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Meet Dr. Kerry Akashian!
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Let’s meet Dr. Kerry, a Massachusetts Career Development Education Lead, futurist and supporter of women in Web3 decentralized economies.
In this episode, we learn there is so much more to Dr. Kerry than her impressive five page resume. Dr. Kerry educates us about her research on emerging adulthood, opens up about her experience as a Voyager creditor and shares how she found love on crypto twitter!
In addition, Dr. Kerry enlightens us about the power of manifestation and affirmations. She also gives specific examples of how she used the law of attraction to reshape her own life.
Whether you’ve heard Dr. Kerry speak in marathon twitter spaces or you’re just meeting her now, I do hope you’ll enjoy getting to know and learning from Dr. Kerry as much as I did!
xx Jade
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Introduction and Guest Overview
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this week on Behind the PFP. But really just like watch people that you feel passionate about and then just start reading about their struggles and successes and try to like maybe make better decisions. Affirmations are a cheat code for like anything like tell yourself you can do it, tell yourself like I hit the jackpot, tell yourself like I'm thin, I'm gorgeous, I'm all this stuff that it really can speed things up for you.
00:00:25
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So I'm wondering, did you manifest this? Did he fall in love with your tweets? This is just, you're the first person I've met who's found a boyfriend on Twitter. And I just, I want to hear the story. It's the best advice you've ever been given. Do what makes you happy.
00:00:52
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Hi everyone and welcome back to another episode of Behind the PFP. Today I am so excited to be joined by Dr. Carrie. Dr. Carrie and I met on Twitter spaces, which has become a new favorite pastime of mine. Now Dr. Carrie is very accomplished. She's a career development educator and she's also helping support women in decentralized web three economies, which is something I'm a huge fan of.
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Now, Dr. Carey, you were kind enough to send me your resume ahead of this interview and it's five pages long. I am so impressed. I was hoping you could give us the TLDR on your education and
Career Development and Emerging Adulthood
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background. Thanks for having me here, by the way, Jade. I'm super excited. I love what you're doing and how you're interviewing everyone and bringing everyone closer together in Web3.
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So yeah, I am the career development education lead in Massachusetts. That's my day job. I'm also a commissioner on the status of women and girls in Massachusetts. It's something that I care about deeply. So not just women's financial literacy, but the way they navigate through their day, their learning and development, their career choices, just ways to really
00:02:02
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bring women into anything that they want to be into without restrictions, so quality. I have a PhD in learning and development from Lesley University in Cambridge, and I focused on emerging adult women entering the workforce. And I focused on the age of 22 to 25 when they're just launching those first career moves and seeing how we could better tap into that period. So yeah, that's what I studied at Lesley.
00:02:31
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And yeah, it's carried me through so far. So good, yeah.
00:02:37
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So one part of your research that really fascinated me was this exact idea of emerging adulthood. And I feel like it's something I really connected with, and I think others will too. This idea that it's taking longer to grow up and we're stuck in this in-between phase, maybe more self-focused. I was wondering if you could speak a little bit more to that, because I know that I feel stuck. I feel like maybe I should be in a different place in my life. What should I be feeling? How will I know that I'm
00:03:06
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out of this phase and I'm so curious.
00:03:10
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Yeah, so I felt that same way and then I started studying it and became passionate about it. It's this new stage in life coined by Jeffrey Arnett in Worcester, Massachusetts. Basically before people used to get married right after high school or find a spouse right in college in 22, they were like ready to settle down. And now there's this giant and it's for a lot of different reasons. One of them is birth control, able to not have children right away.
00:03:39
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um just less pressure to get married as early people are continuing their education um there's not enough jobs people are in grad school they're living with their parents so there's a host of reasons boomers are staying in the workforce longer so it's this like extra adulthood that you have that no one's really studied or acknowledged or provided services for and you essentially age out of care so like
00:04:05
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You're in high school and you kind of have your teachers, you have your guidance counselors, you have your friends. And then these were like high performing girls. They went to women. They went to college. So it was not necessarily the same cohort. So not all students follow that traditional path of having that support in college, but the people that I studied did. So they went from kind of like
00:04:26
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having that support in college and then all of a sudden like services stop there's no like there's no like campus anything that you can go to at 22 if you go right, a lot of these women went to New York City to move with their friends and they ended up moving like a bunch of times or they ended up having to interview a bunch of times and nobody really prepared them for that.
00:04:46
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kind of chaos, and it was different. There are more people doing that life than like going right into marriage, family, like stability. And emerging adulthood has the pillars of like the way you know you've reached adulthood, it's accepting responsibility for yourself, financial independence, and this I hope they're continuing research, but
00:05:08
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age 30 is this like age 30 marriage deadline which I wish was not on the table because I felt extremely pressured at age 30 to like get married and have a baby so much so I did it like super quickly and I think
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looking back like I wish I had taken the time to properly navigate my life instead of worrying about like reaching certain adult benchmarks. So it's a new field and it's super promising to kind of chart your path like
00:05:41
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from 18 to 29 and then that can like spring you forward and don't worry if you're over if you're over 29 like you can change things as you can see like I'm always adjusting but during that time I felt like there was nowhere to go for people in that age group and I think Twitter spaces is one place where people are like really trying to identify mentors like
00:06:02
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Tell me what to do because they didn't learn it in college. Like they just, it was just not happening. Now I'm the career development education lead, right? Like it's not happening in high school that these people are learning this stuff. It's not happening in college. Like where are they going to learn
Societal Pressures and Education Needs
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it? So we need to adapt curriculum and give these kids a heads up to what's going to happen. And things change so fast too. So, you know, I did that research a while ago and things have even changed a little bit. And I see.
