyler Mcgladdery
wicket-keepers cannot categorically wicket-keep in short-sleeve shirts.
00:32:14
Tom Evans
No, everyone knows that. No, yeah.
00:32:16
Tyler Mcgladdery
i so And I've got a real problem with that, but now I've made it a problem because um I'm sold for that.
00:32:16
Tom Evans
25 degree
00:32:25
Tyler Mcgladdery
They have to use long sleeve shirts. I'm now wearing two jumpers on a Saturday 25 degree heat.
00:32:30
Tom Evans
heat.
00:32:34
Tyler Mcgladdery
So yeah, that would be my first one. and The
00:32:38
Tom Evans
Well, the taboo against wicketkeepers in short sleeves, is is that...
00:32:42
Tyler Mcgladdery
Yeah, ah completely that. the The fact that people are just, it's just a no-no. But then if you don't have a long-sleeved plain shirt, you then have to do it in a jumper. But if you don't have the correct sponsored jumper, you then have to put a a new short-sleeved jumper over a long-sleeved jumper.
00:32:58
Tyler Mcgladdery
And I've been losing kgs every Saturday since the start of April, ah which isn't right.
00:33:04
Jamie Bowman
That's good though, isn't it? Isn't that good?
00:33:06
Tyler Mcgladdery
It's just the worst thing.
00:33:06
Tom Evans
you
00:33:07
Tyler Mcgladdery
I drank a lot of beer this whi this winter, so it's not the end world.
00:33:09
Tom Evans
I don't
00:33:11
Tyler Mcgladdery
ah The second one would be, as a batter, and I know some people won't be that bothered, and when a scoreboard is not up to date,
00:33:13
Tom Evans
know.
00:33:21
Tyler Mcgladdery
Whether it be one run on the batter's total, whether it be on the total runs, i just whether it be the over one behind, I just cannot stand it. I don't know what you two think about that, but i um as a batter batting out there, I hate it.
00:33:37
Tyler Mcgladdery
ah i would say that a lot of people wouldn't be that bothered as long as it gets updated, but it has to be updated at the right time for me.
00:33:46
Jamie Bowman
you know are you not a counter tyler do you never know what you're on
00:33:47
Tom Evans
Yeah.
00:33:50
Tyler Mcgladdery
a counter to when I've not scored many and I'm desperate to to get them on the board. That's when I'd say that I was a counter. eight Or if you're chasing a score, if you're chasing a score down and you know there's been a leg by or a single missed or it's been put on the wrong person or it just eats away at me.
00:34:01
Tom Evans
yeah
00:34:08
Tyler Mcgladdery
and I'm sure some of the umpires know that because ah I'm always pecking their heads to get it sorted.
00:34:15
Tom Evans
ah I'm going to deal with your second one first. um I think my position of going to games on a Saturday and covering them live on my laptop or on my phone, um the scoreboard is absolutely crucial to that.
00:34:28
Tom Evans
um The position I had ah on Saturday, I couldn't see the scoreboard, so i was having to rely on um play cricket updating, and play cricket just sometimes decides not to update. It's a very...
00:34:40
Tom Evans
very yeah Fickle piece of software. So that that was that was particularly bad. But when there's a scoreboard that you can see, but it's not updating on time, um no that but that's what that's that's a real bugbear of mine as well.
00:34:53
Tom Evans
i'm Jamie, I'm sure we've both played cricket at levels where um the scoreboard is just members of the batting team with the with with the numbers, hanging the numbers on the on the hooks.
00:35:04
Jamie Bowman
yeah yeah
00:35:04
Tom Evans
And someone has to shout over to them. to get them to do it.
00:35:08
Jamie Bowman
every over yeah
00:35:08
Tom Evans
um and what In fact, I keep thinking of things in my own personal dressing room 101, which I'll have to do for the Christmas special or something. But i'm when batting teams refuse to put the wickets on the scoreboard, I've been in that situation before.
00:35:23
Tom Evans
you've been in You're in the field, you've taken a wicket, and they haven't bother and put it on the scoreboard.
00:35:26
Jamie Bowman
Yeah.
00:35:28
Jamie Bowman
Yeah.
00:35:29
Tom Evans
but Yeah.
00:35:29
Jamie Bowman
i'm ah I'm all for this.
