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Wolves Woes & THAT statement
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Chris catches up with Nathan to get his thoughts from the weekend, before we dive into the statement from Gary O'Neil that is setting social media ablaze!
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Transcript
Introduction and Welcoming
00:00:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hey, everyone. Happy Tuesday. Welcome in. It is me, Chris. And with me today, I am not alone, is Nathan. Hey, Nathan.
00:00:18
Nathan
Hi Chris, hi everyone. I hope we're all doing well. I hope we're all doing really, really well.
00:00:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
Outside of, we were just saying, outside of wolves, yeah, everything is fine. um Thank you for asking. But some you sound, I can hear that hint of hint of resignation as we we know probably where our thoughts and feelings are going to go over the course of this conversation.
Match Analysis: Crystal Palace Draw
00:00:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
But yeah, welcome back, people. um We spoke on the last episode, Will and I gave our immediate match responses over the 2-2 draw at Holmes Crystal Palace.
00:00:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah Nathan, you weren't there for that, you busy living life, living large? I don't know.
00:00:58
Nathan
Always well try, trying.
00:01:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
All right. Yeah. So, um, so before we go any further, I guess, you know, everyone wants to know what, uh, let's run through your feelings from the day.
00:01:07
Nathan
That's it.
00:01:10
Global Sports Podcast Network
We're going to, we'll get onto aftermath and stuff later, but the match itself.
00:01:16
Nathan
Well, I'm sure I'm going to provide a really, really unique point of view here in that I was really, really disappointed. ah I think there's, ah you know, I've i've listened to so what you and um Will had to say, and I echo so many of the thoughts. I mean, overall, just a disappointing evening. I think there's there's so many elements that we're just seeing repeated over and over again, and it's a real frustration and I remember Will mentioning I think you know like some people think it's almost better if we'd have lost that game because Garren it would have been gone or stuff like this but to be honest it's just ah I don't even know what to think half the time now now I'm just like in a constant state of frustration and then
00:02:06
Nathan
There's still a part of me that tries to find these little small
Defensive Issues and Set Pieces
00:02:09
Nathan
positives. And I think, you know, there were positives at the weekend again. And it's it's just frustrating yet again that we're we sat here talking about the wolves as we do and love to do. And and we're still windless.
00:02:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
can i Yeah, before you go any further, it hit me because someone posted it, as we've all been doing, you know, I've been scrolling social media and Twitter and everything looking for um that just more input, more like seeing everyone's comments and all that kind of stuff. And we're talking about the match yourself, don't worry. But someone put a post up saying, because there was an image of that one of the goals, ah obviously social media for wolves are posting the goals, because one of the few things like our goals that is good they can safely talk about, I guess.
00:02:54
Nathan
Yeah.
00:02:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
And um someone put, when we score a goal, it's a beautiful goal. And I thought it pretty much is. Like nearly every goal we've scored this season, they haven't been like random flukes. They've all been beautiful buildup play with some like brilliant one-touch passing and smooth finishing.
00:03:06
Nathan
Yeah.
00:03:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
and this That's the most frustrating thing is we've looked so good at times going forward. And yet it's just that set piece situations that are completely destroying us.
00:03:22
Nathan
it's It's just insane. It's like none of it really adds up. It doesn't make sense that we have scored 14 goals this season.
00:03:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
No.
00:03:34
Nathan
that that That to me doesn't make sense when you look at other teams that are so far ahead of us in the table. But then what does make sense in our position is the fact that we've conceded 27.
00:03:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
Well, yeah. And I think what drives me insane, yeah, most about what I mentioned with the beautiful goals is that the goal scored against us, dev we're not getting ripped apart by beautiful goals like that.
00:03:45
Nathan
27.
00:03:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
Like nearly every goal scored against us has been, ah ah you know, a mistake, but like leading to just some kind of fluky incident or it or ah mostly
00:04:01
Nathan
Yeah.
00:04:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
right like tragic set piece defending. So it's we're different outside of set piece and box situations like we are pretty solid because we're not getting ripped apart by beautiful play like we are doing to other people to make those goals that you've just mentioned those 14 goals.
