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We react and take calls following the Seattle Sounders' MLS Matchday 5 fixture at Minnesota United FC.
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Introduction and Live Streaming Info
00:00:00
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00:00:22
Speaker
Well sir, we got a scorcher today. Gonna be a real scorcher today. Why the scorcher today? Well it's gonna be scorcher.
00:00:44
Speaker
What's going on, everybody?
MLS Match Day Five: Seattle vs. Minnesota
00:00:46
Speaker
Welcome to your post-match live for match day five in MLS. The Seattle Sounders just took a little trip to Allianz Field to battle Minnesota United, and it's a 0-0 draw in the press conference. It looks like it's actually about to get started shortly. I see Kevin on my screen, so we're going to be firing that up in just a few minutes here, and then we're going to be reacting to the result.
00:01:10
Speaker
Taking some calls. And yeah, I don't know if you guys even want to call in after that game. It was not the greatest game that I've ever seen, but we react to all of them regardless of the result. So yeah, I'm just waiting for the presser to get going here. They're talking in my ear. so trying to figure out what's going on with that. Okay. It looks like we are still a few minutes out. So we'll see what players they bring in. And we will hear from Schmetz as well in just a couple of minutes. I think Ari will take more calls than the Sounders took shots.
00:01:38
Speaker
Probably.
Seattle Sounders' Challenges and Strategies
00:01:40
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. ah And i guess I guess we can start there while we wait for this presser to get going, which is that, you know, ah i was not necessarily expecting the most exciting game of all time today.
00:01:54
Speaker
The squad is running on admittedly not a lot of fuel. They're rotating. They've got bigger fish to fry right now with CONCACAF Champions Cup. So, you know, Noah and I talked when we were previewing this about the possibility of get back.
00:02:06
Speaker
And he was saying he really felt like the squad would be juiced for this game. I was saying that I would agree if it was under normal circumstances. But with the rotation in the fuel tank being what it is, I could see it being more of a slog. And I do think it ended up being more of a slog. There were chances in this game.
00:02:25
Speaker
There were, i thought, Georgie created two of them in the first half. He had the one where it was a little cutback to Christian. Christian's shot at the top of the but area went off the bar, right? And then I think he had in one more chance in the first half. And then in the second half, he had a shot that was technically on target. So,
00:02:48
Speaker
That was something I thought. let's let's Let's go through the positives, I guess. I thought Petkovic was dishing some dimes. That was good. Yeah, Georgie, couple chances. ah jordan morris played Jordan Morris played soccer, so that was good to see.
00:03:05
Speaker
He didn't really get a chance to do all that much, but it was good to see him out there running around. I liked that.
Player Injuries and Substitutions
00:03:10
Speaker
ah I would say the biggest negative from this game is there was another center back injury, which is exactly, of course, what this team needs right now is another center back injury. Alex Roldan goes out of the game within the first 20 minutes or so. It looks like he was pointing at his hip or his thigh or something. So we'll see. Well, well I'm sure Schmetz will get asked about it. We'll see what the severity is there. But honestly, him early subbing at all is, I mean, that's that's not good.
00:03:39
Speaker
That's not what you want. So shout out to Jackson Reagan, I guess, for, you know, coming into the office on his day off. It's supposed to be his day off. I saw the lineup and I was like, oh, OK, they're actually rotating Jackson out.
00:03:52
Speaker
They don't usually do that. The Tino-Alex-CB duo. I like that. Give Jackson give jackson a break. His break lasted all of 20 minutes before he had to go into the game. And he's he's playing incredible right now, honestly. I think if if we're shouting out anybody after that, I guess it would be the defense. And Jackson was a huge part of that once again.
00:04:14
Speaker
So we'll see what happens with Alex. he He did try and stay in the game initially. So I was hopeful that maybe that was an indicator that...
00:04:27
Speaker
Him subbing off was more precautionary than anything. They need him for the CCC series, obviously. So I'm hoping right now, hoping right now that that was the case. But, up okay, we got Noah. We got Noah tapping in. Noah tapping in.
00:04:44
Speaker
What up, man? It looks like you're outside. It's a beautiful day out there. I'm in i'm in here streaming, and you're out there in nature. ah What's up, man? What'd you think?
Minnesota United's Playing Style Critique
00:04:53
Speaker
Zero-zero at Minnesota. Riveting stuff.
00:04:55
Speaker
yeah you know i had to i literally had to take a walk because i was like i can't i need to i need to walk off what i just watched um an incredible haram ball performance by minnesota united going back to frankly what they've always been the best at which is i was getting as i almost get hit by a car right here don't worry guys live on stream in the uh in the first half i was like there's no way this is And there's no way they're pulling this back out again. And they were talking about it on the broadcast. And they were like, well, if you think about it, they just got slammed on six zero in Vancouver. So in response to that, you really have to just go back to full on Ramsey-ing it, I guess. I guess. I guess. that like Well, it's so funny because right then when James comes on, they're like, oh, no, actually, we're going to just play beautiful attacking football again.
00:05:39
Speaker
So just play like that then. Like, just play like that. I don't understand. Yeah, I thought Homes, he generated two big chances. I thought he actually... he generated two big chances. I mean, i won't I will say he's not as good as Snyder Brunel, like, in any any measurable category. But, like, you know, what are you going to do? Like, Homes, Rodri... I jokingly posted, um and this was my fault for making a joke on Blue Sky. I jokingly posted, who's this James guy?
00:06:05
Speaker
And people were like, this is a Colombian international legend. like, Brian, I know who he is, guys. I know he is, guys. It's a bit. it's a bit Also, does my mic sound good does it sound bad? I think it actually sounds good. I was going to say. Oh, okay. Sick. Okay. Word. Yeah. Yeah. ah No, I mean, that was that that was unfortunate to see. I thought the whole thing with Minnesota was that ah their new coach was going to kind of try and keep the foundations of Ramsey ball, the counter and set piece, but maybe try and play with the ball a little more. I think at one point in the first half, the possession split was 80-20. And that's when I was like, okay, even Rick Ramsey had it 70-30. Like, come on, 80-20. Dude, even Rick Ramsey had the the respect of the game to at least try a couple of times. When I saw that, but I saw the back five lineup pop up on Apple TV, and I said –
00:06:58
Speaker
Here we go again. Here we go again. It's just embarrassing. And, you know, I had a lot of Minnesota United fans who keep coming in my comments all the time. They're like Noah, you're obsessed with Minnesota United. You're obsessed Minnesota. Yeah. Fuck, maybe war in maybe I am. Maybe I am. Not wrong. You know what? ah ah ah Maybe, maybe I'm the one out here trying to save your club. Maybe you should be thanking me.
00:07:21
Speaker
You know, because I'm out here trying to protect football. They're going to be yucking it up over that. That's fine. That is not a good result for them. So I'm just going to throw that out there. I'm also, I'm not going to crash out over it. i'm I'm zen. I'm achieving nirvana. I'm going to rise above nirvana.
00:07:38
Speaker
the tiltedness that I felt watching that. Look at look at this beautiful flower. Look at this. look at the few literally It's a beautiful day outside. There's flowers blooming and I'm not going to let the, the tactics of Minnesota United ruin my day to day.
00:07:54
Speaker
Like they did multiple times last year. I'm going to rise above it. You know, if they want to play like that at at home, that is their prerogative. That's not how I would, that's not how I personally would want my team to play at home. I would want my team to have the ball a little bit more. I would want them to be a little more proactive. I think in the second half, I was proud of them. They brought Hamas on and they, they got a couple of good chances. They, there's a little bit of footy played. So maybe that was a sign of progress. And we're just going to, we're just going to let them, let them have their zero zero home draw.
Seattle Sounders' Season Overview
00:08:23
Speaker
and uh keep it pushing bigger fish to fry concaf champions cup is coming up it's a road point so that's uh that's my cope that's my rational frankly this is frankly a good result like all things considered you have minnesota who's been like they they just got absolutely dumpster beat they like got taken behind the dumpster beat up kicked thrown embarrassed and we have to go there short-handed play them and we didn't get embarrassed like usually that wrath comes back out they they didn't even have that so honestly all things considered like you're saying i can cope and rationalize this is my coping rationalization but like dude if they have not a clean sheet one point fuck it let's go MLS is hard to play on the road we've been playing on the road
00:09:12
Speaker
If they had 1-1 or two twod this, i would be I would be sitting here saying that it was a good result. And I think it just doesn't feel like that because a nil-nil, especially one where it's a team that's mostly kind of sitting back and letting you have the ball and you feel like you should have got at least one or two. That is that is frustrating. But, you know, it's not actually – it's not technically – this is good comb. It's not technically a different result points-wise or standings-wise than it would have been if it had been a draw where they scored one or two.
00:09:39
Speaker
Right, right. So yeah that's, ah it's a road point, I guess, is a road point, which, you know, I feel like people do say that that is cope when it's a team that you feel like you should beat. So I recognize that it it most definitely is. But it it is also, you know, the team is three, one and one in league play to start the season while also playing in CCC. They won their CCC yeah series five, one on aggregate. So all things considered, not the worst worst place to
Press Conference Insights and Defensive Tactics
00:10:05
Speaker
be. it It would have been, it would have been,
00:10:07
Speaker
it would have been uh if they had like found a way to lose this at the end like say they score that hummus chance or whatever then i would probably be more towards the crash out end of the spectrum but but they did ah end up getting out of there with like you said another clean sheet and a road point they're doing well on the table right now ah ccc is more important anyway so that's how i'm trying to do rise rotated They rotated and the rotation looked good. Petkovic looked incredible. um Honestly, Ari, I have to give it to the the brigade. Rusnak did not have another good game. the brigade is cooking right now. We are on record. We are acknowledging. I've got to be honest with you. The brigade is actually on fire right now. This is a big few weeks for them. They're loving it. thought this was one of Albert's worst matches in the last, like, I don't know.
00:11:01
Speaker
through years. Like he just looked off. He just looked off. He's looked off the last couple weeks. The brigade going to try and tell you, this is how he always plays. That's, I don't think that that is true. I fight words i think the brigade, you know, it was bad.
00:11:13
Speaker
I mean, like the his last two, three games have not been, ah not been his best, but you know, this is still a guy that has had a ton of goal contributions for this club. He's had a lot of good games too. I'm not going to disavow anyone for,
00:11:30
Speaker
One Lolan form. But anyway, anyway we we we just said the brigade's cooking, right? right so No, they're cooking. That's out the way. And you know who else is cooking? You know who else is cooking? Petkovic.
00:11:41
Speaker
What was... what were what Listen, I personally, i am a big fan of but bill I like Charlotte. I like their club. What was their team doing?
00:11:55
Speaker
How were they not playing this guy? He looks insane. And they're like, yeah, how about you just go sit on Crown Legacy? So usually when you have Usually when you have a player that has as much pedigree and was bought ah for as much money as he was, and then he's not, he never breaks into the rotation and then they loan him out like this.
00:12:15
Speaker
i feel like in that situation, it's usually because they're, they're not, they're all around game is they're not happy with where the all around game is, you know? Sure. i my my mine he was Well, that's what i'm saying. That's what I'm saying. like don't get it.
00:12:31
Speaker
That's what I'm saying. Like, I think they might have, they he might've fallen out of favor with them because he was not I'm just speculating here, but sure sure they might he might, they might, they're coaching, their coaching staff might've been like, Oh, this, Oh, wait, wait.
00:12:45
Speaker
Sorry guys. Stop it. Oh, presser. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, I'll just fill time here while Ari continues to listen to what the presser is saying. Because it's hard to, guys, with you don't understand. We're like live masters here. when we When we put the headphones in and you can hear the presser, like them yapping, it's hard to...
00:13:03
Speaker
Yeah, that's where I'm at. that's That's where I'm at right now. But it sounds like they're going to get the guys in there in a couple minutes here. So we'll have the presser pressers starting shortly. yeah ah Anyway, yeah, I imagine that he fell out of favor at Charlotte FC for those types of reasons. And part of the deal with him coming here was they were like, you need to lock in on that stuff maybe. And so he's taken that to that's a nice flower. He's taken that to heart so far, but i agree. i thought if yeah if we're doing if we're doing positives and negatives, I thought Pekovic was a positive again. and he he's i think he's positive I think we can say he's been a positive so far this season. I certainly, I've been talking a lot about how I was trying to, okay, okay hold on.