00:35:29
Tom Evans
Yeah.
00:35:30
Jamie Bowman
is As someone who's turning more and more into a full-time scorebook, operator. i'm turning more you know Accuracy is becoming very important to me and constantly shouting out Bowler's name is ah is one of those.
00:35:44
Tyler Mcgladdery
Oh,
00:35:46
Jamie Bowman
and yeah I'm all for accuracy on the scoreboard. yeah I'm with Tyler on this. I think i think generally general standards need to be upped.
00:35:54
Tom Evans
Absolutely.
00:36:01
Jamie Bowman
You're in. Well done.
00:36:03
Tom Evans
So, inaccurate scoreboards game. Now, but back to your first one. um
00:36:10
Tom Evans
I'm sure we all agree, though, that a wicket-keeper, big gloves, short-sleeved shirt, it just aesthetically, it just looks wrong. Like, it didn't come out of nowhere, did it?
00:36:21
Jamie Bowman
What I'd say, Tom, though, did you used to feel about this the same way about goalkeepers? And then that seemed to change that seemed to change, didn't it, in the mid-90s when you had... I'm trying to think of the Mexican goalkeeper who had you came with now bright kit, short sleeves, and the whole fashion changed, and all of a sudden you saw you saw goalkeepers in in in short-sleeved shirts and gloves.
00:36:35
Tom Evans
Yeah, and I am the really bright kit
00:36:46
Jamie Bowman
And I think it looked quite good. I worry about their elbows.
00:36:48
Tom Evans
I'm lacking my brains out.
00:36:50
Jamie Bowman
They looked good.
00:36:50
Tom Evans
I do remember a wicketkeeper keeping in a test in short sleeves, and I can't remember who it was. um
00:36:56
Jamie Bowman
I think he looks quite cool. And i'd rather I'd rather they did that than in Tyler's poor case, lost loads of weight and eventually passes out. I think it's... I mean, how hot were you, Tyler? Yeah.
00:37:08
Tyler Mcgladdery
Well, obviously, it was more the fact i didn't want to use, didn't want to brand last year's sponsor, but that was my long sleeve jumper.
00:37:08
Tom Evans
but
00:37:14
Tom Evans
like
00:37:17
Tyler Mcgladdery
So then I had to wear the short sleeve over the top of it, plus the plain shirt underneath, and stood up to the stumps most of the day in 25 degree heat. Yeah, not not ideal.
00:37:29
Tyler Mcgladdery
So...
00:37:29
Jamie Bowman
Has someone actually told you that you can't wear a lot or is it just that?
00:37:32
Tyler Mcgladdery
oh No, nobody said that at all. It's just, it's that much of a hate of mine.
00:37:34
Jamie Bowman
Yeah.
00:37:37
Tyler Mcgladdery
You can't, I just have to follow through with this.
00:37:38
Jamie Bowman
Right. Okay.
00:37:40
Tom Evans
Adam Perori.
00:37:42
Jamie Bowman
Right.
00:37:43
Tom Evans
um Adam Perori has kept wicket in a test in short sleeves.
00:37:43
Jamie Bowman
Very good. Yeah. He was good, wasn't he? He was a good keeper too.
00:37:48
Tom Evans
A very good keeper, yeah, but it just, it doesn't look right. And I don't think, i don't I don't think you'd want to, because, you know, if you got rid of that, that taboo, just so you were a bit more comfortable behind the stumps, Tyler, I think you'd open the floodgates then.
00:38:04
Tom Evans
You'd have wicket keepers in shirts, in short sleeve shirts.
00:38:05
Tyler Mcgladdery
I
00:38:08
Tom Evans
You'd, you know, You couldn't just make an exception to it for for yourself, could you?
00:38:12
Jamie Bowman
vest tops maybe i
00:38:16
Tom Evans
Like, who was it in the it was Cameroon, wasn't it, in the African Cup of Nations? though they the the
00:38:19
Jamie Bowman
yeah
00:38:20
Tom Evans
but They played in vests, didn't they?
00:38:23
Tyler Mcgladdery
ah think you have to be very good to to do that. So um I'll stick with the long-sleever for the moment.
00:38:28
Tom Evans
Yeah, I think we need to keep i think we need to keep a lid on this or we're going to be besieged by wicketkeepers in short sleeves, so I'm afraid...