00:04:09
Nathan
Yeah.
00:04:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
that That's what's most bewildering.
00:04:25
Nathan
Yeah it's just it's so frustrating because if you can see
Strandlarson's Performance
00:04:28
Nathan
goals every week like I'm thinking about the Guevardio one um city at home I'm thinking about Harvey Barnes again Newcastle at home if you can see goals like that or you're forcing teams to take shots from long range and they've just it's a fantastic strike you go ah fair enough you can kind of put your hands up and if you're losing games like that week in week out which obviously
00:04:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mhmm.
00:04:52
Nathan
we don't but if you did, you'd go yeah whatever. I kind of I can live with the fact that these are all amazing goals that are being scored against us but you know, like I don't know how many more great goals I can name in the twenty-seven that we've conceded.
00:05:05
Nathan
Um I think as you mentioned it's so yeah exactly.
00:05:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
Not many.
00:05:08
Nathan
So many have come from I you know under nine's defending like literally under nine level set piece defending.
00:05:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mhmm.
00:05:18
Nathan
Just follow the man that you started with Like how, i I don't know, like this is stuff that when I've done some coaching in the past, it's the basics. It's so, so simple, but we're just not doing it. And it's not like they've not ironed it out at all, at all.
00:05:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
Can I say something else? I know this is like the, the research today is all social media. I can't help it people, but cause we're all, that we're all on that freight train. Someone else posted or I saw someone posting like a thing about Andy Gray talking about people on the post, like putting Going old school and having people defenders on the post and I'm thinking we are that dire right now Why don't we do that?
00:06:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
Why don't we do that literally go old school? We are that bad upset pieces So put someone on each post literally put a defender on each post have about three people on the line the goalie and one on each post Like get everyone back.
00:06:04
Nathan
to yeah put five put five no put five on the goal line put five put five put six of them on the goal line do whatever you have to do i don't think that's stupid at all i think to be honest it's by any means necessary stop conceding from corners i'm doing my utmost here to not
00:06:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
We're that bad. Is that am I stupid? Am I stupid? Yeah
00:06:30
Nathan
come out of any vile language but just don't concede from corners make do whatever you need to do but just stop it yeah
00:06:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's just I saw yeah.
00:06:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I just I just watched this video of like, you know, goals scored in like the 80s and 90s. And there was always like two people at one on each post. And I was just watching it thinking. given our situation, given the goals trickling in from every set piece.
00:06:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
I was just sad that like, why don't we put someone on the line? That was all I could think during the entire video. And yeah, I don't know.
00:06:58
Nathan
Well, it was, I don't know, this set piece specialist coach that we got rid of, maybe, you know, he was one that brought in all these new ideas.
00:06:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah
00:07:04
Nathan
Maybe we should just revert back to the days where, as you say, there was no set piece coaches. It was, you know, put a good ball in, try and hit try and get it on the on the head of your biggest bloke, and hopefully he wins the header against their biggest bloke.
00:07:17
Nathan
That was just the way it went. and
00:07:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
Well, yeah, but.
00:07:20
Nathan
teams teams aren't coming up with these crazy set piece tactics either they're just lumping it in the box and it's going to an unmarked man or they're winning the flick on and it's going again to an unmarked man it's not like they're coming up with this mastermind of like a you know three passes leading from a corner that have threaded through our centre arths and they've managed to score some crazy flick they're just lumping it in so yeah
00:07:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm.
00:07:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. Yeah, they really are. It's, yeah. And I tell you what though, because speaking of, you know, uh, you know, the big man in the box, Strandlarson mentioned at the weekend, I thought he's, his finish was fantastic given the pressure of
00:07:59
Nathan
It was.
00:08:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
the game, the situation, that he had a lot of time to think about what to do. Again, in football terms, a lot of time to think about what to do and almost looked like it was going to get caught on his feet and and then managed to slip it between the goal, his legs and was just so calm. And he seems to get it like he he not only am I so impressed with his finishing because he's given the situation, he's he's been scoring like some lovely goals. And he's always in contention, like always getting ahead of his man.
