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Nos Audietis, Episode 267: Back where we belong
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Well, it sure is nice to be here again. The Sounders are back in the MLS Cup final, looking to become the fourth team in MLS history to repeat as champions. They also have a chance to win their seventh MLS trophy, which would be the third most of all time and more than any non-Canadian team since they entered the league.
As you surely know, they’ll be facing the same Toronto FC they beat last time. Yes, TFC is a better version than last year’s, but so are the Sounders. Richard Farley joins us to discuss the game as well as answer some listener questions.
This week's music: "Star Blazers Theme", Perry Como - "Seattle", RVIVR - “The Tide”, Woody Guthrie - "Roll On Columbia"
Thanks to James Woollard, Sounders Public Address Announcer, for doing our sponsor reads. You can follow him on Twitter at @BritVoxUS - if you're looking for a British Voice to advertise your business or non-profit, please reach out to him.
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Sponsorship + Episode Intro
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The bluest skies you've ever seen are in Seattle And the hills the greenest green in Seattle Like a beautiful child growing up
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Welcome back to another edition of Nos Adietes, sponsored by Fullpool Wines, Quinn & Acupuncture, Verity Credit Union, Designers Marble, and our broadcast partner Bootstrapper Studios. This is episode 267, and we're recording on Wednesday, December 6th. I am your host, Jeremiah O'Shan, and I'm joined by my co-host, Aaron Campo, and our engineer, Lickett. Also joining us on the show is Richard Farley, who we haven't talked to in at least...
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the last time we recorded. Well, it sure is nice to be here again.
Sounders' Championship Ambitions
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The Sounders are back in the MLS Cup final, looking to become the fourth team in MLS history to repeat its champions. They also have a chance to win their seventh MLS trophy, which would be the third most of all of all time and more than any non-Canadian team since they entered the league. As you surely know, they'll be facing the same Toronto FC they beat last time. Yes, TFC is a better version than last year's, but sort of the Sounders. So we'll just start there. Aaron, how do you feel about this matchup?
00:02:19
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So I feel pretty good about it. It's weird because it sounds weird saying this, right? So I still think Toronto is probably gonna win. I think that, you know, they have to be the favorite. I think that they're a slightly better team. And I think that the fact that they're playing at home, you know, definitely gives them a pretty sizable edge.
00:02:38
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I think it's going to be very close game. I certainly don't think the Sounders are going to get blown out. But I mean, if you know, if I had to put money on it, it would probably be on Toronto. But with that being said, I feel a lot better about the matchup this year than I did going into last season.
00:02:54
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And so I think that that shows that you don't have to be the favorite to feel pretty good going into the game. And if the Sounders end up losing to what is arguably the best team in MLS history in a close game, I feel pretty good about that. But I think the Sounders have a really good chance. I think more than a puncher's chance. I think that they have some matchup advantages.
00:03:21
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The biggest concern with TFC is TFC just comes out and blows you away offensively, and I just don't see the Sounders letting that happen against anybody with this defense, frankly. So yeah, I think it's gonna be close. I think it's gonna come down to good or bad breaks. And if you can go into a game on the road against the team as good as TFC and feel like you've got a pretty good shot, then that's a pretty reasonable place to be.
Psychological Edge: Seattle vs. Toronto
00:03:46
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So before I bring Richard in here, I'll throw my two cents in. I actually think, I agree with a lot of what you said, but I do think that the Sounders have a decided mental edge in this. And I don't know how much that's all worth, but what I do think is that if one team is more likely to succumb to
00:04:04
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pressures. I think it's probably Toronto FC. I think you can see that in their comments that they've been making this week. They've made this very much about like a revenge story and that as it like that it's somehow like a different map they get it there's something more going on here for them than I think you normally look at an MLS Cup final and to me that suggests that they are maybe inside their own heads a little bit
00:04:29
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to steal a line from Aaron, and I will give you full credit for this, is the Sounders seem to have taken up permanent residence inside Toronto FC's psyche. And I mean, I just think if the Sounders score, you know, jump out to a lead, I could see the Sounders winning this game 2-0. You know, that's not to say that I am underestimating Toronto FC's talent. I think that they probably
00:04:55
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are the more talented team but I also think that there's a compelling case to be made that you know sure if you look at the whole season it's undeniable that Toronto FC has had a better season overall but if you just look at recent forum and I don't mean recent forum like the last couple
00:05:12
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you know, the playoffs. I'm talking about, you know, you can go all the way back to mid-summer. And the two teams are pretty much even. Basically, since Kelvin Leardom came into the league, the Sounders are basically playing at the same level as Toronto FC is.
00:05:29
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So I feel like the Sounders on talent are pretty close. And I think that they probably get, you know, in terms of like, who do I honestly, I honestly think the Sounders are going to win this one. That said, Richard, do you want to bring us back to earth on these predictions?
00:05:47
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Not really.
Toronto FC's Strengths & Changes
00:05:49
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I think that Toronto is a better team than last year that is playing worse than they were last year going into this game. Their attack was legitimately intimidating going into last year's MLS Cup Final with the performances they had against New York City and Montreal. Maybe their defense wasn't so convincing against Montreal last year, but
00:06:06
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The reasons that you would be scared about facing Toronto FC were certainly informed going into last year's final. I think Seattle is it's hard to gauge how good Seattle actually is right now, because I think that both Vancouver and Houston were pretty weak opponents. That being said, they were in control the whole time in both of those series and did pretty much exactly what you would want a team to do against those teams. And then talent wise, I think Seattle is
00:06:32
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much better mostly because I think that they're a much deeper and a much more diverse team and I think it's entirely possible if we end up in a game that is close beyond 90 minutes on Saturday that that diversity on Brian Schmetzer's bench could be a really big deciding factor
Key Players' Impact on MLS Cup
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In addition to the fact that the diversity that he's going to call upon are people that have generally played a decent amount this year, even with Jordan Morris and Osvaldo Alonso missing a lot of time recently, these are not people that you're worried about how they fit in the team or what level that they're going to give you when they're healthy.
00:07:11
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having people like Victor Rodriguez or, you know, if he comes off the bench or knew who comes off the bench, these are all people that recently have made major contributions. And I find those potential changes much more compelling than what Greg Vanney can offer through a choice in Ricketts or a mondo Cooper. So I think that I think that recent form matters a lot at the same time. I still think Toronto is a slight favorite, and I would very, very, very greatly prefer not to have to make a prediction on this game.
