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Nos Audietis, Episode 271: Plumbing the depths
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We’ve made it to the new season, finally. It’s been a bit of an uneven start with the Sounders going 2-2 in their four games, but still find themselves carrying a 1-0 lead into the road leg of their CONCACAF Champions League quarterfinal against Chivas. The series will conclude on Wednesday at Estadio Akron in Guadalajara.
While the results haven’t all been positive, we’ve at least discovered the Sounders have a bit more depth than we had feared. Once this team gets healthy — and they better! — this feels like it could be a pretty fun ride.
This week's music: "Legend Has It (Black Panther Trailer version)", Perry Como - "Seattle", RVIVR - “The Tide”, Woody Guthrie - "Roll On Columbia"
Thanks to James Woollard, Sounders Public Address Announcer, for doing our sponsor reads. You can follow him on Twitter at @BritVoxUS - if you're looking for a British Voice to advertise your business or non-profit, please reach out to him.
Want to hear the music from the show in their glorious, full versions? Check out the Nos Audietis playlist on Spotify!
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Transcript
Introduction & Sponsorship by Full Pool Wines
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Sounders' Season Start & CONCACAF Performance
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Hey, this is Christian Roldan. And Jordan Morris from the Seattle Sounders Football Club. And you're listening to... There's no study at this.
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The bluest skies you've ever seen are in Seattle. And the hills the greenest green in Seattle. Like a beautiful child growing up. Welcome to another edition of Noose Adientus, sponsored by Fullpool Wands, Queen Anne Acupuncture, Verity Credit Union, and our broadcast partner Bootstrapper Studios. This is episode 271. We're calling.
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Yacht-Con, 270 in case you're curious, and we're recording on Monday, March 12th. I'm your host, Jeremiah O'Shan, and I'm joined by my co-host, Aaron Campo, and our engineer, Lickit. So we finally made it to a new season. It's been a bit of an uneven start for the Sounders, going 2-2 in their four games, but they still find themselves carrying a 1-0 lead into the road leg of their CONCACAP Champions League quarterfinal against Chivas.
Chivas' Stadium & Sponsorship Discussion
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The series will conclude on Wednesday at Estadio Acron in Guadalajara,
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So Aaron, we'll just start simply, how are you feeling going into this game? I'm feeling pretty amused by Estadio Akron, I have to say. What is Akron? Do you know what it is? It's a tire company. Okay. So it's, you know, it's like any, but it's just, it sounds funny. That combination of words sounds very funny to me.
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I agree. I have had this exact same reaction. And the other thing that's kind of funny is I assumed along until this, until this now, I had assumed that it was still a study of OmniLife, partly because OmniLife, as far as I know it, is Jorge Veigara's company. And he is the owner of Chivas. And so I'm kind of wild. I sure there's a story behind why the stadium is no longer named after his multi-level marketing company.
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Yeah, I mean, I'm sure that Akron just gave him a huge dump truck full of money. That would be my guess. But yeah, I mean, it is a little weird. I mean, maybe he got tired of having to pay for his own advertising. Maybe.
Sounders' Player Performance Reflections
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But anyway, yeah, I feel pretty good. The LAFC game was a huge bummer, but
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I feel a lot better about it after seeing what they did to RSL for the weekend. How do you know that works, isn't it? They just, yeah, I mean, they just, they ripped them to shreds and really they did. I mean, they had, they had one real chance against us and took it. So, you know, not to take anything away from, from their performance, but you know, it certainly was not a pedal to the metal, scoring five goals, like we saw against RSL. So. Diego Rossi looks like he's a pretty decent player too.
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He does, yeah. Carlos Vela also can play a little bit. So yeah, I mean, it's still frustrating because I don't think their defense is any good. And when you have that many chances and can't convert, it sucks a lot to watch an experience. But shit happens, especially early in the season. I believe in 2014, we lost our first game at home.
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It doesn't really mean anything in the grand scheme, I guess, other than it sucks to lose. But we took our business against Santa Tecla and looked very, very good when doing it. And it's always nice when the Sounders can manage to just kind of put the boots to somebody, especially a team that is just clearly inferior. And the Sounders have struggled with those teams in the past. And so it was nice to see them
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uh really take it to somebody and then uh yeah it was definitely a frustrating start to the season uh i think the sounders were the better team on the whole i don't think that's going particularly outside of the uh
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Standard thinking I know the expected goals had the sounders at like a goal and a half advantage, which is pretty significant They took something like 22 shots 14 of them I want to say were inside the penalty area So it wasn't even like the centers were just getting lots of shots. They were getting they were getting lots of good shots and it was
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And it was, you know,
Squad Depth & Strategy Post-Jordan Morris Injury
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the, the, the, the Sounders did a lot except for put the, the goal, put the ball in the goal. Um, and one of the, the encouraging players in that game, uh, was Honbola Buona who then followed that up with a, with a pretty good performance against Chivas. Although it was interesting because there was some early stages of that performance that were not so good. Uh, what was your overall, I know early on you expressed some concern about Buona. What overall was your take on Buona's performance?
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I thought he really grew into the game. I thought that he was shaky early on. It definitely looked a level or two above what he was comfortable with, but he won two penalties in the space of about 30 seconds. Didn't get either one of them, but he
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I think pretty clearly one penalties in both instances. And, you know, it's just really active causing a lot of problems. I mean, the play before he came out of the game, he'd gotten hacked down because he'd just beaten his man and gotten through the defense just by, you know, taking a guy on one on one. So, yeah, I mean, I think really encouraging performance from him.
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Um, I think we're all kind of used to seeing rookies early in the year and maybe not do a whole lot with the opportunities they get. So, you know, to see him come in and, um, on that kind of a stage, you know, his first start is against Chibosh in the Champions League. Um, and, and putting that kind of performances is really, really encouraging.
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Yeah, and the other thing that was really encouraging, aside from Bawana, was the play of Henry Wingo, and I thought he looked pretty good in both appearances last week. He was creating... I thought he did a decent job of...