00:06:27
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people are even more competent than they were when I did the research. So that's promising. But yeah, I could go on and on about it, but those are the basics. It's a huge problem and it's something that I feel so personally, I went through high school and they tell you, okay, go to high school, study hard so you can get into a good college. And then once you get into a good college, study hard so they can get a good job and then get a good job, get married, buy the house.
00:06:54
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But then, you know, it's that, ah, and, you know, I've been doing all these things because that's what society told me that I should do, or that's what my parents told me that I should do. And then I feel as if I just woke up and I've been doing these certain things, but is that what I want to do? And I feel like I'm not the only person
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I just don't, there's, there was no resources. There is no guidance. You're right. Like once you hit age 22, that's it. You're on your own. And how do we find our own way? What makes us happy? It's a huge, important conversation. I'm glad there's people like you that are studying it.
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Yeah, no, it's fascinating. I mean, you don't know exactly what to do because you don't have any experience either. So there's like nothing to drop on. You don't have, you know, you're not 30 and can look back at things that happened and, you know, make different choices based on that. You're just like out there.
00:07:49
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Like, okay, good luck and people really expect quite a bit from people from new employees, and part of the reason why my professors let me study it was that the turnover rate in companies for 20 year olds was just astounding and they were losing millions of dollars each year just retraining people so the cost of retraining alone.
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were really significant. Also, there's a lot of mental health issues in that age group and so there were a lot of sick time was where they were calling in. And so that was another way that they were like companies were bleeding out money so it is not just like for emerging adults, it's also companies this contributes to your bottom line like you should, you should know about this, so.
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Hopefully contact me if you need any more information on it. I feel like you're pretty modest because you've actually done a TED talk where you were talking about a lot of these ideas, which I was so impressed by. And in that talk, you were talking about how one in four adults actually will struggle with
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mental health and depression issues by the early 20s.
Mental Health and Career Advice for Young Adults
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And this is actually a $42 billion industry where companies are having to spend that kind of money dealing with adults struggling with these issues, whether it's turnover or job loss and having to retrain other people. Have there been any solutions? Is there anything like that in the works? Are there any tips for care or some?
00:09:16
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I mean so emerging adults emerging adulthood is starting to be taught in psychology programs like you can go to college and take like intro to emerging adulthood, instead of sometimes they would have or actually a lot of times they.
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they have adolescent psychology, now they're adding emerging adulthood. So you could take an elective, right? That's been a change because this phrase has only been coined in since 2000. 2000. Yes, 2000. So, you know, it takes things, things a while to start. But some companies have helped
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people like identify mentors early. They've done a lot of intergenerational conflict type training where, you know, a boomer or a Gen Xer or a millennial might have differing beliefs. I know they have really great like TikTok videos now that they didn't have when I was doing this research. Like you learned so much from those and they're like,
00:10:11
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It just shows the evolution of thinking between all the different generations. And so they're doing a lot of that work. I do think that even though emerging adulthood is like at any time, so like I experienced emerging adulthood, you experienced emerging adulthood, I'm very excited about like the 22 year olds right now. Like they just seem so much more confident and better poised to take things on. There are a lot of people who aren't, but I'm hopeful that like this generation will allow
00:10:41
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researchers to study this more and really support people during this time. So like it's the kids themselves that I'm excited about. What advice would you give to 22 year olds that are coming out of school and going into this next phase in their life?
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I mean, I think it's very difficult to think about your whole life at 22. And I think, I mean, I was like, okay, I'm going to get married. And that's like it. And I'm going to be a teacher and I'm going to have kids. And then like, I was just like picturing myself at my parents' pool, but, and just like hanging out with my mom. Cause that's kind of what I did growing up. But.
00:11:22
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There's like so much more. And so there's so much different advice but really before you commit to like a graduate program, or anything huge that might put you into debt. If it doesn't pan out like really.
00:11:39
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really think about where you want to be financially, socially, and really do, it is that period to actually really think about your happiness. And I think it's, I remember being so stressed and so anxious and, and I'm like, Oh my goodness. Like if I could have just, like I didn't find out about like manifesting until I was 28 or 29. And I'm like, no, like, so
00:12:06
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I think really think about your life in two to five to 10 year increments. And then just really make careful decisions when you're gonna put a lot of money down, something that will have major implications for your life. And also for women, women tend to listen to their parents and siblings and boyfriends or significant others' perceptions of what they should do more so than men. So really think about what you want to do.
