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Legacy Drum Corps launch, Cadets heritage preserved, and Chuck Mangione tribute - Water Break Weekly

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** Legacy Drum Corps launch, Cadets heritage preserved, and Chuck Mangione tribute.**

On this week’s episode of On A Water Break, the summer season ramps up! Host Trish O’Shea is joined by Sadie Wallace, Justin Siegmund, Tommy Maiello, and Eric Sabach for five packed segments filled with marching arts history, breaking news, and tech tips.

🎺 32 Count Life Stories & Interviews:

  • Sadie Wallace traces her journey from Baton Twirling Champion to legendary instructor across East Coast corps.
  • Eric Sabach recounts marching from Lenape Valley to directing Phantom Regiment and co-founding the 1934 Foundation.
  • Justin Siegmund shares his rise from Illinois high school guard to Phantom Regiment performer and recent Gold Medal with WGI 2025 Champion Pride of Cincinnati.
  • Tommy Maiello reflects on decades leading and teaching corps, now launching LEGACY DRUM AND BUGLE CORPS, Dream’s newest SoundSport venture.

📰 In the News:

  • Chuck Mangione’s passing at age 84: honoring the smooth jazz flügelhorn icon who bridged DCI and the broader music world.
  • LEGACY Drum & Bugle Corps Launch: Dream’s new DCI Soundsport corps for 2026 → Press Release
  • Cadets heritage secured: the 1934 Foundation acquires The Cadets’ name, logo & IP and unveils a scholarship program.
  • 🏅 Gabby, a Norwin High School color guard standout and two-time WGI world medalist, is a finalist for Sports Illustrated Youth Athlete of the Year—vote daily through August 7 → SI Youth Athlete Voting

🛠 60-Second Tech Block:
Justin delivers nonstop tips on mastering the three-turn under a five in cramped spaces. 

💧 Water We Doing?!
Panelists rant about over-the-top face makeup trends in guard and debate when innovation crosses the line with tradition.

🌟 Gush & Go:

  • Justin is thrilled to move into his new apartment with college guard friends.
  • Sadie celebrates her debut in the Spectacular Follies at age 71.
  • Tommy & Eric gush over Dream Performing Arts Academy’s programs and the promise of Legacy Corps.

🎥 Watch this week’s full episode & bonus clips → YouTube
🔗 Apply for Legacy auditions → dreamtoperform.org
🔗 Vote daily for Gabby as SI Youth Athlete of the Year → SI Youth Athlete Voting

🌍 Sponsored by: Peak Group Travel | IG: @peak.group.travel
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Transcript

Introduction and Call to Action

00:00:00
Speaker
Hey everyone, and welcome back to On a Water Break, the podcast where we talk about everything you and your friends are talking about at a rehearsal on a water break. This week, we're all about preserving and creating legacies.
00:00:12
Speaker
We'll also find out what made Justice say, Did you hit the ceiling again? and why Sadie said, Okay, so George wanted the drumline to move faster.
00:00:25
Speaker
All this and more on this week's episode of On a Water Break.
00:00:32
Speaker
Adolph The Met and go. Welcome to On A Water Bridge. The podcast where talk everything marching arts.
00:00:44
Speaker
Everyone, bring it in. It's time for a water break. Hey everyone, it's Trish. We have a great episode this week and it's all about legacy. Before we see who's on the sidelines this week, go and subscribe on your favorite listening app, write us a review, share this with a friend.
00:01:02
Speaker
Got a question or a good topic to talk about? Email us at onawaterbreakpodcast at gmail.com or find us on social media and DM us if you want to be on the show.

Sadie's Marching Arts Journey

00:01:12
Speaker
We even have a form now to fill out if you want to be a guest.
00:01:16
Speaker
Check it out at our link in bio. So who's on the sidelines this week? We have Sadie. hi And so Sadie is one of our new regular hosts and we're thrilled that she could be on the episode with us tonight.
00:01:31
Speaker
But we also have some people that you don't know. Welcome Justin. Hello. Hi, Justin. And we also have Tommy and Eric.
00:01:43
Speaker
And they' you're good right now, they're going to tell you a little bit more about who they are because each and every one of them is going to do a 32-count life story. So here's how this works, everybody. We're going to give eight off the mat, and you're just going to tell us everything from day one to right till today 32 counts.
00:02:04
Speaker
um So who wants to start it off? I heard Sadie's ready to go. Sadie, we'll give you eight off the mat and
00:02:15
Speaker
Hi, I'm Sadie Wallace. I started out as a baton twirler and i marched in a baton and drum corps. Then I moved on in 1973 to the Finleyville Royal Crusaders where I met Donald Angelica.
00:02:29
Speaker
who influenced me much through my life. So in 1975, after I aged out, I moved to New Jersey and I started teaching.
00:02:40
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I taught the Bridgman in 1978 with Bobby Hoffman and Dennis DeLusha. I also taught lot of winter guards all over the East Coast.
00:02:51
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um Then I taught the cadets in 1982. I had met George and Gali in 1975 and Peggy Twiggs, by the way. So we were friends for a long time before we got to teach with each other.
00:03:03
Speaker
And so I taught from 82 to 89, except for 86 when we got fired and we had teach Star of Indiana. And during that, I taught Winter Guards, Emerald Marquis, Erte, Royal Guardsmen.
00:03:18
Speaker
Right, Trish? Yeah. And different drum corps. I taught the Ventures All-Girl Corps. I taught the Blue Knights. I collaborated with a lot of drum corps throughout the area, the United States, really, and Canada.
00:03:32
Speaker
And then I started to go back to college. um I met my husband who marched in the senior corps with my sister in Pittsburgh, Steel City Ambassadors. And then we got married in 1990. We moved to Texas immediately.
00:03:47
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i started teaching the Skywriters in 1991. And I was pregnant on tour with my first ah my first child. ah Then I kept teaching bands throughout in Texas until 1986.
00:04:03
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um And my kids, my son was in a percussion WGI. i And he also has a company you may be familiar with, Lot Riot. which is tailored to a percussionist.
00:04:15
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My daughter did not do drum corps, but she's a dancer, and she teaches at Ballet Austin. I think I probably went over my 32 counts. Yay, that was good, though.
00:04:25
Speaker
That doesn't matter. Who cares? You did a great job.

