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Episode 64 - ANALYSIS: Brighton fail to beat yet another promoted side! What went wrong?
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Daily Brighton - Bless and Jamie discuss why Brighton struggled to score more than one against Southampton and explain how Hurtzuler adapted midgame to try and get the win.
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Opening and Initial Thoughts
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Hello and welcome to the Daily Brighton Podcast. It's your boy, TheBigJG, joined by his man, blessing Stravamba. Bless how we doing on another Sunday evening after a good weekend of football, maybe not for Brighton though.
00:00:26
blessings
Yeah, yeah, we're doing okay. I think yeah, just still accepting the point against the worst team in the Premier League. But yeah, ah the I'm so happy there's a game on Thursday. Let's just put it that way.
Tactical Analysis: Brighton vs Southampton
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Yeah they I mean it's it's a quick turnaround and we can quickly hopefully forget about the game against Southampton and we can look ahead to Fulham now and that's probably the good thing about dropping vital points at home against a really crappy team is that there's a new game coming and we can bounce back hopefully he says.
00:01:02
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but yeah this this episode we're going to be looking more in depth into that Brighton vs Southampton performance and see where it all kind of went wrong for us in that game um and see what kind of tactical things we did and what Herzler did to try and get that win, that much desired win, and of speak on a few comments that he made. ah We're going to start off by talking about him changing formation after the disallowed goal that we spoke about at length yesterday and the very controversial one that's been circulating online went in. ah
00:01:39
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in those like three five or five minutes however long it took to decide that it was offside in the end. ah Herzler clearly was looking with his coaching staff at ways he could change the game because before the ball was then played for the Brighton offside free kick, ah Herzler made three changes and then he also in in doing so he brought on Lewis Dunk and it was went to a 3-4-3 bless. I know you are
Midfield Dynamics and Tactical Timing
00:02:11
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the tactical of this podcast so explain to me a bit about what he did and how that was able to change the game.
00:02:18
blessings
Well, another nickname for me under the belt then. So I'm the Danny Wuerbeck in Joy and now I'm the Tatico. yeah
00:02:24
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ah okay he
00:02:25
blessings
um Yeah, I think, so I haven't been playing quite interesting. ah like an interesting sort of system at the moment um because they sort of line up in the back in the back three or back five um but Flynn Downs actually steps forward in midfield and I think in our last sort of discussions we were talking about the rhythm and just that lack of intensity, um lack of energy um we saw from Brighton I think it's also
00:02:57
blessings
um Southampton system sort of played a part and we struggled to sort of get a grasp grasp of what they were doing in in midfield because fling downs would yeah sometimes sit in as a centre back but then sometimes you'll be you know playing as um a defensive midfielder so it's quite tricky to adjust to that. um Again when you're playing against a back five or a back three it's much easier to sort of match it um and then you sort of have play like matt one beyond match ups all over the the pitch and it makes it easier to do your job. but um I'm surprised you did it then. I felt like it might have been a bit too late. I thought i felt like maybe at half time maybe we could have seen that happen and then that could have sort of injected
00:03:46
blessings
a little bit more energy or a different sort of outlook on the game. um But yeah, no that's fair play to Southampton, it was a little tactic.
00:03:58
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Yeah, I think so Hertzler said after the game that... I mean, he's he said after the game initially that they played quite well. He was quite happy with how they were playing in the first half. And then it was in the second half that he realized there was a drop in and ah drop in intensity and that's where they started unraveling some problems Southampton. So that's where, I guess, credit goes to Russell Martin for being able to, he guesses, that adapts and puts Flynn down, which was,
00:04:27
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ah I feel like in the second half especially he had more license to step into midfield and definitely roamed out the pitch and that's how I guess the centre back ended up on the edge of our box and that's how he scored. So I reckon that was a tactical change that Russell Martin did make in terms of giving Flynn Downs that license to step into midfield. ah The other thing that Fabian Hertzler said is he found it really difficult to or the team found it really difficult to play against a team that presses man for man and I guess that's why we went to the three at the back is like you were mentioning the play we obviously where we were playing against a three at the back of three five two is what they were playing
00:05:10
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I think we went to a 3-4-3 when Minter and, no, when a Dingra, Dunk and Whiffer came on. And I think that's where, I guess, then you can basically match the man for man. Like, that was one thing I will give Hertz the credit for, although he might have done it too late, you feel, ah is he at least adapted to what the other team was doing. He
Formation Challenges: 3-4-3 and Fullbacks
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spotted problems and on the fly, he reverted reverted to that formation that he played so often at St. Paul. That was the first time we kind of got to see it this season.
