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Extended Clip - ‘Inter Are Getting Ratf****d’ - Nima vs Carlo In Epic Inter Penalty Row (Ep. 394)
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NB: We apologize for the foul language in this clip.
After Fiorentina were given a penalty kick against Inter Milan following Yann Sommer punching first the ball and then M'Bala Nzola, Nima Tavallaey and Carlo Garganese clash in a fiery debate over whether Inter are being ratf****d by the Serie A referees.
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Transcript
Penalty Incident Analysis
00:00:02
Speaker
Welcome to the Italian football podcast. Now Soma on Unzala, the penalty that was given to Fiorentina. So Soma comes out, punches the ball and then punches Unzala on the follow through with force and endangering the opponent. So by modern rules, for me,
Penalty Rules: Feet vs. Hands
00:00:22
Speaker
it's a clear penalty. Now, this is what Morelli
00:00:23
Speaker
Even remotely the penalty and I'll tell you why because the situation is when it comes to, this is not with the foot. It's different when it comes to the foot where there are clear instructions from the superiors at IFAB about what happens, which we're going to get to in the Milan Bologna game.
00:00:42
Speaker
There is no chance this is a penalty because his eyes are on the ball, he hits the ball first, Anzola is trying to hit it and when he punches the ball it also hits Anzola one second after.
Consistency in Penalty Decisions
00:00:59
Speaker
There is no doubt whatsoever that Sommer takes the ball first. There is no doubt about this and that's the key here.
00:01:08
Speaker
And astonishing. It's not about getting the ball. If you get the ball and then take the player after in the box, and in this particular instance, getting the ball is irrelevant. It's not irrelevant, because less than two years ago, Mike Mignon knocked out Lovato,
00:01:28
Speaker
for Milan and everybody was in agreeance there that no it's unfortunate it's this time the other but it's not a penalty. Luca Marelli himself literally say questo non emai rigore per me. This is never a penalty for me. The situations are identical.
00:01:44
Speaker
I mean, I haven't seen that incident. If it was the same as this incident, then it should have been a penalty.
Interpreting IFAB Rules
00:01:49
Speaker
That's all I would say. Because this incident, I mean, Morelli says, Morelli gave him- Morelli said then- Morelli gives the rules here. He says in the video- Morelli said then, less than two years ago, question on my- Okay, whatever. I don't care about what happened two years ago. I'm talking about this incident. Well, I care about this because the complex- What you do is forget about the what's about incident all the time.
00:02:06
Speaker
them and just it's not what about this it's not what about let me say what my ready said in this instance what about is them this is nonsense this is this is the rat-fucking I was talking about two weeks ago laying the groundwork to wrap fuck well we're still waiting for that yesterday let me tell you something clear there is no chance you can't function
00:02:26
Speaker
opponent after it doesn't matter if you got the ball. You didn't punch the opponent. You punched the person in the head. Unless you play for Milan or Juve or anyone else, you're not alike. I don't care about Milan or Juve. No, of course it doesn't matter at all. Look at this shiny object over here. What would you forget about it? What would you forget about it? Nima, Nima, Nima, Nima, Nima, Nima, Nima, Nima, Nima, Nima, Nima, Nima, Nima, Nima, Nima, Nima, Nima, Nima, Nima, Nima, Nima, Nima, Nima, Nima, Nima, Nima, Nima, Nima, Nima, Nima, Nima, Nima, Nima, Nima, Nima, Nima, Nima, Nima, Nima, Nima, Nima, Nima, Nima, Nima, Nima, Nima
Goalkeeper Actions: Penalty or Not?
00:02:55
Speaker
Literally. Literally. Didn't Mike Manion get sent off this season when he got the ball and then needs someone in the head after? Knee is different. Knee is different. Knee is different. It is exactly different. The foot is different. The foot is different. If you punch someone in the head, the goalkeeper punches someone in the head, even if they got the ball. It's a penalty. It's not a penalty. Only when it's inter it is. Okay, let me just read out. I'll read out what Luca Manelli said. It's himself two years ago. I've got the quote right here. This is never a penalty for me. That's a direct quote for him.
00:03:25
Speaker
Okay, well, Luca Morelli said yesterday, so maybe Morelli's part of the rat-fucking. Morelli said yesterday. Obviously, though. Morelli said, in the VAR room, they assess Sommer's intervention as very dangerous. I agree with the final decision. A goalkeeper has every right to go for the ball, but he must be careful. This is a punch in the face. You can't punch players in the face in the moment. It's simple as that. This is Luca Morelli. I mean, Luca Morelli could be wrong.
00:03:46
Speaker
He's not right all the time. He's not got, like you said in the past. But this is Luca Morelli interpreting the rules. The rules are if you endanger an opponent with force, regardless of whether you've got the ball, that's in the rules. It's a penalty. That is exactly what he did. No, it is not. Punch the ball and he punches the player in the head. No, it's not a penalty. Doesn't matter if he got the ball. He punches the player in the head. If you get the ball with your foot and then you take the player out after. Foot is different. Foot is different. And that's what you don't understand. And I'm gasping.
00:04:16
Speaker
Who's wrong then? And Mook and Morelli is just lying to one. Yeah, he's wrong here. He is wrong here. Mook and Morelli is against the downtrodden inside. No, I forgot. Poor little Juva, who have the world against him. Calchopoli was an inside job by Morati and everyone else to screw. And no difference to Uwe or Milan. They're not downtrodden. And this rap fucking thing needs to stop. This is exactly what I was talking about two weeks ago and it got proven beyond all doubt for the world to see yesterday.
Allegations of Systematic Bias
00:04:42
Speaker
Everybody saw it. So it's a rap fucking joke.