00:08:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
And when he scores, the way he is with the crowd and the way he wants to ball back and his ego, like he he looks like he gets it. And I just feel sorry for him because.
00:08:37
Nathan
yeah there's ah there's a few like that though you know i do feel there's a few in the squad that have
00:08:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
But what I mean specifically is not just because of the, the performance in relation to the situation, but because he signed for us in the summer and like, it's like, what did, what did I, he must be thinking, what did I walk in?
00:08:50
Nathan
yeah
00:08:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
What have I committed to? What have I walked into? Because he's doing his job and you know.
00:08:59
Nathan
Yes, he is. yeah ah he still And he's doing it. He's doing it consistently well, right? He's been putting in very good performances. um Well, consistent performances throughout the season, given what he's been having a service, right?
Manager O'Neill's Decisions
00:09:14
Nathan
um And yet again, he's he's there to finish and you know four goals this season already, I think it is.
00:09:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:09:19
Nathan
um it's It's impressive stuff ah you know for for the position that we're in and the way that we're playing.
00:09:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:09:25
Nathan
in and Yeah, he's been very good.
00:09:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
But any, sorry, I, but I've kind of deviated you off a little bit with some of my own remarks, but any more specific thoughts from yourself on the match, whether it's the palace goals or we've discussed set, just the trauma of set pieces, um, our other goal or just the play, the tactics, the substitutions.
00:09:41
Nathan
yeah um not like no crazy crazy thoughts on it i know people were kind of I don't know, rattled a little bit by O'Neill's substitutions in the second half. and But personally, I didn't i don't think they were like crazy out of the blue. I thought it was kind of like something needs to change and it's like, you know, we're one nil down, some something has to change. So I don't i don't have a major issue with him rolling the dice. obviously
00:10:17
Nathan
you know what what he's kind of reacted afterwards so i don't know if he's actually reacting to to the crowd and then you know i'm sure we'll get onto the the post-match stuff as well but um nothing else really i know i just thought again it was like and it's bound to be but it's just it felt again like a massively emotional performance
00:10:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm.
00:10:37
Nathan
And I think that there's many times a season where this emotion that we're bringing into games is clouding a lot of the judgment. Like I do love the fact that Strand Larsen is so, um like cares so much about it all. And I think most of the players do, but I think it does sometimes impact us negatively when we can't keep cool heads in our own box.
00:10:58
Nathan
And I know we're talking again about the set pieces, but it's like the communication between Saar and Strandlar and there.
00:11:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:11:06
Nathan
It's just, I don't know who's at fault there. I don't, you know, obviously there was a mic close enough to pick up if there was a shout from Saar. But regardless, that is a set play. That means that the ball is starting off without moving before the refs whistle.
00:11:20
Nathan
So everyone has a chance to gather their thoughts, get their position. set up defensively and then make the right decisions from there onwards. Unlike every other moment in the game, where ironically Strand Larsen has a cool head when he needs to finish, but when he's had like a moment before a set piece, it's the same for all the other Wolves players this season, they've not been able to keep that cool head and make the right decisions and it's just frustrating Chris.
00:11:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm.
00:11:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, no, it is is frustrating, you know, and whilst I respect the fact that, you know, he, he, he, whether it is, whether you see it as his fault or not, he apologized in one of the post-matches I saw.
00:12:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
He said it was his fault and he apologized and felt, you could see he felt terrible for the situation.
00:12:00
Nathan
Yeah.
00:12:05
Nathan
Yes, yeah, yeah.
00:12:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah You know, he's not a defender, but he does his best when he gets back there too, because he knows he's the big guy. He's got to get, he's got to try and get his head on the ball most of the time.
00:12:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
And Jen usually does okay. But yeah, the mix-up was. That was ridiculous, because Sarge just left in No Man's Land at that point. But even then, Totti, I think, was the nearest to, I forget the name of the defender that scored for Palace on that one.
00:12:14
Nathan
Yeah.
00:12:21
Nathan
Yeah.
00:12:26
Nathan
Charla, Charla Bar, I believe. Charla Bar, yeah.
