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AI: It's not wrong, It's Hallucinating

The Noisecast
The Noisecast

4 plays · Oct 19, 2024

It's been a while and to get things back on track, I invited a long-time friend, Dre Bettis, to help me talk about robots, AI-written "newspapers", and Gen-AI Minions Memes - the reaction was worth it.  Have a listen and as always, share if you loved it and subscribe if you didn't.  Tell me I'm wrong: Threads [https://www.threads.net/@thenoisecast] Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/thenoisecast/] Twitter [https://x.com/noisecast] (I'm not calling it by another name)

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thenoisecast: All right. Yes. Yes. And with that, um, you already know what it is. Uh, hello. Good morning. Good evening. Good night. Uh, this is the noise cast and as always, it's your host, Alberto. Um, yeah, it's been a while since we did this whole thing. Um, just kind of life life then, you know, that's, that's kind of where we've been. Um, but you've had a good break. Uh, we're in a better place now. We're going to just.

thenoisecast: get back into the whole podcast thing. So with me tonight, have special guests. Got a good friend of mine. We go back to high school days.

thenoisecast: um My friend Dre here.

Dre: ah

thenoisecast: um And I brought him on for two reasons. One, um I didn't feel like talking to myself. And two, Dre is starting up his own podcast very soon and figured this is a good opportunity to get his feet wet and just kind of see how it all works. Dre, say what's up to everyone.

Dre: It was going on good people. Hope everyone's doing well and hope everyone stays well. Enjoy this listen.

thenoisecast: Yes, sir. Yes, sir.

Dre: I would.

thenoisecast: All right.

Dre: Did you end it up?

thenoisecast: Yeah, man. So, you know, we've been fighting with some, like, technical difficulties. um And I'll be honest with you, it's just like, it's it's like every time we we try to do this, oh, sorry, hold on one second.

thenoisecast: Yeah, it's like every time we've tried to do this podcast episode, something's always kind of happened and we've never been able to like connect. So like I'm glad that we were able to do this, even if this ends up being a very short um intro. So let's see what we could get into. oh We put together and some three stories that we want to just really like look at.

Dre: Okay.

thenoisecast: So the first one we're going to start with is a story that comes from a local um privacy group called STOP.

thenoisecast: um STOP stands for the Surveillance Technology Oversight Project.

Dre: Fun.

thenoisecast: And Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, you know, we live in a world where there's literally a camera in everyone's pocket. ah We're always recording a bunch of shit that we probably have no business recording. um And then we don't just record it, we share it literally to the entire world through the internet. And, you know, okay, you want to record yourself. That's one thing. But, um,

thenoisecast: There's a lot of gray area when it comes to the government and government agencies um using these types of technologies to what amounts to spying on the public.

Dre: yeah

thenoisecast: So that's kind of where STOP comes in. They're very much against the use of surveillance technology deployed ah to an unwitting public.

thenoisecast: So some of the things that they fought for in one were things like um preventing the metal detectors and X -ray machines at subway stations.

Dre: Mmhmm. Mmhmm.

thenoisecast: um Never mind how stupid of an idea that would that would have been, but they sued the city in one. um they've been suing the city ah against the use of drones for handling the 911 calls.

thenoisecast: And yeah, the same drones that you're thinking, the little ones that you fly, like...

Dre: Yeah, how would that work? So we have an emergency, you know, which one, you know, that's always going on in in the city.

thenoisecast: Yeah, look, look shot gunshots heard, right? Reported gunshots, right?

Dre: hu

thenoisecast: So instead of having the police show up, they're going to fly their little drone and record your neighborhood to find out what they're shooting going on.

Dre: Right, yes. I believe set ups in certain neighborhoods. I know I have one not too far from me where are the text I guess the specific sound.

thenoisecast: it

Dre: Post alert NYPD. um

thenoisecast: it

Dre: I've heard them. I'm not sure if you know anything beneficial comes from it.

thenoisecast: So it's interesting you bring that up because the the the technology cost the city something like, no lie, like 200 to 400 million a year to run that specific thing.