00:07:44
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Fair enough. I won't make you make a prediction in this game. But what do you think that the deciding factor is going to be? I mean, do you see is there a matchup that you see as being maybe particularly indicative of the way this game goes? Is there things that you're going to be looking for in terms of of who maybe has the edge once this game gets started?
00:08:06
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I mean, for me, I think if, if Josie Altidore and Michael Bradley have good games, then Toronto is going to be very difficult to stop. I don't think it's going to be something tactical, really. Maybe it could be, but I think if all things being equal and the tactics, both teams execute their plans, Josie Altidore is just a player that when he's at his best is very difficult for anybody to stop. Even a team that has.
00:08:26
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Chad Marshall and Roman Torres. And I would say the same thing about Michael Bradley. When he's at his best, it's very difficult to have control over the midfield when he's able to, when he's reading your plays correctly, when he's making all the right judgments, et cetera. So that's the thing that I would be worried about. If I were a Seattle fan and in the first 30 minutes of the game, Josie Alastor and Michael Bradley look like, you know,
00:08:47
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All caps, Josie, Althador, Michael Bradley. I think that Toronto problems should be- Aaron, do you have anything that you're going to be looking for early on in this game that maybe gives you, that will tell you what you should be maybe looking for to the rest of the way?
00:08:59
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I think that Josie Altidore's health is the big one. If Josie Altidore comes out and he's pretty clearly not at full strength, that gives the Sounders a pretty huge advantage. He's still a dangerous player as we saw in the second leg against Columbus where he scored after not being able to walk for the previous 10 minutes. He's dangerous even when he's hurt.
00:09:23
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if he's not at full strength, I feel a lot better about it. And I think that the bigger thing is that, you know, the sounders, if they're going to have a decent chance in this game, I think have to sort of
00:09:38
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They can't play on the back foot. They can't play defensively. They can't let Toronto get off to a quick start. They have to control some possession. I don't think that they have to dominate possession, but they can't get into a situation where they've got 40% of the ball early on. And so I think that those are going to be the two key things. If Seattle can come out and keep things settled and prevent Toronto from getting out to a quick start, then I'd feel pretty confident.
Sounders' Tactical Evolution
00:10:05
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if it's the opposite where Toronto comes out and maybe scores early or really get the sounders pinned back sort of from the outset and force them to make adjustments, then I think that that's a sign that maybe Toronto wasn't as affected mentally as it kind of has seemed like.
00:10:25
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So I want to hit rewind a little bit and talk about the Dino series, a series that I think we might be able to say is the most impressive two game series the Sounders have ever played, in that they took the lead early on,
00:10:44
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They dominated the first leg, even if they only came out with a 2-0 advantage. In the second game, they got their third goal fairly early and were cruising. And they weren't satisfied to just sit on that lead. They actually pressed the action a little bit. They got two more goals. They ended up winning the Series 5-0, easily their biggest aggregate goal victory of all time. But you said some stuff on Twitter that I thought was kind of interesting.
00:11:14
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It was about this team performing in a way that we had long hoped to see the sounders perform, where they took a lead, they held it, and they kept applying pressure. Hopefully you know what I'm talking about, but I would love for you to expand on that a little bit, Aaron. Yeah.
00:11:37
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Yeah, so I think that what we've seen in the past in playoffs from the Sounders, last year included, is that they grind out wins in the playoffs. They grind out wins in big games. And that's a reasonable approach. There's nothing necessarily wrong with that. But even when they went into a series with
00:11:56
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you know, what seemed like a clear talent advantage. And I think this was probably more pronounced, you know, when he was still here, but but I think we saw it last year as well. You knew that that the two leg series were, you know, going to be kind of a grind.
00:12:13
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And against Houston, they weren't at all. I mean, they came out attacking on the road because they were the much better team. They had the talent. There was no need to sort of sit back and just get through zeros. And they came out on the front foot, and then they kind of killed off the game with possession.
00:12:32
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And a lot of it's talent, right? That's the key thing is that this is clearly the most talented team the Sounders have ever had.
00:12:43
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the 2014 team who won the Supporter's Shield and were this attacking dynamo that I think everybody remembers fondly as being the best team and most talented team the Sounders have ever had. I think that this Sounders team takes him behind the woodshed, frankly.
00:13:02
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Um, and so, you know, they have that advantage. They have such a good defense that they don't have to sit back to feel pretty confident that they're going to keep, you know, keep the opposition's score down. Um, they haven't really, when they've had their defensive full strength this year, they haven't, I don't remember the last time they gave up more than a goal in a game or more than two goals in a game, I guess, or I saw was the last two goal game. Um, but.
00:13:29
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, so they don't have to sit back to feel like they're going to be able to keep the score low. And depending on what the game calls for, they can kill off games with possession. They can just come out full throttle and keep the other team pinned back. That's kind of what they did against Houston, who was so dangerous on the counter. But Houston had to throw so many players behind the ball that the counter attacking attempts that they had were few and far between.
00:13:54
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And the Sounders are just so multifaceted in the way they can do things. Even without true speedsters, they can still be a really dangerous team on the counter attack. They can sit on leads. They can bunker in and weather storms if they need to. And it seems like before,
00:14:11
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if the game didn't unfold in the right way, the sounders were kind of screwed. And I don't feel that way anymore. And I think that, again, talent's a huge part of it. But I think the mentality of this team is clearly much, much different than it has been in the past. And that they're going to be able to deal with, they're going to be able to roll with the punches. They're going to be able to adapt to the game state. And I think that's huge, especially against a team like Toronto that can beat you in so many ways.
00:14:39
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So how do you think that informs this game, Richard? The Seattle's performance against Houston informs this game?
00:14:47
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Yeah, does it inform it at all? I mean, does it does or their men or even broadly speaking, the mentality that I mean, the mentality in the way that they executed the task against Houston, I think that definitely should inform people as to how they will approach the Toronto game or their level of composure that they're going to bring into Saturday's game. I think the performance against Vancouver should also as well as the experience that they garnered during last year's run. But I keep going back to I just Vancouver, Carl Robinson was
00:15:13
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one of the worst tactical plans I've ever seen in a playoff series. And then Houston was just so outgunned that I actually think that there are a couple other Seattle playoff series results that I've been more impressed by. I mean, definitely not the final score, but the fact that Houston was a counter-attacking team, they were down to 10 men fairly early in the first leg.
