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Max Allegri To Be Man Utd Manager? What To Expect From Erik ten Hag’s Possible Successor (Clip From Q & A Pod)
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According to the latest Man Utd transfer news, former Juventus and AC Milan manager Max Allegri could replace Erik ten Hag as Manchester United’s new manager if the Dutchman is sacked. What can we expect from Allegri if he takes over at Old Trafford?
The Italian Football Podcast patron Giuseppe sends in a question wondering what Nima Tavallaey and Carlo Garganese think of the troubles the new Juventus signing is having.
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Transcript
Introduction and Listener Feedback
00:00:02
Speaker
Welcome then you should be all to right. One, he's got three points. He says, I love the podcast and the Q&A is becoming my favorite part. I love how it allows you both to just be yourselves and go off on tangents with great personal stories. Keep them coming. the Italian Grazie Mille. football podcast. Two, he says, rumors of spreading the allegory might replace ten Haag at Man United. If it happens, does he house his way to Europa League Championship and get Man United back in the Champions League?
Could Allegri Replace Ten Hag at Man United?
00:00:45
Speaker
I would guess this is an appointment that Carla would approve of since it's the EPL and not the Italian national team of Celia. I would love that. I would absolutely love that because it would just tick every box for me. It would get him out of Celia. It would get him out of the Italy national team job and he would go to like the ultimate banter club. in English football Manchester United right now, but how well would he do?
Challenges for Managers Post-Ferguson at Man United
00:01:13
Speaker
It's a difficult one. It really is a difficult one because you look at
00:01:18
Speaker
There's a number of aspects here. Number one, the the the club, although obviously Sir Jim Ratcliffe has come in at the beginning of the year and he's taken over the football operations and he's still quite reasonably new into the job and he's appointed, he's completely changed the structure and the upper management of the club with new appointments, transfer chiefs and sporting directors and and all that. And they're still in the early early phase. that They haven't had a good summer market though, um in in my opinion, at all.
00:01:47
Speaker
but but But there's question marks over still kind of the competency in terms of how the club is run on ah on a sporting level. And while that is the case, I think it's going to be difficult for for any manager because we've seen since Alex Ferguson left, every single manager there has basically failed. And yes, some of those managers have not been many nights level like Ollie Kona Solskjaer, David Moyes for example, but there's also been some legendary managers there. There's been Jose Mourinho, there's been Louis Van Hal, okay, maybe both of them were past their best when they went there, but the fact that every single manager, now it's Tenhaag and before that there was Ragnik was in there for a while as well, the fact that every manager has failed
00:02:33
Speaker
It can't be that every single manager is 100% of blame, can it? Or even 50% of blame. It has to be that there's obviously a bigger
Can Allegri Change Man United's Fortunes?
00:02:41
Speaker
reason there. So the idea that somebody like Allegri can suddenly go in there with all these problems off the pitch and suddenly, you know,
00:02:50
Speaker
Resolve that whether it's a leg or whether it's pet quad unless it's I think somebody that can literally just take over a whole club of a content for example I just think there's too many problems there structurally off the pitch that to expect the manager to come in and and Suddenly change things and you know, he could I think a legary people know my opinion though I think he's clearly kind of like past his best and and that was shown at Juventus in the last three years, despite their problems structurally and off the pitch, he could never really raise the level of Juventus. So the idea that he could come in into United and suddenly raise them to the level of teams that are clearly superior in terms of how they run and the quality of the teams. You can't say that Man United compared to Man City or Arsenal
00:03:35
Speaker
or Liverpool. I mean, they're way off those clubs. So the idea that Allegri could come in and and suddenly bridge the gap, um I think it's unrealistic. It's unrealistic. Wherever your opinion on Allegri is. I just don't see him going to Manchester
Allegri's Interest in Man United
00:03:50
Speaker
United. i I don't think there's any interest at this point in his career for him to to go there. I think this is just nonsense because the same then I saw a ridiculous rumour that ah Inter Simonin Zaghi is their number one target for the middle of the season and you know Inter are considering Jurgen Klopp and it's like I know it's a slow news day guys but you know calm down it's not gonna happen but I still think Gareth Southgate is who they're going after which I think is absolutely hilarious um and I hope they get him because I don't want Allegri there
00:04:28
Speaker
I don't want Allegri there. I want allegri and think he would do a good job. He he was all he's all he would always do a good job. He did once move to England a few years ago because he started learning English for that express express reason before he left Juventus the first time he left Juventus, which is like over five years ago now. So obviously time has passed since then. He's a bit older now um as well. But you know so he did have ambitions to move to England. So if he did actually get concrete offer,
00:04:55
Speaker
I think it would still be interesting to see, you know, would he take it or not? But I think that, yeah, I don't think it's something that that that would work.