00:12:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
Right. And um but he as if you watch as he runs towards him, he doesn't block the line of sight to the goal. He's kind of like when you when you're the the defender, right?
00:12:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
you You put yourself between the goal and the ball. And is I mean, that that close proximity to the goal line as well. And he kind of is running at him and almost runs like slightly offset to to him so he can still see the goal.
00:12:55
Nathan
an angle, yeah.
00:12:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
And he doesn't shimmy and into the front of the space, like he's leaving that lane open. And and it's just simple things like that. You know, just just move over, just block the line of sight, because then he has to make another decision, whether it's to cross it back into the you know lift it back over everyone else or play out or whatever it is or just rebound off him.
00:13:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
But he but he doesn't he's kind of offset. So there's other like there's so many other impacts and moments in it as well.
00:13:23
Nathan
Yeah.
00:13:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's crazy.
00:13:24
Nathan
Yeah, and it but is it all comes back to basics, right? The basics of defending is get between the attacking player and the goal, the goal side, follow your man and challenge. If you get beat in the air, if you get beat because the guy's out jumped you and it's a fantastic ball in and you've done the best you can to get up and he might be bigger than you or whatever and you try to put him off and you go, all right,
00:13:50
Nathan
fair enough you know you've done everything you can do in your power to stop that but when it's situations and even i mean go back to the second goal it's you know gre greta's his job with um their captain gray here at the back stick he's obviously you know he's not being matched up with their center half to try and win that header he is simply there to put the center half off to to obstruct his his his run into the box to stop him from having any momentum um going into into attacking the ball.
00:14:21
Nathan
So that one job, you don't need to jump. you don't need to you know Most of the players, 99% of them don't even focus on the ball at all. They just focus on that attacking player and just try and shadow them before they go to attack the ball.
00:14:33
Nathan
And even that, he's caught ball watching.
00:14:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm.
00:14:36
Nathan
But his job in that scenario is not to win the header anyway. Obviously if it comes his way, he'll try and win it, but like he's a small winger who's up against a six foot, whatever center half.
00:14:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:14:47
Nathan
His job is to put him off and to put him off.
00:14:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:14:50
Nathan
You've got to follow him and he just doesn't. And it's like, well, you can have all the best tactics in the world. If the players don't do their job on that point, it's just, it's criminal really, you know?
00:15:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, yeah, it is. It is crazy. And i I know we've got so much more in a moment to discuss the some of the aftermath of it, which we did touch on on Saturday. But before we go and onto that, I will just take a moment to remind everyone a very important point, which is that here at Global Sports Podcast Network, we spent a lot of time selecting our delivery platform. Zencaster came out the clear winner with 4K video recording from your phone and AI editing that automatically removes all those ums and ahs.
00:15:30
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It's super easy to start a podcast that sounds great and is delivered efficiently. If you're ready to tell your story, check out the link in the show description to learn more about Zencaster. All right, Nathan. So given that, like you said, ah Will and I covered a lot of the points, but you've on Saturday, but you um have followed it with some, and I don't know how depressed we sound on Saturday, but I really felt it.
00:15:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
And um but I think because as well, we were did so well to come back from, as it again, like 1-0 down, back to 2-1. And the hope, it's the hope.
00:16:01
Nathan
i know i know yeah i wonder i was just thinking just as i said that i was just thinking if we went two nil down to palace and then brought it back to two two i'd wonder how different we'd feel i don't yeah so it's it's interesting isn't it how
00:16:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
And it's the hope that kills you, right? It's the hope that is the most destructive element. And that's why it feels even more.
00:16:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
Quite different, I think.
00:16:24
Nathan
just because we had those three points, we could almost see them for one of the first times this season and...
00:16:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I think we'd still be bitterly disappointed that we haven't, I mean, because it'd still be 10 without a win. And, you know, just, I still think there's a lot that would be unwinding.
00:16:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
But yeah, I think it would be a bit more like the Brighton result.
00:16:43
Nathan
Yeah.
00:16:46
Global Sports Podcast Network
But but yeah, it would feel a bit more rewarding than than this.
