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Speaker: it really like I hate to say it because I don't want to like, you know, ego, whatever, but like the way people skate now, as far as like Instagram edits, all of this, like I've been waiting to get on some kind of platform to even say it.
Speaker: Me and my homies changed the whole shit. We changed it all. Yeah. Because no one was skating like that before. Like no one was, first of all, one was skating to music. People were just posting raw clips. No one was slow-moing their clips. And it was taboo.
Speaker: to even post yourself skating anytime you made an edit it was of someone else yeah so i'm just like i'm about i'm like hey film me bro i'm about to post myself yeah you know it was like taboo and like that just took off bro like i i'll never forget i went from like i don't know like 5 000 followers in like 2016 to like within that in into 2017. yeah yeah
Speaker: What's good everyone. Welcome back to my first kicks the podcast where use sneakers as a through line to get to know the guests in front of me this week. I am joined by C Roy or like you want me go. Cyril. Cyril. We can go Cyril. can go C Roy.
Speaker: I'm so used to calling you C-Roy from TikTok. I know, C-Roy. So if you look at my TikTok, it's see it's C-Roy Cyril Palmer. Yeah. The whole thing.
Speaker: But Cyril is so my legal name. Yes, yes, yes, yes. C-Roy is like a stage name when I used to make music and stuff. Shouts out to C-Roy, man. Yeah. Shout out to, when did you stop making music? I stopped making music. The last song I ever put out was in 2019. A lot of kids hit me up and they're yo, need to get back on it. But it was just like, was just like a part of my life. Like I really wanted to make music at the time, but now just everything, everything happens for a reason. I've been, I've been doing all this stuff, obviously. Music's still there. If y'all want listen to it's still there. didn't go nowhere. You know what I mean? It didn't go nowhere. Nah, man. I mean, just real quick, because I got to tell you, like, you know, you were one of the first follows I did on TikTok. Like when I first found TikTok, I was just like, oh, yeah, this dude's dope because you broke out like some OG SBs. And I was just like, yeah. I'm honored, bro. I'm honored. I'll take that. I'll take that. Nah, yeah. I mean, and your fits were definitely like talking to me specifically because you dress like how I wanted to dress back in the 2000s. I Back when I was trying to be down with Supreme and like down in the Lower East Side and it just never happened for me because was too fat. So seeing like you come up and do your content and figure out your lane, like, I mean, you're modeling, you know, you're doing so much to bring... like i want to say like that la culture more outside yeah like i always thought it was dope the car shit the car shit was like yeah that's she my girlfriend she's over here jay she has my cars why because i just talk about like obsessed with them i just talk about them all the time um
Speaker: something's always wrong with one of them. BMW, man. Shout out to BMW. yeah You're known you got to fix them up. bro and Until I get that BMW sponsorship. You know what mean? Hey, holler at us. I know y'all watching. Y'all big fans. um But you're here to answer the question that i ask everybody each week. And that question is, what's your first kick? So it's that first pair of sneakers you absolutely needed to have. Oh, my God, bro. So I'm a big. Jumping in real quick to remind you all to like, subscribe, and leave a comment on this episode. If you're listening to this on YouTube, please leave a comment.
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Speaker: Just help out the podcast by signing up for the podcast. Patreon. Patreon.com slash MyFirstKicks. But for now, let's jump back into the episode. I'm a big... I love Dunks, obviously. But I was a big one. Like, one dude.
Speaker: like some like already know nike sb and all that stuff sometimes hard to get your hands on yeah early early early days like i remember skating and i was just like yo how are we gonna get these shoes to skate in was like kind of impossible so started skating once yeah so ones bro i really love royal 2001 royal ones i still have my pair they coming back out too know i still have my pair yeah i still have my 2001 royal ones they're they're beat but i still have them bro and i like really cherish those because You know what I mean? like People go through phases of of stuff, and i feel like people either hate ones or they love ones. or like oh, they're too hyped or whatever. But it's ones and dunks, bro. I'm a skater is one thing.
Speaker: And a one is really, a if you really think about it, a one is really a dunk high. It is, yeah. That's why i love ones too. yeah And I mean, like even in the, what is it, like 88, I think. So I had Dante Ross on the podcast, and he was talking about being like one of the first couple people to skate Jordan 1s. Yeah. And was just like, yeah, that shoe to me, it has so much heritage that's outside of basketball that I can't like, I'm like, yeah, it's one of my favorite shoes. Yeah, you know exactly. Tony Hockey is skating ones bro i mean i need a picture of that you never seen i've never seen a picture of him look up tony hawk in jordan ones okay he before he was like sponsored by don't know what like audio or etnies or whatever he was i think i feel like air walks air walks even air walks yeah he was skating in ones he was skating in ones there's a lot of iconic photos of him skating in like the og chicago ones and like just all those cool this is like mullet this is like skinny tony skinny skinny tony in the bowls yes skinny skinny tony
Speaker: Like doing vert tricks. He like made me want to skate ones. Like he made the ones fire, bro. He made the ones fire. Like if Jordan was hip, shout out to Jordan. If Jordan was hip, they'd get him to do a one. Yo, that would be crazy. Because people would go crazy for because they know, Jordan knows. They know their brand identity.
Speaker: They know he like, he popularized the ones for skating. Yeah. You know mean? I don't think Nike would cut the Tony Hawk check. like he He'd probably just do it. I mean, that would be the move. If Nike SB can get Tony Hawk to be like the ambassador or something like that. Well, they got Costin. He's in the same world. mean, but Costin was always wanted to be. He was like, I need to be on Nike. If you look at Costin's old shoes, he was making like when he was skating for S, he was making basketball Yeah, he was making basketball shoes. know, you know, you know. Because then when he finally came over, was like, yeah, let's do, let's put the Kobe, let's mix a Kobe with this shit. So what I learned too, shout out Nike SB, shout out to Benson, he'd be hooking me up with Nike SBs and stuff like that. Okay, flex. So, you know, I'd be getting Nike SBs. I got him don't know if he could see my shoes. Nah, yeah. That's why I had to wear, I had to try to get him. We got nips. Nike SB Air Max Air Force 1 Nike SB Air Force 1 These are fire Chocolate What I've like
Speaker: ni has b air force ones these are fire um chocolate but so what i what i've like learn to see is because of cost and all these shoes are happening yeah so these are happening because of him the fours are four are happening because of him um i know a couple other ones but i can't really say oh my bad that are happening but it's because of him he he felt that these need these other silhouettes need to be pushed you know what i mean like jordan and sb were never collabing before he was on the team you know that never is that true think about it
Speaker: I was trying because the first one is the Craig Steck. Okay. that's That's a long time ago. I know. Yeah. so Think about recently. Recently. Yeah. like But the Craig Steck, though. I think it started, at or how you ever say it, steak? Steak? Steak? Steak? I don't know. Yeah. But ah that one, where it was like the black...
Speaker: And then you like it was like black or green. And then after that, it was the white and blue where you were I mean, it was the white with the royal and the Chicago under it. You skated it away. Those were ones. Yeah, those are ones. Those are the first Jordans.
Speaker: Those are first Jordan collabs, I guess. But like and then it was after. Yeah, I guess it was. It wasn't. So we had the Lance Mountains, too. There we go. Lance Mountains. That's what I'm thinking about. That's what you're thinking about? I'm thinking about Lance. you're like all over the place. Yeah, yeah, yeah. up. This is secret podcast? Lance Mountains. I got educate him, bro. I stay forgetting. I confuse because of my drawings. Because the same packs came out during that time. The Craig Steck Blazers. I always confuse. Lance Mountain. So you're thinking, so Lance Mountain had the two different pairs of SBs. Shout out to Lance Mountain. His son is named Cyril as well. That's fire. Yeah, I've seen him. I forget where we're at. I'm like, yo, your son is, you know, just chopped it up. I'm like, oh, really? Doesn't matter. Anyways, yeah, he, that's why it's so important that Tony Hawk needs to do a one. Because he always, like, we know Lance Mountain once, but Tony was skating in ones before Lance. So it's just like,
Speaker: Let him do it. Let him do it. Let him do Let him do a ro let let him do a ah like a bread. I feel like I've seen photos of him skating in a bread. um But yeah, the Lance Bounds are sick. They're up there now. They the white pair.