Dre: um

Dre: Okay, don't change right Yeah Technology backfire and that is very surprising And as I was just

thenoisecast: And ah yeah, it shouldn't change, you know, like school lunch or something. um but They've realized that it doesn't actually do a good job of knowing the difference between a gunshot or, you know, like a truck engine backfire.

thenoisecast: yeah

Dre: You know, looking about looking into my ah my car insurance and, you know, GEICO has an app. um you know I don't want to shame or promote, ah especially companies that aren't paying us.

Dre: so So, but, you know, they have an app where, you know, they they detect and you have to you have to keep that app on 24 seven and they're literally monitoring you monitoring your movements, even if you're not driving.

thenoisecast: one

Dre: Now, this is beneficial or how they promote it is because if you know keep a good score, if you're if you're a good little driver, 10 and two, you know you can get a discount on your insurance, okay?

thenoisecast: Mm -hmm.

thenoisecast: Right.

Dre: Promote it.

thenoisecast: Right, right.

Dre: But of course, companies don't don't stay afloat by giving discounts.

thenoisecast: Right.

Dre: so what is what is ah coming about and what is being you know expressed by members of GEICO and and insurance policy holders is that who have this app is that you know there might be an infraction that has nothing to do with them. And they're getting penalized because their phone, their the app is is picking up what sounds maybe like a crash or a speeding car, and hanging on these people's apps saying it's them.

thenoisecast: Mm hmm.

Dre: Same thing, you know, going through stories, because this is literally yesterday, you know, insurance is sky high, and I'm like, how can I save? And sometimes certain things that sound too good to be true, it obviously it's too good to be true.

thenoisecast: Right.

Dre: What ends up happening, these people are fighting to, you know, fighting against these infraction claims by their insurance company that tells them to keep their ah app on 24 -7, otherwise violation of the policy.

thenoisecast: Mm hmm.

Dre: um Now what happens is that if there's an infraction put on, even if it's a not your fault, say like, stop it short, because you might hit a car or a car is doing something ridiculous, um that gets pinged as well.

thenoisecast: Mm hmm.

Dre: So every time you get, you know, you get these infractions, there's a chance where insurance goes up. So what happens is a lot of people because same thing that you were just talking about, you know, the app is not able to differentiate what is your issue, what is the next driver's issue.

thenoisecast: Right.

Dre: And it's now, you know, it's becoming this big, big, big issue with with policy holders. They're trying to get out of it. And this figure found that if you try to cancel this, then you're breaking that contract because, you know, when you sign that, you know, agreement policy, you know, page 86 tells you no one reads past page one, if that, so.

thenoisecast: Oh yeah.

thenoisecast: No one reads the the thing. They just hit agree.

Dre: Yeah, scroll down X. Okay.

thenoisecast: Yeah.

Dre: Yeah. So, you know, this same day differentiating the sounds. Uh, but then I guess this topic is on, you know, technology and how cool it sounds, but, you know,

thenoisecast: Yeah, yeah. So, you know, so we we we pretty much understand that, um you know, technology it can be wrong no matter how much you know the makers or the proponents of that technology piece of technology may want to claim otherwise.

thenoisecast: So that kind of brings us back to the story.

Dre: it.

thenoisecast: So stop issue to press release a couple weeks back you know condemning ah New York City Mayor Adams from deploying a surveillance technology that uses facial recognition at city -run shelters, specifically the quote unquote um migrant shelters.

Dre: OK.

thenoisecast: So, you know, no one's asking them if they agree to having their face not just photographed but kept in a police database somewhere and being cross -referenced without their knowledge on any crime.

Dre: Mm hmm. Right. Right.

thenoisecast: So, you know, let's say for the sake of argument you have someone who is staying at a shelter in Brooklyn, but, you know, God forbid there's a rape in the Bronx. So they throw in, you know, they speak to the the victim, they get a description, and then they just start running the database trying to see matches. Now, to make things even more fucked up, if you're here on any kind of temporary visa or asylum visa,

thenoisecast: you cannot get picked up by the cops for anything, even if you're found not guilty.

Dre: Right.

thenoisecast: So it so it keeps this cycle of, well, you got picked up as a person of interest because someone said, um brown skin, five foot eight, you know, wears glasses, low haircut or no hair,

Dre: Right here.

Dre: Yeah.

thenoisecast: And oh, shit, that's like everyone in this um this this shelter right here.

Dre: yeah

thenoisecast: Why not? Let's pick one up. You know, because, you you know, not not to throw shade or whatever, because, you know, I have family that that works for for PD.