00:04:44
Speaker
Of course they did, because Michael Gonzalez can't take a penalty. If he knew how to take a penalty, they would have completely rat-fucked him to yesterday. This is exactly what I was talking about, and he got proven yesterday for the world to see. Same situation with a Milan goalkeeper, nothing. Everyone is... It's unfortunate. So, Manion getting the ball, but then... With his knee. Do you not understand the difference between a foot and a knee?
00:05:08
Speaker
Yes, if it's endangering the opponent with force, punching, or he's a penalty. That's the rule. No, it's not. It's all according to you. It's according to you. Luca Morelli's wrong there. Luca Morelli knows you know the rules better than Luca Morelli. You know the rules better than Luca Morelli.
00:05:23
Speaker
Well, same situation with Luca Marelli, when it came to Manion, then all of a sudden it's not a penalty. I'm not a question on him. I regard it for me. This is never a penalty for me. Less than two years ago. Two years ago. Luca Marelli is against the downtrodden Inse. That's right. No, I forgot. It's only Juventus who are the poor, poor. Oh, it's the downtrodden. It's the whole system against Inse. It is obvious. Yeah, the whole system's against Inse.
Bias and Inconsistency in Rule Enforcement
00:05:45
Speaker
is clear. Let me say something very clear, like I said two weeks ago. It is obvious for everyone to see. Into what part are the 14 teams of Europe, the superpowers of Europe, along with Juventus, Milan, Bayern Munich, Real Madrid. They're just in there just for fun. Yeah, right. They're not part of the European establishment, sorry. Bayern Munich, Real Madrid. Listen.
00:06:07
Speaker
What are you talking about? What are you talking about? What are you talking about? That's complete bollocks. You're telling shit. You're completely making ridiculous false straw man arguments. No, insa are not the downtrodden, okay. You are getting systematically rat-fucked in this league and it's obvious for everyone to see. It's obvious for everyone to see because the false equivalency is continuous.
00:06:31
Speaker
to have the most penalties, the least yellow card, because they deserve them, because they deserve them, because they deserve them, because they deserve them, because they deserve them, because they deserve them, because they deserve them, because they deserve them, because they deserve them, because they deserve them, because they deserve them, because they deserve them, because they deserve them, because they deserve them, because they deserve them, because they deserve them, because they deserve them, because they deserve them, because they deserve them, because they deserve them, because they deserve them, because they deserve them, because they deserve them, because they deserve them,
00:06:53
Speaker
Why is it not? So now the goalkeepers do what it's not, but wanting to do it all of a sudden, everybody remembers this rule, but it doesn't apply less than two years ago. Stop the bullshit. Stop the bullshit. Stop the bullshit.
00:07:12
Speaker
Right? And then they can talk about what about variety? This is exactly the bullshit gaslighting and false equivalency that you got be nonstop.
00:07:29
Speaker
for 100 years. This is exactly what I'm talking about. Because Milli cut a red card, so naturally by Gobi logic in Italy, the internet has to get a red
Call for Consistent Rule Application
00:07:38
Speaker
card. Doesn't matter if it doesn't get a red card or not.
00:07:45
Speaker
My logic is exactly what I'm saying. My logic is exactly this. I want the same things to apply to everything, but you don't want that. That's fine. If we want the same logic to apply to everyone, then stupid Juventus fans that say Berardi should have been sent off and Juventus wouldn't have lost that game 4-1.
00:08:04
Speaker
That's exactly the same. That's exactly the same argument you're using with Manon. You're saying Manon got sent. I haven't seen this in there. I need to see it two years ago. I can't remember it. You're saying that if Manon should have been sent off if we were using the same logic that we used for Sommer,
00:08:20
Speaker
Well, then Juventus fans can say the same thing about Milik, who deservedly got sent off by the way, because they should have got sent off when the score was level during the Sasual again, Juventus would have got would have probably gone on to win that game instead, they lose for one. Well, then Juventus fans are going to say, well, Juventus are getting wrapped up because the same logic wasn't used for the products. This is what I'm talking about. It's not it's not.
00:08:42
Speaker
That's exactly the same. No, no, no. It's not because you're equating different situations that have nothing to do with one another. It's the same. No, you know it's not the same. It's always the same. It's always the same. Was Baradea a red card against Saswalla? You mean the same logic as Milik? Yes, it was. If you're using the same logic as Milik's red card on Saturday, then so was Baradea's.
00:09:02
Speaker
That's fine, whatever. I don't remember that situation exactly, just like you don't remember the manual situation. You don't have to look at it. No, I don't remember it. I don't remember it. I can say the same thing about you and Manuel Lovato, because everybody was talking about it at the time. I'm saying, my exact argument is we shouldn't be looking back at these ridiculous incidents from three years ago. No, I think we should. I think we should. I think we should demand the same standard. I want the same standard applied across the whole. You can never lie on each incident. You always have to go back instead of saying, was this or not?
00:09:28
Speaker
Because I'm looking for consistency and I want clarity consistency applied across the location. That's not an outrage. That is how things should work. But you don't look for that. You say, well, they've got a penalty, so you should have a penalty. No, just own each incident. I'm saying... There is nothing to own here. There is nothing to own here. No, what's ridiculous? What's ridiculous?
00:09:54
Speaker
What's ridiculous is that Freddy cat, cat, cat, cat, pussy cat gets to punch people in the face without any... Yeah, I mean, that was somber. You would say that was not... that you were allowed to do it. The ball wasn't even a goalkeeper. The ball wasn't even there. He literally punched Karat-Kheri and Jorich in the face for no fucking reason. What are you talking about? This is a ridiculous, gaslighting, straw manning, and equating a ridiculous situation that I'm talking about. Okay, okay, okay, all right.