00:05:43
blessings
yeah Yeah, I agree with you. I think it's ah it's a good thing that he has so identified an issue and you know tried to correct it by changing the shape. um And I think it's a shame within we didn't get much joy.
00:05:57
blessings
um from the change, because I do think that when and a team is pressing man for man, if you have players that can beat their man, that's going to you know open up the pitch, that's going to you know create a lot of space.
00:06:07
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Yeah.
00:06:10
blessings
And we've got those types of players, we've got obviously Mattome, I can do that. um But what I think we really lacked, again I said it um in the last time we spoke, I think we really lacked Belieber because he's so powerful and he can definitely, um you know, use his strength, use his ball control and just shift the man and and beat them and then find the boss. I think if we had him, well they'd definitely cause them much more issues but again yeah it's it's tricky it's tricky to it's a it's a difficult game to analyze because it was such a weird game i think
00:06:45
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Yeah, it was so different to kind of I guess what we were expecting as well. ah
Performance Against Different Team Levels
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One thing I would say as well, when he changed the formation to the to the three at the back after that goal went in, I think In that passage of play, i've I wrote it down as I was watching the game. I think four minutes earlier they got done, Brighton conceded ah quite a dangerous counter-attack where the ball was kind of played out wide and then it was just a bad ball from I think it was either Sugawara or Manning at the time.
00:07:18
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ah to Cameron Archer and then obviously sit four minutes later the goal went in where they played it so far out wide and then Manning, did ah no Ryan Fraser got the cross in to Archer and that's how it got in.
00:07:31
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I think with the way that they were playing, the 3-5-2 that they were playing, it I did notice that they had a lot of space and width out wide. Obviously because their wing backs are like wing backs, like they hog the touch line and they are known for their crossing ability. Seguar I think in the Eurodiversity had like multiple 10 assist seasons and then Manning last season in the championship was class whipping the ball in.
00:08:01
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So I think... That's where he identified, oh, this is where we now they're getting a lot of joy down the the left and right hand side, getting these crosses in, that the adjustments need to be made and we need to man mark the wing backs more tightly. And I think that did work to an extent because after that happened, I don't know whether it was Southampton then deciding, we'll try and sit in and see out for a draw because a draw is a decent result against Brighton who are on form.
00:08:31
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ah or whether that system actually helped us in trying to get that win. But I thought we looked much more comfortable in the last 20 minutes especially.
00:08:43
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Yeah, and so that's kind of where I was thinking with it. And I guess we were mentioning yesterday, that's what I wanted to mention. We were mentioning yesterday with Estepinian having like a difficult game, not knowing whether to go or what to do with dibbling, where he was drifting in because that was his man. And that's also what left an overload a couple of times on that right hand side or where Estepinian was often out of position and also Lamptey was out of position a fair few times.
00:09:09
blessings
Yeah, as a fullback, it is difficult when you're having to pick up like an inside forward and not also ah like the wing backs just bombing past you.
00:09:18
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yeah
00:09:19
blessings
um So it does make it difficult. I do think they like um with the change, I think we've gone, so we've gone with a three, ah like a three up front and wing striker, left wing, et cetera.
00:09:33
blessings
I think the idea is perhaps to call cause them troubles out wide and sort of push the full the wing backs back.
00:09:41
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Yeah. Yeah.
00:09:41
blessings
um Which, yeah, and in a way, I think it works. ah That's a good thing. But again, again, like you were saying, it could be just like saints were happy with a point and they dropped off.
00:09:53
blessings
um So I think, yeah, it it did work in terms of dealing with the their wing backs.
00:09:54
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Yeah. The threat.
00:10:00
blessings
But, yeah.
00:10:02
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Yeah. oh And yeah, I guess that, like luck we were saying, I think it's very good to see Hertzler make those changes. Like the way he he has, and I think that's just a ah perfect sign of how mature he is as a manager, despite being 31.
00:10:19
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like his age, his experience doesn't match his age and like his nuance for the game and like what he sees there and then is is good to see and especially going forward so that's that beauty of it. ah We are going to be speaking after this after this break about the small teams and why why we do struggle against them because that's a draw against Ipswich now and that's a draw against Southampton. The promoted sides are giving us some trouble so stick around to hear about that.
