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LEAVE TRISHA PAYTAS ALONE! A Deep Dive Into Internet Royalty
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From YouTube breakdowns to mukbang fame, OnlyFans dominance to the Just Trish podcast, this deep dive unpacks how Trisha went from canceled to camp, Gen Z icon. We’re talking eras, evolutions, and everything in between, including how the support of her husband, Moses, and her podcast cohost, Oscar, helped her heal. 🎧 Listen to the full podcast episode on Spotify, Apple, or wherever you crash out 📞 Call the Hot Girl Crash Out Hotline: (323) 380-2191 📱 Follow @clubcrave on TikTok & @clubcravemedia on Instagram 💌 Like, comment, subscribe & leave a review if you stan
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Trisha Paytas: Rebrand or Personal Growth?
00:00:00
Speaker
So today we are answering the big question. Did Trisha Paytas actually rebrand or did she just, you know, grow and learn and become a better person through learning healthy habits and all of her content reflected? They're doing the most trying to convince the world that Trisha is just the devil.
00:00:20
Speaker
And y'all, I will bring it to you now. I've met her. She's very lovely.
00:00:49
Speaker
Hello, everyone, and welcome to the Club Crave podcast. I am your host, Nick Williams. Oh, it's episode three, y'all. We are here. still We're still rolling, you guys. We're still doing the thing.
00:01:02
Speaker
You know, I looked into it, and it was like a lot of podcasts stop after about four episodes. um So we haven't made it to four yet, but I challenged myself to make it to 15 episodes at least.
00:01:13
Speaker
And I feel like once we get to 15, you know, it'll be like, a lot easier to keep going because I've got our routines down and and all that. So, and I've edited 15 episodes, so I'll find faster ways to edit and whatnot. And I'll get my rhythm down.
00:01:28
Speaker
I think I'm also working on getting my style down and just kind of what I want the structure of this to be. I'm playing around with different things and I hope that's okay with y'all.
Introducing Club Crave Podcast
00:01:36
Speaker
um If this is your first time listening to the Club Crave podcast, um I'll give you a rundown about who we are, what we do.
00:01:43
Speaker
um So I am personally a huge fangirl and stan of a lot of different um influencers and celebrities out there. I spend a lot of my time scrolling the TikToks.
00:01:58
Speaker
looking on Twitter, um Instagrams, you know, all the things and keeping up with my with my side of the internet, right? um But I want to get to know your side of the internet.
00:02:10
Speaker
I want to get into the nitty gritty. want to hear about the emo influencers out there or the gamers. And I want to know what drives them, what motivates them.
00:02:21
Speaker
And I want to have them on and we're going to do virtual interviews and we are going to have actually um some in-person interviews too. We've got this studio set up to actually have guests. So um if you're in Nashville or you are planning a trip to Nashville and you want to come sit in this chair um over here, please um give me, um you can give me a call at the hotline um or you can um just send me a DM and I will definitely um get back to you about that because we're Again, we want to have anyone from influencers um to you know people with fan accounts or just like interesting like stories about a celebrity encounter or whatnot.
00:03:01
Speaker
That's something I'm playing around with too, adding into this. So if that resonates with you at all and you had a crazy celebrity encounter, please reach out um because I'd love to have you on to talk about it. Even if it's not a full episode interview, if you just want to be on for like five minutes or so, we can make that happen too.
00:03:16
Speaker
um Again, we're just getting started here. So I appreciate you all for being one of the very first listeners of the Club Crave podcast. um You know, I always love like listening to something new because, you know, it's a little clunky and it's a little ah rough around the edges.
00:03:33
Speaker
But like you get to listen when we're first getting started. And, you know, if this grows into something really cool, like I'm i'm i'm keeping note of y'all who are commenting and are are supporting right now because I want to be able to say these were my like day one supporters. So um yeah, I appreciate y'all so much.
00:03:52
Speaker
um Today's episode is a little bit different than the first two episodes.
Trisha Paytas: Evolution and Impact
00:03:57
Speaker
So the first two episodes I had my husband on. And I had a guest. um And this time we're going to do a deep dive.
00:04:06
Speaker
And I feel like I can sprinkle these deep dives in, um you know, and ah to spice things up a little bit. And um I have just been dying to do a deep dive on this topic. And if you saw, I mean, you saw the title, so you know.
00:04:22
Speaker
ah We are diving into our queen, Trisha Paytas. Now, listen, y'all, I'm a huge Trisha Paytas fan. um If you know me from Oscar Crave, shout out.
00:04:35
Speaker
um Thanks for coming over and supporting me over here. That means so much to me that you decided to follow me over on this new journey and this new project. But basically... um Yeah, i I had a fan account for Trisha Paytas' co-host on her podcast, Just Trish.
00:04:52
Speaker
And I ran that account, I'm still running that account, and we're actually coming up on a year. And yeah, it's been a whole journey. I went to a lot of Trisha's shows and did like interviews there um with fans.
00:05:05
Speaker
And that's what kind of inspired this whole thing. Yeah. Oh my god, Virgin by Lord just dropped you guys as we're speaking and I'm recording this podcast right now and it's killing me and I literally cannot listen to the ah Lord right now because if i do...
00:05:21
Speaker
I'm going to get like a copyright strike or something, but oh my God. Oh my God. If you haven't watched the first two episodes of this podcast, I've been like freaking out about Lord and this, in this album. And I forgot it was about to drop right now. Well, I would have been done with this podcast.