00:13:48
Speaker
Okay. Thank you both very much for your time. we appreciate it. We're going to get going there right to questions. Reminder for media, you have a question for either Andrew or Kalani, please go ahead and hit that raise hand function button for us. We're going start with Jeremiah O'Shane. Jeremiah, go ahead, please.
00:14:03
Speaker
Yeah, Andrew, ah this team has now posted shutouts, I believe, in five of seven games overall. ah it It seems like something's working defensively. What would you say that is?
00:14:18
Speaker
I think the biggest thing is that we have played with the desire to battle each other out when there are all individual mistakes during in the game. You know, there's no game is going to be perfect defensively, but the effort that all 11 guys on the field have put in to bail other people out in a moment where something goes wrong has been, has been awesome. And that's put us in a good position to make plays and keep clean sheets and, you know, keep a clean sheet, you guarantee the point. So as much as, you would like more today, walking away with something this is, is,
00:14:50
Speaker
chat say hi they're they're loving scorcher plans to that point i think that you know you can see it oh what's up dude what's up covering and jackson about the one that i uh came out misjudged and um it's you know things like that which if they go wrong they could go really wrong but the hustle gives us comment all right next question we'll go over to jada evans jada go ahead and ask your question please
00:15:16
Speaker
Thanks. um Yeah, Andrew, I wanted to ask a little bit more about that one. this but and So it was a misjudge. and but yeah, i can you kind of think go through what you were thinking that you might be able to do on that one?
00:15:30
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, it was the field, despite it being called kind of dragged out to a plug more than I but thought it was going to kind of stick him through and warm up a bit more. And so, you know, i thought that he had a yard on our center backs and I thought that, you know, he's going to all the way through on goal.
00:15:50
Speaker
to make a save, like i said, people people recovering. Guy was, he didn't get an easy look. And so, no harm not foul to get on the line from without conceding a goal.
00:16:02
Speaker
And then Kalani, can you kind of talk a little bit just about what you guys were facing? And I know you're more so in the defensive end, but still, you know, what you guys, the struggles that you guys were kind of having in the attack and breaking their line.
00:16:16
Speaker
Yeah, um I mean, I feel like it's pretty obvious. they they came to kind of park the bus and, and sit back and they've been doing that to us for the past year. So, um, it wasn't necessarily anything new for us, but it, it wasn't very, i mean, the way, the way they do it, it's very effective. They just kind of bunker in and defend and they're, they're good. They're good counter attack team. So as soon as, as soon as one of us makes a mistake and, and a big touch, we lose a ball. They're all ready to go forward.
00:16:46
Speaker
Um, and so I think that, that, our active defending was good today and and i think that was part of the reason why we did get a point. but it could have been a little bit better. And um and then in terms of the attacking attacking side of it, I think it's it's really hard when teams really bunker in like that. And we almost have too much time on the ball sometimes.
00:17:09
Speaker
And we have a lot of players who good at getting in behind. And we're good at those speed ups when it goes through to either nine or a 10 and then back in and then Christian or nico or snyder whoever's underneath is able to play a through ball and we weren't really able to do that that much because we didn't have as much space in behind and we were facing them on their own on their own 18. so um it it just made it really hard because the gaps were really small there was a lot of tight spaces in there and once it did get close to their box they they stepped really hard so um i mean if if they were playing for a tie then then they did very well but yeah i think we can be a little bit better in that attacking third
00:17:54
Speaker
All right, reminder to media, if you have any first-time questions, go ahead hit that raise hand function button for us. Otherwise, we'll keep things pretty tight today. Jeremiah, I see your follow-up. Go ahead and ask, please. Yeah, Kalani, it seems like you guys have just been you know much tighter defensively on the road this year. is there Has that been a particular focus, especially on the road, or has there been sort of more of a focus on just you know ah maybe not being as expansive early on in the season where you guys have all these road games stacked up?
00:18:27
Speaker
I mean, i think I think to what Andrew said, i think there's ah a very good and defensive mentality within our group right now. um And last year, we were really good at we kind of embraced that next man up idea. And I think this year we're and in the beginning of the year. We're also kind of feeling that, especially with all these road games and all these games within three or four days of each other.
00:18:55
Speaker
um People like, I mean, you saw today, Alex goes down, Jackson was supposed to rest most of the game today, but Alex goes down, Jackson has to come in chino's in there. Um, I'm in there. good defensively, like Andrew working for each other and we know that as soon as one person goes down the next person's goingnna step up and and do his best job, whether it's goal line clearances, whether it's those, the one that Andrew talked about, or whether it's just closing down the little lines and making them go backwards. And I think that's what we've been really good at. We've been really good at staying tight, staying close together, not letting the gaps the gaps fill up. And then when we do get broken, somebody is recovering for whoever got beat, however that is. And um as defenders, like our job is is just to defend. And we we're playing some against against some of the best forwards and wingers and and strikers. um
00:19:51
Speaker
in the league, sometimes in the world. And so we're going to get beat. Like, we know that. We all know that, that we're going to get beat at times. But it's not that that's not what's really important. It's important is who's going who's going to recover and and do the work for the person that does get beat.
00:20:07
Speaker
All right. Next question. We'll go to Kasim Ali. Kasim, go ahead, please. Hey guys, so Kalani, like you said, you guys have had a lot of games, a lot of fixture congestion. You get a bit of a break here from games. What's kind of your guys' priority in making the best use of that time?
Player Recovery and Mental Health
00:20:24
Speaker
I mean, i think I think we're all tired. It's been a long stretch. um So for all of us, it's just to relax a little bit. um I don't think it's anything too crazy. we We know this comes with a job. So we get a couple days off to to recover, regroup, get in a good mental space, and then we'll be ready to go get back at it.
00:20:47
Speaker
All right, Jada, back to you, please, for your follow-up. Thanks. ah Andrew, you've talked before about liking a hostile crowd. They got on you um from the first touch, it seemed. Can you talk a little bit about about that that aspect and and the environment for you?
00:21:04
Speaker
I mean, I enjoy it. Let them boo. them hackle however they want to hackle. You know, in moments like that, it's it's ah it's fun to think that at the end of the day, that that's what's us play soccer. So, yeah you know, whatever's said is is a is not really going to get too far into my skin. All right, Jeremiah, are you good or do you have one more follow-up?
00:21:31
Speaker
you know I may as well ask, Andrew, did did you get any creative ah insults out there? No. They like lacked creativity, honestly. It was a lot of, like, yeah. Not all the fans of my mustache, apparently. Yeah, that was about it.
00:21:49
Speaker
I think it was just that one repeat and then a bunch of boos, which, you know, I thought was. Okay. Guys, thank you both very much for your time. We'll leave it there. Safe travels on.
00:22:03
Speaker
reset death How are you how you not a fan of a mustache? Their their their heckling was really not creative at all. I didn't really hear much of it. I just heard him getting booed lot. Okay, I'm going to make sure that's muted.
00:22:20
Speaker
Sorry, I keep getting... good dude it's so hard but this is what i encounter every time i'm i'm like running the post game press like you literally can't hear yourself think because it's just like ipad fully into your headphones but guys that was really funny i was just walking and i got stopped by two kids in the car and one of them is a u16 for the sounders academy and he's like bro are you loving scorchers so that was a whole funny thing anyway hi bro as long as like it's okay with you Sure.
00:22:51
Speaker
Okay, Jeremiah, why don't you lead us off? So I know you've talked a lot about getting back to sort of defensive principles this year. i think that's five shutouts in seven games. I have to imagine that as much as you wanted to win this one, ah you take some pride in and just keeping a zero.
00:23:11
Speaker
Sure. I mean, winning on the road starts with getting a clean sheet, keeping a clean sheet, being good defensively. So we have that half of the equation correct.
00:23:23
Speaker
ah So points, points a point. We're not going to complain about it, but certainly we wish we would have been a little bit more goal dangerous on the other side of the field.
00:23:36
Speaker
All right, Jada, over to you, please. Thanks. and I'm a two-parter for you, Brian. First is ah Alex. Is that any, do you so far think that that's going to be anything long-term?
00:23:49
Speaker
Nope. He just got a hip pointer. And so he should be fine. But, you know, we'll assess him when we're back in Seattle. But it's not not like a pulled muscle, pulled Roy, nothing like that.
00:24:02
Speaker
And then as far as, like you said, on the on the attacking side of the ball, I mean, they definitely, again, park the bus on y'all. it's there Are you seeing at least a little bit of maybe an improvement in the way that your team is trying to break through when when the when that does happen to you? Or um is that still something that you guys need to to work on to to break that?
00:24:24
Speaker
Well, it wasn't for a lack of effort. I'll start with that. And, then and you know, Jada, it's just small little moments in games like this. And, you know, we put a lot of emphasis on the defending of set pieces. And I think I got to little bit more work on the attacking set pieces, because in games like this, you can have one set piece that kind of unlocks something for you.
00:24:46
Speaker
you know that's obviously how they play you know they're they they park the bus and they wait for long throw-ins and set pieces and you know it does put pressure on other teams so you know i'm gonna i'm gonna take a look at some of the attacking set pieces that we do and then secondarily you know the the fine margins in the sport so on the first half You know, Nikola plays an excellent ball to Georgie.
00:25:12
Speaker
Georgie plays the ball across the middle, and Drake gets the – Calendar gets his hand on the ball, you know, just before Osaze gets there. Now, you could say that's a great save, or you could say maybe Osaze should have ran to the near post for the tap in.
00:25:27
Speaker
You know, that was that was probably our best chance in the first half. Then in the second half, you know, I thought we got in the ball into the prime assist zone a few times, but, you know, the final delivery wasn't good.
00:25:39
Speaker
You know, I thought we could shut we we we should we needed more shots from distance. You know, sometimes when a team is backed up like that, if you start shooting from a little bit further out, they have to step out to try and, you know, block shots and stuff like that. So there's a few things that we'll take from this game and try and work on in the break in between now and our next match at Houston.
00:26:04
Speaker
All right, we'll go to Kasim next. Kasim, go ahead, please, with your question. Hey, Coach, you talked about set pieces. There were a fair amount of deep throw-ins, some free kicks. What did you think about how you guys kind of um conceded in that regard, or do you think you guys did pretty well in limiting those chances that, like you said, Minnesota kind of builds their game around?
00:26:27
Speaker
Well, we didn't concede a goal. We certainly conceded a fair number of them. But I thought our set piece defending was good. I mean, we weren't a tall team today. I mean, Jackson coming in, certainly for Alex, made us a little bit taller. But, you know, we didn't have a Yimar, you know, so it's it's challenging sometimes. But, you think we did well.
00:26:53
Speaker
Jeremiah, back to you. ah Yeah, Nikola Pekovic got another start this one. what did you you know You mentioned that pass that he made. Overall, what did you make of his good performance?
Pekovic’s Impact and Minnesota Critique
00:27:05
Speaker
Excellent. this was ah This was an excellent performance for the kid. He's got to build his confidence.
00:27:11
Speaker
ah you know He got tackled pretty hard in the second half. I wanted to change the dynamic a little bit. was It wasn't because he was playing poorly that i took him off, you know just trying to change ah the way the game was being played.
00:27:24
Speaker
But he's he showed promise. I mean, again, that ball he lays into Georgie was excellent.
00:27:31
Speaker
All right, Kasim, back to you. Yeah, so another massive play by Tino late, you know, getting back, helping out Andrew. Andrew kind of talked about in this streak of shutouts, it's been important for guys to cover for each other. What do you think about how the team is kind of playing for each other in that regard? And then especially like ah highlighting Antino's play.
00:27:51
Speaker
And Tino again, yeah he's going to get a lot of credit for that goal line clearance again, but he's doing all little things right. Overall, the team is very connected.
00:28:01
Speaker
They always fight for each other. I think that's one of the calling cards of this particular group. You know, even last year, you know, Christian said it was the tightest group that he's been around.
00:28:12
Speaker
So they all work for each other. They all fight for each other. I think that's a tremendous quality to have within that, within the team. ah And yeah, if Andrew believes it and Tino believes it and Jackson believes it and Christian believes it and Alex believes it, knew who believes it, then, you know, you got a strong team.