00:15:32
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to me, the series is just weird. And I'm not drawing too much from it. I think Houston drastically overachieved this year. So I'm not quite as impressed by the final score. But at the same time, I don't think that really matters. I mean, you just look at the Seattle team, you look at their talent, you look at their consistency, you look at their approach. And it really wouldn't have mattered if they had to go to penalty kicks in the second leg of the Western Conference Finals. I think it would have been
00:15:59
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they would approach this coming game the same way. And I think people should look at them the same way.
Sounders' Defensive Prowess
00:16:05
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You know, one of the things I think that is a big difference going into this into the series as opposed or going into this game as opposed to last year is just the quality of the defense that the Sounders have put together. Now, I think if you look at the team going into last year's and less cut final, the defense was probably their strong suit. They'd only given up three goals during the playoffs.
00:16:29
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which now seems like a really high number compared to what they've done in this series, which is they haven't given up a single goal in these whole playoffs. They're the first team in MLS history to go at least 360 minutes, go into the final on a 360 minute
00:16:46
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shutout streak. And they now have, this is a crazy stat to me, 12 shutouts in their last 16 games, or I'm sorry, they have 12 shutouts in Chad Marshall's last 16 games, which happens to coincide with Kelvin Lyrdom's first start.
00:17:03
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And if you go even farther back, they have 16 shutouts in the past 24 games that Chad Marshall started. Chad Marshall somehow has managed to become this, at least to me, this wholly underrated player, despite the fact that he'll probably go down in history as the greatest MLS defender of all time. I don't know if that's fair or not, but
00:17:29
Speaker
This defense that the Sounders have put together, especially since Kelvin Lirdham's signing, is quite unlike anything that I've seen certainly the Sounders have. But I'm not sure that there's been a lot of defenses in MLS history, frankly, that have put together a more impressive run than what we've seen the Sounders do over the last several months.
00:17:53
Speaker
Yeah, Sporting KC might put up similar numbers defensively and put up, you know, gaudy shutout numbers and squirreless streaks, but their entire tactical approach is designed to let that happen. Like, they're not going out and scoring goals while they're doing that as well. But Aaron, look at the possession numbers and Aaron, look at the shot numbers. What are you talking about, man? Then I would have to watch them and I don't want to do that.
00:18:16
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No, I mean, this defense, I mean, I do think that's an interesting comparison is that, you know, Sporting Kansas City, like Richard said, takes a lot of shots, they have a lot of possession, but they don't ever seem to be putting in the same kind of attacking, they've never been a high scoring team despite all their shots and all their possession. Whereas the Sounders at times are frankly overwhelming offensively.
00:18:46
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I think one thing you've mentioned him a couple of times, Kelvin Leardham, and I think it's just such an ideal acquisition for this game because once you get beyond Josie Altador and Sebastian Givinko,
00:18:57
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Toronto's next biggest scoring thread over the last two years has been Justin Morrow. And I believe he has something like 13 or 14 goals over the last two years. And when you watch Toronto play, you can see why he's become very adept from that left wing back position of becoming the fourth attacker into play. And because of the where he's coming from, he's often forgotten. And a lot of his goals are scored from very, very close range because people just forget about him and they aren't able to mark him until he's in too dangerous of a spot.
00:19:25
Speaker
So having somebody with Kelvin Lyrdom's experience in that place, I think it's going to be a potentially a huge, huge difference. And if you get to the point where Toronto has one less person that you're relying on for goals, I mean, it goes without saying that that's a great thing.
00:19:42
Speaker
I mean, Morrow is a significant source of goals. It's not just you're marking out this, you know, this quirky thing that they have. Their system is dependent on their wide players contributing to the attack. And if Lyrdom can be as good as he has been every minute since he's arrived in Seattle, that is a significant difference than last year.
00:20:03
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No, I totally agree. And I think that Lyrdom's ability to basically turn on and turn off what kind of player he's been. Like he's a player who is absolutely defense first when that's what is required. And yet whenever he gets forward, he shows a lot of ability. And if you look at one area that the Sounders have improved, Kelvin Lyrdom versus Tyrone Mears. I mean, that's not even
00:20:28
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I mean, that's not even remotely a fair comparison, right? I mean, Lyrdom is to me, you know, if Lyrdom had started this year, I think he would be in the running for best 11 if we were actually selecting a right back and a left back. Oh, God. It was hard coming up with a right back for my best 11 because I always vote a dedicated right back and a dedicated left back as well as a dedicated defensive midfielder because while those players
00:20:55
Speaker
You know, most people saw on the best 11, most people don't vote for those players. Every team in the league plays with those players. It's insane to me that the best 11 doesn't include those players. What do we end up with? What do we end up with
Player Recognition in MLS Best 11
00:21:05
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this year? A three, a three, three, four, I think is what we ended up with. I think it's better thought of as like a three, zero, one, two, three or something like that. And it's just.
00:21:19
Speaker
It's depressing to me too. I know that not everyone can watch every game and I totally get that, but it's just so obvious how many people are just like, let's see, how many assists and goals do these guys have in every position or whatever? And it's just so transparently.
00:21:36
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blame that, like I liked Opta's or was it Opta or was it who scored? Who scored is the one that dares. Yeah and it's like an actual functional lineup you know and I don't necessarily agree with the choices but it's at least you know could like play a game.
00:21:54
Speaker
yeah i mean to me if every team is playing with certain players it's insane not to have a league best 11 that doesn't acknowledge that nobody is going to play without a left back and a right back and it's not like you can just slide people directly into those positions to me excluding those players is just slightly more insane than excluding a goalkeeper which nobody of course would ever do right but
00:22:16
Speaker
These are positions that every single team plays with. You wouldn't think if there was a huge run on midfield play in the league that you would ever exclude a striker from the team. And I just don't see why people would do that. So as a result, I think people like Kelvin Lirim and Justin Morrow get somewhat underappreciated because even though we can have this podcast, we can acknowledge both of those are great players, and maybe those are players that would deserve to be the two best 11 fullbacks next year in the best 11 team. That, of course, is never going to happen.
00:22:44
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Although I think this year Justin Moro actually got in as one of the three defenders. Yeah, it wasn't him, Opara, and who was the other one? Which is also ridiculous. He got in because he scored eight goals. It's even more annoying.
00:22:57
Speaker
Yeah, well, Austin, that's amazing. But he, I mean, look, if Justin Morrow scores two goals this year, he's not getting into the team. He got in, he got in because he's an attacker. I bet I'm looking at this best 11. I'm like, actually kind of shocked. These are, it's essentially seven forwards and three, seven forwards, a two-way defender and two center backs. Diego Valerio would have to play as an eight on that team.