00:11:14
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And we are back with a Daily Brighton podcast. So yeah, I mentioned it before the the the ad break and it is these little games that are against like the struggling teams, as it were, that are giving us some hard luck. So it's a draw to Ipswich. It's a draw to Southampton. It's a draw to Wolves. And I know they're not doing too bad this season. They're doing very well. But when it first happened, it's a draw to Nottingham Forest.
00:11:44
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why
Player Roles and New Additions
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can't we seem to beat these smaller teams, whereas against the big teams like Tottenham and Man City, we've managed to get a result against them?
00:11:54
blessings
Yeah, that's weird, I can't put my finger on it, ah but I do get these feelings. Every time we play one of these teams, I do get that feeling that we could be dropping points. Like, born with a way, I was quite confident, I was like, I think we'll beat them.
00:12:08
blessings
And in this one, for some reason, I'm like, I just, yeah, I don't know. of what What I have noticed, I think it just does suit us being, it suits us more being the underdog, um because we we have got a few surprises up us these,
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Mm.
00:12:23
blessings
I think when we have to take the owners of the game and actually you know control the game and take the game to the opponent and break down the low block, um I don't know, it seems like we just can't can't really do that.
00:12:38
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Yeah, ah I completely echo what you're saying. like We had 22 shots yesterday, and I think we said on yesterday's podcast that I only ever felt like we were going to score like maybe four times. I actually got out of my seat and was like, oh, when we missed or whatever the noises I make during a football game. But yeah, it just It doesn't really inspire me, I'm not lying. It's like, I don't ever get like, oh yeah, we're gonna we've we've smashed them here, or we're gonna get loads of chances. i just we don't ahsh Our chances are half ah like half chances, especially against these smaller teams. I remember when we did the Ipswich game, which was very
00:13:23
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excruciating game to cover and do two podcasts on. I remember the time we were talking about how few chances we created.
00:13:28
blessings
um
00:13:31
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And it's kind of the same again. We we do struggle against these teams where, I don't know, Southampton didn't really sit back that much. Maybe the last 20 minutes they did. And then the first half, they were very much happy to give us the ball.
00:13:45
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But yeah, i just things don't really go our way. i don't really I'm the same as you. I don't really know what's happening.
00:13:50
blessings
Yeah. Yeah, I think, again, I think it's the case of We cannot um like maintain our attacks for long enough. I think yeah against those teams, for some reason, they can always pay us back.
00:14:04
blessings
um And when we do play sort of like the Man City, the Liverpool, it's like a proper game of football. like No one's going to sit back.
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Mmhmm.
00:14:15
blessings
it like we We are going for it. It's a free-flowing game. But whenever I feel like a team gives us a little bit of respect,
00:14:23
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yeah
00:14:23
blessings
we we We struggle to deal with that for one reason or another. um And yeah I'll go back to your point about the chances we created. like that Matoma chance early on, again, it has to just go in.
00:14:37
blessings
For me, that's a big chance.
00:14:37
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Yeah.
00:14:39
blessings
Obviously, Ruto is unlucky to hit the post, but there are a couple of moments where you're like, that you know that's ah that's a decent chance. I think you're not going to get five, six, seven big chances in a game.
00:14:47
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Yeah.
00:14:52
blessings
You're going to get two or three, and we if we have four, three maybe should be in, I think.
00:14:58
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who Yeah, I mean, Ruta had, I think, three chances himself and the one that he hits the post inches inches and that's going in and then there was one where he had shots and the other this is where i kind of thought against these teams i do sit back let's say and they do are happy for us to have the ball and to keep it that's where i really thought the router and i still do think and i still have faith the router pedra and wellbeck partnership of where they can have the ball in those tight spaces and lay each other off
00:15:33
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and We didn't really see that yesterday to the extent we did last week against Bournemouth. I thought we saw that in flashes, wayne like in better flashes against Bournemouth more than we did yesterday against Southampton, or not yesterday, Friday against Southampton. um And that's what was disappointing me. like I thought Pedro didn't really do much. I thought he was kind of, by his lofty standards, I thought he he didn't have his best game, or like was hard to get into the game for him, potentially.
00:16:03
blessings
Yeah I would say the same as well. I think we need to um be less reliant on his goals. um I think yeah some some of the other boys need to step up as well.
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Yeah.