00:16:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
Anyway, we both, uh, so wait, let me figure out how I'm going to phrase this. So on Saturday, right? When it was after the event, there's post-match interviews. And I think it was Will mentioned to me something that had been mentioned by Gary Neil, one of the post-match comments. And since then it's gone on fire on social media about the number of, uh, the fact that he was dealing with players that hadn't got much play premier league experience and.
00:16:52
Nathan
Yeah.
00:17:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah that they were just kind of learning on the job and this kind of thing. And it kind of blew my mind, to be honest. And obviously it was new information. We didn't really have accredited sources, if you like. And I was like, oh, we were very frustrated by it. But I was also a little bit uncertain because I hadn't seen the interview either. I didn't know where we were going with this. Since then, I've seen the interview. I know Nathan has because it's like one of the first things he mentioned to me.
Critique of O'Neil's Comments
00:17:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
And so i've I've got some points on it that's um of my own since then having seen it. But Nathan, I'm going to let you loose to go with this and see. I don't know if you're going to quote it or anything first before you go into it or how you want to how you want to approach this.
00:18:04
Nathan
right um i'm gonna do my best here guys just to keep my head nice and cool um i like to think i'm a calm and collected individual with this sort of thing um but when you got people that are just blatantly lying about something that you care about it's quite difficult to keep that cool and gary o'neill is just in this post-math conferences i don't have the exact exact quote so maybe chris you'll be able to back me up right afterwards but um basically was saying, I'm not cherry picking, you know, players that have hundreds of Premier League appearances, he's referring to his summer chance of window. And the he's saying that pretty much all of these dressing room haven't had much experience and they' it's difficult for them to to learn on the job almost. And it's like,
00:18:53
Nathan
Well, hang on, hang on, Gary. like yeah So you're referring to the team that he's started in that game. Jose Sar in goal. Craig Dawson at centre-half. You've got players like Lamina, made appearances there. ah You've got Cunha, Samado, Ait Nouri. We can go on, but essentially you've got a squad of players that were all there, apart from a couple that obviously left in the summer, that were there last season.
00:19:21
Nathan
that have played four Premier League seasons and um it's just it's just an insane thing to say. like it's so As a manager whose whose job is to know and develop your players,
00:19:37
Nathan
you you know how many appearances your players have made. And you analyze opposition teams week in, week out. You know how many Premier League games they've played. And based off of the little bit of scrolling and you know Twitter sources that I've had over the past few days, there's ah so many other teams that have got but have had less overall Premier League appearances in their squads than Wolves have.
00:20:04
Nathan
it's just it's just a crazy crazy comment and I don't know I don't know what his goal is with mentioning that and that's what I'm I'm just yeah I don't know what the point is I don't know if he's trying to sort of back himself up by saying he's got a squad full of youngsters which he doesn't but is he trying to say that and sort of get our jail card but I don't I just don't understand it
00:20:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, so the the the most befuddling thing is, so I haven't found the full transcript. I've got a segment of the quote, definitely, but I remember that he's asked basically about, you know, this the current situation. It must be difficult given the run of results and the position in the league, that kind of thing. He then goes on to state about how we weren't out there in the summer buying Premier League players with like 200 match experience and that kind of thing. We bought younger and experienced players. And the first part of that, I was like, okay,
00:20:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
I get that because that technically is true. We didn't go out and buy lots of experienced Premier League players. we We did buy some younger ones. And I was thinking in that bit, but we're not playing those guys. Those aren't the guys we're playing anyway, because they're the guys we actually want to see more of, because we've hardly seen some of them, like Rodrigo Gomez, who vanished off like a game and a half. And um the rest of the quote is all of that dressing room has basically not played many games in the Premier League, and we are trying to help them learn on the toughest stage.
00:21:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
And it's the fact he said after the bit about and buying younger players, which yes, we did buy mostly a bunch of younger players.
00:21:34
Nathan
Yeah.
00:21:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
I'm going to give you mostly in the likes of Forbes, uh, Rodrigo Gomez, Pedro Lima, like that. Yeah, there's a bunch of, I probably go on, but there's a bunch of younger players in there.