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being matched up against a very tough opponent in the LAFC. Diego Rossi was on his side of the field. I think, rightly, LAFC was attacking that side of the center's defense early on. Partly, a lot of that was Jordy Delham as a right back. And Jordy Delham is a lot of things. A standout right back is not one of them. It's a little frustrating that the Sounders found themselves.
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having to start Dome right back so early this year, but that's kind of the way it goes sometimes. But I thought Wingo acquitted himself reasonably well. He attacked well. I thought he had a couple of decent, he set up a couple of decent chances. There was one chance in particular where he almost set up Will Bruin for affinity a couple of times. He almost set Will Bruin up. And then of course he had the assist late in the game to Clint Dempsey in the Chivas game.
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So, I mean, at the very least, I think it's very encouraging that the center's found two young players who look like they're going to be able to provide useful minutes going forward.
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you know, for all the talk about how the Sounders are an old team, that they have two 20-something, you know, or guys that are, I guess, Bawana's 18, but two young players who look like they're gonna have, you know, very busy seasons. So, you know, even if that's what they get out of the LAFC match, I think that's not for nothing.
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Yeah, I think a big part of what you're hoping for early in the season, aside from winning and getting points because that's always nice, is shaking out the way your roster looks. The fact that they've been able to get some really solid performances from those two young guys is super encouraging. It's one less thing they have to worry about, which is always nice.
Winger Depth & Open Cup Strategy
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Um, and you know, suddenly they're just totally stacked at winger. Um, and I remember it's funny, like in the off season, you know, the big thing was like, well, you know, obviously winger is really the area and they need to upgrade and, and they certainly don't need to sign a DP striker.
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And now they've got wingers coming out of their ears and no strikers. So it's kind of funny how that shakes out. But to have quality depth is always great. And to have quality depth that players that are very young, off cap, with high ceilings is certainly very, very nice. Yeah, it's funny. The sounder's depth actually, I think, in general looks pretty good. Wolf has only
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He's only played two games, right? He didn't play in the Chivas game and he played against LAFC and then he played against the second leg of Sentatikla. And, you know, what we've seen from him is very encouraging. You know, we haven't seen Victor Rodriguez play at all. And if he's able to contribute, that's another outside mid who looks very good.
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uh so the Sounders I think are are actually for all the concern over depth this offseason I think Jordan McCrary is showing himself to be a very capable right back I can I can I think we all saw um like I don't think most of us would have expected the performance we got from McCrary from Fisher against Chivas would you say that's fair yeah I think that's very fair um which sucks because I always liked Fisher but um I think that it's
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It's only been a few games, but I think it looks like they kind of chose correctly in that particular scenario.
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Yeah, and then you look at, you look at New Who or Francis, I think you kind of have a 1A, 1B situation there at left back. We haven't seen Kim Ki-hee yet, but he looks like he's going to be a very capable third center back. Osvaldo Alonzo obviously hasn't played yet. He's essentially right now your third defensive mid. So you go down the roster.
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I don't know that the centers have a like we I can't say that I'm super confident about their backup goalkeeper I can't say I'm super confident about whoever's backing up will ruin but I think you look at everywhere else the other nine positions and I I'd be hard-pressed to say that I'm concerned about depth anywhere else I feel like I'm pretty I actually think that they've built a team that's capable of rolling out maybe not literally two very good starting 11s, but
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I think that it's a team that's capable of having a lot of competitive games where they play two or three times in a week. Yeah, it's very strange to me that the narrative from last season has persisted of the Sounders carrying an incomplete team. Because if not for Jordan Morris going out injured, they'd be stacked everywhere. And it's
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By all indications, they're going to attempt to address that in this window rather than in the next window. You wrote a thing, gosh, it would have been almost two years ago, I think, talking about how the Sounders have been going to MLS cups and competing and competing for championships while in the middle of a rebuild. I think we're getting close to the end of that, to where when you look at all the talent that's come in over the past,
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year, year and a half maybe. And now they've been able to kind of do that on the fly. It's really impressive. And this team is very deep everywhere except, as you said, for forward. And there's not a ton they can do about the fact that a guy that they were expecting to be a starting striker blew out his ACL in the first game of the season. I mean, shit happens sometimes. So yeah, it's very bizarre to me that
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The strategy of what they were doing last season early in the year seems very obvious to me, especially in hindsight. I think it worked out pretty well, honestly. And the reasons that they were doing it, the reasons that they left roster spots open, it all seems to make a whole lot of sense to me. And this belief that that's just the way they're going to do things.
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forever in the face of a lot of evidence to the contrary is very strange because this team is very deep right now. And yeah, Jordy Delham had to start it right back. But again, you can't be six people deep at every position. And the fact that they have somebody that can even be functional at right back considering the players they were missing, I think is pretty impressive.
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No, and that's the thing is that I think you can only guard so much, realistically, like they have, you know, if you lose a starter, and then you have to use your backup to your backup, there's just not a lot of teams in this league that are going to be able to just roll with a third choice player at any position. And right, it's certainly at fullback where, you know, it's, it's usually going to be one of your
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your shallower talent positions is gonna be right back. You're probably looking at a third right back who is not a natural right back. I mean, that's just the nature of MLS rosters. You're looking- I mean, at that point, it's not even really just MLS anymore. I mean, that's an issue that teams outside of maybe the top two or three in every big league in Europe are facing.
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Oh, right, exactly. And so that's just, you know, on some level, that's just you kind of just chalk it up to, like you said, shit happens. So I'm feeling pretty good about this depth. If the sounders go into the summer healthy,
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I actually really like their chances of being competitive in Open Cup without having to sacrifice a ton from the first team. I don't think we're going to see Nico Lidero playing in Open Cup. I don't think we're going to see Will Bruin playing in Open Cup unless we have another starting forward by then. But I don't think you're going to see a lot of
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first team starters playing in Open Cup, but I still think that you're going to have a very competitive team. You're going to have guys like Hondual Buana, you're going to have guys like Henry Wingo, you know, someone like a new who your center back might still be a little bit of a question. You might get some Sam Rogers in there, but
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Sam Rogers doesn't look like a bad player to be using as your emergency center back either.