00:28:34
Speaker
All right, Jeremiah, why don't you take us home? You know honestly, don't I don't think I have anything else. All right, with that, Coach, safe travels. Thank you, everybody. Thanks, all.
00:28:49
Speaker
Wow. Thank you. All right, there there you have it. Jeremiah fumbling last question there. he should have asked what coach's favorite color was or something. There you have it from KKR, Andrew Thomas, and ah Brian Schmetzer.
00:29:03
Speaker
Why am I hearing this echo again? Okay, that's why. Sorry. Okay. There you hear it from ah KKR, Andrew Thomas, and b Brian Schmetzer. ah Notable stuff from the pressers. I thought i thought you could tell from ah a couple of Kalani's answers that there there there's some tiltedness going on about how Minnesota United plays them every time. I was laughing when he said they've been doing that exact same thing to us for the last year. And if they were playing for a tie, then they did great.
00:29:30
Speaker
yeah that's that that like that dude that's blazing hot press conference is just that yeah yeah that's uh which that's how i am uh i'm kind of thinking of it is it's like you know you want to play for the zero zero at home i guess being like yeah if that's what you want like it's it's absolutely embarrassing like i think that's the thing that minnesota united fans don't understand is like You're actually, your team's actually like really embarrassing. You're playing like it's the second leg of a match that you're up on and you're playing away. That's what I was thinking. It's not real. So you can't win trophies like that. You don't get penalties at the end of a regular season game.
00:30:13
Speaker
No, you don't get penalties. They were playing for penalties. They were playing for penalties. And they were playing what they were doing was they were playing for penalties, and then their actual true idea was like, o we're going to get James in for 20 minutes. And guys, you don't understand. It's James Rodriguez. And he's going to work some math. Brother, he's 75 years old. He almost did. He made a couple of, listen, he made a couple of fine plays. They were fine. They were fine. All right. I'm not going to, I'm not going to sit here and say they were good. I got to turn around. This road is loud as hell.
00:30:45
Speaker
gonna say they're fine but it's like dude what the hell are you what are you doing so i'm not gonna continue to win games like that i think and that's on your point i think keith cost and marissa do had it right like they were spooked by what happened when they were trying to play footy in vancouver they got six owed so they got back to the basics and for them the basics is ramsey ball so embarrassing again ramsey You know, you can kill you can kill the man, yeah but you can't kill the idea. okay You can take the club out of Rick Ramsey, but you can't take the Rick Ramsey out of the club.
00:31:21
Speaker
It's true. and And it does. And, you know, other than... oh guys, wait, I'm sorry. I got to show these flowers, too. We got some some new new color unlocked. Look at that.
00:31:32
Speaker
nice um Anyway, i i want I want to talk to you about Georgi, Ari. Sure. I think I might make some people unhappy with this. I don't know if get it. don't know if I get it.
00:31:46
Speaker
You know, I don't think he played terribly. i thought he set up the two best chances that Seattle had. and He did. He did. But I i just, i don't i don't I don't get it. And you know what?
00:31:56
Speaker
I'm here to have my mind changed always. But i just i just don't I just don't know if I get it. Because here's why. This team looks one billion times better with Jesus Ferreira on the field.
00:32:12
Speaker
because of his distribution paul rothrock sliding into that position he just doesn't have the distribution that's as good as you know as jesus frankly you're playing with two tens in a way and it's just like i can't i i can't i can't i don't see it i don't get it and and i'm i'm here to have my mind changed though frankly uh i mean I didn't think it was like the greatest Georgie game, but I think what you did see with the chances that he did generate when he's getting to that end line and putting service into the box, that can be a dangerous attribute. And I mean, like, would you feel differently if Drake Callender doesn't get a fingertip to that ball and Osaze has a tap-in? I mean, because that was that was they're probably their best chance of the game, and he was, you know, integral. I i hear it. I hear it. I hear it. I still...
00:33:03
Speaker
That's it, you know, i still don't know if I love it. Like, I think there is still just, there's still some rawness. Maybe he just needs to play more. I don't know why. I don't know why. There's just this, I have this feeling, Ari. It's vibes-based. It's not actually, like, based in some reality. I'm just, I'm just, I'm waiting for the vibes to hit. know what I mean? So maybe you're right. Maybe if he would have scored that, like. Yeah. We did just watch a game where they got shut out by Minnesota United again. So I think it's natural to look at the offense and, you know, want to cast blame and stuff. I felt like there was at least chances in the game. wasn't one of those. I see a kid with an inner Miami kid on right now.
00:33:42
Speaker
Oh, ohm my God. Literally. I'm going to take it. can you Can you still hear me like this? Yeah, I can hear you great. I can hear you oh great. I'm hearing echoes in my headphones again for some reason, and I have absolutely no idea why, so I'm going to roll like this.
00:33:56
Speaker
Yeah, no, that's cool. pink cook Cook for a second, though, because I need to change my... Yeah, no, I i think if someone said go tag, I'm not going to tackle a child, guys. This is not going to happen. But, ah you know, I want to say Jordan Morris looked jordan morris looked phenomenal.
00:34:14
Speaker
Jordan Morris looked like he's ready to play that nine position. I don't That's what I got. I literally am grasping at straws to find stuff to talk about for this game because it's such we've been playing on the road for so long. We've been fighting for our lives. It looked like a team that's played eight games in the last 11 days at times. feel like Minnesota playing like that like...
00:34:39
Speaker
inter miami play or not god sorry ah minnesota playing like that was just like That's your problem. That's, that's, that's what I took from this game. oh Oh, it looks like we've got a crash out red card for the Portland Timbs. You hate to see it for the Portland Timbs. What's going on in that game. I have not been paying attention at all. They are up one zero on the LA galaxy. Oh, I might have to, uh, uh, that's nice little two bad teams going at it situation. Uh, Kamal Miller, 20th minute red card. So the Timbs have to survive the rest of the game against the, uh, the galaxy. Yeah.
00:35:11
Speaker
down to 10. So that's, calls I mean, listen, I I'll, I'll let you take calls. I literally, i want to I want, this is my final take on the whole thing. thing This game means nothing to me, i will not be thinking about this game in a week and a half. We're in CONCACAF Champions Cup, it wasn't the best performance I've ever seen in my life, but also we didn't concede a goal. Tino Lopez looks good, Jesus Ferreira just continues to cement his importance on this club. And, um you know, I i think that Petkovic earned himself some more minutes today. That's literally all that I took from this game. We got a road point, we're going home, and Jordan Morris played, and Schmetz did say there that Alex rolled on. it's He doesn't think. fine he said it He said it was a hip pointer, which means yeah you know it's not a muscle pull or like it wasn't like his hammy or anything like that. So that was good. Yeah.
00:36:00
Speaker
I don't know. this is This is probably the worst content ever, guys. I literally i took the walk because I thought that was better content than this game. like it's just you know we do we It is what it is. We do this for every single game, so not all of them are going to be the most exciting. Yeah.
00:36:13
Speaker
games of footy that we've ever seen. And this falls into that category. Bigger fish to fry anyway right now with CCC. So if there wasn't CCC going on, I might even feel differently about it. But I mean, yeah you got it. You got Tigris coming up, man. So if you got to grind out a road point against the Ramsey ballers,
00:36:32
Speaker
Do it up. look What is that? um Okay. Man, it's looking like a nice day in the neighborhood. I'm going to have to go outside after this. Yeah, you should go outside. All right. so well we got i don't know how to I don't know how to work this thing, dude. I'm out of here. Bye, chat. So, you know, all right, we got our, ah our cue working. We have Jordan Gianni and James, our star leadoff hitter. Let's get Jordan on stage right now.
00:36:57
Speaker
Jordan, what's up, man? Zero, zero against the Ramsey ballers point on the road, but no goals scored. What'd you think? How you feeling? Uh, That man, I'm supposed to be watching that game. It got, it's just, it was just so boring watching this, this team play at home.
00:37:15
Speaker
Like, ah listen, uh, I understand. And like when you're the underdog and it's the team that's like way better than you. you've got to play defensively.
00:37:28
Speaker
You just got six. Oh, you got six. zoneri Normally you put like that on the road, not at home. Not with a team that you believe you're better than because that's at this point, you know, if the the MVP was a post last season. And so now they think they're the best team there is And it was just, man, it's just so boring. I mean, there's not much to, I mean, the defense,
00:37:55
Speaker
The defense on the, our defense on the road did really good. Tino again, proving his worth a hundred percent. Pekovic looked decent ah in that probably what we're going to call that like number eight.
00:38:12
Speaker
He wasn't really playing like Christian. So I would call it the eight position. um
00:38:18
Speaker
And Jordan Morris, it's good to see him back. I mean, I would have liked to see the team take more shots outside the box specifically if you're playing a five at the back.
00:38:30
Speaker
Yeah, like it, it, we, I mean, look at last year when we played these guys last year, they played five at the back game two was one off of two long shots, like, or a long shot and a counter attack where you just pump the ball over the top.
00:38:45
Speaker
So, one thing that they what thing One thing they did last year that they didn't do this time was deploy Moose. And Moose wasn't even in the match day squad today, if I'm not mistaken. I i've kind of forgot about that. But like i I felt like, yeah I know you need to get Jordan back, but Moose was also banging in goals against these guys last year. So maybe it could have been a Moose situation. But I don't know. he wasn't I don't think he was with the team. So maybe we'll find out. some reasons i' I mean, even past that, like,
00:39:17
Speaker
There were so many times where the ball falls to like, Rodan at the top of the box or ah like KKR. And it's, even if it's on their weaker foot, they move it to their strong foot, but then just pass it. Like, just take, pop a shot.
00:39:34
Speaker
If you pop a shot, you never know what's going to happen. ah point on the road is great, especially with, you know, we haven't seen home in like, 37 years at this point even even a home game was played away from home so you probably were not gonna take a w every single edition of the road show realistically so it's about minimize it's about minimizing the l's i think coming out of it so in that way i think it's i think the result is fine it's it's just unfortunate to get trolled and ramsey balled once again and the yeah even the dog is mad about it So can understand that. It was genuinely like... Oh, yeah. moosea sorry Moose is traveling for North Macedonia. Okay, thank you. I knew there was some reason. I was like, wait a minute.
00:40:19
Speaker
Where was Moose? This would have been it. I saw five at the back and I was just thinking like, this can't be a thing again, bro. can't be a thing. And then the game started and I felt like I was getting PTSD. I was like, there's no way.
00:40:31
Speaker
There's no way. it It once again proves that like the mentality of a small club where you have this rivalry... where we're getting fucked Seattle and players are getting booed horribly.
00:40:44
Speaker
And tomorrow morning, I'm not going to care about Minnesota until we play them next. Like it's just, it is just that how, that's how it is to to them. We are, we there for some reason is a rivalry between Minnesota and Seattle.
00:40:58
Speaker
I couldn't give a shit. i Like at least if you want to make a rivalry, at least make it entertaining and you don't make it entertaining. So listen, you know,
00:41:09
Speaker
the nice thing is, you know, came out to one win, uh, in CCC still in that competition. Didn't, you know, guess drop points, but a point on the road is better than nothing at all.
00:41:26
Speaker
Yeah. no that's that's Get a couple of days off, get some rest, know, recharge, recalibrate, lock back in. And then hopefully, ah Well, Rodon will probably go on international duty. New who probably Georgie maybe. be Like hopefully we get onto the other side of this international window. Everyone's healthy and we go again. CCC is calling.
00:41:50
Speaker
Amen to that. All right, Jordan, any last thoughts you wanted to get out there or after the day? Minnesota will never be relevant ever. All right. Thank you for the call as always, man. Great stuff. And we'll catch you on the next one.
00:42:05
Speaker
All right. We got Gianni. We got James and we got Caleb and then no one after that. So if you want to lay down some takes, feel free to tap in, but let's get Gianni on the stage right now. There he is. He is looking absolutely thrilled about what we just witnessed at Allianz field. Gianni zero, zero draw.