Speaker: You skate them. They turn. And then they did the black pair. You skate them. They turn. so yeah yeah He's cool because you have to skate them to really get the true or put the acetone if you really don't see If you don't skate. yeah And we remember on TikTok, that was the whole thing. yeah With the rub away. There was like... No one would skate their shoes, bro. But they didn't skate. That's the thing about Nike SB because there's a lot of people that are fans of Nike SB and they don't skateboard, bro. No. I mean, I'm one of them. okay yeah But still, you appreciate it. No, yeah. The only reason I got into it is because I love skateboarding. And like I used to lie and tell people that Bob Berquist was my my cousin because I'm half Brazilian.
Speaker: so Why would you do that? Because I'm it to be cool bro so you're still cool with that that was when I was a kid i was like i was like five I'll be like yo yeah you saw X Games last week yeah my cousin was killing me bro One day I'm going sit across from you so I can tell him that. That's reach. have a Bob Ornquist board signed my wall, so that's sick. Shout out to my sister. That's fire. yeah. That's a goat right there. Yeah, he is. What did he do? He grinded a helicopter or something crazy? Yeah. He's done a lot of stuff. Yeah. The big air. Yeah. He's insane, too. Literally. He's so good. He's so good. That's another one. It's just like, give him a Nike shoe. Yeah. Give all the legends a Nike shoe. Chad Muska. You know what they really need to do? You know how we got that pack in the first pack? We got the Danny Supa, got the Reese Forb, everybody else, whatever. They need to run that back. They do. With iconic people like Giv Koston. Giv Koston, Tony, Bob Burnquest, whoever else is in that level or realm. That would be insane.
Speaker: People would eat that up. People would eat that People would be this is crazy because because you guys are paying homage to these legendary people that have like really shaped skateboarding, sneakers, everything.
Speaker: um Who would you put in that pack then? so okay Tony Hawk. okay Tony, Koston. Kareem Campbell? I put Kareem Campbell in that movie. Even though i don't know if he's really skated in Nikes forever. I feel like he was super action. no yeah Stevie was. Stevie's skating in Nikes. But yourre you already know the whole thing with Stevie.
Speaker: He not mess with Nike like that. Bucky Lastic? Bucky would be sick too. That would be the four? No. um It'd have to be Bam Margera because he was the first he was the first person to skate for Nike SB. Did you know that? No, I didn't know that. Bam Margera was one of the first skaters skate for Nike SB. How the hell did that happen? like if I feel like that went under the radar. They needed him, bro. They wanted him.
Speaker: This is like the height of CKY? Yeah, this is like the height of his show, CKY. They had the Nike Chode. That's what they called that i don't know why they called it that. um But he he did one of the first Nike SB.
Speaker: They stopped doing Nike SB. They had the Nike 6.0, whatever, whatever. They came back and they like had him. I'm not sure the timeline, but I just know he was one of the first skaters for Nike SB. That's crazy. But it was weird because... like ah He didn't like the shoe. uhuh I mean, it's named the Chode. No, not even that. It's just that he didn't like the shoe. Oh, like like when when he did the So when he did the ad, I yeah think like, ah i don't I don't know. He like put something over it or something. I don't know. But I just know I did my research. You can look it up if you want. I have to look it up. Look it up if you want. Yes, comment below.
Speaker: Comment below. Yeah, you can look up if want. He was one of the first guys to escape from Nike. I mean. He's legendary though. But yeah, they did a pack. It'd have to be Tony, Costin, um Bam.
Speaker: And then I don't know who else. Like like you said, Bob Burnquest. I mean, yeah. or Or somebody. I'm trying to think. or because Because Brian Anderson, he already. Yeah, he's still hes yeah he's still Nike. I'm just thinking of somebody that's like not really Nike that they could bring into it. Rodney Mullen.
Speaker: ah be crazy yeah you But look, we would eat that up. Yeah, we would. There'd be lines out the door for that. You know, but it's just like, that's them. They got to tap in. Yeah. Hey, unless they want to hire me on their marketing team. They got to tap in and do that. Send a DM. Yeah, exactly. All right. You know, I got the idea, bro. i I eat, sleep.
Speaker: and breed this so it's different for me yeah oh but yeah let's go let's go way way back like I want to know about the early days of like growing up where'd you grow up originally? I'm originally from Lakewood, California so like Long Beach, Lakewood are like neighbors I guess you would say so I grew up there until I was in high school and then i was like all over LA so like Inglewood like South LA West LA all these all these don't all these don't you're from New York so it's just like oh so I was in Brooklyn was in Queens you know what I'm saying was in Lower East Side like so like I'm really from LA but I the start of everything happened in like South Bay like Long Beach Lakewood area for me
Speaker: when did so like When did skateboarding come into your life? I was already skating when I was in like Guam Beach and Lakewood. Shouts out to El Dorado. I skated there. That's how learned how to skate, really.
Speaker: um My dad would drop me off there and then pick me up at night. You had like OGs bringing you or like like teaching you? so no you just No, bro. like Skating, you just kind of whoever's the best at the skate park, you kind of just watch them skate.
Speaker: At the time, Dorado, when I was skating, the Baker squad was there. Yeah. Shouts out to Evan Hernandez. He doesn't get enough love. He's a really amazing skater. Evan Hernandez is sick. P-Rod was around, obviously. i don't know if he really skated Long Beach like that.
Speaker: But like all the Baker dudes. And shouts out to Pharmacy as well. Pharmacy is like a ah Long Beach, like um South Bay type of type of vibe over there. It's like a skate shop.
Speaker: um But i just watched, I would just watch. That's a fire name for a fire. Yeah, it's fire. I would always watch those dudes skate. yeah I remember Evan Hernandez. lets That's when I was just like, I really want to skate. So I was a kid. i don't know how old I was.
Speaker: um This is, he skated for Baker. I'll never forget this, bro. I used to go to the skate park, like catch the bus or whatever, get to the skate park. And he he couldn't even have been that much older than me. Maybe like, if I was like 12, 13.
Speaker: He was like 16, 17. I this dude pull up in the bins. I'm like, this is, I'm like, y'all making money like this? TK as well. yeah TK as well. just like,
Speaker: y'all making money like this, you know? um was like, damn, I gotta step it up. You know what mean? As a child, or like, not even a child, like, you know, you you know the concept of money back then, even like you're 13, 12 years old, you're like, damn, that's a nice car. I'm like, you scared for Baker, you make money like this? Like,
Speaker: damn you know but shout out evan hernevis people don't talk about him enough he's he was fire he was p-rod before p-rod yeah yes i don't have to go i probably am familiar evan hernandez is a p-rod before p-rod was a p-rod but shout out to p-rod yeah shout out to p-rod did so then from there you were just like i need to go pro that's the that's the thing like i just had the passion for it it wasn't it wasn't about going pro because like I skated a lot when I was a kid, got went to high school, kind of fell off the skating, and then as soon as I graduated high school, got back on it. And that's when I actually started to realize i'm um um you know i'm i'm I'm naturally good at this. um And then I started getting sponsored.
Speaker: So it kind of like went backwards, really. i had to like press the rewind, but it makes sense. But like, I mean, I guess explain that part because. Okay. So after high school, like high school whatever, i wasn't worried about skating. I would skate a little bit like, oh, give me your board. me do a kickflip. You know, i still had it.
Speaker: but after high school i'm like what am i doing i'm a skate you know i mean i went to college i got an associate's degree in photography um but all throughout that that time i was skating and then after that i got a job and then i was skating on the weekends and like taking trips um and i and shouts out to canal canal new york um i used to skate for a brand out here called canal it was a wheel wheel company and they pushed me a lot and it was dope because like I was just skating.