00:05:38
Speaker
recording by now but i keep having technical difficulties we're we're in a new studio we're new podcast we we have some issues sometime um but anyways welcome to episode three if you saw the title this is a deep dive into our queen queen of the internet trisha paytas now listen if you're a hater and want you to stay on okay because have a pitch for the haters out there and um i just want you to listen in because I really think, and you might think I'm crazy right now, but I really think Treja Paytas is such a great example.
00:06:15
Speaker
Um, and she inspires so many and I think we should, we should, um, cheer her on for that, you know, and we should, um, be happy for her and, um, those, companies out there should sponsor her, um, and whatnot. There's, there's a lot we're going to get into today basically. And, um,
00:06:34
Speaker
Yeah, I just have basically a message and a pitch for all of the haters out there, as well as people who love and adore her. You will enjoy this episode because we're going to get into all of the things. So
Audience Interaction: Hot Girl Crash Out Hotline
00:06:44
Speaker
um before we get started, i would like to shout out the Hot Girl Crash Out Hotline.
00:06:50
Speaker
um This episode, since we're doing a deep dive, we're not going to do any calls. I saw a couple of other calls came in. I'm really excited to listen to them. It kills me not listening to them, um but I'll put the number up on the screen now.
00:07:02
Speaker
And basically what this hotline is, you're going to give us a call whenever something happens during the week. um Like right now I'm crashing out about Lorde and her new album. um That's what I would, you know, pick up my phone.
00:07:15
Speaker
I would dial the number or I would, you know, click. ah Get notifications on my computer. um I would click on the. um If I had it saved in my phone, I would click on it and give it a call and crash out.
00:07:30
Speaker
I opened this hotline because, you know, there's many times where things on the internet happen and you don't really have anybody to talk about because you're just so into something that nobody else in your friend group may be into or anyone in your family.
00:07:44
Speaker
So I figured, you know, what a fun little way to connect with each other. And we can learn about your niche of the internet. If you're crashing out about something that I have no clue, we're going to dig into it here on the podcast. So um please call in. It'll be a fun time.
00:07:58
Speaker
And yeah. um And actually, you know what? I meant to say the phone number here um because we do have some audio listeners and I would hate...
00:08:10
Speaker
to rob them of that opportunity of giving us a call. So um let me find the phone number here. Okay. So if you're listening to the audio and I'll put the graphic up one more time, um put this in your phone for when pop culture emergency happens, um you know, something, know,
00:08:28
Speaker
crazy happens during the week and you need to crash out about it. That phone number is 323-380-2191. And I left a little ah like personalized voicemail message on there um to kind of prompt you. So like if you're nervous to leave a call, I kind of will help you with what to say. All right, guys, let's get into Trisha Paytas, the deep dive.
00:08:50
Speaker
Y'all, she is a controversial figure. You know, I would argue that Not so much anymore, but she's still, for some reason, controversial to a lot of people.
00:09:02
Speaker
And what I want this episode to really dig into is is that. you know i don't i don't totally understand why people have such a negative reaction to Trisha's name.
00:09:13
Speaker
you know When I hear Trisha Paytas' name, I light up. I'm excited. I'm inspired. You know what i mean? And you most people know Trisha, I think, at our age or like... um ah young the gen z's they all know trisha um so everyone has a different reaction i think most of gen z would be like yeah she's iconic well the girlies in the gays at least um but there's a lot of people out there who just like she's a terrible person why the hell would you like a trisha paytas um and i don't know what it is but i will defend her till the day i die um and that's what this video is you we're defending our girl from the haters um
00:09:53
Speaker
There's a lot of Trisha haters out there, you guys. It's kind of insane. I don't know if you guys have encountered them online yet, um but there's like this group out there, which we're going to get into a little bit more, um who are absolutely obsessed with her in a way that is just so freaky and just awful.
00:10:17
Speaker
um I swear that they... probably tune in and watch Trisha more than I do. And I run a whole fan account, you know, about Trisha and the podcast and Oscar.
00:10:27
Speaker
um So it just baffles me. um But yeah, when I first kind of got into the world of Trisha and kind of made an account that was centered around that world, They came for me, y'all.
00:10:40
Speaker
They came for my neck and they tried to convince me, you know, that she was just the worst person. And, you know, I don't fall for that stuff. I think there are some really gullible people out there would fall for that and and just listen to what they're saying and be like, oh, my God, yikes. What was I thinking supporting Trisha Paytas?
00:10:59
Speaker
But you have to look at the full picture, right? So that is what we're going to get
Trisha's Changes: Natural or Calculated?
00:11:04
Speaker
into now. So today we are answering the big question. Did Trisha Paytas actually rebrand or did she just, you know, grow and learn and become a better person through learning healthy habits? And all of her content reflected that.
00:11:22
Speaker
So in a way, I guess that's a rebrand, but I think it happened a lot more naturally and it wasn't like, you know, super methodical or like super planned out. I think Trisha really, you know, has grown as a person and we see that in her content today and we see that in her spirit and her energy and how she inspires others.
00:11:46
Speaker
All right, let's take a step back to the early days of Trisha Paytas. So Trisha Paytas was born in Illinois. um She later moved to California where she was a pop culture obsessed girl, right?
00:12:01
Speaker
um She ah was a huge Michael Jackson fan, which um I absolutely love hearing about Trisha's like fangirl moments because that's so me-coded when it comes to Trisha.
00:12:15
Speaker
i'm like when trisha talks about donny osmond or michael jackson i'm like girl when you talk about donny and how like you want to be as bestie and whatnot and like you went to all the shows and stuff like that that is me with you so um it i just love hearing about it because it makes me feel a little less crazy you know what i mean sometimes like i'm worried trisha thinks i'm nuts because i'm just like all about her and like wanting to like you know, i just support her a lot. And I just really enjoy defending her, defending her. And thus we have this episode.