00:12:36
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and watch people that, there was this woman that inspired me so much, Jody Williams, she was a Nobel Peace Prize winner. And I got to meet her when I was 25 and I was just like, I'm like, I'm gonna talk like you, like you're so strong, I wanna talk like you. And like, so really, there's another quote that like women need to see it before they can be it, like start reading stories about Whitville. I'm just focusing on the women piece, because I know there's a lot of women that I,
00:13:02
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having my life that I care about but really just like watch people that you feel passionate about and then just start reading about their struggles and successes and try to like maybe make better decisions where they're like you could I could have done this so do this but then there's a lot of research too that's like would did I listen to everybody that told me to do what I should have done right but um but really I think the best advice is really just like model the people you want to be like that's like the the easiest way find someone that made that path and just like go for it
00:13:32
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I still resonate with that. And I want to read you something because you said the quote that I actually wrote down to bring up in a little bit. When I heard, I heard you speak earlier, and I loved this. You said, women see it before they can be it. Women gain confidence by sharing stories from other women.
00:13:52
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I think that is such a powerful statement. And that's a big part of the reason why I wanted to make this podcast. I wanted to share stories. If I can be an influence to others, if I can have strong women like you come on and share their stories. You're absolutely right. I was that person and I was following a certain path because that's what my parents told me to do. I was just following what my mom did.
00:14:20
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And if I saw other strong women doing things, then it would be so much easier to model that path. And I really respect how you've gotten so involved in the web free space, which is kind of what I want to segue into next, because it's a very male-dominated space.
Financial Literacy and Crypto Journey
00:14:36
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And I think women can make a huge contribution. So with that being said, I want to know what led you down the crypto rabbit hole, because everyone has a fun story, and I want to hear you.
00:14:49
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Um, it's so funny. I mean, I'm a single mom, right? And I'm trying to, I believe in not cheat codes. I don't think Crip does a cheat code, but I think in life you have to kind of develop ways of being in the world when things are difficult. And I started investing.
00:15:09
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after I got divorced, I think, just a little bit, like very little. I had no idea what I was doing. You know, it's so sad when I think about like all the education I've had, but I grew up, we never talked about financial literacy, grew up in, and I went to an urban school system. Like, anyway, so I got into the crib space. I first started investing in like Tesla on Robin Hood. And then, and then I started, I bought some Dogecoin and then,
00:15:39
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didn't sell at like 70, but it was at 79 cents and I like still like, you know, it's very difficult. Like that was a crypto mistake. But how I got into, to more crypto is that I got involved with a company called Voyager. And so I started listening to Twitter more. I already had like a Twitter profile, but I never really used it. Um, and I would just listen in to Twitter spaces and
00:16:02
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you know, my brother would think it was so funny. He's like, you're on like, you're like talking on the internet. And I'm like, yeah, I'm learning about, I get to, I get to learn and be in all these conversations that I'd never be in. Like, I don't have a chance to talk to dads, talk about their credit cards and how many points they have on them. And I'm like, I'm all of a sudden in these conversations where
00:16:24
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they're like giving me all this information that I never even knew I needed, right? So they're like, never have this credit card ever. And I'm like, oh my gosh, of course, Voyager didn't turn out so well either. So I made a lot of mistakes in like two years, but from that, from this, I've met so many people just talking about finances, but also I bring that other perspective like championing, championing,
00:16:51
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championing women. And my friend Jesse wrote a book, The Pocket Guide to Web3. And actually, I think I have it over. It should be in back of me right now. The Web3 Pocket Guide. I can show you at the end. But yeah, I'm just so excited. And like crypto, Wendy, oh, and just the few women that I think are in the space just need to be amplified. And I really
00:17:16
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love doing that work in general. I don't care what you're doing. If there's a field where women are underrepresented, I'm like, look at this woman. She's so wonderful, not just because she's a woman, but because she has all the facts. She is doing it 10 times better than half the guys that are out there. That kind of thing. That's how I stayed in the space, and I do some coaching, and then I got into a little bit
00:17:42
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web three dating advice type things and so that's kind of where I've landed I've been on a lot of different podcasts and shows on financial literacy and stuff like that so
00:17:56
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I'm still very much in state government, but I'm also looking at other opportunities like coaching, speaking, writing, and that kind of thing. So it's been exciting. You brought up something I wanted to touch on a tiny bit more. You've been pretty vocal about your experience with Voyager. I'm so sorry that you have funds locked.
00:18:15
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in voyager i'm a celsius creditor myself so i really do sympathize with you this year and the markets you know it's been tough enough just having the value of our crypto go down but then also having these companies fell bankruptcy and our funds the future of that being uncertain is difficult
00:18:33
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I was wondering if you could speak a little bit more about your experience with that and, you know, your thoughts on that moving forward and how you personally dealt with the uncertainty of this and how you're going to move forward. I mean, honestly, I was like all in on Voyager. I just thought it was a wonderful company. The ease of use is amazing. Like it's so funny because the app is still working and you can still see how much money you have. And it's just like, it's Celsius like that as well.
00:19:03
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Uh, you know, I haven't, I haven't logged in in a little while because it's, I have some PTSD from it, but probably no, I know, but I'm sorry. I won't make it. It actually works. Yeah. That we do have it, but it's, it shows, you know, the crypto that I'm still invested in other platforms, which I have to get off of. Um, but anyway, it, it's.
00:19:26
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It was so difficult because, you know, I became a VGX hero. I was really invested in the community and not in like a cultish way, although now we kind of look back and we were like, oh my God, like we were so into it. Like, don't say anything bad about Voyager. Like, this is a brokerage. It's amazing. We have Steve. He's amazing. He direct messages his customers and gets back to us. And in June, we had a one-year VGX hero celebration with him. And then July 1st, our money was locked, right?