Man United's Identity Crisis Under Ten Hag
00:05:05
Speaker
I mean, there's been, you know, Eric Senhag went to Man United and the one thing that I think everybody expected from Senhag if not the result, is that he would bring an identity. You know, you know what he did with Ajax, I mean, Ajax are one of those teams that always have an identity. And and they had a clear identity with Tenhag with the way they played, wanting to dominate the game, the possession, the fast football, and offensive, expansive football. We haven't seen any of that united. like they've they've They've gotten zero identity. Now, I used to criticise Allegri, having no identity. So the idea that Allegri can come in and give them an identity,
00:05:42
Speaker
I'd be, you know, in terms of offensive identity and then Man United as well, the fans, they want offensive football. They don't want defensive football. You know, they didn't like that, you know, under Mourinho. And it's never really been something that the ethos of the club is to have a ah kind of a defensive counter-attacking coach. So I don't think that Marion well.
Media Chaos vs. On-field Performance with Allegri
00:06:02
Speaker
What I do think Allegri would be good at is that he would certainly saw the surface of the pitch you know, the media circus, the problems that tenhag and the former managers have had with with certain players, the personalities, you know, all those problems being played out in the media, you know, whether it's Rashford or Sancho or Ronaldo before, like that wouldn't happen with Allegri, for sure. That's the one thing a hundred percent he would improve and that they would become less of a circus in that aspect. But yeah, I i don't see it happening either. But it is still is still fun to think about.
00:06:38
Speaker
It is fun to think about but I just don't see that happening.
Ten Hag's Uncertain Future at Man United
00:06:41
Speaker
um I do think Senhag is on his last last legs now because yeah they see they just got hammered 3-0 at home by Tottenham and couldn't even beat Twente in the Europa League, Sam Lammers of all people scored. I don't think he he will last much longer.
00:07:08
Speaker
Yeah, no, i think i I think so as well. But then again, you know, you look at Tanhag and he's won the FA Cup. He's won the League Cup. I mean, it's like, you know, he still won trophies there, which is weird. He's won trophies. Yeah. Yeah. But then so did Mourinho won trophies there. And and I mean, yeah I mean. But Mourinho was right about the problem at United. This is not the same United. That was a mess. And people expecting him to challenge for the Premier League.
00:07:36
Speaker
were not were delusional. he he never got he yeah but i But United don't have a team even close to to to to challenging for the Premier. I mean, their team now is a complete mess as well. I mean, they're two main summer signings where a Bayern Munich backup and and a PSG backup. And then the people are surprised that they don't improve. The team is mad.
00:08:02
Speaker
Yeah, it is pretty crazy. But no, I don't see how likely they are. Simonians, I get a little bit more concerned about because he's the kind of guy who would probably i do well. He'd win the, you know, people like him, people like his football, players like his football. He's, he's a guy who people enjoy, but I'm not sure if that toxic environment is good. He's surely smart enough though, to not join Man United. He'd want to, if he, I mean, if he got an offer from, from, from Arsenal or Liverpool or, yeah or, or Man City, like you'd understand it because they're well-run clubs and structured and everything, but but exactly yeah, yeah.
00:08:38
Speaker
yeah Yeah, and i'm I'm the same.
Pressure on Spalletti Due to Allegri's Availability
00:08:41
Speaker
I just don't. I mean, and also I don't want Allegri to go there. I need Allegri to stay past the presidential elections of the FIGC. And I need the stress so in your voice every time he's linked and Spalletti doesn't do or Italy don't do well in one game. And he's standing there like,
00:08:59
Speaker
like in the in the backdrop looking in yeah thank god the thank god spoletti won his last two games let's hope he continues that until november you know what i do think there's a there's an element of that i honestly think that had it not been for the fact that alegu was available i think i'm not saying it's directly because of that. But I do think that given, look, it it puts extra pressure, doesn't it? It's an added spice and added flavor to this whole thing. You've got Allegri waiting to take over from you.
00:09:32
Speaker
You don't have a particularly good relationship with him. You've never had that. And so I think that was part of the reason why Spalletti kind of recalibrated everything that he put himself into, it because it's like the very notion of him failing at the Italy job and being replaced by Allegri. Like, that's the ultimate humiliation. He's exercised that demon. that So I actually think it's it's kind of helped Spalletti in Italy, just that stress, added max stress.
00:10:01
Speaker
Maybe it's giving him a bit of extra motivation for for for admittedly a bit of an irrelevant cup, but yeah maybe maybe a little bit if it helps.
Allegri's Defensive Style vs. Man United's Preferences
00:10:13
Speaker
We need Max in the background pulling the strings.
00:10:20
Speaker
to so no ah I don't want Allegly any in in any of those mean clubs. Man United are a massive club, but as long as it's run like this, I think Jim Ratcliffe needs a bit more time. to to be able to sort that ship out and I don't think Allegri would be very popular there either. They have ah they have a very they're a club who want to space play a specific kind of football and he doesn't play that football. He can handle the dynamics of a big club but they're too much of a mess. um Exactly, I agree. and And the football they play is not the football he wants to play, he'd give them a structure, he'd give them
00:10:53
Speaker
defensive identity but I don't think he would he's the right man for where United are right now I just don't know just don't see that to be to be perfectly honest with you um so um nah nah nah leave Max alone justice for Allegri and we need him in in Italy is to stress you out just in case quality does something stupid