00:12:50
Speaker
So Trish was um an internet fangirl. um She ah started putting up um videos on YouTube when YouTube first got started.
00:13:04
Speaker
And she was posting just about anything, y'all. And if you're a big Trisha fan, you know um those videos are anything from car rants to mukbangs to get ready with me's.
00:13:19
Speaker
And a lot of times she's just sitting there yapping. You know what i mean? And that's and it's funny because you think about our early content and our content today. And I think what we really love about her still is that she can just talk and say anything. And we are enthralled with what she has to say.
00:13:35
Speaker
um All the content um kind of blurred the lines between being like a diary and then also like a performance. It was kind of like hard to pinpoint what was real and what was fake. You know what i mean?
00:13:51
Speaker
I feel like with Trisha's content, like she always talks about being a troll and lying a lot to get views. But I feel like a lot of it's a lot more real than she likes to admit, if that makes sense. Yeah.
00:14:06
Speaker
But I do think she was ditzy and really, you know, loud and and did a lot for attention. But at the same time, a lot of it was rooted in truth. So, um well, we can go through the different Trisha Paytas eras.
00:14:20
Speaker
ah We've got, you know, Shane Dawson era when she was besties with Shane. We've got the era that she was...
00:14:31
Speaker
A little emo for a moment. She did Sad Boy 2005. um We've got the crying on the kitchen floor era. How could you forget? We love. um An era that I think is really iconic is her OnlyFans era.
00:14:45
Speaker
You know, Trish was on OnlyFans for a while and she made a lot of money, you guys. um It's funny because I think people think, you know, Trisha was nuts and, you know, nobody supports her. And like, she...
00:15:02
Speaker
she will never get support unless she matures and grows. But y'all, she didn't need to like mature grow or grow whatever. um she did that for her own good because, back in 2019 she was on only fans making bank y'all um so again she didn't need to to you know be self-realized to uh to continue a successful career she already had that um she was probably making more money then than she did now well i don't know what the tour because tours you know artists make quite a bit of change ka-ching we love that for her
00:15:35
Speaker
um But yeah, i I just think it's important to note that like she didn't have to do that. It wasn't about the success of the money. She did that for herself. Another era that was pretty iconic was the vlog squad era.
00:15:47
Speaker
ah She was dating Jason Nash at the time. and um she was in the vlogs with David Dobrik, and they were the it friend group at the time. um And I think a lot of people were exposed to Trish during this time.
00:16:01
Speaker
Me personally, I was exposed during the Shane Dawson era. um I was a big Shane Dawson fan growing up. so ah So, yeah, that's how I was exposed to her and I always loved Trisha. And I wasn't like in into her, like you know watching every single video and I wasn't like trying to go to her shows in high school or whatnot.
00:16:22
Speaker
I was just kind of you know an admirer and whenever she'd show up in a collaboration with a YouTuber I loved, I enjoyed her videos. And then I would click on every once in a while and watch her ah personal videos. But again, it's not like the stan I am today with Trisha. As soon as something drops,
00:16:36
Speaker
um i'm I'm there, baby. um With each of her different eras, Trisha Paytas has always stayed relevant. She's always known how to do that.
00:16:50
Speaker
And, you know, she talks about how she was getting very low views at times and and whatnot. But She's always been at the forefront of people's minds. Maybe they weren't always locked into her content at the time.
00:17:03
Speaker
um If you guys don't know, Trish actually had a series during the pandemic with Moses, her husband, which we will get into um later, ah called um Trish Talks.
00:17:15
Speaker
And they're little skits and they all have like this like super like important meaning and like ah but they're actually like comedy skits. um Sometimes I'm like, did they mean for this to be comedy? Should I be laughing at this? I think so.
00:17:30
Speaker
um They are so bizarre. I don't know how her mind you guys. She's very powerful. Some of those skits, I don't know where she came up with that stuff, um but they're great.
00:17:41
Speaker
Okay, y'all.
Trisha's Past and Public Perception
00:17:42
Speaker
So we all know Trisha's record is not squeaky clean. She's had her moments. um She's had quite a few moments, controversial moments. um And I don't think because you support Trisha Paytas because you're a fan, doesn't mean you just...
00:18:00
Speaker
All right, y'all. If you notice things move around a little bit, um I apologize. We're having some... We're a new podcast. We're having some technical difficulties. And I'm a one-man band. I'm going up and hitting record, checking everything constantly.
00:18:15
Speaker
So, again, i apologize for um the little visual inconsistencies. Honestly, I probably should not even call that out. Because who cares? Right? Like, who cares?
00:18:26
Speaker
um Anyways... We were getting into Trisha's controversies. um Fun topic. I think it's a little hard to talk about because, yeah, it's like, ah, I i think, um I guess my worst fear is like Trisha's going to hear this and just feel bad about, you know, those things that she did.
00:18:48
Speaker
And like, that's not, she's felt bad and she's apologized and she's and she's kind of gone through that phase, ah which a lot of people have not done.
00:18:59
Speaker
um a lot of people who have been canceled on the internet, oh Shane Dawson, um i I truly don't believe he has fully, you know, apologized in a genuine way.
00:19:13
Speaker
And he kind of sweeps it all under the rug, right? Like he doesn't really talk about it. I feel like he really believes he was wronged by society and cancel culture got him and whatnot. Now he's doing great again. Like, you know, he's got his podcast and it's got it's got great views and whatnot. But i I truly believe that he's never kind of genuinely apologize for that past and all those things, which are lot worse, guys, than what Trisha has done.