Dre: well

Dre: who

thenoisecast: And the truth is, they're they're not really doing any kind of investigative work. They're just trying to meet their arrest quota. That quote unquote doesn't exist.

Dre: bo sort of world Yeah, you know God bless all the identical twins out there cuz you know this type of surveillance when you have human error

thenoisecast: yeah

Dre: all the time, take people for you know just on a very bland and and basic description.

thenoisecast: Yeah.

Dre: ah So you know as we're seeing, you know leaving it up to technology and you know quote unquote advancement and you know what is deemed to you know keep keep us residents and citizens of this city and around the country safe, you know it's it's not doing that, all right?

Dre: But at the same time, also, you know you're putting potential innocent people you know on ah on a terrible path.

thenoisecast: No.

thenoisecast: For sure.

Dre: And you know it's just a...

thenoisecast: like

Dre: so easy way to you know ah put a blanket ah ah around a situation to you know ease either tensions or or you know worry.

thenoisecast: I mean, most of these times, these are political moves, right? So like, for example, this whole thing you know, started out as a bride. You know, the person who is running this program, ah hold on, got the name right here. Just one second. So, okay, so Remark Holdings is the Chinese fire and police surveillance firm that was given the bid to put in these cameras in the city -run shelters.

thenoisecast: Um, Timothy Pearson is the advisor in the Addams administration that pushed for this and even pressured the FDNY to force them to adopt the technology. So the FDNY didn't even want it. and You know, like the FDNY is who's charged with, um, helping to run the the safety at the city shelters. They were like, no, we don't, we don't need this.

thenoisecast: Like, we got people who are in the front who are checking IDs, who are making sure that people are where they're supposed to be.

Dre: Yeah. Yeah.

thenoisecast: But somebody was getting paid and they said, no, we're going to put these cameras in here anyway.

thenoisecast: So.

Dre: but We're at where we're at now.

thenoisecast: And we're at where we're at now. So you know so right now, like the the Surveillance Technology Oversight Project um is currently suing the city for that um and indicating the you know just how this amounts to ah discrimination and harassment on the part of the government.

Dre: so and

Dre: Absolutely.

thenoisecast: And yeah.

Dre: you know It's something you know that's been foretold. ah you know We'll get to that topic. ah And again, marketed as something that is amazing and and safe and you know dystopian.

Dre: I'm sorry, utopian. But it turned out to be you know something dystopian. But ah you know it's definitely you know there's violations that are happening.

Dre: all around us all the time. And it's being marketed as as as a technological advancement and something that's amazing and safe. And it really does nothing for anyone that line certain companies or individuals' pockets. But the overall scheme,

Dre: ah the the broad look of things is it you know it's just technology that technology is faulty and people in power certain people is in power that are taking advantage of that power.

thenoisecast: All right. Yeah, no, 100%. 100%. So kind of, let let's just jump into so into that, like this whole marketing of technologies meant to sound utopian, um but or anything but.

Dre: yeah

thenoisecast: um So I'm going to get right into it. Like AI, AI is the biggest thing um that's happened since we stopped fucking around with like cryptocurrency and realized that and money is pretend money.

Dre: yeah so

thenoisecast: yeah You got hit with the dope coin too, huh?

Dre: Oh, I got like 4 million. Nah.

Dre: I should hold on to it, right? Because I love so much.

thenoisecast: Yeah. So, you know.

Dre: I mean, only I got Zell and Iverson, but, you know, again, in 2024, you know, where we where we were told as kids that, you know, we have flying cars and and ah robots doing all of our jobs and, yeah, AI, you know,

thenoisecast: Yeah, so it's funny you mentioned that one too, but we're going to get to the robots in a minute, but first things first, AI. So this story comes from Axios of their AI newsletter, ironically enough.

Dre: Yeah.

Dre: All right.

thenoisecast: And so, you know, I sent this over to you and, you know, we we briefly spoke about it, but it sounds really weird because

thenoisecast: So there is an AI -powered newspaper, local newspaper, called Hoodlines, that, you know, the whole premise, the whole spin that you're giving us is that they don't need reporters, they don't need editors, they're fact -checkers, AI is just going to crowdsource all the news,

Dre: okay

Dre: Mmhmm.

thenoisecast: put it into an article because AI can write articles now and make these measures.