00:42:20
Speaker
The squad got Ramsey balled once again, even though it was the spirit of Rick Ramsey taking over Allianz field today. He left a legacy and the Sounders get a point, but zero goals. What'd you see? What'd you think? All I know is that ah football terrorism is alive and well in Minnesota. Like I just, they did they were doing it again. They were doing it again. Yeah. Like just straight five in the back seat, all possession, try and hit on a counter and get a throw in or a set piece. And I mean,
00:42:49
Speaker
I don't know what else to expect at this point. it's like, oh, we've, they've got a new coach. Vancouver hung six on them. Oh yeah. Yeah. Maybe this will be an entertaining game. It's like, oh, maybe I should have just taken, and taken a nap. Cause that was not. I think them getting six owed by Vancouver was the worst thing that could have possibly happened to Seattle because they, they came into this game terrified of that happening yeah again, and because Vancouver six owed them and Seattle just beat Vancouver in CCC. So, you know, yeah. They probably look at it and we're like, all right, we got to we gotta to hunker down, boys. We got to get in the trenches and make sure that we don't get 6-0 in our home field. And if it means zero zeroing on our home field, then that's what we're going to do. and Yeah, they're like, well, at least we'll get a point out of it.
00:43:28
Speaker
Which, but like, I really, i like to and cowards play well I told myself I was going to rise above it, but I will say, I will say for a team that is now one, two and two with a negative seven goal differential 11th in the West, you're averaging a cool one point per game and you arguably have not played even that well performance wise. yeah What does a zero zero point at home get you?
00:43:53
Speaker
Nothing. That's actually an actively bad result. I'm just saying, I'm just saying. oh I mean, so just sitting there bunkering, like, what are you learning about your offense? What are you learning about how your team can break down another team? Like if you're just going to sit back and bunker in and try and counter, it's like, okay, you just aren't playing with tactics then.
00:44:12
Speaker
You don't have any idea of how to play with the ball and you're not giving your team the opportunity to do so. And sure you have an integrated Hamas into your squad, but don't you want your team like actually playing or do you just want to sit back and be like, Oh, we'll take this tie. And you know what? We'll kick the can on down the road.
00:44:30
Speaker
Maybe use that international break to try and figure out how to actually play soccer. that That team is... I wish it didn't trigger me as much as it does because it's what that's what they want.
00:44:41
Speaker
that's what that's the that We give them the reactions that they're going for when these games play out like this, but it's so hard to not look at it and be like... Come on. Come on. Like, let's let's do some battle here. Let's play a game. about a little game going on? And they just won't do it. They won't give that to Seattle or give that to us. So I guess we just have to accept that that's how it's going to go, because if they do that at home, they'll do they'll do that anywhere.
00:45:07
Speaker
They're not above it. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. Like if they come into Seattle, if they go to LAFC, it's like, you can just, you can all already just like mark that off of games to watch. It's like, Oh, Minnesota is playing against a good team. Nah, I don't need to watch that. I already know where I'm going to go.
00:45:22
Speaker
And it's unfortunate because i think that Seattle probably could have broken them down and we would have had maybe some better opportunities if they Moose had been there because this is kind of the the game that he thrives in.
00:45:36
Speaker
Like he will be able to find that half space and he will be able to get service because we're going to control so much of the ball. And it's just unfortunate what the international window falls when it does because this This would have been his game. And it was nice seeing Jordan out there. And it's like, it's great to see him stretch out his legs and get on the end of that ball that I was pretty sure was just going to go out of bounds.
00:45:57
Speaker
But in the end, this is also just not necessarily going to be the game for him because if he's going to, like, one of the best things he can do is run him behind. and you're not going to do There's not going to be any space to run him behind because they're going to have their defenders between their penalty spot and their six. Yeah.
00:46:11
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. No, I agree with that. I'm down to perpetuate the narrative that the outcome would have been different if ah if Moose was there. You're lucky. You're lucky, Minnesota, that Danny Mussovsky was not in the mix today. Otherwise, that would have been a different story. But ah anyway, what what else did you see, Gianni? You have like Georgie thoughts, Petkovich thoughts? Yeah.
00:46:32
Speaker
Georgia's fine. Like he's, he just doesn't seem like he's grown as much as, as I think we all would have liked to have seen him over the past off season and coming into the season. He's still pretty raw.
00:46:45
Speaker
he can beat some people, but it's just, he's a bench player. Yeah, you know, I think... He's good for a change of pace. I don't know that I really want to see Georgie starting, though. Right. I think as it stands right now, I would agree that, like, super subs probably is best role. I mean, especially on this team with this depth chart. i I do think there is value in what he can provide as far as, like, he won a couple of those 1v1s and he put in some good service. I mean, that that one that he put to Osaze was... That was a genuinely good chance, think. Yeah. That was a genuinely good chance. I just...
00:47:20
Speaker
I would like to see a little more of that because yeah you do get like the one-off kind of moments from Georgie. The consistency is just not there. And I think honestly, the thing is if the consistency was there, he might not just be on this team anymore.
00:47:36
Speaker
Right. Because of physical attributes are so apparent. Yeah. The physical attributes are there. I thought Pekka looked good. ah He put it in a pretty nice ball.
00:47:50
Speaker
Oh man, he put pretty nice through ball early in the game. Um, I do kind of have some concerns about the way Albert's been playing though. Like I don't want to dish it. dish it We already acknowledged the brigade's been cooking, but yeah, yeah the brigade brigade's been cooking. Holy fuck. Does he like, he's just kind of gone missing in a couple of these games, like the past three in a row.
00:48:12
Speaker
He's just, he's just not linking play. Like we really need him to be. um he'll He'll have like a moment or two every game, but it's just not consistent enough again. ah The set pieces, just, I kind of just don't want to see him on them anymore. Like I would have rather seen Pekovic take a couple of those because Pekovic does shape the ball really nicely.
00:48:37
Speaker
And honestly, if we continue to see this level of play from Albert, I'd kind of rather almost see Jesus Ferreira start than Albert at this point. you James is in the queue behind you and I think you remember but you might be stealing his thunder on on that one. Yeah. Sorry, James. Don't mean that like yeah i' don't mean to steal your thunder, but i mean like I'll set the stage for instead. Right, right. No, I mean, look, if ah if this continue if this run of form continues from Albert, maybe I'll i'll get there. For me, yeah like...
00:49:09
Speaker
I feel like his track record is is pretty good. you That's just me. That's just me. I know there's a, the brigade's out in full force right now. That's just me. But like, it has not been very good the last two, three games. I think there is a much larger sample of it being good. So I'm, I'm willing to like, give it time to get back to what I consider the mean, but you know, I don't think there's any denying that, uh,
00:49:33
Speaker
he hasn't He hasn't had his best two, three last games, and the the attack as a whole really hasn't either. so No, not really. I mean, like, Vancouver game aside, and even in those games, he wasn't necessarily the reason that we were putting those goals in.
00:49:50
Speaker
Right, yeah. I would agree with that, too. ah Gianni, anything else that you want to do a cook on before we ah move on in the queue here? Or, I mean, 0-0 at Minnesota. yeah we kind of We've kind of all been struggling. Yeah. Yeah, it's like not a lot of thoughts in my brain. i'm just I'm so locked in on CCC right now. like i i would I would have been very tilted if they had lost this game. So I would say them 0-0-ing it, there's mild tilt that always comes with a 0-0. But yeah overall...
00:50:20
Speaker
Thomas tried to give the game away. right Like, don't get me wrong. I am all for Thomas starting. I've wanted Thomas to start since last year. He went a little brain neutral when he came out for that ball and Tino had to bail him out. Yeah, he was saying something.
00:50:33
Speaker
He just, he said in the post game that he just, he either misjudged the trajectory or how far it was going or something. I can't remember exactly what he said, but he basically was saying that he misjudged it. And then, I mean, that did give the opportunity for Tino to make another really good play. So that he just still looks great. yeah I know that te he got caught um on an early play in the first half, but he recovered really well and took the right position for that ball. i Like, you know what? It's like making a mistake as a center back can be super costly.
00:51:06
Speaker
But if he's able to find a way back into the play and recover and make the stop, Like he's a young kid just like getting his second, as first start, but ah is it first start? No second. He started the, yeah, he started the San Jose game.
00:51:24
Speaker
That's right. Yeah. Making a second start. It's like, man, I can't, there's nothing to could complain about there. The kid looks great. um Yeah. And honestly, like,
00:51:37
Speaker
Minnesota booing Thomas that entire game was just such a small club mentality. It's like, jesus Christ, they hate us so much and we don't think about them at all. That like that, that they were starting the rain, the booze on him, like from minute one. and Yeah. Like he goes like what did you know like, why are they booing Thomas? I was like, Oh, that's right. He saved all the label all those goals. They won that shootout though. Like, are you still mad? are you doing? Like, I don't want like, are you pissed because he made some stops in a penalty shootout? Well, I think maybe he, during that shootout, he was doing his thing and he was kind of bantering with them. So I'm sure like, that's what it was, but like, I don't know. It's ah it's a PK shootout in the playoffs. Like, are you that mad that there was I mean, that's, you know, it's fine. If you want to yeah do that, he he was talking about how much he didn't care. He said they berated his mustache. So, I mean, what all them they they're also just objectively wrong then. So,
00:52:36
Speaker
Yeah, I think it's a great stash. What's wrong with the stash? I would like that but you would like that explained by the Wonderwall because I don't get it. I don't know. They need to grow up.
00:52:48
Speaker
like They're trying to make this a rivalry. It's just not going to be. And they just have to always remember that we put them out of the playoffs a few years back off of like three goals in five minutes or something.
00:52:59
Speaker
Yeah, that was that was fun. That was at the ah empty-ass stadium, but it was still ah it was still a good game. yeah Yeah. They can just eat that forever. Right. Well, it's like part of and part of me was like i like I really want to beat these guys because of that, but with it ending as a 0-0, I'm like, all right, take take that zero zero home point.
00:53:19
Speaker
take Yeah. That's fine. Like KKR said, tie. if you if they were playing for a tie great job. Congratulations. They're at home. That's usually not what you see happen. yeah You know, it's like you guys are playing at home.
00:53:31
Speaker
This team's on a fucking odyssey trying to get home. Yeah. Yeah. Haven't been home in in weeks, man. Well, yeah. All right, Gianni. Great stuff. As always, man, we're going James in here now. yeah He's been, he's been waiting for this one. So we're going to put him on this. Hell yeah. But ah good stuff, man. We'll catch you next time.
00:53:51
Speaker
All right, we got James, we got Disc Golfer, we got Bobby, and then we got Hunch. So let's ah let's turn through it, but let's get the man to the stage right now. James, welcome in, man. What's going on? Zero-zero at Minnesota United. ah Just let's let let's let's get into it do you want to do the Roost and Roost neck takes right away, or did you have anything else that you wanted to get out there first? Yeah.
00:54:13
Speaker
Well, ah thank you for having me. I'll just say I'm not as negative on on Minnesota's play style as you guys are. Really? i think part of that is my my first Premier League team was Bolton Wanderers under Sam Allardyce, where it was all long balls all the time.
00:54:30
Speaker
if you're not very rich, if you're not spending having an identity that you want to play with, I don't think it's the worst thing. um The other part of this too is if go out there the horseshoe of death, Pac-Blocks is not the worst.
00:54:50
Speaker
uh solution to that uh it's not but going okay i uh i don't disagree with that but like doing it at home it feels a little beyond the pale to me like can't do that at home can you i mean they did but like i honestly going on the road and doing that i don't think i would i don't think i would think that that much about it a lot of teams do that i expect seattle to not maybe not to that extreme but like when you're going on the road and you got to sit back and absorb more and play more defensively and uh and all that, that is not that crazy of a concept to me. But to come out with that extreme of tactics again at home, even even with the fact that you just came off a 6-0, that's not how I would handle it. But again, I mean, it's not my coaching job that's on the line with it. So, you know, it's easy for me to say.
00:55:40
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. But um is it is it any worse to watch than 70% passing the ball around the midfield constantly i don't think it's any worse it it might not be worse aesthetically but there's more dignity in in actually having the ball and trying to play with it than there is in not doing that i think
00:56:03
Speaker
yeah no that's i i understand that i understand that um but uh yeah i'll go ahead and go into the main event um i I disagree with the idea that Rusnak is playing worse than he usually does. This is who he's always been, and he's just gotten luckier in the past.
00:56:25
Speaker
You know, he doesn't he's never linked up play well. He's never tried very hard. And this season, he's just not getting penalties. He's not getting second assists on RFC.
00:56:38
Speaker
not setting up a bad wall he can score on. Sean Zawatsky's not in goal. So it's just it' the same as it's always been. And it's just being more exposed now because the ah you know the luck isn't falling his way.