Eric's Marching Arts History

00:04:28
Speaker
Good. ah Okay. um Who's up next? Let's see. Eric? I see Eric going like this. Eric, you next?
00:04:36
Speaker
I think I'll go next, if you want me. All right. Eight off the off the mat. Let's hear I don't hear if I'm going to start anyway. So, well, I started out in the sixth grade at Lenape Valley Regional High School in St. Hope, New Jersey as a sixth grader in my marketing plan.
00:04:55
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And Mark, every year through my senior year, being the drum major for the last three years. My last couple of years of high school, I marked Royal Brigade, Drum and Bugle Corps from the Meadowlands.
00:05:06
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And then that took me to the cadets, the Garfield cadets, where I met the wonderful Miss Sadie, along with George Zendali, Mark Slavester, Peggy Quig, and everyone else who taught at that time.
00:05:18
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I aged out. Actually, i didn't age out, but I took my age out year and went and taught Star of Indiana when they started in 85 and 86. Took a year off, judged drum corps from 88 to 2003.
00:05:33
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I then went back to teach Phantom Regiment. And now I became one of the directors at Phantom Regiment. I got the Blue Stars back in the finals in 08 as their core director. Then I spent five years with Carolina Crown.
00:05:46
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I have a connection to Trish also to the New York Royal Guardsmen for a year or so when I was teaching there. And, uh, DCI, BOA, DCI, we're all having fun right now.
00:05:57
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So now I sat on the cadet, I sat on the cadet tour the last couple of years and, uh, Until the last iteration of the board before they ceased to exist, unfortunately.
00:06:08
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Then we started the 1934 foundation.

Justin's Year with Pride of Cincinnati

00:06:12
Speaker
ah Honestly, it kind of overlapped with the last year of the cadets. So that's my story. I went 64 counts. apologize. That's okay. It's all good. It's all good.
00:06:21
Speaker
all This is like... This is like the six degrees of separation podcast for me tonight because there's so many of you like ah Justin is like the only person I'm not connected to in some way. It's we'll get into all of it, but Eric, going to let Justin go next because as soon as you mentioned Phantom Regiment, Justin was all happy because Justin marched Phantom Regiment.
00:06:48
Speaker
So, of course. So Justin, we're going give you eight off the med. Here we go. Awesome. I was born and raised in Plainfield, Illinois. In 2021, I marched with the Plainfield Marching Band as a saxophone.
00:07:00
Speaker
And then in 22 and 23, I joined the Color Guard member. marched with Plainfield Winter Guard from 22 to 24. i did Bantam Regiment 23 and 24. And then this past winter season, I marched with Pride of Cincinnati for To the Fullest, which unfortunately was their last year. But I am so happy that I was able to experience the greatest love while it was still around.
00:07:22
Speaker
Yes! I don't got much more. Yes! And you know what, Justin? We have a degree of separation too, besides Phantom Regiment. Do we? Yeah. When your high school marching band would go to Illinois State University for your state championship, I probably i probably judged you a couple of times.
00:07:42
Speaker
Nice. We went in 2023, I think, was the one year I went with them. I probably judged that year. That's so awesome. Oh my God. This is like around the world here. Now, Justin.
00:07:55
Speaker
Mm-hmm. What brought you to On a Water Break? Well, I was just sort of sitting around enjoying my summer. It's been crazy not marching for the first time since my junior year of high school when I got a message from Jackie just like, hey, do you want to come join this podcast?
00:08:14
Speaker
So one day I was just relaxing around the house when I went on Instagram and saw that Jackie had messaged me. And she was like, do you want to join this podcast? And it's crazy to think about the fact that I'm not marching this summer and I've had so much free time to myself.
00:08:29
Speaker
So I'm like, what the heck? Might as well. Gives me something to do. And right now I'm actually down at my campus town because I'm teaching my high school, Champaign Central High School, during marching band camp.
00:08:41
Speaker
And I was able to make time. We got out of marching band early today at like 4.30 because we have really early rehearsals. And spent like an hour writing for the show.
00:08:52
Speaker
And then i got back and now I'm here. Yay. And we also heard that um you, we we've actually caught you doing a two-turn on TikTok in a really tiny space. Is that true? ah Yes, it is. I actually just posted a video on Instagram of me doing a three-turn inside of my house.
00:09:18
Speaker
Oh, my gosh. See that? You guys out there, you got to check that out. Must to have high ceilings. Mm-hmm. Yeah, we have a vaulted ceiling in my front room. Super, super happy that we have that. It's enough to toss a five in my house.
00:09:33
Speaker
Oh, love that. Love that. Jealous. So nice. Okay, now we're going to hear from my good friend, kind of neighbor, Tommy Maiello. Tommy, we're going to give you Adolph the Met.
00:09:47
Speaker
Well, I started in 1982 in the Bayonne Cadets. ah Matt Gurley dragged me down to a rehearsal. Then when the bridge unfolded, I went to Garfield.
00:09:58
Speaker
Then i spent 10 years teaching the Raiders, 16 years running the Raiders. Then I had the privilege to run 2-2 for a year. And then I served on the cadet board for a year and a half.
00:10:14
Speaker
And now we're off creating our own program through Dream Performing Arts with details to come soon. Yes.
00:10:25
Speaker