00:38:43
Tom Evans
you're just going to um just gonna have to suffer. Sorry.
00:38:48
Tom Evans
Anyway, speaking of suffering, um it's time for um the bit that Tyler was even more excited about, which was stump the host. So what have you got for us?
Cricket Trivia Segment
00:38:58
Tyler Mcgladdery
Right, so I will credit the Premier League Cricket Show here. They have given me something that hasn't been released yet.
00:39:02
Tom Evans
Okay.
00:39:06
Tyler Mcgladdery
And i think you guys are going to really like this. and
00:39:09
Tom Evans
Is this a table that you're at the top of?
00:39:12
Tyler Mcgladdery
No, do you know what? I could have gone down that route, but I decided that I'm not going do that.
00:39:13
Tom Evans
Oh, ah but I've got that straight away, to be honest.
00:39:18
Jamie Bowman
Thank
00:39:18
Tyler Mcgladdery
I'll go the other way. So you two, have a list of the top 10 wicket takers from the Liverpool and District first 11 Premier League since 2014, as of last week, I'm assuming, and not that it will change much.
00:39:36
Tyler Mcgladdery
And you need to name all 10 of these.
00:39:40
Tom Evans
10, OK. When we get one, can you tell us how many wickets they've got?
00:39:45
Tyler Mcgladdery
Yes, I can do that.
00:39:48
Tom Evans
OK, Rewika.
00:39:49
Tyler Mcgladdery
Rewka is number three on the list with 335 wickets.
00:39:54
Tom Evans
um Safton?
00:39:57
Tyler Mcgladdery
Sefton is number one on the list with 666 wickets.
00:39:59
Jamie Bowman
oh
00:40:00
Tom Evans
Your team, mate.
00:40:03
Jamie Bowman
does he know that tyler
00:40:04
Tyler Mcgladdery
He does, yeah. I told him that the other day. ah He said, well, you can add another six on after the weekend, I think.
00:40:12
Tom Evans
Yeah. um So for for listeners who are not quite so au fait with what we're talking about, that's Wallasey's Indian slow left-arm, Summit Ririka, who had a four or five years at Wallasey, won the league with them in 2022, and Northern stalwart Tom Sefton, another left-arm spinner.
00:40:31
Tom Evans
There's going to be a lot of left-arm spinners, this, isn't it, Jamie? Yeah.
00:40:35
Jamie Bowman
Yeah, yeah, it is. um Chris Firth?
00:40:39
Tyler Mcgladdery
Chris Firth is number 4 on the list with 325 wickets.
00:40:45
Tom Evans
off spinner for Southport and Birkdale, retired this year, which is a big, big, big loss to them.
00:40:57
Tom Evans
Yeah.
00:40:58
Tyler Mcgladdery
a So go with longevity would be my, and in that period, not necessarily, you know, the most potent ones who have just come for years.
00:41:02
Tom Evans
Are
00:41:06
Tom Evans
i'm we talking on top flight only?
00:41:10
Tyler Mcgladdery
Yes, top flight only, yes, Premier League.
00:41:12
Jamie Bowman
about Chris Stenhouse.
00:41:13
Tom Evans
Dotters, John?
00:41:15
Tyler Mcgladdery
Nope and nope.
00:41:17
Tom Evans
No no John Dotters, Rainford, captain left arm spinner, no Chris Stenhouse, Birkenhead Park, former a captain, wasn't he?
00:41:19
Tyler Mcgladdery
Not in the top 10, no.
00:41:25
Tom Evans
um Seema recently returned to the club. um
00:41:31
Tom Evans
Qureshi,
00:41:32
Tyler Mcgladdery
Qureshi is on the list. Number seven.
00:41:35
Tom Evans
a former teammate of yours at Rainhill, of course.
00:41:36
Tyler Mcgladdery
He's got... Correct. um The one person I was very happy standing short leg to.
00:41:43
Jamie Bowman
how good was How good was he, Tyler?
00:41:46
Tyler Mcgladdery
He was exceptional, yeah. And he loved he loved just mopping up and the tail enders as well. you you I think I only got hit there once in maybe... however many games I played with him.
00:41:59
Tyler Mcgladdery
Not many people swept him. He was yeah exceptional and I'm sure everyone else would agree. He was on 270 wickets and he was number seven on the list.