Need for Starting Forward & Recruitment Strategy
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So I think depth wise, I think if we learned anything in this early part of the season, it's that concerns over the center's depth has probably been a bit overblown.
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The one glaring need on this team is really a top class starting forward. And I don't think that Will Bruin is bad. I think that you can probably figure things out if Will Bruin is just starting forward. But I don't think that you can get too far if LaMarnaygal is your top backup option.
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Yeah, I mean, that's the thing. I think everybody wants to see the sounders improve on will ruin in this window. But the status quo is just absolutely not an option. They've got to make something happen there. And if it can't be, you know, a DP or a Tam forward coming in, then it's got to be somebody that can provide some more depth and serve as an upgrade over Lamar Nagel. Because, man, if we're in a situation, again, where Lamar Nagel is getting meaningful minutes and meaningful games, I'm going to pull my hair out. I swear to God, I can't deal with it anymore, man.
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Speaker
Well, and you know, it's funny, it's like, I actually don't mind Lamar Nagel coming off the bench like he did against LAFC, you know, like he did against Chivas. I don't think he is a bad player or things that Lamar Nagel does that can be useful even on a really good team. And maybe that's just providing a little bit of extra defense from the forward position. Maybe that's just, you know, having some
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quantifiable veteran savvy on the field with you late in games. Like I don't think, like I think there's something that Lamar Nagel can still offer, but what that probably isn't is 90 minutes of great soccer. And it's certainly not 90 minutes of great soccer from a team that has aspirations of being the best team in the league. And that's really what it comes down to is that it's not that Lamar Nagel is not an MLS quality player, it's that
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He's not the caliber of player that should be starting on a team with aspirations as high as the Sounders. And unless they find a solution soon, we are going to see games where Lamar Nagel starts. We might see that as soon as this coming weekend, because I don't know that we realistically are going to get a sixth appearance from Will Bruin this early in the season. We saw Will Bruin already dragging a little bit in the cheapest game.
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you know, I think that's understandable. This is a guy that's put a lot of minutes on. And, you know, again, this isn't the slag Lamour Nagel. It's just, I do think that the sounders I would hope are looking very seriously at looking for a short term fix. And if it means spending a few, you know, a few more dollars on a transfer fee to get the guy they want early, I really hope they do that.
00:18:29
Speaker
Yeah, same here. I mean, I think that it's understandable that Lamor and Eagle might get some starts just given the situation that they're in, but it's something that's got to be addressed. And if it means them maybe
00:18:45
Speaker
I think the best way to put it is Garth is very fond of saying, we're only going to make a deal if it's the right deal at the right time, the right player, et cetera, et cetera. And I think the definition of what all of those three things means in context has changed pretty dramatically over the past couple of weeks.
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The right deal now looks a lot different than it would have if Jordan Morris was still healthy. I think that's just the reality of the situation. The window for this current team is closing and you've got a ton of talent on this team.
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you're going to have to replace some of these guys soon. And it would be a huge shame to waste it, because they didn't move quickly enough to fill what's a pretty gaping hole on the roster. And I'd say, I don't think Darwin Quintero is a player the Sounders are after, just because I think there's a lot of reasons to think that he's not the solution to the problem that they're trying to fix specifically.
00:19:48
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But a player like that, you know, a player who is maybe struggling for minutes in the league at MX, who probably isn't a long-term solution, who still has some obvious short-term upside, I think that they would be crazy not to try to make that happen, even if that means that it delays their long-term solution until this next offseason.
00:20:17
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Yeah, I agree with you. I mean, I think that the circumstances have changed and you have to be willing to be flexible. But there's no reason to hamstring yourself for the long term. I mean, people are very fond of talking about Ginyak for obvious reason. I mean, he's a great player. I don't think he's a player that makes a ton of sense. And I don't think he's itching to leave Tigris by, you know,
00:20:39
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in any case, but somebody like that is not necessarily appealing in the best of circumstances, but they're very appealing in the current circumstances where you've got a window with some veteran players that's going to close sooner rather than later, and you want to win as many trophies as you can with this group. That changes the equation of what they're looking for, and you also don't want to be blocking Jordan Morris in the long-term if you can avoid it.
00:21:08
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Right, and I don't think, and see the thing is my suspicion is that the Sounders probably, if they're looking at one player that is like an impact signing, that I think that they wanna spend a lot of money on, I don't think it's a number nine. I think if they're gonna blow out their budget and they're gonna bring in someone who's gonna cost, you know, all in somewhere in the 10 to $15 million range,
00:21:36
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My suspicion is that's gonna be a Clint Dempsey kind of replacement like it's gonna be more of a playmaker slash score you know someone who is more of a pure you know that has his his fingers in a lot of the pieces of the office you know maybe like a number ten for lack of a better lack of a better way of describing it.
00:21:56
Speaker
But I think that there's every reason to think that they could go out and find a short-term solution as a number nine to just basically fill the gap until Jordan Morris gets back and then Jordan Morris can compete for this guy maybe for next year.
00:22:10
Speaker
And and that's and we don't know that Jordan Morris is gonna just be able to come back. I mean he won't have been playing for a year so Chances are Jordan Morris won't be the sounder starting forward on first kick of 2019 either That's just reality, right, right? So yeah, I mean I think that that you know, it's not ideal but I think we're in agreement that whatever whatever our thinking was and I guess there's part of me that's actually kind of
00:22:38
Speaker
The Sounders got a little lucky in this way. My understanding is that they were pretty close to making a signing this offseason. I don't know who it was.
00:22:50
Speaker
My understanding is that they were looking for a Clint Dempsey type of player and they didn't get that player and the player basically just ultimately decided not to come. But I think that they'd be a little hamstrung right now if they had filled their one potential available DP spot with a player who is almost like surplus now.
00:23:16
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And maybe they could have played that person at it, like I don't know who it was, but my suspicion is that they were not a classic nine. And now they can actually go out and get that nine. So this was, you know, maybe this is one of those times where Garth being a little slower about making these signings, and this is kind of what happened last offseason is that, you know, if you had identified
00:23:39
Speaker
at the beginning of the season that you were going to spend TAM, you probably weren't going to go out and spend it on a right back, but if they had spent it early, they wouldn't have, they might not have been able to get that right back. And Kelvin Lirdham. Right. Yeah. And I think, I mean, I do think that that's where.