00:19:56
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shocking stuff like on a Friday. Like if you think about like you're a single parent or anybody the Friday before the 4th of July weekend and it was if you get like bi-weekly checks or you get paid every other week or twice a month it was on that day for most people. So so many people just got their money like didn't get that check because we were using their debit cards it wasn't even like and their motto was unbank yourself.
00:20:24
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And so I just, yeah, I get it. Like it was, people are like, well, it wasn't regulated, blah, blah, blah. And it was never like, it was never even a question in my mind that it was like something like that would happen. But I've navigated this by, because I've gone through emerging adulthood and other parts of adulthood, I know that
00:20:47
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I've had some really hard times and I can get through it. I have a rare book business called antiquarian Barbie on Etsy. I have a bunch of books that I haven't even posted yet and I sell rare letters. I do a lot of different hustles. Um, but yeah, I mean, was I devastated is Christmas not going to be as good this year? Um, I mean, we have, we're rich in, in a lot. And so I don't like to think about wealth is just money, but yeah, it's definitely,
00:21:14
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difficult to be like, okay, that extra dance class or that extra thing. It's not as easy as it used to be. But one thing that did happen was that a lot of us, I think, weren't making that much or enough money in our regular jobs. And we were using our money to kind of sustain ourselves, like our trading, our stocks, right, for a long time. And so this helped me kind of realize like,
00:21:40
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I might have to look for different positions that pay more because I'm actually worth more. And so I wonder how true that is for a lot of other people. So that was like the one benefit of all this, but I still want to figure out what, if there's any path forward. So, but I'm not holding my breath and I'm trying to start again. Like you're taking a, you know, if there is a positive attitude to take, you know, you're, you're taking it and trying to find the lessons and are fucking back.
00:22:09
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you know, what you can learn from this and it's very hard, you know, I've been doing the same thing trying to find out why, you know, it's so easy to want to blame the companies, but you know, at the end of the day, we are the ones that invested the money and, you know, what can we learn and move forward. So, yeah, it was funny, Kevin O'Leary said something to, or whenever it was, maybe it was yesterday, but he said like,
00:22:34
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you know, I invested, you know, eight out of 10 companies I have invest that I invest in fail. So like, and then you make a ton of money on the two that you invest in that do well. And I never really, I'm like, okay, maybe I don't have the wealth mindset enough that that could really carry me through yet. So I need to kind of watch people like Kevin O'Leary, if you're interested in wealth, right? That's just another example of kind of like watching people that have what maybe you want. Yeah.
00:23:01
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Not financial advice, but I did have a crypto newsletter for awhile. I haven't been writing in as much called Dr. Carrie. Thanks. Um, and yeah, that's pretty much what I'd put, put my, uh, where I put what I was doing so that people could kind of see. So what, what were you writing in your newsletter? Just what the trades that I was making.
00:23:21
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and like where I was putting my money and which exchanges that I was happy with. So there's like some Voyager stuff in there, but really it's actually really interesting because you can see my whole thought process, like kind of like exactly how I traded for a year. It's almost like a journal of a trader for a year. Maybe I could do something with that, like make a book out of it or something, but it was pretty fascinating for me anyway to have that. This is so fascinating to me. Like what I was doing every day, I felt like it was so exciting.
00:23:52
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So yeah, I have slowed down on it a bit. It's harder. And I see people that in the bear market, they stop doing videos as much or they stop writing. And I'm like, oh, I see this now. I was like, oh, I'll keep doing it. I'll keep doing it. But yeah, Scott Melker did the same thing. Have you heard of Scott Melker? Yeah, I love him. And he did the same. I'm like, oh, OK. I'm going to keep a lock on my trading too. So it just ended up being a little newsletter. So you can go back and be like, darn it.
00:24:22
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But I think it's really important too, like as an educator to go through these mistakes because I don't want kids or emerging adults to like, like I'd love to, to be doing this work for them, right? Like make all the mistakes and then be like, okay, you can do this trading in this way and in a more safe way. I love the idea of that, but for some reason, I feel like at the end of the day, we all have to make our own.
00:24:47
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Mistakes as much as I hope people learn from me and I got wrecked on Luna and Celsius and I know a lot of other people have to other people warned me, but I had to make my own mistakes to finally learn and I'll probably that's true yeah multiple times.
00:25:04
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I think for me and my world, it was just even the word crypto, right? So that's why I, and it was very much for beginners, like you might look at it and be like, oh my gosh, I already know this stuff. But it was really for like the person who had just gotten in. And so like they hadn't even gotten to make trading mistakes yet. They were just kind of learning the landscape. So I think that
00:25:26
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I wasn't sure try to keep people from making mistakes this early. It was just like, this is what I'm doing. You could do it if you want, but don't, you know, not financial advice. I'm an educator. I love the idea that you were making a newsletter because I feel like the true way to mastery is when you are able to explain things to someone else. So I'm sure that helped you understand what you were doing and be able to explain that to others.
00:25:51
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One thing I wanted to ask you about is what is WIN or Women Intense NFT? I've been seeing you post about it. Yes. So I'm a partner with a channel partner of STEM Intense NFT.