00:42:11
Tom Evans
spinner, um Ashraf, Nawab.
00:42:14
Tyler Mcgladdery
Correct. Number two on the list he is. So you've 389 wickets. So you've now got Sefton in one, Ashraf in second, Ruikar in third, Chris Firth in fourth and ah Qureshi in seventh.
00:42:29
Tom Evans
So we need 5th, 6th, 8th, 9th, 10th.
00:42:32
Tyler Mcgladdery
Yes.
00:42:34
Tom Evans
Are we doing better than you expected?
00:42:36
Tyler Mcgladdery
You are doing better than I expected so far, but i um I'm also expected to go downhill from this point and you're going need some help.
00:42:37
Tom Evans
no
00:42:41
Jamie Bowman
that
00:42:43
Tom Evans
Are there any seamers on the list?
00:42:46
Tyler Mcgladdery
there are one two three seamers that you've not got so far
00:42:54
Tom Evans
Okay. And how many um overseas players have we not got?
00:43:01
Tyler Mcgladdery
there are no more overseas players correct number five on the list 324 wickets
00:43:05
Tom Evans
Right, okay.
00:43:06
Jamie Bowman
Scott Lees? Oh yes.
00:43:14
Tom Evans
Scott Lee's a title winner with Ormskirk in the last two years, of course.
00:43:16
Jamie Bowman
Ormskirk, Seema, that was the clue, it was the Seema's.
00:43:19
Tom Evans
Yeah.
00:43:21
Jamie Bowman
It must be, anyone else at Ormskirk, Tom?
00:43:23
Tom Evans
but what what what sort of number but what How many wickets was Koresh Because he was seven, wasn't he um
00:43:28
Tyler Mcgladdery
Yeah, Koreshio was 270. and You've got one above him, so you need number six, and then you need number eight, nine, and ten.
00:43:43
Tom Evans
Right. Let me see.
00:43:45
Tyler Mcgladdery
i can <unk> i can start giving clues if you want.
00:43:45
Tom Evans
I'm focusing on the seamers now.
00:43:49
Tom Evans
I think we've had enough clues for now, personally.
00:43:51
Tyler Mcgladdery
Okay.
00:43:55
Tom Evans
and Sam Marsh?
00:43:58
Tyler Mcgladdery
Nope.
00:43:59
Tom Evans
No. Jamie Barnes?
00:44:01
Tyler Mcgladdery
Nope.
00:44:02
Jamie Bowman
i was going to say but I was going to say that.
00:44:02
Tom Evans
No. That's the other Armscirt ones.
00:44:05
Tyler Mcgladdery
He is in the top, I think he's in the top 15 or the top 10.
00:44:07
Jamie Bowman
I was going to say Jamie Barnes, yeah.
00:44:08
Tom Evans
Yeah.
00:44:09
Tyler Mcgladdery
Not the top 10.
00:44:09
Jamie Bowman
um
00:44:10
Tyler Mcgladdery
I have cut this down to save us some time.
00:44:16
Tom Evans
I mean...
00:44:18
Tyler Mcgladdery
It's a good job you can edit the pauses, isn't it, Tom, to make yourself look a bit more like it?
00:44:20
Jamie Bowman
It is, it is. Nah,
00:44:21
Tom Evans
I can, but I think the pause is add something to it to show that we're really working on it. you know
00:44:24
Jamie Bowman
it's dead air.
00:44:26
Tom Evans
I'm not just going to edit it so we're just rattling off the 10 names. That's the end of the podcast by everyone. you know you You've set us a good question. I want it so i want it to be known.
00:44:36
Jamie Bowman
Oh, dude.
00:44:39
Tom Evans
um i mean, he got a hat full wickets last year and has been around a few years. Matty Keogh?
00:44:46
Tyler Mcgladdery
Matty Keogh is not on the list.
00:44:49
Tom Evans
No. Wallace, he got 50-odd last year. Now, I know because I looked this up that no Seymour had got 50-odd since
00:44:59
Tom Evans
i Chris Wilcox, who was ah it was an overseas, so it won't be him either.
00:45:05
Tom Evans
um
00:45:07
Tyler Mcgladdery
Let's go with, there is two currently playing in the Liverpool Comp Premier Division. And there are Liam Gray.