00:56:56
Speaker
we've got better options now. We've got a track record that says we play better with Jesus there. ah Petkovic is at least interesting. you know At least he's young.
00:57:08
Speaker
Rusnak's about to 32. He's certainly not going to get any better. And the results have never really been there with him as the number 10. And I don't know why Schmetzer's being stubborn about it. I really don't.
00:57:22
Speaker
I mean, you know, it's no surprise that I see it a little bit differently. I i think the i think there is There's a lot of track record of production that's kind of hard for me to dismiss as he lucked his way into that and I and for me at the end of the day, like discourse aside the thing that I care most about.
00:57:44
Speaker
With the number 10 is if the production is there and I feel like the production has been there and I think that we've seen this offense and this attack play really well with him as the focal point maybe that's where we diverge because. ah I don't think today is the example of how it's looked on the whole for his time on the team.
00:58:05
Speaker
But, you know, like i like we we acknowledged we acknowledged already that the last two, three games have not looked very good. So, you know, we'll see what happens moving forward. Maybe I will get to a place where I'm arguing for Jesus to be the 10. But i don't I don't see it as pressing an issue quite yet. But that's that's just me.
00:58:31
Speaker
James, I think you might've cut out.
00:58:36
Speaker
I can't hear you. Yeah, sorry. I'm breaking up and I go watch a project. mary So I'll take off very much. Okay. me And I hope you have a great week. Yeah, you too. Thanks James. All right. We got disc golfer. We got Bobby. We got hunched. We got Kenny. We got Caleb. So we got a jammed cue. Let's ah let's get to it. Disc golfer.
00:58:57
Speaker
Welcome in. Oh, I think you're muted. There we go. My mic was muted. There you go. Zero-zero at Minnesota United. The squad has been Ramsey-balled once again. It's a point on the road, but no goals. What did you think? How are you feeling? Yeah, I'm not too torn up about it. I mean, we know what we're going get from Minnesota. They bunkered.
00:59:14
Speaker
Sounders couldn't break them down this time. Had a couple chances. Gave up a couple chances. It was... a you know what, this is a game that I'm not even going to remember by the end of the season. so i plan on i plan on yeah I plan on never thinking about this again after this ah stream is over. And I think ultimately, you know if you're if you're talking about who is 0-0 benefits more in this situation, i think you would have to say Seattle, right? Oh yeah, 100%, especially...
00:59:43
Speaker
i don't I don't think it's Cope at all, especially in the context of this big road trip they have. Exactly. Any points from this big road trip is just ah but just putting them in a better spot for the end of the season. So I'm not i'm not too torn up about it. um I think there were a lot of positives this game. I think ah this – I thought maybe this was rolled on Christian Roldan's best game of the season so far.
01:00:04
Speaker
i Yeah, I agree with that. hired like Especially in the bar in the first half, I thought he was looking like vintage Christian. That's a good shot. Yeah, I thought he was – I thought he was great. um I like seeing him with Pekovic a lot.
01:00:15
Speaker
um I think Pekovic likes to push up a little bit higher. um And I think that lets Christian Roldan kind of play that role that he really likes, kind of that ah natural number six.
01:00:26
Speaker
I think I still like Snyder B more, but I thought, you know, just seeing the two of them together, that is another option that Schmetz can go to. Yeah. um it was kind of It was nice to have a skill set that's more just kind of pure attack-minded or like with with his long passing and his switches and stuff. like I think that did add something to the to the midfield partnership there. So I'm with you. I definitely um i think Snyder should be starting in CCC and all that.
01:00:55
Speaker
But i I think the Petkovic thing has been going well so far. i I will say that. You know what? When they made that signing, I was honestly disappointed. It felt like just... snapping up a guy that happened to fall into their laps or the loan whatever it is um but uh i was wrong my bad craig i'm sorry um it's what i get but uh yeah no i mean i i'll keep it quick because i want to go fishing here but um just wanted to say i'm not too torn up about it i thought you know rosnak he hasn't had the best start to the season but he did a lot of a lot of work holding on to possession today in tight quarters which is a skill set he's very good at um
01:01:32
Speaker
And yeah, it's just a, you know what? It's just Minnesota away. Their fans are gonna be cringe. Their style of play looks rough and getting out of there with a draw in the middle of this big road trip.
01:01:44
Speaker
I'm not gonna lose sleep over it, so. Love it. On to the next one. All right. That's all got. On to the next. Thank you, Disc Golf, for good stuff as always. We'll catch you next time. All right. We got Bobby and then we got Hunch. Bobby, give me the thumbs up if you are ready to come on here.
01:01:59
Speaker
Oh, I don't think you can hear me. We're just going to send him to the stage. Bobby, what's up? You're on the stage. i can't hear you. You can't. Can you hear me? Can you hear me now? I can't hear you at all. Oh, ah let me ah let me remove you from the stage. and I'm going to add you real quick and we'll see if that fixes it.
01:02:15
Speaker
ah OK, what about now? can you hear me now? Let me try a refreshing. this is All right, we're going to ah we're gonna get to Hunch and then get Bobby in here after that while he sorts out his tech.
01:02:28
Speaker
Hunch, you are on the stage now. Looking forward to hearing from you on this 0-0 draw at Minnesota. It's a point on the road, but no goals. What did you think? how are you feeling?
01:02:41
Speaker
I can't hear Hunch now. All right. We're going to take Hutch off the stage and we're going to try Bobby again. Bobby, can you hear now? Now can't hear you again, damn it. ah That's irritating. Okay, you can't hear me. We're gonna take Bobby off the stage again and we're going to see if we can get the tech figured out with ah Kenny.
01:03:03
Speaker
Kenny, can you hear me? I can hear you, man. There you go. Woo-hoo. Let's Hunch and Bobby, we'll get you guys in, but just try and sort out the tech, and we'll get you in after after this. But, ah Kenny, what's up? 0-0 at Minnesota. What did you think? how are you feeling?
01:03:19
Speaker
Boring. Not the worst 0-0 draw ever, but not how I wanted to spend my Sunday afternoon. Agreed, yeah. i thought I thought the game was there for the taking. um I'll echo some other people and not to pile on, but, yeah, it was another go-snack.
01:03:34
Speaker
He had a decent flick, a decent corner, ah some shitty free kicks, I suppose. i actually do think that Jesus should be in that spot. He just makes us way faster. It's kind of similar to Roldan playing instead of Yemar at center back.
01:03:51
Speaker
Kalani is faster than Alex, and Alex is faster than Yemar. And then also the speed of passing from Alex. Yamar's clearly worked on his passing a lot, and he'll get those entry balls into the final third a little bit more.
01:04:04
Speaker
um But just the crispness and the pace on some of the passes from Alex out of the back makes it a lot more fluid in build-out. So I really, really appreciate his possession out of the back.
01:04:17
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, I don't i don't hate the Jesus at the 10 idea. and we're ah We're a pro Jesus Ferreira show around here. So yeah we'll we'll see what happens. i kind of am trying I'm trying to take a lot of what we're seeing performance-wise with at least a grain of salt to the extent of like when you're playing this many road games in this congested a period of time not every performance is going to be virtuoso so you know yeah i know it's i know it's like not uh exciting to say but until we got more of a sample size i think it's kind of hard to tell what the issues are right now versus what's just like you're you're playing an insane amount of games you haven't been home in like a month at this point yeah you know You kind of just got to grind through this and then see where you're at once ah you get back into CCC. At least that's what I'm telling myself. And if and if you tell me seven points before this, then i take that. These three games, you tell me seven points, I take that.
01:05:11
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, exactly. Ten times out of ten. I'm just going to pretend this was a draw where they scored a goal, and I think I'll feel a little less annoyed about it. Because really, honestly, I wouldn't even really care that much about the 0-0, except for that it's against this freaking team, man. Yeah, and and they're obsessed with us. I i never think about you.
01:05:31
Speaker
Minnesota, I never think about you. You got to get James to lead you to a trophy before my thoughts get occupied. Yeah, yeah. You got to get into that echelon. Yeah. um Andy T's been looking great. I said before, his athleticism is amazing.
01:05:50
Speaker
Got caught out the one time, but of course, Super Tino is back there to save the day, as always. that was pretty that was That was pretty lucky. They got lucky to not concede on him. Yeah, very lucky. That would have been bad.
01:06:03
Speaker
That would have, yeah, that would have soured me on this game a lot because, ah you know, if they had given up, their if they had given up even one goal, would have soured me a lot. Because it's like the the times where they got close to scoring when they were on the counters, it's like, bro, that's literally all they have.
01:06:20
Speaker
That's all they have. Just don't give them that. Do not give that. Make them like break you down or do something novel instead of just giving them the tactic that they're going for. Yeah, I mean, yeah, there's some quality in their attack for sure. And I mean, they defended well, but I mean, we could we could get behind them when they got stretched and we weren't really playing in behind them when when there was space. We were really, I mean, and Schmetzer has talked about that before, using possession as a defensive measure.
01:06:51
Speaker
So like they can't, They can't score if you don't give give the ball up. um And then, yeah, on that note, Pekovic had some really, really nice moments, and he's looked great.
01:07:03
Speaker
much better than I expected in his couple appearances. um But he also had some giveaways in his half. So I think it's going to take some time for him to, to acclimate to the rest of the team and the system.
01:07:18
Speaker
And, but I think he has the tools to be a starter in this league for sure. He's definitely, he's a dime disher. Like the passes that he hits, I'm like, okay, I can actually see why you at one point got a couple of mil spent on you. I see it.
01:07:33
Speaker
Yeah, he's got the size too. He's kind of like, he's just got the size and speed that I like, you know, for all action kind of midfielder, you know. um And I feel like he freed up a Christian to do a little bit more in this one as well.
01:07:50
Speaker
I mean, they were both taking up good spots at the top of the box and trying to get shots off when they could. i mean, Schmetz said he wants to see more shots from outside the box, but... Honestly, unless you're going volley it or half volley it, there's not really, there wasn't a whole lot of opportunities because those, um, the midfielders were, were coming out to cover up those long, long range, um, opportunities.
01:08:16
Speaker
Uh, so, so really they don't give up a lot. And, uh, and, uh, we don't, we don't have the finishing in this one again, but like I said, you give me a draw, I will take it on the road and MLS.
01:08:29
Speaker
But we have to go show up when we get back to lumen you know? Yeah, I think we all we all agree there, yeah.
Seattle Sounders' Ambitions and League Standing
01:08:37
Speaker
if And a lot of fans want to see us challenge for a supporter shield.
01:08:43
Speaker
I think that's going to show people that it's ambitious. It's ambitious of the Sounders. if you're If you're really going gangbusters for CCC, sometimes that sacrifices your shield push.
01:09:00
Speaker
So we'll see. I mean, they are they got 10 points and LAFC's laf season first in the West right now with 13. Nashville's first in the East with 13. So they're not like crazy out of range of the teams that are near the top of the table right now.
01:09:15
Speaker
no i mean that's what i'm saying it's in striking distance if uh we can get healthy and uh one of our strikers can get hot then uh then i mean i could see us potentially challenging for top of the west at the very least we we should be
Player Performance and Tactical Adjustments
01:09:32
Speaker
i don't want to see us hovering in fifth and fourth again this year i just that's just not where we belong and I don't know if we need to have big sweeping changes if that is the – if we are just going to run it back like that.
01:09:46
Speaker
I mean, it's a similar team, so maybe we'll expect similar results. But I just don't – I mean, especially – so remember Jordan getting played into space, into the corner?
01:09:58
Speaker
Any – And he showed his burst. He still has that burst, J-Mo. ah Yeah. And there was another one where he gets... Yeah. He was he was there. He was there. He looks like himself, ah ready to come back. um But then he got... Another time he got to the end line and tried to cut it back into the box. And there was only two men in there and they both overrun it.
01:10:21
Speaker
know. I forgot about that one. I forgot about that one. I don't know if the effort's not there. I know James always likes to call him a lazy player. I don't... necessarily agree with that but if if you can't get into that then man you're you might be done at this level if you can't find the fucking pace if you can't find the horsepower to get into the box on a scoring opportunity like that when a guy off the ir you know he just got off the doctor's table you know jordan morris is running his ass off, risking both them ACLs again, and cutting it back, then, Albert, there's no excuse. You have to get your ass into the box.