Podcast Wrap-Up & Future Plans
00:23:27
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Right. I think, like, to me, it's even more annoying when they pick two centerbacks and one fullback. Either three. Like, if you're going to leave out fullbacks, leave out fullbacks. Because at least you're making the argument that fullbacks are inherently less valuable. OK, fine. At least there's an argument there if I don't agree with it. But then to include a fullback and it's a fullback that you're voting for attacking purposes, which there's nothing against that. Fullbacks are generally very attacking positions nowadays, but it does show the inconsistency. And I'm sorry, I'm going to mute myself now. I'm getting upset.
00:23:57
Speaker
Well, that's probably a good place to call this. I'm going to be heading out to Toronto, thankfully, for a second straight year. And so hopefully we'll be able to do some fun stuff out. I'm going to do my best to maybe even do a nosadiette di periscope from
00:24:18
Speaker
from the road, we'll see how that actually goes. But otherwise I would look for, look at Sandra Hart's Facebook page, we'll probably do something live there. Hopefully you're following along on Sandra Hart to read everything that I have to write about this, as well as a lot of other good stuff that Sandra Hart writers are putting together. But we're gonna come back, we're gonna take some questions from you all. You're listening to no study at this.
00:24:44
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00:26:32
Speaker
Sure thing. Carl Nelson asks, predicted lineup for the good guys. So I think that we're going to see an aggressive lineup from Brian Schmetzer. My suspicion is Jovan Jones is going to move back to left back. And then otherwise, it's going to be pretty straightforward with Victor Rodriguez coming in as the left mid.
00:26:55
Speaker
essentially for for Jones and Newhoo dropping off and then I think otherwise it's going to be the same lineup that we like the lineup that you would expect which is Jones, Marshall, Torres, Lirdham, Svensson and Roldan, Rodriguez, Dempsey, Ledero and growing up
00:27:15
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And I'll add that my initial thought was that New Who would probably start just because he's been starting seemingly. I don't even remember the last game he didn't start offhand. But if you look at the lineups, the choices that every time Brian Trencher has had a choice to make, whether it was at home or whether it was away, it seems like he goes with the more aggressive
00:27:40
Speaker
choice. And, you know, that's included, you know, playing Nico Ledero essentially as either a second, either going only with one defensive midfielder like he did against Houston in the second leg, or dropping Nico back a little bit like he did in the second leg against Vancouver. You know, he continuously goes with the more aggressive choice. And so I would be a little surprised in a game like this for him to kind of go away from that.
00:28:06
Speaker
Have you guys heard anything coming out of practice this week that makes you think that Brian is leaning in that direction? Without divulging too much, I will say that I was at training today. Well, thanks. That definitely was my question.
00:28:26
Speaker
Well, I was at training today and I think that I'm comfortable with my prediction. Okay. Um, I would say the only thing that, the only thing that gets me pause is the fact that, um, how do you factor in not only like the possibility, but the strong possibility of having to plan for 120 minutes as opposed to 90. And then also knowing that at some point before that 90, you probably have a change in Jordan Morris that is a,
00:28:53
Speaker
could potentially be a significant change on where you're planning on using him exactly. So I think that you're right. But I also think that having that four sub for overtime makes that a little easier choice. Because I assume what you're implying is that Victor Rodriguez probably isn't 120 minutes fit. And I think you're probably right that Victor Rodriguez is not 120 minutes fit. And so I don't know, maybe you want him, you would rather have him available for the last
00:29:23
Speaker
you know, for overtime and potentially penalties if it came to that. But I don't know, I don't, I think that the sounders probably are taking the attitude that, you know, if you get a goal or two, if you can get a goal or two early, that you'd rather not have to worry about all that stuff.
00:29:38
Speaker
I'm more approaching it from the point of view of what team do you want on the field during those last 30 minutes of extra time and say 15 minutes of regulation time. What 11 players do you want when the match has to be settled? And it's entirely possible that you want
00:29:55
Speaker
the new who and Jovan flank out there at that time. Those are two players as people might be tiring are people that maybe you want on the flank out there. It's entirely possible the team has another approach to that. I think most likely, given what we've seen from Brian Schmetzer in your half, he'll probably just play it very straightforward and start what he thinks is his best 11 and then adapt to the game as it goes on. But I can completely see. Yeah, I mean, I
00:30:19
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either Brian or different coaching staff approaching it differently. I think that there's a valid, I mean, don't get me wrong. I think there's a very valid argument to be made for Jones and new who's starting. And I think that it's, it's a distinct possibility. And as you know, earlier this week, I was kind of convinced that that's what they were going to go with.
00:30:35
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But the more I heard them talk, the more I am getting a sense for their mentality going into this game. I just think that if you look at Rodriguez's performances, most of his best games have come when, or virtually all of his best games have come when he's starting. And I think it implies that he's a guy that excels when
00:31:00
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with more opportunities as opposed to with the one big chance, I guess, is maybe the way of putting it. Keep it on the same subject. T.Steej asks, what are some of the one-on-one matchups you are looking forward to seeing? I mean, I think I like the idea of just, I don't know about one-on-one,
00:31:23
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match ups. I don't know how we how often that really ever comes. It plays out that way. I mean, I am kind of interested to see how roll dawn and Bradley match up. I don't think they're necessarily you're gonna I don't know if they would necessarily call that a one on one. A one on one.
00:31:39
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kind of battle, but I do think that it's potentially like a passing of the torch for, you know, one, the best American midfielder for the last, you know, cycle or two, potentially to the guy who's the best American midfielder for the upcoming cycles. I think the matchup between Torres and Altidore probably is gonna be a lot of fun to watch. Probably those are the two that I'm most interested in.
00:32:04
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And this also dovetails into Clint Dempsey actually being in this game this year. You know, one of the things that maybe tactically is the most valuable thing about Josie Altidore is that he is not just a typical nine, number nine. In fact, a lot of the chances that he creates is being able to hold up the ball in wide areas. And Sebastian Giovenco really testing a defense's organization to make sure that they're not giving him spaces in which he can run into and be dangerous.
00:32:27
Speaker
And I think that dovetails into Clint Dempsey because almost any time we see the Sounders coming out of their own end, they're playing through Dempsey. And this year they have somebody in Will Bruin who can actually play deeper than Dempsey at times, run along the line at times, and really force some of the similar decisions amongst that Toronto central defense trio. So I think how Toronto deals with that, it's not a one-on-one matchup, but how they deal with the fact that they have to maintain their organization while the ball is being played through Dempsey.