Dre: And make amazing pictures. Yeah.

thenoisecast: So, hold on one second, I'm going to get right to the article right now. But the long and short of it is, um did this local newspaper was writing about a crime that took place and they incorrectly said that it was DA who was arrested for the crime, except that's not what happened. Um, so, where is it? Yeah, so, oh, oh man.

thenoisecast: And I don't have,

Dre: So this is a This is the equivalent to ah you know copying someone's paper in school but accidentally putting their name on your paper, too and

thenoisecast: Oh man, it's even worse than that, because it's like, imagine if you copied the wrong paper from someone, turned it in, and your teacher said, yo, that's a great paper, here's a day for you. Like, didn't even bother looking at it, just said, hey, that looks like he put a lot of effort into it.

thenoisecast: So essentially what happened is Hoodline starts, Hoodline's news articles, I'm putting that with big earphones out there, starts out as tweets.

thenoisecast: So their AI goes to Twitter, which is such a reliable source of information.

Dre: Sorry, what's Twitter?

thenoisecast: Oh, X.

Dre: Oh, oh, okay, that, yeah.

thenoisecast: X, that thing. Yeah, so they go to X, they pull all the local news and they throw it together and turn it into a news article.

Dre: Oh, fun.

thenoisecast: A human being every second.

thenoisecast: so

Dre: okay

thenoisecast: they use So not only did they incorrectly report that the DA of this ah community was arrested for this crime, they then quoted the same DA's Twitter account saying that they arrested the person that was involved in this crime. So it's basically just fucking up on on every account because it doesn't know what to do with that information.

thenoisecast: so

Dre: So, you know, it's, you know, even though I haven't done use the AI on on the

thenoisecast: You know.

Dre: comp computere I sound old right now, on the computer systems or whatever, computer systems. and you know But like when you ask AI or whatever you call it, to to create a photo of such and such, and then they do their best, but then they add feet as hands and they they put two heads and stuff that, it almost looks good from a distance, but as you get closer, you're like, this is fucked up. This is not good at all.

thenoisecast: Yo, since you mentioned that, have you seen the um Christian Minions, A -I -R, that's a little more like Facebook?

Dre: ah

Dre: I have not seen it, but I need to look it up.

thenoisecast: Yo, Google that. Like, just put, like, Facebook Christian Minions.

Dre: I'm gonna do it right now.

thenoisecast: Yo, it's wild.

Dre: check

thenoisecast: And then there's a whole bunch of like, there's a whole thing also that's kind of like Facebook driven, but it's like, um, is it Facebook or was it, was it, it might've been Instagram, one of them, but basically there is a restaurant in Austin, Texas that was getting all these likes was getting, you know, like they got real famous for a croissant that was shaped like a hippo.

Dre: Hmm. Okay.

thenoisecast: Um, but the croissant never existed. The restaurant never existed. And today they're a website that is weird, but also sells t -shirts of the croissant hippo.

Dre: The croissant hippo of a restaurant that doesn't exist. Purpose of a restaurant is to eat. No one has eaten anything because it's not real.

thenoisecast: And you're in like millions of likes and follows and reshares and the whole bit.

Dre: Well, I'm on the the Christian Minions, is what she said.

thenoisecast: Yeah, yeah.

Dre: Yeah. Wow.

Dre: Whoa.

thenoisecast: yeah So as someone who is, I will describe myself as terminally online, like this shit just like pops up on my feet from time to time and it makes me do a double take and say like, what the fuck is going on?

Dre: OK.

thenoisecast: So to get a normal person's reaction is like amazing to me.

Dre: You know Different different view of minions Wow, okay You know what they you know stuff like it's crazy how it could just be done just like that and

thenoisecast: ah

Dre: you know But it's also one another aspect when you know photos are created. you know real Real things, but you'll see it in and news certain news stories now.

thenoisecast: Yeah.

Dre: I'm not going to get specific, but you know they'll add people to it. You know, with my eye, I could tell i pretty much tell what's real or not, but things that have been pushed out there and people run with it like it's legit.

thenoisecast: Yeah.

Dre: I'm not gonna say specific, but...

thenoisecast: Yeah, well, no, I mean, like, I'll tell you like one, one example that comes to mind is remember when everybody was sharing the video of Nancy Pelosi, supposedly she was drunk.

