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We’re repeating a conversation from our first season so you can get to know Bobby Knepper, our sound designer. Bobby was a listener whom we invited to chat with Rafael and Robert, and he then volunteered to make us sound better than we do in real life. In this conversation, we talk about knowing that you’re different and not knowing why, emotional labor, growing up without peers, the power of hyperfocus, melting down, and a couple of life hacks.
To listen to Bobby's songs, go to https://open.spotify.com/playlist/59VlLUag1hbDtkQLf3oNCg?si=12744afd1f714c7b
5:00 the wonders of the internet
6:38 Bobby’s diagnosis disclosure
8:50 seeing ASD as normal, just a difference
9:50 stimming jokes
9:55 what makes disclosing difficult: emotional labor
12:14 free diagnosis with Vanderbilt University, particularly interested in self-diagnosed adults.
Vanderbilt Autism Resource Line - TRIAD Autism Services in Tennessee
12:55 nuanced difference between self-diagnosis and official diagnosis
13:38 WebMD
13:47 General Anxiety Disorder
Generalized anxiety disorder - Symptoms and causes - Mayo Clinic
14:31 Autistic Overload
Sensory Overload: Symptoms, Causes, Related Conditions, and More
15:30 Introductions
16:40 Self-diagnosis & the difficulties of finding someone to do the diagnosis
19:28 Autistic experience
21:48 what led to Bobby’s self-diagnosis at 16
27:00 Bobby’s system of tracking NT behaviors
29:00 Being different and not knowing why
29:26 autistic children grow up without peers
30:45 When did autism speak its name to you?
31:35 The room one kids/RainMan
35:45: Bobby “I’m just young for my brain.”
36:00 Jimmi comes into the scene/healthy Jimmi break
37:25 Pandemic effects on us/love of being alone
39:32 hit a wall/meltdown
42:42 Big Warm Hug
43:02 clip/quote Bobby
43:20 journaling and songwriting about the pain of autism
44:05 the pain of not liking who you are is awful
47:30 hyperfocus is a powerful tool
49:00 what’s beautiful about autism
49:33 life hack: reading lips
52:23 life hack: make music & harmonize with vocal melodies of others; jazz conversation
53:22 synesthesia
Synesthesia: Definition, Examples, Causes, Symptoms, and Treatment
55:50 metaphors
57:55 thinking in systems
1:01:32 what was it like to let go of resistance to identifying as autistic
1:05:05 autism and OCD behaviors
Is There a Link Between OCD and Autism?
1:08:03 Robert: It’s painful to be working in a bad system.
1:10:40 The Green Knight
The Green Knight (2021) - IMDb
1:12:50 autistics love to think and learn
1:13:55 Documentary about intuition: InnSaei - The power of intuition
Watch InnSaei: The Power in Intuition | Prime Video
1:21:32 Curiosity
1:24:14 intuition and problem-solving skills
1:25:04 having to explain how&</
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We’re repeating a conversation from our first season so you can get to know Bobby Knepper, our sound designer. Bobby was a listener whom we invited to chat with Rafael and Robert, and he then volunteered to make us sound better than we do in real life. In this conversation, we talk about knowing that you’re different and not knowing why, emotional labor, growing up without peers, the power of hyperfocus, melting down, and a couple of life hacks.
To listen to Bobby's songs, go to https://open.spotify.com/playlist/59VlLUag1hbDtkQLf3oNCg?si=12744afd1f714c7b
5:00 the wonders of the internet
6:38 Bobby’s diagnosis disclosure
8:50 seeing ASD as normal, just a difference
9:50 stimming jokes
9:55 what makes disclosing difficult: emotional labor
12:14 free diagnosis with Vanderbilt University, particularly interested in self-diagnosed adults.
Vanderbilt Autism Resource Line - TRIAD Autism Services in Tennessee
12:55 nuanced difference between self-diagnosis and official diagnosis
13:38 WebMD
13:47 General Anxiety Disorder
Generalized anxiety disorder - Symptoms and causes - Mayo Clinic
14:31 Autistic Overload
Sensory Overload: Symptoms, Causes, Related Conditions, and More
15:30 Introductions
16:40 Self-diagnosis & the difficulties of finding someone to do the diagnosis
19:28 Autistic experience
21:48 what led to Bobby’s self-diagnosis at 16
27:00 Bobby’s system of tracking NT behaviors
29:00 Being different and not knowing why
29:26 autistic children grow up without peers
30:45 When did autism speak its name to you?
31:35 The room one kids/RainMan
35:45: Bobby “I’m just young for my brain.”
36:00 Jimmi comes into the scene/healthy Jimmi break
37:25 Pandemic effects on us/love of being alone
39:32 hit a wall/meltdown
42:42 Big Warm Hug
43:02 clip/quote Bobby
43:20 journaling and songwriting about the pain of autism
44:05 the pain of not liking who you are is awful
47:30 hyperfocus is a powerful tool
49:00 what’s beautiful about autism
49:33 life hack: reading lips
52:23 life hack: make music & harmonize with vocal melodies of others; jazz conversation
53:22 synesthesia
Synesthesia: Definition, Examples, Causes, Symptoms, and Treatment
55:50 metaphors
57:55 thinking in systems
1:01:32 what was it like to let go of resistance to identifying as autistic
1:05:05 autism and OCD behaviors
Is There a Link Between OCD and Autism?
1:08:03 Robert: It’s painful to be working in a bad system.
1:10:40 The Green Knight
The Green Knight (2021) - IMDb
1:12:50 autistics love to think and learn
1:13:55 Documentary about intuition: InnSaei - The power of intuition
Watch InnSaei: The Power in Intuition | Prime Video
1:21:32 Curiosity
1:24:14 intuition and problem-solving skills
1:25:04 having to explain how&</