00:19:44
Speaker
So if that just shows you the misogyny of it all, which we're going to get into because I really think a lot of this is rooted in misogyny because... You see a lot of men out there doing shitty things and then getting sponsored the next day or getting, you know, featured at VidCon, featured creator.
00:20:02
Speaker
um And like a lot of these these brands and stuff, they don't they don't call Trish. um And it doesn't really make any sense whatsoever to me. um And I, again, i think it's rooted in misogyny.
00:20:15
Speaker
um So, again, Trisha's gone through her controversies. We all know. um I mean, we can we can dig into them a little bit. Like, I mean, we're we're going to talk about, you know, when she came out as transgender and she didn't fully understand what it meant.
00:20:32
Speaker
um And that kind of hurt people in the queer community. um And, you know, it was one of those things that she said and and she got a lot of attention for it. And and I think... At the time, she was her mind was really rewarded by saying very controversial things.
00:20:46
Speaker
um And she also, though, I mean, hey, a lot of it's rooted in truth, too though, too, because she was having identity issues and she still talks about it to this day. she You know, that's ah the reason for the love of cosplaying is because she loves becoming a different person and she...
00:21:02
Speaker
sometimes truly doesn't know who she is. And I think, you know, now in this new era, which we love, she is learning who she is and she's, ah you know, becoming self-realized, which um is a great thing to see happen. And I think it's a great example for younger um generations to see that, um that you can come from a really dark place and be successful.
00:21:24
Speaker
um We've, yeah, so we've got the trans thing. We've got, um
00:21:31
Speaker
Asian Trish. um
00:21:36
Speaker
and We've got, you know, she said some racist things. um Let's just call it out how it is. um And um yeah, I think there's also been some like rumors out there spread by a group.
00:21:53
Speaker
um Also, I mean, some things are true, like I or or could be true. um But it's also like who? Those things are in the past. You know what I mean? She's grown.
00:22:05
Speaker
There's a lot of abuse allegations out there. um and think there's this crazy photo that goes around all the time with Moses with a bruise and people say, Trish hit Moses. um Does that mean we should hate her for life?
00:22:20
Speaker
You know, I guess that's up to you. If if you if you think that that's it, that's your final straw. Yeah. But I also want to note that like people can grow and get better and become healthier.
00:22:35
Speaker
And she went through a lot of manic episodes during that era of her life. So, I mean, should we excuse it? Probably not. But can we move on from it and let people learn and grow? i think that's the answer, you guys.
00:22:49
Speaker
I think the answer is to let people learn. Okay, so if we cancel everyone, we don't let them, you know, grow and become better people and be an example of of that, you know, change or that redemption.
00:23:04
Speaker
um Why would anyone who is, you know, involved in those toxic behaviors want to get better? Right? That's all I can think about with this all all the time. And it drives me nuts.
00:23:18
Speaker
I'm like, yeah, Trisha did some awful things. Why can't we just get over it? You guys are so misogynistic
00:23:27
Speaker
for letting that just permeate your brain. and And when you hear the words Trisha Paytas, all you could think of is she's an awful person. I'm like, y'all have missed the plot. Y'all are not thinking critically and y'all just easily put hate on a woman.
00:23:45
Speaker
That's misogyny right there. And I'm calling it out right now, right here on the Club Crave podcast. I just, I really, really feel like Trish has inspired a lot of people. And you guys, try to prove me wrong in the comments. Go for it. I'm ready for the hate. Because, listen, y'all, there is this group out there you may have heard of. I i really don't, I'm not going to say their name or or or the group that they go by.
00:24:11
Speaker
um Because I don't really want to put a spotlight on them in any way. Because what they're doing is not good and it's not... um not positive in any way and it's it's really actually sad these people are obsessed you guys um so when I first started Oscar Crave um the fan account for Trisha's co-host um i got added to like these groups and these group chats on Twitter
00:24:42
Speaker
from this hate group who literally got all these, their entire lives are like devoted to hating Trisha Paytas. Um, they watch, I swear they've got Trisha on their screens and they're consuming her content more than I do. And I run the fan account for Trish. So like,
00:25:01
Speaker
I just am appalled by it all. um And I really do not understand it. It's some kind of like weird phenomenon. I swear. i when I see their accounts and stuff and they're posting like every few hours and, and posting really awful things about Trish and like trying to convince her fans that she's just this awful person.
00:25:20
Speaker
And y'all ah it's not working on me. Listen, I, I know Trish, I know what she's been through. I've seen it all. um And y'all aren't convincing me.
00:25:31
Speaker
And I really do believe you guys are delusional. I truly believe that. And I've been dying to come on and just say that to these people because
00:25:44
Speaker
it confuses the hell out of me. Like,
00:25:48
Speaker
They're hate watching, right? I think these are people that may have been Trish fans at one point. Deep down, they still really love her. But there's some kind of misogyny in their heads. And I do think women can be misogynistic.
00:26:01
Speaker
I mean, we've seen that a lot in this world. um Calling out, you know, Republican women right there with that. Who think, you know, a woman can't be in charge. Not all Republican women, I guess.
00:26:14
Speaker
But like a lot of them. won't vote for a woman be just purely because she's a woman. You know what i mean? um So like it exists um and it's it's gross.
00:26:27
Speaker
and And I want to see all of these people's past. I want to see their records. You know what I mean? I want to see the people that they've you know, abuse in their lives or um the drugs that they've been on and the different addiction, their stuff isn't on the internet. We'll never get to see it.
00:26:46
Speaker
ah I think it's a form of projection. i think it's a form, again, I'm going to say it again, keep saying it, misogyny and um just pure evil hate. Like it's, it's pretty disgusting.