Dre: well Yeah.

thenoisecast: And then it was just like, Oh, that was just like made with AI. And everybody was like, Oh, but, but that one was like, you could tell that one was fake.

Dre: yeah

thenoisecast: And now, you know, there, I saw something about, and I haven't gotten the calls yet, but like. Be on the lookout. If you're registered to vote for any party, don't be surprised if you get a call from, you know, your, your party's candidate telling you to not go to vote on election day. And it sounds just like yeah the candidate, right? Because they're all, everybody's using these AI, deep fake things to like fuck with people essentially.

Dre: really, you know and no disrespect to any other generation but those things are really meant for like baby boomers to easily fold and

thenoisecast: Oh, yeah, yeah.

Dre: Really believe, be like you see in the emails, you'd be like, oh my God.

thenoisecast: It's like, yo, Kamala Harris wants to go and have coffee with me. It's just like, no.

Dre: President Obama is emailing me this one.

thenoisecast: It's just like, yeah, it's like, it's wild though. Like it really is wild because it's just like, we're we're in a place where these things are so easy to do, right?

thenoisecast: Like, you know, before. you'd have to like pay a really good actor to be this person. And even then, you know it was hard to like get people to say, oh, yo, Nancy Pelosi is out here drinking.

Dre: Yeah. Oh, yeah.

thenoisecast: and

Dre: It can do it could be so detrimental to you know a totally innocent person. ah On the flip side, ah no ditty, but it could help someone you know that is fighting a case say, that wasn't me.

Dre: I'd never, why would I do that? you know that a i And you need to prove that it was me, but I'm telling you that was never me.

thenoisecast: Right, right.

thenoisecast: Right. Yo, not for nothing. It's like, that's a good, that's a good argument now. Like, yo, that's a deep fake.

Dre: yeah Because stuff is so you know it's getting so real. And it's just like, wow. like you know What's going to be next year?

Dre: What's going to be 10 years from now?

thenoisecast: Yeah.

Dre: It came up on growing up in the 80s. And and you know I had Nintendo. And you know their points, are looking back now, I was like, was was our eyes fucked up?

Dre: Because we we oh, these are the best graphics ever. Look at this. I want y 'all to look how real this looks. And, you know, when you see the stuff that's coming out now, it's just looking back at everything.

Dre: I can't even make out what these eight bit things are. But, you know, today, almost, you know, you look like a GTA six or, you know, one of the red.

thenoisecast: Yeah.

thenoisecast: I mean, yeah think about it. Like in a few years, that shit is even going to look like garbage to us because there's going to be some other wild shit that they're going to be like.

Dre: Things from even you know five years ago, I'd be like, oh, this looks dated. you know and But there's there's ah there's a limit.

thenoisecast: Yeah.

Dre: you know I don't want to play a game. um I'm jumping off course here, but it ties in.

thenoisecast: No, it's real good. It's a little bit.

Dre: Because then that's real life. you know you know As much as you know I ah have a ah PlayStation 5, some games I thought, I don't play it that much.

thenoisecast: yeah

thenoisecast: Yeah.

Dre: you know grown -up stuff but you know certain things but i when I play it it's so real like I have to like put it down sometimes a little too much you know but uh you know again back to as as the last story like as amazing as it can be as as great and advanced as technology could be whether it's like helping

thenoisecast: yeah i plan Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Dre: you know sick people or whatever there's also you got that other side you know and damage and destruction

thenoisecast: For sure.

thenoisecast: Yeah, and you know and here's the other thing with um but that last story specifically.

thenoisecast: And we're gonna end it on this.

Dre: yeah

thenoisecast: My problem with um these technologies and the way that they're being used is in the kind of

thenoisecast: We don't give a shit. We're never going to own anything bad that comes out ah out of it. We're going to make some bullshit excuse. So in the case of this completely fabricated story of a DA being arrested for a crime that never happened.

thenoisecast: the you know the quote unquote newspaper said, well, it's not really their fault. The AI was having a hallucination. So it wasn't wrong. It was hallucinating.