00:32:54
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And people like Will Bruin are going to make different kinds of runs. I think that's both very interesting and kind of a mirror of what both defenses are going to have to go through in this game. And then keep in law on the same lines. SSU underscore Richard M asks, what match-ups, quote unquote, match-ups are decidedly in Seattle's favor?
00:33:16
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I mean, I think I like the sounder's full backs versus the, the, uh, wide players of, of Toronto. I think Lyrdom is, is very capable of canceling out Moro. And I don't really see how Betashore handles Jones. Uh, BritVox, USS, or USS, uh, asks, what's the injury update on Altidore? Is he a tough kid or a struggling old man?
00:33:47
Speaker
I mean, I fully expect him to play, but I don't think his health situation seems to be all that different than Ozzie Alonzo's was last year going into this game, which is, it sounds like he hasn't been training as much as they probably would like, but they also feel like you don't necessarily need Josie Altidore to be training at full force in the last week of the season. Um, but I fully expect him to be available.
00:34:13
Speaker
Okay, moving on. A Miller Time asks, do we see Jmo in the final? It seems like today, Schmetter was asked about it and he didn't say unequivocally yes, but it sounds like the sounders intend to get him into the game.
00:34:34
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, it seems pretty obvious that he's going to play a little bit, right? And I think we pretty much know how it's going to shake out. He's going to come in towards the end of regulation, really. I mean, unless there's some kind of new information regarding his fitness and his status, I don't see that not happening. Okay. Tom Vera asks, what's your kickoff temperature prediction?
00:35:00
Speaker
God, I just hope that it's it's above freezing. But what's the late list? What's the this this morning? I think it was in the 30s and chances of snow. Jeez. I just want to say that I think there should be in Jeremiah disagrees with this, but I think it wouldn't be the worst thing if there was a rule in place that said the final can't be hosted at the same place two years in a row.
00:35:27
Speaker
I think if you're going to allow for home field advantage in the MLS Cup, I think you have to just let it be wherever it's going to be. That said, I would much rather see us go back to a neutral site. I think there's a lot of advantages to neutral sites.
00:35:50
Speaker
Well, I think the thing is that they really didn't do this to give people home field advantage. Obviously, there was a neutral site MLS Cup Final for most of these existence. They did this because the neutral site final sucked because it wouldn't have any atmosphere. So to me, that still remains the same goal.
00:36:07
Speaker
Yeah, it looks like the forecast right now is zero degrees Celsius, which is 32 degrees for you scientists out there. And there is a chance of snow on Saturday. So there you go. By afternoon, it says there is light snow is what they're predicting. This is going to be interesting.
00:36:37
Speaker
So then leading into that, drone637 basically is asking, how would snow affect the game? Would it be a good or bad thing? I mean, it's light snow, which to me means there probably isn't going to be accumulating snow. So I don't know that it's necessarily going to have much of an effect. I don't know. Does anyone else have thoughts on that?
00:37:02
Speaker
Snow is fun, but soccer, I mean, every once in a while, but soccer, a title game of the snow. Come on. I mean, like once we get rid of the idea that, you know, it's different and it's kind of cool for a little bit, the game will suck. And anybody that wants the game to suck for the sake of weather, I just can't get with that. Yeah, if it's built up on the field, it's it would be worse than I mean, not worse, but almost as bad as it was last year where the field was frozen. I mean, the good news is that there's no snow predicted
00:37:32
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the day before. And so if it just starts snowing that day, my hope would be that they are capable of keeping it from accumulating. But yeah, if it accumulates, it's gonna suck. There's just no way around it.
00:37:49
Speaker
I mean, Toronto has like the league's most advanced under field heating system, too. So if they just crank that up, hopefully none of the snow will actually settle. But I mean, I guess part of me actually wants there to be a ridiculous amount of snow and the game to be terrible. Just so one, my whole thing about not hosting the game at the same place.
00:38:06
Speaker
two consecutive years makes more sense because, of course, I'm looking at this through my personal lens. But also, I'm I am one of those people that think that the calendar should be shifted. And I would much prefer MLS's Cup final happening in in May than in December.
00:38:24
Speaker
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00:39:07
Speaker
Speaking of the FIFA calendar, Walter Cito was just asking the same question. Would a snowy December help just by switching to a FIFA calendar?
00:39:17
Speaker
So I guess I'll go ahead and pick up on that since I brought it up last segment. I mean, I don't think it would fully justify switching it, but it certainly would help. I mean, you don't want your biggest games in the most inclement conditions. But I think the one argument I want to address about people who don't want to make the switch is that people rightly point out that the league would probably have to take a winter break or only schedule games in half of the league cities during
00:39:41
Speaker
the height of the worst weather seasons. And the fact is the middle of the MLS season sucks anyway. It's the point where everybody's beginning of the season interest has waned. You're in the middle of the summer where you have games where a lot of the talent is away at Gold Cup and Copa America or your one or two teams per your deal to European championship loss.
00:40:02
Speaker
You have teams scheduling friendlies against other clubs that are coming here for preseason. And just in general, it's that period between preseason excitement in the spring and then playoff excitement in the fall. It's just they're the worst games of the season. So the idea of taking a break in the middle of the season for four to six weeks, to me, I just don't see a huge opportunity cost. And if the benefit is then getting your best and most interesting games in more reliable part of the calendar and away from
00:40:31
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college football playoffs and football playoffs, I think it's worth it.
00:40:37
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Yeah, I am, my knee-jerk reaction is always, frankly, to reject the idea of a need to go to a FIFA calendar. I don't think that MLS has to be on a FIFA calendar, or it hasn't in the past, but what we're finding, like we see now, I wanna say there's gonna be something like 40 players from MLS, or there was 40 players that competed for,
00:41:03
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World Cup squads during the most recent round of qualifying that actually qualified for this upcoming World Cup. And that's a lot of players. That's a lot of really good players. And that's not even including... Well, most were Americans, right, Jeremiah? Oh, that's right. Right, exactly. Well, but that's... I mean, that kind of underscores my point, which is... But what about the... Oh, that's right.
00:41:24
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The point being that MLS is becoming increasingly reliant upon World Cup quality players that aren't necessarily American, that clearly aren't Canadian. So it's becoming, to me, that's the bigger driving force, rather than anything about how bad the weather may be.