00:26:59
Speaker
And, um you know, at this point, i've I've blocked a lot of them, not all of them yet, because things keep popping up every once in a while. um But they ah they're doing the most trying to convince the world that Trisha is just the devil.
00:27:13
Speaker
And y'all, I will bring it to you now. I've met her. She's very lovely. um She's a she's a sweetheart. So maybe just try to get to know her. um Check out her new stuff. I guess they are checking out her new stuff. They watch her every day. So I don't know what to tell y'all.
00:27:28
Speaker
um I say just get off the internet, touch some grass, and maybe do some self-reflection and go to therapy. That's what I would say to those people.
Criticism and Misogyny in Society
00:27:44
Speaker
um But yeah, this hate group, y'all, they spread conspiracies. They spread rumors. um They attack her parenting. I've seen a lot of that. These people will go for the jugular.
00:27:57
Speaker
um They like will see that. Okay, so we all know Moses does a lot, right? we I mean, they're very open about that. Moses does a lot of cooking and he takes care of the kids while she's at tour and um she's pregnant. So like, you know, pregnant women, right?
00:28:13
Speaker
especially if they're on tour on the weekends are exhausted and need to probably relax because it's being pregnant. It takes a lot of energy out of you. And like these people will just say, you know, Moses does everything. She sits around. She's a adult baby or whatever the hell I'm like, y'all, y'all really have these gender roles in your head still too.
00:28:34
Speaker
This is not the 1950s. The woman should not have to do everything.
00:28:40
Speaker
um Sometimes families look different. That's a crazy concept, right? Oh my God. it It just really pisses me off. And what ah you know what a crazy concept to think that a man is doing more than a woman.
00:28:56
Speaker
Who cares if that's the case? That's the dynamic. That's how they want to do things. Maybe he's happy with that. Have you ever think of that? You ever think Moses is just happy being the caretaker and, and you know, ah it shows in everything he does and everything he in he says.
00:29:13
Speaker
He loves that life and he he works really hard and he supports Trish through everything. And and i I don't think it's our business to get into the relationship and and talk about Trish's and parenting. We do not see the full picture, you guys. we There's no way we can form an opinion on that because we we don't see that.
00:29:32
Speaker
Also, who are we to judge? you know i think, again, it's it's projection of some kind. I think these people are... I don't want to like stoop too low with this, but I think these people like are probably lower middle lower to middle class.
00:29:53
Speaker
And right now in this country, a lot of people are struggling. I will say that. um A lot of people um are struggling financially. um There's not good childcare out there.
00:30:03
Speaker
um You know, we I'm very like political and i I'm very passionate. um So like I will bring that up probably every episode, just different issues that I'm, I support and different things that I ah believe we should as a country, you know, give and provide and, and, ah and whatnot to, to people and treat them as humans.
00:30:25
Speaker
And I think there's a lot of people struggling out there. And I think this group specifically ah struggling hardcore and they see Trisha, you know, on top, right? She's doing all these amazing things. And then she comes home to a husband who is just so lovely and is a dream husband taking care of the family, feeding the kids, letting Trisha just rest.
00:30:47
Speaker
And they probably have a shitty husband at home. I'm just going to say it, who sits on his ass and they have to do everything. And they're projecting once again.
00:30:59
Speaker
and again, i don't like to give too much attention to this group, but I just had to get into it with this deep dive because it is pretty nasty. And I'm like, y'all, you act like Trisha is out there like a mass murderer or like, I don't know, like it's one of those true crime things like people are obsessed with. It's giving that.
00:31:19
Speaker
And y'all are like, again, missing the plot. Like y'all just admit you're a fan and lighten the up and just enjoy the content. Anyways, let me shut up about that. So next I want to talk about cancel culture a little bit and how it affects...
00:31:35
Speaker
um the people who are being canceled, but also just the viewers of that cancellation and and how that can cause people to um not want to grow. So yeah let me step back.
00:31:53
Speaker
I just, I think cancellation culture is a good thing, right? I think when somebody does something awful, they say something racist, they say something very offensive to a lot of people,
00:32:07
Speaker
I don't think their platform should maintain, you know, popularity or you shouldn't probably keep being, you know, getting paid the same. These sponsorships and whatnot should probably pull back.
00:32:20
Speaker
And, um you know, that's the, that should, you know, be how it is at any job. You should, you do something awful. You say something awful, you offend somebody, you got to take a step back. you you might get fired.
00:32:33
Speaker
um And a lot of these influencers, you know, they, they, do something and honestly the people kind of fired them and it's it's cool to see because it really ah to somebody who's awful and needs that wake up call it it can either one spiral you into being or spile them, i guess, into, um you know, being jaded and the world is so against me. Cancel culture sucks.
00:33:02
Speaker
um These, you know, snowflakes or whatever the hell they want to say. but Or it can be like, oh my God, like I really offended a lot of people with that. Like maybe I should like watch what I say next time when I talk about different types of people and minorities and whatnot.
00:33:19
Speaker
um And um so, yeah, I think, I think cancel culture is good, but but what I will say is there's kind of a lack of, there's a lack of empathy, i guess, and a lack of um just allowing people to
Cancel Culture vs. Personal Growth
00:33:37
Speaker
grow.
00:33:37
Speaker
You know, it it, it makes me sad when I see Trish, you know, like, not get sponsored.
00:33:49
Speaker
I know it's it's kind of become a joke at this point. um the The Domino's, right? The Domino's, yeah. um The Domino's sponsorship never happens for her. um is Yeah, it's become kind of a joke, but also, like...
00:34:04
Speaker
Things like that, right? Why why is Trish not sponsored by these big companies? Why is she not getting asked to go to VidCon and be a featured creator? And um and a lot of it has to do with people who just cannot let someone grow and be better.