00:23:55
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the whole patience and making sure you're making the radio comes in because it does give you that added flexibility. I can understand not wanting to put yourself into a situation where you're unable to be flexible in the secondary window and make any signings that are going to address any problems that have come up during the course of the season. It just turns out this year that a pretty glaring problem happened pretty early in
Community Support & Yacht-Con Prime
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the season.
00:24:24
Speaker
Yeah, well, that's probably a good place to call us a segment. But before we go to break and before we take questions, I just wanted to take a moment to say thank you to everyone that tuned in, that came out, that donated to Yacht-Con Prime. It was, from my perspective, extremely, I just thought it was a great event. I really enjoyed being part of it.
00:24:49
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There was a lot of people that helped out that made it happen. Emily Cummings was someone who made a huge, huge contribution in terms of getting us more organized and making sure we had a program that made sense and that ran. Lickett again did some amazing work. I really appreciate, you know, of course, Erin and myself put in plenty of work in there too, but people like
00:25:13
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Like Bootstrapper Studios did a ton on the day of the production. We had a ton of volunteers that just, you know, they helped make it happen. And it was a really fun event. And, you know, we're hoping to be able to kind of do this thing semi-regularly. I don't know that we'll do it every year in February.
00:25:32
Speaker
It was fun to do it then. When it was all said and done, I think we ended up raising about $4,500 for the Seattle Children's Autism Center, which feels good. And if you still want to donate to that, you are absolutely welcome to do it. Just google Yacht-Com Prime. There's going to be links in there to
00:25:52
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to donate directly. But yeah, so thanks a lot to everyone. And if for some reason you didn't, you were at the event and you won a prize and you have not been able to collect it yet, be sure to get in contact with us. I know we still have to figure out the grand prize winner. We have to work out that situation. But anyway, thanks a lot to everyone that came out. Thanks a lot to everyone who donated. And yeah, we'll go to break. And you'll listen to no salut.
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00:28:07
Speaker
Okay, Tom Glantz asks, when and how do you expect to see Kim Ki-hee integrated? I mean, I would think that we will see him see action in one of these games this week.
00:28:22
Speaker
either the game at Guadalajara or at Dallas. I would suspect that of those two games, he's probably more likely to start the Dallas game. It'll be interesting to see who starts next to him, but I think we'll see extended minutes from him.
00:28:40
Speaker
at least in one of those two games. My suspicion is that there's not really a compelling reason not to start Torres and Marshall in Guadalajara knowing Schmetzer he's going to go with kind of the known quantity, but I think I would not be at all surprised to see him starting in Dallas.
00:29:00
Speaker
Yeah, I think that center backs are always going to take a little bit of time to integrate. There's a lot that they've got to get used to that I think are bigger concerns than you would see at other positions. But he's been with the team for a couple of weeks now. And like you said, there's going to be plenty of playing time opportunities, especially as long as the Sounders are still in the Champions League. So I think any time there's a short week, he's likely to get some MLS time.
00:29:30
Speaker
And he, he wasn't playing when he showed up, right? Cause he was like off season. That's yeah, that's not been entirely clear, but yeah, I'm pretty sure he had, I mean, he was definitely, uh, because China is on a similar schedule as the United States, but I don't know how deep into, like, I don't know how deep into preseason he actually was. So I don't know how ready to hit the ground running he was when he got here. Okay.
00:29:57
Speaker
Next question. Bill Jones, S-T-R-P-T-S. I thought, well, Bruin was great last Wednesday. Is it just me?
00:30:04
Speaker
I think it might be just you. I don't know. I thought he was okay. I mean, I thought he was fine. And he faded fast, you know, later in the second half, which, you know, who wouldn't with all the minutes he's put in. But I didn't, you know, I didn't see anything from him that really just blew me away. I thought he was serviceable as usual. But I think you could definitely see that, you know, the level of competition is, he's not quite there, I don't think.
00:30:32
Speaker
I'm trying to think of what he did that may have jumped out at Bill. Because I don't remember him being bad. I remember feeling like he was tiring towards the end. And he was getting himself into some dangerous positions, but it wasn't like he had a bunch of close chances or anything, right?
00:30:53
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, not really. I think it was, you know, he's always going to do the dirty work. And I guess maybe in that sense, he was a little bit more effective kind of with his hold-up play than usual. That's kind of been a pretty common topic as to whether or not his hold-up play is actually any good. And I thought it was better than usual against Chivas. So maybe that was part of it. You know, he definitely put in the work. I just, I'm with you. There's nothing really about
00:31:21
Speaker
about his performance in that game that stands out, that jumps out at me as something that would give him a check plus for the evening. He did have one play where he pushed the ball past their defender and it looked like he sprinted way past him. So that was one. Maybe that was it.
00:31:42
Speaker
Okay. Flounders B team asks, who's your ideal 11 versus Chivas with players available then versus FCD? So I think the lineup I'm kind of expecting to see against Chivas is of course Fry.
00:32:00
Speaker
I think we're going to see the same back line that we saw against Chivas in the first leg. And the reason for that is not because McCrary has suddenly jumped Leardham on the depth chart, but my suspicion is that they're just not. I'm going to be a little surprised if Leardham starts only because it's been
00:32:19
Speaker
I mean, when was the last time he played extended minutes in the preseason? It's been at least a month, right? And so I think Spencer probably isn't dying to get him out there right away, but I could see him maybe coming on as a second half sub, kind of like we saw in his debut against DC United, which I don't know if he did. I guess he didn't start the second half, but he came on pretty early in the second half.