Women in Web3 and STEM Initiatives
00:26:05
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And it is an NFT community and they're developing a metaverse and it's so cool. Like they're actually developing a metaverse that has a, there's like a library for like with female scientists in the library. There's like boardrooms where people can meet. There are just like different scientists, female scientists that you can learn from.
00:26:31
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And so like buying, buying an NFT and we're mostly marketing them to universities, but just having that NFT can ends up also enable one girl to be onboarded into web three. So that's a part of it. It's almost like a ticket to that metaverse is what that NFT is. So yeah, it's just starting the mint date was December 5th, but we're still like fully
00:27:00
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you know, kind of in the work. It was an NFT that I really believed in. So yeah, Women Intense NFT is just awesome. And one of those things that we were talking about is like, you have to see it in order to be it. So these NFTs are showcasing women in STEM fields.
00:27:16
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So you actually get to see a bunch of different NFTs with a bunch of different occupations. So if you purchase one of those, you kind of people get to actually see, OK, what is that? What is that position that I could maybe go into? And it's very diverse in nature, like the girls are from all different countries. And it's a project that I'm working with someone in India.
00:27:35
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And so I just Twitter has enabled me to work internationally, which is so cool. Like I've never had that. Like sometimes I work nationally, but you know, rarely it's more like in my state, but now like I get, you know, have international contacts. It's just wonderful. So.
00:27:51
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I love that Twitter has connected us with so many people, but this brings up a bigger question. A lot of your research and work has been in onboarding women into the workforce and crypto and web three is predominantly male. So I'm wondering, you know, aside from this NFT project, how can we attract more women, number one, as investors into the space and also to work and have roles actually, you know, being employed in the space as well?
00:28:18
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Yeah, I mean, I think it's just like any industry, right? It's like the STEM industry. It's like finance and business. You have to bring them in by welcoming them and showing that women are safe in this space and that they're taken seriously. And sometimes I do and I don't love like the separation. We have a lot of like women only events. And I think
00:28:42
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There can be a way to do that, but also for men to bring women in and not it to seem like, oh, like, like it's like, oh, I'm supporting women. It's just like you're supporting this qualified individual.
00:28:57
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I often have said these things last year, like I don't understand why men wouldn't want women investors. I mean, women make financial decisions for their families every day. They make them for men constantly. They have the money. They're in the workforce. Like the fact that they're neglected, it just it doesn't make any sense to me. So I think
00:29:20
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I mean, if you were an investor, start investing in Jade, right? Have her speak her message, invest in me as well if you want, but you know what I mean? Like have crypto females that can really talk and explain things to them in a way that doesn't feel so, such like a male space. Like I almost felt like I wasn't supposed to be there either, but because I wasn't so concerned about money when I was in my twenties, right? Like I was, um,
00:29:48
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I was thinking about handbags more I was thinking about shoes more but it's like someone told me like oh you might want to think about, you know, your finances in 10 years like you know you brought up a really interesting point, you know, I do see people trying to make an effort with these women only groups and web free.
00:30:06
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But why is it separated? Because that is just going to be male groups and the female groups. I know for me, it was a big struggle to kind of work my way in. It's a very intimidating space and I think it should just be for cohesion. I was so afraid to ask
00:30:22
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any group of I was in a big lunatic group chat so for the first year I didn't ask any question I didn't want them to think I was stupid I was the only girl right bunch of guys I was on Twitter because god forbid I asked a stupid question and I would get made fun of till the end of days but because of that I ended up making awful mistakes I went on discord ended up asking a question of a scammer and I got my wallet scammed to fifteen thousand dollars so I wish that we could make more
00:30:50
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inclusive space, and it doesn't need to be just women, it can be more of a mix. I really like that you said that I think that's a great idea. Yeah, I think, I mean it's good and bad, like they have, it helps to talk things out with women and figure out like what's, what are ways to like get ahead in this space, but really
00:31:14
Speaker
Sometimes it just does feel like very separate and this is like a separate awards, this is like a separate thing and I really think it's it's just like almost like women in Hollywood, like the men are at the top and they are controlling.
00:31:27
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the apes, they're controlling the money, they're at the very top. And so they're just, it's gonna take us a while to get there, to get to the top for a lot of people. And a lot of times there's only one or two and that one person can't mentor the entire world. And that's what is put on their shoulders.
00:31:47
Speaker
If men did want to give up a little bit of their power to bring women in as from an investor standpoint, like from like, look at all this money that you're not making. I think that would be a place to start because we just, the wealth is where the wealth is. And we have to, we have to understand that. Yeah. And there's a huge demographic that, you know, is not being tapped into.
00:32:10
Speaker
So switching gears a little bit, what would you say is your biggest accomplishment or proudest moment in the crypto space? My biggest accomplishment, I mean, I've made some good trades and I had no experience and I've learned a lot. But I mean, yeah, nothing's better than like making some really good trades and some decent money. But yeah, but really it's the lessons that are
00:32:39
Speaker
they're not my proudest moments, but they're like the things that you need to do to move on. And I guess meeting people, like meeting some, I have a few people who have been in the space, you know, the 2015ers, the, I know that doesn't seem like that long, but like people in 2012 and they're like, even though like we're really close to regulation and things are a little bit more wild and seems more mainstream, like there's still definitely opportunities. So,
00:33:09
Speaker
Just really those, my proud moments are just listening to the people before me who say that, that it's going to be okay. It's going to turn around. Like don't bet the farm, but, um, you know, this too shall pass. So that keeps me hopeful. I don't know if I have a proud moment though, because my proud moments are tonished by the other moments, you know, being open to lessons, you know, and connecting with community. I heard that as well. I think that's something to be very proud of.