01:11:02
Speaker
If you're not fast enough to do it, if you simply don't have those wheels anymore, then maybe Seattle Sounders is just not your level anymore, my friend. And then we need someone with some pace like Jesus Ferrer. If Jesus Ferrer was playing the 10 with Jordan Morris right there, I think he runs onto that.
01:11:16
Speaker
And, you know, whoever else can play that other winger and make the run to the far post. You know, it's just um I do think at times ah Albert's style of play it can be detrimental to a fast-paced attack.
01:11:32
Speaker
But i like I like some of his technique and his shooting ability. He can make his own shot. He can find a nice pass. But it it might be time to for a new chapter at the ten it's ah It's definitely a storyline.
01:11:48
Speaker
Yeah, I've liked him in the past. I've really liked him in the past. Yeah. Well, ah Kenny, any... Yeah. New Who, Man of the Match. I agree with that. Yeah.
01:12:00
Speaker
He didn't do a lot, but he did just enough and he was super solid. He was ah coordinating a lot. He was coordinating a lot, especially in the first half when it was, ah we got onto them in the, at the beginning of the second half, but in the first, he was really seemed frustrated with some of the ideas going on and positioning, but very vocal and his leadership is amazing to see.
01:12:23
Speaker
ah
Technical Difficulties During Discussion
01:12:24
Speaker
got God bless Cameroon. and Anyways, I know you got people next you. I'll see you later, Ari. Sounds good. Thanks, Kenny. Appreciate you, man. We'll catch you next time.
01:12:35
Speaker
All right, we're going to try Bobby again, and then we're going to hit Caleb after that. Bobby, oh, he's he's shaking his head. Are you shaking your head? Shake your head if you don't want to come onto the stage.
01:12:47
Speaker
Okay, I'm going to bring you on. What the fuck? Okay, the tech is not sorted out yet. We are going to try. let's get Let's get Caleb in here, and then we'll see if Bobby's tech is sorted, and then we got Hunch, and then that's it for now. So if anyone else does want to hop in and lay down some takes, I'll be around for a little bit longer. Probably not all that much longer.
01:13:10
Speaker
to be honest, probably looking at like, what are we at? Hour 13, probably looking at like hour 30 ish tops today, guys. It is a beautiful Sunday out there and the squad disc did just draw zero zero against the Ramsey ballers. So I'm not necessarily hankering for a two hour sesh right now. Are you guys? I don't, I don't really think so. But let's go, let's get Caleb in here. He's at his drum set.
01:13:30
Speaker
Caleb, welcome in and what's up? Zero zero away at Minnesota United. ah What'd you see? What'd you think?
01:13:41
Speaker
All right, now I can't hear Caleb. Caleb, can you hear me? What up, Ari? um First off, I'd like to give a shout out.
01:13:56
Speaker
Oh, now I can't hear you again.
01:14:03
Speaker
Caleb, you cut out. I can't hear you.
01:14:10
Speaker
All right. We're going to take, we're going to Caleb off the stage and we're going to try hunch and then bring Caleb back on here. Yeah. got it figured out. Yeah. Oh yeah. Okay.
01:14:22
Speaker
Hunch is there. So we're going to, we're going to let hunch cook for a bit and then Caleb, I'll get you in right after hunch. What did you think? Zero,
Defensive Strategies and Match Analysis
01:14:30
Speaker
zero away at Minnesota, a road point, no goals. How are you feeling?
01:14:35
Speaker
I mean, I feel all right. Like I, I, We could have gotten a you know maybe a victory out of that, but I think on both sides, ah
01:14:46
Speaker
both teams were unlucky to miss the chances they missed. Like we could have been down two, three, nothing if their striker puts away some of the ones they had, but just the same, like, you know, narrowly missing out on a few chances that we had. Yeah. I really felt like, I really felt like the, the main good chance that they had was the one that Yeboah made Andrew Thomas make a, that was a really good save. And then Jackson Reagan again came through with a block on the rebound. And then other than that, I thought they were pretty much, know, Lunes didn't really do that much in the first half. And then Hamas came on and generated a couple good looks for them, though. Like, so they I mean, you're right. They did have their chances in this game. It was not, you know, as much as we make fun of the Ramsey ball, which going to continue to do.
01:15:30
Speaker
It's not like they don't have looks or didn't have looks in this game. They did have they did have a couple. Yeah, yeah. um And they just sat back, which I find unbelievable.
01:15:42
Speaker
But, mean, if you're going to that. Yeah, why do you think they do that? Lack of creativity, lack of options, lack of chemistry. I don't know. yeah All I know I would not want to be a season ticket holder for that.
01:15:54
Speaker
Like, that comes to the roost at some point. That's the, yeah, exactly. And it's also just like, it's you really typically don't see teams do that at home. You just don't. Like, i regardless of what you think of the validity,
01:16:07
Speaker
of it or lack thereof it's just usually usually the conventional wisdom is when you're the home team you come out and try and get on top of the other team and get on the front foot and there was just absolutely none of that and unless you're just banged up and you don't have the matchups and you don't have the speed over the top which they clearly do um it just it's it's lack of creativity like how can you not facilitate some possession that you know becomes dangerous other than when it's literally a breakout I get being aware of it, but to only play that makes you singular dimension. And the thing is, the only reason we're talking about it is because it works.
01:16:41
Speaker
if if it If it didn't work for him, this would be not even a topic of conversation. Okay, it it did work last year, and it does work. But like in this case in this case, did it really work? Because, yeah, you didn't give up a goal.
01:16:55
Speaker
If the entire point of the sport was to not give up a goal, you might have won. But you need to score goals to win. And 0-0 at home is a bad result. That's not good. That's not good. No, I agree with you. ah What I'm saying is is like if we had come out victorious in two or so of three of these and hadn't had draws, we wouldn't even be talking about this now because we wouldn't be talking about the fact that they did it. It would just say, yeah, they're just not a good team.
01:17:19
Speaker
But we haven't figured out how to break that ah down. And the thing is, as soon as you do get up on them, they can't do it. As we saw in the third game last year, they had to come out yeah after they needed to chase the game, you know, being down or whatever. So it when i i'm not I'm not justifying it, do it because it works. I'm saying it has been successful. Therefore, we're talking about it. Therefore, it's going to continue to happen until we figure that out Yeah, it is, unfortunately. And it's, I mean, I don't know when the next time Seattle plays these guys is, but they're going, they are going to do it again, unless something drastically changes. Maybe, maybe Hamas brings them into a new era.
01:17:54
Speaker
They start playing like electric attacking footy, but have my doubts. Yeah, Hemi Rodriguez. Is that his last name? Yeah. Well, yeah, he's he he looks lethal. I'll say that.
01:18:07
Speaker
ah He looked pretty good. They've got they've played ah Timo Werner and Hamas Rodriguez in their last two games, and I thought both of them looked pretty good. Like, Hamas, I think there was even more questions about his motivation and buy-in, and he looked decently bought into me. so Yeah, once he starts for them, they're it's going to change their their whole attack.
01:18:28
Speaker
i hope um I thought Snyder looked good. um People talked about Andrew. and when he and he And he even said it was a mistake.
01:18:38
Speaker
The mistake, it could have been a bigger mistake. Because if he did come out, which it's arguable, because if the they had gotten the ball to their foot and he stayed back, he could have been really lined up in terms of them lining him up for a better shot.
01:18:52
Speaker
The mistake would have truly been to be halfway and to not commit, but he fully committed, which forced them to make a bad dink over the top. um So he owned it, but he it could have been much worse because if he just stayed in the no man's land, you know, halfway.
01:19:07
Speaker
So I still think he played that correctly. You know, the best of a bad situation. um and you got Tino out there. So that's, you can you can make make mistakes like that. And Tino's just going to bust it back and clear it out. So it's fine. no hand And then people are dogging on Georgie already.
01:19:28
Speaker
Half of Georgie's game is receiving the ball. he could No one on that side, especially who was behind him, would deliver the ball to him through.
01:19:40
Speaker
All the passes to him were one-to-one, no defender in between, where he now has to turn and take on one, two, or three defenders. No one was playing him in. No one played him over the top. No one played him through. I wish they had played him over the top more, especially. It's like, yeah when you've got a team that's doing this, that's one way to...
01:19:59
Speaker
to try and combat it. You know, we were, Gianni and I were talking about how Jordan Morris's skillset is maybe not the greatest for this matchup because of how far they sit deep. But I think there are like, there are going to be a couple opportunities in a given game of a team that's Ramsey balling where you can hit it over, over the top.
01:20:16
Speaker
So I wish they had done that a little bit more with Georgie and maybe more with Jordan when Jordan was in the game, but Jordan also wasn't in the game for that long. And there maybe weren't that as many of those opportunities there. So,
01:20:26
Speaker
I don't know. I'm just trying to think of ways of how you can defeat the Ramsey ball the next time. Because in all seriousness, they like you were saying, they have not figured it out yet. They haven't. Well, it makes it makes Georgie one-dimensional if he's always receiving the ball and having to attack players head on. because You know, he's going to line them up and then knock it on, which is why they were having two and three defenders come to his side.
01:20:46
Speaker
Which then begs the question, if there's three people over there guarding Georgie, who's open? And why are we not taking advantage of that? But that's, you know different conversation for a different day. I guess they actually did. They not figure it out last year in the playoffs. The last couple of games, they were scoring goals and Moose was going off. So it didn't seem like the Ramsey ball was affecting him too much in those scenarios. Is it is as simple as like, you just got to get Moose back. I don't know.
01:21:10
Speaker
Well, so we had no one crashed in the box from the center of the top of the box. We had so many bleeders right through. And then, then we started delivering the ball to the opposite side of the box. And it was great. Rothrock was given the ball.
01:21:22
Speaker
when he was on left or right wing, he gave some great crosses to the other side of the box, which would be great for Rothrock on the other side, but he can't receive his own crosses. No, he can't. So, let's do the work of him on the opposite side once he was out there. So, he had a rough go. We didn't have great pairings. We didn't have anybody paired great, which I would have loved Petrovic to tuck in more behind Georgie because he...
01:21:42
Speaker
even from deep center, he gave Georgie a few three balls. If he had been on the left wing, you know, behind him a little bit, or, you know left midfield, I would have loved to see him like how that combo could have worked. Cause I think they could have won two and some stuff.
01:21:55
Speaker
um
Injury Challenges and Team Depth
01:21:56
Speaker
New who, like I was on his case early and even the commentators in the first half were calling some of his passes hospital balls because he had two or three bad giveaways. And I was like, what is going on?
01:22:06
Speaker
And then once ah Minnesota started going for it and we had to play more defense, New who kept being in the right spaces at the right time, getting a lot of ah key blocks. So he kind of you know came out of that a little bit, but I don't know. At times it felt like he's playing ultimate Frisbee because he would just receive the ball. And it's like,
01:22:22
Speaker
In his own mind, he can't run with it. He just comes he becomes a statue and just stops. He's like, who can I pass it to? was like, dude, move the ball forward a little bit. Make somebody commit to you. Just don't stop and throw your hands out there. You got to make some connections. And that that kind of killed Georgie a little bit, too. But that's neither here nor there. He he balanced it out, like I said. um You guys talked about ah CCC.
01:22:43
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. So I made a ah bargain with myself back when we won it that year. And it was going into the last couple of games. And I just, i remember telling myself like out loud i was like, if we win this, I will sacrifice even making the playoffs this year.
01:22:58
Speaker
Like in my own mind, I was like, I will accept this trade-off. I think we all said that at the time. And then the reality of that happening set in and we were like, this is actually kind of sucks. But I still maintain that I would make that trade. I mean, well I don't I think you'd have to be insane to not make that trade. Here's what here's here's why it felt bad during that year is because they were right on the cusp of still making it And even in their own minds, if they were, you know, kind of half making it themselves, they really should have taken the time to just play some more of the backups, get some you know more time for people that, you know, resting some of the next people. and And long story short here, I think maybe they should consider that this year. And here's my thinking, not to necessarily just give up on the MLS Cup or playoffs, but really focus in on CCC.
01:23:41
Speaker
Take what comes your way as far as MLS playoffs, but don't be overly concerned because we have the short season. So if you guys get a bit of a rest in this season, win the MLS Cup in the short season next year.