00:16:14
blessings
ah But we with Pedro I think with the injury we've got to be careful with him. I feel like it will be a lot to ask if we you know were expecting him to be kicking on. He's still he did he started really well coming back from injury but he's still sort of catching his i'm getting fitter as the games go as well. It's one of them I think we need need someone else to just pick up a bit of form and I thought that could be Metoma to be honest and and I think it still can be but we need someone to yeah just to be red hot and share out these goals a little bit
00:16:51
blessings
be a little bit more clinical and decisive when we are playing against you know these um so-called smaller teams.
00:16:59
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Yeah.
00:17:00
blessings
Be decisive in front of goal because you're not going to get that many chances, if not.
00:17:04
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Yeah. And that actually brings me to the point that we brought up yesterday on yesterday's podcast about them being hesitant around the box as well. They look like they didn't want to shoot from outside the box, although they were always worried about it being blocked and something. But even if you just shots at goal, if they are blocked or deflected, they can go in.
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ah the other one The other player I actually did have a good chance right towards the end of the game was a Dhingra and it came from Metoma, a great touch like ah Lewis Dunk, classic, typical long ball, Metoma outside the foot, brings it down and then just whips a ball into a Dhingra and that just creeps wide. But yeah, that's who I think need to step up, it's these wingers that come on.
00:17:47
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If they come on, they need to inject pace and have that burst, have that quality against the the cliche of the tired legs. They need to be able to do that against the tired legs with their pace and then punish them rather than be a bit nothing in the game.
00:18:07
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like Because Minter, when he came on, didn't really do anything.
00:18:10
blessings
Yeah, I'll, take the notes.
00:18:11
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Dinger had that chance.
00:18:13
blessings
I'm meant to, I was on for a second, but I was, Yeah, it's it's one of them things as well. And ah just one one thing on players coming on, Matt Swiffer, we have to talk about it.
00:18:27
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Not happy again.
00:18:28
blessings
Not happy again. That's that that that stank. that Like, you you're bringing on a player who we thought has a good range of passing, can control a game, can control a temple. We're bringing him on.
00:18:46
blessings
He's just causing chaos himself. sharp me and i thought ah thought he added you know he When we first got him, I thought he would be the type of player who would add a bit of order and organisation in the team.
00:18:48
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yeah.
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yeah
00:18:58
blessings
He's played, what, 20, 25 minutes. He's got booked. It's just chaos. like What's going on with Matt Swiffer?
00:19:03
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his first action he passed the ball directly to them like he had the ball had space had time straight to them like oh yeah decent great start great start and then i think he actually shouted at someone else for not doing something i was like like just focus on your own game you've got literally no leg to stand on buddy because you have stunk up the gap for a couple of times now that might actually well um it's early doors it might be one that brighten have missed out on like missed like transfer wise i'm still holding out hope
00:19:36
blessings
I'm yeah I'm gonna hold out hope I think I think he will come good but at the moment it's just not looking good it's like yeah it's scary because ah like I said in my prediction I thought he would be the one starting um yeah to replace believers suspended but boy I can see why he's not starting
00:19:54
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Yeah. yeah
Future Prospects and Lineup Speculation
00:19:57
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We are actually going to talk about the, in the next segment, we're going to be talking about our other expensive signing of the summer and the player that did start instead and actually earned his first Premier League start, I believe.
00:20:46
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And we are back with the Daily Brighton podcast. We're here to talk about Matt O'Reilly and his first Premier League start. Bless, how do you think he did?
00:20:58
blessings
Yeah, I think he, um as an individual, I thought he played quite well. He did all right. um In terms of the game, I think him and Ayari, I don't know if that's a ah partnership that complements you ah each other's skill set as well.
00:21:11
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Each other.
00:21:14
blessings
um I think him and Belieber could do well, and obviously Ayari, Belieber, does do well as well. um Yeah, it's good to see him get a run out, obviously after that Man City performance, that madness. It's good to see him in the side. I'm still trying to figure out were what role in midfield did he'll be better at. I thought he's more of like an attacking eight, but obviously he was sitting with Iari a bit.
00:21:43
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Yeah, I thought that, I thought his positioning, like obviously because where he he played in those two six positions, didn't he, alongside Iaru. I thought that was interesting because yeah, at Celtic he was the bagsman, like he was the advanced ah the ah the more advanced midfielder where he would create chances but also score. I think last season he had I'm gonna find it.
00:22:08
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He had 18 goals, 13 assists, and he played that more advanced role for Celtic.
00:22:12
blessings
That's unreal.