Details to come soon for sure. and I see some other people in the frame, Eric, that might want to give their 32-count life story there. i think i think ah Ginger is already trying to talk ahead of the count-off.
00:10:40
Speaker
Hi, sweetie. Oh my gosh, that is incredible. thanks Okay, we want to take time.
00:10:48
Speaker
we want to take this time to preview some amazing episodes of bonus content that we have going on. The DCI All-Age episode with the Bushwhackers and the Caballeros. It's been an interesting season for those two groups, so don't miss that one. Also, Ty Talks DCI on that one as well.
00:11:04
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Steven's weekly episode with Chuck Hedson and Tor Stories was a blast, so definitely check that one out. And Jackie's DCI correspondents are crushing the tour reporting. Check out our newest correspondent, Davis J. from the Blue Coats.
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00:12:52
Speaker
So now, yeah know why dont why do we see what's happening in the news this week?
00:13:11
Speaker
Sadie. Well, the music world suffered a huge loss last week with the passing of Chuck Mangione last Tuesday at the age of 84. How many of us here remember seeing him on the 1983 DCI PBS telecast?
00:13:27
Speaker
I know I definitely do. yeah definitely remember watching it and seeing him. Absolutely. And it was sad for me too, because in 1978, the Bridgman played Chuck Mangione's song. So.
00:13:40
Speaker
It always near and dear to my heart as well. And I believe Jeff Kivett, famous soprano soloist from the Machachos, actually played with him and You know, there was that other connection, the drum corps connection. And, you know, that was so sad.
00:13:58
Speaker
and Actually, the I performed in 83, so I didn't see the telecast until we got home that year. But Chuck Mangione also was a big ah donor and advocate for the food bank in Rochester.
00:14:12
Speaker
And I know they just did, I think it was the last year of DCA, so it would been two summers ago. They did a big tribute. for Chuck Mangione with a bunch of drum chorus came into town and played his music and he sat in the front row. So that was a great thing. That's amazing.
00:14:30
Speaker
Yeah, DCI and a gentleman by the name of Rich Gaven pulled that off for everyone. So Rich needs a shout out on that also. so Awesome.
00:14:44
Speaker
Yeah, huge loss for sure. I mean, I'm sure every single one of us has either performed or written a drum chorus show or marching band show to Chuck Pagione. So it's really, really a sad loss for everyone, but, you know, most, you know, here are activity.
00:15:00
Speaker
So, okay. Trish, I'm so sorry to interrupt you, but I have some time sensitive and breaking news to share. I'm here on the sideline with Gabby, who is currently in the running for the Sports Illustrated Youth Athlete of the Year. Welcome, Gabby. Hello. Hello. Hi.
00:15:16
Speaker
Hi. We are so glad to have you on. um You said and in the kind of interview for the Sports Illustrated Youth Athlete of the Year that you want to show people that guard is more than just an art, but also a sport. Can you tell me briefly about your experience with Color Guard? Yeah, well, I started off in sixth grade and I've been in for about five years.
00:15:38
Speaker
I mostly continued on with guard because I met my friend Abby and she's really helped me along the way. I've been through two, three seasons of marching band and about two years on the A-line.
00:15:50
Speaker
And I've done two years of World Guard. It's really exciting for me. It's one of the hardest things I've ever done. My favorite show that I've been in so far is I definitely love the fall season. I loved Running Rampant. It was so exciting. It was like little bit creepy, apocalyptic, progressive, and I love doing that.
00:16:04
Speaker
Yeah, and that's with Norwin High School, right? Yes, yes. So you were in that awesome Lizzie Borden show that everybody loves, weren't you?
00:16:13
Speaker
That's such a great show. I'm so glad to know that like I've got to see you perform in the past. um yeah If you win, what's what's the dream to use with that prize money? My dream? Or use that prize money for?
00:16:26
Speaker
I'm definitely going to put that towards college because that's definitely a lot more. quick push for me, but I'm also hoping that I can put some of it towards DCI. I'm really hoping that I can get into blue coats. I've watched them for a few years. I just went to their blue way clinic.
00:16:40
Speaker
I got to meet with some of them, spend a little bit. And that was really exciting. I got to know so many people and I really got to put myself out there. So there's like yeah inspiration in me to like, they might know me now and I can inspire myself to keep pushing and get better. So then I might be in that spot one day and I'm really hoping for that. So I'm probably doing college.
00:16:59
Speaker
I love that. Love to hear that. We actually have an awesome correspondent ah with Blue Coats has been doing content for us all summer to also. um So maybe we can get you guys connected and that would give you another and So you'd know someone at auditions and when that rolls around.
00:17:14
Speaker
But we all want this sport to get more recognition, just like you do. And we can help Gabby do that um and get recognition on this huge platform. If we can get on and vote for her, there's daily voting. So we're going to include a link in our description where you can go and vote every single day until August 7th, which is when they narrow it to the top 20, correct? from there, we'll keep daily voting. So we're going to share it and you can follow along so that we can keep voting and get Gabby to that number one spot.
00:17:44
Speaker
Gabby, thank you so much. I know you just got out of a rehearsal, so I'm going to let you get back to it. But thank you for taking a quick water break with me and you can get back out on the field.
00:17:54
Speaker
And Trish, we will send it back to you. Thank you. Let's reset. So also... We have one major news item that broke early