00:41:45
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for this game. I don't know the weather in this game makes that compelling of a case by itself. But when you start getting into the reality that MLS is growing in stature, that it's attracting more players that are on World Cup squads, that are on international squads, and that the sounders, for instance, are now at a point where they basically can't field a realistic team
00:42:12
Speaker
When you know when there when drink international breaks because they have nine ten eleven players that are going out to. On international duty and when teams are losing that many players. You know you have to really consider how smart it is to be playing games during the busiest part of the international calendar.
00:42:31
Speaker
Yeah, and I tend to agree with all of that. But I do think that, OK, maybe this one game doesn't make a compelling case for moving to an international calendar. But this game last season, that sporting KC RSL game where it was five degrees, I mean, it's not if the galaxy are hosting or whoever finds it's not going to be a problem. But for huge chunks of the country,
00:43:01
Speaker
It's it's a huge factor and I don't think that that alone is enough to consider moving but in concert with all the other things that you mentioned Yeah, I mean I think that I think it's something they should consider and if they're if they don't even if they don't move to the full FIFA calendar having some way to have it impact the season less and get out of playing the final, you know in
00:43:28
Speaker
In the coolest months of the year would would be pretty beneficial even if it's not exactly the same calendar that they use in Germany
00:43:34
Speaker
And I will add that one of the things that I don't know that we've seen a good solution for, though, is that the MLS season currently stretches essentially, what, 10 months? Or at least it touches 10 months of the year. In fact, next year it's going to touch 11 months of the year. The only month where there's no games at all is January. And so I think that also creates a problem. The fact that the MLS season gets stretched out
00:44:04
Speaker
all the way that you end up having six weeks of essentially six weeks of the postseason. You know, if you would also have to figure out a way to limit to cut that down, because you can't have a season. Obviously, you can't have a season go playing, you know, essentially 10 months long. Yeah.
00:44:23
Speaker
Yeah, single elimination. I'm a big fan of just going to single elimination playoffs. But the other thing, and these issues become entangled only because people want them to be entangled. I don't think at their core that the transfer windows and the schedule are have to be entangled. But a lot of people think of them in tandem. I think it's because of the idea of a FIFA calendar and the idea that there's a quote unquote normal way to do things, which I kind of reject while still thinking that the league should have a different schedule and everything. But the fact that the
00:44:52
Speaker
transfer windows don't line up with a lot of the areas where MLS is increasingly doing business.
00:45:00
Speaker
I really wish general managers and technical directors for clubs would talk about this more because you don't have to go very far in conversations with teams to learn about deals that have to be put off one, sometimes two transfer windows just because one side of the equation or one team in the equation has this urgency to meet their transfer window deadline. The other team is like, okay, well, we can just wait. And it just ends up throwing off the timing of everything. So I think as MLS increasingly becomes
00:45:27
Speaker
a player in international markets, actually lining up the transfer windows would be beneficial to MLS. Okay, moving on. A little easier question, maybe. SFFC Scott about asked, Will Bruin, the striker we expected versus the striker he's become?
00:45:45
Speaker
I 100% the striker that you got everybody should have expected. Yeah, I think that if anything, we're probably like, I think I'm probably guilty of underestimating what he could bring. But if you look at if you just look at the numbers, and even if you just look at the way he plays, I mean, this is this is kind of what you know, the best of will I don't think we saw we did not see this version of Will Bruin during the 2016 season. But if you look at virtually every other year,
00:46:11
Speaker
This is basically, you kind of see what you get and it's a pretty reliable player. I mean, Will Brown to me is the exact type of player that if you had told me he's going to produce better numbers with better talent around him. Well, that probably applies to most players to begin with. But secondly, he does seem to be the prototypical person who has the work ethic and the intelligence and kind of the all around skill set that would be able to take advantage of better players around him.
00:46:36
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, I think it's why, you know, I've said, I think really since he was signed that he's exactly the kind of guy that I think should be sort of a rotational striker option on this team because he's not, you know, a traditional number nine target forward type, but he can fill that role. But he can also start up top and blend right into the system that the Sounders kind of want to play.
00:46:59
Speaker
Um, and yeah, I mean, I think that I'm surprised he scored as much as he has, but I'm also surprised he's played as much as he has because, you know, I didn't really expect Jordan Morris to miss half or more of the season. So, um, he's surprised me, but I don't, I think that that's probably more on me for like Jeremiah, Jeremiah said, underestimating him and, you know, what he was really capable of then, um,
00:47:25
Speaker
than him just really exceeding what should have been expected. This is a guy that's going to be a starting striker in his third MLS Cup final come Saturday. I mean, that's circumstance and coincidence, but there is something there. Andrew H. Way asks, what kind of advantage do you think Tom Dutra gives the Sounders in big games? Huge.
00:47:47
Speaker
I mean, it all joke. I mean, I do think that Tom Dutras is got to be one of the, I don't know how many goal. Well, I'll put, I guess I should back this up. I don't know. I can't name a single goalkeeper coach outside of Tom Dutra. And I would imagine that most fans, most people that cover MLS even can't name any goalkeeper coaches outside of the one that they are.
00:48:08
Speaker
you know, the team, they follow closest. That said, you know, I think that Tom Juche deserves a lot of credit for having, you know, consistently having great goalkeepers. You know, you look at at Stephen Fry's worst year was the year that he set the MLS record for most wins by a goalkeeper. And, you know, he's consistently the Sounders. That's one position that the Sounders have never really struggled with as goalkeeper.
00:48:35
Speaker
Brian underscore Mostrom asks, which would be more delicious winning the cup without a shot on goal again or winning it three nothing. Three nothing. Three nothing. I mean, well, it's funnier if we win without a shot on goal. It'd be more delicious, but it'd be worse. Yeah, it'd be worse for Seattle's legacy if they did it, but it'd be more delicious. It would be funnier.
00:48:59
Speaker
Um, I, I would strongly prefer just because I think I'm so tired of the way that that game has kind of been retconned and how the game actually went has been, um, I think completely forgotten. Um, it was a shitty game. Like this idea that Toronto, you know, just peppered the goal with all these amazing shots all game long. They had like one or two chances. It was a shitty game and, you know, five degree weather.