01:23:54
Speaker
uh but do you think the short season cup cup is going to be one where people say that it doesn't count are they putting a star on the shirt where they're going to say i i i agree with that but you know it is uh like what i think is to happen with the short season is that the timbers are going to win it and then they're going to they're going to hang the sprint season banner next to the mls's back banner that's gonna that's gonna be heat but But, uh, hunch. I would take that.
01:24:22
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, I think the thing is, I think you have a deep enough team, at least as it stands right now, to go as hard for CC as, uh, as you can, and then still be in the mix in league play. We'll see how they end up balancing it, but my hope is that they're going to be able to not have to, like, make that an either or proposition. But what what I will say is that the way the CCC bracket is shaping up with a lot of these teams that were considered front runners getting knocked out, it's still there's still a very tough group of teams left, don't get me wrong. But you've had, you know, like Inter-Miami crashed out. You had a couple of other teams already that were expected to go deep, not go deep. So it feels like if there is a chance to make a good run,
01:25:02
Speaker
Like getting by Vancouver was a great way to start. That's one of the other best teams that you would have had to play. So it's kind of set up there to the the makings of a runner there. You just have to go get it. And you're obviously, you know, you are going to have to play LAFC, Toluca, Nashville, club America, whatever. It's going hard competition. And this Tigris series is going to be insanely hard, but if you can get by Tigris here, you know, you're going start feeling like it's within actual grasp. well yeah if you give by That's the first step to winning it. Yeah. If you get by Tigris, you've only got one more match to the final or one more.
01:25:33
Speaker
Right, yeah. One more series. Pairing until the final. um Is the final, I don't even know, is the final for CCC before or after the World Cup? It's before.
01:25:43
Speaker
Right before. so So this is what I'm saying. You go all gas, no brakes on that. You get the rest from the World Cup, yeah relatively speaking, which is what, about a month and a half or so?
01:25:55
Speaker
Yeah. And then you you reassess for like, where are you for making a serious run for the playoffs? And if not, then like i said, maybe you play a more variety in terms of like giving people a little bit of rest and then really you know be set up on the short rest to go for the short season on the MLS Cup for next year. Here's nothing thing I'll say that has stood out to me and no one else really has talked about this.
01:26:20
Speaker
In five matches, we have four first half injury substitutions. And we talk about the Sounders aren't, like, injury prone. None of our opponents have done this. Not single one. The injury situation, yeah, is is decidedly not ideal, particularly at the center back position. Seeing another CB go down today, was just like, dude, but for come on.
01:26:41
Speaker
We're almost at 100% for ah first half sub on based on injury for every single match. And and that that's just MLS, not CONCACAF. kka calf Yeah. um So that that seems like more than just an anomaly. That seems like a pattern.
01:26:57
Speaker
I wish that was a pattern that I could explain. i you know, I feel a lot better about the state of affairs if they weren't constantly down six center backs and four other guys and then two other guys beyond that. You know, it's ah <unk>s unfortunate, but i think considering that they're in, they're in, if you read me the injury list before the start of the season and then told me what their record was and where they were at in CCC, I'd be like, I don't think I believe that because there's, that's too many guys that have gone down they've managed to weather it well so far but it would just be it would be nice to at some point get that like back just to like a league average injury luck right situation like just a normal just be a normal team with that that would be nice and and knock on wood I mean at least none of them have been hamstrings knock on on a lot of wood but yeah yeah so I mean we're still and we're lucky to have the depth that we do I'll say that um
01:27:50
Speaker
if it wasn't for that, we could be in real trouble. Oh, I wish Pete had got in today. That's that's the only that's my only complaint. Pete could have changed the game. she Yeah, yeah. it Well, and speaking of which, I think this game was designed for Moose. It's unfortunate we were missing. We were talking about that, but yeah, yeah. Because that's what flipped it in the in the playoffs last year. there was There's literally a direct line between like them playing without Moose and then playing with Moose. Without Moose, they couldn't score on that team for anything. With Moose, they scored like seven goals in two games.
01:28:19
Speaker
Yeah. They also gave up a lot of goals and got knocked down PKs, but we don't need to get into that. Which is actually kind of begging the question here, and it needs to be talked about a little bit, is Ossazi has just not had a form. Again, the beginning of this game, we talked about it last game, he is absorbing the impacts. He's not delivering them, at least for the first half of this game.
01:28:38
Speaker
he he He was just getting bodied off stuff. He was you know expecting collision and as opposed to delivering collision. It just did not. He doesn't seem like he's comfortable in his own body in this. and it He didn't have that problem last year or in preseason, so I don't know what's up.
01:28:53
Speaker
Yeah. don't he's not comfortable or what. it's the In preseason, he looked like a demigod, and he has not like reached those heights so far to start the season. And they've been giving him a long leash. They've been giving him a lot of run, which I've been supportive of, but he still hasn't scored. I was encouraged today that he got, he got very incredibly close to scoring. Like that Georgie chance that, that one that Georgie lined him up for was, it was a great look by Georgie. I loved everything about the sequence on that play and the pattern of play and all that. That's what you want to see Georgie doing. And then Osase made the right run. He was in the right spot. That ball is going to be right there for a tap and the goalkeeper just manages to get it just get his hand to it but that was a good chance and i was at least happy that he was because i feel like until then you hadn't really seen him even in those spots that much so I guess it was good to see him at least in the the spot well even see yeah
01:29:43
Speaker
even seeing him react in the way that Christian does when Christian's about to be tackled by, you know, larger bodies and he just either shirks it off or bodies it out with his frame. It's like, if Osazi does that, like he will still be, he won't be fouling somebody and he'll be in possession and probably take somebody out along the way.
01:30:01
Speaker
So I don't know what it is. and And that leads me to the other thing is that I was not impressed with this ref. There were so many things that like, we got called for a yellow, Like when ah coke KKR got nutmegged and he obstructed and then it happens again in the second half, not even a foul. That play where there was two yellows on the same play to Seattle, that was kind of sick. Well, so that's the other thing. That first yellows was given to um Lopez, was it? Yeah. Yeah, it was Lopez. He was there first.
01:30:28
Speaker
Lopez and Petrovic. Yeah. yeah Lopez was there first. He got the ball. He... the other player came into him and he didn't like raise the studs or anything like that. I thought so too, but i I didn't see a replay, but that's what I thought when I saw it live.
01:30:40
Speaker
No, I saw the replay. And again, he plays the ball before the other player is even there. So I'm not sure how it's a foul if he plays the ball, the other player comes over the top and then so get taken out. Like he didn't go into the player. It wasn't from behind. It wasn't studs up.
01:30:52
Speaker
ah The ref had the bad view for it because it like his back, he was facing the back of the two the players. go But then also the drop ball that was ours, like when the guy was down because he like, why one, why stop play?
01:31:04
Speaker
And then two, the drop ball went to them and not us. Like just a lot of things that were not impressive about how how that match was called, but it could have been bad too. We got lucky. No PKs.
01:31:16
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. with they they They were playing for PKs in a game where there's no PKs, so that was fun. Yeah, and then that's, that's the thing was it Ferreira for them? Was that his last name? No. Ferreira? Ferreira. Ferreira.
01:31:28
Speaker
I hate i say hate, I don't like players that, because every time he fouled somebody, it's, I didn't foul anybody, and every time he's even close to someone coming, he's like, I'm fouled, it's yellow card, it's yellow card, yellow card, too. He only receives fouls and he never delivers them, and yet he was chopping at people and everything else. It just drives me crazy when somebody's, I don't know. so's like the He's like the prototype Minnesota United player, just kind of not that good, but absolutely disgusting on set pieces and also like the dark arts. He's definitely good, but I just hate the, the I never foul anybody notion and it's arguing with ref and then begging for yellows whenever they get even grays. And it's like, please.
01:32:06
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. All right, Hunch, you got any last? That's it. Who we got next? We got Bobby up next. We're going to see if his tech works. He's saying he switched to his phone, so I think it's going to work. But a Hunch, good stuff as always, man. And we catch you we'll catch you next time.
01:32:21
Speaker
Thank you, guys. All right, we're going to get Bobby on the stage right now. Switch to the phone. This tech is going to work this time. I can feel it. Why isn't it working? Bobby. Okay, say something.
01:32:31
Speaker
I'm talking. Can you hear me right now? this is killing me Oh, well, honestly. Unmute. Try to do that. Try to do that. Check, check, check. One, two. Check the tech. Check the tech. Headphones. and Try. You didn't mute me, did you?
01:32:48
Speaker
No, but I'll mute and unmute you.
01:32:53
Speaker
Okay, what about now? oh dan This is killing me. Anyways, um I'll just speak for a few seconds and we'll just go ahead and leave it at that. um I think that people are ah they're acknowledging the injury issue to cd our CBs and they're also ah separately acknowledging the scheduled congestion from participating in CCC. But the fact that these two things are happening so happening simultaneously is absolutely crazy to me um it's basically ah i mean realistically this week alone we were forced to one make an emergency uh call up or however you want to phrase it for tino lopez for last week's game against san jose and we were literally a miraculous save off the goal line away from getting no points out of that game right or
01:33:53
Speaker
I mean, if you want to say 1 or 0, probably 1 point, I guess, right? So we were a miraculous save for that game, and then something relatively similar on this game. So it's a, you know, essentially a 3-point swing for this week, all because we were forced to do an emergency call-up for a Tacoma Defiance player, which we have since given the first team contract to. And then again, we already have, then we have Alex Roldan go down again today. um You know, I'm just thankful that we actually have a week next week off, thanks to the international break. And then we've got
01:34:35
Speaker
Houston ah the following weekend, who Houston, one of their starting ah defenders actually got a red card in their game yesterday. So that's ah a nice bonus for us since he won't be able to play against us. And then that's our last that's our last road game. And for this stretch of the season, if you ignore the uh the opener ah at home if you ignore the opener we've got seven points in four games right now without even taking into consideration the houston match that's still 1.75 points per game which
01:35:14
Speaker
Currently, you know, i mean, last year that would have been good for fourth in the West, but that's still no that that's no home games effectively. ah So realistically, if we can even match anything close to this while getting healthier, while playing more games at home, we should easily be second or third in the West. um I think that I would take second or third, fourth and fifth is where you start losing me a little bit. And of course, last week it was much to our detriment not getting, you know, the extra home game and everything versus playing two games in Minnesota in the playoffs. um
01:35:57
Speaker
But the fact that we are dealing with this many, ah cornerback or cornerback football, centerback injuries, ah you have to really start consider why is Kim Kihee on this roster at all if he just can never stay healthy? um So that's that's honestly one of my big questions at this point. I get that he effectively costs nothing as a senior roster member working on that minimum and everything, but
01:36:30
Speaker
They talk about, ah you know, the best ability is availability. So I guess that's something to think about in terms of if the group chat wants to talk about it or something like that, or if you want to address that once I step off. But yeah, what is Kim Kihee doing on this roster at this point? And would that roster spot be better served? ah going to another healthy center back. So I'll let you go at this point. um Go ahead and ah also go see Project Hail Mary in theaters because it was super awesome. And Ryan Gosling was good in that. So, all right, have a good night.
01:37:10
Speaker
Hell yeah. Thanks, Bobby. Good stuff. Take care. And ah next time we get Bobby on, hopefully we'll have the tech sorted. But that was nice. that We just had him cook for a couple minutes there. And, you know, I didn't have to i didn't have to cook. So that was a a nice little respite. All right. We got two more people in the queue to close it out here. I see Caleb in there. He was having tech issues earlier. So we're going to get him in there and then we'll do Tribe to close it out. But know we're going to bring Caleb on right now. Caleb, but I don't see your video, but going to bring you on and we're going to see if this tech works.
01:37:41
Speaker
Caleb, can you hear me? Check one, two. Audio. audio tests like Audio tech. Okay. I hear you. Can you hear me?
01:37:52
Speaker
I hear you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can hear you, but like can you hear me? i hear I hear you. Okay. Well, oh I have to say a two things first. um ah One shout out to ah to Hunch for the shout out on Wednesday. um i have to say that. Thank you. like you know That was a for you know first compliment for me. i that was that that That really
01:38:25
Speaker
that there is they kind of really hit me off hard um and then there was a uh and then two um like this is uh like we have to acknowledge that it is women's history month so we have to give the credit to all the ladies that make this club
01:38:47
Speaker
not just in the pacific not not not just the seattle sounders but the pacific northwest we support and celebrate our women everywhere so for women's history months so that i will open up that statement with that um respectfully and now i have a question and for you ari yeah are you ready to are you ready to receive it yeah the coincidence that you know, we have this Champions League run coming up and that we are all in for it. You and many others, I'm in for it. this i'm I'm buying into the stock.