1934 Foundation's Mission

00:18:02
Speaker
last week. Eric, Tom, would you like to share your previous big news? The big news that broke last week anyway.
00:18:10
Speaker
No, we don't have anything to say. Actually, the yes yeah we've been working on this for for months and months.
00:18:21
Speaker
And since roughly about the end October, early November, with Erie Bank, and the bankruptcy trustee. And we're in the final stages.
00:18:33
Speaker
um We're waiting to get on a docket ah to finally have all of the cadets name, all their logos and all the intellectual property transferred over to the 1934 foundation and and the memorabilia to which that's incredible.
00:18:51
Speaker
that's incredible That is so incredible. So it's the 1934 foundation, 1934foundation.org.
00:19:03
Speaker
You could check us out a little bit there, but a little quick thing about our mission that's really threefold. It's one to preserve the cadet heritage in a safe place where outside entities can't do harm.
00:19:16
Speaker
The second part of our our of our three things is to give money to cadets who are still marching from the 23 show.

Legacy and Future of the Cadets

00:19:25
Speaker
And we gave out nearly $50, $200 scholarships this past month of May. So over $10,000.
00:19:36
Speaker
Our last, our last, well, we raised that money and you could, here's my shameless plug. If you go to the 1934foundation.org, if you give $250 or more, you could get a miniature of the DCI trophy with all 10. So cool.
00:19:54
Speaker
Very nice. That's really, really cool. And then our last our last of the three things is that We help establish drum pours and startup drum pours with whatever it may be, food truck, parking cars at a show, or just being able to advise people on how to get their drum pours down the road a little bit better.
00:20:16
Speaker
So we've been working hard on that. And honestly, this foundation started more than a year before, the cadets, um, uh, the cadets last year, if you will.
00:20:28
Speaker
Um, I, I think the thing to say here really on the end of this all is that we're excited with all of this. Uh, it's a sad day, uh, for, you know, 90 years of cadets.
00:20:40
Speaker
um But, you know, this information and this history and all the IP and the memorabilia is going to be in a safe place. and And who knows what happens from there? there there's There's plenty of opportunity in the future. But the cadets, as we know them, the 10-time DCI and and an American Legion champions, unfortunately, will no longer exist.
00:21:03
Speaker
Yeah. which is sad, and I'm sure it's even even more sad for you three who just have so many deep connections to the Corps. You all were either marching members or instructors or both of the Corps, and um i i can only imagine that. As much of it's a happy day, it's a sad day, too. I mean, this weekend is DCI East, and, I mean, you walk into DCI East, and DCI East is the cadets, and, you know, it's just...
00:21:32
Speaker
oh You know, we all know all this. I mean, you guys know better than I do about the Zingali stories and, the you know, and the whole world happened at DCI East, right? And all that stuff. And, um you know, so, i you know, it's coming out at you know, really, really important time, I think. And I mean, i always wanted to be a cadet. My parents were not into me going on tour.
00:21:56
Speaker
But had I marched DCI, that definitely would have been where I would have been. And, you know, It's, you know, there's there's a lot, there's a lot of connection there for all of us. There's a lot of, you know, it's really personal to all of us.
00:22:08
Speaker
It was definitely a special time, you know, from, you know, from basic, think listen, and there's 90 years of the cadets. So you just can't start when you started, you know, the cadets have been iconic for 90 years.
00:22:21
Speaker
My part of that timeline started in the fall of nineteen eighty s And yeah one year 81 and then Zingali came in 82. And, you know, ah lucky enough to be mentored by him, lucky enough to teach with him.
00:22:37
Speaker
ah Jerry Cardino, another person who would drag me to Royal Guardsmen rehearsals. That's right. And it was, I'm very blessed to have those experiences and obviously to teach a few places, which with Sadie also.
00:22:54
Speaker
Yeah. Back then when Sadie wanted to stretch out the horn line, like we were dancers, we kind of made fun of her. But hey, look, a short time later, everybody stretched out. Oh my gosh, exactly. Sadie was well ahead of her time.
00:23:09
Speaker
Oh my gosh, it's so true. They were they such trouble, those horn players. And drummers too, of course. when robs had know when we made up the crab walk. that was That was a hurdle to get past. But now, of course, everybody does it.
00:23:27
Speaker
I was going to say... I'm not even supposed to be a part of this recording. I'm not even supposed to be a part of this recording, and I have to jump in and say, what do you mean, Sadie?
00:23:38
Speaker
You just breezed by when we made up the crab walk. No, you can't just say. okay Okay, so George wanted the drumline to move faster.
00:23:51
Speaker
I, at the time, was in college, finishing my degree in physical education and dance, and I had to take all the sports there are. and i I had a lot of friends that were on the football team, and they did that.
00:24:07
Speaker
They did like a stagger grapevine type move, step behind, step in front, step behind. So I said, well, you know, we could try this, see if they can get a little bit farther. Instead of being in parallel position with your feet, you can stay in the turned out position and see if we can get.
00:24:25
Speaker
So we did it behind. We did it in the front. You know, we moved, you know, We messed around with it quite a bit. Tom Hannum didn't like it, of course. Jeremy is so shook right now.
00:24:38
Speaker
i am shook. I am shook. I am shook. Tom was very gracious in like allowing us to make the drummers do that because I know um it was harder for them to play, obviously. And, you know, we had ah we were like at 200 beats per minute. You know, it was ridiculously fast.
00:25:00
Speaker
So... Yeah, that's how it started. and let's take it Let's take it a ah step further. I want to see your brain explode right here. Oh, my God, please. Oh, my God. You ready? that's the The cadets also invented, i think most people would know, backing up on your toes.
00:25:17
Speaker
Yes. yeah We all know that, right? yeah Here's how it happened. We're up in good old Mawa, New Jersey. or mala Shout out Byrne County.
00:25:28
Speaker
Yeah. And at the beginning of a 1982 show, I started on the 50 and then i backed up to like the 20 yard line and then the back hash and I had to cross over to side two at 180 beats per minute.
00:25:45
Speaker
And we should make our footlock story to good on let's go we couldn't make set. in znggali from on top of the truck goes par sabox How can you make your set?
00:25:56
Speaker
And I said, well, I think if I get up on my toes, like my platform, I didn't know what platform was. I just hate you right now. I hate you. The word just came out of my mouth. And I said, and if I keep my legs straight, I think I could get three, four inches for every beat to get closer.
00:26:14
Speaker
And Zingali goes, absolutely not again. And we didn't make it again. and he goes again. We didn't make it again. he goes again. Jump core, come all the way into the 50, front and center.
00:26:26
Speaker
Eric Sabock, show them what you're talking about. And then ah they said, okay, let's break for lunch. And when we came back from lunch, we spent a four-hour block learning how to back up on our toes. I...
00:26:38
Speaker
Literally cannot. I literally cannot. This is like, I have to say, this is the reason why this podcast exists. Because these are the stories that must be told.
00:26:54
Speaker
I don't know who it in across the world is going to hear this in any sort of way. But to know where you... This is ridiculous. Y'all are ridiculous. I would jump back out. Go ahead, continue on with this lovely... i mean Jeremy is shook right now, but I know all of you and I know all of the people that you're talking about. And I've been taught by all the people that you're talking about.
00:27:16
Speaker
So I'm not shook at all. I'm not surprised. I'm sure I'm positive that all, you know, I'm like, I'm not surprised. Very, very, very clear. We are all very aware that the entire marching art started in the Northeast and all of these concepts. yeah people One day, well, one day we'll talk about stepping off with the right foot.
00:27:34
Speaker
so Oh, God. Yeah, come on back. I think, Eric, you and I both had influence on that. Yeah, we both did. Because I was dance minor, and dancers do their right foot. Step up on the right foot. Oh, there it is. There it is.
00:27:53
Speaker
And you know why the cadets stepped up on the right foot? Not just dance, but the thing that put it over the top. Everybody steps off on the left. Let's step off on the right. Exactly.
00:28:04
Speaker
and was a mark to rest here. We all knew in the color guard world, it came from a dancer. You know what I mean? You didn't even know you knew. like You were like, oh, some somebody... Okay.
00:28:16
Speaker
ah okay I can't. I need a minute. I'm going to have to call the backup for something. I do much. I have one little shout out for Cheryl Gillick, who's not here.
00:28:27
Speaker
ah um yeah wanted to be i know She wanted to be. yeah Whenever there was ah a drill where the color guard had to go, you know, some ungodly amount of space.
00:28:44
Speaker
would say, and Cheryl was on the end, and they go, who should we put on the end? And we go, Phil Hauer. Because she'll make it. The tiniest little legs, but you got there.
00:28:56
Speaker
Compeller high water, she made her dot every time. She's amazing. Another act another world guardsman, girl. Yep, yep, exactly. exactlyll And I'll tell you what, guys, let's let's throw a shout out to the West Coast, because Debbie Plie, point with your toes, jazz run for the horn line,
00:29:14
Speaker
Let's give a big shout out to Stanley Kanon for bringing that back. And Stacey. And Stacey. that home Absolutely. definitely Absolutely.
00:29:26
Speaker
I mean, Tommy, taking it back to you, I mean, I remember that episode where we did, where we had you on and you talked about how you were starting this 34 Foundation and what you guys wanted to do.
00:29:38
Speaker
And you've already accomplished so much. Yeah. Like, like what else do you want? You know, what else do you want to accomplish that you could talk about right now?
00:29:51
Speaker
Well, the 34th foundation is going to keep growing and hopefully we'll get more people involved to help raising money because the money, the money's all going back. The only operating expenses we take for the foundation is the insurance and the website, you know?
00:30:06
Speaker
Um, 34, Eric and I are also serving on the Board of Performing Arts. And they're working closely. We have, obviously, Envy has been a very successful Winter Guard program.
00:30:18
Speaker
We're going in into, what, now a third fourth year it is? Going on four. Going on four. And there's a couple other programs in the oven baking right now that we'll see for 2026 should be pretty busy.
00:30:32
Speaker
Oh, come on, Tommy. There's going to be a big internet announcement.