Speaker: Like that was what I really wanted to do. How did, how did canal find you though? Just Instagram, bro. Yeah. Instagram. So you were posting Instagram. So this is a whole nother story. We need to do 18 podcasts to really explain the lore.
Speaker: So if you're tapped in with me and you know, really know the lore, yeah i don't know how far you want to like what do you know i know a little bit okay watch you die watch you die i still have the instagram name but i changed it i still have the actual handle um but watch you die like that's the thing bro it's just like people are gonna might throw shade but the instagram edit that we know today the slow-mo the music the trap music whatever I created that. hu
Speaker: Literally. Yeah. Like me and my homies, but like, as far as like pushed it all the way out. Yeah. 2015, bro. Look me up. Like you could find a video from 2015 with the slow-mo, all that, bro. And then we really ran it up because as we're doing, we're dropping one and, and, and,
Speaker: i don't know if you remember, it was super hard to get on the Instagram Explore page back then. it was. I was on it every, yeah every, every day. You know and I mean? so and And you got to think about it. like I had to cut these videos up short because it was only 15 seconds.
Speaker: So I had to like really think, like thing how um how am I going to do this? yeah um But it was dope because it's just like it really changed everything. it really like i i hate to say because i don't want to like you know ego whatever but like the way people skate now as far as like instagram edits all of this like i've been waiting to get on some kind of platform to even say it me and my homies changed the whole shit yeah it changed it all yeah because no one was skating like that before like no one was first of all no one's skating to music people were just posting raw clips no one was slow-moing their clips and it was taboo
Speaker: to even post yourself skating. Anytime you made an edit, it was of someone else. Yeah. So I'm just like, I'm about to, I'm like, Hey, film me, bro. I'm about to post myself. Yeah. You know, it was like taboo. And like, that just took off, bro. Like I, I'll never forget. i went from like, I don't know, like 5,000 followers in like 2016 to like,
Speaker: 100k within that in 2017. And then like now people are using my formula to recreate recreate the edits. because you created the algorithm yeah at that point. At that point it's just like shout out to ah Eric, shout out to Burberry um but ran with it you know.
Speaker: Obviously people probably know his name more than mine because he just who he associated himself with. yeah But i could I could show you an edit of him skating to my music in a full yellow outfit like You know, that's my that's my dog. You know what I mean? So it's just like, but like he ran with it. Because like ah as soon as like I started, like I'm like, all right, this is cool.
Speaker: But like now let me take skateboarding seriously and like really get sponsored and and go skate the streets and stuff. He was still doing the edits. And it just all depends how you want to do it. Yeah. However you want to showcase it.
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Speaker: cop a shirt hit me up in the dms or shoot me email at info at myfirstkicks.com i'll get that shirt to you as soon as i can but let's jump back into the episode as far as like what really made it what really made the ship pop like for real made it pop it was we're bringing it back because it was sneakers yeah people were tripping on the sneakers were i know i remember I remember on skating raft. I know. Yeah. Yeah. That edit is crazy. Like, yeah. And told like, I might have a hundred thousand views on my page, but in total, how many times it got reposted? Crazy. It probably has like a mil, like a billion views. You know what I mean? Like that there's that one, the, the Supreme lows, right? Supreme lows. There's a bunch, dude. There's a bunch of like, the shoes were crazy. Like people were tripping on the shoes.
Speaker: And it was just like, we're skaters. We don't care. don't care if the shoes get messed up. We'd be like, yo, these fools are skating thousands, like $1,000 shoes. Like, this is crazy. Didn't you do, like, wasn't there one where it like Tiffany Lowe or something like that? Tiffany, there's a, I skated, but let's do, look, Tiffany, we skated Tiffany Lowe's. We skated Supreme High's. UNC Supreme High's. We skated those in the barracks. I'm trying to think what else. Like, Gucci Air Force Ones. Like, just all types of stuff. We didn't care.
Speaker: you know and Even if we didn't skate him the whole edit, would it would we would skate him. The kickflips would happen. They'd get messed up. They'd get messed up. You'd use them. They'd get messed up. Shouts out to Eric and shouts out to Burberry because he he took it the next level because he connected with Virgil. right He started skating in off-white. I didn't have that connection. I wasn't getting no off-whites to skate in. showed him i like i i showed him like this is what it's gonna take you gotta skate and other stuff that's not skate shoes but when he connected with virgil and he got he was getting canaries and like just stuff that wasn't even coming crazy it wasn't even coming out yeah it's just like obviously yeah people aren't gonna gravitate towards that i mean yeah that getting the virgil link up is crazy it's crazy bro i never got that so shouts out to him. Hey, shout out to you, bro. I never even met Virgil, bro. I never even met Shout out to Virgil, RIP.
Speaker: yeah that That solidified him. You know what i mean? so like If you really think about him, it's more of like Virgil. I'm not saying put him on, but it's just like those shoes coming in for you.
Speaker: And you were able to skate them and make these edits that, like, it it took you to the moon. It took you to a different universe. No, yeah. Because that's what that's when Off-White was the the hottest. Yeah. And then showing that you have that access yeah during that time. Insane, right? Jesus. Insane. was calling, like, yo, what's good? Did I get a pair? What's going on? Are you skating? I'm like, let me get those after you skate. You're skating stuff that's never going to be released is crazy. Yeah, bro.
Speaker: That's bro. That crazy. Shouts out to us. Shouts out us. everybody that was even doing that that's other than that era bro because that era was insane you know it really changed skateboarding as a whole yeah and like people don't like to talk about it because it's like like it's like oh no instagram it's like it's like taboo bro but it needed to happen and we needed something different I think it's like, especially because like growing up and watching, you know, the Zoo Yorks and, you know, like the tape era. Yeah. Right. There was this lull of like, you can't just put out tape. How are you going to get people to watch your tape? Yeah. You know? So like, until I would say Lakai dropping, um, not Lakai. It is Lakai. think like, you're thinking like pretty sweet and like stuff like that? No, I'm thinking about what's the Day One song? Oh, Cheese and Crackers. Yeah. Cheese and Crackers? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, no, you're to, that's too, that's back too far. Do you think so? The DVD era? Think about Cheese and Crackers was like, is Daewon's song.
Speaker: Wait, what's the one? No, not Later. That's the show. um What's the one where the intro is blowing up? Everybody's everybody's coming through. is that Lakai? That's girl.
Speaker: That is Lakai. Yeah? That is Lakai, yeah. that once that Once that started going viral, everybody, you got to watch that. But I got to remember the Well, you will you think girl you you think look of Lakai, you think of like Girl Chocolate. Yeah, yeah. So it's just like they're all make ah all making videos together. Pretty sweet. And then you got that video as well. So it's just like.
Speaker: And the Nike SB dropped the the movie with P-Rod. Which one was that? What is it called again? See, you don't be knowing. I don't be knowing. I got to remember. It's like a weird name. The one that resonated with me was the Am video they did was the debacle. Yeah. That was a good one, but it was like all Ams and stuff. And then there was Nothing But The Truth. That was a skate video as well. Yeah. P-Rod and everybody in it. Yeah, that's the one, Nothing But The Truth. And then they dropped it with the dunks during that.
Speaker: Yes. Yes. Okay. So I do know shit. Okay. But then it was like that DVD era didn't really translate. So it's no it stopped at a certain point. Yeah, it's just like, um so the reason why like Instagram and Instagram skating is so important is because there was a whole time where it was just got get clips. We got to wait for my video part to come out. yeah We're skipping that.
Speaker: And we were making like, you got to think of it. Hey, shout out to boy Walt. Shouts out to Walt, man, because without him, none of this would exist. he was one of the best, if not the best, iPhone filmers yeah ever.