00:32:43
Speaker
Uh, so I could see something similar to that and then against Dallas. Uh, and then I think, I think we're going to see a lot of, I think we'll see Svensson rolled on again. And then my hope is that we'll see a midfield trio of, of, uh, Wolf Dempsey Ledero. And then, uh, and Bruin up top. Yeah, that seems about right. I mean, I think that, uh,
00:33:14
Speaker
I hope that Lirdham gets the start. I'm inclined to agree with you, though. I think that there's just nothing really about the way we've seen Ryan Spencer do things to suggest that he's going to throw Lirdham right back in there without really having a lot of time to get back to full fitness. And it probably makes sense, but as decent as McCrary has been, and I thought he was pretty good against Chivas on Wednesday,
00:33:41
Speaker
I actually thought I'd go a step farther and say that I actually thought he was the most pleasant surprise. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's fair. Yeah. But, you know, I mean, Colvin Nerdom is still a much better player. And I think that, you know, you would want to have that kind of that kind of experience and everything going into an environment like that. But
00:34:06
Speaker
But, you know, I think there's a pretty decent case to be made that it makes more sense to maybe save him for, like you said, a second half sub appearance or, you know, hopefully they don't even need that. Hopefully they've got, you know, got things pretty comfortable and he doesn't even need to play. But I think the odds of that happening are pretty slim.
00:34:28
Speaker
Well, let me put this, put it to you this way. Let's assume that Kelvin Lirdham has got 60 minutes in him at max, right? Would you rather see him start and go 60 minute and come out around the 60 minute mark? Or would you rather see him come off the bench early in the second half and try to close out that game?
00:34:46
Speaker
I think the latter I, I think that in especially in a situation where you know you you're protecting a lead and you're protecting a lead against the team with as much firepower as Jesus has.
00:35:01
Speaker
It's always better to have the opportunity to make your defense better than to know you're going to have to make it worse as the game gets late. And, you know, if they're still clinging to a 1-0 lead, 65 minutes in, cheapest is going to start pouring a lot of guys forward. And, you know, McCrary, I think I'm pretty comfortable with him based on what we've seen so far.
00:35:21
Speaker
I don't want to be in a situation where, you know, we're seeing the defense get actively worse late in the game. So I would much rather, you know, save him if he can only go 60 minutes. And, you know, the odds are pretty good that he probably can't go 90 minutes. So I hope I'm wrong about that. But I don't see any reason to think that I am. Yeah, I know. Are we operating under the theory that third him is 100 percent with his ankle? I mean, I think I think he might. My assumption is that if he's
00:35:51
Speaker
he's close enough to a hundred percent on the ankle. It's just that he has, if he hasn't been doing, you know, if he hasn't been in full training for a month, I just have a hard time seeing him being fit for 90 minutes. Right. Yeah. Uh, the second part of that question was, uh, what, I guess just what formations sent the same formations have been using, or would they switch any of those two games to a diamond?
Tactical Formations & Dismissal of the Diamond
00:36:18
Speaker
I think the whole point of the diamond was really revolving around my assumption is that it was kind of revolving around the availability of Morris and that as long as without Morris or without that kind of forward, I don't know that
00:36:36
Speaker
a Dempsey Bruin forward pairing. I guess you could have Dempsey Bruin with Lidero playing as a 10 essentially. But if you have Wolf on the field, I just don't see what point there is in going to a diamond because he's not going to be a Shuttler.
00:36:56
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, I feel like you're kind of looking for ways to make it work. Maybe there are situational times where it makes sense to go to that for, you know, a brief period of time. But I don't know, it just kind of feels like trying to jam square pegs into round holes. And I'm not a huge fan of the diamond anyway. I think it's kind of had its moment as a, you know, sort of an in vogue formation. But I think there's
00:37:21
Speaker
a lot of information out there on how to counteract it. So I'm not super broken up that I think that we're not likely to see it too often this season. But yeah, I don't know.
00:37:35
Speaker
Really, the Sounders formationally and tactically all season, aside from maybe the first Santa Tecla game, have looked good. Against LAFC, they created a ton of chances. They certainly had plenty of chances against Chivas. Things looked fluid. The players looked comfortable. I don't see any reason to switch things up. I think that
00:37:57
Speaker
it's just going to have to come down to the performances. But tactically, I think, you know, you might need to make a few adjustments here or there, but I think things have been pretty good so far this season.
00:38:06
Speaker
Yeah, then as far as Dallas goes, I think we'll probably see... Keihi, we'll probably see New Who. I guess Alphara... Alphara won't be available, I guess, right? For the... for the Dallas game. So it'll be interesting to... So it'll be interesting to see what... Oh yeah. Maybe we see... Maybe we see Svensson next to Keihi. Or maybe we see... I mean, I guess it wouldn't be crazy to see Marshall or Torres play twice in a relatively short period. I don't... I'd...
00:38:35
Speaker
Yeah, they've got Delim. Delim can play in the middle too. Right, Delim, I mean I would think... So I think maybe you see Svensson drop back and then you see Delim with Roldan in the midfield. I think you'll see Lidero starting again. Man, are we gonna see... We might see Bruin again, right? I mean it would be...
00:38:57
Speaker
I don't know what else they would do. I mean, I would imagine Dempsey is probably not going to be available to start. And so, you know, I mean, I guess I could start Shae. That just seems unlikely. I mean, I guess they could start Nagel. That doesn't seem super likely, but maybe that's... They really have got to move up that timeline and just get another body in here.
00:39:23
Speaker
a little nerve-wracking, I gotta say. Yeah. Yeah. Um, I would say that there are some legitimate concerns. I mean, I don't know. I mean, I guess Nagel, if Nagel's your third option at forward, but he's not, he ends up becoming back. I mean, I think he's okay as a third option at forward, but you just don't want to be in a position. I mean, cause effectively right now he's their second choice forward because chances are Dempsey is not going to be available when Bruin isn't.
00:39:49
Speaker
And so it just creates a lot of problems. But I think we'll probably see ships start against Dallas. And then the forward, I guess, is the big question, right?
Transfer Strategy & Squad Strengthening
00:40:01
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. It's Bawana. Oh, we might see. I mean, we could see, you know, I take that back. We could see Bawana. We could see Wingo in that game. Yeah. I'm sure we'll see Bawana in that game, actually.