00:45:14
Tom Evans
Oh, hang on. Liam, Liam Gray.
00:45:17
Tyler Mcgladdery
Yes, he's in number nine. He's number nine and he's got 259 Nope.
00:45:23
Tom Evans
Great.
00:45:25
Tom Evans
Okay, I can't think of any else um any other Northern players who might be up there.
00:45:29
Jamie Bowman
um I'm going to... i need Martin Farrell?
00:45:33
Tyler Mcgladdery
nope
00:45:33
Tom Evans
Ooh.
00:45:34
Jamie Bowman
No.
00:45:35
Tom Evans
Did have a few years out of the firm, didn't he? Right,
00:45:39
Jamie Bowman
He did. yeah i was just thinking of longevity.
00:45:43
Tom Evans
so that's two of the seamers. There's one more seamer and three to get in total.
00:45:46
Tyler Mcgladdery
Yep.
00:45:48
Tyler Mcgladdery
Yes.
00:45:50
Tyler Mcgladdery
I'm very surprised that you haven't got number six yet in terms of currently playing in the division.
00:45:58
Jamie Bowman
Oh, no.
00:45:59
Tom Evans
Is there someone who's going to be mad madab about me not getting him as well?
00:46:03
Tyler Mcgladdery
I think so.
00:46:03
Tom Evans
Toby Bolcock.
00:46:04
Tyler Mcgladdery
Nope. Would have been on the list if it was top 16.
00:46:11
Jamie Bowman
See, we're not miles away, are we?
00:46:11
Tom Evans
Could have just said he's number 16.
00:46:13
Tyler Mcgladdery
You're not.
00:46:15
Tom Evans
um
00:46:17
Tom Evans
I'm mentally going through the clubs now. mckinnon matt mckinnon yeah of course he don't think he'll mind that i'm game i think that's
00:46:22
Tyler Mcgladdery
Correct. Matty McKayna. Number sixth on the list. He's got 301 wickets up until...
00:46:34
Tyler Mcgladdery
I suppose he went out of the league, didn't he, work to...
00:46:35
Tom Evans
yeah yeah he's playing for playing for derbyshire for a while
00:46:36
Tyler Mcgladdery
and so So now these two don't currently play at all, I believe. and So you could say both retired. One is a seamer and one is a left-arm spinner.
00:46:51
Tom Evans
Okay.
00:46:55
Tom Evans
How long ago did they retire? Was it before I started covering Liverpool competition in 2018?
00:47:01
Tyler Mcgladdery
They are both...
00:47:01
Tom Evans
What is...
00:47:03
Tyler Mcgladdery
in my To my memory, they've both retired or stopped playing in the last four to five years.
00:47:13
Tom Evans
what is
00:47:14
Jamie Bowman
It's not Robbie Horton, is it?
00:47:14
Tom Evans
um
00:47:16
Tyler Mcgladdery
Nope.
00:47:16
Jamie Bowman
No.
00:47:17
Tom Evans
Chris Bourne.
00:47:18
Jamie Bowman
Chris Bourne.
00:47:18
Tyler Mcgladdery
Chris Vaughan. Yes. 268 wickets.
00:47:24
Tom Evans
ah The Wallace-y bowl over there. Off-cutters, wasn't it? They always bowled.
00:47:28
Tyler Mcgladdery
yeah And a leg cutter that he groaned at, I think, as well.
00:47:33
Tom Evans
ah It's okay. Yeah.
00:47:34
Tyler Mcgladdery
But I think he did when he when he did retire, I was in the book of people he got out the most in his career.
00:47:39
Tom Evans
Yeah.
00:47:41
Tyler Mcgladdery
So, yeah, I enjoyed signing that one. ah the
00:47:47
Tom Evans
So there's one more left arm spinner.
00:47:49
Tyler Mcgladdery
Yeah, this one's tricky.
00:47:49
Tom Evans
Is he number 10 we're looking for, is it?
00:47:53
Tyler Mcgladdery
Yeah, this one's tricky. This one's real cricket knowledge, I think.
00:47:59
Tyler Mcgladdery
and forgotten bit of a man.
00:48:00
Tom Evans
You're going to have to give us a club.