Dre: Aw, man. That damn AI.

thenoisecast: So just think about that. like but The more we we sit here and we, you know, like, don't get me wrong. I'm like, I'm all for making life easier. um You know, if there's a repetitive task, I don't ever have to do again. I will never do it again. But, you know, when you talk about dealing with people in people's lives, like, I don't need a wrong computer telling me it's hallucinating. I need that shit fixed.

Dre: Yeah, absolutely.

thenoisecast: So.

Dre: you know ah when you When you put the power into technology, AI, whatever whatever it is controlling it, it's leaving.

Dre: There's no fault.

thenoisecast: Yeah.

Dre: um And at the same time, you can't can't fire. you know Oh, you didn't do your job.

thenoisecast: Yeah, you would you can't even argue it, right?

Dre: i

thenoisecast: like It's just like, oh, well, that's not even a person.

Dre: Yeah, you know so yeah, if it's a ah no fault situation, you know you you have a you have a ah non -entity doing the work where you don't have to pay, doing the work where this thing is not taking off or needs vacation or needs you know sick days or anything.

Dre: it can It can have hallucinations, but doesn't need to take off. So it's just, you know you cannot,

thenoisecast: yeah

Dre: You know, my one point bringing into a religious aspect, not religious, but spiritual aspect, you cannot try to make something perfected that wasn't created by the high of being, by the high of power.

thenoisecast: Yeah. Right.

Dre: So you can try to emulate, which you know I have no doubt is trying to be done with but the creation of robots and and all that stuff. But you know you're never going to get there. So there's always going to be you know issues.

thenoisecast: Mm hmm.

Dre: and it's so you know unless there's a, you know, looking back on who created who created this issue or who was responsible for, you know, looking over this AI news reporter or whatever, you know, unless that's put into effect, then you're gonna still have the same problems going forward and, you know, putting more people's innocent people's lives, you know, in jeopardy.

thenoisecast: Yeah, for sure. So you know we're we're going to kind of wrap up on on that point right there. um you know Just one one last thing.

thenoisecast: um I did share with you a video that was on on what you call it, Instagram of an optimist robot at a Tesla you know event.

Dre: Oh yeah.

thenoisecast: serving drinks so you know number one it turns out that they weren't really speaking to people like they were um it was actually a human somewhere hearing the conversation and then speaking through the robot so it's basically like they they took um you know the this bullshit robot put a ring doorbell on front of it and then had somebody on the other side like talking to people.

Dre: Mmhmm.

thenoisecast: So, you know, it was a bullshit um publicity stunt, which, you know, worked because we're all talking about it now. um But more importantly,

thenoisecast: You know, one of the things that was said about that bartender robot was, oh, um, I just had my drink poured out by a robot and they didn't ask me for a 25 % tip. This is the future. And I'm like, yeah, you can pretty much go fuck yourself because like.

Dre: I, uh, seeing stuff like that and seeing people get excited and, you know, trying to, I guess, not make an excuse, but validate, you know, the, the atrocities of what's going on.

Dre: Like, I don't know, you know, I'm sure we you know can agree on this, but, you know, going out, going to a bar, going, whatever, you know, it's about, you know, social

thenoisecast: It's about people. It's about, like, talking to people.

Dre: you know it's not It's nothing like bullshitting with a bartender and you know whatever it is. I remember they would like I had you know some friends of us, we would go out.

Dre: One of my friends, he was very shy, you know, didn't know how to, it was his birthday, he didn't know how to, you know, pick up women or whatever. We were cool, you know? We just chopped it up, not all night, but a while.

Dre: Ended up getting a number, said it was for him, and it was just fun, you know? It was just like, all right, we still got it. But, you know, it was, you know, when you try to, again, try to, oh, we don't have to tip this person.

thenoisecast: Yeah.

Dre: People tip robots all the time.

thenoisecast: Yeah.

Dre: You know, it's called grubhub. It's called, you know, what eight things that cor yeah yeah you're tipping.

thenoisecast: Yeah.

Dre: um it's It's it shouldn't be about a monetary thing like yeah about a socializing.

thenoisecast: No.

Dre: ah yeah You're lacking that one on one human connection. And that's a big issue today. ah People, you know, you dress up.