Legacy Drum and Bugle Corps Announcement

00:30:36
Speaker
Watch out for the social media that's on Wednesday. Listen. That's all you get. That's all you get. Listen.
00:30:45
Speaker
That, since I'm, since, as Tommy just mentioned, one my... and This episode doesn't come out until Friday. This episode doesn't come out until Friday. You can fully explain what's going to happen if you want to, based on the announcement. It's like, the announcement was just made.
00:31:01
Speaker
Say it. Breaking news! On Wednesday, we will have announced that Legacy German Reveal Corps will take the field in 2026 as a sound sport.
00:31:15
Speaker
And the idea...
00:31:20
Speaker
on wednesday we will in that have announced that legacy german uour we'll take the field in twenty twenty six as a sounds sport and the idea The idea behind Legacy, we will follow the ethos and principles of the cadets ah with a new generation of young performers, a very innovative staff,
00:31:44
Speaker
When you see the names on the staff, we'll save that for another day. When you see the names that want to make this work along with Eric, myself and ah fantastic board of directors, 2026 is going to be a blast.
00:31:58
Speaker
And, you know, hopefully everything goes according to plan. Legacy will be around for 90 years. And just to continue that tradition of excellence and just carry on the legacy of Holy Name into the future for the next generation of marching members.
00:32:13
Speaker
And I think that
00:32:16
Speaker
clear year let's work run wide for a little bit the applause and that that go out youre like you very you you might unhappy at all its I think it's really important for people here now too,
00:32:33
Speaker
is that um ah foundation is housing the history of lira and legacy will not be the ten time bci ten time american legion champion but it will be its own startup no history from day one the history will be created and we just have looked at it and gone you know dci without something with the cadet spirit of innovation and tradition and that ethos has been missing for the past couple summers from dci and listen we're cadets
00:33:07
Speaker
And the people helping us are cadets and will happen to be, you know, in North Jersey. And hopefully we get promoted out of sound sport, you know, in the proper amount of time, maybe really quick, maybe really long.
00:33:18
Speaker
But we the the level of support from people within the activity, be it sponsors and alumni and instructors, it's been nothing but love.
00:33:30
Speaker
and And we're in, Hey, we're prepared that there'll be some detractors like, you know, what, why do you think you can do this? And you know what? We're crazy. That's why. So the foundation, the foundation is the museum for the cadets, Drummond, Google Corps, Cadets of Bergen County, Garfield cadets, fully named cadets.
00:33:48
Speaker
And, That's that ends. We are not taking anything from the cadets other than the ethos. And so we're a completely standalone organization. i When I say we, I advise and I'm a board member.
00:34:04
Speaker
It's Tommy Mielo who's at the helm of ah Legacy and I'm at the helm of the company.
00:34:12
Speaker
And how we help each other on both has just been inspiring. and And we'll teach these kids their legacy of carrying on a tradition, but be brand new at the same time.
00:34:26
Speaker
But you know where it came from. So Trish, you freaked me out a little bit. And I was text messaging Tommy in the background at the beginning of this episode when you said, we have a great episode tonight, this weekend. It's all about legacy. And I was like, oh, no, no, ah no. was it I was going there a little tongue in cheek, but I was trying to think of a way to incorporate that.
00:34:56
Speaker
what you guys were coming on for and what Justin was coming on for. So you guys were, you guys are preserving way. Just, yeah, exactly. Oh yeah. Tommy, can we keep the song? just yeah exactly with all oh yeah on me um can we keep this long Can you keep this song?
00:35:16
Speaker
Oh, holy. Eric, we've been talking about this. Well, here here's the one idea. Teach the kids the same song. Yeah. But the last line, you change it for our legacy shall always be.
00:35:27
Speaker
ah Perfect. That's beautiful. That's gotta to chill with beautiful. A couple of different ideas. That was the first one we came up with. You like that? it all approved Sadie Wallace approved.
00:35:38
Speaker
Oh my God. Yeah. We come up with a couple of different ideas. well It's just something about that song. I don't know if guys are familiar with it, Jerry and Jeremy and And let's tease this one too, Tommy.
00:35:55
Speaker
yeah follow There's two people um that kind of start from the top of the design team and the design team will be kind of built out from these two people and then the caption heads and the staff from there.
00:36:09
Speaker
But I think when... um I think matching up Jay Bokuk's musical arrangements with the mind and brilliance of a Greg LaGolla is going to make for a real fun drum corps.
00:36:26
Speaker
Nice.
00:36:30
Speaker
And what we wanted- is Like killing it over, like what is happening right now? you kind of do We're in a vortex. Since we're starting out in SoundSport, maybe going to open class relatively slow or quick, whatever DCI decides they want to do with with Legacy. Do you hear that, DCI?
00:36:50
Speaker
you hear that? We're like going to throw it out there. Whatever you decide. Eric says, Tommy says, whatever. going to follow the rules. Well, follow the rules. rules will be followed Follow the rules, follow procedures. That's why do see ah DCI has them. We want more drum corps involved and not less. And having a good foundation of everything is is really important.
00:37:11
Speaker
But we want to make sure the fans are really excited and and they remember us and they remember drum corps. And there's melody that they could sing in the car, know, whistle and walk in and bop into, you know, ah a melody that they know.
00:37:25
Speaker
That's how we're going to start. You know, we're, you know, Tommy and Greg and Jay are all on board with all this. A lot of this is their ideas and, um, and it's going to be a lot of fun.
00:37:35
Speaker
So look for, look for the press release, I guess. Right. And, um, and if you're going to post on Friday, that's perfect.
00:37:49
Speaker
Yeah. That's perfect. Thank you. Timing is everything. It's going to right ok Great. Okay. That's all got. Sadie, your must head must be like exploding like Jeremy's was a minute ago right now. So what do you think? What are your thoughts of it as a former cadet staff member, the creator of the crab walk? like what What are your thoughts right now? Oh, creator. It was a team effort. Everything we did was...
00:38:17
Speaker
collaborative team effort. believe And that's why we love marching band. And that's why we love the marching arts because everything is a collaborative effort. Absolutely. I am so heartened by it because I was so saddened by the demise. Um, I just really, I couldn't believe it.
00:38:34
Speaker
I was in denial for, you know, a long time. And, uh, ah Last year at Peggy's Memorial, you know we had a big group of ah alumni there, and they stood up and we sang the song. And the Lancer people, some of them came and joined us. I mean, it was just, ah so I couldn't be happier.
00:38:56
Speaker
I couldn't be happier. that's That's fantastic. Awesome. Yeah. Amazing. I mean, we made it through the 1984, the 50th anniversary, which was fantastic.
00:39:07
Speaker
um You know, Michael Cesari with his three types of gold lame. we can't just have one type of gold lame. We had have three types of gold lame.
00:39:17
Speaker