00:40:19
Speaker
Speaking of the timetable to find a player, Tim if he asks, I know he's not in the best form right now, but do you think the team could bring Polito back to Seattle with them? I would take that. I like Polito. I've always kind of liked him. I think he was with Tigris when the Sanders played Tigris.
00:40:42
Speaker
in Champions League and I wouldn't mind that's a it's a nice player to target the problem with Polito and I would think that the Sounders are thinking about it this way is that it and it's the same problem with like Darwin Kentaro
00:40:57
Speaker
is that if you're going to go and you're going to buy a forward to bring in right now, and assuming they advance past Chivas, I would think that one of the basic requirements is that you would want them to be able to play in Champions League. And Quitero wouldn't be able to play for the Sounders in Champions League. Toledo wouldn't be able to play for the Sounders in Champions League.
00:41:20
Speaker
Not that those are necessarily the two top targets or that there are even targets of theirs, but I do think it diminishes the possibility of either of those guys coming to the Sounders. Yeah. But if Jeeves knocks us out, then we can bring him back because that's not a concern anymore. And he's already been kidnapped once. Good kidnapping humor.
00:41:46
Speaker
I got a tweet that you're reporting that those two players are on the radar. Ken Weiss 2020 asks, do we come out trying to get the first goal versus Jeevos or playing more conservative, hoping to score on the counter? I mean, I don't think there's any point.
00:42:07
Speaker
in trying to put away Chivas early because there's no, like, even if the center scored early, it's not like, I don't think they can comfortably just sit back and defend for, you know, 70 minutes. Essentially, that's what Tigris did.
00:42:26
Speaker
when they came here. They won 1-0 at home, scored first down in Seattle, and that game ended up not even being, it didn't come down to the wire. So I don't think that scoring early has to be the initial goal. I think the initial goal has to be getting to halftime with no worse than the score now. So I think it's more important to go into halftime, 0-0, essentially, to try to get a goal early.
00:42:58
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, I don't, I never like, uh, sitting back in a shell. Um, and I think that the MLS cup final last year is a good example of why that's a bad idea. Um, but I don't think you have to be aggressive. I mean, I think that, uh, you know, the sounders are, they generally have such a patient style anyway, that, um, you know, they're, they're.
00:43:22
Speaker
I mean, a huge part of their identity is being a very stout defensive team. And so they don't really have to change much to feel like they have a pretty good chance of protecting a lead. So that kind of gives them the opportunity to just kind of do what they do and weather any storms that come their way. I mean, as good as Chivas is and as much attacking talent as they have,
00:43:47
Speaker
They've been piss poor at home really since they won the, I think it was the Clouserra they won in 2016, 2017, whatever it was. Yeah, they've won like five of their last 20 games at home. And I think...
00:44:03
Speaker
The only win at home they have in this calendar year was whatever Ham and Egger team they beat in the last round of the Champions League. So yeah, I mean, I think that, you know, the Sounders can kind of do what they do and expect to be able to hold to keep a clean sheet. And, you know, and they don't I don't think they have to sacrifice anything going forward to do that. I mean, I think they're going to approach it like they would any other game on the road.
00:44:30
Speaker
because there's a lot of, for obvious reasons, but there's a lot of gravitas behind Chivas' name, but they're just not that good of a team. I think that they are a better team than the Sounders. I think they have more talent than the Sounders.
00:44:46
Speaker
But I don't think the gap is that big. And I think that acting like this is the team that, this is the Chivas of old. This is vintage. They're just not. There's a reason that they're towards the bottom in League of MX right now. So I don't think there's any need to panic or to act like the Sounders don't deserve to be in the lead because they do. They played a lot better than Chivas on Wednesday. They were probably unlucky not to have a bigger lead. So they should feel pretty confident.
00:45:19
Speaker
Yeah, and I'd go farther to say that I don't think that the sounders should be, I don't think anyone's sitting here saying the sounders should be bunkering, but they should go in just with the idea that they're playing them straight up, and that they are essentially playing Tide, and that I think there's a very real possibility that if the longer Chivas goes without scoring,
00:45:42
Speaker
the more that the pressure builds on them, the more the crowd is going to be turning against them. And that is one thing about Mexican fans, fans of big clubs like Chivas, is they don't really tolerate poor performances. And if the Sounders go into this game at halftime 0-0, I think that they're in a great spot. I mean, frankly, I'm not going to sit here and say that they wouldn't be in a better spot if they were up 2-0.
00:46:06
Speaker
1-0, I think, is a perfectly acceptable spot to be in. And what I would hate to see is for them to be going all out trying to get the first goal. What are the odds of the Sounders coming out late from the half? They would probably actually get punished for it. Right, exactly. That's how, of course,
00:46:32
Speaker
Uh, Ken Wise had a second question, which I won't ask how we ask it, but, um, let's just say the Sounders could, could they take a chart? Could they have taken a charter flight down to Mexico?
Travel Strategy & Charter Flights
00:46:44
Speaker
I guess they could have. Um, and I don't frankly know the reason that they didn't, um, because they, they get a set number of charters throughout the year. My only assumption is that they are essentially holding those charters for.
00:47:01
Speaker
you know later in this tournament potentially or later in like my guess is that they've identified a number of like I think they only get three charters throughout the year and and for sure MLS could do the teams in Champions League a favor and basically grant them a waiver for chartering for Champions League games and so there's of course something that MLS could do to help to help MLS teams
00:47:32
Speaker
navigate that, but as far as why the Sounders didn't charter this one, I can only assume that they have already identified a handful of dates later in the season. Uh, possibly later in champions league that they club rolled cup, right? Yeah. No, I would imagine that wouldn't count. Cause it would be in the off season, but, um, yeah, my, I mean, my assumption is that that's the reason why is that there must be some other dates on the calendar that they think are more.
00:47:58
Speaker
are more helpful. And I guess they didn't take a direct flight to Guadalajara. I can assure you that there are direct flights to Guadalajara from Seattle. Whatever. Okay, moving on. Nick in Seattle asks, odds on a Seattle versus Toronto CCL final and the universe imploding if it does?
CONCACAF Final Speculation: Seattle vs Toronto?