Speaker: Like, hands down, the best iPhone filmer ever. And like when I had to film him, i was scared. This is my boy. Shout out to him. He lives in Florida right now. um But we he lived in l L.A. for hella long. and And all those all those crazy edits that have millions of views are like the ones that are iconic.
Speaker: He filmed them all. And it would be times we would treat these edits like it was a a video part. it would take us multiple days to film it. We'd go home and put on the same shit, bro. Just to come back and hit that spot? Just to come back and just finish the line. To make it seem like it was all filmed in one day. But you gotta understand the tricks we were doing.
Speaker: some of the tricks Some of the tricks that I've done in those edits, I've only done one time. So it's just like, we are treating we're treating these edits like they're our video parts that's crazy yeah so it was it was really epic but that's really my dog bro really love that man because he really changed the way people even film because he was I never I don't know if y'all seen this before him if y'all knew but he was the first that I seen pan and zoom while we were filming oh yeah on an iPhone on an iPhone pan and zoom while we were filming bro like
Speaker: Super far away. zoom in the This is when you had to zoom with the scroll. Yeah. Yeah. It wasn't like you could pinch it. Zoom with the scroll. You get what saying? So it it was different. Like, I'm like, damn, bro. Like, how did you even get this angle? He's like, Pete.
Speaker: And like, good joke. Pete. But it sucked to film him. He's like, he wanted us to film him the same way, but it was impossible. awesome. No, yeah. He's not teaching us, right? He's like, yo, do this. Do this and do that. It's hard, but shout out to Walt. That's really my dog. I mean, I know during that time too when you're skating, you're hitting a round two. Oh, yeah. Round two. So round two, shout out to Sean. Shout out to Sean. Shout out to Luke. Shout out to Chris.
Speaker: um Even though round two is not a thing anymore except in Chicago. we went to we went to round two in Chicago. It still exists. Round two is using my music, bro. Did you know that? Nah. They use my music. Oh wait yeah, and in their show. In their show, yeah, yeah. But they're like, they paid me for it, which was sick. I'm like, oh, hell yeah, y'all are going to pay me to use the music?
Speaker: But ah it was just like the beats. So like, obviously, like, I got the beats made. But I own the beats after, like, because I'm paying my producer. Like, yo, this is my song, this my beat. whatever so they're they're licensing the beat from me so like hell of people in the in in and they gave me like a commercial one time and and in one of their episodes but shout out to them because they like they they they push the music out too bro they really push the music out too like I don't really think about it that much but these round two fans because they're still hard hardcore hardcore fans yeah yeah yeah they push the music out for me I mean they gave me the commercial in like every like you know like
Speaker: in between cut or whatever will be my music in the background. That's crazy. That was crazy, bro. And I was only in a couple episodes. Like, actually, when Sean gave the shoes, yeah I was in that episode. and like That episode was funny. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Pretend were like, nah, we don't got it anymore. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But it was just like, yeah, they're there. Shouts out to them because they're they're a big part of a sneaker culture as well. even i feel like they did it on accident, though, because I feel like that's just how they were. But they like they didn't realize how much they were going impact sneaker culture. I mean, I think it's just like, and just interesting, just, I wanted your take on this as well. Just like community, because like you grew up, I mean, you're growing up within communities, right? So it's like you're, you're, you're within different types of communities. So like, how did, how did that feel to actually have people around you that are like pushing you and trying to see, you know, do as best as you can? It was dope. But you got to understand, it's like everybody, it was dope for both of us. Because like I'm doing my thing and they see me doing my thing. They're like, we want Cyril to be a part of this some kind of way. So it's just like, let's put it let's use his music or like let's put him in the show. But Sean is an amazing dude. Sean is just, he's always giving.
Speaker: Same with Luke. And whenever I see them, it's always love. But it's just like at that time, you don't even think about you don't really even think about what's happening. yeah You know what I mean? i was like they're They're perpetuating my music.
Speaker: and like I'm not even thinking about it cause i'm still making music or whatever, but it's just like now and I got a place where people are viewing and seeing my music. don't got to do nothing. You know what mean? so Shout out to them for that because like...
Speaker: they were paying they're even paying me they like they even paid me to even use it and like then i'm getting paid because they're using it so that was sick but they're amazing dudes bro sean's still doing this thing luke luke has his book yeah he's doing his thing too and chris shout out to chris chris got a whole ass farm he's like he's really doing his thing yeah um but they're you know there They all went their separate ways, but I feel like they're still connected and like they really they shaped a lot of stuff. For me, don't know about for you, but they shaped a lot of stuff. i don't think i didn't I never visited round two out here. okay ah
Speaker: And then when I finally was like, I'm go down. oh that's gone We're closing. oh yeah yeah So. um But it does suck because it's just like they would thrive now. I feel like it was still around because I think the community aspect is what's been missing out resale stores. And so people just see it as like, oh, no, y'all just pariahs within the space. Yeah. And so.
Speaker: When there are actual stores that are trying to build community and try to actually like create culture around it and like not be like, yo, we just selling everything for the high, you know, that you still have to battle that stigma of being like, yo, this resale store from down the block was trying to charge me, you know, $800 for a pair of brick by bricks. And you're like, why? It's different now, bro, because like sneakers are so hit and hit or miss. I feel like back then everything was going resell. yeah everything but that's weird that was a different era we're living in that off-white era where it's just like the 10 moving yeah you know every yeezy moving i never really wore yeezys but like 10 i never even got my i wasn't even able to get my hands on i mean either them man yeah i remember getting i was on because even this is when they had the sneakers app too but it was like early ages of the sneakers app so you were just like You try to get in because everything was first come first serve. I got, I still have screenshots of you missed out, you missed out, you missed out.
Speaker: Oh man. mean, I still, you think they bringing them back out though. I heard it's not going the same. They're going to say VAA on the side too. I know. Cause they can't use his name anymore. yeah But why is that? You think?
Speaker: I think it's cause some legal stuff. think it's cause now it's in a state. Oh, His wife owns everything. Yeah, yeah. So it's like, it's probably a little bit hard. I need to drop them fours, bro. Yo. I want the bread fours. You see them skating? Eric skating? Yeah. guess just like, they need to get those.
Speaker: Those are fire with like the see-through Johns. It's just like, damn, they're so... sometimes some i feel it though like don't don't release those you know that was for him him and his family whatever and i seen his wife had a photo of them on yeah it's just like don't release them then you know it's archived it's archived for a reason yeah yeah because it's like now it's just like it's such an iconic shoe like it's if those were to come out bro it it would break everything we would have crazy we have right it'll be a riot it'll be riots because it's such a cool shoe we love fours already it's it's literally a bread for kind of uh-huh we got those clear accents accents on it oh my god it's a crazy shoe bro it's like damn you make me want him i know he's just he he's a genius because like that's a crazy shoe it's a crazy shoe i have both the fives uh-huh
Speaker: and it's like it's the same material yeah yeah it's just like yeah i don't know i love those that to me like i even on here i've said it like that's a top five shoe like jordan of all time for me why would say that i mean i just ain't for me like for me i wouldn't say that brother but hey they cool they're cool with it they ain't no top five bro no they're cool they're cool i'll do like a five um You know, so you talked about how like, you know, skating got you into content creation basically in a sense. Yeah. So like, let's talk about this TikTok.
Speaker: Like, you know, like, what do you want to know, bro? I'm an open book. Like, what made you want to jump into it? Like, and start making stuff like that. Like, get ready with me's and all that. Just because, well, first of all, i didn't have TikTok. when and then my friend was like you should download and just mess around so i was just messing around posing random stuff yeah just like whatever you know and i was like let make a little get ready with me or whatever and then did that those started popping off and then like people were like hating on yeah on the outfits huh and i would just like start responding to comments so like i would get more comments because people were like hating so that like they get their hate comment because
Speaker: Then I found out like the hate comments weren't real. They were only leaving hate comments for me to pick their comment. To respond to. To respond to. yeah And then I just ran it up from there. and like it was I got on TikTok at the perfect time because i don't know if you know now, but...