00:48:05
Tyler Mcgladdery
He's he's an all-rounder and his team are no longer in the division.
00:48:14
Tom Evans
Okay. um i We've had a New Brighton player. We've had a Southport and Birkdale player.
00:48:24
Tom Evans
Another New Brighton player.
00:48:27
Tyler Mcgladdery
You're on the right.
00:48:28
Tom Evans
Title winning captain Martin Evans.
00:48:31
Tyler Mcgladdery
No.
00:48:32
Tom Evans
He is still playing though. He's still playing.
00:48:34
Tyler Mcgladdery
Keep going, in Tom.
00:48:36
Tom Evans
Keep going.
00:48:38
Tom Evans
So it is New Brighton then.
00:48:40
Tyler Mcgladdery
Correct.
00:48:42
Tom Evans
I'll hand you over to my Wirral cricket expert co-host.
00:48:43
Jamie Bowman
No, no, don't do that. You make me look stupid.
00:48:48
Jamie Bowman
Oh no, New Brighton.
00:48:51
Tom Evans
But retired.
00:48:53
Tyler Mcgladdery
was playing in their league winning side.
00:48:57
Tom Evans
the um All I can think of doing is guessing Martin Evans again, and I don't think it's going be him this time.
00:49:02
Jamie Bowman
We can keep saying it, it's not going to happen.
00:49:02
Tyler Mcgladdery
Nope.
00:49:04
Tom Evans
Yeah.
00:49:05
Tyler Mcgladdery
Now you're going to kick yourselves.
00:49:06
Tom Evans
I'm sure it's not Martin Evans.
00:49:07
Tyler Mcgladdery
I am i'm very positive, Tom.
00:49:13
Tom Evans
He did take a lot of wickets and was playing in that side.
00:49:18
Jamie Bowman
oh no
00:49:20
Tom Evans
ah Give us an an initial.
00:49:23
Tyler Mcgladdery
He has a brother.
00:49:25
Tom Evans
but That wasn't what I asked.
00:49:27
Tom Evans
I said, can you give us an initial?
00:49:27
Tyler Mcgladdery
yeah ah thought you'd get that straight away when I said that.
00:49:32
Tom Evans
lots Lots of people have brothers.
00:49:35
Tyler Mcgladdery
Yes, but both played and they both played in that side.
00:49:36
Tom Evans
but
00:49:42
Tom Evans
this is This literally is before my time.
00:49:44
Tyler Mcgladdery
oh easy Okay, the initials.
00:49:45
Tom Evans
You were the Echo's Cricket Writer when this was happening, Jamie.
00:49:48
Tyler Mcgladdery
The initials would be DW.
00:49:49
Jamie Bowman
I know. Give
00:49:52
Tom Evans
Oh, um David Weil.
00:49:54
Tyler Mcgladdery
Correct.
00:49:54
Tom Evans
David Weil.
00:49:55
Tyler Mcgladdery
There we go.
00:49:55
Tom Evans
Right.
00:49:56
Tyler Mcgladdery
Jamie, you've got to hang your head there, I think, haven't you?
00:50:00
Jamie Bowman
sorry Sorry, David.
00:50:01
Tom Evans
I
00:50:05
Tyler Mcgladdery
You've got to hang your head there.
00:50:05
Tom Evans
think that took about ten minutes, I think. that Well, that wasn't too bad. I'm quite happy with how that went.
00:50:09
Jamie Bowman
We got them.
00:50:11
Tyler Mcgladdery
He did get them, yeah.
00:50:11
Tom Evans
I'll...
00:50:12
Tyler Mcgladdery
I thought i thought that was a... um Yeah, I thought that was... He would have been in the in the lead in the top 10 run scorers as well, by the way.
00:50:22
Jamie Bowman
Really? Wow, that's impressive.
00:50:23
Tom Evans
Wow.
00:50:23
Tyler Mcgladdery
Yes. So, yeah, obviously a very, very good cricketer that we don't really talk about anymore.
00:50:30
Tom Evans
Yeah. No, you've got point. who was Who would have been top of the top 10 run scorers, Tyler?
00:50:36
Tyler Mcgladdery
i ah You'll have to wait for it to be published, Tom.
00:50:39
Tom Evans
Will I? Okay. um Well, I don't think I'll be waiting on
00:50:43
Jamie Bowman
We'll to get him on guest when we find out.