00:21:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
And Strandalasse, and even though he's a little bit older, what is he 24 or something, but again, not played in the Premier League, even though he's experienced in elite, like, uh, an elite level.
00:21:49
Nathan
yeah
00:21:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
But the fact that he's then gone on to say all of that dressing room, that that's the quizzical bit, because that is so not true, like Nathan says.
00:22:03
Nathan
yeah
00:22:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
that And I've been Mr. Optimistic. I was so happy going into the season. I'm feeling confident. And, you know, I've been probably the most positive, I would say, in terms of giving him a longer leash, Gary Neal, in terms of everything that's gone on.
00:22:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
But this tape that statement, like so many out there that one has blown my mind because it like you just said it's not it's not true he must know factually, that that is not true.
00:22:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
I mean, we mentioned the other day, I mean, like, Mario Lamina alone has already played in the Premier League, even before Wolves, and Sommado has been here for years, like, Jose Sargo has been here for years.
00:22:44
Nathan
yeah
00:22:47
Nathan
Yeah.
00:22:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
The list, the number is just ah astonishing. Jose Saro is, I think, 113 games, Sommado, 139, Dawson, 297. uh eight nori 108 you know it's it's they're big numbers big numbers and and he's saying that they're inexperienced that screams of someone with nothing like with with just desperation looking for an excuse that's there's no other
00:23:03
Nathan
Yeah. Yeah.
00:23:19
Nathan
Yeah.
00:23:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
There's no other other way around it. I don't see anything else other than it being a desperate excuse thought of in in a split moment. You probably were even realize it's afterwards like either what did I say or where the hell did that come from? But that is that is a flagrant lie and ah just a screaming like call for help.
00:23:37
Nathan
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. I think, you know, I don't know if it was last week or the week before when he was mentioning about, you know, only having three-fit seniors head to halves and talking about that whole back five, back forward, back hole.
Managerial Decisions and Club Management
00:23:50
Nathan
That one, you kind of go, right, well, we don't, us as Wolves fans, we don't know exactly who's making all of the calls in the transfer window.
00:23:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm.
00:23:58
Nathan
We don't know exactly how this season is kind of, you know, how we've gotten into the starting blocks. We don't know if it's all Gary O'Neill, Matt Hobbs, how much Jeff she has an influence on it. But this, this is, this is on another level of, of interview.
00:24:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:24:15
Nathan
Like it's like, it's, and I saw this tweet today and I thought it was bang on the money. It's a Dean Saunders level quote.
00:24:26
Nathan
And um well, look, for the listeners out there that are familiar with some of Dean Saunders interviews, um yeah, it's not great. Not great at all.
00:24:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I just, as I say, ah I've been probably, like I say, I've been the one giving in the most leeway so far. And and I'm not going to say, like, the thing is, I don't have the alternative. I don't know the who the alternative is. And I presume, as we haven't heard anything now, you've got to think if we lose to, south like, if we don't beat Southampton, I don't see even how the Wolves higher-ups can say that he's not going.
00:25:10
Global Sports Podcast Network
I mean, I don't understand. After these comments, after this run of form and after like, that's surely, because we mentioned in the episode, that's right before an international break.
00:25:12
Nathan
Yeah.
00:25:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
That's your moment. If if so if the Southampton game doesn't pan out, that's the moment.
00:25:21
Nathan
Yeah.
00:25:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
And if that's not the moment, then he's just not going to, eat he's going to stay all season. I don't see how, like I don't, I don't see him going.
00:25:27
Nathan
yeah
00:25:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
If he, if he doesn't go after Southampton, if that doesn't, if that's not a win and he doesn't go, surely he's staying.
00:25:35
Nathan
yeah I think i think This situation is just making me think back to when Mick McCarthy got the sack um and slightly different times, obviously different owners, but they they had no plan in place for when they got rid of Mick McCarthy and they got rid of him just because the results have been so, so bad that something had to be done or had to be seen to be done to to get some change.
00:25:58
Nathan
i'm ah I agree with you on the point that if we lose to Southampton something needs to be done, right? But I don't know how much I trust our ownership to have had something lined up properly.