um But it was very fitting, and ah it was a great celebration for 50 years. so that' i think there's one thing that all cadets members, all cadet staff, all cadet volunteers, all cadet admin, I think there if you were to ask them what's one word that they learned in their time with the organization, be it for the greatest reasons or the worst reasons.
00:39:46
Speaker
um I think the word is perseverance. da Yeah. When you're a cadet, you, you learn to, somebody said to this to me that is recently when an advisor, when talking this out and there, and and Tommy's going to laugh when I say this, like Eric, you love to get punched in the face.
00:40:04
Speaker
Because you just love to get punched in the face. But when you get your mind set on something, you know, you're a cadet, you don't give up. And, and that's what a ah cadet is. We'll, we'll keep getting punched. We'll keep getting up. You know, the, you know, hard is easy to do.
00:40:20
Speaker
But for a cadet, the impossible, just give us a little more time. Yeah, it's true. And it carries through your life too. And in any situations you have. But we get the reactions like we got from Sadie there. and I know we we just met this tonight. If we get reactions like that over and over again, it just makes the blood, sweat and tears.
00:40:41
Speaker
Right. but Like, yes, I would. I'm so glad you said that, Tommy, because I jumping back in and just for me to jump out of this, because I have nothing to do with any of this. I'm just like the history and all that is like more mind blowing to me.
00:40:55
Speaker
But I would have to imagine Tommy. And Eric, you hearing Sadie like say that is probably exactly what how do you did hear. How you this?
00:41:06
Speaker
I don't know how to do this. I'm old. i don't know how to do this. Well, let me tell you one thing. Remember when the cadets, they were giving, staff members and alumni were giving their jackets to the new people and everything, oh, to carry on.
00:41:21
Speaker
I would not, I was being selfish. I would not give up my jacket. I still have it. Something just told me to hold on to that. And I'm so glad because i can wear it like if i when I see Legacy and, you know, be proud.
00:41:39
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. i yeah Great. Can't wait. Can't wait. Now i got to do, sitting here and do drum corps work for four hours because you just motivated me. I'm working on the budget.
00:41:52
Speaker
yeah zero look at there you go There you go. I think we completely blew up your schedule for this episode. It's all good. It's all good. as We are a weekly podcast. this is we we don't We have a format, but sometimes nothing gets thrown out the window. though No one cares.
00:42:11
Speaker
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00:44:42
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Okay, everybody, we are back. And it is time for our 60 Second Tech Block. 60 Second Tech Block.
00:44:56
Speaker
60 second text block! That's my favorite part of the whole thing. Okay, this is the segment where one of our hosts or guest clinicians is put on the spot to deliver a nonstop 60 second text session on a topic that needs some serious attention after the last run.
00:45:13
Speaker
Our special tech this week has come prepared with three topics they think they can talk about for a full 60 seconds straight. No hesitation, no pauses, just pure technical gold.
00:45:24
Speaker
And this week, let's see, I think we'll throw it over to Justin. Nice. Let's do it. Justin. Yeah, let's do it. Justin, you said your best topics were using videos, not just for run-throughs, getting over performance anxiety,
00:45:40
Speaker
how to achieve a three spin under a five inside your house. That's the one I want to hear about. I want to hear about achieving a three spin under a five inside your house. Everybody else. What do you guys think?
00:45:52
Speaker
Yeah, I think we have to go with that. Yeah, for sure. Okay. So let's go with that one. All right, Justin, are you ready? Ready as I'll ever be.
00:46:03
Speaker
Eric, can you pull up a 60 second timer on your phone? Chewed up and ready to go. All right. 60 seconds on the clock and go So I think one of the biggest things before attempting even a triple turn is to be able to take every step down from there, being able to do a double turn, a single turn, and even just a technique five and know that your consistency is something that you can trust.
00:46:27
Speaker
So number one, you don't hurt yourself. Number two, you don't hurt the walls. And number three, your mom doesn't come in the room yelling at you because you just broke a vase off of the stool you have sitting on the corner.
00:46:38
Speaker
I think one of the biggest things for me when I was attempting it is overcoming the anxiety of not trying to spot when I'm all the way up and looking behind me, which slows down my turns.
00:46:50
Speaker
So being able to just trust that my placement and technique is something that I need to just go with and be able to spot that last turn right as it's rotating and catch it in my hands And then also look confident while doing it and not looking like, oh my God, there's a rifle spinning and I'm turning and it's inside and my mom's right next to me.
00:47:09
Speaker
and being able to And being able to understand how my body is supposed to move while also being able to keep all of my technique and keep everything that I need to keep in my mind so fresh that I don't hurt anything.
00:47:22
Speaker
Yes. Way to justin
00:47:31
Speaker
Justin. What did you guys think about that? That was great. was wonderful. That lets just Let me tell you something. about your turn Do you like put an X on the floor so that you know where to be?
00:47:43
Speaker
they do not know. Okay. Just a thought. So when just was Justin was talking about like the ceilings and the space and your mom and all that stuff, it took me back to my days when I was in Royal Guardsman with Sadie and Eric.
00:48:00
Speaker
And i my room at home was down in the basement. And there's like, you know, like those white, like foamy tile ceiling, whatever they are.
00:48:11
Speaker
Let me just, let me just give you my tech block tip here. Now, Zima, do you good do you even know, john Justin, what Nazima is? do not. This white stuff that you used to like wash your face with. It's like this white stuff that used to come a jar to wash your face with. And because it's white, it does not cover up those spots on the ceiling that you don't want your parents to see that you hit the ceiling. standing doesn't work.
00:48:38
Speaker
I wish I could reach my ceiling to be able to cover it up. I will say I've definitely dinked my ceiling more than once in the time i have been spinning in my house. It's just, it's way too high for me to be able to hide it or cover it up before i hear my mom walking down the hall. Did you hit the ceiling again?
00:48:59
Speaker
i love that. That's great. I love that. Okay, so that was an awesome 60-second tech block. Hopefully someone out there just got the tech advice that they didn't know they needed.
00:49:12
Speaker
But now it's time to switch things up a little. It's time for everybody's favorite, What Are We Doing? What Are We Doing? What Are We Doing?
00:49:28
Speaker
What Are We Doing? This is the part of the show where we let loose a little bit, or maybe a lot. I mean, like we haven't let loose at all. this yeah ah This is your chance to rant about something in the marching arts that just doesn't make sense.
00:49:44
Speaker
Maybe it's a tradition that needs to go. Maybe it's a habit it that performers can't seem to break. Maybe it's something that makes you think, why are we even doing this? Or why haven't we started doing this yet? Whatever it is, this is your moment to call it out. So who's got something they need to get off their chest?
00:49:59
Speaker
Justin, like what are we doing?