00:22:14
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And yeah, like you say, I thought you'd be he'd be playing as like more of a can, but I think Hursos does see him in this role, potentially alongside a more defensive midfielder, or even alongside Belieber would be, I think that would be a good pair.
00:22:30
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I think him alongside Belieber is a good match. And one thing I would say, is we've talked about in the last segment about when you or you talked about someone stepping up to score those goals this guy has proven in the past although it might not be the the best league he can score he can create you and i think we have seen flashes of that obviously with the man city goal where he does make those late runs into the into the box he has good timing of his runs and he is always there as an option too
00:23:02
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be the layoff or be a threat inside the box. I think he can be the person where if things aren't right, if teams are sitting deep, he can make that advanced run past the the for the forward of Wellbeck, let's say, and we get on to the end of chances and end end of passes.
00:23:21
blessings
Yeah I totally they agree and I think we all love a goalscore image fielder so like it's quality.
00:23:28
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Frank Lampard.
00:23:29
blessings
Frank Lampard, SKL, let's not get ahead of ourselves but um yeah and so in terms of O'Reilly I think like everyone else in this squad everyone We all know what they're capable of.
00:23:44
blessings
like you know We all know what they bring to the table and what they can do is bringing that on a consistent basis. pieces And the the first player who does that, or continues to do that, is going to change the dynamic of this team.
00:23:58
blessings
like We've had it for a bit at the start with Wellbeck. We've had Jarpedro as well, just you know showing that, showing what he can do on a consistent basis, because they're all really talented players with high, high potential.
00:24:02
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Yeah.
00:24:10
blessings
like We just need to see it happening and obviously O'Reilly is setting in so we'll we'll have to see and give him some time.
00:24:19
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yeah i think Yeah, I think we're only going to see better performances as the season goes on from O'Reilly. I think ah the his rating in the game was 6.4, which I think was a very harsh rating, because I'm along with your lines. I think he had an actually a very solid game. And I thought there was one moment in the game as well where He, ah, yeah, that was it. I think it was in the second half, he almost set up Metoma for a goal. He did like one of these like late runs into the box and got laid off by a Welbeck. And then he played, Matt O'Reilly played the square ball and Metoma just kind of on his heels, not anticipating that it's going to be alongside him. I think if that goes in or if Metoma is anticipating and or if they're on the same page,
00:25:04
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Then that's a goal, and we're looking at a completely different game in terms of how O'Reilly's done. and ah But that's the threat he offers as well, is that those late runs where he can either assist and get ah and also score. But I thought he was a solid and definitely not 6.4 worthy. I thought he was at least a 7, considering Iari got a 7.
00:25:27
blessings
Yeah, I don't think he's harmed this um sort of chance for net afford for Thursday either so But u yeah, I'd be interested to see what her does with that again because ah believe what is back Jack and she was back as well only Nothing to be back
00:25:33
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Yeah.
00:25:39
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Go on then, give me your prediction. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Give me your prediction. Who do you reckon is starting in those two, in that two?
00:25:50
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I think, yeah, he was doubtful for today, Friday's game, but he should probably be back.
00:25:57
blessings
I'm not gonna lie, I think he could go, I think he might go believe or hint you would.
00:26:03
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Mmm, so complete.
00:26:03
blessings
Yeah.
00:26:04
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Yeah, Tufir. Based on his comments of what he said after Friday's game, he said that we weren't able to control we weren't able to control the game and the intensity wasn't there.
00:26:16
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That I actually, I'm backing you, Tufir. I think that if they are both fully fit and healthy to go, I think that could actually be the lineup.
00:26:18
blessings
Yeah.
00:26:24
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Back to how it all started like five or six games ago.
00:26:26
blessings
how it all started yeah although I do there's so many so many I do like the Iari and Hinshelwood together because it just doesn't look convincing but it and it looks okay yeah they
00:26:29
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We've had so many centimetre partnerships, it's actually mad.
00:26:37
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Yeah.
00:26:41
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It doesn't look convincing on the team sheet, but then on performance-wise, they're actually decent and they're full of energy.
00:26:48
blessings
are actually right
00:26:51
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Yeah, 100%. Well, I think we'll wrap it up there and we will look forward to that Fulham game. We'll see if Bless's prediction is right of Hincherwood and Belieber and we'll see.
00:27:03
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Hopefully we can Finish this slump of dropping points to lower league teams and actually beat Fulham. Fingers crossed. I know every listener is also having their fingers crossed. But yeah, thanks guys for listening and speak soon.