00:33:39
Speaker
I think also just going, like you said, like asking the questions and like putting yourself out there is a huge
Manifestation and Personal Growth
00:33:47
Speaker
accomplishment. Going into a space that you know nothing about and actually trying to like be a person in it is super, it's hard enough going into my education groups by myself, you know what I mean? And like talking about education because you think everybody else is so much smarter than you are, right? Like, but going into something that you would know nothing about, like I go to some of the blockchain groups, I'm like a lurker, Boston blockchain,
00:34:09
Speaker
Like that's, you should be really proud of yourself if you do that, right? Like if you speak up in the long spaces, you should be really proud of yourself. Especially those spaces. I wanted to talk to you a little bit about manifestation, abundance, the law of attraction. You told me a story on Twitter recently about how you radically changed your life when you turned 30 within a year.
00:34:35
Speaker
And you still have the journal pages to prove it. So I was hoping you could tell that story because I thought it was very beautiful. And then I was hoping that you could tell us, you know, for anyone that feels like they're a bit stuck and they want to level up, you know, what can they do to, you know, change your life in the radical way that you do.
00:34:57
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, I, and I'm still, it's interesting because that year I'm like, wow, I wish I had the energy that I put into that year. Like, can that happen again? Because, you know, you can't always supercharge. Well, you can if you want to, but like sometimes you gotta go a little bit slower. There are seasons for everything. But when I was, so when I was 28,
00:35:20
Speaker
and 29, like I went through a really bad breakup and I started reading about the law of attraction and like, cause I wanted him back. So funny, he doesn't even know this. So if you're out there, like, but I just was like, how do I do this? And I started reading about like the secret and the secret to manifesting and like the world within is the world without like taking care of your insides to get like what you want in the outside and started meditating.
00:35:50
Speaker
And then I started just like getting a bunch of magazines and cutting out stuff that I found like I wanted in my life, the body that I wanted to have. And then I just committed to that like, actually maybe the breakup was 29. Yeah. Okay. I'm sorry. It was not 20 to 29. And then when I turned 30, I had like started to get that body that I wanted. And then I moved to Beacon Hill, the neighborhood that I wanted to live in because I had like
00:36:19
Speaker
seen all these pictures in like my manifestation journal and from magazines, I put them in there. Then,
00:36:28
Speaker
I met, so then I moved into Boston in this like beautiful neighborhood. And then I met my, he's now my ex-husband unfortunately, but I met him in June as I had written in the book, like I'm ready for love now. Universe, I'm ready. And I still have it. It was like June 20th. He was moving to California. I ended up moving to California. I got my dream home that I had been manifesting. Like all the homes in California were at this certain,
00:36:57
Speaker
color they were like they weren't like cool colors and then we walked into this one and it looked like I'd walked into a New England home and we just like got that and it had like a rose garden out back and my beautiful daughter um a year later and it was just really like a super charging time and it was
00:37:16
Speaker
Affirmations like crazy. And at that time I was writing a lot, but I will say that like affirmations are a cheat code for like anything, like tell yourself you can do it. Tell yourself like I hit the jackpot, tell yourself like I'm thin, I'm gorgeous, I'm all this stuff that it really can speed things up for you. But you really have to be consistent and put that energy in. And sometimes I'm kind of like, okay, you know, now it's different. But so that was like that crazy year where I had moved,
00:37:45
Speaker
you know, gotten married like nine months later, then like, no, I thought that had a baby. Like it was just like really, really fast. So it can happen. Like if you, when you want things, you just gotta be willing to deal with all the stuff that could happen as a result. Right. And like, be ready. Like, is this the relationship I want to be in? Idea that.
00:38:06
Speaker
When good things start happening to you, is it too good to be true? And this idea of self-sabotage, I feel like that's something I struggle with as well. So I'm wondering, you went from having this terrible breakup, but then you said, I'm ready for this. I want this. It was like a year later, though. But over the course of this year, when these good things started happening to you,
00:38:33
Speaker
think, oh, this is too good to be true or I'm ready for this. I asked for this. This is the universe giving me the love that I am ready for it. Yeah, that year was wild. I don't know why I felt like I was super ready. Now I get what you're saying. For me,
00:38:51
Speaker
Like sometimes it can feel too good to like, you're so used to not having feeling good feelings all the time. So it's like becoming a different person, like essentially like really changing your whole vibration, your whole attitude in a fast way. It doesn't really feel that great actually. Like it's, it's like, you're so used to a different way of being. So that year I really did push myself and, um,
00:39:18
Speaker
I didn't even have time to self-sabotage, really. I was really living. A lot of times I'm in my head. So I was doing all the experiences that I had written in my journal, right? They were coming one after another, which was really wild how fast they all happened. Because I had always wanted to move to California, too. It was on a bucket list that I had written 15 years before that. And I was like, oh, I guess I'll never move to California.
00:39:46
Speaker
meet my you know ex-husband in Boston and end up he's moving to California in August then end up moving like in December it's just like one of those things like you know things that you write down or think that you want like most likely will happen even if you don't think they will so getting it on paper is like super important.