00:34:22
Speaker
And I think Trish has done enough to prove that she has grown and she is better. um you know she has um She spreads a lot of joy with her shows.
00:34:34
Speaker
um She puts out a lot of content and makes a lot of people happy. And um she is outspoken about her journey and her redemption. And that inspires a lot of people, you guys. Do you guys realize how many people probably come up to Trish, and I've i've heard it myself, and say, you know, she saved my life, basically.
00:34:56
Speaker
um Or that she, you know, she inspired me to keep going and live another day. i think that alone is huge, you guys. Because... We need that, right? The world needs more of that. Can you not agree? don't think anyone can disagree with that, right?
00:35:13
Speaker
i just, it really frustrates me that, you know, you see somebody did something in the past and you're like, I'll never get over that. Really?
00:35:27
Speaker
What did Trisha do that's so unforgivable? There are unforgivable things that people can do, but Trisha has not done anything unforgivable, and that's and that's how I feel. And I think if you think that you cannot forgive her or support her,
00:35:42
Speaker
Or just quit hating on her at the very least. You're a little ah misogynistic and that's just a fact. And I know when you hear me say that, you're probably like kind of like pulling back. You're kind of like, this guy's nuts. What is he talking about?
00:35:59
Speaker
I'm not misogynistic. i'm I'm a woman myself, or I'm not misogynistic. I you know love women. I love my mom. But that does not that's not how it works, you guys.
00:36:11
Speaker
Misogyny is something deeply rooted within us that we cannot pinpoint. We grew up in a society where women... still to this day are not being paid the same as men and they don't get put in positions of power like men do.
00:36:27
Speaker
Um, and women, um, are looked at as being too emotional or, you know, um, They don't have the power to um be successful on their own. They need a man with them. And every movie we watched growing up, every TV show we grew up watching, um the woman always was being saved by a man, you know, the damsel in distress kind of thing. So it makes sense that our brains are wired that way, right? To like think that women are maybe not as smart or or they need help all the time and stuff like that. or
00:37:03
Speaker
um Or they're not as easy to forgive because we look at them a lot differently than we do men. For some reason, somebody like a Shane Dawson or a Matt Reif, you know, they can go through a big cancellation and then in a few years, they're right back on top.
00:37:22
Speaker
And, um yeah, that's that's what's happening right now in this world. And, you you know, that's in the internet sphere. But look at pop culture. um i mean, Chris Brown, first thing I can think of.
00:37:38
Speaker
um Literally... um
00:37:44
Speaker
a repeat offender, a repeat abuser, and somebody who's still in that behavior to this day, and people still love and support him. Kanye West, he's still on top. He's still got big hits, and he's gone absolutely nuts saying the most awful, vile things.
00:38:03
Speaker
So... Yeah, I just think people love to give men forgiveness, love to support men, love to see them grow and change. But when it comes to a woman doing it, it's not the same story. It's it's really not.
00:38:15
Speaker
um So, yeah, thanks for coming to my TED Talk.
Trisha and Moses: A Positive Partnership
00:38:20
Speaker
All right, now we're going to move into the Moses era. You guys, Moses Hackman came into Trish's life. And you know what? Actually, they didn't have a perfect relationship at the start.
00:38:33
Speaker
they um They both, I think, were pretty toxic um from what I've heard and seen on the internet. um Not understanding each other's boundaries or not knowing how to set boundaries with each other.
00:38:46
Speaker
and um But for some reason, both of them just kept coming back to each other. And that I think that's so sweet. And ah i um Moses continued to show up and continue to like support Trisha through all this.
00:39:04
Speaker
And she's never really been with anyone who has like continued to love and support her and not criticize her or trigger her in any way. He's really been a safe space for her. um And he's learned how to navigate someone like being in a relationship with somebody who has a mental illness.
00:39:21
Speaker
I think that is a very important thing to learn and or like an important thing to see happen online. You know what i mean? um Like if you yourself have a mental illness and you see that Trish and Moses made it.
00:39:36
Speaker
I think that's a beautiful lesson of like, okay, I can manage this mental illness and still, you know, end up marrying somebody, you know, even with the issues that I have in my head. um So yeah, it's beautiful. And I love that Moses, you know, he,
00:39:58
Speaker
At the end of the day, he didn't like fix Trish. He just helped create the safety for her to thrive and grow into herself and become more self-realized and all these things um and to be successful. Like she is at the absolute top of her game right now.
00:40:16
Speaker
um And a lot of that she says is because Moses is so supportive and is so willing to help out. um with the kids and with just different, like he's in the podcast. He's got, he's like the director of the set. He's, you know, you see him with the headphones and the messing with the lights and the cameras and whatnot. So he's a very supportive guy.
00:40:36
Speaker
And we love you, Moses. We love you so much for, um we love you, Moses. um We love you for supporting our queen and helping her get to the tippy top.
00:40:48
Speaker
And she's she is absolutely crushing um everything right now. So um but anyways, what I wanted to really say with that is they stuck it out.
00:40:58
Speaker
They showed that, um you know, you can both have toxic behaviors. And one of my favorite songs is Grow As We Go by Ben Platt. Me and my husband does one of our wedding songs.
00:41:09
Speaker
Yeah. i it's a song about like, you know, I think a lot of people think like you have to, it's, it's like the RuPaul quote, right? If you can't love yourself, you can't love anyone else.