00:48:21
Speaker
Man, I sure as hell hope not. I'm just so tired of hearing about Toronto from Sounders fans. I'm just so sick of it. I never want to hear about Toronto again. I think in a home and home, the Sounders match up pretty well with them. I don't know that they'd be favored, but it would certainly be pretty close.
00:48:44
Speaker
Um, but I just don't, I don't want to hear it anymore. Um, and I, and I just, I think you're going to have trouble getting past. I mean, they're, they're in a decent spot against Tigris, but they're not in a great spot against Tigris and Tigris are, you know, they're pretty good team. Uh, and then they've still got America on their side of the bracket as well. Yeah. Um, it's a tough road. It's a tough road to get through for sure. For them, they definitely are on the harder side of the bracket and.
00:49:11
Speaker
And if I had to choose between a 1-0 lead and a 2-1 lead, you'd take the 1-0 lead every day just because you haven't given up a road goal. Taking a one goal lead, all things being equal into Guadalajara versus into Monterey from Tigris, I would absolutely take the Sounders opponent in that one. So I think that...
00:49:36
Speaker
Toronto has their work cut out for them to get out of the quarterfinals. And then America right now might be the best team and is probably the best team, the most talented team in North America. And Tigris might be the second most talented team and they might be flipped. So if Toronto gets through that,
00:49:55
Speaker
Yeah, I guess it would be, I don't quite have the same feelings about not wanting to play Toronto. I wouldn't mind facing them in a home and home. But there would be something, if the Sounders got to a final, there would be something somewhat anticlimactic about playing another MLS team as opposed to playing a legal MX team in the final.
00:50:17
Speaker
Guess we need to cancel that episode with Kurt Larson as a guest, huh? Yeah, I know. We would never be able to get that co-hosted episode with Kurt Larson. Antoine LaTran asks, well, first of all, Victor Rodriguez's injury is a what?
Winger Rankings & Forward Target Challenges
00:50:36
Speaker
Apparently it's a quad. So his question is, go ahead. As far as I know, it's a quad injury.
00:50:45
Speaker
Okay, uh, so antron antoine latron asks you to rank the wingers all the wingers we have Well, I guess we got a lot of things like are they outside are we counting everyone are we counting like lidero? Well, well he he specifically says like wolf wingo well wolf has to be at the top
00:51:10
Speaker
Man, I don't know. What do you think between Buanda and Wingo? Who do you like more today? Now, I would imagine you think Buanda is a better long-term prospect.
00:51:19
Speaker
I, man, that's tough. I thought Buana really grew into the game. I thought he was having a pretty rough go the first 20, 30 minutes, but I thought he just obviously got much, much better as the game went along. But I still think Wingo is probably the safer bet, if that makes sense. But I would put V-Rod and Wolf as 1A and 1B.
00:51:46
Speaker
And then I guess, you know, Wingo and Varna would be kind of 2 a.m., 2 b. But you'd take both of them over ship tomorrow.
00:51:57
Speaker
Man, that's tough. I like ship a lot better as a central midfielder. I think he's just a better fit there. Let me ask you this. Let me pose the question this way. Let's assume that two of Boana, Wingo, and Ship are going to start against Dallas. Which two do you want? I think I would want Ship and Boana.
00:52:23
Speaker
as the starters in that situation. Yeah, I think I like that too, partly because I like the idea of being able to bring Wingo off the bench. And I feel like Wingo's energy running at tired legs is maybe more useful. And Wingo can also drop back and play right back. Right. On the same subject, Twimberly23 asks, who gets more first humans this year, Wingo or Bona?
00:52:52
Speaker
I would say that Wingo is gonna end up getting more first team minutes, but it's gonna be really close. I think both of them are gonna, and only because my suspicion is that the sounders are gonna want to make sure Bwana is playing regularly and can imagine him going to S2 and spending time there and that could end up having an impact on
00:53:21
Speaker
how many minutes he gets with the first team. So I'm going to go with Wingo, but I think it's going to be very close. Not underscore Rossi asks, um, what court, what current MLS forwards are realistic target? Would you are realistic target that you would like to see come in until we get a summer DP, man, there just, uh, there aren't any MLS forwards that.
00:53:46
Speaker
would have the kind of impact that I would like to see that would be worth what you'd have to give up for them, I don't think. The allocation money trade market, unless you're kind of filling out the back end of the roster, is a nightmare.
00:54:02
Speaker
The number of teams that have gotten actually good deals given off allocation is pretty small. There's not anyone the Sounders have that I would say is really surplus.
00:54:18
Speaker
I don't know, I would much rather go outside the league. And I think too, the premise of the question is kind of flawed. I mean, the assumption is that, you know, we're absolutely waiting until the summer to bring in a designated player. And I just, I don't know that that's the case. I mean, I think that it's entirely possible that they bring in a Tam or a DP player in this window and that they do it at the forward spot. I mean, there's not a whole lot of sense in bringing in Wilbur in part two, I don't really think. It doesn't, I mean, it gives you some more depth, but it doesn't necessarily make you better.
00:54:48
Speaker
Yeah, I hear you on that for sure. And I don't know that there is a forward out there that I...
00:54:57
Speaker
I would think that if you're going to go for a trade in the league, it's not going to be, it's going to be someone that's clearly more of a backup. Someone who is going to displace Will Bruin necessarily. Uh, you know, it's someone who maybe has the potential like a Patrick Mullins. Like, I don't even know that Patrick Mullins would be available, but a player like that, I could see the Saunders maybe bringing in, uh, someone who is, you know, who, if you
00:55:22
Speaker
Because I think the centers ultimately are going to bring in a DP forward. And so that's going to assume that whoever if they were to bring someone in the short term, that wasn't a DP, that's going to now become your third choice forward. And so whoever you bring in.
00:55:38
Speaker
is going to have to be someone that you're okay, essentially that you're okay with being a third forward. And so it's, it's, you know, like, I'll put it this way, Aaron. If Ola Kamara was available, if this had happened earlier in the offseason and the Sounders could have been in on Ola Kamara, would you have wanted to see the Sounders go after him as a Jordan Morris replacement?