00:40:04
Speaker
But yeah, I hear you with the self-sabotage. I do it all the time. Like I'm trying to manifest a certain body right now, but I stop myself because I'm like, okay, what are the, what happens with that too? Like what's the kind of attention that you get? Like what could go wrong? Like I think about those things and, or a certain job, like, am I prepared for that? Like, can I manage motherhood and that? So it's like, I do have, I think some more self-sabotage sometimes, but if you can kind of forget about all that and just go for it, you can really get what you want pretty fast.
00:40:34
Speaker
So it sounds like, you know, and for me, I've had a tough year. I think anyone who's watching this video has had a tough year, you know, and if we want to break out of this mold and achieve something a bit better, which I think anyone would want to do that is just taking action. But before you take action, you have to really visualize the life that you want to lead. And it sounds like you started with small changes, just writing that down.
00:41:02
Speaker
you know, the neighborhood that you wanted to live in, the body that you wanted to be in, where you saw yourself and then just subconsciously it forced you to take these little changes and you were so busy living your life that you weren't thinking too much and then suddenly you lived this life that you created yourself. I think that's such a beautiful story.
00:41:25
Speaker
Yeah, no, it's it's wonderful. I do think though that you it's super helpful to like keep doing that work because I know even sometimes like when I
00:41:36
Speaker
I'm not journaling anymore. I'm not visualizing. I fall off and then I can go back. But if you kind of keep up with it, keep up with your manifestations, keep up with the love in my marriage, all that kind of stuff, that's all stuff that I should have been maybe journaling about and thinking about and that can keep your manifestations together. So that's something that's
00:41:59
Speaker
people might want to take in, like really keep up with your manifestation and keep growing from there. Like marriage isn't the end goal. Like there's a whole life after that. I wanted to ask you, you found a boyfriend on crypto Twitter, which is the dream. You know, I kind of want to, is it the dream? You know, it is for me because I think it's really great to be able to connect to people. You get to learn so much about them. I have never met so many smart
00:42:27
Speaker
people and to be able to engage with their mind and without the physical component, you get to learn about them very quickly. I think it's great. So I'm wondering, did you manifest this? Did he fall in love with your tweets? This is just, you're the first person I've met who's found a boyfriend on Twitter and I just, I want to hear this story.
00:42:47
Speaker
He would, I was just in my boyager rooms, you know, I wasn't looking for anyone. I actually, I had a boyfriend, things weren't going that well, you know, and because of crypto Twitter, because I'm so on crypto Twitter and, you know, designing my life, he probably just wasn't right for me. It's definitely different, like dating, like with a child and adults, it's just different than like dating when you're truly single.
00:43:17
Speaker
So he would always come into these Voyager rooms and I just, I don't know. I like loved his voice and he was like, but I guess I just really, I just like joke around with him and a little bit. And then, or he told me that I'd get really quiet when he would come in. And I just think I really liked listening to his voice, but I usually like talk so much myself that I don't do that. And then he does financial literacy and
00:43:47
Speaker
you know, I'm interested in that as well. And so a few months later, like we started talking and like about we had a phone call or whatever. And then he just, you know, started calling me more. And that's like, that's the story. Like it really just we just like really liked each other, like just kind of found each other funny. And I think
00:44:13
Speaker
It's, it's so nice to kind of just connect with the voice that we didn't, we were both docs, but like, like, I didn't know like his, I didn't know like every, like all his physicality or whatever. And so yeah, like he just, then I was like, Oh, well.
00:44:32
Speaker
Like we're going to do this and we should do it. And so like, let's meet up kind of like, like I'm not going to be your web three girlfriend and not meet you. Like I find that so weird that a lot of people do that or they like have so many different friends or they're that, I mean, it's fine if they're comfortable with that, but I'm like, if like, I want to be in a relationship. So like, and I don't, and I want it to be in real life. So, um, and Twitter too, like can do that for branding purposes and all that kind of stuff. Um,
00:45:02
Speaker
So yeah, then I met him in August and then we've been together since then and he came last weekend to visit. So yeah, that's interesting for sure. Like it's been nice to have Twitter guys kind of, they're kind of like making sure they, that he treats me right in some ways. Like that's not, it's nice to have like the community watching out for you, like spatula college or high school days kind of.
00:45:30
Speaker
I love that you found love on crypto Twitter, especially because it can be such a, sometimes a toxic place, especially in a bear market. But I love this positive vibe and this good feel good story. I think it's great.
00:45:44
Speaker
Anyway, you are one busy lady. Sorry. You have a full-time job.
Balancing Life and Future Goals
00:45:51
Speaker
You're doing a bunch of other things in the web-free space. You've got a side hustle with rare books. You're a single mom. What do you do when you have a minute of free time? What do you like to do?
00:46:07
Speaker
What's that? No, I mean, I have like a few friends in the city and we go out occasionally to remind ourselves that we're adults. Because I, you know, I live in the city. I love it here. I'm a city person for sure. Although I could be persuaded to live in a huge castle or something like that in the suburbs. But I like being around people a lot but having my own little place to retreat to.