00:26:11
Nathan
And I don't know if they're just going to just sort of as a knee jerk reaction go, right, he's gone. But then all of a sudden, what is it? Is it Derry that steps in as Sean Derry steps in as as first team coach?
00:26:25
Nathan
But then then how different is that going to be? He's obviously, if you're saying that the coach at the minute isn't good enough, he's part of that.
00:26:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm.
00:26:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm.
00:26:31
Nathan
So then you just got another Terry Connor situation.
00:26:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yep.
00:26:33
Nathan
and we don't want that again. So it's like, if they're gonna get rid of him, okay, fine, but don't just get rid of him just because that's what we're crying out for and we're trying to find an escape goat.
00:26:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
No.
00:26:43
Nathan
The problems, I think, run a lot, lot deeper um than just Gary O'Neill, which is obviously a bigger, bigger issue. um
00:26:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, for sure. And that's what I said. I don't know what the answer is. Obviously, in the long run, it's someone else. But all I know is right now, that statement, that was like the, I suppose, you know, the, what's the term I'm looking for?
00:27:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
My brain is not working, Nathan. But like, that's the straw that broke the camel's back, you know, because I just
00:27:10
Nathan
Yes, yeah.
00:27:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
It makes, it just makes no sense. It just makes no sense. And it's a flat out lie. And it's just an excuse. That is, he's literally just, it was bad enough before, but now there is no excuse for that excuse.
00:27:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
That's all I can say on that.
00:27:30
Nathan
Literally, literally.
00:27:31
Global Sports Podcast Network
And and so where else do we go? Where else like where else do we go from here?
00:27:36
Nathan
Yeah, and um I mean, it's going to be is the the the The very, very small positives just to put a tiny twist on it.
00:27:46
Global Sports Podcast Network
Oh, I didn't know.
00:27:46
Nathan
The very, very small one is that we're now unbeaten in two games.
00:27:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:27:52
Nathan
yeah Which, which um yeah, it's ah it's we're a bit of a laughing stock really, to be honest, if that's if that's the type of...
00:27:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:27:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
I mean, maybe that's why he's still here, right? That's the unbeaten into.
00:28:02
Nathan
Maybe, maybe. we you know the yeah that's that's what we're going for but yeah the ah stats on sort of the amount of days and games it's been since the wind and we're getting those sort of fed into us on a daily basis now from all the mainstream media and it's um yeah i mean i've got a few of them written down in front of me here but it's been 191 days since our last premier league win which was um at home to luton
00:28:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I mean, that the can I just say to anyone out there that is listening, the amount of stunning tweets I've seen is glorious. I mean, some, don't get me wrong, some are, you know, I think you need to be, how do I put this? i don't I don't want nasty, harsh language or any, like I don't want abusive, men i don't I don't like when people are just, even whatever you think, there's a line, I think there's a line, some people go a little bit too far.
00:28:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
But things, for example, I saw someone put something like I had a daughter in May, wolves haven't won in her lifetime. You know, that things like that.
00:29:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
That's pure gold, whoever.
00:29:07
Nathan
Yeah.
00:29:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
I'm sorry, I didn't catch the name i before I ah should have saved it.
00:29:08
Nathan
It is.
00:29:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
If that was you, please let us know.
00:29:13
Nathan
Yeah.
00:29:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
But, im you know, there's some stellar, stellar messages going on out there.
00:29:17
Nathan
The raw. There are, there are. And, you know, sometimes it brings the best out of us, doesn't it? These bad moments. um And I think as Wolves fans, we we haven't been used to bad moments for a long, long while, but as of recently, it sort of brought back some of our more, um I don't know, creative thinking when it comes to how to make a ah to make each other laugh a little bit.
00:29:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, yeah. I mean, in terms of where we go from here, that, as I say, that me it it's we're going in circles a little bit, but is it is frustrating when we see the capability within the squad with some of the beautiful goals that we have scored. And then they're just the abysmal minor area, like.