Speaker: TikTok is just like a breeding ground for like get ready with me and like and like fashion creators. I'm going to tell you straight up, bro. When I started doing this 2020 or ah maybe 2019, there wasn't that many fashion creators on TikTok. I'll tell you straight up. There was me.
Speaker: Wisdom. Wisdom. yeah This dude, Mark. Shouts out to Mark. He lives in New York. Shouts out to Mark. I'm supposed to link over with him. um Wisdom, Mark, me.
Speaker: I'm trying to even think. That's fucking it. You know I mean? So it's just like we kind of we kind of gave everybody the formula. You know, we gave everybody the formula. It's just like i was already in the fashion or whatever I'm into. Like you either like my fits or you don't. yeah But it's just like I'm emb breaddded i'm i'm like embedded in that. but I'm going to make these get ready with me regardless. going to use these comments whatever. But people saw that it worked and like they just got on there and did it.
Speaker: You know, like all these other creators that are on there now, they all see my videos. You know, they came in front like they didn't. You're the follow, bro. Yeah, I'm just saying, they came in front like they haven't. Like I hate to be that guy because I don't have an ego or whatever. Like if you know me in person or whatever, like I'm never like- Nah, you're mad chill, bro. Hey! Nah, not. Yeah. No, but I never want to be that guy, but it's just like, because I hate to be like, I started this, I started that, I started this, whatever. didn't start anything.
Speaker: i just want to get in there and post my outfits. You I'm saying? want to post my shoes. want my outfits, what I'm doing that day. But it's just like, people understood that that worked. So like, let me get on there and do this. yeah You get what I'm saying? There's a hell of people that have surpassed me and on TikTok.
Speaker: or used to follow me, on hit the unfollow. You get what i'm saying? I see that all the time. That's like crazy. Like, follow me, leave me comments, DMs, whatever, whatever. Hit the unfollow. They surpassed me because they they they saw what I did. It worked.
Speaker: Surpassed me. yeah You get what I'm saying? They took the sauce. Yeah, know like but I'm not mad at it. i don't care. I want everybody to win. I'm never like, that's the thing with me, bro. i'm there i'm not That's where community comes from, bro. I'm not in competition with nobody but myself, yeah bro.
Speaker: I'm not in competition with literally nobody but myself. Like, If I'm doing better than was doing last year, I'm happy. I'm never looking at the next person like, yo, I got to get there or I got to be this or I got to be that. I'm like literally in my own lane. and I'm trying. I'm always trying to elevate myself. I'm never trying to be like, I got to get to where that guy's at. because you don't win that way you don't win that way there's no one wins that way no you're when you're over here comparing yourself to other people it never works out because it's just like you don't know what it took for them to get there it's going to take you something different to get to where you need to be and that's how i saw it so I was happy for everybody that got to this these other levels but they know where they saw it from you know what mean they know where they saw it from because there wasn't that many people posting fashion content online but now it's just like a breeding ground it's like oversaturated even Yeah. over sat That's why started posting other stuff. That's what I was like just about to start saying. Because, like, yeah the one thing I think that people don't understand with it is that you do have to have charisma. And I think you've always had charisma from the jump. That can be from skating. appreciate you. You know? Like, so that's what always gravitated towards, like, me towards your videos. Because I was like, this is like a dude I want to just chill with. Like, you know? We're chilling. We're chilling, bro. It took a minute. but We got here, though. No, fact. We got here. And I think it's just, like, the...
Speaker: The idea of like, like you where you'd be like, yo, come with me. And you just show a rack of just. but yeah So a shout out to the to the money roll. That's the same.
Speaker: So like anytime I get a one dollar bill, i just put it in the same stack. And like I never spend it. It's like it's like not even a savings, really. It's just like I just have it, you know, it's always the same. Same ones. It's not it's not a fast stack anything. It's the same. You see those ones, bro? It's the same ones in every video. People like, let me hold it out. I'm like, bro, these are all dollars. These are all dollars. Maybe there's 20 on the top sometimes, but it's always dollars, bro. It's just like the first three seconds in every video matter the most. Yeah. You know mean? Even when you're when you're creating and like cutting, cutting the podcast up, you already know whatever this person says. I need the first three seconds to be entertaining. Yeah. Just pull, pull me in. Yeah. Pull me in because you never know. Like people are going to learn. And like, I know you do the podcast for people learn stuff about people. Not even that, not even learn stuff about a person. Just learn stuff in general. Yeah.
Speaker: I don't know if people know watching this, but this shit is educational. Very educational. I try to make it fun and educational because it's like everybody's going through life differently, but hearing other people's stories makes them not feel alone. And so that's why it's just like, I've always loved this or having these conversations where we're like, if we just met in the middle of the street or whatever, this is literally the conversation we'd be having. We'd the same conversation. have literally the same conversation. like, yeah, it's, mean,
Speaker: It's funny, you just brought you brought up the money the money role, and I was like, I was thinking about that. ah You remember seeing the money spread? Oh, yeah. You did that. You got to do one of those. Maybe one of these days. That one kid that has that crazy... Yeah, yeah. You've seen the people do like dude like geometry with you? Yeah. Like, connect the dots? Like... That's crazy. Money spread's crazy. Money spread's crazy. ah But you went to one time you went to a jean store that I went to in L.A. What was a it called? was like I don't remember the name, but I was been trying to think about it since then. Was it American Rad?
Speaker: It probably I think so. where It was like all old, like old school looking ah jeans from like Americana style. Probably American Rag, I feel and it wass like. I know. I've made so many videos. Like an RNG kind of vibe to it.
Speaker: I've made so many videos. I know, man. But probably. You're probably right. You probably are right. But those jeans, I went in there one time in 2017. Those jeans were amazing. Were they expensive? Very. Yeah. Yeah. Because I'm not paying $350. What's good with Brooklyn, bro? Why is all these vintage stores so expensive? Because they've just been ransacked.
Speaker: like it's like We were in Brooklyn, me and my girl were in Brooklyn the other day yeah we were just shopping and just looking at stuff was like, yo, this does not need to be $300. You gotta go to my boy's store on 38th and then got that's, no, I'm talking about that's expensive. I've been really low-key in New York. i haven't like, if you want to see me, hit me. You know what i mean? I'm not, there's we have no schedule. We're just kind of, we're just floating.
Speaker: So it's just like, usually I would come and have like a plan like, I'm go to this store, I'm gonna go to this store. yeah I'm just seeing my people. I know a lot of people, I've been going so, When I skated for Canal, last time i was in New York was in 2019. So shout out to you because I'm here. yeah um But I was't haven't been in New York since 2019. That's why I said I had to make this happen. Yeah, yeah. I haven't been in New York and since 2019. But before that, so let's let's let's go back. So 15, 16, 17, 18, 19. I went to New York every summer for five years. Wow. just and you come here to skate like? Skate. Yeah. So like I wasn't doing the content.
Speaker: So this is the first time I'm here and I'm able to. Yeah. I just haven't. so what i know i want to experience with my girl and like y'all went to see the statue yeah like really doing touristy stuff yeah because before i was just on my skateboard bro like i seen i seen the whole city on four wheels yeah i wasn't even like you know what mean like i'm name that the episode that now that shit is fire so you know yeah i seen the whole city on four wheels bro because like i was telling her like like all this looks familiar i know a lot probably has changed since 2019 you're from here you live here you know a lot stuff is changing like the genderfying everything obviously yeah um sadly but it's just like a lot of change i'm like damn this looks familiar this looks familiar i'm just seeing a different light with her yeah because it's just like i wasn't paying attention to
Speaker: none of this. I was like, this is the skate. and We're going to go skate. We're doing this. We're going to skate here. was trying to snap clips. yeah so it It was just different. I have a different mindset in whatever I'm doing now.