00:46:32
Speaker
Yeah, I really don't have a ton of time. So that's what I do. I go out, I read, I like to make things. Like I jump journal with my daughter. We like create these little crafty type things. I like the beach. I did axe throwing recently and I was pretty good at it and I had no idea, but that was pretty fun. So yeah, and I want to get back into tennis. I used to be pretty good at that, so.
00:46:59
Speaker
But when you become like a mom, it's, it's hard to like, to like have interests that are, that are, uh, that you're keeping up with, you know? So he's a dancer. I sit in my car and watch her dance. But you touched on this a little bit, but what are you currently manifesting? Money. Like.
00:47:27
Speaker
some more ease. Well, actually a manifest, you want to see, I have this, I have a giant wet dry erase board here and it says, I'm manifesting $2 million and a trip to Disney in January. So I'm starting with the January trip.
00:47:43
Speaker
to Disney. I have no idea how I'm going to pay for it. Just started looking at, you know, different flights and started working out for like bathing suits, that kind of thing. So that's what I'm manifesting right now. Okay. So the next section I call quick take and it's designed for a little bit of shorter answers. What's the best advice you've ever been given? Do what makes you happy. You make life changing money on a meme coin. What's the first thing you buy?
00:48:11
Speaker
actually would probably pay off my condo. That's first. Then I would get like, you know, my daughter and I would figure it out. And then I'd get some things done to my body and face probably too. And then I would donate it all to empowering women across the universe. Right, we'll take it. Who is your web three crush? Jonathan Bloom. Is it a real crush or a big crush?
00:48:40
Speaker
I think you would say that's a good idea. You're my real crush, but you know, yeah, we say each other. So. And for people that aren't watching, this is her crypto Twitter turned real boyfriend. Yes. At Bloom life skills. Okay. Ted talks or Twitter spaces. You know, it's funny. I've actually met more people through Twitter spaces and I like them more because the interaction, but yeah.
00:49:08
Speaker
Yeah. So Twitter space is probably, I love Twitter spaces too. All right. This is, this is a tough one. Lunch for seppy or dinner with coach Bruce. Oh my God. You can't ask me that.
00:49:22
Speaker
I just did. What if I told you I've already done both? Then I would tell you I am excited. I'm always eating when we're talking. So you know what, I haven't. Cephi and I probably, I was like the older people in the room probably eventually we'll have to get down to business. So we'll probably, so probably lunch with Cephi, but I love Bruce, but we're always in fights lately. So gotta be better coach Bruce. I'm the real deal.
00:49:54
Speaker
I'm gonna get in trouble for that. Complete the sentence. I am. I am excited about things to come. I was looking for like an affirmation. Yeah, I'm excited about things to come. I am so awesome. They really are great. I'm thinking about doing an affirmation channel.
00:50:17
Speaker
I've listened to some that go on for eight hours at night and they've really helped me transform the way I think about relationships. So, and I know that's like a big thing in web three. So I think that I'll have to get on that. I think you should because just, I always see your really positive tweets and just scrolling upon that in my timeline, just seeing it every once in a while, I know it gets buried into my subconscious mind and it really does.
00:50:42
Speaker
Thank you. Just a couple last words. Since you are excited. This is perfect segways my next question. What excites you the most about the future of three?
Web3's Potential and Identity Embrace
00:50:52
Speaker
I'm so excited about just the different projects in the metaverse and how we really have the ability to make sure that it doesn't turn into just Vegas like and like
00:51:06
Speaker
you know, when Biff got the almanac and back to the future too and everything just went to crap. Like we have an actual opportunity to create educated spaces, beautiful spaces, fun spaces, adult friendly spaces, kid friendly spaces, but we have to do it before like it becomes Vegas. Not that Vegas is bad, I love Vegas, but you know what I mean? Not too like too wild that it completely changes, changes society.
00:51:36
Speaker
forever, you know, so that's what I'm excited about. And if there's one thing you wish people knew about you or that they take away from this interview, what would it be? Yeah, no, I mean, I guess I hope that people know that, you know, I think people do, but like, no one's ever just one thing, like, you can be into rare books and crypto education and
00:52:02
Speaker
you know, tennis and just different things and like throughout life and, you know, you don't have to just put yourself in one box, even though everybody is so into branding, which is wonderful. You can be a multi-layered person and then that's okay. Well, Dr. Carey, it's been very fun to get to know all of your layers today. You know, I only knew you as, you know, kind of this,
00:52:29
Speaker
you know, fun person on Twitter space is one of the only women. And it's been fun to get to know you that way. But I really enjoyed this conversation. And I appreciate all of the good that you're doing getting more women involved. And your research sounds fascinating. And I look forward to your affirmation channel. And I hope you get back to writing. I would love to. Okay. So for people that want to follow you, I will link to your Twitter. But is there anywhere else that they can follow your work?
00:52:59
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, I'm on, I guess I'm on LinkedIn. I'm on the wisdom app and where I answer short questions if you have any. But yeah, and I'm soon to have my link tree all like, you know, together. But yeah, it's pretty much for now. It's Twitter, wisdom app, Facebook, you know, old school type stuff. Fantastic. I love the combination of the old and the new, but thank you. Yes.
00:53:28
Speaker
for your time today, Dr. Carey. I really, really enjoyed getting to know you and our conversation. And I am sure that I will see you soon in Twitter spaces. Thank you so much, Jade. Talk to you soon.