00:50:48
Tom Evans
Excellent. um Good stuff. Well, thank you very much for that, Tyler. Thank you for the quiz and thank you for coming on. It's been really enjoyable. Who have you got at the weekend?
00:50:59
Tyler Mcgladdery
We've got a trip to Colwyn Bay on the Saturday um and then we have Darwin away in the first round of the Lancashire knockout.
00:51:02
Tom Evans
Nice.
00:51:06
Tyler Mcgladdery
So we beat them.
00:51:07
Jamie Bowman
yeah Doing some miles this weekend then.
00:51:09
Tyler Mcgladdery
Yeah, we beat them in the semi-final, Darwin, as well. So I'm fully expecting them to be really up for that one and after we we beat them a couple of seasons ago. So, yeah. Yeah,
00:51:18
Jamie Bowman
you like playing at Colwyn Bay? It's a bit of a, you know, know known as a batter's paradise, isn't it?
00:51:21
Tyler Mcgladdery
love Colwyn Bay. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, I love going down there. i Decent record, so I'll probably put the mockers on myself there.
00:51:29
Tom Evans
Jamie, you're
00:51:32
Tyler Mcgladdery
And the T's, when you used to get three T's as well, oh they they were they were worth going for it.
00:51:37
Tom Evans
up, you're up.
00:51:39
Jamie Bowman
the The balcony of the dressing room is nice, isn't it? I always think. It's lovely view.
00:51:42
Tyler Mcgladdery
Steps are very steep, though, and Jenks isn't there this year, and i always enjoyed having a ah beer with Jenks after the game, so that ah that will be that will be annoying that he's not there to have a bit of a laugh with.
00:51:44
Jamie Bowman
yeah
00:51:55
Tom Evans
ah jamie yo you Games at the weekend? You playing?
00:51:59
Jamie Bowman
Well, after Saturday's performance, I doubt I'll be picked, but we've we've got...
00:52:04
Tom Evans
You're two not out. What are you talking about?
00:52:06
Jamie Bowman
Yeah, but I bowed one over for 14. So, um yeah.
00:52:10
Tom Evans
Gone for more than that.
00:52:12
Jamie Bowman
i we're not We're not away, so they don't need my car.
00:52:12
Tom Evans
We've all gone for more than that.
00:52:16
Jamie Bowman
um They might need me to do the score, but but way exactly but we're playing.
00:52:20
Tom Evans
OK.
00:52:21
Tyler Mcgladdery
Make sure you get the scoreboard right.
00:52:21
Tom Evans
Well,
00:52:24
Jamie Bowman
but the the yeah the I think the 4th-11 are playing. Liverpool's 4th-11, so it's a double it's a double derby at Sefton Park. So, it's going to be good.
00:52:33
Tom Evans
And of course, the Thunder Cup game is on Sefton's ground on um Sunday, isn't it?
00:52:36
Jamie Bowman
yeah Yeah.
00:52:38
Tom Evans
That should be a good good occasion, that.
00:52:40
Jamie Bowman
Yeah, really good occasion. I'd urge anyone to come down on the Sunday, especially if you've got girls who play cricket, because it's going to be a great occasion. that I know they've got a lot ah lot planned.
00:52:50
Jamie Bowman
And yeah, seeing the Lancashire girls turning out for Sefton Park's women's team is going to be a very special moment, I think, for everyone the club who's been involved with the women's side of the game there and establishing it. yeah, it's going to be a great day.
Conclusion and Listener Engagement
00:53:10
Tom Evans
Good stuff. Excellent. Well, I hope that all goes well. Tyler, thank you again for coming on. And um thank you for listening.
00:53:15
Tyler Mcgladdery
No worries at all.
00:53:17
Tom Evans
Please do like, subscribe, rate, comment, review, whatever your podcast platform of choice lets you do. If you enjoy it, spread the word. Please. want to um build up as much momentum as we can with this. I'm going to try and record episodes more frequently.
00:53:33
Tom Evans
ah Now the season's up and running. So yeah, up to it hope to be speaking to you again on this ah on this platform soon. Thanks very much for listening. Bye-bye.
00:53:42
Jamie Bowman
Bye-bye.
00:53:43
Tyler Mcgladdery
All right.