00:49:25
Speaker
Um, but, you know, the sound is, there's a reason why we keep seeing that one Stephen Fry save on Altidore over and over again, because there weren't a ton of other saves he had to make. Right. And even the save that he stopped Michael Bradley on in the penalty shootout was not a great save. Uh, and, and I think that you're, you're totally right that there just wasn't a lot of
00:49:49
Speaker
attacking going on. There weren't a lot of great chances from either side. You know, today, Brian Schmutzer talked about it, and he basically said he's tired of hearing about it. And the reason he's tired of hearing about it is because he, I think, honestly, doesn't think that the Sounders just basically parked the bus and let and let Toronto attack as much as, you know, it was just a game that didn't produce a lot of chances. And yeah, there's a statistical anomaly that the Sounders didn't put a single shot on goal. But if one of their shots had been easily saved, would that have changed anything? Would that have
00:50:19
Speaker
Like, like, I don't know. It just, it, it seems like a, I think we're also seeing, I mean, I think we're also seeing that in the past people made too much of a difference between shots and shots on goal. And as people have researched things like expected goals models that that divide between shots on goal and shots is should just not be as big a difference as people make it out to be. Any, any outcome that makes Kurt Larson sad. I'm all for.
00:50:51
Speaker
Can we also be honest about Stephen Fry's save last year? It was obviously a good save, but how many goalkeepers don't make that save? You guys have to remember, I'm back in Portland now. You can easily edit this part out. Moving on. Jim C Kim asks, if I was from the future and couldn't tell you the result of Saturday's match, but could relate to you that New Who was named MVP, what scenario could you come up with to explain it?
00:51:19
Speaker
Um, new who scores the game winning goal in the hundred 19th minute. Yeah. Uh, I knew who instead of stuff and fries, bicycle kick saves a Josie, uh, uh, an Altator header from going in the goal and the 90 and Eric knew who shot breaks Kurt Larson's laptop. The real MDP right there.
00:51:50
Speaker
Okay, Matt Kopp asks, what type of dressing does Spencer put on his side salad bulletin board material? That's a good question. I hope blue cheese, just because that's the best dressing. It's also can be blue and green. Oh, very well turned. So wait, do we want the dressing in the scenario to be good or bad?
00:52:19
Speaker
We want it to be bad, right? So what's like the worst? Yeah, so I don't know. Yeah, I would say any condiment is technically addressing. So I would go with I would go with ground gravy. It also has a it has a Canada tie in too. So that's true. Poutine salad.
00:52:45
Speaker
Okay. Um, you can tell we're in the, the, uh, serious questions now. M Gomini asks, how many sounder scars do I need to wear to survive weekend in Toronto? Four. No, it got nothing. One for each, uh, joint on your body. There you go. So five, at least five.
00:53:10
Speaker
You guys only have five joints on your body? That's kind of gross. Steve made your joints? I don't know. I mean, assuming you're wearing pants. That's on what kind of party I'm going to. Hey, we're not going to be in the Pacific Northwest anymore this weekend. Come on. Final's not in Colorado.
00:53:30
Speaker
Yeah, but it's legal in Canada too, right? It is? Oh my god. I don't know. What a country. I'm assuming. And here you are not going to Toronto, missing your chance. I thought that smell in Vancouver was just a Vancouver thing because I definitely smelled it before. Maybe it is, I don't know. I don't know. Yeah. What up, Sadie?
00:53:50
Speaker
Dots and Maps asks, question for you. Do penalties count as goals? Am I going to die if I play this game? I mean, penalties in normal play count as goals, like through 120 minutes they count as goals, right? Am I taking this question too seriously? I'm not getting a joke. Do penalties count? I don't know. I think he's referencing last year.
00:54:20
Speaker
having to sit through that. Hmm. You know, let's yeah, let's think about this and move on to the next question, because I think this has some levels. I hope this has some levels that we're not getting. Alonzy Rachel asks, what should I do to deal with all this anxiety I'm hit with? And whenever I think about Saturday, is it a Lonzy Rachel or is it Alice any Rachel? It's a Lonzy, as in like Doctor Who Alon. Oh, OK. Well, I didn't get that reference. I'm glad it's here to get that for us.
00:54:51
Speaker
I totally missed the question though by thinking about that. I got thrown off by it. I was like, wait a minute. Let's stop everything now and address this Twitter handle. I think the last time a similar question came up and we suggested that they drink, that was probably not the most responsible suggestion. So I'm going to say eat. Yeah. I don't know. Light a candle. Make some tea, maybe. Listen to some Enya.
00:55:21
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, like when I get really bad anxiety about things, um, I just go hide under the covers, but that's a different, I think that's a different kind of anxiety than what most people get. So you can do some yoga. I would say pet a dog. Tell a dog. Hey, which reminds me, follow me on Twitter. No.
00:55:45
Speaker
Okay, Nick Peyton asks, last year they ran out of all you can drink hot chocolate by halftime. Any other tips to stay warm at the stadium? This time it would be drink. Here's a tip. Hot chocolate is gross. No, hot chocolate skin. Yeah, drink. Hot chocolate skin. You could put booze in the hot chocolate. Yeah, you know what? You know, I feel bad for having like a strong or a hot food take because, come on, like there's nothing more trite than being a white guy with a hot food take, right?
00:56:15
Speaker
from Portland. Yeah. So like, I don't like hot chocolate. I felt the need to bring it up right now. Congratulations. That's exactly what we brought you on here for, to tell everybody that they're wrong about food. I mean, it's not not what we brought you on for. Right. OK, then I'm going to double down. Hot chocolate is fucking gross, y'all. Why are you drinking that shit? There you go.
00:56:42
Speaker
Okay, another important question. Bill Jones, S-T-R-P-T asks, which Joe Roth film should I pass the time with until Saturday? I've already exhausted a bachelor party. Are there any actually good Joe Roth movies? Whoa. I seriously, I don't know. Major League? Is that the hero of the movies? Yeah, he's co-producer. Oh, wow.
00:57:05
Speaker
I mean, I guess like I still I still like that movie. Yeah, I guess being a producer is kind of different to from being a director because he just writes checks or whatever. Right. So. So his directing credits, in case you're curious, oh, God, are Streets of Gold, which might be a decent movie. I don't know. Revenge of the Nerds 2, Nerds in Paradise, Coop de Vil, America's Sweethearts, Christmas with the Cranks and Freedom Land.