00:41:22
Speaker
I kind of think that's, it's cute, but I don't know if it's fully true. I used to love that quote. And then now I'm like, actually, like I think you can not fully love yourself and love somebody and, you know, be in a relationship. And I get the sentiment, meaning like you kind of can't fill somebody else's cup until yours is full, which I get that. But I also don't think a relationship has to be you constantly giving to another person and and like giving all this, you know, energy, good energy to them. Like,
00:42:00
Speaker
i don't I guess what I'm trying to say is you don't have to be perfect to be in a relationship and you can work together to grow as a couple and as individuals. and you can you know It's like a symbiotic relationship where you continue to grow and you know um I'm thinking just about Moses being so helpful around the house and like helping Tricia like be able to do all these crazy things like the podcast and going on tour.
00:42:27
Speaker
and then i think about And then I think about Tricia um with Moses just like, you know, being a friend and someone to talk to. and ah that brings us to the Just Trish podcast era.
Oscar Gracie's Influence on Trisha's Podcast
00:42:40
Speaker
Y'all, what a lovely era we're in right now. It's just so great to have so much content and to have it from are our girl, our queen, queen of the internet, you guys. And she's like in the peak of her career right now. And I think it's just going to go up from here.
00:42:58
Speaker
um I really want to mention Oscar Gracie and how impactful his addition to Trisha's life in this era has impacted her and her career. I really, really believe that Oscar...
00:43:15
Speaker
has given her this safe space that she's never had before really to, just kind of talk, you know, about the hot topics and, uh, just be a friend to her and not judge her and not push her.
00:43:32
Speaker
I think, um, a lot of, uh, I guess a past cohost of hers really exploited her for her, ah mental illnesses. And, um, was just kind of an a-hole and still is to this day. He's crashing out all the time. He could call the hotline, the hot girl crash out hotline, um crash out. That would be great.
00:43:54
Speaker
um um But anyways, I just ah i just think Oscar has done a really good job about you know just just kind of being there as a friend and being a commentator.
00:44:05
Speaker
And you know I think a lot of that's rooted in his... beginning with the podcast because the podcast is called just trish right so i think he he said before that he was a little bit nervous and about being like on screen because it's you know just trish it's supposed to be just trish um but he pitched her he's like the back and forth i think people really like and you know if you want me to be that person i'm happy to and and she agreed and And people loved it from there. And it's been a hit ever since.
00:44:37
Speaker
um So, yeah, I think um he was nervous about starting that and like not saying too much or doing too much, you know. um But um he compliments her so well.
00:44:53
Speaker
And he sets up the topics, which I think is really helpful for Trish right now, especially since she's so busy. um She can kind of just show up and Oscar's gonna cue it up and then she can kind of react and talk about it.
00:45:06
Speaker
And that's what her viewers want. We just want to hear them yap all day long and talk them about um different people on the internet and talk about what's going on in her life. It's so fun to watch her manifest these new dreams and these new things.
00:45:19
Speaker
You know, from the past year, I mean, she's done SNL, she's done the Broadway show, she's done the Heirs of Trish tour. um and And somehow still maintained the podcast every week.
00:45:34
Speaker
How insane, you guys. Can you imagine flying every weekend to a new city, putting on a show three weeks? three times a week she usually did it like a friday saturday sunday and then literally monday morning fly back to home um and jump right into the podcast chair just go for it i mean i know you're just sitting there talking but like when i get home from a trip y'all i'm ready to be in bed in my pajamas sleeping and catching up on rest so i commend her for that especially doing that pregnant um
00:46:11
Speaker
So, yeah, I think the Just Trish podcast era is just my such it's like my favorite. I mean, it is my favorite. It's it's really where I entered into Trisha world and became, you know, a huge fan and started Oscar Crave, which oh, yeah, I've got my microphone here.
00:46:28
Speaker
um You may have ah you may recognize this from my boots on the ground interviews. um I'll put some on the screen, but I had so much fun during the Heirs of Trish tour. Yeah.
00:46:41
Speaker
going to the shows and talking with fans and doing interviews and, um... I don't know, you guys. It was just it was just a ball. in you know I went through a little post-show depression because yeah i mean I just always had another show to look forward to.
00:46:57
Speaker
um I went to, I guess overall the past year, I went to seven different Trish shows. um I went to five eras of Trish shows, which um I expected maybe to go to two, maybe three, and then somehow I ended up going to five. which um i My friends who know me know that that's not that shocking.
00:47:19
Speaker
um And then I went to the Broadway show, which one of the best days of my entire life. um I mean, I came home. I don't know if I'll ever post the video, but I came home and I was i was like making like a little like video of me.
00:47:37
Speaker
I was exhausted from my flight and just everything I'd been through the past couple days. And I just cried and cried because ah in ah in this video. And I'm talking about how am so thankful to be a part of this community and so thankful to you know the producer for inviting me and Trish Crave to come on the pink carpet and and and be there right in the front to take pictures of Trish to and to take video and to do interviews out there.
00:48:04
Speaker
um And then to like see all these big celebrities come through and um just be a part of that. It was just a Trisha fan's dream come true. It really was. It was amazing.
00:48:16
Speaker
Um, so I just, I just think about that all the time and how lucky I was to get to experience that. Anyways, the other show I went to was Trishmas and that was actually my very first time seeing Trish live.
00:48:28
Speaker
And I got to meet Oscar for the first time. I came up to him and i was just like, Hey, I'm Oscar Crave. And, uh, that was cool to meet him for the first time. And, um, yeah, so it's been a journey. It really has been. And I'm so lucky to have been kind of a part of the universe, you know, just a little little person out here doing my thing, posting different content.
00:48:48
Speaker
um Just trying to ah really what I'm doing with this, yeah, ah you could say I'm trying to build my own platform, build my own thing, but really, i'm so passionate about Trisha and what she's got going on as well as the podcast. And I love Oscar because I see a lot of myself in him.