00:56:01
Speaker
Maybe, I don't know. I just, there's a functionally infinite number of players that you can sign from outside of MLS and you don't have to give up allocation money. You don't have to give up TAM. And so I just, yeah, Camara's a known quantity and that's good. And if you can get them on the right deal, you know. Let's assume they had to give up what LA gave up. What did LA give up? Zarda's and then a bunch of allocation money.
00:56:29
Speaker
Yeah, and so I mean... So it'd be like giving up Bruin and a bunch of allocation money. Yeah, no, I just, I don't think so. I don't think that would be interesting to me. I mean, he's a good player, and maybe if you're LA and you need...
00:56:45
Speaker
You need to get rid of Zardes for one and get him off your books because he was costing a lot of money. But I'm sure that LA is in a situation where they wanted someone that they knew that they could depend on, that they didn't have to worry about him getting up to speed and learning League and blah, blah, blah. Maybe that's more important.
00:57:05
Speaker
I don't know. I think that trading in the league for high profile players is kind of a soccer game. I just haven't seen anybody get a good enough deal to ignore the entire global soccer market in order to pursue it. But I will say, I think if it gets towards the
00:57:25
Speaker
end of the window or even, you know, in the next three, four weeks. Um, and the sounders haven't, you know, been able to land somebody at that point. I think you kind of have to go that route of finding somebody you're comfortable being a third forward because they can't get through the whole first half of the season with will ruin and she had a Koya and Lamar Nagel. That's just not, it's just not going to happen. All right. So one more player I'll throw out there actually available.
00:57:53
Speaker
I think maybe he's hurt and that's why he hasn't been playing pool. What about Finedo Audie? If the sounders could get Finedo Audie for, you know, presumably a big, you know, they'd have to give up a bunch of allocation money. Is that something you think they'd like to see him do? Now this is assuming he'd have to be a DP. Right. I mean, I don't know that the tempers would actually want that much for Audie at this point.
00:58:21
Speaker
He's been so unreliable. I mean, they're not going to give him to the Sounders for nothing. I mean, I like him a lot. I like his game a lot. I know a lot of people hate him and want to think that he sucks because he plays for the Timbers. But he's actually really good. And I think he'd be a pretty good fit on this team. But he's hurt every five minutes. So that's a pretty huge drawback.
00:58:48
Speaker
Um, uh, so yeah, probably not. I mean, if he was still playing in Denmark or wherever he was playing before, then yeah, you know, go for it. But right. If you could, if you could buy him, uh, yeah, I mean, that's the thing is that it's like the value, the return on your investment on spending allocation money to buy down a player is.
00:59:13
Speaker
Seemingly it's like see I don't know. I've never actually looked at it But my guess is that it's like almost like two to one in terms of like how much money you got to spend To buy down a player because you have to double you have to double spending money in some ways. Yeah
00:59:28
Speaker
Especially somebody like R or Audie, you know, where you're giving up. Right. Like, I don't know what Kimora's salary, I don't know if he's actually on the books as a DP or as a TAM, but if he's a TAM, that means they had to not only buy, they had to trade whatever they had to trade to get them, but then they also have to use TAM to buy them down.
00:59:48
Speaker
And, uh, and yeah, I mean, I think you're right. It's kind of a suckers game to, like, if you have the resources, if you have the actual financial resources to go outside the league, trading a lot of TAM just does not seem like a good way to spend money. And I'm with you. So there's not, I don't know that there's, there's not a starting, I guess that's why I'll leave it. Uh, I don't think there's an obvious starting quality player that I'd go out and get. I think you have to be targeting more of a backup and I'll stick with Patrick Mullins.
01:00:16
Speaker
Okay. Uh, man. Caps offside actually had a decent question, so I will ask it to you guys. Sounders are joint bottom with the timbers. Which team ends March with more points? Was that the one he had to like take a break? Yes. It took him like three to five minutes to come over. What was the question again? That we're joint bottom with the timbers. Which team ends with more points in March?
01:00:43
Speaker
Uh, I don't know who they're, who they play even. Uh, but I'm going to say us because they've looked just, we're also not, we're not, we're also not joint bottom there. So they've given five goals or six goals and scored one. Yeah. They've also, they also played SC Dallas and they play Chicago in this month. Yeah. And we have like three games, right? No, we only have two more. It's still, I think it's us.
01:01:12
Speaker
It's such a, it's such an instance. First of all, first of all, we played one game. So we gave up one goal. So let's like, come on, but beyond that, like, what are we going to say? Yeah. We think the timbers are going to finish it. Yeah, we play. Well, we do. We play at Dallas and then we play Montreal and we've got a lot of buys early.
01:01:35
Speaker
Yes, we do. Well, kind of. Yeah. It's nice though. It kind of allows you to get back into things. You know, it would have been, it would have been a really boring early start to the season if we'd gone out against Santa. Yeah. I'm glad we didn't. Yeah, that would have been not so great.
01:01:59
Speaker
Okay, let's wrap it up with this question. Finish this sentence. Jay Montel asks, a wolf, a goose, a bear, and a honey badger walk into a bar.
01:02:11
Speaker
I wish I had prepped for this a little bit more. How do these jokes usually go? Here I got it. The bartender says, y'all wild. Why are they in a bar? It's season. We're in the season. They shouldn't be out drinking. This is consuming. Doing burpees or. Maybe they're having sarsaparilla. I don't think so. I don't think so. I think they're having beers. Water, tea, coffee. They shouldn't be drinking coffee either. Unless it's.
01:02:39
Speaker
Maybe that's a really good food. Maybe they should only be eating protein shakes. Maybe it's maybe it's a protein shake bar. Oh, okay. That's a plausible, that's a plausible. Now we're, now we're, now we're cooking, I guess. Cause all the protein shakes. Well, yes. Uh, against all odds, we managed to record another episode. Pretty amazing.
01:03:05
Speaker
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01:03:21
Speaker
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Roll on, Columbia Roll on. Roll on, Columbia Roll on. Your power is turning our darkness to dawn. Roll on, Columbia Roll on.
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We love you. Let's win another one!