Speaker: um but It's been fun. It's been a very different experience. where where does that like cause I've always seen as you were driven, you were trying to get it. right like and Hearing your story throughout this, you're like, you know I'm really about this. i'm really about this but like Where does that come from I don't know.
Speaker: I just. Because like you could have just stayed in, you know, Long Beach, California. I just love skateboarding, bro. And it's just like, shout out to skateboarding because it's like, it's really changed and shaped my whole entire life. um You know, like I wouldn't be who I was but if I didn't. And shout out to my my older cousin, Kelton.
Speaker: um First skateboard ever rode. was like a baby. don't even remember how old I was, but he just had like a board, had no grip tape on it. you to go down the hill type yeah that's what made me fall in love because he went to UCLA and like he showed me it really comes down to this really bro it comes down to like was skateboarding socially accepted um by black people back then you can know I'm saying I'm skating yeah I'm black I'm a black kid it's just like
Speaker: That's whack. I don't want to do no race car shit, but it's just like, this is white boy shit. What are you doing? I think, I mean, you have to say that. Okay, so skateboarding was white boy shit. My brother didn't skateboard. I got it from my cousin.
Speaker: he went he He went to UCLA. He surfed. He skated. um You know and I mean? but well he was did you... I guess the word they did you see him become ostracized by no he was always cool to me no no by like the community not to you no no he was never but that's the thing I didn't I was so young like I didn't see whatever he was going through i just know what I was going through yeah yeah like skateboarding was not this is this is what people don't understand like that I need to stress a lot and people need to know
Speaker: Skateboarding was not always cool. No. Especially for a young black kid to skate. Mm-hmm. Not cool. You know what I mean? Like, what what are you doing, bro? Yeah. Like, back in the day, like, why your why are your pants so tight? Yeah. Like, what are these shoes? You what I'm saying? Like, this is whack. Yeah. You know? Like, this is...
Speaker: horrible like what are you doing like pick up a basketball like go play football whatever because i played sports or whatever but i always always came back to skating bro and it's just like skateboarding so sick because you always go against the grain and and being a black skater is is very different and special because not not only are you going against the grain, you're going against everything. Because you're not even accepted by some of these like other skaters, these white skaters. like yeah it's just like Not even to make it a race thing because I love everybody. um But you can love everybody, but not everybody can love you. yeah that's so i I love everybody, so it's just like you're not always accepted by everybody when you want to do something that you love.
Speaker: you know um but skateboarding taught me it's a mixing pot, and and it taught me a lot because like even though i i knew at the time like when i like as as i got an adult people started there was more i saw different colors of people skating and it was dope but when i was a kid bro like i was the only i only black the skateboard know it was like that here too at a at a time. Like, you know, because, you know, like people playing basketball in New York, they like, they're trying to go to the league. They're trying to go to the league. So you want to pick up a skateboarder, like yo you're weird, bro. Why do you want to do that? So it's just like, I was the only black kid at the skate park for years. And it's just like, it's so crazy. Look at it now. It's just like, now we got, we got ads of these black kids skating. It's like,
Speaker: it's just like, we, we are like the skate thing. Like, like, oh, black skater. Like we getting casted in yeah whatever. Like we want a black skater to be in this video or whatever, whatever situation.
Speaker: But a lot has changed and shouts out to change. Yeah. Shouts out Obama. Yeah. Shouts out to change. But it's just like, it wasn't a thing, bro. And like, I had to, I had to struggle through that. Yeah. You know what I mean? If you don't have a, if you, if you're not strong, you give up, you give up the, I mean, yeah, you probably built such a tough skin so that you have, you have to, to even keep continue to do this. And like, hopefully anybody that's listening, um, you're a young black kid or black in general, you love skateboarding or whatever. like
Speaker: Or just you love skateboarding. You don't to be black, white, whatever. yeah It's just like it's is hard. yeah It's hard. Not anymore, but it is hard. You know what mean? Because like skateboarding has so many different ways that it goes through. We don't ever know when it's going to go back. No, yeah yeah. You never know, especially with this. i always would bring up this administration going on. You know what I mean? Like, it is very interesting how ah I think race race does does have to be called out because within something like, you know, I use i listen to rock music. and So do I. Yeah. of it Yeah.
Speaker: My best friends. Would I love it if I didn't skate? i don't know. there you know i don't I don't know. That was your gateway. that was it Yeah. I don't know. But I also think it's just like this whole notion of like, oh, yeah, you're into a white thing or like you're into a black thing. Yeah. That's a white boy shit. Why you fucking with that white boy shit? It's just like. It's just like everybody. Yeah. Everything's for everybody. Yeah. It didn't used to be like that. No. It's like everything. Everybody. Everything is for everybody now.
Speaker: It's like you're into this, your alternative, whatever. you know what I mean? it's it's We're living in such a different time. But it's just like, I don't even know who could even say like, even, sorry, who even broke those barriers. Yeah. Because I love Pharrell. Uh-huh. And like, he never he he was never good at skating. Nah. He was skateboard Pete. Yeah. So like, I looked at him, like he was black, he was skating. me Lupe. Lupe.
Speaker: I guess he'd have the kick push it. Yeah. I mean, but that was like music wise for sure. Music wise. scale i would I'd probably give it to you go it's just Stevie. Stevie. DGK.
Speaker: Yeah, I would. I'll give it to him, too. but but But Stevie... Because he turned into hip-hop. He turned hip-hop, yeah. You know? That's the thing, like... It's also... No flex. I've met him at ComplexCon. He's sick. He's so dope. He's so sick. He's sick. he's's He's amazing. Because he's like... He's done so much, bro. Yeah. He's done so much skateboarding. And then chill, on top of that. He's done so much for skateboarding, just in general. Yeah. He doesn't get the respect that he deserves. He really deserves a lot of respect. but as far as like bringing skateboarding to like the mainstream and like making everybody like see it more it's pharrell bro yeah it's pharrell and then like obviously like i guess for the newer generation we we got tyler yeah but it's just like pharrell deshaun deshaun i
Speaker: i guess No, shouts to Sean. Tyshawn. Oh, you said Tyshawn. Oh, Tyshawn. That's very New York, bro. Like, i don't know. Like, I'm so l L.A. It's just like.
Speaker: who's ah Who's a L.A. skater I should be paying attention to? There's so many good ones. Like from LA. There's so many good ones for the list we could go for days. It just all depends what you want to even watch. You know? The only reason I said Deshaun is because I interviewed him. so Oh, Deshaun. Deshaun Jordan? Oh, yeah, he's sick. Just like Deshaun.
Speaker: Nike has B. Yeah, yeah, ah because ty sean d yeah. Deshaun, you're getting the confused. yeah Get your names right. Oh, come on. You know, I'm terrible with names, man. As you can tell, i'm over here calling Craig Steck Lance Mountain. um But yeah, they're both amazing skaters. ah But as far as like, we're getting off topic. What are we even talking about?
Speaker: Just being black. ah It's just the the idea of like liking other race stuff and like being okay with like calling it out. I think it's it's important because ah yes, currently it's very like we can all be into everything. But then there's still pockets of people being like, you're still, oh, you listen to that white boy shit still? You'd be like, yo.
Speaker: chill out bro this is for everyone yeah yeah but like you gotta think about even even even right now can you can you name like 10 black skaters that are like on top like 10 give me 10 zion right shout out zion yeah keep going bro all right deshaun jordan deshaun tyshaun tyshaun uh ah so Young, young young young i'll try me don't throw Stevie at I'm not going to throw Stevie at you. I'm trying to think. God damn, I thought I could do it. Ishad. Ishad. Who else?
Speaker: Who's got, I'm trying to even think who's got a shoe. ah Cater. Shout out Cater, bro. let's Let's start over. hater Cater. Cater. Cater. Tyshawn. Dishon. Ishad. hu Zion. Zion. That's five. That's five. need five more. we need five more. Can even give me five more?