Dre: dress up a robot to make it whether it's supposed to look pretty where it's supposed to look you know manly whatever type of robot inside of it is just wires okay sensors and showing the more sinister situation is someone behind there not literally but there's someone behind that robot controlling it taking notes

thenoisecast: Yeah.

thenoisecast: Oh, let me tell you, if i if I were to walk into a bar and see robots, number one, I'm walking out, but number two, if for some reason I did stay, I wasn't saying not a word the entire time I'm there.

Dre: Oh, yeah. And I have a real feeling that a lot of people that that enjoy this stuff will look forward to it.

thenoisecast: I'm like,

Dre: They've never seen iRobot.

thenoisecast: yeah

Dre: Back when Will Smith was cool, that iRobot, he was the one of the few that was like, no, no, no, having these in our house, having these in, you know,

thenoisecast: Again, no ditty. No ditty.

Dre: Having these live amongst us, it's not a good idea.

thenoisecast: Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Dre: you know And it's just, you know to me, you know there's an infatuation you know of having stuff done for you.

thenoisecast: Mm -hmm.

Dre: you know Oh look, thiss this robot can make my drink, this robot can, the simplest task, oh robot, give me, you know, pull pull in my chair. Like, it's just, is is it's one of those things that might've been cool and maybe if you're discovering it in the 1960s, you know, but now it's like, we've, come on, we've we've seen animatronics, we've seen, you know, so much advancement, we don't need flying,

thenoisecast: hey

thenoisecast: I mean, we've been to Disney, right? Like, most most people at this point have been to Disney, right?

Dre: yeah

thenoisecast: And they've seen the whole thing. Like, we've we've seen them do the whole thing. Like, what you call it?

Dre: Yeah.

thenoisecast: Like, even even some cruise lines have, like, quote unquote, robot bartenders. Like, where it's just an arm. Like, I don't care if it's just an arm. But like, don't don't come in my face. Like, trying don't talk to me.

Dre: you know and ah These robots, who ah they were Tesla robots, right?

thenoisecast: Yeah.

Dre: Yeah. All right. So if we're going by the record of the you know the individual running Tesla and ah you know this probably is going to be the worst idea and invention since the Cybertruck.

Dre: I have no doubt. if this I don't know what the plan is as of right now, but I'm sure it's gearing up to, oh, have your own personal robot as as your opinion.

thenoisecast: Nah, I'm good. Nah, I'm good. I'm good. Listen, I'll be fine. I'll ah take my chances um being all decrepit and alone.

Dre: The idea of it, you know, is I'm going to try to get a little Tony Montana. It's not also, it's not also. Okay. Not all adults. All right.

Dre: People think they, what was that? What was the robot from the Jetsons?

thenoisecast: Rosie?

Dre: Ah, yeah. See? All right. Yeah. People thinking they got to get one of those. No, you're going to get something sinister.

thenoisecast: Now you're not getting Rosie, you're getting what you call it, like Hal.

Dre: Yeah. yeah um

thenoisecast: You remember from 2001 Space Odyssey, the little red dot that killed everybody?

Dre: I'm not gonna lie. No, I don't remember I know Yeah, and uh

thenoisecast: Yeah, so anyone who's watched 2001, the Space Odyssey, like knows like the Hal 9000, and it's just like, it it was meant to keep everyone alive and make life real easy for everybody on the space stage. And then it started killing everyone.

thenoisecast: Like that's what you gonna get. And you know what? It won't be wrong. It's not gonna be murder. It's a hallucination.

Dre: A hallucination, no charges, no, it's a robot. What are you gonna do? It's just, you know, but we'll make it better.

thenoisecast: Can't charge a robot.

Dre: Plus you you signed page 86 of the user that you can't sue or you gotta to read all through the olden pages and, you know, <unk> we'll see.

thenoisecast: Right.

Dre: It'll be interesting on on many levels, but, you know, let's look at the Cybertruck as an example of how horrible things could go.

thenoisecast: Yeah.

thenoisecast: Yeah, absolutely. All right.

Dre: That's the future.

thenoisecast: Yo, to the future. Dre, it was, it was a good time man chatting with you. Um, I appreciate it.

Dre: Appreciate it.

thenoisecast: Yeah, no, of course.

Dre: Looking forward to doing more things and looking forward to podcasting on a regular.

thenoisecast: So.

Dre: Thank you everyone for tuning in. Take it easy.

thenoisecast: Peace everyone.

Dre: All right, peace.

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