Justin's Makeup Preferences in Marching Arts

00:50:02
Speaker
I think my thing that I need to get off the chest is I know it's a very big thing in the marching community, but I hate when there's like colorful face makeup everywhere and it's just covering the entire face.
00:50:18
Speaker
Like, call me old-fashioned, but I love a nice, good, very, like, simple, pretty eye look.
00:50:27
Speaker
Love it. Agreed. she Love it. Okay. Okay. Who's next? Tommy, what are we doing? Oh, man. At the moment, I can't even think of anything. I'm still focused on what we're doing and um and just overwhelmed with full podcast. I mean...
00:50:45
Speaker
i mean i to throw it I mean, I could throw it to what you and I always talk about, which is what are my Yankees doing? Losing again. They're losing three, two. Oh, no, you want to talk about something enjoyable like that. That's a different, different. What are the Yankees doing?
00:51:01
Speaker
you know how many people came up to me at the Clifted show, which was the week that TJ LeMay was released? You're the first person that I thought of. You're the first person I thought of. You're the first person I thought of.
00:51:13
Speaker
So what were they doing? At least now you can focus on Keith instead of DJ. Oh, my gosh. He listens to this. Hello. Okay.
00:51:23
Speaker
All right. Uh, Sadie, what are we doing? Wow. What are we doing? Um, I think I talked about this on the the other time I was on the podcast. Uh, and again, cause I'm old, um, and I'm used to working in George Singali drill type things that there's, that your eye follows one thing to one effect. Um,
00:51:47
Speaker
And there's so many effects on that football field. i don't know where to look. And I want to look at everything because they're all fantastic. The color guard's spinning three rifles at a time doing cartwheel, you know, but I like to watch the drum line too. And they're doing cool stuff. And I like to watch the line.
00:52:06
Speaker
So for me, it would be just maybe a little more focus on, you know, Eric, one effect that blows your mind like a Z pole that, that one again but just tidy it up a little bit.
00:52:21
Speaker
Is that, is that, do I sound old fashioned? No, but I mean, that's that's just a hard for thing for me to watch. Cause I've been watching on, you know, YouTube and everything. And,
00:52:32
Speaker
From the last couple of years, for sure. But that's still, I just, you know, I get anxiety because I don't want to watch, you know, i have to I'd have to watch the show like five times to see everything that I want to see.
00:52:45
Speaker
that i hear you. Does that make sense at all? It does. It does. ah Eric, what are we doing? oh boy. I got three of them and I can't really choose which one that's more important. them quickly and I get it quickly.
00:53:00
Speaker
Um, one, I want a spontaneous reaction, like throwing babies. When you go to a drum corps show, I don't want to feel, i don't want to be overcome by high notes and intricate passages and drum features, 12 drum features.
00:53:13
Speaker
I want something that emotionally charges me. Um, Two, I'm kind of over all the electronics a little bit. I like them. They're not going to go away, but I think they're kind of being overused at this point in time ah where I want it to be the performers on the field, not the person behind the soundboard.
00:53:31
Speaker
And my favorite one is I think that every summer, every drum corps food truck should have to break down for one day on tour. Oh no. Oh no.
00:53:45
Speaker
good Remember and know what us old people went through. Oh no, no, no, no. no And please don't make it be spirit of Atlanta. My little cousins marching there and I'll save it from my duck and go, but I'll do my, what are we doing now?
00:54:03
Speaker
Troopers. Troopers. Troopers. So the troopers have a new ending and it's bringing out the coffin and the trooper is writing off into the sunset.
00:54:15
Speaker
So I have a friend who's on the guard staff and I texted him and I go, wow, the guard looks really, like I watched just watching on flow. The guard looks really great, but you know, what's going on? Like what, you know, he said, they're just going to like, you know, they're doing away with the whole trooper character that they've done with the last couple of years. And they're going to try to do something a little bit more modern.
00:54:33
Speaker
next year. and even though everything has to change, I just got like a weird feeling about it. Like there's some, there's some cores that like,
00:54:44
Speaker
You can't just get too far away from it. I just feel like, I mean, Justin, you marched Phantom Regiment. You could tell it's Phantom Regiment on the field. You could tell it's the Phantom Regiment, even though they're dressed totally different. You know, it's a completely different, you know, style vibe, whatever.
00:54:58
Speaker
You can, we, we see them coming. We go, okay, that's the Phantom Regiment we watched when we, you know, when we were young. Like it's, you know, you saw all that tradition. It's there. And there's just some groups that I know you guys are going through this with, you know, with, with the cadet, whole cadets thing.
00:55:12
Speaker
You can't, you just can't break too far away from it. So, I mean, I haven't seen the show live. I'm going to see it this weekend in Allentown, but, um, so their program coordinator got up on Facebook and said,
00:55:26
Speaker
um it's It's public. I mean, I don't care if you don't like it. We like it. We love it. And I'm like, oh, like you don't, oh, like you just open yourself up for everybody to comment, to be like, we don't like it. Okay. We don't like your ending. We like the troopers. Like we want the 11 on the app Like we want all that. you know what I mean?
00:55:46
Speaker
So by putting up that status, like, okay, now you're just opening up a can of worms. And you know, it's funny. Cause I was talking to one of my friends and i was like, they could still be modern and still be them. Like I'm going to throw back again. Justin's a phantom. You could still be modern and still be them, you know, and, but now you just opened it up. So Justin, what do you think being a phantom alum?
00:56:08
Speaker
I definitely agree with that. A hundred percent. I understand the evolving as the sport evolves, because obviously if we were to stay where we were 20, 30 years ago, we would be nowhere compared to where we are today.
00:56:23
Speaker
And I think it's such an important thing for every core to go through. However, I think being able to understand where this modern era has come from and the predecessors that we're following is such an important part of what makes this activity so amazing and so great. Because we have so many generations and decades to fall back onto when we're going through hard times or even just when you need somebody to be like, go Phantom, go whoever.
00:56:53
Speaker
Being able to have those alums be able to come and support you no matter what what your show is because it's still the Phantom Regiment or whatever core it is. i would I agree. I would tell you too, is that I am personal friends with troopers program coordinator.
00:57:11
Speaker
but who They're never going to lose the spirit of the troopers. Oh, that's good. That's reassuring. Yeah, they they they know who they are and they know who they want to be. They're just going to do, they're going to tell the story a little bit differently is what I would so like I was throwing it back to like um the oil show a couple of years My God. that was super modern.
00:57:32
Speaker
You had a cellist up on top of the the oil rig. Like you had, that was very different for that show. you know what I mean? Like, but they were still the troopers, you know what i mean? So that's what I'm hoping Eric, that they're going to do.
00:57:45
Speaker
They're still going to be the troopers, but just a more modern version. And then I think everybody will be happy. I think, I think all the modern drum corps have, um, kind of, uh, they go down a rabbit hole of, we need to be different.
00:57:59
Speaker
And as they explore being different and unique and trend setting and, you know, all the things that the cadets were in the eighties and the nineties, a lot of these drum corps in a much more modern way are doing it now.
00:58:10
Speaker
they always come back to who they are. When when you get into the top six, there's a lot of experimentation, but when you look down, you still know it's Vanguard.
00:58:21
Speaker
You still know it took Phantom Regiment a few years to get into that top six where they could experiment and be the Phantom Regiment, right? You know it's a Crown. like You know it's the Boston Crusaders.
00:58:33
Speaker
I love the fact that the Blue Devils are wearing blue. Right. With all that sublimation down to both hand legs, there's even, if you look close, there's even a white stripe down their hand legs.
00:58:46
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You know, so i think the more we evolve and the more we try new things and Vanguard is definitely doing avant-garde without a doubt. But, you know, I think more people come back and go, well, we've explored all this. Now, how does that fit into our personality?