01:39:33
Speaker
But it's no coincidence that we have to sacrifice a match and not just any match with not just any opponent, but it just so happens that the RSL
01:39:50
Speaker
game April 12th has been rescheduled to September. I mean, like now, now i mean, as it as ah as as Noah would first field, there's something awry.
01:40:05
Speaker
so but But other than that, the game was trash. Albert has really stunk up. I'm just going to be like that That that that meme that is no passion there is no vision there is no aggression there is no mindset in this football club brian needs bri brian needs to be so brian needs to get smacked up the head a couple times what the hell is that with that type of performance when you're playing all the minnesotas when they're just all just blowing horns and not just playing stupid harambo and we only come up there with a point what the hell is that kind of performance
01:40:46
Speaker
that So, yeah I mean, it really is on Brian and as and especially this is on Craig because, yes, we've gotten great results in this start of the season.
01:40:59
Speaker
um But I'm still holding on to the fact that the standard of the – I'm still holding on to the fact of the standard that we have that that we went 13 games unbeaten in the beginning of the season.
01:41:15
Speaker
um Like, you know, like for for for this club's record. So, I mean, I'm still holding on to that being like, I don't want to, I mean, that that that's still like, that there there's no excuse. I'm i'm sorry, but there's no that was a good thing.
01:41:30
Speaker
But we have to, like, yeah, this has to be, this has to, we have to win this now. Like, with that, yeah, you're focused on Champions League. We have to get this Champions League now focused lethargic on everybody.
01:41:47
Speaker
Lethargic on everybody. like like i Again, again the credit is we are away from home. We haven't been at Lumen. so i'm giving i'm i'm being an Ari, so I'm giving i'm giving like that benefit of the doubt.
01:42:04
Speaker
But the resiliency, it's it's it's really not showing in certain places, and we're being selective asses about it, which I think we need to stop doing that. so i He'd be back on the floor. So you thought it was more of a resilience issue for why they didn't score today more than the fixture congestion? Is that what you're saying?
01:42:39
Speaker
Caleb? Hello? Hello?
01:42:42
Speaker
i'm i'm been i'm having trouble I'm having trouble hearing you. I'd say it's both. Wait,
01:42:52
Speaker
wait wait wait, wait. Can you hear me? cause like cause Yeah, there's there's like a little bit of a delay. So I'm going to let it sit and then then you can. Wait, you kind of faded in and out too.
01:43:07
Speaker
Oh, man.
01:43:13
Speaker
right. Yeah. I, uh, I can't hear you, Caleb, but I think I heard, I heard most it. This is, this is, yeah, I can't. Yeah. All right. All right. We're going to, I'm going to take Caleb off the stage. Good stuff though, Caleb. I did hear, I did hear most of that, but then you started dodging in and out at the, uh, at the end there. And I don't know if you guys could hear the end of it chat, but I kind of could, but I, I heard most of, uh, of what he was saying.
01:43:37
Speaker
And, uh,
01:43:40
Speaker
just cut out at the end. But anyway, I'm going to get tribe in here and we're going to, we're going to call it a day. I went longer than I intended to for a Sunday afternoon. So there's going last call. No one else tap tap in. Let's get tribe in here.
01:43:53
Speaker
Tribe. What's up, man. Thanks for tapping in and bringing us home. Last caller of the day, zero, zero draw at Minnesota United. are you feeling? What'd you think? I didn't see the game, but I watched closely cause I had my own game. I almost died in that game. So it was fun, but um did you win?
01:44:10
Speaker
No, it was a draw, but I did get kicked in the head while collecting a ball, which was pretty painful, and I was passed out for 30 seconds. That's fine. But um it's part of the job. Stephen Fry had it happen to him, if you remember last season, so it is what it is. But um I just saw the possession on Google, and I'm like, what the fuck is happening? They here they were bringing they were bringing it back. They were bringing it back.
01:44:35
Speaker
Was it the same old Eric Ramsey shit? Yeah, well, in the first half, it very heavily was, especially at the start of the game. And the first like 20, 30 minutes, I was just sitting there like, there's no way this is happening. There's no way. And then it was, I will say to be fair, ah in the second half, it was a little little less Ramsey-ish.
01:44:55
Speaker
There was some there's some footy going on. After Hamas came on, there was a little bit of footy going on. they did have it He generated a couple of really good chances that put Seattle under it. So, but like, I'm even the peak Ramsey, they still were able to troll their way into chances and goals. So it was, i was getting very, very heavy flashbacks. I was, I mean, from, from what I kind of gathered, we have another injury now.
01:45:23
Speaker
Alex Roldan came off about 20 minutes into the game. Oh, shit. Yeah, he was pointing at his hip or his thigh, it looked like to me. But Schmetzer schmetzer did say after the game that it was a hip pointer, which I think, as I understand it, is more like ah a stinger-type situation. it's not It's not like a muscle pull. So if if that is the case, then theoretically it shouldn't be something that makes him miss time. But we also he's got to get back to see doesn't get tested and all that.
01:45:52
Speaker
So my whole thing about calling in, I didn't see the game, but I saw the result and I want to focus on the fact that I don't think any of us would have thought that we would have only lost one game in our first five matches. I think we would have all taken that really. Cause ah how the Sounders usually start the season is quite horrible. It feels like the end of, of, of the season, the first 10 matches, doesn't it? Like,
01:46:19
Speaker
2023 was horrible. 2024, pretty bad as well. It feels like, it usually feels like the Sounders have lost what the Sounders are known to do, and that's be dangerous on the attack and defend well. But this season, I feel like we are a strong contender for MLS Cup. But um with the World Cup coming, we're going to have a month and a half break, right? Something like that, I think.
01:46:46
Speaker
a Champions Cup final is going be before the World Cup, I believe, right? Isn't that fucking push for that? that It's the perfect opportunity. We got past Vancouver, used that momentum, and we're going to make a cup run again. and Brian Schmetzer is going to be a coach with two Champions Cups, which is going to be absolutely insane. um For the MLS season, I say we push hard after the World Cup.
01:47:13
Speaker
I think, when is League's Cup, actually? august i think it's like way later yeah but then i think i think we're good to go right champions cup now leagues cup whatever mls cup run it does that sound like a plan somewhat it sounds like a plan and it's all out there in front of them to what you were saying about uh if you looked at it before the season and told us that there would only be one l on the ledger with this uh through this many games i think, you know, there I agree with that, even if ah like in regards to the storylines you were talking about, about how this team tends to start slow and they usually have to make up a deficit furiously in the second half of the season. That hasn't been as true in the last few years, but that definitely was true for a long time. And I think going into every league season, I'm always kind of prepared for it to take a while to ramp up. But honestly, I think even more so so when you throw CCC on top of it, like if someone had said that's going to be the league record and you're going to be in the CCC quarters after five winning Vancouver on aggregate and Vancouver is going to be top of the league. You know, they were four, Oh, and Oh at the time with a plus 13 best goal differential in MLS history through four games. I, I, I think,
01:48:27
Speaker
I think, yeah you know, it's it's fair to be disappointed by the fact that they didn't get a goal today, but also recognize that where where they're standing on the league table and in CCC, they're in good spots there.
01:48:41
Speaker
About the resilience point, I don't know who made that, but there's... Come on. so The San Jose game, is that not resilience?
01:48:51
Speaker
That's like the definition of grit and resilience. I mean, you have... These young kids coming in that have no experience in top-flight professional football, they come in and they're like, it's one of the best players on the field. Look at what Kingston did against Vancouver. Look at what what what Lopez did against San Jose. yeah lopez had a When you go back and watch the highlights, Lopez had another one.
01:49:20
Speaker
Really? Yeah. Yeah, there was a play where Andrew Thomas came off his line when he arguably should not have, and the Minnesota striker chipped it over him, and it was exactly like the Preston Judd one, like going towards the goal, and Tino tracked back and got it out of there for a corner. It wasn't as crazy or heroic as the San Jose one, but it was still like a yes, Tino, good job, like way to stay with it. So he would the Tino stock went up, I think, for that.
01:49:47
Speaker
I'm extraordinarily excited about those two and what is happening with Tacoma defiance. Just bring up everyone. It doesn't matter who needs, who needs to have any transfers. when We got Tacoma defiance. Look at what's happening. But, um,
01:50:03
Speaker
I want to know, how did George Minungu did? How did he do? how did How did my boy do? So that was a polarizing topic. Noah was down you know it was down on him coming out of the game. And I wasn't as down on him coming out of the game. He generated the best two chances that Seattle had in the first half. He had a cutback pass, famous cutback pass to Christian Roldan at the top of the box. So good at both.
01:50:28
Speaker
Yeah, Christian had a shot from the top of the box that deflected, but it went off the post. That was almost a goal. And then honestly, the even better the even better one was he, i think he won his 1v1 and was getting towards that end line, that primary assist zone. And he sent a across ah across the box and Osaze was crashing the far post. And if it had made it through, it would have been the easiest to happen of all time. And the Minnesota goalkeeper, like laid out and just barely got his hand on it before Osaze could jump on it.
01:51:01
Speaker
Drake calendar. So, I mean, not the, yeah not a best 11 candidate in there, but he did. I mean, he literally finger tipped the ball from Georgie away from Osaze. Otherwise it would have been an easy goal. So, I mean, there was, there was plays where Georgie ah wasn't able to kind of do his bit effectively, but he did do it a a couple times and they all, they really almost got two goals out of it. But the Osase one stands out. I thought that was probably Seattle's best chance of the game. There's on other days, that's probably a goal. And then also in the second half, he he did wiggle three for a little shot in the box that Callender saved pretty easily. But I still like that he was shooting from inside the box with a little pace on it. So I thought i thought he was i thought he was okay. het He didn't light it up, but I don't think he was as bad as some people were were saying either.
01:51:52
Speaker
I mean, one more thing I want to talk about is just The tactics that Brian Schmetzer lays out game by game, everyone is saying that, like, Bruce Arena's the best coach, Bruce Arena's the best coach. I'm looking at a game that usually during the Eric Ramsey time and in this weird fucking Mikel Arteta, not even Arsene Wenger, like, drop back and defend always got us. Brian Schmetzer adapts and adapts. And I and i saw it on the stat sheet and I'm like, whoa, we haven't conceded a goal from from a counterattack or anything.
01:52:30
Speaker
I am very, very impressed with him. But with that being said. There was a point, Tribe, where it was. Remember how Ramsey hovered in that 70-30 possession range? there was a point There was a point in the first half where it was literally 80-20. They were doing it again, like blatantly. And they stopped doing it as much in the second half. But in the first half, I was just like, guys.
01:52:52
Speaker
You're killing me. You're killing me with this. But honestly, Seattle couldn't crack the code. They couldn't crack the code, so whatever. They're playing. It works. It always works.
01:53:05
Speaker
KKR was even saying after the game, he was he said something like, they did if they were playing for a tie, they did a great job, which I thought pretty much sized it up. like I mean, yeah, but with that being said, I do have to go ice my ah neck. and Yeah, yeah, mend up, Tribe. It sounds like you took a ah got your bell rung. That was fine. question mark Concussion protocol for Tribe. Absolutely. Well, thanks for calling in, as always, man. Appreciate you. Great stream.
01:53:30
Speaker
I love this. Thank you, Ari. Appreciate you, Tribe. We'll catch you on the next one. Cheers. Take care. All right. I'm also going to get out of here on that, guys. So I hope you have a great rest of your Sunday.
01:53:41
Speaker
Go outside. Enjoy the sunshine. That's what I'm about to go do. Maybe run some errands. And not a cloud in the sky, it looks like, as I look out my window. So I'm i'm looking forward to that. Enjoy that Seattle sunshine. Nico and I will be at it 8 a.m. tomorrow for kickoff. As far as I know, i haven't texted him yet. But That's what we always do. So I'll see you all tomorrow morning.
01:54:03
Speaker
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01:54:17
Speaker
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