00:30:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
foundational basic errors at the back and the fact that it continues ah through 10 games and it just boggles the mind and maybe whether there's a plan or not you would really hope after previous incidents in history that there is a plan like a a short list of potential replacements any decent and i use that potentially with quotation marks premiership club and not even premiership, football club, you know, should have in mind a potential outline of what the plan is if something goes wrong in terms of management and who the potential shortlist is made up of and all that kind of stuff.
00:30:35
Nathan
Yeah.
00:30:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
And that should be constantly in flux and changing as well, not just for something from five years ago that is no longer valid.
00:30:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
So there's got to be, that there should be a plan. I'm using that like so sensitively.
00:30:55
Nathan
yeah
00:31:01
Nathan
Yeah, and I think you're wise to do so because at the minute there's no, there doesn't seem to be many plan Bs on the pitch, let alone um behind the scenes. So yeah.
00:31:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
No, no.
00:31:12
Nathan
Yeah.
00:31:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. So I don't know. I don't know what the west rest of the week is going to hold in terms of, in terms of any news from the club in terms of, well, I know, I know what the news is going to be. It's going to be no news.
00:31:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
I also feel sorry. Can we just put a word out, say, I feel sorry also for the wool social media team, because obviously they're in, they're also a bit like Strandlarson in a really hard position.
00:31:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
they like They have a certain job to do. They are very limited, and obviously at the moment what they can... There's certain things they just have to ignore or gloss over because they can't like talk about it.
00:31:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
i know And the comments under every video at the moment are basically, they'll post a beautiful goal or something really positive, and all of the comments are just only allowed, or, you know, like, it doesn't matter because we're not...
00:31:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
but They'll post a beautiful goal, it's like doesn't it's meaningless because we're not winning, all this kind of... like That's literally all it is under every single one.
00:32:04
Nathan
yeah
00:32:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
And there's a part of me that when we spoke about social media from players and when I was like this is not, I'd rather they just do their talking on the pitch, there's a certain point where social media for football clubs annoys me as well and I almost wish they'd just stop.
00:32:14
Nathan
Yeah.
00:32:18
Nathan
yeah
00:32:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
There's a certain thes certain times when your agreed quota or whatever you do is like three posts a day on whatever platform. just stop because you're just, yeah, you're just igniting us.
00:32:29
Nathan
You're just fueling the fire.
00:32:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
You are literally gaslighting us and you are, you're making it worse and I know that it's your job but and I know, but someone who controls social media,
00:32:38
Nathan
Yeah.
00:32:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
Stop, you know, like if there's something important share it But there's some weeks like this week where you just almost need to batten down the hatches and just do the basics like yeah Here's your ticket info for the relevant game.
00:32:45
Nathan
Yeah.
00:32:49
Nathan
A blackout, a blackout.
00:32:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
Here is your update on an injury or whatever it is outside of that stop for your own safety
00:33:03
Nathan
Yeah. From. Yeah, and from from from the minute that they do that ah last post after the game, right where it goes, the points are shared at Molyneux.
Closing Remarks and Future Hope
00:33:13
Nathan
Full stop. From that moment until the team sheet for the next weekend, just give us a break.
00:33:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, and I sincerely mean it because I think it and I mean it in the nicest way because I do think it makes things worse amongst the community Because it just fans the fire.
00:33:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
So I'm going again I'm gonna I could go on on that for a long long time But and I don't know where that quite came from but I genuinely I think sometimes it needs to just stop
00:33:38
Nathan
Yeah.
00:33:44
Nathan
Yeah, I tend to agree. I tend to agree.
00:33:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
Okay. All right. Well, I'm glad you agree with me. Thanks. I like it when people agree. It's always nice. Um, any other notes before we sign off for the evening, Nathan?
00:33:58
Nathan
No, no, I think I could talk for longer, but it's probably just going to be recycling the same thoughts and for the health of everyone listening. I don't, I don't wish that. So yeah, I think i've so I've said, I've said my peace for today.
00:34:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:34:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
All right, cool. Well, we're going to move into the night and vanish into yonder. But just remember that out of darkness, come with light even when you're 20th in the Premier League. Take care, everyone.