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I think the Coats in Boston are doing that phenomenally. I love the fact that there is melody in the Blue Devil show. It's the only two songs I i really could walk to the car singing.
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cashmere and the evanescence song you know i i i think it's phenomenal that we're pointing that direction again thankfully
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absolutely great job everyone set your equipment down touch and go
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All right, we got that off our chests. Let's get into our gush and goes. This is your chance to shout out something awesome happening in your life, marching arts related or not.
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Maybe you're excited about a performance, a student success, a big life event, or just something cool you want to brag about. No negativity here. Just pure on it's called gush go just pure oninfi of unfiltered hype. So who's got something to gush about?
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Justin. Yes. So I'm personally super excited about the fact that within the next two weeks, I'm finally going to be able to move into my actual apartment.
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But for the past couple of weeks, it's been yeah so crazy trying to find everything and try to get everything together. But I know the fact the second I walk in that apartment and I'm staying with three of my bestest color guard friends that I've made from college, it's going to be nonstop party until we graduate our senior year.
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That's amazing. Do you plan to march this winter? You do. Unfortunately, I do not. Just due where I'm located at the University of Illinois, there really isn't anywhere close enough while also being able to direct the color guard that I'm directing.
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i I wish I could. i have tried to contact so many people like, can you help me out during winter? And I've just, I've had zero luck. So unless I can find somebody who is willing to be able to grow the program to where I want it to be, I just don't see it feasible to be able to do that while also maintaining my grades, my job, and then also just not spending $10,000 on gas because gas is expensive.
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It is. All right. On the water break listeners. If you can help Justin March this winter, come in and work with his kids so he could, you know, March on the weekends, let him know.
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What is Sadie? What are you gushing and going about? Well, I will say that I am very proud of myself. I performed in, i call it an old lady dance group because I'm 71. It's called the Spectacular Follies.
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You must be 55 or better. Yes. And I auditioned and I got into the dance line. They have a lot of singers, ah former professional singers anyway. um And I got to dance with these young 60 year olds.
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But it was true dancing that I hadn't performed in years, you know, if ever. I was in five different numbers. You had to wear character shoes. And, you know, it was was a great experience. I would love to see that.
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Cause I had had some medical issues and still have some. So I was very proud of myself. It's a, it's a wild group. These, these old people, let me tell you, very spectacularfollies dot com you you'll see a little clip. I would love to see it. I will do that. I will. It was hilarious and funny and hard all at the same time.
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Of course I wanted to clean all the numbers, but I was, it was my first. um I held back. When I asked them what count that was on, they'd say, well, we're not sure. Like, ah okay. so of course, I wrote all the counts out for everybody. Oh, I can't wait to watch it. I can't wait. But it was ah it was a really unique experience, and i'm I'm glad I pushed myself to do it because I didn't think I would be able to. yeah.
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Yeah. Excellent. Good for you, Sadie. I can't wait to see it. You guys should all check it out. yeah and Tommy, what are you gushing about? I of have an idea. Yeah, we got to know. and I'm just excited about the potential of Dream Performing Arts and Legacy and all the programs with the amazing group of people, ah the board, the staff, the admin, and the 34 Foundation.
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The same thing, the potential that that is there and excitement, helping the marching arts grow into the next the next hundred years. yeah
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Eric, what's your gushy go? ah Well, obviously everything that we announced tonight at 34 Foundation and us coming into you know the homestretch of ah some of these legal things um and in the cadets memorabilia.
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but I got a fun story. um It's going to start with some tragedy, but it it it always ends up good. um Many of you guys know that I'm a golden retriever dad. They're my babies. and And from October to January, I lost two very special dogs in my life.
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And when one passed away, I got my younger dog ah a puppy. And then two months later, that dog passed away. So I was just left with the one puppy. And I get my dogs. I fly up from Houston, Texas to a breeder near Princeton.
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And when I told her about the second dog passing, she goes, I just had a litter last week. And I picked him up on St. Patrick's Day 2025. ah twenty twenty five And his name is St. Patrick.
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And the special thing about St. Patrick is if anyone knows Kirk Herbstreet, the ESPN football and college football. Yeah, yeah, sure. And he he all his social media, you see the Golden Retrievers with him.
01:05:10
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Well, my little buddy St. Patrick is Kirk Herbstreet's puppy's brother. Oh, my gosh. Wow.
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Yeah, so my my little boy has a ah very famous so younger brother now. So that's my gushing about that. I love it. Well, my gushing go is DCI East weekend. I am so excited for so many reasons.
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ah get to see so many friends and all the shows. I'm going Friday and Saturday. All the shows that I've seen all year and flow. I'm going to finally see live.
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ah My boyfriend's coming. He's got stuff out there he wants to do. But the most exciting thing is I'm finally going to see my little cousin perform with Spirit of Atlanta. And I'm so, so excited.
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I know listeners of the podcast have heard me since the minute she got contracted. She did this all on her own. She was in her high school garden, in South Carolina, Crescent High School Varsity.
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She did. And then she decided to go and audition for spirit. She got contracted here. She is going into DCI East weekend one week from the end. And I am so excited.
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So shout out to Haley. You almost did it, girl. You're almost there. You're almost at the finish line. I'm so proud. Somebody else in my family is crazy about this activity. Like i am. And I'm so proud of her.
01:06:38
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That's great. My daughter-in-law is a spirit of Atlanta alumni as well. All right. Yes. Yes. That's awesome. It's called gush go, not gush and stay. Let's go.
01:06:53
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Well, thanks so much everybody for a great rehearsal this week. Thank you for everyone who was spending time with us today. Justin, Tommy, Sadie, Eric, and even Jeremy popped in.
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um And can you all tell us where we could find you on social media, Justin? ah You can find me at justin.vs.guard. That's really it. I don't have much many social media platforms. Okay.
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Eric. I'm easy to find as Eric Sabock at Facebook, but also the 1934foundation.org and the 1934 Foundation on Facebook.
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Awesome. Tommy. Yep, same thing. Tommy Maiello on Facebook. ah Dream Performing Arts is on Facebook. Legacy will be on Facebook. Envy, Hype, Wins, they're all on Facebook.
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And come check it out. And finally, Sadie. On Instagram, I i am m.sadiewallis. And on Facebook, just Sadie Wallace.
01:08:24
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