00:49:08
Speaker
um He works for entertainment tonight and I'm, I'm a huge fan girl. So like the idea of going to red carpets and interviewing people. um I'm also a video editor. i went to school for video editing. So like the way he works for entertainment tonight and does all those um TikTok edits.
00:49:25
Speaker
um I think are really cool. um I would love to do something like that one day. um So yeah, anyways, I um i'm just really love this era, and I know a lot of you guys are locked in as well. We just cannot get enough of that podcast.
00:49:39
Speaker
And if you're a Patreon member, we're we've got the Patreon out. um we've got you know We've got a lot of content to consume throughout the week, and it still sometimes doesn't feel like enough. I'm like, okay, i want more. I want more.
00:49:51
Speaker
um So yeah, that this era is such a great era. And then one last little segment or One last little bit I want to talk about is the Camp Queen um i think She has become the camp queen of the internet,
Trisha Paytas: Camp Queen of the Internet
00:50:13
Speaker
right? Like, I think she always kind of has been, but now people are starting to catch on and like realize this, this is the queen.
00:50:21
Speaker
You know, I think before there was, there's questions about who the queen was. This is the queen. Trisha Paytas is the queen of the internet. And, uh, I will say that and defend that till I die.
00:50:32
Speaker
um, She gives, um you know, blonde, ditzy girl, bimbo energy. She gives drag queen. She gives, um you know, a little bit of non-binary tease with her different cosplays and the way she likes to play with gender.
00:50:51
Speaker
um She gives pop star energy all the way. that That's so her, pop star um And one thing with fan culture in this podcast being about the fandoms and whatnot, I truly believe that Trisha can make it to the very top, you know maybe three or four times bigger than she is right now by just fostering this fandom that she's got.
00:51:14
Speaker
um I think everyone should look at Taylor Swift's career and see how she got to the top. And I believe that... A lot of that has to do with the fandoms. I was a Swifty. I had a Swifty fan account.
00:51:28
Speaker
um And Taylor interacted with her fans online. And she had a official fan account called Taylor Nation, who basically posts updates, kind of like what I do with Oscar Grave, about...
00:51:45
Speaker
taylor as well as hypes people up and interacts with people and they're actually part of taylor's official team um so like taylor nation is actually the people that would like choose the fans to meet taylor you know back in the day taylor would would do that on her own but when she got so big and she had a lot going on she she hired on this team taylor nation to to kind of do that for her so they also went on tour and um and picked out fans in the crowd um to meet Taylor after the show. So, yeah, I just think there's ways to continue fostering this fandom and... um
00:52:25
Speaker
you know With the Taylor fandom, there were like many influencers within the Taylor fandom. like I met a guy at Trisha's show. His name's Dom.
00:52:36
Speaker
He is actually a huge Swifty fan account. um He's met Taylor... He goes to so many shows. He has the coolest cosplays.
00:52:48
Speaker
And when I saw him at the show, he like introduce or he like recognized me first. And he's like, oh my god, Oscar Crave. So great to meet you. And I'm like, what? what like I'm a huge fan of you. I have followed you for a very long time.
00:53:03
Speaker
So that was a surreal moment. um But when i the point I'm making is that like I think if she can create more influencers within her fandom...
00:53:13
Speaker
and ah And she, i mean, simply does that by just interacting with people and, um you know,
00:53:23
Speaker
that I mean, yeah, I guess that's it. She just needs to interact with more people, and um which she does quite a bit. So I don't know. I just think that like there needs to be more fan accounts out there trying to get her attention.
00:53:35
Speaker
ah Maybe there needs to be more like ban ah ways to interact with her fans. You know what i mean? At the shows, maybe she can start doing... at the shows maybe she can start like doing like you know, giveaways of meet and greets. Like you want to meet Trish after the show? Well, if you're wearing the coolest costume, if you're going the hardest in the crowd, you know, somebody from my team is going to come out and and find you and give you a little ticket that says you can meet Trish after the show. and um Things like that, just little things like that. and And Trish, if you're looking for somebody to run that, call me girl.
00:54:08
Speaker
I understand your fan base. um I know what they love. I know what they want. And I would love to help you with that. um I love fan culture. I love fandoms. And I love just like being a fangirl myself. I think I know like what we could do together.
00:54:26
Speaker
I'm really going in um to to foster that and then to take to that next level of fame. So call me Trish.
Conclusion: Allowing Growth for Trisha
00:54:37
Speaker
Y'all, um to conclude, Trisha is not the same person she was five years ago, three years ago, or even last year. Trisha is evolving. She's growing like humans do, like all of us do. we've We've all grown. We've all done things in our past that we regret, right?
00:54:56
Speaker
She's growing. She's healing. um She's still very chaotic, but in the most fabulous, self-aware way possible.
00:55:07
Speaker
And she's our viral internet queen. She's a star. She's so lovable in so many ways. And... um Yes, I think we should hold people accountable, but also we need to let people evolve as well.
00:55:21
Speaker
And that is my message here today for this this deep dive is just let people grow and learn and and evolve and become better people. um Because Trisha Paytas didn't just survive the internet, she reinvented it on her own sparkly unhinged terms.
00:55:36
Speaker
And before we go, um i just want to give another shout out to the Hot Girls Crashing Out Hotline. Call us and talk about anything. If you want to react to this episode, crash out about the episode, please do so and talk about it next week.
00:55:48
Speaker
um And yeah, leave a voicemail and um react to anything that's going on in your life or in pop culture, in society. um And we'll we'll be here. We'll be a listening ear for you.
00:56:02
Speaker
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00:56:17
Speaker
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00:56:44
Speaker
I love these damn labubus.