Speaker: that's That's how you know skateboarding is still very, yeah very white. Give me five more. Try. Try to give me five more. I have a couple in my head. But try to give me five more.
Speaker: Damn. I'm drawing blanks. Without like like, not going old. Don't go old. You're talking about right now.
Speaker: Maybe I'm not. I'm trying to think. I know. Like I see a couple. I just don't remember their names. Like I watch a lot of quarter snacks, bro. I'll hear about with names. Yeah. ah Name somebody. give me yourself Give me one. Just give me two more. Give me one. I'm waiting for you to give me two more. I know. I'll be watching skating still. I know. I'll be watching skating still.
Speaker: Troy Gibson. I don't know what Troy gets. gets for Supreme. He's fire. Yeah. Nakiel. Nakiel Smith. Yeah. Yeah. He's fire. One more because that was. i Yeah. You gave You helped me. helped you. Just give me one more. and that's only eight, gang.
Speaker: Does Sage count? Sage. Sage counts. All right. The Sage count. Give me one more. Oh, my God. what you Because you said Sage with a question mark. Oh, my God. Give me one more. ah We can't get to 10.
Speaker: Can we get to 10? Can we get to 10? We need two more, bro. That's 10. Look how hard this is. This is hard. It's racking my brain now. ah This is a clip. You got to clip this. know. This is definitely going up. um I'm out.
Speaker: There you go. We got to A. I was close. That's good, though. But it's just like, damn, skateboarding is still white-dominated. Like everything else. Like a lot of other stuff. Yeah, yeah. know I mean? We have to break Extreme sports especially. Yeah, we have to break down walls, and it sucks because it's just like, these people are so – all those names we just – Kater is one of the best skaters in the world to me.
Speaker: You know what I mean? Kater is one of the best skaters. I've watched him skate since he was a kid. um he's He's local. You know what I'm saying? He's from my LA, from the Valley. And he just got his first signature shoe. Fire shouts to him. Shouts out to Kater.
Speaker: um But he he's one of the best skaters in the world, bro. You can't even put a lot of these skaters next to him because he's better than them. Yeah. Like not even to compare skill.
Speaker: He is just naturally talented. He treats skateboarding like it is basketball. Yeah. It's the Olympics. yeah Every time he goes to skate, like I've never seen him. He just he always is impressing me.
Speaker: And it's just like crazy because I've known him since he was a child. And like, I'm very impressed. And it's like, you are one of the best skaters. You are a black man. And it's just like, there's not that many of us doing this. Yeah. Yeah. Look at us. We only got to eight. Uh-huh.
Speaker: And it's also, but but I blame myself for that. yeah but But same with me, bro. Like, There's not even... There is 10. We know there's 10. It's so hard for us to get to that. We also need that representation too. We know we do. I'm not putting myself on that list. I was going to say you. I'm not that good, bro. I got a couple little ads or whatever back then, but I cannot compare myself to these. You can hit a tray.
Speaker: That's a flat ground. That's a flat ground. I ain't training down no 15 stairs. I've seen these these people do. Nah, yeah. Deshaun, he just recently hit that rail. on That 5-0, yeah. He's nuts. he's wild. He is actually insane. Yeah. Same with Tyshaun. Yeah, yeah. Tyshaun doing the. Tyshaun, like, i feel like he treats skateboarding like,
Speaker: Baby O'Shan though, does he count? No. damn No, he doesn't count. He's not in the same realm as them. Shouts out to him though, but he's not in the same realm. No, he's like, he's the he's the he's he's like me. He's internet personality. It's different. He's good, but I'm not putting him in the same category as like catered, Deshaun, and Tyshaun. And he knows that. yeah you know He's definitely not.
Speaker: definitely not but hey but shout out shout out to bro shout out to bro so we're towards the end of the podcast okay and it deals with a little visualization got five minutes I know that's why I looked there and it deals with a little visualization want think back to young Cyril I'm saying that right young Cyril no you said my name right all right cool lot of people say Cyril Cyril Cyril yeah it's not Cyril it's not Cyrus also it's a fire name thank you it's Greek yeah I know I don't know you're half Greek no
Speaker: But young Cyril Yeah He's about to get The the Jordan ones Right ah Now you're Older you Behind your younger self What would you tell Your younger self As he opens that box Skate him Skate him bro Skate him Wear him You know what mean This is not Sneakers are not sneaker Sneakers are a statement.
Speaker: um They're not can also just be looked at. you know All the shoes that I wear. I have a lot of stuff. So it's different for me because I get sent a lot of stuff as well. But everything that I physically buy or want to get or been thinking about, like they all hit the ground. and yeah They all hit the ground. So it's just like really really wear your stuff. you know Skate your stuff. I'm like an advocate for that. Really skate your stuff. yeah you know if if If you love it, then you got to wear it. You got to show these things that you love it. I know we're talking about something that's an inanimate object. But we love it, bro. We love it. It really sneakers...
Speaker: sneakers bring people together like we're together because of it you what I mean so way ah wear it wear your kicks wear your kicks man don't just look on they're not trophies yeah they are they are in a sense they could be trophies on your feet as well they mean trophies on feet the i mean you you definitely have talked spoken about like you know so a lot of these sneakers have stories within your collection yeah and We didn't even tell one of them on this episode. What's one you want to know? You know the collection. Which which was sneaker do you want to know about? ah The chocolates. Let's do a real quick story about the chocolates. Getting the chocolates. So, shout-outs out to eBay, first of all. Shout-outs out to eBay.
Speaker: Hopefully, they sponsor your podcast one day. One day. day. Shout-outs to eBay. I went on this um this sneaker game show. And obviously, I'm going to win because I'm the only person there that really knows about sneakers. So I won. Right.
Speaker: I won a pair of the CPFM dunks. Uh-huh. crystal. The crystal joints. Yeah. Fire. Yeah. Fire. Won those. I was like, they were like a size too small. Eight and and a half. I'm like, I'm never going to wear these. Wait, which these are the silver ones or the green Silver ones. Okay. Fire. Still like $4,000. $4,000. $5,000 shoe. those.
Speaker: I don't know if eBay's even heard this story before, it but they probably know probably by now. i won those um and i was like i can't even fit these bro i'm not gonna like these ah i got a trophy already they gave me trophy because i won now i have the shoe now i'm hitting on my sneaker people like yo i'm trying to trade these for something that i really want yeah it's not a shoe that i really want so don't know this l trade at the time because they're not they're they went up more now than when i had them yeah i traded the cpf to m dunks for the chocolates uh-huh
Speaker: That's a dub to me. And gave them $200 on top. Oh, I mean, that's still a dub. Chocolates are a legendary pair. That's one of those shoes I've known about, and they've always been expensive. Even back in 2002 when they came out, they were still like $500, $600. They were never obtainable. yeah for anyone yeah you know because when they drop they sold out that's when sneaker culture was like you know there was no internet really yeah they sold out and that was it you couldn't you couldn't get them so yeah i had to trade for those yeah not having my collection i was hoping you warmed up today i know i didn't i didn't bring them bro i didn't bring them those those are i gotta be careful those fall apart that's 2002? It was 2004 and they were falling apart. Are your souls separated? Yeah, close. When you do the thing, I'm like, oh, okay.
Speaker: I'm already on. everybody know where to find you, man. ah You can find me on Instagram. Cyril Roy Palmer. TikTok, same handle. yeah YouTube, same handle. yeah So that's where you can find me.
Speaker: Passion content, park on all that. All that. All that. You know where find me, who is Hassan on social media? Follow podcast My First Kicks pod. Hit me up with your My First Kicks story info at myfirstkicks.com. Don't forget, I got a Patreon. It's only one tier, $5 tier. You get the episode day early. You get extra content. Help your boy out.