00:57:34
Speaker
I think I liked America's Sweethearts when it came out and then I actually started caring about movies and I've never seen it again. That's with John Cusack and Julia Roberts and Catherine Zeta Jones. Yes, it is. Wow. Freedom Land was one that was supposed to be a prestige picture. This is when I was still working in movies. And it's like in that crash vein of
00:57:59
Speaker
Dude, you guys know that people aren't always nice to each other, and sometimes it's because they're racist, you know, like that kind of shit. It's not, it's not very good. Is Coupe de Ville an Andrew Dice Clay movie? Yeah, I think so. I think that was his, yeah. Not a great resume, really. I think Revenge of the Earth 2 is the role of the director. Yeah. Yeah, I don't think that they have an uncomfortable rape scene in Revenge of the Earth 2, so.
00:58:26
Speaker
If we just go by the spirit of this question, like, which, like, you know, since it's a Joe Roth film and the game is in Toronto, where it might be snowing and cold, I would go with The Huntsman's Winter's War. Oh, he did. He did. Ladies and gentlemen, the fabulous stains. Hmm. I did not know that. That's pretty good. That is good. That's a pretty good. I'm just American. That's that kind of makes up for everything else. I'm just remembering America's sweetheart. They tried to make Julia Roberts into an ugly duckling.
00:58:54
Speaker
So that's a pretty bold move right there. To throw some glasses on Julia Robertson, pretend that she's not objectively attractive, is definitely a fantasy film of some kind. I feel compelled to point out that Couptaville was actually not an Andrew Dice Clay vehicle, but rather a Patrick Dempsey vehicle. Oh, shut the hell up. God damn it.
00:59:15
Speaker
That was a good two years, two minutes of our life where we actually thought we remembered Andrew Dice's Clay movie and then O'Shan shows up with his facts. Hi, I have integrity. What was that Andrew Dice Clay movie? Because I know there was one. Oh my God. Wasn't Andrew Dice Clay and Terry Hatcher?
00:59:37
Speaker
Oh, the Adventures of Ford Fairlane. That's what I'm looking for. That's right. And there had to be more than one, right? Andrew Dice Clay vehicle. That was the one. Yeah, but that was like his star vehicle or whatever. KAA81 asks, I want to watch the game within walking and lift distance from Coleman Ferry, but I'm not an ECS supporter. Where should I go? I mean, if you're not in, like,
01:00:07
Speaker
I don't know, maybe beverage place. There's a lot of ECS people there though. I mean, I think the odds of finding a bar that's going to be showing the game and like actually have it be an atmosphere would, you're going to run into some ECS folks. But yeah. Especially down there. Yeah. I mean, well, where is Coleman Dr. One downtown? Yeah, it is downtown. Okay.
01:00:32
Speaker
Um, yeah, you could go to Fido if this is what, if this is what it's not exactly, it's not exactly the, the epicenter of soccer bars right down there. No Fido is kind of lame too, because they've got like eight hundred 20 inch TVs or whatever. But like, at least last time I was there, which has been many years.
01:00:52
Speaker
But for those, but I mean, most, most bars are going to be showing it. Right. So yeah. So we could probably go to Collins, Collins, Bob, maybe. Oh yeah. That's a good call. Even in Fadeau, the way that it's actually set up, you can probably find a corner where you could, if you want to avoid like big supporter culture, there's going to be a corner Fadeau where you're going to be able to do that while still having some atmosphere. That's GFC is also right. So yeah. I guess like quality athletics, maybe. Yeah.
01:01:22
Speaker
Legion? Legion probably have it on. Henry's? Henry's, that's probably a good shout. Yeah. It's fairly close. Okay, last question. SR Skank asks, I'd like to celebrate goals with shots. What's your shot recommendation?
01:01:45
Speaker
It's one PM in the afternoon, so I'm probably going to be doing shots of like hot tea or something. So that's what I would go for. Yeah, Aaron's just waking up. Yeah, that's not true. I have to get up early now, comparatively to how he used to be.
01:02:06
Speaker
But still, tequila is definitely my favorite straight heart shot alcohol because you feel like you're, you know, if you're taking straight shots, you want to have some life go through you. And it's hard to take that much tequila into your body at once without giving into the experience. So that's why I always go for tequila.
01:02:28
Speaker
Might be a little dangerous if you're expecting to go 120 minutes and end in PKs though. If you're going to do tequila shots. Oh, you know what? That's probably what that first question was, is whether or not.
01:02:43
Speaker
Jeez. So no, they don't. Oh, for these purposes, they don't count as goals. I think. For God's sake. OK, so if your keeper, the keeper of the team that you're supporting saves a shot in the shootout, then take a shot. If the shooter misses, don't take a shot. If it's if it's like your keeper actively prevents a goal, then take a shot. Yeah, that's that's that's a good compromise.
01:03:13
Speaker
I like that. Okay, so tequila, we're going with tequila. All right, well, so that's it. That's it. Look it
01:03:23
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That is it. Well, that was fun. That was one of the more surreal question and answer sessions I feel like we've had. I apologize in advance. I guess it's not in advance. You've already listened to it at all. But I have a sneaking sensation that that was slightly out of sync for you because it was slightly out of sync for us even recording it.
01:03:46
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I apologize for any recording difficulties that you may have had to trudge through or listening difficulties, I should say. But anyway, thanks for hanging out with us. Thanks to Richard Farley. Hopefully, he's becoming a more and more regular fixture of this show. But hopefully we'll have at least one more episode to
01:04:10
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to unpack the season with. But it's been fun in case, for some reason, we don't get around to recording another one before Yacht-Con. But put that softly in your calendar right now. We are going to do another Yacht-Con. We don't have a firm date for it yet. But we're thinking it will probably be in February. But we've got to wait on the Sounders preseason schedule to finalize anything.
01:04:35
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But if you like the last Yacht-Con, hopefully you will find this one equally amendable. Anyway, I am Jeremiah Shan, signing off on behalf of Aaron Campo and Lickit, as well as our special guest, Richard Farley. This is no study at this. Oh, and I should probably mention all of our sponsors, who stuck through us through the whole year. Foolpool Wines, Queen Anne Acupuncture, Verity Credit Union, Designers Marble, and our broadcast partner Bootstrapper Studios.
01:05:05
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Again, I'm Jeremy O'Shan signing off on behalf of Aaron and Lickett. This is No Study at Disc. Remember, you'll never be out alone. Green Douglas, where were the waters cut through? Down to wild mountains and tangents you flew. Canadian northwest to the ocean so blue. It's roll on, Columbia roll on.
01:05:29
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Roll on, Columbia, roll on Roll on, Columbia, roll on Your power is turning our darkness to dawn Roll on, Columbia, roll on
01:06:01
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We love you. Let's win another one!