Speaker: Try to get in the studio, you know, as often as possible with that. And then I'm going kick it to myself to do the outro. Peace. There you go. ahpi We done. I hope you enjoyed this week's episode with Cyril Palmer. Yo, this episode is a long time coming. Like, you know, just in the beginning of the episode, i like I said, he was one of the first follows I gave on TikTok.
Speaker: And i found him just to be super personable, super charismatic. And he pulled me in immediately with his content. me being such a huge skate fan and also just loving SBs and just his approach to just how neat and clean his aesthetic and how he's just like super happy, super just down to earth in his content that I was just like, yo, this dude's dope. But, you know, over the years of making this, you know, trying to get on his radar to get him on the podcast, even when I was doing it only just via Zoom, um I was like, yo, we'd love to have you on. We'd love to have you on. And, you know,
Speaker: that's I always credit everything you know to just the universe. like You put it out there and it will eventually happen. You just got to be patient. And you know one day he just messaged me. He said he wanted to pull up and I was just like, hell yeah, let's do this. cause i i just think it's just like when will you put just like your heart into something or you're very passionate, it just becomes undeniable. And, you know, one of my, i guess, my tweet posts,
Speaker: You know, that that Sakji said to me on my episode of his podcast was like, you know, you wanted to be undeniable. You posted in the beginning of this was the previous year that I wanted to be undeniable. And so this was like a culmination of that in some sorts, because.
Speaker: I do get a lot of no's. Not currently, not to toot my own horn, not currently right now, but over these past six years, you get a lot of no's. A lot of people are trying to figure out if you're in this for flash in the pan or you're in this for the wrong reasons, you know?
Speaker: This this thing of ours, this love that we have for streetwear, sneakers, you know, music, comedy, all these things that really that you know grow into the fabric of our everyday beings. And I'm pretty sure it's some of the reasons why you listen to this podcast, because I'm talking to some people that you're just like.
Speaker: oh snap like this this is dope like or they do some dope stuff or they are inspiring or there are people that you know you've been following for years like these are things and scenes that we see constantly um just get infiltrated and just become bone dry and people get elevated to a certain point and you don' and you think they're you know they're in it for the right reasons. But at the end of the day, they really don't. they They really don't care about the thing because they didn't really grow up in it. And I think once it comes to social media, it's very easy to portray. It's very easy to make the next celebrity. It's very easy to kind of
Speaker: just use the thing up, use the passion, use what we all have fell in love with, and then kind of sell it back to you and be like, you need to buy into this because I think, you know, I'm getting access to stuff that you haven't seen before. And so,
Speaker: I think once it comes to just what we represent of the people that are are kind of in it for the the right reasons, like you got to you got to keep them close to chest like you got to you got to see what people are about. And I have No. um no qualms against that. Like in the beginning when I first started, and this is like, this is definitely what I wanted to talk about at the, uh, at the end of this episode. In the beginning, when I first started, you know, you, you get a lot of no's and, and most of it is because people think that like, they don't know you and you kind of have to accept that. That's probably the hardest thing and the hardest hurdle I had to get over when I first, the first couple years, when I first started this podcast of,
Speaker: the What's the answer to who are you? right and it And it can't come from a ah ah a place of disdain where it's like, you don't know who I am, or it can't come from a from ah you should know who I am type of vibe. Right?
Speaker: I've always treated every single person I've reached out to every single person I've met in person in person, every single conversation I've ever had as like, yo, this is an everlasting impression. This is my one chance. This is my elevator pitch. This is my one let's see if we can connect. like on ah Not like on a business level, on ah on a personal level.
Speaker: And I think these, in the long run, because of that, I think a lot of people have really resonated with me or really want to take the time to get their story out or get some stories out or get to know why I'm doing this. Because i do feel like at the end of the day,
Speaker: That I've turned this into something where people want to get to know me. It's not... It's not... ah And it's like the the podcast... And this is... i mean, this is a lot of self-reflection right here. But this is like the the craziest revelation in my head of like...
Speaker: i I thought that I was putting this on so that I can get to talk to people that I have always wanted to talk to. And and the whole point of me, whenever I reach out to somebody that wants to do the podcast, there it was like, you we got to get your story on. but and And I don't... it's it's It's interesting to be like, once I finally get the person in front of me and the sit down, such like this episode...
Speaker: It was very like, want to get to know you too. And it's like... it's very It's very interesting, right? Like, Cyril, this guy, after we finished this episode, we hung out after, and i took him to dope pizza spot that's near the studio. We hung out, and we had, like, really good conversations, and, you know, I walked away with being like, yo, this guy is very similar to me. Like, we both wear our hearts on our sleeves. And, like, I mean, look, I'm pretty reserved in ah and certain senses. I mean,
Speaker: I definitely give as much as I can in each and every single conversation where I'm like zapped, but it's interesting to hear and see the way we interacted. And, and I hope y'all took that from this episode where he's such a good guy and, you know, he wanted to know about me and we, we, I got some stuff wrong and he, he corrected me on it. And like, you know, we just kept it moving. Right. And so,
Speaker: I think like him getting to know me as well, like we still continue to to talk since that episode. And you know a very long long ago episode um with Keeley, I definitely was talking about my friendships and you know why I'm not able to build on top of the conversations I'm having on this podcast to to build relationships that you know help further this along. And I see myself from that episode.
Speaker: Check that out, Coffee and Tirade. Coffee Fueled Tirade, I think is the episode's name. um I see myself in that episode thinking about who I can become. And then I think about myself now. And even the episode I just recorded today or even this episode with Cyril,
Speaker: My ability to connect through the this, whether you're listening to this on audio or video, um or even my ability to get now these people that I've been, like, hoping I could get to sit across from even so long ago,
Speaker: like I have to say i am proud of myself um and I'm proud of just the conversations I've been able to have and I'm proud of you know not giving up on this because when when I found Cyril back in the day and I started that TikTok and I started this journey i was on, i never thought that the amount of growth that I can have within this time would all attribute to me putting myself out there in the instance of a TikTok, in the instance of this current, you know, form of this podcast.
Speaker: It's been a hell of a journey and I'm, and The reason why I have to call this out is because we're on the road to 300. This episode 294. It's crazy. next week, will five episodes 300. I'm I'm excited. ready see what after 300 the reception will be. But...
Speaker: i'm nervous i'm excited i'm ready to see what after three hundred like the reception will be but I'm just glad that y'all tuned in to this one because this one was fun. And and I hope y'all enjoyed it. Please leave a cleave a comment.
Speaker: If you've gotten to this point, you've gotten to the end, you please leave a comment. But, of course, we've got to do Patreon shoutouts since we're at the end of the podcast. So let's start them up. We got Adam Neustadter. We got Ross Adams. We got Fresh Poetic. We've got Jesse Jesse G. We got Plox. We got Derrick Hawkins. We got Jordan Kaiser. We got Samia Grandpied. We've got Sean Hates you We've got M. Dot. And, of course, we got AD Sneaks and Creative Thought Media.
Speaker: I appreciate each and every one of y'all for signing up for the Patreon. Extra content is definitely rolling out. i'm I'm making sure I'm like so behind, but I will make sure that a lot of this extra content I've been talking about for the past couple episodes will be out. We've got Substack, Substack.com.
Speaker: No, whoishoss.substack.com. Check that out. My writings will be on there. Just stuff that I don't want to ramble on at the end of an episode like this. More precise and with research sometimes. But I appreciate y'all for tapping in with me because this means a lot to me. I mean, i can't believe I'm about to put 300 episodes out because...
Speaker: I remember when I wanted to quit at like 20. I remember when I wanted to quit after Ify left. I remember wanted to quit like when I was struggling to get guests. And so, hey, we here, yo. We here next week, 295. And I, yo, I just recorded this episode today. This is Wednesday. This episode is going to be out this Friday. I'm going to edit all this right now.
Speaker: And the guest I sat down with for 295.
Speaker: crazy. I never thought I would ever sit across this person. And I guess I have lined up for 300. You have no idea. But I appreciate you for tapping in this week.
